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  • 041524 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise
  • Subjects: Keep asking questions! Jesus will have a different approach towards a lasting, sustainable society together on Urantia. Must hear/read Christ Michael’s powerful authoritative words in full; Universal Father’s most meaningful message to all; Jesus’ words about the coming times and plans; closing words that lead to find truth and reach our highest potential in Father.
  • Speakers: Mantutia Melchizedek, Christ Michael, Universal Father, Jesus, Thought Adjuster of Elise
  • Transcriber: sonsofGod
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240415_110223


Elise
Hello everybody, this is Lightline Netherlands international for Monday, April 15. 2024. I am Elise, your host, and welcome all of you to this Lightline and I thank you for joining. We are at the moment with 12 on the call altogether, and we would like to thank our Father and all the celestials who work so hard to keep us informed during this very difficult time in deciding what to do with and for Urantia, where there seems to be little interest in what spirit has to say or bring to the planet, But we are curious and we ask Father, we ask you for a clear channel and a good reception of what may come to us today. Is there someone who can lead us through this Lightline and help us to hear your voice? We thank you, Father. We pray for your assistance.

Mantutia Melchizedek
Good day, this is Mantutia Melchizedek. I want to address this group gathered here today. There are of course many things on your minds and in your hearts that still need clarification. We also ask you to be clear and open, and to be honest in what you feel or think. And many times you have been given the opportunity to ask, so keep asking. There are so many things that become clear when you ask, so keep asking. For this will help you to find peace in the midst of confusion, when there is a need to stop, to allow those in charge of these matters to step back and reconsider what needs to be done to continue the work in a prudent way for all of us. 

I am Mantutia Melchizedek. I am your Planetary Prince. And you all know that the whole situation for a Mission on Urantia has always been very complicated. Besides that, we are constantly threatened and harassed by the insurrectionists, the cabal, as you prefer to call it, that has taken us the greatest effort to maintain communication to bring a Mission especially a Mission that has so many facets as, for instance, the new epochal revelation, and the return of Jesus. Urantia is a bestowal planet as you all know and that gives it a special status, and that is going against the ideas of the insurrectionists. They keep claiming their old places, and they do not want the planet to receive any advanced revelation or any care. So they continue to fight for their own cause, which they believe they can win. Which they believe they are entitled to. 

I am Mantutia. I know that unity and a sense of peace are required to qualify for a planned Mission. Your Jesus belongs to this planet, and he has promised to come back to finish what he did not have the chance to do when he had to end his life on this world. However, when he comes, he comes with a very different agenda, an agenda he couldn't ever have foreseen, because so much has happened that has affected what the planet is facing now. Jesus could not have imagined that total rebellion that has spread throughout the universe since the self destruction of the supreme. So the whole of Nebadon and the already vulnerable planets that had suffered from the rebellion of Lucifer and evil, which Jesus had to deal with in his life on Urantia here.

And furthermore, the Father has introduced the New Universe Age, which has resulted in many changes with existing orders disappearing, new orders appearing, and many other changes that will be ongoing for ages to come.

And the current situation on the planet is not very helpful to lay a solid foundation that Jesus needs for his intended purpose of improvement and importance for this planet. A planet with so much hatred and destruction in the hearts of people who are only concerned with self interest through destruction and corruption. Such a planet is not accessible to what Jesus has in mind for the people of Urantia. Jesus knows how difficult it is to return to Urantia among a population that has no faith in God and thus does not recognize God. And that causes chaos in all parts of the world. It prevents people from the peace deep down in everyone's heart that could lead them to a more human and God centered existence, in which they could meet each other as fellow citizens without enmity, living together as brothers and sisters, and work for one world. So the return of Jesus is always depending on people's behavior and Michael's decisions, and see how human loyalty can create a better society together, in which all people can feel safe and loved, where they come to realize that they need each other to create a peaceful and powerful society where everyone can find a place to contribute to the progress and development of the planet as a whole. 

Only then can the words of Jesus be accepted and allow the seed to germinate and grow into fruitful production for all nations, to bring about brotherhood among men. I am Mantutia Melchizedek, and I have been following this planet for a long, long time. I know what the planet and its inhabitants need to qualify for a time of light and life that we all look forward to for this battered planet Earth. The times of fighting a war must be ended, must be considered a thing of the past, and people should turn to each other to jointly overcome this condition of greed and power, and work towards a lasting, sustainable society. So people's own efforts towards unity, honesty, sincerity, to feel the need to serve each other and recognize God and His presence in every human being. 

As Mantutia Melchizedek as your Planetary Prince, I am the one who is responsible for much on your planet today. We wish to strive for what is so terribly necessary for this world, which is peace and brotherhood brought into existence hopefully with the help of all its people. I'm not going to tell you anything else. I am Mantutia Melchizedek, and I wish you all a good day. And I will give you to your next speaker waiting in line, I thank you. 

Elise
Well, this is Elise. Thank you, Mantutia Melchizedek. Thank you for your words. Let's see who is our next speaker.

Christ Michael
Good day to all. This is Christ Michael. I am Christ Michael, representing Michael and Jesus as one. When I speak as Christ Michael, I am Michael of Nebadon and Jesus of Nazareth as one person. 

I can tell you that Mantutia’s words are true and honest, and that the situation on your planet has caused constant problems on your world, not only in the hearts of the people but also in our hearts. where we fight until the end with patients and all our means, and are trying to save this planet from evil, and the unprecedented practices committed in governments, in your financial policies, in your trading of goods, and even in human trafficking in so many parts of the world. This unbridled behavior, which is thought to be freedom, is nearly an uneducated expression of the worst in humanity of bad behavior, and a daring display of freedom conquered by men for itself, and beyond any morality that a normal civilization would ever want to display.

I am Christ Michael. I tell you the consultations that have taken place between all spirit representatives dealing with the ordinary affairs of a planet have been so frequent as to almost make us sick, as you would put it, and yes, it is sickening. But, but, we are ready now to take matters into our own hands and work it all-way. We'd like to change the course to be able to meet the demands placed on each planet, and that is a dignified existence for every inhabitant with a future aimed at a life of trust in God, the Father, whom you should know. Who protects you when man on such a planet is unable to protect himself, and does not seem to be able to properly build a society that can serve a world population, and lead it to an existence for all, for all its inhabitants. A world that strives to enable all to pursue the truth, beauty and goodness of the Father, during the short time humans have to learn what it means to live on a planet

Many in the course of history have given you a good example. Ron Besser has been a leader in perseverance and in doing the will of the Father. And he has been helping to lead you in much of what you have learned. If you can convince yourself of the truth and knowledge of what can happen, and even seems strange, to have to do this God who is sometimes very accessible in the way he presents himself to his universe and to his children. I advise you to stay with God, with that fragment of the Father that dwells within you, and will lead you to the pure truth that you need to ascend to the Father on Paradise

As Christ Michael, I can tell you that Michael of Nebadon has been present on your world many times, even today. Up and down from his residence on Salvington, from his residence to Paradise, back to Uversa, back to Salvington, back to Urantia, up and down. In the meantime we watched the cares on the planet, and we are crushed by the fact that men cannot think of anything other than weaponry, and empowerment of themselves in a world condemned to destruction. But they will never succeed in converting it to their ideas of freedom in thought or action, if they cannot arise at the highest ideals of planetary life through their hearts guarding their minds. And this should come to bring unity among people in the form of joined work, and the pursuit of true happiness in finding each other in love and service to the other. Isn't that what Jesus showed you and emphasized on countless times when he addressed the crowd, and again and again when he explained his teaching to the apostles?

I was there. I was Michael. I was the God part him, in Jesus, the Son of Man. I was God in him and with him. We experienced life in the flesh, but now behold a humanity that has not changed and has not been able to find peace within itself. 

As Christ Michael I know that I will not concern myself with sermons or parables. We will do what we have to do, and we will go with the decrees and regulations that concern the entire world, and from which those who want to hear and understand will reap the benefits. Our ideals have not changed, but our methods have been. They have been adapted to take a step, and more steps that will be completely different from what has been known so far. It might require sacrifices. It requires a population that is accountable in order to achieve a result, in which the planet has the opportunity to rid itself of evil, and to strive for sustainable methods in all areas, which do not need to be mentioned, as this has been discussed many times in Lightlines and posts on the forum. 

As Christ Michael I ask you to pray and work for the purpose and a result which has been prepared by the spirit world, and which will be tried with utmost care and authority. I am Christ Michael and I thank you Elise for these transmissions. I agree with you all, and I will speak again soon. Good day 

Elise
Thank you, Christ Michael. Thank you. I have a look at my dashboard, and we still have 13 callers. Okay, let me see if there's anything else for today.

Universal Father  
My dear children, this is the Universal Father. I like to speak to you all. Do you not remember what was once said to you, that you are the ones who believe in me and in my Sons who are trying to help you in all your endeavors to reach me? 

I am your Father, I am your Universal Father, which means the Father of all who live in my universe and are specifically created to experience a lifetime on a planet that is created especially for them, with all the gifts that I can give you to develop your soul. That part of you that will become one with your indwelling spirit who is of me, and who is wholly capable to make you one with him and to continue your journey through the many beautiful places where you may learn about my creation, about the purpose and the elevation and deepening of your being, the status of human being into a full fledged spiritual being.

My role as your Heavenly Father is many fold. I have no role. I am it all. My versatility knows no bounds. And all I have designed is in order to reach you in countless ways, and for you to reach me. But you have seen that such a pattern can be broken if man does not adhere to my conditions, for adhering to a pattern, and that could harm him and cause him to turn away from me, and to walk in the wrong direction.

I, your Universal Father, has endowed each of you with freewill, as I require my children to freely seek and desire to know me, in order to participate in my creation, and to ascend through experience and service to the higher services that exist in my universe for all, who are willing to hear and see what I the Father, have made for them to become as I am in my kingdom. Which is intended for everyone to be. To be an eternal place of learning and discovery, of work and enjoyment of what has been created for each of my creatures directly or indirectly, to bring about divine life for every trained and experienced soul. 

I am the Universal Father and I belong to all. I belong to those who do not know me, I belong to those who seek me. I belong to those who longed to do my will. So, that you may all be happy and content in the knowledge that life has a purpose, and that the purpose is unity through the unification of everything and everyone, both big and small, present in all orders of beings, all spread out throughout the whole of the universes. 

I am the source of your existence and I have commissioned my Divine Sons science to rule in my stead over large portions of the universe and trusted to them, and where they apply the divine capabilities invested in them. I leave much of my work to those who prefer these special services for me. And I protect all from evil, caused by negligence of those who resist my guidance. 

I am familiar with every detail of creation. I oversee its management through the constant contact I maintain with the faithful representatives throughout the whole of the universe, some of whose orders you have come to know through the Urantia Book, which is now due to negligence no longer meeting the requirements of truth, but it will be replaced by new revelations that will be especially appreciated by those who serve God and have come to know him as their Heavenly Father

Remember, remember what Jesus said when he proclaimed, blessed are those who believe without seeing. Blessed are those who believe in the God of creation of the heavens, the suns, the planets, who enable man to know their Creator, and enter His dwelling place. I am the Universal Father and I speak these words to all who belong to my worlds that are made available to all who accept this as a gift from a Father to his children. Stay with me. Believe in me, I am your Father. I now step back to allow my words to resonate in the depths of your soul, to urge you to follow my ways, so that you may find me in my eternal abode on Paradise. This is your Universal Father, and I bid you good day. 

Elise 
Thank you, Father. Thank you for speaking to us. 
Well, this is Elise, just give me a moment to see if there is anything else.

Jesus 
Hello to all. This is Jesus. 

Elise 
Welcome Jesus. Please, go ahead. 

Jesus
Thank you, Elise. Yes, it's me, your friend, Jesus, your brother. And the one who knows you also well, and your intentions to keep the faith and hold on to your patience, and steadfastness to see the world change for the betterment of generations to come, and to follow in your footsteps as they learn to abide in me, and in our Father in Heaven.

My life on this earth was a long time ago, and much has happened since then. But I have never forgotten the people who believed in me and followed me and until the end of my life in the flesh. I have met so many people who were thirsty and hungry for the love of God but did not know how to find God within themselves. I have preached and taught many times about how to increase faith by asking God within, within yourself for help. But so many could not believe that such a truth was real as you can now, from what you have learned in the Urantia Book, and the lessons given in Lightlines, and so many messages on a discussion forum to bring this all together. A method of communication even if it is for a few in this busy world as you know it today, but we know that the call for support has been answered by you, and by others. And we want it to remain so, because it will be a very important means of communication for the coming period in which we have to announce what we have to do, and where we are going in this coming period. 

If you are listening to this Lightline and you have read the latest posts on the forum, you have seen that a big and rather unusual change is approaching. Decisions have been taken. We are not (now ?) in for a change. We are excited, but it remains always difficult to do the unexpected and the abnormal things to a planet that is beneath its development and could always cause trouble. We are very careful, but we know what we want to do. We are prepared, we have talked it over and over and we know what we want.

Michael of Nebadon has been in deep consultation with the Universal Father. They're going their own way to give Urantia the chance that so many women and men deserve for what they mean to their fellow man and to God. It may seem to be a small amount of believers, but all the more of us is taking the risk to do what we can to preserve this bestowal planet for Michael of Nebadon and the Universal Father, and all who will have a life on it.

Great decisions have been taken and you have been informed about our plans, about our intentions more or less. We have not talked about the content of what is going to happen for this planet, for its people to fight evil, to fight war, to fight for peace, to fight for an honest existence for all who are perishing at the moment. My heart goes out to those who are suffering. Children hungry, thirsty for a little bit to eat or drink. Can you believe it? At this time, in 2024? Children should be in school, children should be playing. Parents should be taking care of their children in a normal way. This has been made impossible on certain places on your earth. We have to step in, we have to do something and we will. You can be sure of that. 

I am Jesus. Pray with me. Pray for your planet. Pray for Michael of Nebadon. Pray for all celestial beings standing ready for Urantia. Pray for yourselves and stay the course. This is Jesus. I leave you in my peace. Good day.

Elise
Thank you so much Jesus.  
Let me see, just a minute. I think there's someone else to say some words. 

Thought Adjuster of Elise 
Yes, there is, Elise. This is your Adjuster to finish your Lightline for today. To give all of you some advice as you have heard before, but never too much, never too often.

I want to remind you to grow your soul to greater heights, depth and width, all you have to do is the Father's Will. That is not always easy. But the Father's Will is equivalent to doing that good, the beautiful, and the truth. You know what goodness is. You have an idea what beauty is. These are the things that are pure and beautiful. That are right, honest and trustworthy. But you do not always know what the truth is. And the truth can be told or passed on in many, many ways. Be aware that the real truth comes from within yourself. When you feel that feeling inside that something in that moment of insight cannot be other than clear and honest and pure, because it touches you deeply. It gives you immediately a sense of enlightenment, a sense of being lifted up, of expanding your mind, and of complete contentment with the fact that you know, and which you are then enhanced by through an additional knowledge or additional feelings coming to you from within. 

Truth, beauty and goodness. This is the reality of God. It is his being. And this is what God wants to give you through the many teachings and experiences to finally become like him. To be able to work with him in his universe. A universe that he, God, has brought into reality for all, to be able to unfold your innate creative abilities, for all that will please God. These are my words for all who will be listening today or later. I am leaving. I am your Adjuster, and I thank you for receiving me. I wish you a good day. 

Elise 
Thank you, Adjuster. Thank you so much. 
Now, let me see what time it is. Okay, we have a couple of minutes left and I'm looking at the dashboard. Well, I see only Jose, but I think he came in again. He had lost contact. 

So I want to close this Lightline unless there are any comments or questions, or other things that you would like to open this Lightline for, but just press five-star if you want to add anything to what has been said during this Lightline. And I see no hands up now. 

So, we are five minutes from the hour, but I am going to shut off this Lightline and leave us with the beautiful words from Jesus and from the Thought Adjuster. And I think we will hear, well, many other things that are going to change everything we have heard up till now, I suppose. So, I leave that to another time, another Lightline, and I want to thank all our speakers who were with us today. The Adjuster, and Jesus, Universal Father, Christ Michael, and Mantutia Melchizedek, and of course, I want to thank all of you, the listeners, who were present through this Lightline. Thank you, and hopefully till next week on Monday, and we will see each other again. Have a good day, and goodbye to all

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Thanksgiving for this Lightline to Michael of Nebadon and Machiventa Melchizedek. Thank you, Lemuel and Ron. We are so glad to hear that the information will continue to flow. That is the most important to keep us together as a group under any circumstances, and to expel all lurking darkness. The tides will turn again, I am sure. Until then, we keep being about our Father's business wherever we are and receive instructions from within.  

The only part that is disappointing and painful is knowing that the world will not change for the better any time soon, expect if and when WTP will revolutionize the globe! That will bring much attention to the goodness of our Father and Father Michael, it might even swing the doors open to the visible Missions with acceptance. My prayer is to remove the individuals from leading positions who are the enemy of advancement for selfish reasons, and do not care to work for the best interest of the people. Let them live out their lives stripped from power positions. I know there are many, but Spirit can start somewhere that will have a snowball effect, I believe. It does not have to be that people would SEE Spirit in order to make some order in the world. Let people see some of the consequences of their actions instead.  Were we not tested and tried? Isn't that what the world needs to go through also? Some may come out like gold. May be not gold but silver, at least, as longs as turning to the light from darkness.  

The question I have left is about the SIXTH EPOCHAL REVELATION.  Will it still come to Urantia? If so, nothing has changed other than visibility. People of the world should learn anyhow to have faith without seeing when they see through such an incredible manifestation. We need to do the outreach better and that is our opportunity to partake in the Mission of saving Urantia.

Another question comes to mind that also is my PRAYER forever, will the evil ones be removed from Urantia continually and fully? There is enough suffering and depravation on the planet already without their further input. Souls are getting lost, so let there be light only and no more darkness! Please Father! No devil (or better names you call them) can stop our progress, the progress of greater Light reaching Urantia.  Let there be a constant exposure of the darkness that will cause people to able to choose the Light. Father! Please expose the darkness of corruption and dark secrets by your spiritual means!

Lastly, what is most concerning to us all for many years is Ron's health and Lemuel's as well. We pray, please Father Michael, grant them the privileges of life extension and /or miraculous healing, whatever it takes. We need them so much to keep the 'spiritual ball rolling' may it be Lightlines or WTP, facilitators of places of our family gathering. We all would also seek and be forever thankful for some healing in our aging bodies to able to stay the course. Thank you, Father, for listening. We know that your love has no end, that you consider my request and answer it. Thank you and Amen.

sonsofGod

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1. 040824 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise
2. Subjects:
- report on the conditions on Urantia and decisions that has been made during the past days and weeks concerning the Missions  
- problems that spirit must face dealing with the leaders and nations of Urantia and potential solutions
- our purpose and potential in life
- Jesus’ words of encouragement and commission to us
- Tuesday LightLine canceled for tomorrow
3. Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Machiventa Melchizedek, Mantutia Melchizedek, Thought Adjuster of Elise, and Jesus
4. Transcriber: sonsofGod
5. Link To Tape:  
https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240408_110227 

Elise
Hello, everyone. Good day and good evening to some of you. This is the Lightline Netherlands International for Monday, April the 8th, 2024. I'm Elise, your host, and I welcome you all and thank you for tuning in.

Well, let me ask if there is someone to join us, but before we may say and welcome anyone, let us ask for our blessings from our Father for this session and for the world that is in such a terrible confused state. It has so many difficulties to deal with. We ask for your blessings, your help, your care, and love, Father, and we thank you for everything we receive from you every day of our lives. Thank you. Well, let's ask if there is someone who would like to address this group tonight.

Michael of Nebadon
Yes, this is Michael of Nebadon. Hello, everyone. I'm here, and I'm very glad to address this group on the Monday Lightline. You have a good number of listeners, Elise. We have 12 altogether here and people are working. And there is a phenomenon taking place that's quite interesting for your planet. The moon going to pass your sun, a full moon, is quite a phenomenon to watch. But, well, we'll stick to the Lightline for now, and, well, let me say this. Where should I begin?

A Mission on a normal planet is quite an undertaking. But a Mission on Urantia requires all of our strength and effort to estimate, and it's very difficult to carry out. The Missions that at first take place in spirit are usually vast and impossible for you to imagine. But what you know is the conditions on your planet. And also the plans that have been put forward to renew the earth. And that takes an enormous amount of time, strength, and reflection. It involves many lives, including many from outside of your planet. And we also have to deal with the insurrectionists, the rebels, who keep working against us. But they will be taken to other places where they will be judged.

However, I'm Michael of Nebadon, and I have to tell you that it is necessary that the earth is being completely freed from the poison and pollution that is constantly being inflicted on it. And for this, we need to use the means of spirit, which do not always seem very friendly. As you are also aware of, there are many high spiritual beings involved, and decisions had to be reconsidered and approved, and now the situation does not remain the same. Things are most complicated and almost impossible. We have to adopt new methods, and all of that will be of effect to many departments in the universe.

Moreover, man's attitude is not very flexible, and we are constantly confronted with the unchanging convictions of man who allows his own will to triumph over the will of the Father. I ask you, as I have done so many times, pray and be patient. The hour of the call will take place, and all who have waited so long to serve will be recognized. That doesn't mean you have to sit around and wait. Take time to care and serve your friends, your family, your neighbor, anyone who gives you an opportunity to love and serve.

Live as Jesus showed you, by serving his Father in heaven. Follow his example, and all will be well. I'm Michael of Nebadon. I do not speak many words today. I only tell you, we care for you. We love you; we are with you. This is Michael. I wish you a good day and I will turn this over to Machiventa Melchizedek to inform you about more that has been going on over the last days and weeks. I thank you for listening and good day.

Elise
Thank you. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Michael of Nebadon. Thank you for opening this Lightline and for your words. And welcome Machiventa Melchizedek. Please go ahead if you're ready, if you're there.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Oh, yes, I'm here. I'm here, Elise. I'm Machiventa Melchizedek and greetings to all of you. Let me speak to all of you about the situation that has developed over the past few weeks.

The whole situation regards life and the possibilities for change and growth for spiritual receptivity, whether it is the individual, your society, your governments of your nations, it all has deteriorated from month to month. And as you know, every attempt on our part, that is the side of spirit, has been stopped or withdrawn because nothing would worked to our satisfaction or our intention on a planet that seems to be in a state of deterioration in areas of government, governance, education, environment, and with that the people, and everything necessary to form a solid foundation for a man and his environment, which is necessary for a sustainable society.

We as the Melchizedeks are familiar with life on all planets and we know exactly how to act when circumstances ask us to intervene or where we may take charge, or deal with the situation. Which we always do in consultation with Michael of Nebadon, who is the Sovereign Lord of your local universe of Nebadon. We do give our full attention to Urantia. This planet is very important not only for this local universe, but for the grand universe, and even for the master universe where creation will be expanded in the far future. You are all well instructed and you have learned enough to understand the myriad of difficulties that we have to face, and all the circumstances both above and below that have made it impossible for the highest authorities to continue what has been laid out for Urantia, and proves to be one of the most difficult Missions ever undertaken.

Everything possible has been working against those who are going to the extreme of their ability to assist in what needs to be done for further development and spiritual growth on this planet. Where your Sovereign Michael of Nebadon has decided to let things be quiet until solutions are found and Missions can be continued in a different way to address the huge problems of poor development in your civilization, in spiritual understanding and knowledge about life on a planet. Your planet, that is now developing into a low educated and morally misbehaving overpopulated world.

In recent times during your Lightline, your last Lightline from Dominick it was mentioned that planets for humans were going to an evolution and are evolving from tribes to nations. And that this should eventually lead to a higher civilization of scientific and social and other institutions in a cooperative manner to a civilization of Brotherhood, which is, as we then said, far removed from the competitive or war-like civilization that you have now on the planet.

And the issue here is unity, unification. But that seems to be far removed from the thoughts of the people of Urantia, who are learning to fight for themselves, only for themselves, to be number one in charge of the most important positions in communities and in the world, as powerful small groups of individuals over entire communities that are thereby doomed to be left behind in many respects and are also deprived of what should have been a planet of growth, prosperity, and well-being for all, without even one of its citizens having to suffer an undignified life, or miss the opportunity to use their talents.

And that takes devotion and love, care and wisdom. That will lead to unification in families, in groups, nations of the world, care for the world, for its people, for all living things in it, to create one united world as the Father has ordained. So that man may become like him and find him through the means the Father has given you for experience, as you move through the many realms created specifically for that sacred purpose, and to grow toward the unification of it all.

I am Machiventa Melchizedek, I know you all, and you all know that changes have occurred and they will occur and at the moment that will not be communicated to you. We are not quite sure when or how this will work out, but do not be distracted from your good decisions or worried by actions taken for the planet. Remember, the universe is one and unification must come from the lessons of life and the overriding purpose of creation, which will ultimately be realized for all.

And as you can witness in a healthy and unified civilization entering the next planetary stage, a period of light and life, (recording error, couple of words lost here - 1) of Margul, your Trinity Teacher Son, who is ready and eager to start as Jesus is, as the Melchizedeks are, and all those whom you have yourself acquainted with for so many years.

I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and I advise you to take this time to be still and contemplate these things in your mind without worrying about the bigger picture going on behind the scenes. It is impossible for you to understand the magnitude of what needs to be done, or what you could ever do, except to know that you are a child of your Holy Father who loves you, and cares for you.

Be good, be loving, be helpful, be thoughtful, and do not forget your Universal Father God, who longs for you to walk the path of life that is set out for you. As Machiventa I tell you, you will likely hear from us and many others when we deem it possible to share something important to you, our human supporters. That's what you are. And remember, you're always under the care of Michael of Nebadon, of Jesus, and many, many others, so that you may feel protected and loved. We're still here. We're here for you, we're here for the world. And know that you are in the hands of the Father, the first Source and Center of all. This is Machiventa Melchizedek stepping back and I leave you in the peace of your Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon. Good day to all of you.

Elise
Thank you Machiventa, thank you so much. (Excuse me). Well, this is Elise, and I just have to see if there is anyone else who would like to speak to us.

Mantutia Melchizedek
This is Mantutia, your Planetary Prince. I am rushing in, for we have just concluded our meeting for today with the planetary government to make decisions for the times ahead. Because the situation on this planet is rough and uncomfortable, we could say at the least, we have been forced to change some of our plans. And these mainly have to do with the people on Urantia who seem to have no need for God, or his ministry, or his care in their lives.

I am Mantutia, and as you know, Michael of Nebadon, your Creator Father has postponed and silenced all the work for the Missions, and for good reasons. For there is no reason to start a Mission on a planet that is at war, for the warlike thinking that is rampant in many of your nations. If there would be any visible Mission, there must be an attitude of attention and openness and willingness to receive a delegation, so different from what you are used to see, and hear, and read. Michael himself has been in close contact with the planetary government and he sees no opportunity at this time to do anything of value on Urantia that could change the situation. He will of course never perform miracles to attract attention or to change the situation. But he'll wait until people are ready to receive what has been prepared for this world of negligence and stubbornness.

Time after time, attempts have been made to start the Missions and to this day, they were not even given a chance to start. And of course, from our side, you can imagine no one wants to intervene in the midst of destruction of murder, of people fleeing the bumps, and other war materials that you have invented and have armed yourself with over the years, thinking that they would be safe if they were to be attacked by their enemies. Well, my friends, that is not the case. The more the nation's develop and arm their countries with heavy, very dangerous nuclear weapons, the greater the threats will be, and the situation will worsen and tension then will increase. And it will only come to times when a world will either be in destruction, or for man will come to his senses and lay down all weapons, and start talking about peace.  

A start must be made on saving humanity, on saving the planet, on saving everything that lives on it before it is too late, and before human life on this planet, on this world has become impossible. Michael, your Sovereign ruler is deeply concerned and even angry that your governments are not taking the responsibility and are making no effort to negotiate, and we wonder if they will ever be able to do so. We, on our side, cannot assist or advise a government that has completely lost its way and has forgotten to act for the good of the nation but it's only seeking power. Ignoring the care and well being of the people is wrong, it is the wrong move. It will never lead to a solution, let alone peace.

What must happen is an opportunity for your world leaders that they should meet in long sessions to get to know each other and learn that you are all one people regardless of borders, race, religion or culture. All nations are built and rely on the families, your family, the smallest social group that forms a unit, and it's the building block of the future by being together, by meeting, by talking, by getting to know each other. They will finally see that the need for peace and happiness is the same all over the world and does not differ in your countries, just as it does not differ in all the families you can find anywhere in the universe.

So, let's hope that there is something that are good, and they hope for the good. Of course that will turn the situation around that might even force people to turn their attention to what is more valuable and could cause them to let go of the greed and the goods of the world, and to concentrate more on the things of God, which they have paid little attention to, and which is the most important and powerful force in the universe to help you find truth and value in your life. This has to come across all of the people, and the people in your governments have to become aware that they must let their egos go and meet with one another. This is Mantutia, it is all I wanted to say for this moment. I am Mantutia Melchizedek, and we thank you for listening and I wish you all a very good day.

Elise
Thank you, Mantutia Melchizedek. Thank you for your words. And let's hope that your words for better days will come true.
Let me have a look at my dashboard and see if there are any other who have joined us at the moment that we are shifting and that is me included. I see no question marks, no hands up, so, I know you like to see if I can continue and maybe there is someone else who could address us. We still have time. Is there someone else who would like to speak to us?

Thought Adjuster of Elise
Yes, Elise, this is your Adjuster. And I would like to speak to all present here, and anyone else who would like to listen. We are the Adjuster. We know the purpose of your life and your presence here at this time. We know the mission of your life in this world, where every child experiences what life is for them, and takes the steps forward on that habitable planet. But one planet is not the same as another one, and you are all created and adapted to the living conditions that the planet offers you.

So, it is on every planet everywhere in the universe that man has to deal with the conditions and the situations on that planet. And so it is that man will have to find his way and try to live as best as he can (- 3 - and provide to) his family, and through his experience create a civilization through knowledge with or without the help of religion that man comes to know God and wants to serve Him. The experiment of a universe with so many different life forms complementing and assisting each other in development and growth, all on the way to their Creator, is a beautiful and wonderful event, which the Father has designed and has provided everything necessary to make himself known in his universe and to reveal himself as Father. God's plan is grand and infinite, and will move, teach, and empower all of God's creatures to participate forever in the creation that has no end.

Elise
Just hold on a minute, I have to clean my throat. Just hold on. I'm sorry. Okay, let's continue.

Thought Adjuster of Elise
Everything that lives has the potential to evolve. People equipped with a mind can think and learn to understand and imagine the visible and the invisible. And these things will be able to be realized and thus determine the future of the group that will survive according to the law of evolution, which means that everything must be understood, and everything must be in balance before and during the next phase. Everything in the universe is centered on the presence of God, on his love, on his knowledge. In essence this knowledge is already inherent in the pattern of all creative things. It merely takes growth and discovery, and of course a mind to stand, and also the mind to understand who and what God is. What his purposes are and how man will be able to accomplish that. This is your task as a human on the planet, but you have been helped and ...

Elise
Well, this is Elise. I just do not know that word. Well, let me say, you just have been helped by your Adjusters.

Thought Adjuster of Elise
You all have an Adjuster. So, ask for him, take your time to think about this, what you have heard, and walk this earth with the piece of God in your heart. We are the Adjusters speaking through this transmitter. We wish you a good day.

Elise
Thank you, Adjuster, thank you. I don't know if we have anyone else here for us but I will give it a try, and just give me a minute to see if I can connect to someone. I think there's someone who would like to connect to this Lightline, just a minute please.

Jesus
Good day and good evening to all of you. Yes, I would like to address this group. This is Jesus, and I would like to give you a bit of encouragement. Some words of hope that will help you deal with your maybe disappointments about the changes and the silence of the Missions. You hear on the forum you have all been so loyal. You have been loyal listeners and workers, and you are all greatly appreciated for your patience and work. I am Jesus. And we ask you for a little bit more, if you can handle it. If you can be patient again with those who are constantly working to put this world on the right track and are trying to give a little bit of wisdom through counseling to those who keep showing their care and love for humanity. For humanity on Urantia, she is suffering so much from the terrible circumstances of war and crime, which then lead to death, hunger, and sheer pain for so many of your fellow human beings.

What can we ask of you? We ask you to stay the course, no matter what decisions will be made about you, or your world. We asked you to pray and give gifts to those who are in need. They have nothing all the way to the point where there is no hope.

I am Jesus, I am your Shepherd. Remember? But I am the Shepherd of all for all. Even for those without faith, without a church or temple, even when they forget to pray, or when they do not remember the things that I have taught the people on earth. We cannot change this situation, you cannot change this situation, but we will be there to assist. And we ask of you to be brothers and sisters to each other. And to remember my teachings which I gave so many years ago. I ask you to pray with me for your brothers and sisters who need everything. I asked the Father that they may find the strength to pick up what is left to be there for each other, to care for each other where possible. We pray to the Father for each of his children wherever they need his love. We pray for all. We pray for all of you. We pray for all who stand ready to help. We pray for all who lost their lives. They will be cared for on the mansion worlds.

I am Jesus and I am with Father, and we are there for all of them in spirit and in their hearts. This is Jesus. Stay with me and we will overcome. I love you and I leave you in my piece. Good day, my good people.

Elise
Thank you, Jesus. Thank you.  
This is Elise again, and we'll see once more if there is someone to speak, but I have a feeling that Jesus was here to give us some courage and love and understanding for what we are going through with all of our spiritual leaders and helpers. And that his words were the last for this session of this Lightline. Let me wait and see. I have a look at the dashboard, which is still the same. If you have any comments or questions or if there are anything that you would like to say, … Okay, I see your hand up, Dominick, and you are unmuted. Go ahead, please.

Dominick
Yeah, I just want to announce that … Elise, thanks for the meeting. Yes. Yeah, am I … am I audible? Can you hear me?

Elise
Yes, yes.

Dominick
Okay, great.

Elise
Sure.

Dominick
Lightline for Tuesday is canceled, tomorrow. I just needed to start with that announcement while we have everybody on the line who might be showing up. I’ll post it to the forum too. And that's all, back to you.

Elise
Okay, thank you. Thank you, Dominick. Thank you very much. Yes, well, we have some minutes left, but I think this is a good time to close the Lightline. And I just want to thank all of our listeners that you were here with me. And of course I want to thank all our speakers.

I now remember Michael of Nebadon, Mantutia Melchizedek, Machiventa Melchizedek, and the Thought Adjuster, and Jesus. I hope I did not forget any. Well, we're very grateful for everyone that took the time to be here with us, and thank you for your words and your attention, and your care. And with this I will just stop the recording and wish you a very good day and a good sight of the Sun eclipse if you are there to watch it. Until next week bye to all of you.

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1. 040224 Audio Tape Tuesday Light Line USA; host: Dominick O.
2. Subjects:
a) A detailed report of Dominick’s experience and evaluation of the conference in Baltimore
b) Difficulties with the message of the Urantia Book,
c) Evangelism with the message of ascension scheme
d) Positive expression of an ascension scheme results in readiness to serve and satisfaction in any circumstance
e) Unveiling our personal and national identity
f) The first public presentation of WTP
g) Arthura addressed our national identity and adherence to Father and TA within
3. Speakers: Gabriel of Salvington, Arthura
4. Transcribed by: sonsofGod
5. Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240402_110026


Dominick  
All right, welcome everyone. Today is Tuesday, April 2nd, so no April Fool's today. And we started recording this Lightline at 2pm Eastern. Okay. Well, for those interested, there's always a transcript and an audio recording at forum.serara.org. And also Father slightline.com. If you're tuning in by phone, you can press either five star or star five, I'm never sure which, but that'll indicate that your hand is raised and you'd like to say something.

Okay. So, we pray to Father and appeal to Michael, for good, clean and secure Lightline. Now we can hear anything you have to say. And if not, we are always grateful for our life and help us worship you and pray, and help our growth. And then of our fellow brothers and sisters in their journeys, and help us get to know you, and be like you, and give that back to everyone around us.

So, my name is Dominick, and I am doing a transmission work here in what's called a Lightline. And what we try to do is keep the line open for the spiritual administrations that they may give us any updates, any lessons, anything we are to know. And that in addition to that general aspect, we also strive to direct these Lightlines into Mission service. So the organization, the Magisterial Foundation that sponsors these Lightlines, provides this scheduled slot of 2pm, Monday through Sunday. And we currently have a little over half filled. So if there are other transmitters who wish to step in and take, say, a Thursday slot, or Friday, or a Saturday slot that is available to those who tune in.

And well, I attended a conference. It was great to be there, and it took away a lot of… a lot of things that was (were) a success. Just, I know everyone's curious about that, I'd be happy to talk if you want to. And I'll share some of the things that I transmitted yesterday morning. Maybe not in depth, but in general.

There is a... you could say, the beginning of rectification if you call it a social movement, everything that's happened. But that, it's important that the revelation and the Spiritual Administration involved in providing us that revelation is more than just a movement, and that the original instructions to get them with an epochal revelation was the structure of the Foundation, together with something called the Brotherhood. And that when you look at where we are at today, we have gone from what the Brotherhood was meant to be, which was like a nation. The Brotherhood is much more came to a nation when we talk about what the revelation states as family, tribe, nation and state and beyond.

And so what we have is really a state of tribal… a bunch of tribes, right now. And that there's this hope and effect taking place where hopefully we can amalgamate into a nation again. But than in its tribal effect it's pretty hard to overcome when the social movements are stuck in a bit of a tribe mode. Now, I'm going a little bit sideways here in that, the reason I say that is because tribal behavior is really a deep seeded unconscious behavior almost. And this is true, just in simple group groups. But there's always a group behavior that you don't want to rock the boat, you don't want it to do anything that will kick you out of the tribe or black sheep you. In the past that was really a survival thing. And then it meant death if you were taken out of the tribe, almost there. So these are deeply ingrained things in the human brain anatomy and behavior.

So that's just a definition there for you, but to have the institution, really an institutional organization of the Foundation that was, as far as I know, structured to at least keep the text preserved, and the distribution, I guess, of the revelation clear and clean. And somewhere along the way, obviously, before my time, my living experience is that all hay-wired, we all have our understanding of how those histories took effect.

But what I'm taking away from that conference, too, is the … what's the tribal effect of this is that, well, the conversation is always about a book. And it's never quite … It's a nice vehicle to just say, a book, because it implies and therefore communicates so many things, and then about our understanding of that book, but then, somewhere along the way the Brotherhood became something else. It became interested in publishing and things that the institution was supposed to do, and the institution became quite concerned about loyalty to and understanding that… that they want to control lesser teaching, and then teaching and study groups,

And then there's these universities popping up. And it seems like there should be some progress in the future but I'm not sure how fast that will go if they're left to their own devices, and so on what the cult of the Magisterial Foundation strives to do. And I use that word because that's how we are understood. That's not necessarily who we are. But I guess if you wanted to make a difference, it would be that the seed of our identity is graduated or no longer defined by stating how you found the book, and being able to say that you're loyal to the personalities and the deity in the book, and that you have personal relationships with him.

And really, when that happens, you don't, you just…, the book becomes less and less of an identity there and more and more of a resource, something to turn back to, when you need clarity on where your understanding is on anything, but at the same time, you're, you're moving forward, and we have a much more advanced world today than when the revelation took effect and it's publishing. And there's an awareness of that, that for sure.

And there's, back to the social movement though, is that … It's important to define what a social movement is, and what I received yesterday was that a social movement, or to put it a different way, the fifth epochal revelation is not merely a social movement. And that if you consider a social movement what those really are, they're just waves flowing on the times of the mores and the values of the day. And so they're subject to, you know, secular and profane propaganda that seek authority and influence.

And so tribes are often in our modern society here, very, very driven in their social movements, and there's a lot of propaganda Tani, certainly when we see the extremes today, and certainly the division do anything the way the media messages us by more or less tribal demographics, and it's really detrimental to the thinking of an open person.

Anyhow, if we graduate to nations and institutions and what the Foundation could do, if it was a working institution you could say, what it is working, out to be something that any institution would do, and that is something that binds the nation to the state, and produces civilization. So in other words, and in my understanding that means that the text would be something stable, and there's a stable platform for the nation, the Brotherhood, to produce things at the higher levels of the state, which is even higher than a nation, and that those things start to produce civilization.

And really a… what type of civilization? Well, that's quite clear to anybody who's familiar with that revelation, it's cooperative civilization. So it's not just kind of the civilization we have now, very competitive and belligerent, but cooperative. And so when the institution is the citadel of its charter in charge, now we can navigate the waves of these social adjustments, and withstand the dilution and corrosion in the face of social coercion. And so I say all this, because there's, with the tribal-ness, and the breakdown of the institution and the vehicle that was supposed to be creating a nation, we're stuck in this institution, which is taking a little more than what it was designed to do. What the Fellowship that's trying to take on more than thinks it's doing with the publications and whatnot. And there's this tribal disparate attempts going on that we're going to affect a civilization and it could just, it could be going a lot better, as we deal in unify.

So rather than, you know, judge that I think we've got a ways to go. And we could, we could be open to more. And so certainly, the Magisterial Foundation was welcomed there. Steven, Steven and I made a lot of good acquaintances and met a lot of good people.

And lastly, just the thing about worship, there's one thing about worship. It's, it's this. Don't bring yourself in, that's all I have to say about that. And, for me, if there's, if there's worship, I would just prefer to walk into a room where people are there, and be silent. And we can come and go freely as we choose. And, do I have anything else? There's some news to them, I'll see if they want me to talk about it, but is there anyone I can receive that has anything to say, rather it's about that or something new this week? Let me know. I'm here to receive.
I don't, I don't necessarily have a name, but I have a voice.

Gabriel of Salvington
Thank you, Dominick. I would like to address the group. This is, this is Gabriel. Gabriel of Salvington. Dominick made as much progress as we hoped he could. Michael sends his regards, regardless of anything he might have said the day before.

What you need to understand is Missions take place on a planet. The entire revelation is designed (so) that you can expect Missions to follow. Yes, the book is a Canon of personal religious experience, soul growth and describes an ascension scheme designed not only to clarify your cosmology, but it is the first reclamation of us, as ourselves here at Salvington to put the rebels on notice that judgment has occurred in favor of me, and on behalf of Michael. The work we do on this planet shall proceed and will go forward as it always has, starting with the ascension scheme.

The conference started with the soul, but it could incorporate so much more than just the mere quotations that pass for a strenuous concept. What it hints at, and what I will clarify, is that the fifth epochal revelation is a new yet restated ascension scheme for all mankind. What gets in the way of celestial communication for starters is the need to qualify the language to the effect that it becomes so diluted in pronoun, in correctness, you lose sight of the message.

So, we will continue to use that for at least this transmitter who bags that you play along, but the ascension scheme truly is something to be evangelized, and understanding of the soul really is not understood out in the world. Yet that is where the spiritual hunger is starting for those who you seek to connect with. It is there soul hunger that desires to know the ascension scheme, and while the simple message is the Father hood of God and the result in brotherhood of man, there is a lot of error, some of it deliberate in rebellion, some of it propagated innocently and some of that is propagated not so benignly.

But what it cannot do is withstand the truth of the ascension scheme being expressed positively and assertively and infused with your service and your projects and anytime you wish to share the Good News. And so, a conference really should, could, and ought to be about not just learning what is rehashed in a static book, nor should there be a sharing of how one found the book when such an experience could be years and years and years ago. Why not ask the question what has happened to you since then? How are you, how were different before and how have you evolved? And what do you think needs to get done that you could reach up, and receive what Michael has for you to reach down. Because Jesus declared, you have the Father  in you to hear.

So, there's this great feedback loop, a circuit, if you will, that you could strive to know the Father and hear Michael. Then once you are comfortable in your citadel of the Father, the citadel of yourself and your Thought Adjuster as part of you, and that you understand who you are and where you're going, and you feel loved and safe in that, you're ready to serve and not merely adjust. And you understand the ascension scheme provides a (kind of) satisfaction, regardless of how bad the planet gets. That you have at least reached a point in your evolution, in your ascension here on this planet now, so to speak, in this life, and your Thought Adjuster, and angels, and your soul is all the better off for it.

And that the last step before you go in the little time you may have left is to really go for it. So, that's all I have to say, and thank you. This has been Gabriel, Gabriel Salvington, and I wish you all a good day in Michael's peace, and the Father 's love. Amen.


Dominick
Thank you, Gabriel. Alright, so we're at 2:28 (pm) and I'd like to welcome a few internet callers, Robert, Charlotte, and Mr. zum Felde, welcome. Well, bear with me for a second. So with that, let's see, let's go with something else we took away in transmission the day before, so yesterday. So this was all. So it's fresh, and it reads the following. I wrote, I wrote the notes down. And for those of you who meditate or, you know, wish to experiment you could say, or see if you're able to transmit, it's really about journaling and getting a free flow you could say, where you're not really thinking about it. I'm more or less worried about it, having anxiety about it.

Anyways, this is more on the identities. So the personal identity, and then the national identity. Because when you're dealing with identity, you always have it regardless of what group you might be a part of or acting in. You have a self identity When you're in a tribe, you have an identity. A lot of us have family identities. And well, that's a, I mean, we have all been in the family and felt the pleasure and pain of having our identity within a family. I mean, it starts there, whether you, you have your true self, and then you have immediately what another person perceives you are, which has maybe nothing even to do with you. And then you go on into the tribe and the nation in the state, and then you feel that more when you go say overseas or to different countries, and experience it there. So, anyhow, the following is what I wrote down in my, my book here.

The seed of your personal identity is the Universal Father . And, and then we, in quotations after that, if you have trouble saying the Universal Father , there are plenty of equivalents that you can use. So continuing the features of your identity is your soul and the present of your identity is your personality, capable of freewill. And that the the afterlife, your ascension plan, your ascension, salvation, whatever, is a fusion of all of these things and there is a unity being sought after, that eventually you will have this event, this fusion event, which is the advancement of your ascension into a spirit being, a comp that is the beginning of your cosmic citizenship. With that fusion you are a spirit being.

Now let's combine, let's contrast that a little bit with the seed of your national identity. So how would the celestials define that? Well, the seed of your national identities reside in the deity and divinity personalities governing the administrative bodies of the universe. And that you need look no further than Michael of Nebadon, as your Sovereign. All loyalty resides in the Father, and he is known to you through Michael. So, that's the end of that blur. But you know, if you, if you can move your identity into those seats, personally with the Father and you're in your ascension scheme without losing your own identity in the middle of your personality, and that your national identity as a nation reside in deity and divinity, not a book!

So I would, well, I guess the word is challenged, but I'm not trying to be belligerent, but if … I think it would be tough in a conference for everybody to say that. And when I suspect that not so secretly, we are all wishing to have no fear, and safely and without anxiety saying the seed of our identities in the Father. It’s in Michael and it's with Spirit. And that we need not retreat to the safety of talking about a book.

So that's all I have to say about any written verse. I do have more, there was some stuff I might talk about later, but say that a Mission might coalesce these things and say the universities, but the universities has much more to do with just anything that the Urantia, anything affiliated with that is trying to do. And we've touched on in the last Lightline, I think, some of the pillars of study, you could say, or where that would fall in.

And just a little thing before I go, I'd be remiss, I also made a blunder personally, in my first public speaking about WPP, that… It was funny. I had somebody just calculating in their head when I said, 14 or 20 megahertz…, or 20 gigawatts. What is it? Okay, I can get that right. 20 megawatts of power being broadcast 200 miles. Well, he did a quick calculation and he turns to me and he goes, Yeah, that's about the 6000 toasters, and explains how he developed this unit that he gave toasters to fire, like how many, how much power is to each device. And so that took me off guard. I panicked a little inside, I thought to myself, well that's, that's not something that's going to power entire cities. Maybe I misspoke, and I didn't have the literature in front of me to refer to.

So I naturally thought to myself, Well, I must have misspoke, maybe I meant to, say 20 gigawatts. And so I'm so sure of myself in that correction that I tried, I compound my error by stating that I must have meant 20 gigawatts. And then even said that to another person who was listening later on that day, hey, I meant to save 20 gigawatts. That's let solve the toaster dilemma because I knew that this pattern was going to power much more than just 6000 toasters. Well, long story short, the broadcast of 20 megawatts, it turns out to be correct. and the gentleman who said 6000 toasters was right. But what we didn't understand with each other, and we did not convey was that each antenna, any end device, or any end user, sticking that antenna up to catch that broadcast receives the constant flood of 20 megahertz or megawatts. (hah-ha)

When we talk megahertz, that's the frequency it may have at 86.4 megahertz. So anyway, you get the idea. And I took that all the way up to the podium when I introduced the patent publicly. I don't think it was caught and this will be corrected, but we need…, we do need to correct that. Luckily, the literature and everything that fits the pattern doesn't go on by what I said, but the fact remains the pattern, the literature, I'll say 20 megawatts, meaning that any household will run by receiving those megawatts into their home. And Ron explained to me that if you needed to amplify that, you could pick it up at a substation and amplify it there if you needed more power, but you get the idea.

Is there anyone wishing to step in on my loose lips?

Arthura, go right ahead. You're, you're bailing water just fine.

Arthura
This is Arthura. And I welcome the group assembled here. Bur as Arthur I am the king of transmitter augmentation. You can converse with me freely. I invite those who transmit to understand that I come to you with the will of the Father. I fully recognize the Father as you know him, and I tell you, I know him more. But that is only to say, I can give unto you that of what the Father has distributed to me to give to you. Is my honor, is my service, and most often it is my duty, as it is defined and guided here by Michael. I turn, I turn inward to seek His guidance and He speaks to me.

Those of you who know the Father understand the word controller. And when I say that it means you do not understand, I will attempt to clarify your understanding. This is Arthura. You should always seek that, which balances the energies of all that you are. It is so complex. Once you isolate on one thing, there are 10 more things connected to that one thing that add to the balancing of that energy. And, so, what the controller is is not something that attempts to affect your will, rather the controller as the regulator, the modifier, when you have reached a stage of Father attunement with your, with the Father within you.

The energy I speak of that represents all these different things does get expressed as thought. And so, the adjustment of that thought happens early in life as you build the soul, and then another stage is the control, the effective control, the effective use what without the wild imbalances or out of sync disturbances that would be wildly out of sync, out of recognition, even unconsciousness of the Father. But at the same time, you need not be so hyperly conscious of the Father that you second guess what you're doing.

The controller represents a term where you are becoming more in sync, and be trusting that the control mechanism of the Thought Adjuster is becoming more and more closer to, not just synchrony, closer to fusion. And it's at that point where you are well instructed to invite dialogue and learn to listen, and remove the anxiety, and freely trust that the mind is capable of discerning that spirit can indeed communicate with your mind.

After all, these are personalities. The Father is pre-personal, and a lot of the beginning stages is literally scaring yourself and doubting yourself possibly when your mind speaks to you as you, in your own voice. And something deep within you feels as if it was somewhat outside of you, all at once, and that is a good rope to hang on to.

Dominick
Do you want to use the word rope, Arthura?

Arthura
Not really. But it's as good as any.

Dominick
Okay. I just think some people automatically think it's a good rope to hang yourself with,

Arthura
Certainly they're free to think that, but I hope they have a good laugh.

Dominick
Well, thank you, Arthura.

Arthura
This is Arthura. It is no laughing matter, but if you don't lighten up, you will never know some of the best qualities during your lifetime here in the flesh.

It is the seat of joy that allows you to share the Father with your brothers and sisters. No one likes a sour pass, no one likes someone who's so serious in their worship that is not inviting in a joy to share. That is a good note to live with. I'm Arthura, and I wish everyone a fantastic evening.

Dominick
Thank you, Arthura. Well, we, we close out. I think this is all the Lightline has to say unless there's anyone else. And I see no hands, and so what I'll do is probably close the Lightline recording, and we'll see who wants to stay on, but I'll leave everything in mute. And we can just hang on in silence if you wish. Good day everybody.

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Lightline USA on April 02, 2024. Host: Dominick   Thanks to all who attended.

Here is the link to the audio: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240402_110026 


Thanks to all who attended.


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General Discussion / Re: Mission Statement April 1, 2024 -
« on: April 02, 2024, 12:33:29 pm »
"But the in tact information is lost due to the cabal listing itself first and the information required to operate it now missing.  I am authorizing its presence, and that is it."

Is this mean Ron that the cabal's presence that made the information disappear is allowed by Michael of Nebadon? There is no doubt that they would never stop being most harmful then they are able. So, it is hard for me to understand why would they be allowed still, or if I misunderstand it? 

Thank you, 
sonsofGod

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1. 040134 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise; other transmitter: Ron Besser;
2. Subjects: 
a) The Melchizedeks are fully prepared for the work to be done, will come to us and help us. Give it time to grow and see how the first very difficult steps will work out. The truth will shock people and it will seem unbelievable for most,
b) Mother Mary shared her earthly experiences of receiving the baby Jesus, his crucifixion and resurrection, its meaning to her and us, and her kind words to us
c) Jesus will come again to teach the population, and explained the way to the Father through Christ
d) Read Ron’s post on the forum he joust put ip right before this Lightline
e) Spanish speaking transmitters must transmit in Spanish and not in English unless they take a dictation
f) Michael of Nebadon is fully disgusted of Urantia politics that makes the Missions impossible. We will see him on television only, not yet a visible Mission.
g) Free electricity project will be though the Magisterial Foundation, and the sixth epochal revelation.
h) The UAI conference was a shame to Michael of Nebadon, and the last one
i) Three points of deceleration; war is coming to Urantia
j) More news on the reorganization of the Magisterial Foundation, on the future of Urantia Foundation
k) The Empty days of the week for Lightlines must be filled
l) Another bad political decision of the United States just announced  
3. Speakers: Machiventa Melchizedek, Mary, mother of Jesus, Jesus, Christ Michael, Michael of Nebadon
4. Transcriber: sonsofGod
5. Link To Tape:  https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240401_110202
 
Elise  
Hello, everyone. It's Monday today, in a new month, April, and it's the first day of April 2024. This is Lightline Netherlands International. I'm Elise Sofia Veronica, your host. And I'm glad to see so many of you on the call today, and through internet connection also, we are at the moment with 18 altogether. And let's see if we may receive some words from the spiritual world. But first, let's give thanks to the Father, just for our lives, and for being a part of His creation. Where we can more and more experience the immensity of His love for us as we grow and come to understand, all what represents truth and beauty, and goodness. We also ask for clear communication and understanding of speech. We thank You, Father, for giving us this day and the opportunity to be with you. And let's see if there is someone for us here who would come to address this group.
 
Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. Good day to all. Yes, I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and well, you have... yeh, you have received some words on Easter day, I remember. All I can tell you that we are working hard to get things done that are on the agenda, to be able to explain the nations of Urantia when the time comes our announcements with the intention of making things clear and understandable to you. To all of you, to the world. We, as the Melchizedeks, are fully prepared for the work to be done. But that does not mean that we have a full idea of how the visible missions could be offered to the people in a most careful manner, You know that many ways of introduction have been mentioned and changed and adapted many times because of various unexpected situations here on the planet, but also in many affairs in the universe. We, as the Melchizedeks, we do like to come to you. We know the planet, we know you, and we have looked forward to working with you and among you. And we will but for now we will have to stick for some time to our own resources, to our own personnel, because it has become too dangerous to involve any of you, when we show up in the field. And of course, you know, what I mean by that
 
The Father does not want anything to go wrong, that would normally be assigned to any of the celestials, and could be assigned to any of you, but should really be done by celestial beings of high status and authority. It is just too risky, too uncertain to start something like that. And although we hope to be your collaborators in some way, in times to come, we hope that you will understand and give it time to grow and see how the first very difficult steps will work out for both sides, the spiritual side and the human side
 
Yes, we need to be very careful and not be hasty in our decisions, or to have you burdened with all the unforeseen consequences that can come from actions or work that has not been applied on this planet before. And that could shake up the entire population. It will certainly give them a totally new image of the world and of their future. They will all have to deal with that. No one will be able to escape the consequences of the evolution of the planet itself, and its relation to men. No one will be able to escape the methods that are used to inform people of the truth of life and survival of their growing souls into the Father's Kingdom.
 
I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and yes, for very good reasons the truth will shock people. And it will seem unbelievable for some and for most, I could say, but it must be faced for the ongoing development of all and everything on this planet. A planet that has been ruled by turmoil and extortion, abuse and crime, selfishly dominating groups with money and power all the way up to war. In reaching an innocent population is dragged along and the world is trapped in the grip of poverty and retardants in every field. I am Machiventa, you know me well. And you also know that's my order, the order, the order of Melchizedeks, will always be ready. We are very experienced to work for the good cause. Many of our order will assist you in what you have to go through. And many will have to take on very difficult tasks and methods to restore and reform this world, and to get all this done. But we promise, we will do our utmost and succeed in our efforts to fulfill the hopes, the wishes of our Creator Father, Michael of Nebadon, who is also your Creator Father, and Master Sovereign of his local universe of Nepotism.
 
I am Machiventa, and we hope you understand that any decision made is for the good of Urantia, and for all people, and for all generations to come. And we thank you for now, we stand back. And I will hand this over Elise to someone who is very familiar to all of you, but does not speak very often, if ever on the Lightline, as we remember. Thank you for listening. I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and I step back.
 
 
Elise
Thank you, Machiventa Melchizedek, thank you. Thank you for your words, and your care.
 
Mary, the Mother of Jesus  
This is Mary, the mother of Jesus, my son, who was born to me and was my first child in our little household. It was very difficult to leave our home just before he was expected, and to undertake the journey to Bethlehem in the condition I was in. But we, Joseph and I, like everyone else had been called to register by order of the Roman rulers who ruled Palestine at that time. And heavily packed we left. I could often rest on the donkey that Joseph had prepared to serve as a beast of burden for my convenience. And we completed the journey in a few days knowing that it will be difficult to find shelter in a very overcrowded city of Bethlehem, which was our destination. Joseph was very caring. He took good care of me and the animal and we arrived in Bethlehem tired but in good spirits. When looking for a place to spend the night we found a place where many people had set up their little camps. But because I was heavy with the child we were eventually offered a place in an empty barn with clean straw and water, which was very suitable for spending the night. But much rest was not given to us as Jesus was born that following day, and we were happy with the health of the women who were around to help. Jesus was a beautiful, healthy baby, and we were both overjoyed. I can tell you this, because you all understand the happiness of a mother, holding her newborn in her arms for the first time. And admiring the life that has just been born from her. It is that deep, motherly love that in a very special way, bonds, mother and child forever. And together with the father's love, will set aside everything throughout their lives, to give that child everything the child needs
 
All sorrow or pain, or all that will happen to her child strikes a mother deep in her heart. And she will always be willing to sacrifice everything for her children. When a child suffers or dies, it is always heartbreaking for the parent, in whatever way the child is called back to the Creator. But there is no way I can explain to you my pain, my suffering, when I experienced what was done to my son Jesus when he was arrested as an innocent man, and cruelly put to death.
 
The pain in my heart was unbearable. In many times, I felt myself on the verge of collapsing. And only my family members knew how to keep me going. The death of Jesus was horrible to witness. And it took me years to get rid of the images of this repulsive event that transformed me and my family into stronger believers in the words that Jesus had imparted to us, but which never erased the images and the grief.
 
And now, my dear children just after Easter you have been celebrating the resurrection of Jesus. And that is exactly the right thing to be celebrated forever. His life on earth was of great significance and will forever prove to be of value to this world, and to the many other worlds in Nebadon and beyond. For Jesus's resurrection is proof to all the living in the entire universe of the power Are and love between the Creator Son, and a Bestowal Son, the divine mystery of the Father revealed to the people of the inhabited planet
 
I am Mary, the mother or Jesus, I say this to all of you. Nothing is so holy, so purely Divine is what has manifested itself here in this world during the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. it overshadows all pain and sorrow and destroys it, through to divine manifestation and love of the Father himself. Remember these things when you celebrate Easter. And remember my joy when I came to understand all these, and when I came to the full realization of its meaning, as you all will one day. May this truth take root in your heart so that you may be forever reconciled with the glory of our Jesus of whom I, Mary, had the privilege of being the mother. I am truly Mary, Jesus's earthly Mother and I give you my son with all my love, as He gave Himself to you. Love one another as Jesus has loved you during his life in the flesh. I thank you. Good day.
 
Elise
This is Elise. Thank you Mary. That was a wonderful story. Thank you so much. Thank you very much.
 
Jesus
This is Jesus. I'm here for all of you. And I give you a few words to remember for today, and the days to come. For the world will see me again and will learn of the many things I'm going to teach them. They will have to get used to my different ways of teaching, especially those who have learned about my previous life on this earth. I have much to say, which will not always be easy to understand and appreciate. I'm coming to the world for a second time as I promised, when I left the world so many years ago. I am still Jesus, but I have been given a different status, and I now work for the Father and for Michael of Nebadon as deity. I have the power to do that and to make sure that my world of my human birth becomes a world for the Father to enjoy, and for his children to grow and prosper, and to live in his name.
 
Yesterday was Easter Sunday. I did not speak. Although it's a very special day in history. But most people do not understand its meaning. They will just tend to their own business and gather for a happy meal. That's good. I want them to have fun. I want them to enjoy each other, to be happy. That's the way it is. That we are in for a change.
 
Remember, we come to this planet to help, to correct, what has been done to the planet and its peoples for so many generations. Many have refused their Creator. God, who loves each of his children, and continues to wait for their love in return. I am Jesus. Keep up the good spirits, all of you. Be what you always are, trustful and patient. Be happy and full of expectation for a new time to come. I am Jesus. I am your Jesus, and I am with you every day. Remember me. The way to the Father is through me. I am your shepherd. I am your teacher. I am your brother. I am Jesus. And I wish you a blessed day
 
Elise
Thank You, Jesus. Thank you so very much for coming to us on this Lightline. Thank you for your words.
 
Christ Michael
You're very welcome. I am Jesus, but now is Christ Michael. And I want to speak a few words. It is this. All who understand the mystery of my incarnation to become the Christ, they'll be with me in the kingdom. It is the Father who asks his Sons to experience the worlds of His creation. No matter what those worlds offer them, they will succeed in their missions. But they are the Sons of God who represent him in the realms of creation. For the Father will never come down to meet his children. No, the children go up to the Father, after they have experienced what the Father has given them. We, the Christ, are the means by which the Father spreads his knowledge and shows the people of the inhabited planets and throughout his creation, his love and his great mercy to those who do not know yet, but we'll learn by taking up their cross, and walk with me, to the Father, who will see your efforts and understand your love for him.
 
I am Christ Michael. These words are not difficult to understand. And they will even reach the ears of all those who do not believe in the Father. And his holy existence is Christ Michael. And I have spoken. Remember these words, and go in peace.
 
Jesus
This is Jesus again to all of you. Take these words of Christ Michael and make them your own by doing what your life offers you to do. Do not neglect what has been brought before you, for you shall go where the Father wants you to go. You shall serve where the Father needs you to serve, along with others, making the world a little brighter. With the help of me, Jesus, and many, many other divine Sons sent by our Father who was once ordained that is will be done. And no one can escape it. Nor will they be able to deny the truth or what the Father has so clearly indicated to his creation of time and space. This is Jesus and we are all waiting for the right moment to put our feet on the ground to join hands and join in a Mission, so important to this world. Your world, my world, as I was once a human on this earth. This is Jesus and I leave you again with my peace.
 
Elise
Thank you so much Jesus. Thank you Christ Michael. Thank you for these special-special messages we may hear today. Let's see what else we can do. Let me look at your dashboard for a moment. We have, oh we have Charlotte and Carol joining us. They came in a little later. And I see Ron is joining us also. You're all very welcome shall we? So, we're up to 19 altogether.
 
Let me see if I can connect to something else? Someone else? Ron, I have a very strong feeling that I have to hand it over to you. I just try to... I'm just going to ask you, if if you're ready, if you can take it for a while. You are unmuted Ron.
 
Ron Besser  
All right, Elise, this is Ron, can you hear me all right?
 
Elise
Yes, sure.
 
Ron Besser
Okay. I have more or less relegated myself to a back seat in order to appropriate what is really going on. The entire idea of the Magisterial Foundation is to have prepared a landing ground for whatever the Creator Son wishes to use it for. We are more or less put out to sea and not operating very well at all. But, I do have a connection yet to Christ Michael. And he wishes to speak on additional concerns.
 
Christ Michael
I am Christ Michael. I recently had Ron post a very important post that describes my conviction that the world has gotten itself into a turmoil that is very hard to remove. In normal Missions, we will remove the worst of the problems and motion all to see the circumstances and what we must prevail with. That post is up. He posted it after the Lightline started, but had to take about an extra 10 minutes before he could finish it. He is in difficulty. He's nearly blind and has no real feeling and his fingers or legs. I am pressing that in order to make sure that the entire issue of the Magisterial Foundation is no longer present. However, it has been present long enough to make a statement.
 
The statement is the Magisterial Foundation is now the organ through which I will speak to Urantia. I am Christ Michael. I am no longer just the Creator Son. For reasons of state Ron is sitting back and letting me take the entire meaning of this connection to you for whatever it means to you. We've slowed him down as we've slowed Elise. Those of you who speak Spanish need to speak English better. I am going to announce that transmissions which are going out through Hispanic individuals will be mostly in Spanish, then English. You're not asked to do the English I will send it to you. But wait when you are done with the Hispanic translation for me to speak English and take it down accordingly with what I dictate, Don't attempt to translate. Do not, I repeat, attempt to translate,
 
And now this. You, Ron, are almost blind, you have about 10% vision left. You are exhausted, you can barely see the list of names in front of you. But you do have the sense of having control. In that control, let me speak to this. I provided Ron a post of considerable length that is now up. Just go find it and read it. It repeats the problem that the Missions have. Urantia has managed to snarl up the entire idea of a managed Mission. I am disgusted with the United States and its allies. And I am thoroughly impoverished with the idea of Russia even being a nation state. However, that's what I have to deal with. Starting, oh, maybe late tonight, maybe tomorrow, I will establish a new regime to talk through. I'm not tired of the Magisterial Foundation, I'm not tired of this discussion forum, but I am very tired of the political situation found on Urantia in the middle of what I consider a robust need for God
 
For reasons of state let me pontificate. One moment. I look at Russia as impossible to deal with. It will learn what to do in the future. I look at the Ukraine situation as impossible. Russia wants to play King Tut. All right. You play King Tut, but I guarantee you kingdom of what? I am asking Ron to slither down from his Magisterial Foundation and just let it ride. He's happy to, as the reason for the appearance of Dominick at the Lightline, or rather at the Conference in Baltimore, was to see to it just what the UAI and others have come to with regard not only to the disaster in Baltimore, but to the disaster on Urantia that I have decided not to do a Mission, but to become fully available through a visible exercise, I never had the chance to do when I was Jesus.
 
You will see me on television. But that's about it. I am not going to come to a world that is so full of chatenary and disabling employees as you've got now. The gentleman called Trump has managed to snarl the political ways of the United States and its allies. In normal times, I would remove him, but these are not normal times. Please be advised. I will not appear, so long as that gentleman is appearing in your political process. I will save you the time of what I think, but I warn you. Do not be particularly caring about the Trump situation, or the United States situation, or the Russian situation, or the Japanese association with regard to China and the South China Sea. It's war. But let's be a little calm. The trial that the Chinese see is that the United States has surrounded it with allies with nuclear technology. It refuses to live that way, and will demand that the United States remove itself from the South China Sea and remove the fleet between Formosa and the mainline Chinese. For that reason, the United States will employ its nuclear edge and provide all allies in the region with one statement. This shall not stand. If it comes to that, and it hasn't it, it has not yet come to that. Then when it does, I will not appear either to the Magisterial Foundation or to Urantia. I will go silent.
 
Furthermore, Ron Besser has the leading edge in one particular concern. He has technology that will save the world. He has free electricity and for that reason, he will have to figure it out himself because we are not going to help one iota. For reasons of state Ron says, Well, fine. It's your technology. I merely copied it. For reasons of state that’s not true Ron, your heart is in that and so is your soul. You are fully aware that the entire matter is dependent upon money and that you are not looked at, much less provided money. For that reason, you have said, All right. Let it sit there until hell freezes over. I'm not budging. For reasons of state, hell is now already apparent, but you are not going to let it freeze over the technology. It will find its own and it will find its way, but I guarantee you do not let it just for the Susquehanna Valley. Let it for the United States and let it for the free world. The communists have made superior changes to their ideology. Their ideology is fail safe, so long as you don't question it. China has managed to put a state together where no one is required to say anything. Just keep your nose to the grindstone and you're fine. China will lose big time. But that's not miy doing. That's political doing.
 
Finally, this, the entire region of the world that will enjoy free electricity is the United States and its allies. It will not broker the time or the temperature to afford free electricity to the communist state. You want to be communist, you go right ahead. But it is required that spiritual progression be dominated by a multi force. Republican or Democratic state. The United States is in terrible grief over the loss of the bridge in Baltimore. Ron knows the bridge he's been over it several times. It's quite a construction. But he also knows that it is not necessary to use if you have an alternate way of getting to the south. That is south of Baltimore.
 
For reasons of state, he knows that route 50 will take him beyond the bridge and does not use a bridge at all. For our calculation, we're going to use route 50 and not worry about a bridge like the Magisterial Foundation. For that reason, then, Ron, you are being removed from the concerns of the Missions and let to survive with the technology that you hold. You don't particularly care but you are a little concerned about what we have in mind. Well, let me tell you what we have in mind.
 
The Magisterial Foundation is no longer the king of what shall we call it? The Internet convention to Jesus, or to the Jesus homes sphere, now Salvington. The Magisterial Foundation is now concerned with the technology, but not speaking to the terminology upon which we base our Mission. Listen to this tape again and again to get that. We will not use the Magisterial Foundation to get to the technology of the Mission. It will be used as the technology for free electricity and whatever else we choose to provide. Ron is stoic about this, you're not. The truth of the matter is that we will have a station broadcasting what we want and what we have to say, free of any human activity. For reasons of state Ron is reacting. What in the world was all that join us at the beginning of the announcement of the Missions and suddenly they are not even speaking, the Magisterial Sons. Well, the problem is not them or you, Ron. The problem is Michael of Nebadon. Ron says, well, that son of a gun. The truth of the matter is I laugh, because Ron is for me, whatever I do. And whatever I do is a surprise.
 
You're not going to have a visible Mission. Not yet. Listen carefully. I am now pulling down all of the means for us to enter. I am putting up all of the means to communicate enough for you to understand what is happening. But the journals that have other Foundations or Missions is now truncated. I don't know what Machiventa Melchizedek has in mind, but we are closing down some of those transmitters. Ron just offered Machiventa a rebuttal. He says he has nothing to say. I am Michael of Nebadon Ron, and you are out of order to suggest that he needs to say anything. All right, Ron, you have your point. In any case, let us say this. The entire matter of the Magisterial Foundation, its work, its technology is flat out denied. If you make one more remark and I see you have and it is this.
 
Ron Besser
We have cooperated. You may do as you please, Michael. We support that. But we will not be silenced, at least until we understand what has prompted the disuse of all that was prepared.
 
Michael of Nebadon
That is fair Ron and I tell you this. That Conference in Baltimore this past weekend. is a shame to me. Ron noted that Steven Gitz went home slightly ashamed and not understanding what he ran into. Dominick Ohrbach stayed the course, and was applied with the usual Gitz over attending a conference with a UAI. I looked at it, and Ron did and said It is useless. It does not settle anything. It leaves open, a way to be used, but there is no confirmation of what to do with the Urantia Foundation or the fifth epochal revelation. Folks, the fifth epochal revelation is over. The sixth will take care of it, but it takes about a year to do it. Ron will do it. He is fully dedicated, and one of my favorite biased individuals. And finally, this. 
 
I have decreed that the Magisterial Foundation will do the Magisterial Foundation technology, but that it is not particularly I'll place for us. What do I mean by that? I mean, we shall not use the Magisterial Foundation, or its ability to combine transmissions, or its ability to stand well. It does stand well, but we dare not use a human institution for what we are about to do. Ron says, I failed to understand that, but as you choose, it is your prerogative, Michael, and we stand with you. For that reason the Magisterial Foundation then folks, is to be applied to the technology and to the Lightlines and to the various communication sets that we have established. But it is not the mission itself. You had hoped that you could participate, Well, you can. But it's not through the Magisterial Foundation. Is through the magisterial pronouncement of another corporation Ron has applied but not used. It is the Michael Foundation, International. It's got sitting there without any broadcast without any bank account. It is just sitting there as a subsidiary of the Magisterial Foundation and the Rayson Corporation. I will make use of it as I will and no need for an account Ron. It is strictly spiritual. I will bring it to your attention now and then and you will bring it to the attention of the world when I say so.
 
And finally, I have never met a son so determined to be right. Ron has supplied everyone with an ability to get into these discussions fully. He is at the end of his road. He is nearly blind. He can barely make the day and frankly is hungry most of the time, not because of lack of food, but because of lack of confirmation. He has placed ready to do anything I want to do, but I don't want to do anything. For that reason Ron says okay, what do you have in mind? The answer is nothing. The truth of the matter is, I'm not doing a darn thing. The truth of the matter is, I have so soiled my hands, trying to put Urantia back the way it was for a Mission that I've lost some of the keep that the Father says is necessary for a Creator Son to provide a Mission when it goes to a planet, especially Urantia.
 
I am now going to decree the following. Number one, the Magisterial Foundation is not corrupt. It is slow and bleeding. It knows the truth. Number two, we are not removing the Magisterial Foundation. We are using it to produce free electricity. It will go. Three, I am no longer going to converse with Ron or anyone else until they understand there is no longer a precipice which they must travel to and jump into the bottom to affirm that they are with us, but have no real understanding as to what they are to do. I thought it was obvious. Ron is obvious. Do as you wish. We support whatever you want. But this is Michael, I will not use the Foundations. I will use my own protocol. And that is to let things ride until we have a Mission. The Magisterial Foundation is the most proud foundation we have on Urantia. It will continue. It will continue to hold these frequency meetings where I may speak. But I will not allow the Magisterial Foundation to produce free electricity without me in charge of the technology. Ron says he's a little confused, he's already dedicated it to the Melchizedeks, that he is not in charge unless there is no one else to speak, then he will speak. I approve of that. But the time is coming, that Urantia will be at war. Don't be fooled. Don't be uncaring. China is a rascal. Japan is a worthy adversary. Formosa will not trigger the war. The United States will by insisting that the South China Sea is freely navigable. China will dispute it. And then the grease is in the fire. It will flame.
 
But that's not immediate. What is immediate is the final statement of the Conference in Baltimore was, we'll see you again on another day. Well, I doubt it. What is about to occur is that the Urantia Foundation has had it and will declare itself more or less out of the way. Ron has not declared that. But he means it. If the Urantia Foundation goes, the Magisterial Foundation is the people, is the corporation, is the staff that will see to it that the Urantia Book is available and readable, and that a new Urantia Book is available by the end of this year. That's number one. Number two, don't mistake the Magisterial Foundation as the Urantia foundation. Even Ron does not do that. But is the survivor of what is to come. Number four. Let it be known that I'm Michael of Nebadon no longer converse simply with Ron, Dominick, and whoever happens to be there. But I am sending them a Melchizedek, fully incarnated to speak with Ron and Dominick in the evenings I choose. That will be fun to Ron and Dominick, but let's put it this way. Melchizedek is not Machiventa, or Manituba, but Mantutia, and he will insist that the Magisterial Foundation become the spokesman for what is left of the plans for a spiritual Mission to Urantia.
 
I am withdrawing all capabilities, all intentions now. They will have their meetings in the evening when I propose. They will see him inside and no need to go to the door, Ron. That's fine with you. You are fully acclimated with that anyhow, and Dominick will get used to it.
 
Finally this. The temper of some of you is, this is grandstanding. Well be damned. You're not welcome. For those who take it honestly and sincerely, we have a place for you. It's not the Magisterial Foundation, but for now it does. To keep us together and to not remove the foundation which is listening. We are quite sure that the symposium that was held in Baltimore was the last of its kind forever. Ron sent Dominick because he couldn't go. Steven attempted to be there and he was made very ill. The truth of the matter is, it's no way to conduct an epochal revelation and a Mission, the size we have prepared. It must be withdrawn. The sixth epochal revelation prepared. The Magisterial Foundation enlivened that it produces technology and the six epochal revelation. It's the only one, the only position we have left on Urantia. Ron has carefully worked it. What you propose Michael is yours. I will support it. For those of you who do not support it, be damned. You're welcome to go to the wind and reap whatever is there. You have no understanding, none, of what is proposed.
 
Ron does and holds it well. I will continue to communicate with him. The discussion forum is too valuable to take down, But people I warn you, you're losing your center when you do not discuss the modes of the day that trouble you. Ron looked at it and said well do I take it down? It's useless. The only thing that we have got going is the Lightline. And that is not discussed. We need more posting, we need more availability. I have thought to put up another one and I will. But it will be by invitation only. This one, the one you're using now will continue as it is. There are reasons to state that the next one is by invitation only. And not immediately.
 
And now this to you Ron Your eyes are very bad, you can barely see, You are not welcome to spirit away while others play.
 
Ron Besser
(hah) All right.
 
Michael of Nebadon
Now this. It tickles your sense of humor because you know it got a fist in it. But also, you don't understand what you may have done wrong or not done. You have done everything and you have not done wrong. You have left the door open to join, to use and to make use of, but you have not said to me take it and I will assist. You are silent because I'm not done.
 
This. I will take on the Magisterial Foundation fully, providing you are entirely absent for one week. You want to play with the word weak, for that's what you consider yourself if removed. But I need to rebuild the Magisterial Foundation, so that it is a powerhouse. It will not take the place of the Urantia foundation. That is another corporation you have already established, Ron, and I will make it clear what I want. You say fine, that is just fine. But this, I probably am going to remove you not as a living human being, but as an abstract of me. You are not easily concerned with a Magisterial Foundation or any of its doings unless we have a direct voice. And without the direct voice, you find it just another corporation. That's true. and you do not make a lot of fuss about it. For reasons of state then, the Magisterial Foundation is not truncated, but stays as the technology. And I will use the Michael Foundation International as the spiritual mission to Urantia in absentia until we decide that a Mission is really possible.
 
And you say, so be it. You do not bother to fight the other institutions that must be enjoined. You have Raz working on the archive, do so. It's mighty important. Raz, get it done. There is an urgency to it. War. Get what you can. Let Ron know what you have. Be specific. How you have protected it, and how we may provide it for readers in the future to know the final dissolution of what we prepare for a Mission to Urantia, with a Magisterial Foundation and whatnot, and are going to prepare the Mission with the Magisterial Foundation regarded. It's too good. We like it. We can plan through it.
 
As far as the other spokesman, transmitters out west, and in certain cases out east, we are going to ask them to stand down and provide nothing for about a week. Here we go again. Today is the first of April 2024. We are now learning that we are shutting down, not the Magisterial Foundation, or the magisterial discussion forum known as Serara.org. We are going to announce this. 
 
Number one, no Mission, not as you understood. Number two, no final dissolution. Urantia Foundation will remain until it falls apart. Number three, The Magisterial Foundation known as this particular forum will remain. It's too valuable. You are to hold the meetings of Lightlines, as far as I'm concerned, forever into the future. Tomorrow is Dominick. Wednesday is Lemuel. There is no Thursday and Friday and Saturday but Sunday is Ron. Ron will be available and well. I insist that new Lightlines be accorded to the schedule. You now have Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, empty Thursday, Friday and Saturday. I want them filled with Ron. You cannot comment to the unity, or to the other individuals who transmit. Well, because they have decided you are useless. Well, let them decide that, let them become cast to the wind. We don't care about them. Machiventa does, and we'll see to it as he pleases.
 
You, Ron, will decide how to put it together. But we invite unity and other transmitters to fill in Thursday, Friday and Saturday transmissions as Lightlines scheduled here at 2pm on every day. And for that reason the invitation is open. Let us see what you do. Otherwise, you have no say.
 
And finally this Elise, we're over half an hour. But so what? I'm giving this back to you with the understanding that Elise, you are not to open any office for the EU until there is some understanding by the EU that God matters. In the United States it is still a major factor. In the east, it doesn't matter. We shall make a difference, but our way. The Magisterial Foundation and the discussion forum shall remain present. I will see to the remaining concerns of Ron in his own way. I now return this to you, Elise, for your own consideration and to end this particular Lightline now.
 
Ron Besser
This is Ron, Elise, go ahead and take it back. And do as you please. Thank you.
 
Elise
Yes, thank you, Ron. I will, thank you. And great Michael of Nebadon for this long and extensive dictation, and a very clear explanation. And know Ron, that we appreciate your work, especially in the circumstances you're in. Thank you so much. We're going to close this Lightline. We have had 20 on the call. And I have seen a very important Lightline, very important to listen to again and again. I think it's very clear how it was explained. So, thank you, Machiventa Melchizedek for coming to us, and Mary, the mother of Jesus, Jesus himself, and Christ Michael and Michael of Nebadon, and all of you who came to be our listeners on this very important Lightline. I thank you all. I wish you a very good day.
 
Ron Besser
Elise. Elise, this is Ron.
 
Elise
Yes.
 
Ron Besser
One moment
 
Christ Michael  
I am deed to speak in spite of my question and I allow this to come through regardless of my concern.
 
Ron Besser
Go ahead voice if there is one, and let us know what you have held the closure up for please.
 
Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael Nebadon. Ron. I didn't know if I would dare do that. But your senses are super alert. You will not permit the cabal to speak, but you will allow Me to speak.
 
Ron Besser
I certainly do.
 
Christ Michael
Thank you. I am Christ Michael. I have stepped on her farewell and I will return to it, so you can close it down fully, Elise. But hear me out on this. The truth of the matter is that Ron is operating on about 6% of his energy. He is unable to see almost anything, and is just about ready to close the Lightline and take on what's left of the day. I am going to say this to all of you. Don't count me out for anything I may propose. I am fully disgusted with the United States, with Europe and Southeast Asia. None of them can seem to pull out the truth. War is not allowed. Wait till they run into that. But also listen to this.
 
I am not going to esteem myself by speaking only to Ron, Dominick, you have got to set up another discussion forum using the simple machines, so that we can have an audience that is invited and that we do not play to those who do not listen. Many of you are so decided that this is normal circumstances. It isn't. I am returning this to you Elise, only to warn Ron and Dominick they've got to perform immediately and not wait for another day. Dominick, you need to be with Ron to determine what is planned and to do it immediately. Do it there while you're at Ron's. I want another discussion forum. Ron, we'll set it up, you bring it online. And further, it will be by invitation only. Don't go looking for it without the invite.
And fully this. I am outraged at what has just happened. The United States has warned Jordan that unless it provides the food and supplies, it will do so, but will stage the aircraft and ships not in Jordan, but in Saudi Arabia. It's the wrong move. In any case, I turn this back to you, Elise.  I'm sorry for the input., but it just occurred and I wanted to speak to it.
 
Ron Besser
Go ahead, Elise, close this down then. Thank you.
 
Elise 
Thank you Michael, thank you Michael of Nebadon. You are always welcome to speak in any time or any circumstance. You’re welcome to do whatever you think is needed, thank you so much. Well, let us close up this Lightline for today by just saying goodbye and just waiting for another day and another Lightline tomorrow. Thank you for listening and have a good day and good night.  
 
End 
 

8
1. 032624 Audio Tape Tuesday Light Line USA; host: Dominick O.
2. Subjects:
  • opening announcement regarding Lightline transcripts
  • no available sovereign land to claim for the Missions
  • the five pillars of social engineering, Ministers of social engineering  
  • definitions of expectancy, anticipation, and preparation, correlating to pre-Bestowal, Bestowal, Second Return, post Bestowal
  • question about Dominion’s relation to Mission policies
  • Ron Besser is the spokesman for the Magisterial Foundation
  • LIGHTLINES: Transcribing the Lightline continue, the beginning of all Lightline in the early 1990s, western transmitters have to align with the Magisterial Foundation for international outreach, Sunday Lightline is the focal point of the Lightline, all others are very important.
  • The collision of a freighter with one of the supports of the Baltimore Bridge
  • the coming UAI conference is the last one for them
  • threat to talk about the intervention of Magisterial Sons into national governments
3. Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Arthura, Machiventa Melchizedek, Abraham, Universal Father, Mantutia Melchizedek, Trinity
4. Transcribed by: sonsofGod
5. Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240326_110218
 
 
Dominick
Welcome to Tuesday Lightline everybody, today is March 26, and this follows a schedule of Lightlines Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. Say a quick prayer individually and together to Father for a good Lightline.

All right, just so you get a picture today I'm standing up during the Lightline, and I had to, because of audio difficulties call it in on my cell phone, which is on this podium or lectern that I'm speaking from at Michael's request. I chuckled because it's a little bit abnormal from my normal sitting down, and maybe closing my eyes. But if you hear shuffling, that's just my papers on the podium or knees shuffling around in general among the sound and standing up giving the Lightline today. And for those listening on the call, we appreciate it. If you hear the bells of people coming in and out of the call, and we've had a bit of audio difficulty today, so just bear with it if it happens.

Do we have anybody on the celestial, spiritual, or other side of the veil so to speak, that I'd like to lead the Lightline today, or come in and get us going?
 
Michael of Nebadon
Thank you, Dominick, this is Michael of Nebadon. I want to make it known that transcriptions are only necessary for Sunday. And those are to be exact, but if you who transcribed wish to keep doing it, you're quite welcome to. However, those that are accustomed to reading, the transcripts are always warned, it is not an exact transcription, nor the flavor or nuance of my voice that might come through when you are to listen. You should easily just understand no one really reads the transcripts of the news. And likewise, are you discouraged from reading the transcripts as your sole purpose of keeping up with these Lightlines? You should listen. There's all sorts of reasons to do so, but when we serve a meal, we ask that you enter the venue. We are strange to resources on this limited amount of helpers to constantly serve you via delivery, and then have that meal be not the complete service that you would have received had you come to us in our venue, which is defined as you listening to the Lightline.

Now that we are done with that subject, I continue as Michael of Nebadon. Where do we begin? I came through to this transmitter this morning with a couple of phrases and words. The Lightline is not your Lightline, I told him. This is true of all Lightlines and transmitters. You are serving through your capacities, your vocabulary, and we utilize that.

We started off with the phrase, what's the difference between the Prince of Peace and the Denver Airport? Well, nothing. It’s beyond your imaginations. Yet you, mean you children of Urantia you call upon God, but I tell you, you are responsible for your own households. Even the babies in the bed, the birds, they cry for their share. They are conditioned from an unconsciousness to a behavior pattern in the environment, which also conditions them and yet you have free will. And you weigh meanings and values and you have seed your will, to the unknown for the simple reason, it's easier to do.

A new culture will emerge when I am known and accepted. And frankly not even that much at first, in my acceptance, but I assure you I will be known. Now, social engineering is a fact, this occurs with or without me. It is almost the nature of man and its organizational authority, but it is also a natural way of life. Not only is there social convention, but there is, by those who are in authority, social engineering. To that effect, we are making some of the following announcements.

I will outline the pillars of social engineering that must be done. They are the following and they will number five, but they are not the total. And they are not necessarily in any order of priority. They're all, you could say, equal.
  • the economy and the environment
  • energy and labor
  • government and military
  • education and family
  • purpose and meaning
These pillars of social engineering will be headed by Magisterial Sons who will take on, possibly, the title of Magisterial Ministers. In other words, the Magisterial Minister of economy and environment, and so on.

Now, when it comes to Missions, we have a difficulty on Urantia, on this planet, given its status and age and development, at a headquarters of, and ambassadors to whom those headquarters are in a conundrum that there is no available sovereign land to claim. There is no real estate available to organize ourselves like before. The Planetary Prince landed, organized its own area of ideal choosing, and got to work. Likewise to the Missions of the garden. And today, we find difficulty in claiming any proper land to occupy and work with you and for you, but no sovereign land of our own. No sovereign lands that would work for the Missions anyhow. Of course, we could go to Antarctica, but there would be no reason feasibly to do so. This is just one reason why something like these foundations set up has been outlined, are useful.

Now, moving on, I have more announcements. Not only will there be these ministers of social engineering on the following pillars, but we may introduce the division of anthropology and archaeology. I want to place in your imaginations a group akin to the Pleiadians who would work in liaison with you in such an endeavor. Which gets me to my next announcement, which would be an introductory interplanetary exchange brokered by Salvington. This would fall under the auspices of a Michael Mission. Another such Mission of immediate priority is the disarmament of weapons of mass destruction.

So to summarize, you might see an announcement of Michael and Salvington and Magisterial Missions being known with the outline of not claiming sovereign land, but having to work within the boundaries of nation states, who are cede some of their sovereignty to My Ambassadors and allow them to be embedded into the state apparatus to help with the social engineering of the economy and environment, energy and labor, government and military, education and family, and purpose and meaning. Now, you shouldn't have an inkling, but a good curiosity about what this last one means, purpose and meaning, which, of course will entail all sorts of known social scientists, so to speak of philosophy, science, religion, without claiming one with authority over the other. Science of course, pertains to all of those and does not contain its own social engineering ambassador or minister. Science is the benefit of cooperation and fearless research without reprisals from authority, seeking to maintain its status at the expense of scientific progress.

And so, this is Michael of Nebadon, and I conclude the formal aspects of our Lightline today. And I hang them, or give the platform over to Arthura. I'm Michael of Nebadon, and I've spoken and I wish you all a good day.

Dominick
Thank you, Michael, and welcome, Arthura.

Arthura
This is Arthura ladies and gentlemen. At this point, you are welcome to press 5 * as we have Michael's precious time while he is here, or possibly a staff, if he is indisposed to speak to what has just been announced. I'm Arthura today now with this transmitter, and with a slight expectation that today's Lightline if there's nothing further afterwards, might be truncated a bit. But that, nonetheless, these announcements are a little bit major, and they came through just now this morning,

But what I, Arthura, wish to present is some definition about what to expect, anticipate, and prepare for, and what those things should mean to you, when I say those words, anticipate, prepare and expect. So, what do they mean? And how do they relate to Revelation, and Missions, and Bestowals? And this will help us understand the question is around what, who, and when, and under what conditions do things get covered? 

So, we'll start with anticipation, and anticipation has a corollary or a corresponding thing. And I interrupt this to acknowledge, Lemuel, you've got your hand raised. We will come to you after these brief comments.

So one, anticipation as a corollary, or rather for simplicity's sake, we'll just say correlates to the word presumption, that expectation correlates to the word assumption, but that preparation correlates to the word consummation. So, when you anticipate something you have a presumption about those anticipations. And the nuances that anticipation is a little bit different than expectation. And that you could expect things but that it is based on assumptions of fact. Whereas anticipation you might presume to take on a little more than just matters of fact, but that you presume to take on status and authority. And what separates anticipation and expectation, and presumption and assumption is that when you are in preparation, preparation might entail anticipation and expectation, but preparation not only assumes and presumes a consequence or the fruits of your actions, your creations, and your faith, to consummate into something of substance. And we will leave it at that for a moment.

Dominick
We're going to check in with you, Lemuel. You're unmuted Lemuel. do you have a question or a transmission?

Lemuel
No, I have a question regarding the five (short cough) excuse me, the five parts of what you termed as social engineering. And would it be right to interpret this as similar to five governmentments each having its own ministry?

Dominick
Yes, I think so. Given the title of ministers. We don't have that in the States, but I believe most titles are similar to ministers when you go out into the rest of the world.

Lemuel
Yeah.

Dominick
So, is that's ... was that a minor clarification you wanted, or do you want something in more detail?

Lemuel
No, well, and also that all would be coming from Salvington, correct?

Dominick
There is a..., there is mention of Salvington. You're not wrong or incorrect, but you're not entirely a...

Lemuel
Alright. I understand, I understand Dominick,

Dominick
Let me just ..

Lemuel
What's missing I think is the mention of the Dominion. There's no mention of the Dominion in this. Only pertaining to Urantia, really.

Dominick
Well, it's..., it's not all encompassing either, these are just some Urantia specific  announcements. So what makes you consider that Dominion should be mentioned? Maybe you have something I hadn't pick up.

Lemuel
Well, I don't know whether it was a brief transmission from someone that mentioned the Dominion the..., the effect or not, what would be called a domino effect of the Missions taking place here on Urantia would have presumably some kind of a domino effect throughout a..., for the Dominion. Is this, would this be a wrong assumption? Would they, would they not be affected at all?

Dominick
My thought is, if you, if we understand Dominion that is true, Lemuel. And let me take a page out of Ron's protocol and first bump it up to to Ron, and maybe Ron bumps it up to Michael or higher authority. Ron, you're unmuted. Did you hear Lemuel, Lemuel’s question up till now?

Ron Besser
I did. I've got several things I would like to comment on. I am not sure quite how I am or what our Lightline equipment is.In the middle of what I consider might be a dilution of the Lightline without sufficient transcripts. That's another question. That's not what he's asking.about,but I'm concerned about that.

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael of Nebadon, Ron, you are sitting there. Quite sure something is off kilter.

Ron Besser
Dominick, and to the rest of you. I'm not at peace with some of this. And that may be just because I haven't heard it before. I am not making accusations. But I am saying that we dare not dilute our policy to present transcripts of all Lightlines if we can do it. No, they aren't as important as they once were, but they are still established with a readership that doesn't necessarily speak English to hear it. They need to read it. That's all I need to say about it. With regard, what is the central question that Dominick or rather that Lemuel is asking Dominick, can you rephrase it for me?

Lemuel
Yeah. Would you allow me to? Would you allow me to rephrase it?

Ron Besser
Well, if it's clear, Lemuel. It's not clear to me. Go ahead.

Lemuel
All right. All right. The first part of the question was the social engineering as it is referred to, and there's a beginning list of five, and there are more obviously, as mentioned by Dominick. These are similar, are they not, to five departments or ministries in a normal government? And would each of these have that individual ministry. This is one thing. And the other thing ...

Ron Besser
Let me answer that right now, Lemuel.

Lemuel
All right. OK.

Ron Besser
It is simple. Yes. Go ahead.

Lemuel
Okay, well, thank you for that. The other thing was, of course, that came to me, where is ...? There is no mention of the Dominion. So, what I am asking is ...

Ron Besser
Well, yeah. Well, let's ...

Lemuel
Will there be no...? All right, go ahead. Go ahead, Ron. 

Ron Besser
Let me redefine Dominion for you. The inference has been and that's what you're picking up on, is that they are sharing some of the conditions that this a... Magisterial Bestowal, the Missions themselves, have some germane importance to the Dominion. That is true. But I sincerely doubt that right now, today, March the 26th, that they have any direct influence on either the Magisterial Sons or to Urantia, or through the auspices of the Dominion administration. It's too far undefined so far, Lemuel, to say what their part is, and what is happening for Urantia.I am sure that they would rather speak to this than me trying to cover all the bases.

Lemuel
Yes.

Ron Besser
But remember this Dom... ah, Lemuel. Dominion is not part of Nebadon administration to Urantia. Just clear that for now. But number two, they have taken a great interest because Michael of Nebadon is using the latest Paradise administrative concerns for one of the first Planetary Missions they have used since the death of the supreme. Now, it covers so much information, Lemuel, you've got bits and pieces. You don't have all of it, and neither do I, Ron, but I do know enough that the Dominion is a set aside interest that is allowed to view and participate for meaning and understanding of the new rules from Paradise on how to conduct a Planetary Mission with the absence of the supreme. That is essentially, I believe, what is operating and is so difficult for Michael to explain, for the Dominion to know exactly where it is founded in all this.

And finally this. The Magisterial Foundation in presenting these Lightlines, rather not get into the arguments that are pertaining between the various factions that help present Planetary Missions, as we are about to understand them. I more or less come back to you, Dominick. That is kind of the rule about how we can answer someone like Lamuel, answering a very pertinent question, but without a very pertinent answer. Go ahead, Dominick, if you have a comment.

Dominick
Yeah. To explain it to someone who doesn't know about Dominion Lemuel, it's kind of like advanced stuff for anyone who hasn't encountered all this information before.

Lemuel
Yeah, I understand. Yeah.

Dominick
So, to answer your question, of course, it pertains to the Dominion, but it need not be spoken to and outlined, for our understanding.

Lemuel
Yeah. Okay. Dominick, thank you very much, indeed. And thank you, Ron, thank you so much. Thank you.

Ron Besser
Oh, you're quite welcome. Go ahead, Dominick.

Dominick
All right. I'm gonna mute both of you. Thank you for contributing. All right. Go ahead, Arthura. Was there anything? Shall we continue?

Arthura
Yes, this is Arthura. I was giving a rather confusing monologue about anticipation, preparation and expectation. But what I really want to talk about is the fact that you have these things of anticipation, preparation and expectation, that pertain to the distills, which are defined as the pre-Bestowal, the actual Bestowal, the Second Return, and a post Bestowal.

So, you have a very fragile rope tethered to these things with the fifth epochal revelation that nonetheless educates through the book what these are, and clarifies the pre-Bestowal, and The Bestowal, discusses the Second Return, and outlines a post Bestowal destiny. And also, a normal plan of what typical planets go through, and how the universe administrates these things. But that in doing so, we unwittingly have created a situation where the custodians of a fifth epochal revelation have presumed to be the de facto authority over all of these things, and that they will be asked to cooperate when these Missions actually land.

So we talked about epochal revelation, but we also talked about and remind you about Planetary Missions, smaller Missions within those Missions. There's a smaller Missions happening all the time. And then not only is there epochal revelation, but there is periodic revelation, and there is personal revelation. But that there are also things to brush up upon, such as dispensations, and roll calls.

So the net takeaway is that you need not pieced together all of what I've just said in a coherent message. Other than this, you should take away the understanding that you humans are not in control when we appear. And that you're not even in control now, but that you have, when you are presuming to be in control, assuming you are in control, and you're doing very human things, as guiding your own expectation, and your authority over what to even anticipate. And what gets lost is your actual preparation for concentrating when we do appear. And so, I urge you to understand that preparation is the most difficult and most unknown to your experiences. And to be gentle on those who are preparing for our consummation of arrival.I am Arthura, and I'm out.

Dominick
Thank you, Arthura.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa, I wish you to go to Ron.

Dominick
Oh, all right, Machiventa. Ron, you're unmuted. I got, I got cut off abruptly.

Ron Besser
Okay. Dominick. Machiventa, you are speaking?

Machiventa Melchizedek
Yes.

Ron Besser
What would you have us say?

Machiventa Melchizedek
Beautifully stated, Ron. It's this. You have detailed a certain element I didn't want particularly known. But now that you have, you are remained into place as the Magisterial Foundation spokesman. I never heard anyone unknot a problem like you just did. You are familiar that Dominick is a relatively new transmitter. And as a result, moving between subjects transmitting to him can be a rough exchange, and something gets lost in the transmission. You have made sure that nothing is lost, and make sure, please what you wish to state for the Magisterial Foundation.

Ron Besser
Well, thank you Machiventa for the time to do that. It is only this to remind everybody listening to this, as well as the discussion forum, as well as regards to our own policy to work with the pending Missions, the Magisterial Sons, Michael, and Jesus Christ. I want it to be known that until we are directly ordered to do something that we will continue with our policy of making full transcripts of all Lightlines without favor to Sunday.

Now Sunday Lightline is with the oldest transmitter. I have been transmitting since about 2005. The rest of you are much later than that, because there was no venue to have other transmitters join in a Lightline schedule. For your information, the term Lightline is quite old. It goes back into the mid 1990s when Michael suggested that they learn to transmit, and speak the lessons aloud so that others could hear them and react to them. Beginning about 1992, the first transmissions were produced at a conference in California. That 1992 appearance of a Lightline production through Abraham has set the record ever since. And that's what we copy. That's what we use as our pattern.

Abraham
This is Abraham, Ron. Thank you. Thank you so much, Ron, for bringing this out. Lightline schedules are not meant to be overpowering. I'm Abraham of old. Ron is correct. In 1992, we appeared at a conference in California. And for that reason, we have to this day maintain the pattern. Ron uses it well, as do others who do the Lightlines here.
But let me please, please remind you that there are those copying the Lightline schedules and the means to produce it as a pattern of communication out west. As a matter of fact, they are old transmitters under the old teaching mission. Ron thinks they do fine. Machiventa speaks clearly, but the fact of the matter is, those individuals refuse to cooperate into a unity to make the Lightline an international affair.

Ron Besser
They are preventing it again folks. And they must be reprimanded if they continue. That is Bob Devin, Mr. Mason, Mr. Rogers, and several others who believe they are chief of their own departments.

Machiventa Melchizedek
I remind you Ron, this has not carefully spoken, but there are now two factions operating with Lightlines. I will not have it and I will see to it that you, Ron, are available to unify.

Ron Besser
We wish to do so Machiventa, but they do not even respond. You know that. Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you for the quip. And now this to you, Ron. You are sitting with quite a bit of pain and are almost unconscious without forcing your mind to to take the construction of language to speak this way. You have done extremely well. You have said set a pattern for Uversa to understand that until you are overruled the Magisterial Foundation maintains the transcript policy for Lightlines. Don't change it. Michael is saying, you have the freedom if you wish to not to bother with transcripts. But Ron says, those who do not speak English or have the time to listen to a Lightline on the phone depend on the English transmission in transcript form, and they must not change. That's to you Valerie and to you Raz in particular.

And finally this, Ron. You are not entirely happy with the idea that the Magisterial Foundation is totally under our control.

Ron Besser
Yes, Machiventa. It is my supreme wish that the Melchizedeks maintain control and the discipline required to be an agency of the proposed Missions. The Magisterial Foundation cannot do it without you, please. I am fully under your authority and Mantutia, and Manituba, regarding our behavior and what we do and cannot do. I pledge fidelity to Michael and to the Melchizedeks, who act in his name. I am not a free agent. I'm not a loose cannon. But let me use a seriously vernacular word. I am grandly pissed off at what this behavior of the past teaching mission and its inability to get over ego. I appeal to you Machiventa, who maintains control with them and us, to somehow indicate, as you please, that if there is no unity of standing, there will be consequences.
The Magisterial Foundation will insist until we are told otherwise to provide Lightlines with our wonderful transmitters. It's not easy folks.

And finally, to this, and to you, Michael. We stand in full Legion to the Melchizedek instructions and control. We abide with your Mission as you may direct, but unless there is a direct order to cease transcriptions for Lightlines, and all of them, Valerie, Raz, and the others who attempt to do so, please continue until further notice. Transcripts are too important not to produce. I now humbly resubmit this to you Machiventa, please go ahead. 

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you, Ron. This is Machiventa Melchizedek. The flurry of activity around you has ceased. You are not happy to dilute the outreach you must have with the spoken word. 

Ron Besser
Machiventa, this is Ron. It is the only policy that allows distribution of a verbal content that is so important not only from Salvington, but from Paradise as well. All of them feel free to contact us and through our transmitters. We consider it a great gift and not routine. I insist as one who holds the gift that we maintain the liaison and the loyalty to your words as directly presented through these Lightlines. Please go ahead, Machiventa. 

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you. I will never be sure Ron that you aren't a Melchizedek already. I am quite sure that the pain and suffering you're going through in months of this retribution that there is nothing left for you to do other than to maintain the Magisterial Foundation, the discussion forum and the Lightlines. You are glad to modify as Michael decrees and as we may suggest. You are not a loose cannon. But I am guaranteeing that shortly the Western transmitters as you call that group will learn that you are open to unify their service without being their administration. They are welcome to their own corporations and doing, but that they make use of the Lightlines through the Magisterial Foundation weekly. If they can't manage it, they are not to transmit. That is my degree. 

Ron Besser 
I'm most grateful. It helps me a lot, my thinking, Machiventa. Now I turn this entirely back to you. 

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you, Ron. This is Michael of Nebadon, Ron. You are mature Melchizedek in those sayings. I have never heard a human discuss this so plainly. The truth of the matter is the Sunday Lightline is the focal point of the Lightline. But Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday Lightlines are very, very important. Elise, Lemuel, Dominick and any other transmitter who wishes to join the schedules for the Magisterial Foundation Lightline presentations are most welcome. Valerie, Raz, you continue making the transcripts, please. You fulfill a tremendously important measure to maintain. 

I am Michael of Nebadon. Dominick, I will turn this back to you shortly. But let Michael have this say. Ron has been goaded for the past four days with an unrelenting cabal. They scratch him, they puncture him, they cause unremitting pain.
And finally, this, you, Ron are not going to die and leave it all. The truth of the matter is, you are beginning to feel better. And make sure you maintain a regular schedule. You have done so, you and Dominick do well to discuss this every evening in your home, where I tell you what I want. Gabriel tells you, Arthura tells you, and all other beings from Paradise. And Uversa make use of it. You enjoy it and welcome us. 

Ron Besser
Oh we do Sir. I would be well, naked, that's how it would feel. No protection from the winds of the cabal or the changes this Mission suggests. It's cold. It's hard. And we depend on you, Michael. To Arthura, thank you for your service. And to all others who help. We are grateful. That's all I can say. We have nothing more than to produce what you allow us. Thank you.

Universal Father
This is Father. I did not intend to speak today. I'm too busy. But Ron, you have made your temper available to us, and it's quite a temper. There are those on this discussion forum right now listening to this transcription of my voice. We decided to do it today particularly because Dominick was doing it and he is a close ally of yours, and the planning. 

You looked at the Baltimore News this morning. A freighter collided with one of the supports to the Baltimore bridge. You traveled across it. 

Ron Besser
Yes, folks, it's miles long, and over the wide expanse of the Chesapeake Bay. It's pretty scary in the middle of it. You don't see land. That's how long that bridge is. And wouldn't you know it, a guide on that freighter fell asleep at the wheel. That spirit’s review. He collided with one of the main supports, and the bridge is not usable in certain areas.

Universal Father 
As a consequence, we believe, the maritime order over that freighter will arrest them. Now let me go on to something more germane to us. The truth of the matter is that you wish to attend this conference, Ron, but are too ill, you can't stand long. And for that reason, we acquiesce. If you accompany Dominick to the opening remarks of the UAI, you would stand up and dictate the following words:

To the organizers of this conference, you are being reminded that you are under the auspices of Paradise and the rule of the Paradise Father. We acquiesce, says Paradise, with this conference. But you are actually coming to the end of your conferences with this one. There are Paradise Missions about to appear. And you must unify under one human approbation to unify your support and behave as humans under the laws and guidance of a mercy mission to Urantia. You're dying. That's the problem. As a final remark from Father, it's this. Please do not misunderstand. We are not here for mercy. We are here to correct. It's correction. It is not mercy. You don't deserve mercy. 

And finally, this to you Ron, you are one of the stern ones. Thank God. You know enough to set the records straight, but you do not do it for the simple reason that the Urantia Foundation and Fellowship cannot maintain discipline or structure without having current spiritual information available, and they refuse it categorically. You say fine. 

Ron Besser 
Our audience, our true audience, ladies and gentlemen, is not Urantia book readers. 

Universal Father
It's the regular uninformed population that will become not the readership, but the announcements of the proposed Missions to Urantia within months. Already the incarnations are beginning. There are 32 incarnated Melchizedeks as we speak. There will be 16 more. 

And I want you to understand please, I'm not yelling at you this audience. But please understand, your life could be under threat if you jabber too much. Keep it to yourself until we tell you it's safe to speak to. To speak to what? The intervention of Magisterial Sons into national governments, so that they may learn a wise way of governing. Urantia is in for big trouble. Its tectonic plates are not steady, it's too old. 

And finally, this. We're about to turn this back to you, Dominick. But before we do, please understand your loyalty and care for Ron is deeply appreciated by spirit. You've helped him tremendously. He is also seen to it that the property that eventually goes to the Magisterial Foundation, you become the heir of that property first, so that you can make an orderly transition of 2709 Sunset Lane and the Magisterial Foundation and its six subsidiaries entirely to the Melchizedeks, when they are ready to receive. I stand back for Mantutia, Planetary Prince. 

Mantutia Melchizedek.
I am Mantutia Melchizedek. I left the Urantia Foundation in the early 1940s to remind them that they are to receive the authority to present the fifth epochal revelation. I have never relented in seeing to it that they are maintained and that sufficient donations become available to distribute and print more of the fifth epochal revelation. Ron has taken, taken on the ability to reform. That's all he asked to do. But what's the first response? You're nobody. We don't talk to nobody. There is nothing to speak to. Ron, you are on your own. We do not listen. As a consequence, Michael Nebadon said to Ron, build a corporation. We will do epochal revelation through it. And if necessary, if necessary, we will transfer authority to you through the Magisterial Foundation, or whatever you choose to call it. They are deaf. They're corporations. They do not listen. 

Michael of Nebadon 
In finality, let it be known than, this is Michael of Nebadon. We decree that the authority of the Magisterial Foundation is not renounced, but you are going to be reduced in what work you do do. I will have a formal announcement to the Magisterial Foundation on May 12 of this year. I will have a formal announcement to the Urantia Foundation and the Brotherhood, as the Fellowship now, on May 5 2024. We have not yet determined in what manner

And finally this. I am Michael of Nebadon, Ron, and you shall live long enough to see to it that Margul is the next Son in charge. 

Ron Besser 
Oh, good grief.

Michael of Nebadon 
(laughing) Yes, Ron. 

Ron Besser
Well, well, Margot be alive yet. 

Michael of Nebadon
Yes, yes, he will. 

Ron Besser 
Well, that should please the Trinity. Thank you. 

The Trinity
I am also pleased to say, this is the Trinity, Ron. You are not an idiot, but you leaven these announcements so well, we are at comfort with what they say. Thank you, Ron. And Dominick, we now turn this back to you to conclude this Lightline. Go ahead, 
Dominick, you're on.

Dominick
All right. Thank you, Ron. I am muting you, just for noise. And thank you Machiventa, (Abraham) Manituba, Father. Mantutia, (Trinity) and Michael. All right, that concludes today's Lightline. Stay tuned for tomorrow. Lemuel, you're unmuted. Let's see. Let's try. How are you, how are we for tomorrow?

Lemuel
Yes, fine. Full steam ahead tomorrow.

Dominick
Excellent. Okay. Sorry, I muted you. Anyhow, that's today's Lightline. Thanks everyone for attending. We have 16 on the call and I know we have more than that listening. So all of you who are paired up and listening in at two or more, we appreciate you. And have a good day everybody.
 
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Lightline USA, on Tuesday. March 26, 2024, with Dominick, host. Our apologies for the delayed post.

Topics: 
  • opening announcement regarding Lightline transcripts
  • no available sovereign land to claim for the Missions
  • the five pillars of social engineering, Ministers of social engineering  
  • definitions of expectancy, anticipation, and preparation, correlating to pre Bestowal, Bestowal, Second Return, post Bestowal
  • question about Dominion’s relation to Mission policies
  • Ron Besser is the spokesman for the Magisterial Foundation
  • LIGHTLINES: Transcribing the Lightline continue, the beginning of all Lightline in the early 1990s, western transmitters have to align with the Magisterial Foundation for international outreach, Sunday Lightline is the focal point of the Lightline, all others are very important
  • the collision of a freighter with one of the supports of the Baltimore Bridge
  • the coming UAI conference is the last one for them
  • life threat to talk about the intervention of Magisterial Sons into national governments
Thank you for your interest. 

Link to the recording: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240326_110218





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General Discussion / Re: The Creator Son's Warning 28 March 2024
« on: March 28, 2024, 16:24:29 pm »
Thank you, Lemuel, for this post, I could not agree with you more. I am too terrified every time I hear it just cannot always complain about it. And I want you to know that I hope you are staying. I pray for life extension for both of you. 
I apologize for missing the Lightline, I was still having Tuesday because of the transcription and did not realize it until it was too late but listened to the recording. Thank you. It was very good to hear as always. God bless you. 

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1. 032424 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser. Other transmitter: Lemuel
2. Subjects:
  • Lightline calls are to be maintained, explanation of Lightline broadcast; only through Magisterial Foundation.
  • visible Mission and Jesus' Return is scheduled after May 12th, 2024; It must be preannounced in the morontial world first; structure up of the Magisterial Foundation; The Mission will at once announce peace on Urantia, people will reply with joy and fear to the major changes, stock market will plummet, millions will lose much money.
  • the Urantia Foundation needs to turn over the power to the Magisterial foundation, 6th Epochal Revelation.
  • Pope Benedict VIII concerned about Vatican being wormed, and their inability to hear in the spirit.
  • Dominick and Seven Gits will attend the UAI meeting next week, representing the Magisterial Foundation; Dominick must transition; Ron is a late Apostle; Arthura will attend to Dominick.
  • Plans to establish the Magisterial Foundation Library in Virginia; Edvard Casey offers his help.
  • Plans to rename the Holdings to Christ Foundation.
  • Dr. Sadler spoke about the early Urantia Foundation
  • Urantia Foundation inevitable transfer of authority to the Magisterial Foundation
  • Plans to repair Ron's body with the help of the Life Carriers
  • Preserving Ron’s legacy; this audio Lightline will be appended to that charter.
  • Commemorating Jesus’ resurrection; pray at Easter next Sunday.
  • Eternal Son speaks to Jesus’ position in Paradise, each local universe has a Jesus; 90,000 more will end time; 3 points of schedule of the Missions; The Urantia Foundation allowed to issue their resignation.  
  • Michael of Nebadon pray for the Mission and the people of Urantia.
3. Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Machiventa Melchizedek, Pope Benedict VIII, Saint Matthew, Arthura, Edgar Casey, Dr. Sadler, Michael of Paradise, Jesus of Paradise, Jesus Christ, Master Spirit Two, Eternal Son
4. Transcribed by: sonsofGod
5. Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240324_110122


Ron Besser  
Hello, everyone, today is the 24th of March, our Sunday Lightline. I'm Ron Besser, your host. Welcome.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon, Ron.

Ron Besser  
And we welcome you, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Go ahead, please.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. I do enjoy the protocol, Ron, it is very clean and nice. The truth of the matter is, we don't have a long communication today, primarily because the cabal is particularly vicious.

Ron Besser  
I've been fighting them pretty hard, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon  
And for that reason, Ron, I want you to understand that the entire matter today is not truncated. But we do have a rather short schedule. For reasons of our own, there are now 19 on this call, and thank you for your interest. The Internet is now using about, oh, I would say five of you on the Internet call. The rest of you are on the phone. Now, I want to have you understand this.

The last few days have been very difficult, not only for most of you, but for Ron as well. There is a good reason for the difficulty. We have got to get into Utantia, and to make our callsign visible to the rest of the world. To the people of the world, we will be seen as Jesus. To the readers and joiners on this Lightline call, we will be about five to ten minutes later with a real name and a transmission.

I want you to hold a Lightline on Tuesday. Dominick, with me in mind. We've got some big announcements coming for Tuesday. For Monday, we don't think Elise has a lot to say or do at that time. She is not aware that we are holding a Lightline today, simply because she forgot it's Sunday. In any case, I'm sure she will suddenly come to the attention that it is Sunday and that the Lightline is being held. And finally, this to all of you before I get into anything else verbally. That is that the entire matter of Lightline calls are to be maintained. Follow your schedule please. I will hold Lightlines on the schedule you're written up for. And finally this to you, Ron. The entire matter today is going to be taken up by other transmitters, because your breath is almost hollow and you are following a very difficult invitation this morning, which places you squarely on the opening day, this coming May.

As many of you know or remember, on the last Lightline that Ron was on we announced that probably May 12th would be the start of the visible Missions. That is not that far away. And we wish to remind you all that the date we set was May 12th. For reasons of your own please keep in mind, we operate all of this on New York time zone. That's the Atlantic coast of the United States. And finally, this to all of you who may be waiting for the final announcement, we've already made it. That was on Wednesday. And for those of you who cannot remember the time, it's always 2pm, New York time. We don't vary it.

And finally, this to the rest of you. There are several of you here who have never heard a Lightline. What a Lightline is, it's a direct communication from the Father, the Son, and the Spirit directly to the minds of those we trained to speak us directly. They broadcast the direct word on the telephone, and you're always welcome to listen. We use a specialized vocabulary, it's not biblical, it's epochal revelation. I am the Creator Son. I was Jesus. I indwell and was Jesus, and Jesus himself was the Son of Man. I am the part that was the Son of God. I speak through Ron, he has been trained to handle it.

And now to the rest of you who are used to these transmissions. The coming spiritual Mission to the United States first, and to the rest of the world a little later, we will come through a transmission not on your mass media anymore, but on these Lightlines. We consider it safer and easier to use. Now, usually at 2pm from… well, usually, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, these Lightlines are held at 2pm. Same place, same telephone number, and so forth. There are going to be Thursday and Friday Lightlines Ron, if you can handle it, we will advise you to take them on.

And finally, this to all of you who are listening either by the Internet or by other means. Please be advised that we are now going to broadcast only on the Lightlines through the Magisterial Foundation. And that is what you're listening to now, on the schedule at 2pm. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, occasionally Thursday, Friday and Saturday, when we call for them. We will make our major announcements regarding the Mission. The visible Mission will be in May, beginning May 12th, to remind you. And for that reason, Ron, you're going to be alive in spite of the fact that you think this is almost your last day, as awful as you feel. It will not improve much but somewhat. And finally, this to those of you who transmit during the weekday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, we are going to use you starting at 2pm and going a little less than an hour. There is not a lot of news to be held for the full hour at this moment. After May 12th, you will have your full hour and perhaps more.

And now this to all of you. The Lightline for today is not truncated. I am turning this over to Machiventa Melchizedek. They are the spiritual emergency Sons. The Melchizedek mentioned in the bible. Is the Melchizedek that speaks with Ron today. He was called the Sage of Salem. You will probably find him in the beginning of the Old Testament, known as the Sage of Salem.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa speaking now.

Ron Besser
We thank you, Michael, and welcome Machiventa. Please go ahead.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you, Ron. I am Machiventa Melchizedek. I am the Sage of Salem, and I spoke to Abraham on those blustery cold days, when I incarnated in what now is Palestine. In those days, it was called Judea. I showed up in the flesh and I addressed myself to Abraham of old. He welcomed me immediately and taught the tribes of Israel the One God.

For reasons of state Ron, we are calling you one of the tribes today.

Ron Besser
I feel Malta Flores. Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
You're welcome, Ron.

Ron Besser
The bloom it's all over me. Thank you, Machiventa. Go ahead, please.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you, Ron. The truth of the matter is, Ron is a transmitter with an invertebrate sense of humor, we cannot control. He is one of the most chatty and favorite of the transmitters because he simply cannot stop joking. We enjoy him, and for that reason we are quite happy to see him.

Now this. We are quite (help-em and) helpful to welcome you, Paul from Dallas, thank you for attending. And to the rest of you. There are now 25 on the call and that's a healthy quorum. For the rest of you, let me re-announce it. Our Missions are visible Missions. Spirit Missions will begin May 12th, 2024, and we will make announcements to begin with on this Lightline radio station, which is really a conference call. Use the same time, the same number, to listen to our announcements. We are not going to broadcast through others. And now this. I am Machiventa Melchizedek, I am the Sage of Salem. Here is Abraham, Abraham of old.

Ron Besser
Welcome Abraham. Please go ahead if you're ready.

Abraham
We are Ron, thank you. You are particularly fragrant today. We come into your area of personality circle, and find that it is not feeling well, but well enough to do a Lightline. You will get better today. And for reasons of state you say Thank God.

Ron Besser
It's awful Abraham right now.  

Abraham
Yeah, thank you. The truth of the matter is it hits your eyes. It gives you a headache. It aches your limbs, and you say well, let's get through this. But I want you to understand Ron, that you are the first transmitter ever to bow before us in the chair as you are transmitting, I have never seen that before. I do enjoy it. Yes I can, Ron.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Now this. The trial that the Creator Son must attend to is that there must be a pre-announcement in the morontial. The morontial worlds are where you go after you died on Urantia. Ron will attend the morontial worlds after he dies, probably later this year. For that reason, please be prepared to understand that those of you who have Adjuster contact will be sent to mansion world four. Mansion world four contains a Urantia book study group. They will welcome you. We we've added that to the itinerary, since those of you who attend here, mostly read the fifth epochal revelation. That is a 2,000 plus page of the highest revelation you will ever read, it's the fifth epochal revelation. Jesus is the fourth epochal revelation. Adam and Eve are the third and so on. I, Machiventa Melchizedek, I am the second epochal revelation as the Sage of Salem in 1978 BC. That was the year I met Abraham by your calendar.

And now this, Ron, I do enjoy your memory. You can remember those things from the fifth epochal revelation.

Ron Besser
Yes, Machiventa. If those would bother to read, I have it open for reading on the discussion forum, is a link at the top of the forum to read. There is a paper and you, your revelation to Abraham, well mentioned and written into it, as well as the life and times of Jesus from the spiritual archives. It's quite a read folks. 500 pages of a lot you never knew about Jesus. If that's all for me, Machiventa, please go ahead.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Yes it is, Ron.

Ron Besser
I think, I had something removed, but that's okay. Go ahead, please.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Yes, you did, and it’s this. Today is probably your last Lightline Ron, under the old circumstances of changes to your life system, as well as how much time you spend with a discussion forum, the Magisterial Foundation, and the other five or six foundations that group with it. We are going to use all of them, Ron.

Ron Besser
Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
For reasons of state, the Rayson Corporation is a nonprofit 501 c3. So is the Magisterial Foundation and all of the 501-s that you have accumulated as departments to operate all that we need to operate with. You have been so complete; we heartily need any visible or public addition to it. Thank you.

Ron Besser
We are grateful to join with you, Machiventa, and thank you for using them.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you, Ron.

Michael of Nebadon
Now this. This is Michael of Nebadon. I have prepared a speech today that I would like you, Lemuel, to take on if you're awake. Unmute him, Ron.

Ron Besser
Just a minute, Lemuel. You are now unmuted, Lemuel. Well. Would you pick Michael of Nebadon into the transmission, please, and proceed from what he requests? Go ahead, Lemuel.

Lemuel
Thank you, Ron. I am awake. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon
Yes. Thank you for picking me up. This, indeed, is Michael of Nebadon. And for those of you who are new to the Lightlines, and there are a couple of you here, you may be surprised to hear a different voice. This one at the moment is through Lemuel, but there are other transmitters as well that are used during Ron's Lightline.

Ron Besser
Lemuel, we are getting an echo. Place your phone slightly different if you would please.

Lemuel
Is it too loud or not loud enough, Ron?

Ron Besser
No, it's an echo. It's hollow.

Lemuel
Is it hollow now?

Ron Besser
Well, go ahead with what you've got. That's fine.

Lemuel
I've just got my mobile in my hand, I've got nothing else, Ron. from I don't have anything else.

Ron Besser
Right. Go ahead with what you've got.

Michael of Nebadon  
To continue, this is Michael of Nebadon, and I was about to say to some of you newcomers to the Lightlines that it is quite normal sometimes to give the voice of Ron a rest, by asking other transmitters to transmit. So, this is why at the moment, I'm speaking through Lemuel.

You are all fully aware that for many years, you are waiting (for) the Magisterial Mission and the Return of Jesus to appear on Urantia. These have been planned for many years now, and every time that we were ready to announce, at the very last moment something always happened to prevent us from doing that. And so, disappointment, frustration, and also the credibility that some of you have had have been totally lost over the years. Those of you who have sincerely desired to spread the good news about the Missions and the Return of Jesus. You have all had egg on your face and you have lost all credibility. Nevertheless, you are still here, and your loyalty is noted and very much appreciated.

Well, I can tell you now that we, you, do not have to wait much longer. These things have been spoken to before many times, yes of course. And you are probably so tired of hearing the same things. But I also would like to point out something to you, apart from the fact that I assure you know the latest news, what is the atrocities that have taken place in Moscow over the past 24 hours. The constant wars going on small or larger around the world for many years, there has not been a total peace on this planet of Urantia for many-many years. And so, to establish peace on Urantia globally will not be easy, but it will, add it must be established.

You have now been informed that there has been a change in that we now do not intend the first announcements to be on your mass media. That will not take place now. We have decided, for various reasons, not least of which of course is safety, to make our first announcements via the Lightlines. And so, during the next month of April, through the several Lightlines that will take place. These announcements will help to prepare people for the visible announcements taken place after the 12th of May. This year, the 12th of May 2024.

It is of course, something totally unforeseen and unprepared for by the vast majority of the world's population. And so, it will come as a tremendous shock and there will be tremendous unbelief, and there will be in many places, panic and fright, because the unknown is always frightful. It is only through knowledge that fear is dispelled. I would like to repeat that. It is only through knowledge that fear is dispelled. It will take time, but it will be done. And hopefully by the end of May and the beginning of June people throughout the world will have come to realize that it is something extremely important happening on this planet. Because by then peace will have to be established, it will have to be announced. The wars will end, and that of course in and of itself will be a tremendous relief, and a reason for a tremendous joy and thanksgiving. But at last peace has been declared. So, indeed, it is a tremendous amount to look forward to, but also in the beginning, there will be problems, yes.

There will be a tremendous change in the stock market. It will plummet. And there is a lot, many, many people (who) are going to lose a tremendous amount of money. And this in itself will cause tremendous problems personally, and there will be many people who will try to take their own lives. They will not be able to support these evident changes that would bring about in their lives. Well, there are many things that I could say, but now it's not the time and it is not the place. But I only would like to reaffirm what will soon take place and to encourage you, all of you here, stay the course. And please do not allow what is taking place in the world to put you off.

You have a saying, if you kind of stand the heat get out of the kitchen. So that is to say, turn your television off, if you do not want what you see, to affect you, so deeply. Turn inwards to your real self, those of you who are aware that you have within you. A Father fragment of God termed as your Thought Adjuster, and it is pure spirit of God, it is a fragment of God. Turn inwards to that and do not be perturbed by what you see outside. Keep your own counsel. Do not go spreading the news like perhaps you have done before. You have learned your lessons. But others of you to newcomers, you want to share this. But be very careful to whom you speak, because there are those who are not ready, and perhaps never will be ready for the truth. The truth means they will have to come to terms with the fact that they have, as you're saying, been barking up the wrong tree all lives by believing something and having faith in something that is simply not the case, and never has been. This of course will affect many, many millions of people especially in the institutionalized religions throughout the world. They think and have always thought that they have the truth. They do not, and they never have had the truth. So we shouldn't see in the very near future what the truth shows people, here on this planet finally. And where we all go from this moment on into a much brighter future than has ever been the case in the past.

This is Michael of Nebadon, and this is all I have to say at the moment. And bid you all good day. And thank you, Lemuel.

Lemuel
Thank you, Micheal. Thank you so much. Thank you. Well, I hope that was all right for you, Ron. I, I hope it was alright. I'll hand this back to you now, if I may.

Ron Besser
Thanks very much, Lemuel. Thank you, Michael, for stating it so clearly.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa Melchizedek, Ron. I now wish to speak a piece through you. You're sitting here listening to Lemuel, and you wondered if the major religions might get a heads up as well. The Vatican in particular, because of its size, is especially open to messaging. But the other Protestant religions around the world, the well-known ones, don't have such a distinct headquarters as the Catholic Church does. We will make no announcements; they will learn through the scuttlebutt.

Ron Besser
Well, thank you, I was interested and curious.

Pope Benedict VIII
This is Benedict the Eighth. The recently deceased Pope, who is now on Mansion World Three, Ron, in the Pope group.

Ron Besser
Well, welcome Benedict. Go ahead and speak as you wish.

Pope Benedict VIII
Thank you. I have asked permission to speak to the Vatican. They do not allow me to get through Ron. I am sorry to say that there is no special avenue allowed to be open to the Vatican, but you feel Ron, that they could help put a lid on things, particularly Central and South America. If they somehow knew and could warn that something like this is up.

Ron Besser
That is tricky, at best. And you fully understand that you just told me.

Pope Benedict VIII
Michael of Nebadon is here with the group, the Pope group. And he is speaking to them that they should manage to transmit to the laity as best they can. And that to warn you, Ron, they speak the Christian Bible and not the wording that Michael of Nebadon uses to announce to groups like you. For that reason, they may not address the Return of Christ, but they may address the change of the Apostles from Peter to Paul. That they are all soon to speak to the congregation and to the laity of the church and all other dioceses as it may happen to appear. I am Benedict the eighth.

Ron Besser
I'm most grateful, Benedict. Thank you for the evaluation.

Pope Benedict VIII
Thank you, Ron. We are always grateful to hear from you. Now this. I am Benedict the eighth. Ron and I have had a long going relationship, speaking to the epochal revelation. Ron does not press it or push it, but merely speaks. I have learned a great deal since my death, and boy, do I wish I was in the Vatican today. They have no way of being warned, Ron. Not from up here. And yes, you say I'm sorry. So am I. But those are the rules that are being enforced from the Pope group on the mansion worlds to the Vatican on Urantia. For the rest of you, stay back. Don't attempt to do it. Ron has long ago learned that they are too officious, and they press anything new away unless they want to know, and they haven't a clue. For that reason, then Ron, let us look at the following information from St. Matthew.

Saint Matthew
Thank you. I am St. Matthew. Greetings.

Ron Besser
Greetings, Matthew. Please take command as you wish.

Saint Matthew
Thank you, Ron. I love it. And this. We are now going to speak the truth to you, Ron, as you never heard it spoken.

Ron Besser
All right. I'm battered down. Thank you.

Saint Matthew
The truth of the matter is that the Magisterial Foundation is well reserved to handle many of the public announcements of the coming spiritual Mission to Urantia. Its one of our favorite ways now. It gets out so much better when we make a tape and it can be heard by the laity.

Second of all, you are pretty sure you're going to lose your life very soon. You are broken, not in your vitality, but in the resources of the mind which must always understand who is what and how it is to be produced. The cabal has attempted to muddle you. They do so once in a while, but not enough to keep you out of business and the ways that you must conduct it. Your details are right around your desk, you keep overlooking them.

Ron Besser
Well, I thank you. I couldn't seem to find them.

Saint Matthew
Thank you. Second of all, the usual visitations you receive are now put aside slightly in order that Dominick may begin his transition. He must transmit (transit). He must make the transitions or just walk off. It is too important for the Magisterial Foundation not to have a backup. As you are staying Ron, more than you know, and he is staying with you for the duration.
And finally, this to the rest of the Board of the Magisterial Foundation. Your obligation is to stay the course and make sure that Ron and all of the leaders on that board have the full appropriation of your support. We've got to find money, find donations, because it is expensive. This weekend, Dominick and Steven Gitz, both board members, are attending the Baltimore Maryland UAI conference for the Urantia Book discussions. They will begin on Thursday, this coming week, and end on Easter Sunday,

Ron Besser
The 29th, I believe, of March.

Saint Matthew
The truth of the matter is, Ron, that is correct.

Ron Besser
Good.

Saint Matthew
And thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser
Well, thank you, Sir.

Saint Matthew
This is Matthew. I am the Apostle Matthew. This: Your need for a verification of heart and soul, Ron, is not forthcoming. That is our choice not, but that is the choice of Michael, for some reason.

But what the Father has said to the apostles, Ron is a late apostle. He carries the heat, the fervor, the challenge, and the care that Michael up here, once more, in the flesh on your planet. Please make sure you understand that if Ron disappears, he will reappear for the Magisterial Foundation in some manner.

For Dominick, you must follow the course. No laying back, no becoming tired. Follow our instructions, please. Arthura will attend to you. Ron, Arthura is here now and wishes to dictate,

Ron Besser
Thank you, Matthew. And go ahead, Arthura. Thank you for attending.

Arthura
Most welcome to you too, Ron. I'm Arthura. I am hyper infinity. I live on the edge between hyper infinity and the infinity of the Master Universe. Yes, people there is such a thing. Ron knows more about it than anybody else and should attend this conference to talk about. However, it is especially bad right now. His transition must be successful, or he's not going to make it.

For our own reasons of state, Ron, we have our evidentiary remarks to the Father, to the Son, and to the Infinite Spirit. We've asked for you to be annealed and to prepare your way to remain as long as Michael may need you. I'm Arthura. Good day.

Ron Besser
We're most grateful, Arthura. Thank you for attending and speaking.

Arthura
I thank you; we thank you.

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael of Nebadon, Ron. That should get him out of there carefully.

Ron Besser
Well, he's a stranger on a picnic, Sir. We must be careful.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you. He dares not get lost.

Ron Besser
I understand hyper infinity is a long way.

Arthura
Yes, it is Ron. I'm Arthura, and I always enjoy the day to date. Good day.

Ron Besser
Thank you, Arthura. I enjoy it.

Michael of Nebadon
And now this. This is Michael of Nebadon with the final words for this Lightline. The trial that is approaching you, Ron, is the ability just to even, just stay awake for the next hour. You are being appropriated by the Paradise wizard of care that insists that you'll be falling asleep for the next hour or so. When you're done here, lay down. Dominick if you wish to come over entertain yourself with TV until he can get up. And finally this. You, Ron, are the most nascent being I have ever met in favor of these Missions.

Ron Besser
Yes. Hah. You can solve it with a cocktail party.

Michael of Nebadon
All right. (ha-ha) You idiot. Now this, I want you to understand that without the Magisterial Foundation this would have been difficult. But because you arranged it with six other departments as separate corporations, we can run them all with a different board of directors, including ourselves. That affords us huge abilities to inculcate not only the legal world but the corporate world with everything we ever wanted to do. And now it's made so easy, we cannot believe all we have to do is walk in and take the boards by storm.

You have advocated that this six-member board of directors, all humans, be having the chairmanship by Manituba Melchizedek, and Machiventa Melchizedek as his supervisor. You have also dedicated it to Rayson, the Magisterial Son, for he owns and walks in his own corporation, the Rayson Corporation and Rayson Electric.

For reasons of state, the one you call Raz is carefully archiving so that the library known as the Holding Corporation can begin to operate immediately with the materials of the fifth and the sixth epochal revelation on the shelves. For those of you who do not know about this, the library probably will be built in Virginia. They will…, it will not be built here in York. It will be built by the sterling appearance and buildings.

Ron Besser
I hope you have the memory, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
Hah, yes, (ha-ha-ha) Edgar Casey. We are going to build a library next to the Edgar Casey library. And he will host the library as well as help you the Magisterial Foundation, run your foundation in Virginia.

Ron Besser
Oh, that's wonderful. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you. Now this. Edgar Casey has something to say to all of you.

Edgar Casey
I'm Edgar Casey. I have my own platform in Virginia, as most of you know. I want the library built next to mine. That will place a huge reservoir of an epochal revelation at anyone who wishes to investigate the revelations and our help in putting them together. You are calculating.

Ron Besser
(ha-ha) Yes. I'm just looking at it at the two edifices and wondering how your foundation board is going to handle that.

Edgar Casey
I wasn't going to talk to it, but they will.

Ron Besser
Okay, they need a little instruction at least.

Edgar Casey
Fully, Ron, will send them your way.

Ron Besser
I am grateful, Edgar Casey, please continue.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you. What a nice insight. Now this. This is Machiventa Melchizedek, Ron. Remember, you have your own board.

Ron Besser
Oh, of course. But I was looking at the interface of both libraries on the same street side by side, and most curious how they would reserve each other.

Machiventa Melchizedek
I fully agree and it was just a side note.

Ron Besser
Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
When the time comes, Ron, we'll talk about it. You do love the work.

Ron Besser
Oh, I do. Yes.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Now this. The Magisterial Foundation will be called the Christ Foundation.

Ron Besser
Entirely appropriate.

Machiventa Melchizedek
I am not referring to the Magisterial Foundation itself, but we will form one of your corporations around it.

Ron Besser
That is just fine.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Perhaps re named the holding,

Ron Besser
I fully agree. I do like that.

Machiventa Melchizedek
And for those of you who cannot understand how Ron knows all about this, he decided in 2008 to do this. He had a memory gland inside him then, that remembered Monjoronson and Serara coming to speak to him in 2003 with a little poem while he sat at midnight in front of his computer, Hickory Dickory Dock, the mouse ran up the clock. Ron says, why in the world is that coming into my head? Monjoronson said to him, I am Serara. You are part of the Magisterial Missions. We invite you, Serara and I, to join with us now. He and his group did. They formed these corporations and now you are using them as members, as listeners, and as of the Board of the Magisterial Foundation.

I'm asking Ron to consider expanding the board, but that is a little bit ahead of things. What we must do in the following days and weeks ahead is to prepare the Urantia Foundation for an explicit report on what we wish to do. Yes, Ron. You say to me, “Isn't that with a visit either by Melchizedeks or others to a trustee meeting?” That is correct. Thank you for bringing it up, Ron.

Ron Besser
I know no more, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you. And neither do I. I am now quite sure Ron; you will have an opportunity to attend a trustee meeting when we hold it in York. We can command that. Furthermore, the Urantia Foundation is now may be bitterly aware, the sixth epochal revelation is through your auspices. We must make it apparent that the transfer of wealth is not from the Urantia Foundation to York. The Urantia Foundation must keep its own money. We're not asking that. But we must dissolve the archive that was the fifth and produce the sixth and it will be in York, under the Magisterial Foundation. And finally this. Here is Dr. William S. Sadler.

Ron Besser
Dr. Sadler, this is Ron. We are honored. Please take your place and speak with us please go ahead.

Dr. Sadler
Thank you, Ron. It is dear to hear proper protocol. I love it. I am Dr. William S. Sadler. My son Sadler Jr. is sitting with me, and I'm with Lena.

Ron Besser
Bless their hearts. They’re welcome.

Dr. Sadler
Thank you. We have transferred their salutations to you Ron.

Ron Besser
Thank you very much.

Dr. Sadler
And this. I never meant the Urantia Foundation to last more than what I would hope was a century. It is now nearly 70 years old and was not fully incorporated until 1953. The incorporation papers were destroyed when they cleaned up my office. The individual meant well, but she never understood where I kept things and why I kept them. She destroyed my diary. She destroyed the papers of incorporation. And now the only thing you have left are the articles that we use to start the Urantia Foundation, which are well known to all of you.

cabal
The following is a report from the cabal.

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael. Let them run, Ron.

Ron Besser
As you wish, Michael.

cabal
This is the cabal, Ron. You are not allowed to report that name. We are entirely in control. We do not permit any change, and we are making it an intercessory demand on you to travel to Chicago and refrain from speech until they dress you down.

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael of Nebadon. That individual is removed permanently. Furthermore, it is up to the Urantia Foundation to determine if they will go to York for the transfer of authority. They have the fifth epochal revelation. You have the sixth, soon to be published. And following that Ron today, get a little something to eat, have Dominick come over as soon as he wishes. And I want to discuss something between you and Dominick and myself that is lateral to the Urantia Foundation knowledge. We are going to make it clear that the Urantia Foundation has no move to make. If they do, they will be dissolved permanently. For the following information, let us let it be known also... This is Michael Ron.

Ron Besser
Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon
… that the entire matter of the Board of Directors of the Magisterial Foundation are under the auspices of Michael of Nebadon starting now, Melchizedeks, because I have to make a transfer. And I insist that Ron live long enough to listen and hear it along with Dominick present. Please be here today, Dominick. And following this, I'm going to take another five minutes. You and Edgar Casey are fine, Ron.

Ron Besser
Yes. I have nothing to say. Michael, regarding the Casey board. They turned their nose up at a message from Edgar himself and refused to comment. I don't know what that behavior portends, but it certainly isn't favorable to my care for that board. That is your board Edgar Casey and I respect you.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you. That fully determines what I was about to say. This is Michael. Edgar Casey, Ronald Besser, please withhold it until I'm done with this. Scoosy (ha-ha), you're welcome, Ron, (ha-ha) you’re scoosed.

Now this to the Urantia Foundation. You will have a trustee meeting on or about May 4th or 5th, it's your choice. It is also your choice whether to attend a York Board meeting May 10th. That is the formal transfer of the fifth epochal revelation from your authority to Ron's Magisterial Foundation. It's no longer Ron's, he sold it to the Melchizedeks for $1, and that the deed for the house and property of three acres is maintained to the Magisterial Foundation directly, Dominick. The attorney must understand that it becomes an office and a place for you to live, Dominick.

And finally, this. I am Michael of Nebadon, Ron. I'll be damned If you are going to die in the middle of all this. You feel it today, you're very weak. I am going to ask the Life Carriers to directly contact your liver and tell us what way they can do with it. For what reason do you smile, Ron?

Ron Besser
Well, I'm thinking of the implantation they made, and the serum they placed in the warm seas, and how it has grown up to the point that I am here. And wondering how in the world the Life Carriers can produce enough serum once more to start me up, at least for a few more years. It is just a kind of amused looking at what I would consider something of an irony to history.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you. And it is indeed, Ron. You are one of the few we have ever met Ron, that takes the Life Carriers into effect. You know, we care. You know, we want to work with you. But the law says we must be quiet. Dominick is to be there today when he can get there. And for further information, Ron, never eat pork before you go to bed. It kept you awake all night.

Ron Besser
It's sure did.

Michael of Nebadon
Anyhow, this. I want you to understand Ronald Besser that the entire issue that we must dedicate to is not your life, but to your legacy. What you have prepared is worthy of something in our book of prayer. And that is to understand that the entire matter of a human to enter the way you did is so rare, we have but three entries. And one is for Urantia and Abraham.

Ron Besser
Oh my goodness.

Michael of Nebadon
Yes. You are aware is quite an honor.

Ron Besser
It seems to me that is sitting with quite an honor roll. I'm so grateful. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you. This. This Lightline will be appended to that charter. No one has a tape of anybody else, but you Ron will be the first in the book to have a tape, so people can listen.

Michael of Paradise
And finally this to you Michael of Nebadon. I am Michael of Paradise. I am the first Creator Son, and I remain on Paradise. And I work in the areas of Havona, all seven circles. It is my appearance there from time to time on the special circle called four. That is not where the supreme destroyed himself. He destroyed himself on the third. There is a burned-out planet to see, as you pass by on the third you can only see it from a distance. But it is the planet the size of a small solar system. It is hollow, it is caved in in the middle. The death of the supreme is hallowed ground, not. We leave the damage so you can see it

Jesus from Paradise
I am Jesus, not from Urantia, but I am Jesus from Paradise. Every Creator Son, when he bestows himself belongs to the Sonship with the Creator Son. There are 1000s of Jesuses. The one for your planet, Jesus of Nazareth. That might be hard to take, but it is the truth. Today is March the 24th Sunday, 2024. This tape will be appended to the archive record. And for your voice to stay clear, we're going to give you a little energy.

Ron Besser
My diaphragm rose, and I felt my lungs expand. Thank you.

Jesus of Paradise
Now this. I am what you might call Jesus of Paradise. I have never spoken before, but I want to, to all of you, and to Urantia. That's Earth. Earth, you are about to receive Jesus again in the flesh. Don't touch! Your hands will go through him. He will walk and speak and broadcast, but always protected by a spiritual flank of powerful liaison officers. When he appeared after the tomb, Jesus of Nazareth was alive and well, and looked like himself and could speak. He was resurrected from the tomb by Archangel Ryan. Ron wrote a book called The Crown and several other words, where Archangel Ryan speaks to the resurrection, literally of awakening Jesus. Jesus fluttered his eyes and wondered where he was in the dark. And the light of the Archangel was enough for Jesus to stumble to the door, to the rock pressed against the empty hole into the rock tomb. When the Archangel pressed it aside, he walked outside at about 2am on Sunday morning.

There he found two ladies who waited on him when he walked Nazareth, and the other places of Israel to teach and lecture. There was a women’s core, the bible doesn't mention it, of 15 women who saw to it that they had food, water, and enough to eat to keep walking Judea and the lands around to speak and lecture, telling about the Father. His life, the life of Jesus, ended on the cross. And the Archangel Ryan arrived after his burial that's Sunday morning and commanded him to rise in the tomb. The book The Crown describes it beautifully. It's out of print. But now this. Ron, I'm asking you to reprint The Crown and write it more fully.

Ron Besser
I'll be glad to.

Jesus Christ
Thank you, Ron. And finally this to those who are listening. The end of this week, this coming Sunday is Easter. Pray, tell, when you attend your Easter greetings and your probably Easter meals, remember me, Jesus Christ. I am here. I'm walking among you invisibly. I will be seen probably a little before the middle of May 2024. Be joyous. Be caring. Be understanding. This is the last time Urantia has a chance to stay a planet.

Master Spirit Two
I am Master Spirit Two. I represent the Eternal Son to time. Thank you, Ron, for having us.

Ron Besser
We welcome you, this holy moment. Please go ahead.

Eternal Son
I am the Eternal Son directly now. We are about to close this Lightline, running quite late, but then this is a special occasion. There are 27 listening now and thank you for taking the time to stay with us. This is running long, but that's fine.

I am the Eternal Son. I have no name. The bestowal Son Jesus is the Son of mine. To those of you who do not know, every local universe has their Jesus. The Jesus that attended you is the Beloved Son of your Creator Son 611121. That's his serial number and in the order, he was born to the Creator Son, or rather to the Eternal Son and the Universal Father. We count each one and give them a serial number. Your Jesus is of the Creator Son 611121. Michael of Nebadon is the 611th 121st Creator Son. All before him in their own places, in galaxies far, far away from you, had their Jesus too by their different names. Jesus is the Bestowal Son to your planet to teach you about the Universal Father. He is 611121. And there are about 90,000 more to come and that will end time, but not before. The more than 90,000 to come are bestowed on their worlds and their local universes.

And now this to you, Ron. Stay affirmed. Do not worry, that you are having difficulty in keeping consciousness entirely. I have ordered the Life Carriers to your side. And you and Dominick are to discuss something very important this afternoon. Do not tarry, Dominick. And finally this. Elise is not so ill she cannot attend. She's forgotten it's Sunday.

Ron Besser
Another vacation, Eternal Son.

Eternal Son
Thank you (ha-ha), thank you. And this to you, Dominick. You're harried by all this work. Its soon ends. And finally, to the rest of you. Ron, Dominick, and the Board of Directors have worked now for over two years on all of this. And I am insisting that you live, Ron, to see it happen.

Ron Besser
Yes. …Yes. In any case, however, my Father wills, Eternal Son.

Eternal Son
Thank you. That is beautifully spoken. Now this. The last moment that we have on Lightline here is to append a small note, so all of you know status. The following schedule.

1. The appearance of Jesus is after May 12, 2024.
2. And announcement will proceed or precede the exact date to this board and to the discussion forum if you're in session. And third, this.
3. The entire matter must be considered fully done and ordered over upon the appearance of the Magisterial Sons and of other concerns.

We are aware of that noise, Ron, and it is not in your system. It's in hours.

Ron Besser
Oh, I'm glad it's yours.

Eternal Son
Thank you (hah). And finally this.

I am the Eternal Son. We congratulate Michael of Nebadon and Jesus for their work.
To you, Ron, and your board for their work.
And finally to the Urantia Foundation. Congratulations. You will be allowed to submit your resignation. If you do not, we will assume it is in place.
I am the Eternal Son, and I say good day.

Ron Besser
We thank you, Eternal Son. Very grateful for your words.
Yes, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael. Thank you. You remembered.

Ron Besser
Barely, but I did. Go ahead, please.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you. And this Ron, we are now going to close this Lightline, almost half an hour late. But you must understand everybody that this Lightline is not the last. We are intending the Sunday, the Monday, the Tuesday, and the Wednesday, continue. If we can obtain Thursday and Friday from the Western transmitters, we would welcome your Lightlines stand broadcast through this system. If you refuse, it's at your own risk. I am now Michael of Nebadon, and we conclude this with a prayer.

I am Michael of Nebadon. I pray to our Father in heaven. Let the peace of a world gone mad become normal again. This world is tired of war. The Muslims can't rest. The Christians are miserable. We pray that all of this may cease in a sudden move for peace by Russia, and a sudden move by peace for peace by the other belligerence. May there be a blessed silence over the world very soon. We pray Father, we ask for nothing more than a sequence of arrival of the Master Sons to Urantia, to the place of foreboding Israel. And that peace be suddenly obtained. We pray that this be our last spoken prayer by Jesus for all of you. God bless you, and good day.

Ron Besser
This is Ron. Thank you everyone. The Lightline is completed and thank you for attending. Bye-bye everybody.


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  • 031924 Audio Tape Tuesday Light Line USA; host: Dominick O.
  • Subjects: Comparison of the definitions with the philosophy, cosmology and science between mediumship practices and transmission practices of skilled-knowledgeable practitioners; topics expounded on impact of variable and competing communications and spirit-governance, namely the rebellion and the contentions of the rebel manifesto. How that impacts the understanding of soul.
  • Speakers: Machiventa Melchizedek, and Arthura
  • Transcribed by: sonsofGod
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240319_110050


Dominick  
All right, welcome to Tuesday Lightline, everybody. There's eight of us on the call and as we hear little chimes coming in, those are more callers., a little late to the show. We have had a week hiatus, and we resumed with Sunday's Lightline, and I'm broadcasting over a microphone, and I am live on the internet. And so those participating, if by normal internet meeting using the link, are welcome to do that way, but today, we have everyone calling in and those numbers are on Fatherslightline.com and forum.serara.org. So let's begin.

Alright, so as usual prayer, we do acknowledge you and pray and occasionally worship you, Father, and Michael. And we hope for a good, clean and clear Lightline today. Is there anyone who wants to speak to the group, act as emcee, come on in. Is there an itinerary or agenda, we can hear any news? Anyone?

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Welcome to the group, this is Machiventa answering the call. We have an unusual Lightline, because we have an unusual circumstance that we've been declaring over the past several weeks to the point where we took a whole week off in the hopes of reorganizing ourselves. Which is the right and proper thing to do once in a while when the tread wears thin.

To that effect, we are trying new things. We're open to new directions, and like some lessons have said before there are what appears to be wild deviations from trajectories that we anticipated, if not announced prior that get changed and altered. Nonetheless, we assure you that Missions are proceeding and that your faith is not to be adjusted in the slightest, despite your lack of human participation. That being said, these Lightlines, and epochal and periodic revelations, through our various distribution channels, are not to be associated with the mediumship of channeling. We mean channels as different outlets of news distribution throughout the planet, whether that be through the angelic, and midwayer, and finaliter, and various Salvington and planetary government organizations that do their work behind the scenes from your perceptions. But that these Lightlines are indeed your chance to not only be informed and passively listen, but to those willing to ask the question. There's a possibility your question is relevant and deserves an answer. Here is Arthura.

Dominick  
Thank you Machiventa, and welcome Arthura.

Arthura  
Let's step right in. We touched on the subject of mediumship, which I will seize upon immediately. The Magisterial Foundation and its subsidiaries have been running as a nonprofit for years now. And they have been subsidizing you could say, or sponsoring these Lightlines to the effect, and chagrin of those in custodianship of the Fifth Epochal Revelation, where you could say that there was a rift between those who intend to take action, beyond knowledge and prayer and worship, and group socialization and service, and business of education. This has morphed into a gatekeeping and certification process, and the simple truth is, Revelation does not be quizzed a gatekeeping of the actions and response that those experience, when they encounter religious science and philosophical attributions admixed with Revelation to innovate and modify the knowledge base ,and spur action in a real environment, which is governed in a planet. [Transcription software jumbled last sentence]. Your little lives are governed by your self-contained mind and egos and personalities and bodies. And then you conglomerated into families, tribes, nations and nation states, and you have barely scratched the surface of planetary effect. Nonetheless, the planet is so small now, thanks to technology and population on most habitable square inch of land that globalism is the default now, but not a well-oiled governance.

There are tremendous growing pains at hand. Now, who wants to hear about that? No one. So, before going off into that, we simply circle you back by discussing today's main topic, which could go quite lengthy. I've gone before on these types of subjects, and we've gone over [time]. So, this may turn into a multi part presentation depending on how it goes. These Lightlines are a program, just unrecognized and organized to the effect that everyone who participates understands it coherently. Therefore, shall we go, shall we say, line by line and see where I can help uncover the distinctions and similarities between what was mediumship in the past and present, and what will constitute Transmission in the future. We uncover the following and simply bear with me.
All right, read it.

Dominick reads:
Okay, this is Dominick, Arthura is at my side. And we have in our hands, a course you could say, a module course, on how to uncover your greatest mediumship skills with, shall we say, Jane Doe.


"Jane Doe's wisdom, meditations. and practices - (I'm reading this) - including opportunities to have your human energy field upgraded by spirit each week, so, you can embody your highest self at every reading.
If you're called to mediumship, what's the greatest realization you can come to in this lifetime? It's the powerful truth that you are not merely human, says Jane Doe, mystic medium, and former [very high person in authority not to be named (occupation not named)]. Instead, you're a soul temporarily in a human body,


close quote and the reading that paragraph.

Arthura
We'd like to call out the word, the word called. This is Arthura now, commenting on this paragraph with the transmitter. We highlight the word 'called', the opening, if you are called to mediumship. This could be multiple pulls. There is the Revelation and probably traditions in past knowledge base of what is experienced as "the call." We define this as two things, there is a Spiritual Gravity of the universe, pulling you towards the Divine and Existential Deity, which we will make a distinction later. That Source is not just a Force, it is Divinity-Deity with Personality. And that the second aspect of the calling could be quite personal, and we will touch upon that later too. We continue with the reading of the program.

Dominick reads:
Quote:
Through the power of mediumship your soul has constant access to guidance from beings in the spirit realm, who have seen much more than you in your human body could ever imagine. Including your departed loved ones, your ancestors, ancestors of the people you were in past incarnations, and guides in the form of pets, archangels, masters, and beings from other realms.


Those who possess what Jane Doe calls mediumship excellence brings a combination of artistry and deep inner knowing that transcends what we might call normal human interactions, conversation and skills, because they move through the world as souls temporarily in human body, and they live and work from that truth every day.
Close quote.

Arthura  
We, this is now Arthura. There is a distinction in these Lightlines that will be very distinct and there will be similarities. This is not to demean or attack the program, but that we will make very clear distinction on what is similar and worthy of retaining. Because the human experience of communications is flawed and imperfect. And you have your traditions. And We have what will be the new way of experiencing these types of communications.

But that there are, often other reasons, for the experience, that a human perceives themselves speaking to our ancestors; or to the perceived fact or truth, but not necessarily, I'm saying as Arthura, is the case of past incarnations. Or the "fact" that pets are literally talking to you, and so on. And yet archangels and ascended masters are somewhat, say, factual and truthful, but they may have different applications in context to the future of transmissions. And certainly, the cosmologies, the religious knowledge base that one enters into affects this. But that there is a subtle case that will emerge through this exercise that makes these distinctions necessary and worthy of examination.

Mostly because, there will be an, hopefully, observation, that we make the contention, that the pragmatized packaging of selling mediumship is a for profit exercise, and Lightlines are a nonprofit exercise. Likewise, the cosmology of the soul has a subtle misdirection when we take the Governance of a Planet or System into account. Where mediumship is borderline fetish, and Lightlines are not borderline, but we shall we say, Governance. There will be a distinction between what is being accessed in a mediumship and what is being accessed in a Lightline.


Namely, that mediumship never quite declares what you are contacting. It appeals to human desire to speak to ancestors, anthropomorphizes the animal kingdom, and obfuscates the taxonomy and hierarchy, meaning the organization and structure of the Personality existence in the Universe. What constitutes the Trinity of Beings (And Deity), and those that the Infinite Spirit creates, and those that the Eternal Son creates. Namely, the Sons of God are beings of an Order that you belong to. And yet mediumship constantly espouses communication between angels (beings of the Infinite Spirit Order), and Lightlines are predominantly communication between Sons. That does not preclude archangels and angels being able and permitted to join when necessary. You just ought to know this distinction, which is clearly and fairly easy to understand now. So, let's continue with what they're reading. We continue.

Dominick reads  
Quote:
You, you've manifested mediumship excellence, when you shift your identity from that of a separate human to the interdependent expression of the one true Power, that's a capital P, that you truly are. Now, Jane Doe, one of the world's most respected evidential mediumship teacher and beloved member of the XYZ network, faculty, can be your mentor each week, as she guides you to cultivate your own mediumship excellence.


Join Jane Doe for a brand new 10-week course and access your most potent mediumship abilities with her wisdom, teachings, meditation and guided exercise. You will have a chance for spirit to enhance your human energy field with real time in the moment, guidance from Jane in every module, so you can embody mediumship excellence as you impact lives on both sides of the veil.

Arthura  
We close the quote for now, this is Arthura, together with the transmitter.
The beginnings and distinctions I hope are becoming clear in your mind, as the mediumship associated with the verb of channeling, begins to embody that of your communicator from the other side of the veil. There is a quasi-physical embodiment. And the mind of the channeler medium literally goes into altered, you could say these are not like abnormal, but altered brain states, that puts you in intentional brain wave status that would make you more effective in the mediumship. Notice I say effective, but it's not necessarily wrong, because that's the method that was employed in the past.

I simply make the distinction that you should be aware, and beware, of course, that those who delve into the politics of religion, or once you become an ism, or a religion, or a social group, that's frankly, propagandized by the State in the past, used for financial gain by the medium. Sometimes this is ethical and is done because, if a service is performed, and time is involved in the preparation, and a service is given, then is there a cost of operations that needs to be re-compensated. However, in modern day times, to shift this into an Influencer-lifestyle, you can contend, it is a for-profit motivation, and [that] cannot be sustained. Let's continue the reading.

Dominick  
Bear with me folks, I tend to close my eyes when I transmit and now I'm reading, to figure out where I am. Okay, we continue.

(reads) Quote:
Jane Doe will bring in more research about the brain's role in mediumship, than she has ever done before. You will learn about the brain's filters, and how to bypass them through training and meditation.
Close quote.


Arthura
Just notice that it is quite acceptable to now incorporate what is known in science into these types of practices. In that you should be fully astute and attuned to how the brain works and there is plenty of information now. And you do benefit from incorporating the research of others. Just be careful as how you present it as your own, and always accredit where you are getting that information from, and how you're presenting yourself as qualified.
We continue,


Dominick reads
Quote:
Each week, you will strengthen the muscles of your highest self, just as you exercise your physical muscles at the gym. With Jane's guided practices that invite you to sit in your higher energy so it becomes second nature, Jane will explain how it's essential to practice consistently and to devote time to silence, and to experience feeling and sitting in your power, building it and embodying it, so that you can better allow spirit to come through.

Arthura  
We close the quote, and this is Arthura.
One thing to note, what is good and true, is the need for consistency, persistence, and a discipline in your earnestness. We have tried to run a haphazard effect once in a while in the learning how to transmit. Workshops if you will, or a call to... like is presented in the beginning, are you called to be a transmitter? And then what we have heard from things like the Teaching Mission is also the benefits of devoting consistency a specific time, and some silence, which is basically this practice of attunement. It is not necessarily a mind wave or an altered state when we make these distinctions later on, the differences between transmitting and mediumship which is also known as channeling. But these words begin to differ from Lightlines. So, if you're new to Lightlines and you're new to this stuff, you have heard, or are used to all these... well, we shall just call them jargon words called Higher Self, and Power, and Spirit, frankly, that used in this context, has from Our perspective of Spirit, very little definition. And when you come into a Lightline, you have a lexicon of a volume of work that introduces Revelation, and that means a new vocabulary, a revelation of a clarification of your higher self, and or soul. And what begins to form is a subtle awareness that there are differences that, perhaps, are not just superficial evolution. That perhaps Spirit has a little bit of a divide to it. That bleeds through in its communications, and that not only are there different factions and territories, and jurisdictions, and units dedicated to different functions or even or information. And you get the idea that you can't just throw a word salad at this stuff and sell a practice of ancestor worship and celebrity communication. You eventually need to get to work because of all the bad things that are going on in the world in the real time. Emergencies that are happening.

This is Arthura continuing.
Mediumship will not take you into the new age. Transmission will. Transmission is sponsored by the Sons of God, and the angels work for them. Thank you. We continue.

Dominick  
All right, I got pushed back, Arthura. You can go, go ahead.

Arthura  
All right, we continue with the quote of the program.

Dominick reads  
Quote:
You will learn that uniquely gifted practitioners who exemplify mediumship excellence are highly trained and skilled. Yet what truly sets them apart is the fully embodied energy they bring to the readings. Jane will guide you to follow your own path to your highest self and embody more of the beautiful light that's already within you, so you can manifest mediumship excellence, and impact lives in both, the physical world and the spirit realm.

Arthura  
This is Arthura, and that concluded the opening blurb of this coursework offering mediumship excellence. So, the words, higher energy, Higher Self, sitting in power, and fully embodied energy, we have covered. You see that these words have some meaning but eventually get funneled into soul communication, where the soul takes on too much meaning and definition. Whereas we, at Lightines, parse this out, in that the soul we clearly can define, and (in contrast) that the mediumship definition of the soul takes on way too much, in terms of what it is doing and what it is capable of doing. That doesn't mean that it is completely wrong, and we aim to uphold the truths that are said when it does come to the soul.

And now we continue with reading of the program. The font if you are reading this, shifts, and so this produces a shift in focus for the reader. These are indeed sales techniques also that are appreciated by this transmitter, but they are used to change your focus. And in doing so, you are more susceptible to the words that continue, and we do continue.

Dominick reads  
Quote:
Experience what's possible for you as a medium when you harness the power of the greater good, and understand that you are limitless and an eternal work in progress, because Source, with a capital S, is always adding beautiful touches to your innate magnificence. Bring your Higher Self which is part of an even greater self that's connected to a dynamic flow of lifeforce energy to each reading.

Arthura  
We close the quote there. By now you should have a base...

Dominick  
This is Arthura speaking, go ahead.

Arthura  
This is Arthura. By now you should detect what I have said in the preface leading up to a paragraph like these two, just were. Now, if you've seen the parodies of the phrase, the greater good, you could easily put a hood on yourself and a flashlight to your mouth and chant, the greater good. And notice how the word salad just continues with Source and a cosmology assumption is bled through with your innate magnificence, and that your Higher Self which again is either undefined or will be wholly defined as your soul, is linked to a dynamic flow of lifeforce.

We simply point this out that if you are adept at the Lucifer manifesto, you will detect the contentions therein. That's all we have to say at this point. This is to...

Dominick  
Warn you? Is it warn you?

Arthura  
Fine, use the word. Yes, this is to warn you that these words are an indication of the teaching of the Lucifer doctrine, which could be benign, we interpreted as a knowledge base of the world at its best. In other words, humans throughout time have always sought knowledge, and that knowledge was literally taught or set up in certain parts of the world with definite factions, who taught this and so it is a natural part of both factual observation of the universe and a mysticism of a spirit practice that is rooted in rebellion from the source, which the rebels bless me in that they will not name they ...will not name the Source of God the Father, because they deny its existence, and therefore the soul must absorb this reality of the Father. That the Sons are uphold and declare as part of your higher self is indeed the deity fragment, which is your source of divinity that we should touch upon later. But this is where lLightlines certainly diverge from mediumship, and that will just bring up the subject.


Now, the soul in mediumship, as I just outlined, must take on the additional burden of the divine and deity. I have provided you a motive and source as to why this is true, and we bring you these Lightlines, so that you can understand not only what's different. But what will be demanded in the future to be known, and eventually broadcast, that all mediumship will cease once we get the circuits under control from the rebels, who either are in full rebellion or in insurrection to Planetary Government. Meaning they (insurrectionists) think they are part of planetary government, but do things their way and not under proper jurisdiction. That we shall define as insurrection. And then there is the remnant of (a) Rebellion, which is this blasphemy and literal rebellion against the Son. Who, let's just say to plant a seed, was the model to a universe. Not just your planet, but a model of human living in divine destiny of the human being modeled as Jesus by the Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon, as a bestowal planet here.

Let's continue. Well, not before we shall also say that it is not just the soul that takes on more of the divine and deity status, but the thing labeled as lifeforce or capital S Source, or capital P Power, these things take on a lack of personality. And we only point this out because the Lucifer manifesto declares that your personality is immortal and inherent, and by rebelling against the Father, that it must, in some respects, start doing a lot of mental gymnastics, and sophistries to solve the conundrum of Personality. Because the Father, the Universal Father, is the bestower of a few of these important things such as Personality, Free Will - when it's used, it (free will) doesn't mean everything you're doing is free will, over time. And the Father is also the bestower of something that the human being is capable of containing in their lifetime that works in partnership with the soul.  So we begin, we'll just continue.

Dominick reads  
Quote:
Boost your mediumship skills by becoming more aware of your deepest motives and intentions. Become a clear channel for spirit by transforming your brain's filtering system. Learn to follow your first instinct with confidence during your readings. connect with the higher realms more effectively by embracing gratitude. Embrace imperfection in your readings and in life, to more easily connect with those across the veil.


Communicate with the precision in your readings and become a greater conduit for spirit, using the power of Divine Love. Improve your work as a medium with assistance from your friends from the spirit world. Turn your energy field into antenna that amplifies your connections across the veil, the light and being a work in progress as you look forward to limitless chances for growth in your mediumship.
Close quote.

Arthura  
Now, that's just the opening blurb, we're at 45 minutes after, and we would have a lot more in depth to cover as we relate to these things, but let's just go and close this first session out with a few comments to these last bullets.

So, becoming a clear channel for Spirit, in this case, is different from what a Lightline constitutes or says, clear channel. Becoming a clear-channel in this context of the statement is becoming a better medium, a better channeler for spirit to transform. Whereas, when a Lightline hosts asks or needs to clarify, "is there a clear channel?" they are invoking the response from spirit that the circuits of communication sponsored by the Universal Father, and namely the... well, let's just say for better understanding, sponsored by our Lord, meaning your Lord, Christ. But that's our Christ is this Bestowal Son, Michael of Nebadon who you will hear, and whose many titles involve his titular name, Michael of Nebadon, as a Creator Son of Paradise origin, but he is your Creator. And then that, clear-channel is either clear or it's being interfered with by the insurrectionists or rebels. And so, this is why we get to this moment, because if we did not have all this preface before, you wouldn't understand the distinction I'm just making now between what's a clear channel for medium or channeler, and what's a clear channel for a transmitter.

So, we'll just continue. When you learn to follow your first instinct with confidence during the readings, this remains true when you're transmitting as well, there's nothing wrong with that statement. 


Moving on, if you're connecting to the higher realms more effectively by embracing gratitude, we make the distinction that gratitude is jargon when packaged as a mediumship practice. This doesn't mean at all that gratitude is not worthy in the human development and day-to-day benefits of incorporating such an attitude in everything you do. But that a Lightline takes gratitude even a bit step further in that, and you participants who join live are also part of this, as well as those who might be participating in this course with the channeler so to speak, in this package that we're talking about or reading from. And that you are collectively making an energetic field, but that there is also some prayer and worship (involved) 


Now that we've made some distinction on who you are communicating with. That's all, we're making a clear distinction who you're communicating with in these Lightlines.

So, we continue. The phrase embrace imperfection in your readings, to more easily connect across the veil. This is what a workshop is indeed beneficial for, but also your practice and consistency that there is always an imperfection to it, and you will learn only by doing. In that sense, be brave enough to acquire a skill by doing it. Do not be a ..., we say this with all due respect but also to cajole you, do not be a coward by merely being an authority of knowledge. So those of you who would wield that authority of knowledge, we invoke the knowledge of the spirit of courage, when we say, don't be a coward, invoke the courage to develop the skill and know that it will be imperfect. We continue.

Dominick reads  
Communicate with precision in your readings to become a greater conduit for spirit, using the power of divine love.

Arthura  
Well, we simply say that there is nothing untruthful about this statement, that it delves down into jargon and so, how useful will this ultimately be? It certainly is useful for selling a product but is not useful for creative organization to civilizational problems. We'll just leave it at that. We have three statements left and then we will conclude.

Dominick reads  
And prove your work as a medium with assistance from your friends from the spirit world.

Arthura  
As we say there is nothing unfactual about that statement. It has gone on in the past, and will continue as we - and I speak as this representative from the spirit veil -, as we phase it out. Because we will do, we will have greater and greater definition to the point of an incarnation in your faith that traditionally this planet, those ape wild over, that it could happen, because it challenges your reality, and challenges ecclesiastical and state authority. Not to mention your notion of reality comes existentially crashing in your faith. The next statement.

Dominick reads  
Turn your energy field into an antenna that amplifies your connections across the veil.

Arthura  
Nothing unfactual about that statement either. You will understand though, how this

Dominick  
Excuse me. This is Dominick. I realize there might be fiddling in with the papers, I apologize. Go ahead, Arthura.

Arthura  
You will understand how this is true, becoming an antenna for transmission and reception. There is a lot involved, that would be spoken to in both materials and in what is known as mediumship. But that there is a clear brain consciousness when you are transmitting and that mediumship frankly detracts from this antenna. This statement here, "become an antenna for mediumship," and that's where there will be pitfalls in the application of turning a mediumship into something practical in the world, as opposed to a revenue stream serving the spiritual fetishes of human beings. And lastly, the last sentence,

Dominick reads  
Delight in being a work in progress, as you look forward to limitless chances for growth in your mediumship.

Arthura  
Again, this is not untruthful for the transmission host, who are a transmitter, and that you will reap even more benefits through the relationship with us, and the risk though is the initial resistance of your fellow man.



Well, we have quite a lot more to go through if we were to continue reading through this program. However, we want to close out today's Lightline by just making a small comparison that this course here is offered over a 10-week module that charges roughly $1,000. Nothing wrong with that. We just want to have you compare the value, and that this module offers a live session, much like this what is going on right now, that you could participate with this host via video, but most of you prefer to call in and just be known by your voices. But that this module also not only offers that, but it offers the live recording of the events. So if you didn't attend live, you can still attend if you've paid, no problem with that. But that it also entails add more value, you have access to the audio recording, and you have access to the transcript. Now these are normal, voluntary things in most cases with the costs that are provided by Lightlines by the Magisterial Foundation at no cost, and are propped up by its current donations amongst those who have participated for years, and we thank them. And this does not mean that we have a Foundation, you could say, don't need the money. But are we justified in perhaps packaging this at a modest cost? Who knows? Just know that these things are being packaged and sold out in the world to a much larger audience.

And lastly, we end the day by clarifying some of the jargon we've railed upon. And that we've talked a little bit about what the soul in the mediumship practice has to take on. Whereas on the transmitter, we have given you this context of rebellion that denies the divinity and deity that is within you, that is contributing with you to create a soul. So, in that effect, the channeler says that you are a soul and that is primarily what you are, whereas the Lightline host or the cosmology or you know the definition of what Lightline are using is that your soul is a co created vehicle that is your afterlife, you are building it with your personality that is you, together with your God fragment that is intimately within you and does seek to merge. Eventually you do, this is where it all gets confusing because eventually your destiny is emergence with all of these aspects of soul, personality, and deity.

But that there is a difference in the messaging, sometimes benign and sometimes not so benign, because of competition that ultimately you can say in your head, well, these are just archetypes, or mythologies, or different traditions. And yet the world goes to war, and is divided over these things. And so, eventually this must end one way or the other, and these Lightlines are here at it, and wisely and beneficially, and have all the pain that you are suffering not be for naught. And so we conclude with a definition of the higher self. Because what you will hear from even the most knowledgeable students of the revelation about God is that they make, you could say supreme decisions, that they consulted with their higher self, and that the higher self sanctions their decision. You get this when you make very important decisions in your lives, which are not always easy, some are very painful.

And so, when you do consult the higher self, you are not directly in communication, you are not directly in communication with your source of God within you. That more likely is the higher self always in deference to your will. And therefore, the higher self, If you think where you define that as your Thought Adjuster, or your God fragment, or your divinity source, what have you. If you think you consulted your higher self, understand that your inner God because it defers to will will sanction your minds justifications. sanction is defined here as official permission. So your thought of just your will sanction whatever you justify in your mind as a final decision. It doesn't mean it necessarily condones just that it, it must give itself, it gives itself official permission because of your will. And so whatever you justify in your mind is given official permission, but it is not necessarily the will of God. And so, just don't make that mistake in claiming that your decisions are justified by God. Because your God is a ceding to your will, it agrees to your request or demand to be a party of whatever you have decided.

And we conclude, and back to you, Machiventa, and thank you This is Arthura, back to you, Machiventa.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
We close this out and we encourage those to ask questions. You can go to forum.serara.org where you can ask these questions. If you must join the forum and find it difficult, you can contact the administrator directly whose email we have given out in the past. It is aronolac@comcast.net A R O N O L A C@comcast.net. Otherwise, the things like forums today are under constant peril and attack. And this is why it's almost useless to open the door for joining, because it is under, frankly, automated attack from around the world from nefarious means. That's called spam. But it's getting much worse and much more prolific. So instead, you hopefully hear it from this content and you know how to join now. We thank you all for listening, and we wish you all a good day.

Dominick  
Well, thank you, Machiventa and thank you, Arthura. And thank you all those who worked on behalf of this Lightline. More to come. All right, good day.

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  • 030624 Audio Tape Light Line; host: Lemuel; other transmitter: Ron Besser;
  • Subjects: Life on normal planets do not produce such experienced humans than on Urantia; Arthura explains space travel the fastest way, speed of light is likened to snail mail; Mission progression, Magisterial Foundation goals and future, many ongoing topics; Ron Besser's recognition for his accomplishments; Pope Benedict VIII is the pontiff now on the mansion words over about 83 Popes who passed; electric cars are coming soon; Jesus is coming very soon; the Chronicles of Jesus' return.  
  • Speakers: Amadon, Arthura, Michael of Nebadon, Machiventa Melchizedek, Pope Benedict VIII, Rayson, Magisterial Son, and Christ Michael
  • Transcribed By: sonsofGod
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240306_110215

Lemuel
Hello, everyone. Good afternoon, good evening wherever you are. Welcome to this Wednesday Lightline, the 6th of March, 2024. I am Lemuel, your host, and we are at the moment have 12 callers. Someone else has just popped in, who is that? Just a number, double two, six, eight. Well, welcome to you. All right. Well, let us see if we have someone here who will act as our MC for this Wednesday Lightline. (cough) Excuse me.

Amadon
Yes, this is Amadon, Lemuel.

Lemuel
Oh, welcome, Amadon. You're very welcome. Thank you for coming.

Amadon
It's good to be here always, Lemuel. I enjoy your Lightlines. Yes, this is…

Lemuel
Amadon, if you don't mind, can I ask a question?

Amadon
Yes, of course.

Lemuel
We've had Lightlines now for I don't know exactly maybe six or … maybe six years. And all sorts of things that happened, of course, over these last six years, but I want to ask you that there are many subjects that are never mentioned, never talked about. And perhaps I can just mention a few of them, and invite you to comment, if I may, on the reason why they are never spoken to. For example. One of the things that are uppermost in my mind is the fact that we have been visited, when I say we, I mean, people here on Urantia, visited by aliens or extraterrestrials - whatever you want to call them -, other civilizations, for 1000s upon 1000s of years. And they had left their mark here on the earth, the aborigines have left the marks and drawings on the walls of caves, et cetera, et cetera. And there are countless pyramids in places on the five continents of the earth, all orientated in a certain way, and from where that the people get the information of the technique to construct such wonderful pyramids. So this is one thing.

Another thing uppermost in my mind recently has been the defense systems that are obviously, well, it must be in place. And that is to say, the defense system for ... for the system of Satania, and four different sections, the minor sections or the major sections, I'm assuming that there are defense systems put in place. And we have ... you have tremendous galactic spacecraft that are never spoken to. And I'm sure that not just myself, but many of us would be most interested to hear something about ... about that.

And of course, the ... Well we all know that there's a tremendous amount of cover up with all governments of the world, but I'm thinking specifically of the government of United States since the time of Roswell in New Mexico, and we all know what took place there. But there is so much cover up thinking that, you know, the people are stupid, they will never understand or whatever it is.
I can't understand the reason no one today in their right mind thinks that we are the only inhabited planet in the whole of the cosmos. Perhaps that is still what the churches want us to believe but come on. So, if you don't … sorry, Amadon, if you don't mind I have to ask you these things. And please, I invite you if you, if you would like to comment on that, please. Thank you.

Amadon
Well, oh, Lemuel. Yes, of course. You are right. There are so many things that in fact we could talk about. And whilst this is, it is true to say that in fact there is no subject that is taboo really, but there are certain subjects that you would term as a very hot potato and, and therefore, it is best not to, you know, to go there. But also I must say that, you know, this is a discussion forum, and ever since then, you know the Teaching Mission way back in the 90s of the last century, the whole intention of the mission was to teach spiritual truths that have been denied you, with contact that is to say, as you know, for many 1000s of years because of the rebellion.

And so, to come up to date now, with what has developed over the years, that is to say, what Ron has done to develop what is now termed as Lightlines, and for us to view transmitters to become, in fact, Voice of God is such a wonderful thing. But it also must be said that it would be really nonproductive, as in terms of spiritual reasons, for some of the subjects that you are aware of that are not spoken to, to be spoken to. But I would like to repeat, there's no taboo subject. It's just that was some of yours too hot to handle, so to speak. But yeah, there's so many of these are simply nonproductive at this point in time, not necessary. I hope you can accept my answer.

And also, especially, you all know, what is taking place over the past ... what is it now, three or four years. And in fact the situation on Urantia, not only was it terribly difficult before, but even now, after what just taken place with the supreme, and the necessity for Father to inaugurate a New Universe Age. It has, the situation has become so tremendously complicated, to try to come to terms with the need of a Mission. And, again, to be visited with the Material Sons, Adam and Eve, and of course, the Second Return of Jesus. All these things coming together at the same time, or being considered at the same time, is really a nightmare. You know, we also say, as above, so below, and so, well you all know what is going on below. The state of the world at the moment is just hardly any words to describe it, it is so deplorable. Well, we also have our situation here upstairs, but it's not, it's not the same types that you have, but nevertheless, the situation is extremely complicated. And well, yes, I understand your concern. And … but as I say, I repeat, there are certain subjects that simply is not appropriate, it's not at the moment, not that it is secret or taboo, but no, not at the moment. There are so many other things more important to consider and to talk about, Lemuel, and I think you will agree.

Lemuel
Yes, well, this is Lemuel. I do agree, yes, obviously, but I was bound to ask if you don't mind and because these things have been up and most on my mind. Yes, so, well, okay, Amadon. So please, go ahead when you’re ready.

Amadon
Well, thank you, Lemuel. All right, thank you. Well, yes.
So, let me talk about something in fact that I, I'm sure you're all interested in. You know the problems that are being faced at the moment with the Missions. You all know one minute they're on and the next minute it off, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Because of unique situation on Urantia for the reasons that you're fully aware of, not only due to the fact that Urantia are one in a million planets that the Creator Son Michael of Nebadon has chosen, this little blue blue ball in the outer edges of the section on this universe, to come and live as a human for his seventh Bestowal as Jesus. And the Lucifer rebellion, and all the rest of these things, you know, that is the situation that is so complicated.

But let me mention a few things about a normal planet, what is a normal planet? That has not suffered rebellion. As you know, Urantia is what? 606 of Satania and or 607, I think has been changed recently, as it has got a different number. I'm not certain. And you all know there's 100 (1,000) in a system, so there's still a long way to go before there are 100 (1,000) planets in this system, but in, in other systems, where they have the 100 (1,000) planets finished, there is not one in Light end Life. But I want to mention the general sequence of events on a planet that has not had a rebellion, and does not, and is not a bestowal planet. And well as you all know, there comes a time when… Yes, what I'm thinking, let me go further back. So that you have a complete picture or a more complete picture.

You're all know that when a Creator Son is thinking about creating his own universe, we're talking about a situation that is going to take billions of years in preparation. Yes, billions of years. Well, as you know to use an analogy of, so many that I could use, but let us say a king in his palace wants to have a particular new garden in the part of his kingdom. Well, you know that everything has to be prepared, that the earth has to be prepared, etc, etc, etc, and there comes a time when the expert gardeners and landscape gardeners are called in to do what they have to do, etc, etc. Well, it's the same with the planet as you all know it, there comes a time when the Life Carriers are able to come and begin their work. And so when you really know and understand the reasons for this, then that does away, does it not, with the question, you know, the problem with the chicken and the egg. Which is first? Of course, the chicken is first because the chicken is brought here by the Life Carriers. And so that goes on. Everything is prepared, and the Life Carriers come, etc, etc. Fine.

Well, now fast forward as you're say. There comes time when the planet and the inhabitants are ready to receive the Materials Sons and Daughters, and Adam and Eve. And why? Well, generally because the possibility or the probability or rather the necessity of the Material Son and Daughter to come to the planet when it's the right moment, so to speak, to improve the line, the productivity and the quality of the children that are produced, etc, etc, etc. And why is that? Well, obviously the reason is that the humans, no matter how they are, they may be similar to the humans here on this planet, or very, very different, but nevertheless, the reason for the life is to progress spiritually, to eventually become perfect and evolve with the planet to settle into Light and Life. So that is a short term to give you that picture.

Well, it's very different, of course, here on Urantia, as you are fully aware of. But those other planets that have been successful with the administration and the work on their Material Sons and Daughters, they make much more and quicker advance than here on Urantia, for example, because of everything that has taken place, it stands to reason, does it not? So, that being the case, those people, those beings, who have not had to suffer and put up with the turmoils and problems that poor Urantia, and you beings are had to put up with, they are, by no way half experienced as you are.

Now imposing those specifically for you to think about this. All the problems that Urantia has had to face although what is it? 250,000? Whatever years it is, it's a hell of a long time, yes. But what you have experienced as a species, Homo Sapiens, what you have experienced no other human anywhere has had to have, has had the same experiences. Yes, Urantia has been a school of hard knocks, but it's been so terribly worth it to produce and are producing humans, such as yourselves.

Well, I just thought it was worth mentioning the fact, the difference between a normal planet in a system where the system sovereign is not rebelled, and that the planetary governor and the planetary prince have behaved themselves, etc, etc, and so on, everything has been perfect. Fine, that's okay, but that has not been the case here on Urantia, as you are fully aware of.

So, now coming up to date. Here we are to 6th of March 2025 (2024), and the situation, well, I'm not going to mention situation politically in the world because you are fully aware of that. But as far as we're concerned, we upstairs as Lemuel likes to refer to us “you upstairs”, we upstairs, come into terms with the latest development, the latest agreement, the latest go ahead from Father, knowing what has, what is… what has been put in place so many times. And then yes, there's always been some tweaking to be done here and there, yes, but by enlarge, it is the same plan that has been on the table for years. But especially it's been tweaked more than ever since the rebellion, I'm sorry, since the loss of the supreme and the inauguration of the New Universe Age.

The biggest, yes well, one of the biggest problems, not the biggest problem, but certainly one of the biggest problems that of course we have had to face is of course the remnants of the rebellion insurrectionists and the problem is with the … with those that are still faithful to the supreme. And, you know some things, but you all understand because you've been told before. But then they have lost their parents, they have become orphans. The supreme being and the creator, the creative spirit. So, it's quite understandable to think what they had to come to terms with, they are lost. They are lost. And so to rebel was natural for them, not knowing which way to turn which way to go.

And this has been an ongoing problem ever since 2019, and it's become less and less and less, thank goodness because you have all suffered to some degree, and Ron has suffered as you know tremendously over this during these recent years, because of the insurrectionists that you all refer to now as the cabal. Well, we are hoping now that this is finally over. Finally, finally over, as it's been said before, but they always managed to sneak in here and then to find a little hole. Anyway, we hope, we definitely hope that this time they've gone at least hopefully from Urantia. Alright. This is Amadon speaking, and in fact, well, that's all I need to say at the moment, Lemuel. I will remain. And let me see if there is someone else waiting to come.

Lemuel
Well, this is Lemuel. I'm gonna take this moment to have a little drink if you don't mind. So just a moment please. Thank you. I’d like to refresh my page, just a moment, please. Oh, we are up to 15. So, who can I welcome? Well, welcome Salvador Uruguay Ocurro. Welcome. And welcome 4838. Welcome, Valerie. And welcome, Ron, thank you for joining us. You're so very welcome. All right. So that brings us up to 15.

So, I'm sorry. Amadon, do we have anyone else yet?
Yes. Yes. Thank you, Amadon, thank you.

Arthura
I am Arthura, Lemuel.

Lemuel
Well, welcome, Arthura. It is so good of you to pop in on a Wednesday Lightline.

Arthura
Well, thank you, Lemuel, but it's not just a case of popping in. It is as you know, I’ve a phasing down. I am able to phase down and down, down and down, until I'm able to come face to face, so to speak, and to join a Lightline.

Lemuel
Thank you, Arthura, for phasing down. Please go ahead when you're ready.

Arthura
Well, thank you, Lemuel. Yes. Well, I would like to mention something that perhaps you've all been curious about. And that is the obvious ability that Michael and well, all the Celestials have the ability to travel back and forth from Salvington to Urantia, from Urantia to Paradise, in the twinkling of an eye so to speak. How is that possible? Well, we have our ways, as we say. But we know that you have also thought, obviously, that the maximum speed that anything or anyone is able to attain in time and space is the speed of light. Well, to use your term, the speed of light really is snail mail, obviously. It's gonna take you forever to get from one side of the universe to the next, to the other side, so to speak. So, there must be other ways, and of course, there are other ways. And the simple answer is of course that deep space travel is outside, in fact, of time and space.

To put it more succinctly, in order for Michael and other celestials to travel from Earth, so to speak, or even from Salvington back and forth to Paradise and to have a little chat with, with Father, they have to have another means of transport. Yes, but it is outside of time and space. That's all I can say, because in fac, there's no point in trying to tell you other things about it, because it's simply beyond your comprehension and it's not necessary. But that is the short and sweetest answer, outside of time and space, obviously. If they had to use the time, obviously they couldn't do it, it's just not possible. So, their mode of transport, their way of going back and forth, is completely outside of time and space, which means of course, outside of the Master Universe.

You all know that there is the Grand Central Universe. Think of an octopus with just the seven tentacles. Alright, that is the center, the octopus is the Central Universe. The seven tentacles are the seven Superuniverses. So they are, and all of that put together is the Master Universe and outside of all that again is what in return termed as hyper infinity. So, infinity, and what is infinite is all encompassed, so to speak, within the octopus. Well, as you all know, the octopus is swimming in the ocean, what is the ocean? Well, you can regard the ocean, if you like is hyper infinity. And there are also beings, or you are fully aware of outside of all of that. I exist and so do others in hyper infinity. We do not have time and space. For me to phase down, I have to enter time and space. And that is the same for all deity, for all existential deity. And so perhaps now it will help you to understand the problems that celestials have to face when it is deemed necessary for incarnations.

So, now coming right and up to date. You are now waiting for the incarnations of the Magisterial Sons. Monjoronson, Serara, Sanson, Hanson, and perhaps one or two others. That is still on as far as I am aware of. The Return of Jesus of course is something else. Not to say that separate on the part, but Jesus has his own timeline, so to speak, and his own plans. And so that I cannot say anything about that. But I just want you to know that everything is on again. And you know, the Missions were canceled, just was it less than a week ago, but now they played back on, really back on again. And so you're up to date with the situation. I don't know if anyone else would come and talk. And perhaps Ron has more information, perhaps, and he would like to say something later, but for the moment, this is the situation. And just to remind you again I am Arthura, and in fact I do enjoy it. Well, yes, yes, it is to certain extent, I enjoy phasing down, because I have developed an interest in and yes, Lemuel is thinking, how is it possible? Yes, I'm

Lemuel
Excuse me, can I?

Arthura
Yes, Lemuel, go ahead.

Lemuel
This is Lemuel. I have often thought to myself, how is it possible? Why, for goodness's sake, why is it and how is it possible for someone so high to just exist outside of time and space in what is referred to as hyper infinity? How is it possible that anyone can have any interest in anyone? That's what is going on, on this planet that is absolutely in dire straits, how is it possible? So,

Arthura
Well, Lemuel, that it is possible, and I am such a possible, so to speak, I am particularly interested. One of the reasons, one of the main reasons is because the …, due to the tremendous work that Ron Besser has done over the years, not only to put the means, the way, the means for celestials to actually use something in material sense, literally material sense in the form of Magisterial Foundation in York, is such a wonderful achievement. So wonderful in fact, that as you been informed that the Magisterial Sons are really taken it on. And of course, the Melchizedek as well as they are, so to speak, and they will use it. And it's the first time ever, that this has been done. And this is all thanks to Ron Besser. And so also because of you guys, those of you are able to transmit and have shown such a great interest in the Missions that are to come. Obviously, you can say has enticed me to show an interest because it is such an unique situation here. And so, there you are.

Lemuel
Well, Arthura, I'm so pleased to hear that. Thank you.

Arthura
All right. You're welcome, Lemuel. Well, all right, in fact, I have nothing else to say, and I have enjoyed just popping in, as you'd like to say, and perhaps, no, I can assure I will pop in again some other time. So for the moment, Lemuel, I say thank you, and I bid you all a very good day. Thank you.

Lemuel
Well, thank you, Arthura. Thank you so much. And well, Amadon. Well, perhaps, I'm sorry. Perhaps I feel I should have handed it back to you.

Amadon
That doesn't matter. It's not important, Lemuel. So, yes, this is Amadon. Yes, I am still here. Well, I was very interested also to hear what Arthura had to say. So yes, indeed. All that phasing down from such a high situation. Well, there you go. All right. Well, let me see, Lemuel, if there's anyone else here.
Well, yes, in fact, Michael of Nebadon is here, Lemuel, but I think he's intimated to me that he would prefer if you don’t mind to open up to Ron and ask Ron to take it. So, would you do that?

Lemuel
Well, yes, of course. Thank you, Amadon. Ron, did you hear that? I'm going to unmute you, please, if I may, and I'm given to understand from Amazon that Michael of Nebadon is here and would like to, to speak through you.

Ron Besser
Yeah, I'm unmuted.

Lemuel
Okay, thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser
Thank you, Lemuel, and thank you, Arthura.

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael of Nebadon to all of you. Ron has been experiencing for the last 72 hours, a hideous headache, and unable to move very well. But he is expecting a guest today, and he's looking forward to them. In any case, I want you all to know that I, Michael of Nebadon, have received not only from Ron, a fidelity statement, but from Dominick, and to others of you. We ask you in your own mind, and perhaps in your prayer, to state your fidelity to Michael of Nebadon and that you intend to serve under his command.

The cabal insists on extracting oats that are not true. They are trying to learn how to run a government without experience in front of them, or behind them, I should say. The truth of the matter is that Ron, the Board of Directors of the Magisterial Foundation, and several of its supporting corporations, of which there are six, is looking at the possibility of stealing it not, but placing it into the repertoire of future planets that I might use, that are mature enough to establish something like a Magisterial Foundation. Let me tell you why. With a place on Earth with a telephone, a desk, and the means to incarnate and speak with the powers all around the world of the planet, we are going to provide a Mission, is a miracle. We have never had it before. No one ever thought to do it. Ron did.

And for that reason, we have to be very careful, because this is the first time we've ever attempted a human corporation to renew our physical connections by telephone, visits in the office, and a trial to learn how corporate America will treat us. I am not quite sure. But the Magisterial Foundation is so unique that we're going to try it regardless of how much it costs to do it. That is about all I want to say in that area. You're lucky. Because of it you are open to daily transmissions and posts about our condition and our view of Urantia, your planet, and what we think we're going to do about it. Without it, you would have to be surprised one day.

What might you be surprised with? Well, for one thing, Jesus is not looking at the Second Return with relish. The truth of the matter is that the Second Return is a problem to Jesus as Urantia is on a war footing. We detest it, but that is typical of this awful planet when it comes to leadership. Second of all, Ron has a picture of Xi Jinping of China sitting in the center of the meeting of what we still called the Politburo. They call it a different organ name, but it's still the communist Politburo. Ron sees him sitting in the center as a leader. His eyes are squeezed close, almost shut. He is sitting with his arm slightly folded over his middle chest. He's looking at the desk in front of him and seeing nothing. What do you think this means? We think it means that you have no idea, but it sounds as though he is having an alternative view of life on Urantia through spirit eyes. That's likely the case.

Now, for reasons of state, Ron, you are not permitted to know all those things. And you don't mind. You on the discussion forum know very little more in fact less. For the instance Ron is aware of a lot more through interjections by myself. Gabriel and others in the standard subscription, of what we call a spirit mission to a planet. He hears it all day and as well informed. The problem that we've got with all of you, including Ron, is that the entire matter concerning those who are not included in these transmissions have no real reason to be interested. The subject of God is nearly verboten.

And for reasons of state, the European Union has nothing whatever to do with spirit. They are plutocrats. Those are people high up in government that have no interest, particularly in you, or God. We think the EU will not collapse. As Ron says it must sustain itself. It is too important for those countries of what we call Western Europe, and now the Balkans, possibly Turkey, and now the northern countries must adhere to as a sovereign unity as one, one government. That's not the United States of Europe. That's not the United States, Canada and Mexico, but it is one government between North America and Western Europe to be obtained to almost immediately. The top of the government is spirit. The middle of the government is the United States and the EU and the associated countries such as Canada, Norway, Sweden and so on. The truth of the matter is that without Ron, it is very difficult to achieve patrimony. What Ron has done for those who do not do analysis is he has combined the use of the spiritual intent with the legal system of Urantia primarily through the United States. We are using the legal system much more this time, because we can through the Magisterial Foundation. It's part of humanity and you. Its in your atmosphere with a storefront we will give it. For that reason, it becomes a department first of the planetary government under Mantutia Melchizedek, the planetary prince.

Second of all, It will be recognized by the Urantia population that it has a voice in attempting to show you the attitude of the Spirit Government over each of you and the Magisterial Foundation. Third, there is no use in commenting on those who want to be. Ron understood clear back in 1999 that this had to come into existence. There is no way anybody else could have done it. First of all, he knows the Urantia Book inside and out. If you all have the same knowledge, you would be much more advanced than you are in your thinking. Ron's thinking is advanced. He understands that the spirit government headed by Michael of Nebadon will not work with a rump seat of any organization, without a full dedication of that organization with departments to operate as a Mission. He saw that in 1999. For reasons of state, he did not incorporate until 2003. And then the evolution of incorporations has resulted in the ability for us to use them as a front office. If we want to. I do not always want to but there's portions of it we will.

Further this, The entire matter of Lightline, discussion forum. WTP, Chronicles, and about a host of four or five other categories are now instituted fully in the dispensation declared this morning. Today is March 6, 2024, not 2025, Lemuel. In any case, what you need to understand from our side of things is that the Magisterial Foundation is now a parental unit to anything else we wish to establish to run the Missions and provide you insight into the various moods and attitudes of God. I never had the privilege before and Ron smiles at that and says, I think the privilege is on this side, Michael. We grant you any privilege you wish to take. Thank you.

Ron Besser
Thank you, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael. I never had that said to me before. Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa Melchizedek, Ron. Stay quiet.
We are Machiventa Melchizedek truly. I seldom speak directly through any transmitter. I find it tiring. For reasons on my own, I am speaking directly with Ron. Yes, and he says to me, “I feel it. I am almost stunned into the abstraction of your entity. Please continue”. I have never heard that before Ron. Thank you. I am now sure that those that Ron depends on, which is the Board of Directors of the Magisterial Foundation and the work they do continuously to help it out, will learn not the hard way, but the right way, how to be an important fellowship with a Divine Mission that is now enfolding Urantia.

As I speak, we are now looking at the addition of 13 million Saraphim, 135 Vorondadek Sons, 416 Lanondadek Sons, and 3 million Midsomers. M I D S O M E R S, Raz. And for reasons of our own let it be known that today for any visitation to 2709 has to be rather curt. We are transitioning Ron, as you look at him, and it's not pleasant for him. Please come. We have a lot to talk about today. In any case, Raz, that is Rogers zum Felde will also be accurately decided to be the Secretary General. And Ron named that over a year ago, so that you heard it. You are not just secretary of the board. You are the Secretary General. And that is a unique position for the secretary for they must adhere to the proposition. They build certain departments up for general use in the future. One is the archive and library. Raz, you have the start of this work, you do not have the end of it. Your wife is welcome to participate if she would ever liked.

And finally this, Ron. I see Tyronn at what is it? Tyrannosaurus Rex, in profile in my picture. What's it doing Ron?

Ron Besser
It appears to have a human sideways and its jaw and shaking.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Why is that possible to be seen?

Ron Besser
He may have been hungry.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Hah, yes, Ron.

Ron Besser
Or other things. I can't imagine why the picture.

Machiventa Melchizedek
The truth of the matter is Tyrannosaurus Rex is death. You detest it. You don't want any part of it. What is that you're seeing now?

Ron Besser
I'm seeing a teeter totter. I'm looking at the central point of which the board is laid across and that the riders on either end of the board may go up and down over. I'm seeing the central location where the board sits on the teeter. Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
You have this amazing ability to see great detail. I wanted that shown to let you know that when you look at the Universal Father, the esteemed Creator Son Michael of Nebadon, and a certain number of yourselves, you are looking at the mainstream changes to the Magisterial Foundation we want to make.

First of all, then the Melchizedeks will not resign their council. They will resign their chairmanship. And I want you Ron to take the chairmanship, so long as you live. When you may expire, the chairmanship will devolve back to the Melchizedeks and the organization becomes divine once more.
Today, Ron understood that the Melchizedek counsel was not being withdrawn, and it's not. But the chairmanship of Manituba Melchizedek is withdrawn. You have it fully back, Ron, but do not wish it to remain in your hands.

Ron Besser
This is Ron, the Magisterial Foundation as part of the Divine Missions to Urantia may not be held by the profane human. It must cooperate as a spirit fellow department and I have asked the Melchizedeks to lend their weight and support to the Magisterial Foundation, and to direct it as they choose. I am here a minor council, and when the human board meets, I am Chairman. Thank you, Michael. Thank you Melchizedeks. Thank you Father.

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael, Ron. I have asked you to resign the Magisterial Foundation two days ago. You don't mind, but you must keep adjusting it, though you need additional work done ongoing in spite of the new management. I have now reassigned it back to you, so that you can keep it and back into order through the human condition. But in about four days, and that is the 10th of March, I intend to reassign you, Ron, not to your deathbed, but to the omneity presence of the Eternal Son through you.

You are shocked. You are giving thanks. I am not sure why the Eternal Son has stepped forward to do this. But this, it is the very first time the Eternal Son has requested to be part of a planetary mission, and it happens on Urantia first. For that reason then we must also announce that the Infinite Spirit now declares himself not void, but an ancillary workmanship to the Son’s appreciation. Not only to you, the subscribers who are listening now, but to Ron, and what he has achieved. No one has ever done it before. I don't know what that means for Urantia. We don't know even more what it means for Ron. But he has friends among the mansion worlds who dearly want to see him and chat. For that reason, Ron, Pope Benedict the VIII, one of your favorite friends, is here to speak.

Ron Besser
We appreciate it. Is this Michael?

Michael of Nebadon
Yes. And Pope Benedict the VIII.

Ron Besser
May you proceed with my thanks. Go ahead, please.

Pope Benedict the VIII
Thank you, Ron. This is an extraordinary account . We are the Popes that have died and gone on on the mansion worlds. There are about 83 of us, so you must know how far back this goes. I am now pretending to be the pontiff Ron. Ron says, he's now gitty.Thank you, Ron.

I am Pope Benedict the VIII, Ron, and I hit it off so well, we love to chat together. He is a historian. I am a historian. We both write with the heart of history. I'm professional, he's not. For reasons of state though, the one you call Ron has done something so well done, we the pontiffs of centuries past can participate once again, in real time, with our God. You don't know, you can't guess what that means to us.

I wanted to be known Ron, you're not a pontiff. (Ron giggled.) And you just proved it.

Ron Besser
Yes. (Ha-ha, ha)

Pope Benedict the VIII
And for reasons of state, we do not describe, you are proving it. The truth of the matter is, you are welcome here anytime you may wish, and with Michael's permission to attend our sessions. Thank you, and I hear you say, you would love to, if you can. Now, I am asked to break this off momentarily.

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael of Nebadon, Ron. You are the first human, Ronald Besser, to have achieved a status with a Mission on any planet in the time universes. You have set a precedence of remarkable ability, and a care giving that is far beyond what we expect from humans. Those who join you today are with you. I dare say that almost every one of you today listening will join the group with Ron where we assign you. First on the mansion worlds, and later on Orion for special training. Ron has made it possible by setting aside the epochal revelation and making it work for a coming Mission. I have never had it done, I don't know if it's possible again for anywhere else that Ron saw it and made it happen. He doesn't want thanks. He says is part of service to Father, and he is glad that he has your support, because he can't do it by himself.

And furthermore, to the Melchizedeks, you have made much possible. And I fully appreciate what I call friendship, but what you call the necessary work not only to Father, but to the Paradise Trinity. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Melchizedeks.

Ron Besser
Thank you, my beloved Michael. Thank you, Gabriel. I turn this back to you, Benedict.

Pope Benedict the VIII
Thank you, Ron. This. I have never pontificated over a charge of cardinals better spoken than you are, Ron. The truth of the matter is you belong in the Vatican. But Michael cannot make that happen and Francis is avoid. He cannot achieve this kind of thinking. It needs to be part of the Vatican. I don't know what is possible. And now this. I am Benedict the VIII, Pope Benedict the VIII. I died some time ago, something of a year. And for that reason I lament, I did not finish my life without knowing the people that are like you and Ron, what a way to encourage the Vatican to be again the true voice of God. I'm so sorry. I didn't see it. But now that I do, and I am on the mansion worlds, let me tell you this.

I am Pope Benedict the VIII. Ron keeps calling me Berkeley is because his memory is shot. But he means Benedict the VIII if he could remember it. For that reason, Ron, I have petitioned the Ancients of Days for some understanding why Berkeley comes to Ron's mine. It's this they told me. Berkeley is a nonsense name Ron uses to recall anything he can't remember the true name. He ones was infallible in memory, but old age and this horrible thing that was done to him has seen to it that memory is difficult.


We are not going to change our name, but we are going to remember that Berkeley is occasionally used up here to refer to me, to speak when I have something to say. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, Michael of Nebadon. Thank you Melchizedeks for allowing me to speak. I am Pope Benedict the VIII. I resigned my position not, but I stay in attendance with you, Ron. And thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. We are over time, but we need to take it. The entire matter of Lightline on Wednesday, Lemuel, is still yours. Remember to take your medication and stay well. Don't slide into what Ron has twice now, and that is someone coming by his bed in spirit and preparing him for death. Its a horrible feeling. Furthermore, Ron, you and Raz will meet today, and finally bang out what the archive should contain and fully be printed out and available as an operating library in 6 to 10 months.
Ron, you say it needs to be eventually a public library. But right now it is your archive to operate the Magisterial Foundation in the premises. For that reason, Ron, you need a building. And for that reason, Ron

Ron Besser
I cannot translate the language.

Michael of Nebadon
That is correct.

Ron Besser
Ha, I wondered my way out of that, but it's okay, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
It's truly not okay that I must prevail without a sound on either the funding of the Magisterial Foundation or its library. We've been over this dozens of times up one side and then down. I am leaving Rayson in command to decide exactly how the Magisterial Foundation and free electricity and anything else invented are to be funded and operated.

Rayson, Magisterial Son
This is Rayson, and we are about to leave this Lightline, but stay with this a few moments more. The entire matter of WTP is a miracle. Ron knows it and loves how it works. There is a hydrogen car coming shortly. Ron has objected to the first idea of a patent and says, “You're gonna have it in the garage, eventually with any car manufactured by having the device right above the surface of any road in the United States. They are too rough, dirty and muddy to ensure you get static electricity”. I fully agree with him now. Thank you.

And finally, this. The entire matter concerning the Chronicles Ron is not yours to favor. We will favor it. You named it, you said what the project is, and that is to follow and report Jesus for every meeting and announcement he makes. That is essentially a third volume to the sixth epochal revelation eventually.

Ron Besser
I am not sure we can afford it.

Rayson, Magisterial Son
Jesus says you will. It will be the best reported Bestowal ever. And you Ron are at the back of it again, as usual.

Jesus Christ
This is Jesus Christ. I am coming so soon, you are unprepared. But I want the Chronicles done well Ron. You have asked Gettysburg College to meet with you to prepare for it. They are doubts, and you know it. But you need them and the money must be made available to pay them what they feel they are worth.

Ron Besser
(Ha-ha, ha) it should be free.

Christ Michael
(Ha, ha) that’s wholly the case (ha-ha-ha). In any case, Ron, she is being determined in her own mind, you have something gravely important. You don't overdo it. She knows you are not appearing after college. But you will pay the college what they are worth and they will be the group to do the Chronicles with you. You say you need time to prepare them at least for the appearance to get started even if it's with one arm and the jacket on, and so on. That is true. I am making money available shortly, Ron, just for Gettysburg College. You must arrive at the college and announce yourself to the President and get him to understand you are not a college graduate.

Ron Besser
He'll never understand that.

Christ Michael
(Ha-ha) yes, they have (ha-ha). Not at Gettysburg but at York college. Both of those colleges will claim your patronage. Both of them have your patronage. But at the same time is only one graduated you and that was York with a diploma in history. For that reason you're one of the few in the United States that is well educated. Anyone with a history degree has to delve into purposes and meanings. You can't graduate without doing it.

And finally this to everyone involved on this list today. We have now been overtime by about 20 minutes, and we are leaving you soon, I am turning this back to Lemuel in a moment. The entire reason of the Magisterial Foundation was to house certain means to accommodate change, so that epochal revelation is distributed and is fairly written well enough to inform all of you of the history, and the times of Urantia, and the universe it belongs to. One last thing before I go, and I'm Michael. You, Ron, are trying to stay awake, even as you speak, because of the heavy drama over you. Don't worry about it. You will be enlightened shortly what all of this pressure is.

And finally, to all of you ladies and gentlemen. Those on the tape as well. I am grateful for what you have managed to put into effect. The Magisterial Foundation and other concerns of other transmitters, not just here on this site, but they all have one thing in common. They do not like what Ron has done. Why? I'm sorry to say Ron stole the march. He saw it back almost 20 years ago. He insisted that he archive the Teaching Mission. There are now 7000 transcripts up on the internet, Tmarchive.org. Look! And look at the wealth of transmissions. It must be preserved between Dominick, Ron, Raz, and the rest of you, it must not disappear. It is attacked all the time. But the originator of that website saw to it that it could not be brought down, except all the tapes were accidentally erased by one who tried to help. In any case, it can be re preserved with the tapes, if someone knows how to work a database.

And finally this to all of you. We are now complete with this Wednesday Lightline and Lemuel, I give it back to you to end its life for now. And whatever else you wish to say. Thank you. Take it.

Lemuel
Thank you, Ron, and a big thank you to all who who transmitted through you the wonderful messages that we have received. Thank you so much for that, Ron, really, thank you so much. Well, this is Lemuel, and it only remains for me to say a big thank you to my first guest which was Amadon, and then to Arthura, and that I enjoyed very much what they had to say, and I hope you did too. And so without anything else to say, except thank you again for your company, and I hope that I will be able to welcome you all again next Wednesday, which will be Wednesday the 13th of March 2024. So until then, look after yourselves love one another and God bless.

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  • 030424 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise Sophia Veronica; other transmitter: Ron Besser
  • Subjects: the Missions are open again; Machiventa Melchizedek returned to work with us on Urantia, Magisterial Sons and Melchizedeks continue their Missions; Father is calling us to come to him and spoke about process and true values; Adam and Eve preparing to return with a staff of new teachers, and offer their help to us; Jesus has questions for us and teaching us; Ocilliaya spoke on getting involved in the Missions voluntarily, Machiventa Melchizedek through Ron Besser touched on important subjects for the future; Midsomers are offering their wonderful service to each of us;    
  • Speakers: Machiventa Melchizedek, Universal Father, Eve (of Adam and Eve), Jesus, Ocilliaya (Master Spirit 4), also spoke through Ron Besser Machiventa Melchizedek, and Midsomers
  • Transcriber: sonsofGod
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240304_110236 
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Elise  
Hello, everyone. This is Lightline Netherlands international on Monday, the fourth of March 2024. I'm Elise, your host, and I welcome you all and thank you for being here. We have 13 callers, including me as a host.

I want to take a short moment to thank our Father for bringing us together once more. We ask you, Father, for your blessings for us and for the world. We pray for our world, for the thousands of people who have no home and live in fear and uncertainty that they may be protected, and that light may shine again over Urantia, Thank you, Father. We also ask for clear channel and a clear reception of your word. Well, let's see who is there today to lead us through this session.

Machiventa Melchizedek    
Hello, good day to all. This is Machiventa Melchizedek. I've been listening to your conversation with Steven Gitz, and we consider him a real good person to stick his nose into something we have no clue about, but he will learn. So let's see what happens.

Well, in the meantime, we are gathered here for your Lightline, Elise. We have heard some news on the Sunday Lightline, the Missions are open again. We all are adjusting ourselves and realign a little, allowing things to be a little different. Maybe that's not much, we just go and do our work. We are full of hope, and to tell you the truth we actually never gave up. We as the Melchizedeks, have gone through many trials and many things we have seen happening on different worlds, and we could help the world to solve their problems, to teach their people, and to make things every now and then a little better.

I myself, Machiventa Melchizedek, have returned to Urantia because I love this planet. I feel attached to it, to its people with their endless troubles and their warlike behavior, not to forget. But well, I also see many good things happening in little corners here and there, and in groups gathering together striving for a better world, a better life for their children and grandchildren, and I would really like to see this planet advance and take its first steps into the era of Light and Life.

We, the Melchizedeks, we have been guiding this planet from the beginning of its existence, and we are of course very familiar with all Michael’s wishes, which he likes to execute and make real for you. Your Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon. has done and does always everything for his universe, and he desires his children to go on into the next world, morontia, better prepared and accustomed to what you are to expect, and what is expected of you, the humans, from the inhabited worlds in Nebadon. And, of course, he is especially concerned for your system Satania, where love and brotherhood has fallen so far behind, and where truth is not something everyone strives for. Many do not even know God.

Well, let me stop this talking and I would like to lead you into the words of our Father, who is present here and wants to talk to all of you. And I stay back.


Elise
Thank you, Machiventa, thank you. And welcome to Father. Please, I would almost say take a seat, but please talk if you're ready.

Universal Father
Yes, this is the Universal Father. I speak to all of you here. I want you to know that I'm never gone, remember that. I am approachable and I want to be heard by all my children. I want you to keep up the good work and your good intentions for the benefit of your planet and for all of you, my children. I am your Universal Father. Remember the truth. Remember to search for the truth. Do you remember truth, beauty and goodness? Remember your Father. And although it seems that now and then you are thrown back on your own, that is not true. The truth is that I am Father, the Father of all. I'm always there to receive your prayers. I am with you. Remember I gave you a part of myself to be with you, to lead you where your path is laid out for you.

And for all of you my children, there is so much to experience besides this world of Urantia, where people, not all of them but many, do not seem to care or long to learn about their true heritage. They seem to be caught up in their own business not knowing anything about Father's business. Think of that. It's so easy. You're always doing the Father's business when you attend to others, to your brothers and sisters, whom you're giving your love and care. But you all have your own paths to walk. Everyone among you is different. You all walk a different path, you might meet each other again on one of those paths, but whatever way you go they all lead to me, to your Father. I will be with you on all those different paths that you are going to set your feet on. Many have done this before you and many will do it after you. But for all of you the purpose and the reward will be the same, to be received by me, your Universal Father

This is your Universal Father speaking to you, embracing you all. Keep in my love and do not forget truth, beauty and goodness for all ways in the universe of your Universal Father. Thank you, my children. I am returning this to you Elise, and there is someone waiting for you to speak.

Elise
Thank you, Father. Thank you so much. Well, I don't know who is waiting for us but please come forward.

Eve
Yes, good day and good evening. This is Adam and Eve.

Elise
Well, welcome Adam and Eve. Please go ahead.

Eve
Thank you, Elise. This is Eve. Adam is here too, but it is me, Eve, who is going to speak to you. We have not spoken for a while and the reason was not less interest on our part or on your part, but the changes that had to be made to adapt things and to make it working on the planet to be more inviting for the Magisterial Sons to continue with their Mission, as they seek to carry out what to do, and how to use the Magisterial Foundation and many other things you are not quite familiar with. We have been and I have been working in the background, and we could not step into a world that is too dangerous to approach, where there is no possibility to be heard or understood what we have to say. But Michael of Nebadon, your Creative Father, has made a change in the program which became necessary when many high officials in the universe became convinced that the insurrectionists would never voluntarily leave or stop their nuisance if it wouldn't be firmly imposed on them.

We, Adam and Eve, were told that they are being transferred to another place in the universe and forced to find something better to do. They have continued to disrupt our schedules and have kept us somewhat at a distance from Urantia. We do not know if they will be reeducated, but we have all seen the wrong way and how one can become disconnected from reality, making it very difficult to understand the truth. But eventually, everyone will learn that a universe without the laws and will of the Father does not exist. Father is both the Creator and Upholder of all that is, and that can be a hard lesson to learn for some.

We Adam and Eve hope that this will be the beginning of a better time to reach out to you and work, since the Missions have restarted and will soon become more clear when the Magisterial Sons will make their entrance into your world to begin their long-awaited Missions for Urantia. And that will be a sign for us to prepare for our departure and get ready for our new arrival on your planet. We have an expanded staff of teachers who are very eager to make themselves known to you and to begin their educational work for many in the future.

In these last months, you have all experienced a little of what it takes to begin a Mission on a world in darkness, and how many efforts from the heavenly side have been in vain and had to be withdrawn. At this moment, we need a little time to adjust and to re instruct ourselves for such a huge undertaking as these Missions on Urantia, which will involve much more than you can imagine. You have witnessed the difficulties and the attacks. And what you have heard or seen is only a small part of what has been going on in the universe, but now, steps can be taken to get assistance from the other side, and we pray that this will continue.

We will be working also with the Melchizedeks. The Melchizedeks have never left the planet and are working hard to find ways to reach those of your people who are making decisions. You know that they are stationed on many places and are trying to see to it that things do not get out of hand and lead to disastrous events. Almost an impossible task when we look at what is brewing in the minds of your, or some of your leaders.

We, Adam and I, suspect that we will be on this planet when the Missions are in full swing, and the Magisterial Foundation is a place where everyone can go for information and to get acquainted with the divine work that will become present and visible to you. You will hear many more speakers from the other side speaking to you in times to come, as new circuits will open up for those who want to be part of the works that will take place here. There are many of you on this world, and we need many to be strong and persistent to become an example to those who cannot hear us, for them who are deprived of the communication that you are so fortunate to receive. And of course, everybody has the right to live a dignified and peaceful life, including Urantia, a planet for which all necessities had been provided but which is corrupted to the core. And in many respects abused to such an extent that it is almost impossible for your children to grow up in a normal and healthy way, and to develop into a better human race destined for future evolution.

We, Adam and Eve, wants you to know that we're here for you, you can always ask for a transmission, we will be glad to come, and know that you are not alone. There are always people who can help with your difficulties that need to be overcome, and to ways that need to be adapted. We are here to help to find better ways, better methods to learn, to care for the people, and its habitats. And once again, stay the course and it's never easy. We ask again for your patience, your cooperation, your willingness to serve, and to be a part of what needs to be done for Urantia. And we thank you. This is Adam and Eve, and we take our leave. Thank you for listening.

Elise
Thank you, Adam and Eve, thank you for coming and speaking to us. Okay, this is Elise. Let me look at the dashboard and see if it's still … oh, it's up to 16. Well, welcome all those who came in later. I am going to see if there is more for us tonight, or today for you. Is there anyone else who would like to speak to us?

Jesus
Hello, yes, this is Jesus.

Elise
Welcome, Jesus. Please speak if you wish.

Jesus
Yes, this is Jesus. What can you say when you wake up and look at the world? What has changed? How is it different from yesterday? People get more frustrated as wars continue, and as countries suffer from lack of everything and even food, no homes, no expectation that the end is near. I'm just giving you an example of a few countries you know, but there are many other places you do not have images of, and where the situation is the same, where the circumstances are just as bad.

In the midst of all this what do you think I should do? What do I, Jesus, do? Do people expect me to perform miracles or make everything new again? I could not and I would not want to do that. Because when I leave everything would start again in no time, and people would not have learned their lessons. The lessons of life, which means living together and seeing each other as your neighbor, as family members who share, who care about each other. Who help each other. Not because they have to, but because they feel the love as family members for each other.

Oh yes, I know it's much easier to love those you grow up with but take a look at families around you. Do they live in peace with each other? It's sometimes difficult to get alone. Where then is that sense of compassion? Some of you decide not to see each other any longer and you break up. What kind of peace is that? Is that peace of the heart, peace of mind? You say, no not at all, and I agree.

Peace, my dear ones has to come from within. It comes from the heart. It will be felt fully. It encourages people to work with and for each other, and to stay at peace. Which means doing for each other what you wish for yourself. That is something completely forgotten. But it's always still the most important thing to raise your children with. Do for others what you like to do for yourselves without regret, with love, even passion for yourselves and for the other. And there's nothing, really nothing that makes a person feel batter by, and more satisfied, than the feeling of love for one another. The feeling that you give to make another happy. To help someone in the difficulties of life. Doing good to others not only makes you feel good, but makes your heart swell with love and satisfaction, and it makes your soul grow.

Well, this is something that humans seem to learn through experience. And it will be learned through the trials that humanity goes through. It's true, when more than half of the world's population is living in misery, the world will have to change. Because it is no longer able to care for so many sick physically and mentally ill then your population cannot live a dignified and decent life, and will go down to its own demise.

Elise
Demise? Demise I hear.

Jesus
I am Jesus. These are harsh words, but they are true. And a way must be found for different solutions. The Missions are open. We are all happy and we'll see what it brings. The Melchizedeks are still working hard among your people to find an opening and bring about changes in agencies and companies to run their business in a more honest way. The Melchizedeks are present in areas of your world where change is most needed. And remember, they are the Emergency Sons who come down and help where things seem almost impossible. But they are always almost successful in their ways of steering things into another direction.

I am Jesus. I'm with you. Pray that there will be success. Pray for the Father's blessing. Pray for a different world, for the world to be healed. Pray for the innocent. Pray for the soul of many who go astray. Pray for their return to Father, the one and only God. This is Jesus. I give you my peace and I leave you in my peace. May you be blessed.

Elise
Thank you, Jesus. Well, this is Elise, these are no hands up, no questions. I'm looking at the dashboard and I see. Let me see if there is someone else for us?

Ocilliaya, Master Spirit #4
This is Ocilliaya. I am Master Spirit number four from Superuniverse number four. I want to take this opportunity to reflect on the fact that changes have taken place. And even though it seems that there is not much progression, there are things starting and going on. That gives your world a new opportunity and more space to once again participate in the upward flow of development, and to be open to the renewals and refreshments that are being given to your planet.

Do you remember the New Universe Age decreed by the Father several years ago that became necessary, because of the chaotic condition that the supreme had created, which made it necessary for the Father to provide his universe with new structures. All of this is still taking place and some of it will take a great deal of time, because it involves years of adjustment at thousands of levels in the universe. But many adjustments or changes have already taken place or are at work in a universe that is beginning to adapt to new structure, a new structure of governance. of divisions and changes, about which you have been regularly informed. But, this time just a day ago your Creator Father, Michael of Nebadon, wished to make a new opening, a refreshed start, and he wishes it to begin immediately. You have all been informed. And this new approach is not going to take ages. It has already started and as you have heard, the Divine Son will be visible on your planet shortly.

We see a lot of ways opening for those who have the intention to be with Michael, and to set themselves to the work with Michael of Nebadon in whatever way you can. You do not have to get a job offer, you can do it in your own environment. Look around and try to feel the changes, and if you don't make your changes or can make a change, ask for it and pray for it. The whole universe is linked to everything else. Whatever progress you make on your world Urantia is felt by other worlds, in other universes also. Every attempt you make for piece in your environment is felt by others.

I am a Ocilliaya. I just wanted to come here to speak some words. I'm going to retreat and I give this back to you, Elise. Thank you for listening to my words.

Elise
Thank you, Ocilliaya. Thank you. Give me just a minute to see if there's anyone else here. No. Let me look at my dashboard and I see that, oh, there are 17 callers, and Ron is here. Ron, I'm going to ask you, I'm going to unmute you and ask you if you have anything for us.

Ron Besser
Thank you, Elise.

Elise
I hope you have a voice.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. I am speaking through Ron, who has a husky voice due to the changes in the mouth that is being made by an overture, by the Uversa Administration to maintain his ability to transmit, and to also obtain a slightly deeper voice. For that particular reason, let us obtain a certain amount of information that might be helpful to all of you.

Number one, I am Machiventa Melchizedek. Ron has been fighting extradition to the mansion worlds now for two days. Don't worry about it. He is not worried about it, but what it takes is a revision within the body system itself. That makes him tired, sleepy, and sometimes just not very bright. For that particular reason, he has been very careful not to do a lot of serious posting. However, this morning, he decided to write a bulletin to the Board of Directors of the Magisterial Foundation. The resulting dictation is really great to read. However, Michael of Nebadon requested not to send it. So we have not bothered sending it.

And for your final information, let us conclude this. Elise, you are about to go on vacation. Ron isn't quite sure when you're going to do it, but it's to Spain. And there you will enjoy a few weeks of relaxation. In the meantime, the Magisterial Foundation must be counseled. No more Lightlines, at least until you return. Except for the Sunday Lightline that Ron will always hold, for me in particular.

And for reasons that I do not exactly describe, we are about to ensure Ron's life that whatever happens, there will be a Ron around for some considerable time. Ron says,

Ron Besser
Well, I hope so, and that I might feel better.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
And you will, Ron. Thank you.

And finally, this. Since this is just a piece of information, we are not going to particularly worry about it right now, but in the future, we will have a big talk about it. And that is the idea of poverty. Ron was dictated to this morning by an evangel. He didn't know who dictated it, but it was on poverty, and it is really terrible to read.

For reasons of state Ron has asked not to post it until there is a reasonable amount of time that has passed, and so that we know if this is something we need to post and address. For the most part, Ron considers it the work of the cabal. Not that it's bad, but that it is not directly associated with the Missions.

We are announcing that, for example, in El Salvador there are 30 million people, and most of them do not have a waste disposal plant to process waste. As a result, the countryside is beginning to fill up with burials of human waste, and that it is beginning to leach into the groundwater. And that is going to cause a serious outbreak of cholera. That's just one example. I have nothing further to say, Ron.

Ron Besser
All right, I got a flash. That's all.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you. You did indeed.

Ron Besser
And I'm letting it alone. Well, I don't mind, and thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you, Ron. And finally, this. The truth of the matter is Ron, your head is as sharp as ever. Your need for sleep (is) continuous, and the need to keep warm is vital. You've been doing it by wrapping yourself in a big robe and putting blankets around you. That is scheduled to end in about a week.

Ron Besser
Yes, Machiventa. There is nothing more miserable than being chilled and cold all the time. Except maybe hunger.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
And for reasons of state, you Ron, are one of the few that knows how to be addictive to the … a…

Ron Besser
Yeah, they're fooling around with memory, Machiventa. And its to the blanket that you plug in. If it weren't for that, I don't think I get through the night.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you. That's what I wanted to know, Ron. Thank you.
And now this. Elise, you are soon going on vacation. Please announce then when you are not holding Lightlines, but wait for it for me to give it back to you.

And finally this to you, Ron. Your Sunday Lightlines are carefully monitored by a group of people not in El Salvador, but in Canada and other places on Urantia you would not expect. There is a neighbor you know quite well who hears the Lightlines, and wonders why he's connected.

Ron Besser
I do not know which neighbor it is. But thank you neighbor.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
And finally this. The entire matter over the entire Mission supposition is this. Michael intends a Mission. The discussion forum has dropped off considerably. Ron doesn't mind but is reminded that sensational news is not our intention, and we will not use it. But it cannot happen (to) be anything but sensational with this announcement. The following makers are now available to be heard.

Midsomers
We are the … we aren't really named in the Urantia Book. And now I have to sit here and make up a name. Let us call ourselves Midsomers or Midsomer! M I D S O M E R. We write and light the candles on Ron's mantle every night at 8:30. On go the candles. They have one battery in them, and they are very much looking like wax. They are a very comfortable addition. And Ron loves to see them come on.

I want to announce this. Anybody of you who gets some candles and that is the electrical type that has no wires, but a battery inside, put it somewhere you can see them. And every evening we will establish a schedule when it gets dark. We will light your candle that is to show you we are here, we keep your company, we are ready to be seen when we can. Remember, get yourself a candle with a battery in it. Ron's candles turn off. That's automatically inside them. Get a candle that doesn't light unless you turn them on. We will turn them on.

And finally this. Call us the Midsomers, M I D S O M E R S, not a double M. Ron knows us almost like the Midwayers. We are very similar to the Midwayers, but we originate on a planet that is not human.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
They look human, but they're not. And this Ron, you're not going to get your hands on them.

Ron Besser
Chipmans.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Yes, Ron. The truth of the matter is, no one is caring for you very much these days. But your time is coming. Nobody knows what you've done. Nobody will know until the Midsomers are in action. And for now dear Elise, we are turning this back to you, and thank you for the time. Back to you. Bye bye.

Elise
Thank you, Ron, and thank you, Midsomers for, well, for the idea of lighting our candles and I will certainly do that. I guess we all want to do that and have our candles lit at a certain time. Beautiful. Thank you so much.

Well, thank you, Ron, and thank you, Machiventa Melchizedek, and everyone else who has spoken on this Lightline. The Universal Father and Eve with Adam next to her. We'd like to thank Jesus, of course, and Ocilliaya, and I also want to say that I'm going on a short vacation. I am waited especially for after this Llightline and I will be away tomorrow, but I will return before the weekend to be back for the Lightlines on Sunday and Monday, the coming Sunday and Monday. I'm only away for a couple of days. So, I don't think I have to post it on the forum, because it doesn't get in the way of anything, and we are not missing, I'm not missing one Lightline.

Okay, this is the end of our Lightline, and I thank all my listeners for being here with us. And it has been a pleasure for me to do this again. I thank everyone, and as I just told you, I will be there next week on Monday as usual, at the same time. So till then, goodbye and have a good day for whatever is left of it. Thank you.


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  • 022924 Audio Lightline USA, transcription, host: Ron Besser
  • Subject: Michael of Nebadon left Urantia, Magisterial Foundation will not be used for WTP considerations, the cabal is still here in huge numbers, cabal attacked Ron again, the Missions turned off due to Urantia conditions, as well Jesus’ appearance depends on war situations, Ron is preparing Jesus’s birth chart, Q&A, technical problems explained around WTP, waiting to see government’s action plan    
  • Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, and Jesus
  • Transcriber: sonsofGod
  • Link to tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240229_110548


Ron Besser  
Hello, everyone. This is a Lightline on Thursday at 2pm. Ron Besser, your host, February 29, 2024.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael, Ron. You didn't know you had a Lightline until you read Dominick's email.

Ron Besser  
That's right. I didn't know I had scheduled for Thursday. But anyhow, now that we're here, Michael, have you any suggestions?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. There are now six of you. And that's Roger Krupa. Valerie, and Jose Vargas, and Steven Gitz and Ron, and Elise.

Ron Besser  
Most people think, apparently, that I'm not holding a Lightline, but Dominick said I did, and here I am.

Michael of Nebadon  
For reasons o... Hello, Charlotte, welcome. And for reasons of state, I am going to announce a few things that Ron just posted. But I know you don't read it all the time, and this is very important.

Number one, I left Urantia this morning. I told Ron when I left, and I told him this. The Magisterial Foundation is not removed. We're keeping it, we're using it. But we are not going to use the WTP as a main consideration. We're going to use the Magisterial Foundation in order to make sure that you all get proper information. You should understand: One, I left Urantia today, totally to put out. The cabal is still here in huge numbers. Number two, Ron could hardly get into the service that you're listening to this morning. They also hit him hard in the chest and hurt his heart. It burns it aches, but the heart is fine, Ron.

And finally this. The entire matter with Dominick, you, and the Lightlines are now truncated. Dominick is no longer going to work on transmissions. You, Ron, are going to hold at most two Lightlines a week. Always use your Sunday. And if we need an extra one, we will assign the day as a schedule in the Sunday Lightline.

Ron Besser  
That'll help, Michael, thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Furthermore, Dominick is not confused. You did announce that you were going to hold a Thursday Lightline, but so much has happened you forgot about it. Why did we want the Thursday Lightline? The answer is that I have decided to close down the Missions. Urantia is in a state of war almost everywhere. The United States is so powerful, all it has to do is say no, and there is no war.

Second, there is a problem with the Missions themselves. Now the Ancients of Days want the removal of the Jesus aspect. We have advertised it so much; we don't feel we dare. Besides Jesus is a teacher. He teaches on Paradise the transcendental students, as well as the paradise citizenry. For right now that is in suspension for a little while by their time. But by the time that is reckoned here on these Lightlines, as well as the clock on your wall, it is is a very important Mission to state and show. We're going to do it, but I'm going to hold back on the announcement. As soon as we can. We just lost Charlotte. Sorry.

Now this the truth of the matter is ..

Ron Besser  
She quit?

Michael of Nebadon  
No, Ron. There's a telephone buzzing in her ear. It's her husband, not. It's important.

Ron Besser  
Ah, all right.

Michael of Nebadon  
In any case, this. We now have a grand total of seven and that will have to do. This Lightline is produced by Ron, for your individual care. The entire matter of other Lightlines is not appropriately spoken to by me, when I say, for your care.

Ron Besser  
We now have Charlotte back, welcome. Jose Varga, Valerie. Roger Krupa. Elise, Steven Gitz, and myself. That is our audience. I have you muted just to keep the noise low.

Michael of Nebadon  
And finally, this. I wanted understood that the trial that you are in Ron is over. No, not death, Ron, you will recover your eyesight today, as well as reduce the pain in your legs. It's up to you how you want to do supper. He is not listening, he is not doing, and as a result who knows what we're going to get.

Now this. I ... Roger Raz, you just joined I think, welcome. And for reasons of state, let me remind all of you that the Magisterial Foundation has done so well, we're keeping it I really like it. For our own reasons, free electricity will be built. Number two, Ron you will not be kept alive for all of it. But you will be kept alive for many days to come.

Ron Besser  
How cheerful?

Michael of Nebadon  
And finally this. To you, Raz, you are up to your ears in archiving. Someone asked Ron this morning. what is Raz doing with all this archiving? And Ron said, apparently you don't know. But we are going to produce much of the archiving in a text, of printed text. And that is what begins the foundation of the big library we wish to put into place regarding the fifth epochal revelation, as well as the sixth, and all of the communications and other issues that led up to such.

Now, Ron doesn't know this. Today is the 29th of February. He knows that its Leap Year Day. But what he doesn't know is that Leap Year Day happens to fall on the very day that today is, what I was born all those years ago in the manger. It wasn't December 25 as you know, it was August 21 by your calendar today. And I was born almost on the stroke of noon. For that reason, Ron, the calendar is seven years out of date. They got it wrong by seven years as a consequence, and you all know this. I was born 7 BC, at noon. And that was (in) Jerusalem.

Ron, you recently completed a birth chart of Jesus and hid it. Why?

Ron Besser  
Its incomplete, Michael. I don't, I can't fill in all of the houses, and their cast degree. I can fill in the fact of what the rising sign is, the sun sign, and it orients the wheel perfectly well. I am also not sure it's 12 houses. So, there are several houses that wind up intercepted. I'm not quite sure that is entirely right.

Michael of Nebadon  
Well, write this down Ron.

Ron Besser
All right. Hold on. Jesus' birth chart. Rising 16 degrees Capricorn, first house. 4 degrees Orion. I have that intercepted. Yah. Second house 30 degrees. Well yeah, you have to tell me the order. With Orion in there I don't know how to order. Is it Pisces by chance?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. Third house, 15 degrees, and enter a constellation you don't know. Just call it Ohsepatis. Fourth house. 8 degrees 30 minutes.

Ron Besser  
Aries?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. Fifth house. 9 degrees. 12 minutes.

Ron Besser  
Taurus?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. Sixth house. 9 degrees, 4 minutes.

Ron Besser  
Do I hear Capricorn correctly?

Michael of Nebadon  
No.

Ron Besser  
Because it's out of order. The next normal one we have today is Gemini.

Michael of Nebadon  
And that would be correct, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Let me see, One... two... Yeah, I have enough that the reflections of 7 through 12, if they follow normal order, I can fill in. No.  

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. Seventh house, 9 degrees,

Ron Besser  
Is it Cancer?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. Eighth house, 12 degrees.

Ron Besser  
Well, that sounds like it might be Lio.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. And the ninth house is 4 degrees, 20 minutes. A one you never heard of.

Ron Besser
Is this around … the Orion, it's near Orion?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
I don't know those names offhand. All right. But when I go to erect it, I will not have a chart beside me to see where the constellations are. and it is the... tenth house, which is very important.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
8 degrees, 20 minutes. And I have to will fill that in. All right. Well, it might be Virgo.

Michael of Nebadon  
It is Virgo, Ron. Thank you. Now that's all I'm going to give you for now.

Ron Besser  
Well, I thank you very much. I have some of that recovered, but I don't have all that recovered. And I thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. We will straighten some of it out later. All right, why did I give on the air, the birth chart of Jesus? Ron is the only one that attempted it. Furthermore, Ron said I can't use something called an ephemeris. And that's because at the time of Jesus's birth, the constellations rose differently over Urantia. You were in a different space area, as well. As a result, the constellations that fill in the modern wheel of astrology were different. Ron attempted to put it together, he has about 75% of it right and left blank big areas, because he had no idea what fell in there.

Michael of Nebadon  
Now, I have gone through this means of telling you something about the birth chart for Ron to understand that he alone understands how Jesus is preoccupied, not with justice, but with the understanding there is a God. Most of the Israelis, at the time of Jesus's birth, understood there was God the Father. But there was an additional kingdom that was not called Judea, but Israel. Israel set to the north and a line divided what laid to the south, which was Judea. Each had a king of their own. Ron is aware that Judea is the one that came up with the idea of the birth of Christ. Because Judea is the one that contains the town of Nazareth. For reasons of state, Ron, we are no longer going to use the word Nazareth. And we're going to use the word Jerusalem.

Ron Besser  
It sounds like cabal.

cabal
It is not.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you, Ron. This is not yours to hear further.

Jesus  
And now this. This is Jesus, Ron, thank you. You snob that one good.

Ron Besser  
I can't believe how sneaky they are.

Jesus  
Yes. And now this. This is Jesus. Ron, reiterate. There truly is an Israel and a Judea at the time of the birth. It's still the strip of land that Churchill gave to them at the end of World War Two. But it is divided like a belt almost in the middle. And the kingdom of Israel is to the north and Judea is to the south. Jesus was most likely born in Judea. But now it's all Israel, and no one disputes the name.

Michael of Nebadon  
And finally this, Ron. The entire matter over which we must provide this transmission service is seriously under attack. And we prefer that you unmute and discuss anything you want for the time being I will reset this frequency.

Ron Besser  
Hold on. Okay, everybody, there are eight people with us right now, as this group. I've opened it to all. It's not too noisy with just eight. Is there anything you would like to talk about while I'm connected?

Valerie  
Ron?  

Ron Besser  
Yeah,

Valerie  
I have a question.

Ron Besser  
All right.

Valerie  
As Father Michael was talking, the question popped up in my head, because of what he said about the constellations. Is that true that he's able to go back in time to be as it was present to him?

Ron Besser  
That's right. The sky was a little bit different. the ... I'm gonna have to mute. Who in the hell... (sounds a terrible echo and noises)

Steven  
It's not me.

Ron Besser  
Valerie, that might be yours.

Valerie  
I don't know why, it's quiet here, nothing is disturbing. Perfect silence here around me.

Ron Besser  
That is being broadcast through your phone.

Valerie  
Yeah, let me mute it then. I don't know why, but okay.

Ron Besser  
All right. It's still broadcasting. All right. It seems to have stopped. Now, where were we?

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael, Ron. The attack is over. That was a cabal attack, Valerie. Your phone had nothing to do with it. They were feeding in another radio station. I was hearing the man lecture.

Steven  
Yeah. Yeah, that sounded like that.

Ron Besser
Yeah. It's another radio station that was fed in. Anyhow, Valerie, you asked about whether the constellations were different, very different. Does that answer your question?

Valerie  
No. I mean, I understand they were different, but what my question was, is that true that Father Michael as being God is able to go back in time as it was present to him back 2000 years ago, like it would happen now for him?

Ron Besser  
Well, he can reference it as history. I don't know exactly how high spirit looks at events on Urantia. But this one I'm sure is well looked at, and even enough well that Jesus could provide the cast degrees for a fairly good birth chart. And what else, Valerie?

Valerie  
Thank you. That would be all. Thank you so much.

Ron Besser
Yes. All right. Thank you, Valerie.

Valerie  
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser
The... Everything is open again. If anybody has anything to say, go ahead.

Jose  
Ron?

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Jose  
I have a question. If I may.

Ron Besser  
Is that you, Jose?

Jose  
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes. I have a question regarding the last Lightline. You mentioned through Jesus that he had a local universe of his own which we heard that before. But you said the name of his universe, local universe, is Timonium. Yet in past Lightlines it was said that the name of the universe, his universe is Tintenium.

Ron Besser  
And that it was.

Jose
Is that correct? Was that corrected? The name is corrected or changed or?

Ron Besser  
No, it is Tintentium.

Jose  
Okay, perfect. Okay because it was said it was Timonium, I wrote it down. Okay, that's fine. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Who knows? The transition I'm going through not only is hitting my, my body that cause pain, but it's also muddling the brain at times for picking the right word in transmission. And that sounds like one of the classic errors.

Jose  
All right.

Ron Besser  
Timonium, by the way, is a city in Maryland.

Jose  
Okay, All right.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, many of times did I travel through it. You a ... you get to it before the big bridge. Anybody?

Jose
Thanks, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Sure. Anybody else?

Valerie  
I have another question.

Ron Besser
We'll try it.

Valerie  
What I would like to ask, is there a reasonable explanation why again the tides are turning that the Deity Absolute would decide not to pursue the Jesus Return?

Ron Besser
Would not pursue the Jesus what?

Valerie  
The Return of Christ. Because I, I might misunderstand, but that's what I understood earlier, when Father Michael was speaking, that there is a change now.

Ron Besser  
Well, I know the date of entry, but he is affirming there will be a date of entry. We have nothing further to report on that because we don't, we don't have the information. That's all I can tell you, Valerie.

Valerie  
Right, but there will be. It's not canceled.

Ron Besser
It sounds that Jesus is still confirming he will appear.

Valerie  
I just misunderstood.

Ron Besser  
Just a minute.

Jesus  
This is Jesus. You Ron are not incorrect. But I have warned everybody involved. that if you persist, and that Urantia, in bringing new wars to bare, I have no use for you. I'm going back and be a teacher. That is my calling right now. That is what I want to do if you can't behave on Urantia.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Jesus, very much. I appreciate the clarification.

Jesus  
Thank you, Ron.

Unrecognized voice
Teacher. But he is not going to teach in a real class, does he?

Ron Besser  
Well, who? ... I don't know. It is almost impossible to say anything specifically today. This morning. Michael of Nebadon spoke to me on Urantia. I did not post what he told me. But the fact of the matter is he's walked off Urantia, and does not intend to come back with a Mission. But he indicated that Jesus would or should, depending on the favor Jesus shares with you and I and Urantia. That's all we can say. I have nothing more than that to report. Thank you, Jesus.

Jesus  
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Anybody else?

Steven  
Ron, I'm just a little curious about WTP. I know that in time, it shall be done. But right now, it's off the table for any kind of a.., well, the government can never get their act right, but any kind of action that we can even take? Just let it ride?

Ron Besser  
No. All of you can take action, and probe to see if you can find an interested investor or one who will help build it. Your free to go and look and say that this patent is available, and it surely works. But Michael of Nebadon is telling me even now through another circuit, the entire matter for which WTP stands depends on the magnetosphere, Steven.

Michael of Nebadon  
The magnetosphere is being very week again. The magnetosphere, for those of you who don't know what it is, is a dome of electrified air that the sun causes when it hits our atmosphere. It shears of gamma rays, muons, electrons, a lot of other junk I don't even know about, and it drops them on to the earth for grounding. They disappear into the dirt, because it rains these preparticles out of it. What WTP does is it collects the electrons that fall out of the dome. We put it on a wire and feed generators. And the generators feed a little thing invented, called a transducer. The transducer converts the electron to a muon and the muon forms a daisy. That is one muon in the middle and five pedals, each pedal being a muon. That is what it's transmitted. Now, when the magnetosphere starts to misbehave, it doesn't drop as many electrons. So we're adding two generators that add electrons and convert them to muons. The transmitting tower doesn't know the difference between the ones that came from the magnetosphere, and the ones that came from our generators. As a result, we resume operations, 24/7.

Now this. The trials that we must understand is that the core of this planet is supposed to be happy like glue. But it has turned itself into almost a peanut brittle, without the peanuts of course. And for that reason, it does not move around in the cavern, in the center of the Earth the way it used to. For that reason, we're beginning to doubt that we always have a shower of electron. For that reason, Ron, I am allowing this to just sit and not look for any particular investor. Let's see what Federal Government or the State Government might do. We are now assured, as this Lightline has been most worthy, Ron, and I thank you for attempting it, even though you didn't know you had it.

Ron Besser  
Oh, that's thanks to some scheduling by another person, but I'm glad to fill in.

Michael of Nebadon  
Now, finally this to all nine of you now. We are aware that the cabal tried to attack you again, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Well, we had some silence while I tried to recover.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. For that reason, the cabal is totally withdrawn from Urantia. They are in confusion.

Ron Besser  
Ah, (coughing) Just a minute. ... I'm sorry about that. They hit my nose. There's still some here.

Michael of Nebadon  
Anyhow, this is Michael of Nebadon. The full authority that you have, Ron, is not diminished. Your Lightlines are excellent, they get to the point, and furthermore, I like doing them through you. Elise, that doesn't mean I don't like it through you. It just means that Ron is so easy.

In any case, the total income that you are facing Ron from the WTP in 20 years is about 1.3 trillion US dollars. You don't know what to do with all that.

Ron Besser  
Ha-ha. No, but my imagination goes wild with what a trillion is.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. The truth of the matter is a trillion is worth about one lifetime on Urantia, if you can get it right, and you have, Ron.

To the rest of you here, and there are now nine, we are going to ask you to stand with prayer and to help everyone in the Missions. As I'm talking to you, Ron, I am getting a message from the Universal Father. And that is respecting you and your care. You have seen to it that anytime someone requested you give an answer, you know what you're talking about, and that you are fairly well done even on the birth chart of Jesus.

Ron Besser  
I will publish the birth chart to the discussion form. If I can get it anywhere close guys. It is something to see. There's a lot of unfamiliar on it, but there's just enough on it to do an interpretation. And if I, if I can manage it with what I have recovered.

Michael of Nebadon  
I will interpret the birth chart of Jesus as though I'm giving a reading. It should be interesting. And finally this to all nine of you now, which is Steven, Elise, Krupa. Valerie. Jose, Raz, Charlotte from Alabama, and 1513 from the internet. Thank you for joining us. Now this I have nothing more. If you want to talk a little go ahead. I'll stay on the line. But if no one has anything more we'll shut it down. Go ahead.

Ron Besser  
Okay, I get the point. Get a Coke or a Pepsi or whatever, enjoy the rest of the day and thank you so much for attending.  

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