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TRANSLATIONS / 17.3.2024 - Nie chcemy was niepokoić
« Last post by Andre_P on March 17, 2024, 10:42:03 am »
Ta sama wiadomość po angielsku :
https://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=21136.msg102968#msg102968
Podał : Rene A Duran, członek bohater
Kategoria / Temat : LIGHTLINE PO HISZPAŃSKU DLA WSZYSTKICH / NIE CHCEMY WAM ROBIĆ ALARMU
« 15 marca 2024 r., godz. 19:04:46 »

Grupa 11:21 - Przekazywanie prawd, Phoenix, Arizona

NIE CHCEMY WAM ROBIĆ ALARMU

Od OJCA WSZECHŚWIATA
Przekazujący : Nestor
Salwador, 13 marca 2024 r., godz. 22:33


Ojciec Wszechświata :
"W istocie tu wasz Uniwersalny Ojciec z przesłaniem do ludzkości. Jesteśmy w sytuacji kryzysowej na poziomie planetarnym i chcemy ostrzec ludzkość, żeby była czujna na katastrofy, które mogą się wydarzyć, ponieważ istnieją problemy z jądrem planety Urantii.

Nie chcemy was niepokoić, ale warto podjąć środki ostrożności. Przy kilku okazjach powiedziano wam, że ta planeta jest dość zniszczona i nie funkcjonuje dobrze. W każdej chwili może nastąpić katastrofa, a sugestia, podobnie jak przy innych okazjach, brzmi : Przygotujcie się z jedzeniem i wodą. W najgorszym przypadku rozważana byłaby ogólnoświatowa ewakuacja.

Z drugiej strony Niebiańska Rodzina jest gotowa na każdy przypadek. Istnieją brygady gotowe na sytuacje nadzwyczajne, ale w przypadku ewakuacji konieczne byłoby uratowanie tylko tych ludzi, którzy wciąż mają możliwość zmiany. Byłaby duża większość, której wydawałaby się : "To nie jest pierwsze ostrzeżenie, które zostało wydane, ani ostatnie". Tu wasz Uniwersalny Ojciec. Opuszczam to miejsce. Życzę wam szczęśliwej nocy."

Koniec

Nestor
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TRANSLATIONS / 17.3.2024 - Wezwanie
« Last post by Andre_P on March 17, 2024, 10:00:54 am »
Ta sama wiadomość po angielsku :
https://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=21135.msg102967#msg102967
Podał : Rene A Duran, członek bohater
Kategoria / Temat : LIGHTLINE PO HISZPAŃSKU DLA WSZYSTKICH / WEZWANIE
« 15 marca 2024 r., godz. 18:58:55 »

Grupa 11:21 - Przekazywanie prawd, Phoenix, Arizona

WEZWANIE

Od JEZUSA Z NAZARETU
Odebrane przez Néstora
Salwador, 14 marca 2024 r., godz. 23:21


Jezus z Nazaretu :
"W istocie tu Jezus z Nazaretu z przesłaniem dla ludzkości Urantii, moich ukochanych dzieci. To bardzo bolesne dla mnie widzieć, że nie rozumiecie, że jesteście w poważnym niebezpieczeństwie. Ta planeta nie wytrzymuje już złego traktowania przez ludzi i zaczęła się buntować. Ta planeta wycierpiała zbyt wiele i nie chce już być dalej poniewierana. Jeśli nie zmienicie swojego nastawienia, to zginiecie, ponieważ ona już zaczęła się trząść, a trzęsienia ziemi i fale pływowe będą coraz silniejsze.

To sprawia, że jesteśmy bardzo smutni tutaj, po drugiej stronie zasłony, widząc tę ludzkość zbliżającą się do urwistych brzegów, gdzie zginą, jeśli nie nauczą się szanować życia we wszystkich jego przejawach, zaczynając od istot, które wydają się im najbardziej nieistotne. Jeśli nie będziecie w stanie kochać i szanować planety, na której żyjecie, będziecie musieli nauczyć się tej trudnej i strasznej lekcji.

My, Niebiańska Rodzina, nie będziemy mieli innego wyboru, jak tylko obserwować ostateczną katastrofę, w której większość tej ludzkości zginie.

Wzywam was, moje dzieci, żebyście zmienili swoje nastawienie, porzucili przemoc i kochali się nawzajem jak bracia, którymi jesteście. Porzućcie grzech i szukajcie u mnie schronienia. Czekam na was z otwartymi ramionami, moje ukochane dzieci. Tu Jezus z Nazaretu. Wycofuję się. Niech mój pokój będzie z wami. Odpoczywajcie dobrze."

Koniec

Nestor
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Thank you for your views, Occerpa.  I happen to agree with you in asserting that free electricity will change the world if all people have access to it, and that has to be eventually due to expense mostly.


The United States has huge resources at its finger tips but the States also have a drug problem and an historical issue called State's rights, supposedly settled by the American Civil War 1861 - 1865.  The Confederacy (the South and who the Washington government had to fight bloody battles over this) never learned properly that it had less rights than it assumed it held, and as a result they are today great Trump fans and will bite the dust bitterly again when the Federal Government seizes a State capital too and holds them liable for rebellion.  I for one have no dog in that fight, but I tire of men trying to lord it over women over reproductive rights and God the Father has ruthlessly let it known that abortion is not the fight or the question, but the rights of a human being to use his, her body as his (or her) to determine for themselves.  Short of a solider using his or her  body attempting sedition against the spiritual rule, women have to claim the high ground and stop picking fights with lawyers and learn what Christ decreed in his Bestowal:  "Thou shalt not proceed with the habiliments of truth until their is respect for the truth and the truth  seeker and its ways with body and soul.  I do not think people really understand what Christ meant for we now have legal fights on what women perceive as their rights to protect their body integrity.


In writing my book ORIGINS,  I did as a side inquiry ask just what was the authority of any person to determine what right the fetus may have.  I was replied to by the FATHER himself, and he said affirmatively, :the life of the mother has priority.  That is all he said, for to speak to individual searches for the right way to conduct morality, is that moral actions must take place within the individual and not be assigned to an individual from spiritual adjudication out side of the limits of the spiritual indwelling in every mind.


To me that assigns moral turpitude to the individual who must make those moral decisions, and that the law protects such individuals so long as their is no immorality.  I doubt the causes for abortion are not excluded from immoral acts, but at the same time the question is not the morality, but the rights of the fetus.  I doubt  the truth of the fetus rights will be listened to but I do not think it has any rights until the fetus is a person on the planet imploring the use  of the mores.  But now let me get t o thw WTP issue you raise Occerpa.


WTP is a tough nut to crack and I have learned it unhappily.  There are too many chiefs in the kitchen over the issue, and we have to wait until there is a sea change over what constitutes  true science.  I see no county inquiring about the patent, nor do I see much conversation on this board about the need for free electricity, except for people like you who hold it as important as I do.  However, MACHIVENTA MELCHIZEDEK insists I lay low, and speak no more than I have to.  Machiventa also interdicts what I have said so far on the forum as I posted a lot of gravity only to learn foreign readers have no respect for a dissemination which thinks Leptons have no role to play in any high degree of discoveries, and mock my choice of words that Leptons have a place to play in any important changes to preparticle theory.  That will cost them shortly, but I could care less over views that are so limited I doubt they help the science of the near future that we know ultimatons are now flashing a warning to preparticle issues today.  I do not know, Occerpa, what the warnings are about in matter, but the planet's integrity is surely involved deeply and that integrity could relocate our species on a more friendly planet if the earth core does not settle down by mixing our magnetosphere in with atomic preparticles which are so explosive we will pay a big price if  they get more known and used by natural forces which have to use them as ingredients to  refresh this planet and what resources are left.


Well, you might say, we always have fish.  Something to eat is still available then, but I am also talking about metals and land and earth;s atmosphere.  The ultimatons are flashing yellow rods very much, and the normal ultimaton has blue rods and they began flashing yellow just recently.  Further it is only in the last eight years man is dissolving his patience with democratic government.  They are not supposed to be related, and in normal times  they are not related, but the powers to be in spirit have little respect for an earth population that has more to say about sewage than about God, and that the Vatican in Rome sits so empty again.  Traditions are unimportant when social changes obviate  the need to speak of God and then mostly use the confomity of ceremony to cover over default in precious reviews of the prayerful life.


WTP is the poor man's dream but the oil mans disfavor and doubt it is possible to ease his conscience.  I am not happy to learn that no one understands preparticles as they should, and I am not going to make a charity out of myself to give it away to see if someone cares to try it without my expense to engineer it and run it.  I am open fully to discuss WTP's issues and its proposed compliance with introducing it to the movers and shakers of mankind, but a lot more has to happen before man understands what can be done with preparticles he has yet to discover.  We here have to discovered one invention that should be used at once, but go whistle in the dark until someone finds the light switch to look at free electricity and to  find it is imminently available and doable.  


Thanks for your post Occerpa.
Ron Besser
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Convinced that the WTP project is perhaps the most revolutionary and beneficial that has been conceived on this planet, and faced with the incredible delay in its implementation with the proper patent 11601013 more than a year ago, supposedly due to lack of financing in the USA , which contrasts with the fact of the data on the monstrous sums invested in war material (each missile 1 million dollars) to murder other human beings, I think it is time for Ron to start, as André already proposed, to knock on doors in other latitudes.  If it were taken into account above all, to provide a service to those most in need, this saving and merciful invention should be implemented preferentially in our countries of the so-called third world, where there are still in the middle of the third millennium, localities that they don't know electric light.  And how miraculous would WTP be for us here in Colombia, when we are currently suffering from a phenomenon of ruthless increase due to the supply of a service that is also of poor quality with frequent reasoning;  As the saying goes: "Dreaming costs nothing."  In any case, I consider it very unfair that this development designed to provide almost free electricity is provided, in the first place, to the country that perhaps requires it the least.
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Ron, you are reaching far and praise for that, many of us on the forum are trying to do it with you, if we can.

I wrote above what came to my mind, but I know that if a competition was announced to implement a WTP demonstration plant, there might not be anyone from all over the world who would apply.

We know how this world works and what tried and tested methods opponents have and how easy it is to turn people's heads.

We all know about the burning at the stake of scientific discoverers and the "fairy tales" about the existence of little worms - bacteria.

It should be remembered that the Inquisition began in the Middle Ages, but it survived the glorious eras of the Renaissance and Enlightenment, and the last witches were burned not so long ago.

Everyone knows that many important organizations are set up to grant academic and professional powers and titles, but not everyone knows that they are also able to take these powers and titles away from disobedient exceptions who violate the interests and beliefs of these organizations.

Now we are in times of a very hardened rule of money.

Often inventions were introduced by the inventors themselves, but Nikola Tesla did not win over Edison and the people who supported him, who knew how to make big money from it.

To test something you have to try it, even try to involve more the initiators from above.

Your country is a great opportunity, but also a great machine.

So let's not lose hope that we will see this and keep trying, because this is an important issue for this globe and some of its users.

Forgive the perhaps too general and abstract style, but that's the mood I'm in, and I can't say anything about your fresh presentations of the new physics.

Andre
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Hemos  leído sus enfoques sobre preparticulas y nos parece interesante, siga adelante Sr.Ron Besser, la nueva ciencia se asoma. 
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THE SPANISH LANGUAGE LIGHTLINE FOR ALL / "THE REMEMBER OF SELF"
« Last post by Rene A Duran on March 15, 2024, 19:12:34 pm »
Group 11:21 Transmission of Truths Phoenix AZ.

 "THE REMEMBER OF SELF"

 By: The Universal Father.
 Transmit: Nataly.

 El Salvador, March 12, 2024, 2:00 a.m.

 The Universal Father:
 "I Am your Universal Father assisting your call with a message for humanity. The memory of self allows us to monitor the actions of daily life, humanity has forgotten to approach and obey the subtle calls of its inner being"

 "We invite you to get in tune, to establish communication with your Universal Father that you have forgotten for so long. We invite you to enter the point, for those who wish to begin work on themselves; you can find that energy of motivation, which guide me to the goal"

 "We are thousands of beings who are attentive to the slightest call, for help or communication, that any of my children requests"

 "My children, for millennia we have waited for you and the opportunity is open for anyone who wishes to begin their inner work. I wish success to all my children who decide to begin their ascension. On this side of the veil we rejoice for those who make the decision. to return home"

 "I Am the Universal Father stepping back."

 End.

 Nataly 
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THE SPANISH LANGUAGE LIGHTLINE FOR ALL / "WE DON'T WANT TO ALARM YOU"
« Last post by Rene A Duran on March 15, 2024, 19:04:46 pm »
Group 11:21 Transmission of Truths Phoenix AZ.

 "WE DON'T WANT TO ALARM YOU"

 By: THE UNIVERSAL FATHER
 Transmitter: Nestor
 El Salvador, March 13, 2024, 10:33 p.m.

 The Universal Father:
 "In effect, I am your Universal Father with a message for humanity, we are in an emergency on a planetary level and we want to warn humanity to be alert to the catastrophes that may happen, since there are problems with the core of the planet Urantia"

 "We do not want to alarm you, but it is worth taking precautions, on several occasions you have been told that this planet is quite deteriorated and is not functioning well, a catastrophe can occur at any time and the suggestion, as on other occasions, is: prepare yourselves." with food and water, in the worst case scenario a worldwide evacuation would be considered."

 "On the other hand, the Celestial Family is ready for any case, there are brigades ready for emergencies, but in the event of an evacuation it would be necessary to rescue only the people who still have the possibility of change, there would be a large majority that would seem, "It is not the first warning that has been made, nor the last, I am your Universal Father leaving this stand, have a happy night."

 End.

 Nestor.
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THE SPANISH LANGUAGE LIGHTLINE FOR ALL / "EXHORTATION"
« Last post by Rene A Duran on March 15, 2024, 18:58:55 pm »
Group 11:21 Transmission of Truths Phoenix AZ.

 "EXHORTATION"

 By: JESUS OF NAZARETH.
 Transmitter: Néstor.
 El Salvador, March 14, 2024, 11:21 p.m.

 Jesus of Nazareth:
 "In effect, I am Jesus of Nazareth with a message for the humanity of Urantia, my beloved children. It is very painful for me to see that you do not understand, that you are in grave danger, this planet no longer supports the mistreatment that humans give it and has "has begun to rebel, this planet has suffered too much and is no longer willing to continue being abused. If they do not change their attitude, they will perish, since it has already begun to shake and the earthquakes and tidal waves will become increasingly stronger."
               
 "It makes us very sad here on the other side of the veil to see this humanity approaching the cliffs where they will perish if they do not learn to respect life in all its manifestations, starting with the beings that seem most insignificant to them until they can love and respect the planet where they live, they will have to learn this hard and terrible lesson"

 "We, the Celestial Family, will have no choice but to observe the final catastrophe where most of this humanity will perish."

 "I urge you, my children, to change your attitude, leave violence and love each other as the brothers you are, abandon sin and seek my shelter, I await you with open arms, my beloved children, I am Jesus of Nazareth taking a step back, may my peace be with you, may you have a good rest."

 End.

 Nestor.
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Well yes, Andre.  I operate on that idea too, but add to your analysis above, that science makes it  clear it is impossible given what they ascertain is the correct view of preparticles.  We seriously disagree with most scientists when they insist on the quantum theory include the idea of a past big bang explosion.  There never was such a thing ever.


In truth, the preparticle itself indicates a subtle withdrawal of reason in the mind of man of a rational explanation that preparticles come preformed as part of the cosmic, shall we say?  WIND?  I am here to tell you that the preparticle is formed nearby, but the seed of any preparticle you can find is actually the result of a prematerial (existential)  decision to obligate matter to accept a process to design its presence and itself as an afterthought not, but to provide energy conversions into  matter as the direct result of a fiat explanation to start a moon or a human planet when it is needed, and not a chaotic situation at all.  The evidence is all about us about predecisions  affecting us in prematter, and no science is capable of examining that based on just science.  The severely indicates that a new department of study should someday come into existence on just how the amalgamation of matter and mind work to cohere human planets to raise humans to serve the Paradise Trinity for its outreach.  That is a whole 'nother precept to reason with.


Andre, you know just enough to understand the diatribe of versions of thought which go along with my examination of the muon.  The muon is an extraordinary example of a preparticle world of change and flux, but it will never divulge the secret of antigravity until science finally learns that all the toys it employs to prove the sustenance that God or deep space, is the actual provider of the finished preparticle.  That is not true, and time and space is almost a dumping ground for a materialization of energy used to provide homes and places on behalf of Master Universe development.


Science has no idea the Master Universe exists.  It calmly asserts that there is time, and that space is deep and cold or hot depending what part of it you are in.  The big bang is partially asserted by taking the radiation of the galaxy we are in and its partial collapse by a huge explosion when its (our ancestral galaxy) collapsed.  Science is hundreds of years away from knowing that because they depend on sensing instruments which do not probe beyond the confines of the Milky Way.  We are in an abnormal piece of space due to the collapse of nearby galaxies, and that is not a normal situation for the rest of the universe.  Man jumps to conclusions based on the radiation of galactic and provisional conditions we dare not examine further here.


You and I are not proponents of upsetting science's theories today, as it is a useless job, but at the same time we are voices about logical sanity probably based on a better theory that there is thought involved in creation.  Science does not believe that, and to believe what we do is not mixing religion with science, but ascertaining that thought is in control of all gravity systems without thinking too hard how.  I dare not overstate this particle of heart and soul (me) is going to change anything by introducing how using the muon to electrify the world so easily that we also introduce cold fission idea as true with it too.  


At least some of us look at a mature thought that universe development is not based even on preparticles, but on the will of existential thinking at impossibly high levels, that we could ever convince most scientists they have to pay attention to Origins to understand time and space.  Time and space as an object can be modified to be understood as a place with depth and eventuating steps, one by one, to learn our true situation as to our Origins and our Place.  But that is probably centuries away if we do not embrace the idea of empiricism is subject to creation as well.


Our muon dissertations are smiling at me too, as they are correct, but woefully inadequate to teach the mind of man anything is different from what they already thought.  I happen to believe that many who do read what I have written bring to their faces a smile and understanding this whole thing is delusional.  Such is not true, but I am rather impatient with the idea that delusional behavior runs the universe either, and that you and I and others fail to recognize there is more to science than a lab.


And finally Andre, use your best influence to allow this thing to settle in your own mind:  man is never sure what he is in the first place; secondly,  man holds no honors when he refuses to participate in discovery due to the excuse there is too much super structure to replace to accept the revelation of a new way at looking at  creation.  Muons are but one preparticle type that will confound man for a long time and I am happy to leave the scene having discovered a new science this is, Andre.  

The new science is to look at materialization of matter as preliminary to the appearance of man entirely, and that should reset quite a few think tanks back on their heels when they realize that mankind appears as an inevitable consequence of material and matter being present in layer after layer of the construction of the Master Universe,  for what?  we will never know fully.


Thanks for your post.

Ron Besser

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