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General Discussion / Re: The mid-january meeting
« on: January 15, 2019, 08:32:08 PM »
@RonB, I delight in this type of discussion and applaud you for putting "transcendental (pre cause/pre creative) thinking' into a more workable perspective. You could not have done it more eloquently! Epochal revelation is the very key to unlocking this type of analytical thinking. Thank you! Wendy 


Occerpa you think deeply and I think well.  You are in my view attempting to understand the transcendental aspect of these Missions to Urantia, and you have it well but not the language for another one hundred to two hundred years.   I am giving you a peek behind your thoughts to tell you that, and that fact you can do it shows the Adjuster in you is really pulling out all the strings for you to play in transcendental thinking far before your time.

Let me pause a few moments and explain to the audience what transcendental thinking embraces.  It deals with what we call "PRE CAUSE;" that is, what happens before God acts to do a Mission with the perfection of purpose already in mind as to why He does it.   You address it quite well by pointing out that God in the case of Urantia, is beset with broken missions and then must reconfigure the broken passage ways back to the start of the problems that cause the other missions to fail.


Watch how God has to look past the carnage of the Lucifer Rebellion.  God is saying to Himself, "What got Lucifer so angry he had to teach God a lesson to get off his back?"  Then God must look at the beginning and translate not the effects of time but take a course for the cause Lucifer portrayed to start rebelling under what Lucifer, and we question this statement too, "decided was intolerable about divine process?"  Time is not involved at all in transcendental thinking, but motivation is, and we have yet to develop any language that removes that idea of time events to task and can assign the malevolency of Lucifer to self conditioning of himself over manufacturing a rebellion as a defense to save a part of the universe for himself from the rest of the universe?  This self conditioning of Lucifer from one kind of character to another type of character; i.e. from a loyal Son to a disloyal Son, is a search for some kind of precondition not seen on the surface of time causes.  And that kind of search is transcendental as it does not involve time except as evolution translates it into history.


You Occerpa deal thought now as to looking at Mission speak as a plan that had to originate pre cause and pre conditioning that lead to all we deal with now for the plans to approach today that somehow involves Ron Besser maybe turned into a super human that can handle twisted motivations of Lucifer.  Lucifer and his playmates now are well installed on Urantia in most of its people.  You and I cannot second guess the plan schemes motivation precisely,but we can look at the transcendental meaning of other plans God used on Urantia and why they failed and why this one will succeed using a precedence no one likes in spirit to do.   Spirit does not like holding hands with humans as one Mission, and then jump from their airplane with one parachute between them.  High spirit considers the plan mostly suicidal.  Local Universe Spirit holds it as at least a plan that has unknown consequences and looks to the Creator Son and the Paradise Trinity with Magisterial Sons to help. as usable if the human element is completely controlled.

Might I remind you Occerpa, I am totally human but angry?   Sound familiar to a transcendental thinker?  Lucifer defends not himself but the way the universe is ruled was an aberration based on the fact there was no Universal Father.  compare that drive to some of us who are angry at the way the epochal revelation on URANTIA is bungled.  Lucifer rebelled and started a civil war with get even anger.  Others on Urantia think too a war should be declared to get a divine Mission on Urantia to declare war righteously to clear mistake after mistake over the handling of epochal revelation meant to unlock Urantia spirit potential to eradicate the perpetuation of  default.


And you are right Occerpa, to ultimately believe that God adjusts epochal revelation through first belief, and then through the self proof of spirit attunement, and that is essentially what forum members have to adjust to themselves to get any sense out of this discussion forum.  This site reports the news first, then acts in ways to defend it with discussion questions and answers, and then leaves the forum member to their own thought devices to decide the validity as the importance for yet another Mission has had to rethink it self into the just right approach to our endless mistakes about the sense behind life origins and what it has to do to be successful.

These explanations are like your post, as this one and your post have to use time like language to explain planning that is transcendental and the transcendental is like a handful of water:  I defy you to hold any water in your hand long enough to fully drink of it.

Ron

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Discuss This Web Site / Re: What Is Your View of Idea Suggested Here?
« on: December 29, 2018, 05:35:06 PM »
Skype subscription/credits is an inexpensive option for international participants wanting to dial in to the US based conference number 1-857-216-6700


Wendy  as I noted I AM GOING TO AVOID other TECHNICAL MEANS TO PRODUCE THE CONTACTS THAT ARE SUFFICIENTLY DONE WITH VOICE alone. MY reasons are fairly simple.  Most people do not like to fool around with computer devices and setups at all because some people are just not adept at putting technology together.  But everyone can use a phone these days and people like me prefer landline phones at that.  That does not stop cell phones or I-phones to be used but we will be basic in operation enough all you need to tune in and talk over a simple phone device to do that.  I have other very good reasons too to avoid Skype and its proposed wonders for video which is a separate problem to me and the universe I do not discuss easily here.  I thank you for reminding me that this service can use Skype, but at least for now, it will not at this time.  Thanks.   RON

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Music Compositions And Other Artistic Expressions / Re: Art inspired by God
« on: December 25, 2018, 03:13:18 PM »
@Carmin, I thank you for sharing your own painting. I see great works still to come from you and pray you continue expressing your God given talent. You may be familiar with the Dutch artist  M.C. Escher. I notice some inspirational similarities in your works. Wendy

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@Merovingian, I will take your bait as it appears you have to come here to stir your own mind and assess your motives. I am interested to learn, exactly what are you hoping to gain or offer from your participation on this forum? 

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@Merovingian, Synchronicity of Divine Will is well encouraged here. Such is the Voice of God that speaks through many on this forum.

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AUDIO TAPE Transmissions Here / Re: Audio Transmission / Welcome the new
« on: November 17, 2018, 03:22:38 AM »
Thank you deeply loved and valued Lemuel. You speak for us all. Wendy

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General Discussion / Re: Tips on Public Speaking
« on: November 12, 2018, 01:37:33 AM »
@SueW, I highly recommend Toastmasters. https://www.geelongtoastmasters.org/

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@RonB, my loner status observation is perfectly correct, despite my office resembling a train station most days. Wendy

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New Members Forum/Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello my dear brothers
« on: November 08, 2018, 05:32:31 PM »
@LarryG, I chuckle at "Oh, you are one of Ron Besser's." Not a bad 'one' to be associated with :) 

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@RonB, as I understand, the attempted suicide melee is symbolic to what we, children of Urantia, are doing to this planet and ourselves. It is a gruesome and most tragic image playing out. The reference to a 'collective insanity' is most fitting in reflection of the horrors being committed. Wendy

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@Amethyst, read 'Motions that Soul goes through' again. There is a genuine service we Transmitters can deliver to those who feel lost or abandoned, currently hanging around the Grid. I recently spoke with a young mother, whose two children passed away in the 1800's after contracting the fever (typhoid) in the region I now live. You will find some need only a little comfort and encouragement to journey on, albeit it from us. Wendy

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FUSION TALK / Fused Mortal Corp of Urantia
« on: October 25, 2018, 04:46:12 AM »
MARGUL - TRINITY TEACHER SON
October 25th, 2108

"I am MARGUL and ask you all to pay close attention to what is being shared with you as it comes hot off the press.
Wendy, repeat my exact words as delivered to you this morning.

The Narrative of the Fused Mortal Corp of Urantia is being written as we speak. The significance of this unprecedented group, limited in number, will be elaborated on in due course. Each member will have a hand in adding their own unique contribution to the makings and functioning of the Fused Mortal Corp of Urantia.

This is enough for now. MARGUL."

END



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@RonB, And now I know who to blame from my illustrious height and cork blowing short fuse! Thank you for the delicious genealogy treat. May I have more, please? :) Napoleon revered the Divinity of Christ and I sincerely agree with Napoleon's own expression of this love and admiration for Him. I have much in common with my great....... grandpappy. Wendy

Napoleon expressed the following thoughts while he was exiled on the rock of St. Helena. There, the conqueror of civilized Europe had time to reflect on the measure of his accomplishments. He called Count Montholon to his side and asked him, "Can you tell me who Jesus Christ was?" The count declined to respond. Napoleon countered:

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    Well then, I will tell you. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne and I myself have founded great empires; but upon what did these creations of our genius depend? Upon force. Jesus alone founded His empire upon love, and to this very day millions will die for Him. . . . I think I understand something of human nature; and I tell you, all these were men, and I am a man; none else is like Him: Jesus Christ was more than a man. . . . I have inspired multitudes with such an enthusiastic devotion that they would have died for me . . . but to do this is was necessary that I should be visibly present with the electric influence of my looks, my words, of my voice. When I saw men and spoke to them, I lightened up the flame of self-devotion in their hearts. . . . Christ alone has succeeded in so raising the mind of man toward the unseen, that it becomes insensible to the barriers of time and space. Across a chasm of eighteen hundred years, Jesus Christ makes a demand which is beyond all others difficult to satisfy; He asks for that which a philosopher may often seek in vain at the hands of his friends, or a father of his children, or a bride of her spouse, or a man of his brother. He asks for the human heart; He will have it entirely to Himself. He demands it unconditionally; and forthwith His demand is granted. Wonderful! In defiance of time and space, the soul of man, with all its powers and faculties, becomes an annexation to the empire of Christ. All who sincerely believe in Him, experience that remarkable, supernatural love toward Him. This phenomenon is unaccountable; it is altogether beyond the scope of man's creative powers. Time, the great destroyer, is powerless to extinguish this sacred flame; time can neither exhaust its strength nor put a limit to its range. This is it, which strikes me most; I have often thought of it. This it is which proves to me quite convincingly the Divinity of Jesus Christ. 

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@Julio, I echo your sentiments with respect to preparedness. Just this very morning my Adjuster instructed me get better acquainted with 'wartime recipes' and to order powdered eggs for my stockpile immediately. May the blessing of "The Widow's Olive Oil' rest on all our homes. Wendy

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: 360 Degrees of God
« on: October 19, 2018, 02:19:43 AM »
@Amethyst, if these be the last words I read before I leave Urantia, then all is well with my soul. Thank you for the transmission. Love, Wendy

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