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Michael of Nebadon

The CHRIST RETURNS  (ANNOUNCED 17 January 2018)
York, Pennsylvania at 1030am Local Time
January 17, 2018

“I am announcing quickly for now:

“Christ returns to Urantia in about six weeks.  This places that appearance about mid February this year of 2018.  It will be near the York area for publication of the announcement and the appearance of Jesus there in some manner.

“We rebuild those buildings Ron showed you in pictures at
http://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=9796.msg64100#msg64100


“I make this announcement shortly after receiving a cup of coffee from the Father this morning and it was so fantastic I could hardly wait for Ron to become conscious again and to let you all know what is being favored here today.

“I close this quickly because now we must arrive in York with no fanfare and clear those buildings for our occupancy and then leave you all to gauge what will happen when Ron takes his Oath of Service in the building he calls “L shaped” in those two photos.  The castle across the street is just as impressive as it was when they built it in 1878 and not 1873 as Ron reported.  It will be MOVED down the street and Ron suggested a grassy plaza with a large spray of water in it and I suggest that it be used for another building we will built even more impressive than the castle you see there now.  Good day.  Michael of Nebadon.”
END

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First Office Steps For York PA for The Magisterial Mission
York, PA 1230PM Local Time
January 15, 2018

MARGUL, TRINITY TEACHER SON SPEAKS:

“I am speaking off the Mount of Jerusem this morning because we have a special guest.  I dare not name him as you will never meet him but the higher authorities use him to understand the attitude of the Father on Paradise.

“He is the Father in personal form visiting Michael of Nebadon to discuss the Magisterial Mission about to erupt on Urantia in a few short weeks.  We have assigned March 10, 2018 as the official start of the Magisterial Mission and that it remains, but Serara has already assigned to Ron his view of what will be done immediately even before March 10th noted above.

“It seems Sue missed a cue which Ron reminded her to look at again.  He asked the right questions to a transmitter who is quite good but she thinks in spurts and misses pertinent cues otherwise.  Let this remind you Sue to keep your thought processes alive and stop when you feel alerted and do not pass it by until you sense you have to as happened in this case.

“The Visitor is available as a speaker now.


IMMANUEL SPEAKS FOR THE FATHER ENTITY -

“I am Immanuel, and I arrive to train these Melchizedeks how to use God the Supreme in administration.  Ron knows how tough this is when he used some of it months ago and was very glad to give it up as it was harsh and basic training in its ways.  Ron will not be subject to that administration at first but will later be forced to use it as the Planetary Supreme will work with Ron for days to train his mind to the business at hand and stop worrying about money and house appearance and so on as all of that is being tended to for him now on high. 

“I affirm that the offices in York, Pennsylvania, will be ready in a short while as we intend to take the entire north-west quadrant of the former square of York, Pa., and make our offices resplendent once more in what has become a very dull little town/city.

“Larry and Lemuel will not arrive in York until we have the offices ready to use and we intend to take the entire building for our use and they will move gladly once we have them moving at all.  Our work is to provide York and the State of Pennsylvania a new lease on life and the Mayor of York, one named mayor elect, Michael Helfrich.  Be assured we are going to clean house and that means that Ron’s office as the Minister of the Interior will have not only its own floor but the top floor as an office used by the public.  In it will be Lemuel and Larry Gossett and Sue Whiley and Wendy Winter.

“Now I have made myself clear on who goes where but have not indicated who fills the first three floors.  The first floor will have a first class restaurant. The second floor is the grand conference room already wired for televison, radio, and internet streaming.  This is where the present York Council meets and they will be moved with the Mayor elsewhere.


“The Second Floor is also for Melchizedek offices as are third floor offices for Mantutia and the Magisterial Sons and their Guests, and the while the first floor will have a snazzy restaurant in it, it is also large enough for shops we will install for souvenirs and other things the public can buy to take home with them.  The new offices cover about all of the northwest quadrant of a circular square once upon a time, and it will be restored to its former grandeur of a round square and lots of tall building in the southeast quadrant where big banks and one of two Court Houses now resides.

“Our work commences soon and you believe it is one of the best ever jobs you will ever have had as it is everything with perfect direction and no money problems as you experienced with every civil engineering firm you worked for as that is the nature of that business.  We work to save the planet and it starts in your back yard Ron.


MICHAEL OF NEBADON

“I affirm all of this news today.  I also affirm the pain problem for Ron is ending tonight again and this time for good.  We see tears of gratitude flow as it has been awful but it is ending now.

“Ron made an impassioned plea  after Lemuel broadcast Majeston in an audio tape today.  Go look at it for your own information and this should answer Bryan_G’s vitriolic attack on Ron this morning and who was removed for now until he cools down.  Ron did experience hacking into our normal communication system and Majeston now insures no one can do it any more. Go read it.

“Finally, all of you must congratulate Dominick this morning as he now sees what is really going on with Ron and wishes him all the best, and that is because Dominick reached out to Ron after the attack was sent to the list by Bryan_G whom Ron still thinks is very important to take on unless he cannot be cured of a paranoia that swoons his mind when he does not eat right and so.  Dominick now knows he has a chance to come to York if he fails not to fuse, and Ron rightly predicted that so long as Dominick proceeds as he does now it is possible to have another fused human to work for the Magisterial Mission with the others who have fused to date from one to three years from now.  Quite a heady experience for one so young yet.  In any case we close this and our visitor from Paradise who shall remain nameless will report to out transmitters too.  Sue you watch out what names you transmit without asking if they are new!  Good day. 

END Speakers: Margul, Trinity Teacher Son; Immanuel of Salvington; Michael of Nebadon; and indirectly, The FATHER through the unnamed Entity -
MESSAGE TO BOARD: First Office Steps  at 1230PM 011518
York, PA

MARGUL, TRINITY TEACHER SON SPEAKS:

“I am speaking off the Mount of Jerusem this morning because we have a special guest.  I dare not name him as you will never meet him but the higher authorities use him to understand the attitude of the Father on Paradise.

“He is the Father in personal form visiting Michael of Nebadon to discuss the Magisterial Mission about to erupt on Urantia in a few short weeks.  We have assigned March 10, 2018 as the official start of the Magisterial Mission and that it remains, but Serara has already assigned to Ron his view of what will be done immediately even before March 10th noted above.

“It seems Sue missed a cue which Ron reminded her to look at again.  He asked the right questions to a transmitter who is quite good but she thinks in spurts and misses pertinent cues otherwise.  Let this remind you Sue to keep your thought processes alive and stop when you feel alerted and do not pass it by until you sense you have to as happened in this case.

“The Visitor is available as a speaker now.


IMMANUEL SPEAKS FOR THE FATHER ENTITY -

“I am Immanuel, and I arrive to train these Melchizedeks how to use God the Supreme in administration.  Ron knows how tough this is when he used some of it months ago and was very glad to give it up as it was harsh and basic training in its ways.  Ron will not be subject to that administration at first but will later be forced to use it as the Planetary Supreme will work with Ron for days to train his mind to the business at hand and stop worrying about money and house appearance and so on as all of that is being tended to for him now on high. 

“I affirm that the offices in York, Pennsylvania, will be ready in a short while as we intend to take the entire north-west quadrant of the former square of York, Pa., and make our offices resplendent once more in what has become a very dull little town/city.

“Larry and Lemuel will not arrive in York until we have the offices ready to use and we intend to take the entire building for our use and they will move gladly once we have them moving at all.  Our work is to provide York and the State of Pennsylvania a new lease on life and the Mayor of York, one named mayor elect, Michael Helfrich.  Be assured we are going to clean house and that means that Ron’s office as the Minister of the Interior will have not only its own floor but the top floor as an office used by the public.  In it will be Lemuel and Larry Gossett and Sue Whiley and Wendy Winter.

“Now I have made myself clear on who goes where but have not indicated who fills the first three floors.  The first floor will have a first class restaurant. The second floor is the grand conference room already wired for televison, radio, and internet streaming.  This is where the present York Council meets and they will be moved with the Mayor elsewhere.


“The Second Floor is also for Melchizedek offices as are third floor offices for Mantutia and the Magisterial Sons and their Guests, and the while the first floor will have a snazzy restaurant in it, it is also large enough for shops we will install for souvenirs and other things the public can buy to take home with them.  The new offices cover about all of the northwest quadrant of a circular square once upon a time, and it will be restored to its former grandeur of a round square and lots of tall building in the southeast quadrant where big banks and one of two Court Houses now resides.

“Our work commences soon and you believe it is one of the best ever jobs you will ever have had as it is everything with perfect direction and no money problems as you experienced with every civil engineering firm you worked for as that is the nature of that business.  We work to save the planet and it starts in your back yard Ron.


MICHAEL OF NEBADON

“I affirm all of this news today.  I also affirm the pain problem for Ron is ending tonight again and this time for good.  We see tears of gratitude flow as it has been awful but it is ending now.

“Ron made an impassioned plea  after Lemuel broadcast Majeston in an audio tape today.  Go look at it for your own information and this should answer Bryan_G’s vitriolic attack on Ron this morning and who was removed for now until he cools down.  Ron did experience hacking into our normal communication system and Majeston now insures no one can do it any more. Go read it.

“Finally, all of you must congratulate Dominick this morning as he now sees what is really going on with Ron and wishes him all the best, and that is because Dominick reached out to Ron after the attack was sent to the list by Bryan_G whom Ron still thinks is very important to take on unless he cannot be cured of a paranoia that swoons his mind when he does not eat right and so.  Dominick now knows he has a chance to come to York if he fails not to fuse, and Ron rightly predicted that so long as Dominick proceeds as he does now it is possible to have another fused human to work for the Magisterial Mission with the others who have fused to date from one to three years from now.  Quite a heady experience for one so young yet.  In any case we close this and our visitor from Paradise who shall remain nameless will report to out transmitters too.  Sue you watch out what names you transmit without asking if they are new!  Good day. 

END

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Discuss This Web Site / Bryan Banned 011518
« on: January 15, 2018, 12:24:33 PM »
January 15, 2018 at York Pa at noon local time

I am Michael.

We just banned Bryan_G until there is reckoning over the matter between him and the Magisterial Son Rayson.  Ron waited a long time to take my advice as he considers Bryan_G and to ban him a moral issue because Bryan is considered a working member on the science team that Rayson chairs to provide better graphical devices and drawings to explain universe workings.  Ron considers Bryan helpful and always read to decide how to change the posters or drawing you all like to receive.  We also have another problem in that the Rayson web site is locked and we cannot get access to it for now.

Let me return to the situation with Bryan.  Ron correctly guesses that Bryan has ingensted ingredients foreign to his mind and body.  The result is paranoia in the extreme as the post that was deleted showed signs of hallucination as Ron told someone in a private email when they spoke to what was going on.  The only way to restore good will and not dwell on untrue accusations from an unhappy member is to ban them and let their own health and sanity return and then see if they wish to continue on this site to make their sterling contributions to understanding our universe better and its potential.

Ron has also noted with great interest to me that we suddenly have a spate of unhappy campers who dwell on admin as the culprit in these doings.  Well not so as the culprit is disillusion of faith in all of them and Ron in admin understands perfectly well that the non appearance of the Magisterial Mission after so much expectations were forwarded to us in prayer and supplication.  But Bryan is a special case and we dare not explore the history that got him to go to Tobago, but it is germane to say he fled there under threat of arrest for something he did not do.  He is to be brought back to America and lead a perfectly normal life soon as living the hell he has had to in the Caribbean.

Before I turn this back over to Ron, I have this to say to Rayson and Ron together:

You both value Bryan but the tail must never wag the dog, but the dog must be assured the tail is worthy at the end for good balance in walking and running and saying how happy the dog may be for his master.  In any case Bryan_G is to be welcomed back once these difficulties are worked out between him and Rayson and Ron stands ready to put him back on the list in good graces.  We cannot have messages from a mentally deranged members for a day and it has been deleted to preserve a good garden appearance and no the mess Bryan made in the garden this morning.

I am Michael and I wish you a good day as usual and as well for all.


Ron - I was going to let this all lie until the real situation became clarified later today as I am now about to take a message for all under a new thread to be seen in an hour or two from now I hope.  I hope you all or some of you understand being Admin is no fun when something shakes too lose to keep the body politic operating well.  We are so fortunate that we have so few incidents of this kind of behavior I feel grateful to the powers on high to help us keep it that way.  Michael has chosen to let you know more than I wanted to be seen until I knew the story better, but the Creator Son has now lanced the boil that I considered unhealthy to allow to stay there myself.  Thank you all for your time and patience in dealing with another disruption to the otherwise excellent diplomatic ways of dealing with each other here.  

Admin/Ron

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Before you read the message below, I want to warn you that a great deal of new information is written below.  I caution you that the Trinity has made it clear to me that they are going to appear in the suit of Mantutia Melchizedek to guide me and a new office, a government office of the Magisterial Mission, that I will head in the material realm.

This may come something of a shock to you, but the Trinity with Michael and the Order of Melchizedek (Melchizedeks as an Order do the will of the Trinity), our personal Supervisor Mantutia Melchizedek, will guide me and the rest of you who work in the new Ministry of the Interior, a sub post to the Chief of the Magisterial Mission, Serara and Monjoronson jointly.

They say I will be appointed as the cabinet official who is the Minister of the Interior and my job and all those who work with me which includes Lemuel, Larry, and perhaps the ladies known as Wendy and a few others, will travel with me to meet government officials around the world.  You can read the details below, along with a lot of things I am being told on.

Here then is the transmission for your edification:

CARRY THE LIGHT
AN EXPOSITION BY MICHAEL OF NEBADON
JANUARY 14, 2018
YORK, PA 530PM LOCAL TIME
T/R RON BESSER


Let me explain something to all of you that Ron exudes perpetually.  He does not like being the limelight but he is a natural leader in spite of his mother being a recluse and his father running for political office all the time. His work is real and lasting but right now he feels like a seal without fish.  Did you ever hear of such a thing?  It means his natural relationships that he needs to live well are sealed off and he must play the sphinx today to avoide calamity in his own household and in the culture around him.   That is because so many people have no real regard for thought but for status and how they related to people who matter for work or for play as in sports.

Spirit loves calm waters and easy streets to negotiate life with for the future and for ascension.  Not all ascension careers are easy and Ron has made his so hard we wonder sometimes if he wants to ascend or direct a small space station on his own.  I doubt we could afford that for any ascender, but we made his ascension career a little easier by promising him to wait and be good and to lift the weight of a few tons on behalf of Urantia.  So be it, I said.

Now what has happened is that the Paradise Trinity is working to establish a kind of bank for Ron to work in to see to our funding and to our proscription to pay off the nation-state debts as those countries, including the United States, cannot afford to pay back that debt all at once but they might have to, and that is depending on how bad the crash is in a year or so.  But we are going to intervene and close the debt cycle once and for all,  even for the Americans who run everything for awhile and then disappear because their debt is astronomical and we will have them pay some of it back just to keep them busy.

We have the Trinity approving the cash flow already and we now see that Ron has been named by the Trinity to offer people sums of money in order to keep them out of bankruptcy in the city of York and other places.   In any case the deal is to move Ron to the front of the line to make sure people do not starve to death or die for lack of heat and so on.  The Trinity is sure he has the right stuff to do this, but he is not happy with people who cannot even figure out what day it is much less which day they got out of debt thanks to the help of the Magisterial Mission and its follow up Missions.

Let me speak to what I call the “follow-up missions.” 

These follow up missions are treble cleft songs to the base mission of fueling the world with righteousness again.  Ron says to me, please explain righteousness to me Michael as I am not entirely sure what righteousness is.  Well, simply put: justice is served.  Righteousness is Justice.

That said we will spread the word that debts are forgiven for signing on to cooperation with the Magisterial Mission.  Whole countries may do so and individuals may do so and that is so long they did not cause the problem in the first place.  Ron’s work among many other issues he has to take care of, is to visit people and nations and write a check before their eyes for what ails them and that is all I will say about them. 

Further more, and this is the Paradise Trinity speaking now:

The PARADISE TRINITY SPEAKS =

“I am Margul and insist on being quoted so the quote marks now appear.  We have decided Ron is the one individual on Urantia who could discharge these duties with flair and happiness to the people of the world.  Ron says now to me, ‘you mean you are going to personalize the debt riddance problem with a man of the realm who stands before my betters and pays them off?’

“”The answer is yes and yes and yes and let them swallow their pride when you arrive in a small boat called the Britannica which arrives at every airport with a Magisterial Mission Symbol on its tail rudder and speaks no language but English to the subjects who will learn to hear him speak it well and in a slight treble sound as that voice box is good but not deep.  He will be met at the airports to be greeted by foreign ministers and members of the State Department of the United States, as he is to be recognized as our Minister of the Interior, a special office to set him above other workers in the Missions themselves. 

“Ron enjoys hearing these things but he has no real idea just what it entails and we will have Mantutia give a binder called an SOP (Standard Operating Procedures), and then to study it for days if necessary as he will start life on in the Mission, first as Chief Counsel to the Urantia Book Foundation, and second as our Minister of the Interior which takes care of the revelatory issues on Urantia and sees to the debt riddance of nation states and people alike. 

“Further evidence indicates he has a special duty to find good relationships with all around the world to remember their hearts and souls to others who need their help too. 


“We close with the situation he faces at home now for your edification.  He laughs somewhat we honor him with so much but he can do it so well we have not other candidate, Be assured there is little left for all of you to imagine how all this gets done as Lemuel and Larry will be key players in the Minister of Interior’s Office.  That is likely the place we will use Wendy Winder and Nikki Bardon too, to serve as accountants and keepers of the flame of righteousness for Urantia, as we as the Trinity will operated from the Ministry of the Interior ourselves and Margul will have Mantutia deputized to resist Ron’s generosity.  This is Margul and good day to all for now.”



MICHAEL OF NEBADON -
“I have you know folks reminded me I was better off to make an appointment to see him if I wished to.  Thank you so much Ron.  We close with this offer to all of you who need to hear better when this thing hits the ground later this month.  We are tired of waiting too, and that is simply done on Ron with a small laugh of irony and we tell you this, this list is entirely too quiet for what is about to happen.  We watch to see the enthusiasm grow!”


That concludes what will be an ongoing transmission to update all of you on the pending Magisterial Mission maybe with a surprise or two thrown in not announced here,

END

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Speakers: Michael of Nebadon; Margul Trinity Teacher Son, Mantutia Melchizedek and by implication the Deity Absolute

Announcement: The Magisterial Mission Redoubt Restart
T/R Ron Besser
York, Pa at 02:30am  Local Time
January 14, 2018

We are announcing that the time for the Magisterial Mission is over and that the Magisterial Mission we originally proposed is to take place immediately.

This means the original plans for Serara, the Magisterial Son, are revised to include the human element as well as the original plans to use the Corporations that Ron built are included without changing anything at this point.

In about seventy-two hours from now the House that Jack built will be removed from Urantia and a new civilization put into its place.  This will reform nation state governments on Urantia and provide education for humans who are never sure what they are or who they are to trust anymore.

In doing this I am again reversing the entire order of what was proposed only a few short months ago and that is to provide no Phases but to provide one Magisterial Mission without going into different versions to provide backup for Paradise which has finally seen the light that all of you have been taken through the weeds of service and to have never had the satisfaction of service in spite of years of hanging on with faith and trials to your own selves.

I am rescinding, once more, the appearance of Jesus first and any announcement proposed with that individual in mind.  He is ready to serve as is Ron as are all of you and I am not asking for one iota of change until we hit something so hard we have to restock our choices as to how to proceed.  Now this:

I am asking Ron to find office space in the square of York and Mantutia will follow with money and choices he figures is best for Ron.  We want Ron to take the conference room used by the mayor and pay her to build one in her own administration building on South George Street.  You will all see that building in the future as the one building which was constructed to actually fit the architecture of York from the get go.

Finally, I am rescinding all work stations until we know precisely what we need and that affects all but Ron who is in York to piece together what we need to start this finally.  We are already so late that some of the better parcels of land we need to use as a headquarters have been sold on the open market and we dare not go further than to guess what acrage we need for the foreseeable future at this point.  Here is the Paradise Trinity to speak to this issue:


THE PARADISE TRINITY = MARGUL AS SPOKESMAN
MARGUL IS A TRINITY TEACHER SON AND SPEAKS AS THE TRINITY NEXT.
MARGUL -
“I am a Trinity Teacher Son who enjoys your representative Ron with gusto.  He is the one human who finds humor everywhere and makes us all laugh.  He as two terrible problems he tries to laugh about but finds it impossible to obtain any sense for those problems to happen at all.  This evening Ron went to lie on his bed for a few hours as the intensity of a headache and backache and arm and leg ache was overwhelming and he needed to take a load off his feet he says.  We surrounded him when he did this and tried to make sense for him that we were really there on a mission and we utterly failed to convince him anything important was happening.  Now though he is wide awake and the pains have remitted enough he listens well and what we tell him we now tell you:

“The Paradise Trinity is the boss of anything that happens in time space too.  It is infinite yet is able to deal with infinity as a secondary case and not let it get in the way.  Your hearts are totally misapplied in what has happened and I am here to set the record straight.  It is this:

“We are rescinding all plans for Jesus and for the Magisterial Mission as rearranged for the past year and one half.  We are now in the fifth epochal dispensation not and we are now in the sixth epochal dispensation now and for the far future.  Ron went to extraordinary work to figure out when all these dispensations happened as he considers them the foundation for what happens on Urantia schedule wise and for other reasons of state as, for example, how do we treat persons differently who fuse in different dispensations.  Ron, Lemuel, and Larry fused in the 5th epochal dispensation period.  Anyone who fuses now will have fused in the 6th epochal dispensation, 

“The Magisterial Mission is ready to go forth as originally proposed by Michael several years ago before we got all tied up in knots over Ron Besser serving in human form which has set a precedence, and how Larry and Lemuel managed to fuse under such difficult circumstances has also set two more precedents.  Now we find that Serara has laid the law down and shot the idea of Jesus first as ludicrous when the planet, as Ron said when asked about it, Jesus is never going to be appreciated for what he can do unless we have a real mess to clean up first.  We agree with this erudite human who finds friends everywhere but here on the list sometimes.

“In accordance with Trinity law, we asked the Father why not just revert the Magisterial Mission as it was presented to all of us in the spring of 2005 and 2006 when we suddenly had to change it because Paradise did not agree to let Ron serve on the Mission on Urantia as a human.  We then replanned it and made Ron go through morontial transition we had to redact, and that redaction caused severe pain all over his body because we had to flush out cells that grew well in him and revert him to normal human body cells.  In doing this we forgot about the mitochondria injected into his bones and he had severe swelling of the lymph glands and the circulatory system blanched lots of blood into his pelvis over and over.  He is one sick lad as a result of these misalignments and we are making amends by dispelling the early changes and reinstitution Ron back to the morontial cellular structure his mitochondria produces best at this point.

“We point out that the Magisterial Mission has been hounded by Paradise over Ron volunteering to work for the Magisterial Mission under any condition Serara and Michael insisted upon and he was surprised by the injection of mitochondria in October of 2010.  That failed and he was reinjected on October 5, 2011 and again on November 3, 2017 in order to keep his body from deteriorating to death.  Since then there has been nothing but pain and unwise remarks to the Trinity over what happened as he was not advised as to why all this was be redone again and the consequences are genuinely very painful for all to observe.  Now that we have gone over all of that let it be known that the Paradise Trinity prefers Ron to work on the morontial spheres of Mansion World four and five, but Michael says that would transfer Ron out of the Urantia Magisterial Mission to a quiet place he does not desire at all.  Now we have the crux of the matter and the Trinity took it upon themselves to see to it that Ron will have a place of quiet at home at 2709 Sunset Lane, and to let the chips fall there as they may fall.

“Further more, the Trinity has parted ways with Lemuel and Larry on two important points:

1) They are to remain as they are and to work from their respective homes until York is ready to start operations with Serara all over the world’

2) All shipments of currency and gold is not rescinded as Ron, Larry, and Lemuel will receive a salary starting the first of March this year.  They will be paid that salary directly into their bank accounts and none of you are to pay taxes on it until we figure out how to make you and York tax exempt.  Further more the trial to fix up 2709 Sunset Lane with offices and a meeting room is considered exempt under our decision not build anything right now and we will have Mantutia help decide what is to be done as fast as we can get this done with Ron at his home perhaps as early as the end of January 2018.

‘I am Margul and we will have more to say about all of this shortly and we will make much more available through Ron as he must be the one who decides how to operate with Mantutia, perhaps Wendy Winter Nikki Barton as accountants, before we bring anyone else to York as we must lay the foundation to work with and in for York and Ron at the same time.  Good day.”


MICHAEL OF NEBADON - CREATOR SON EXTRAORDINAIRE

“I am used to such high flying titles when I am writing but this time I make it clear and simple.  The trial for Ron has been so difficult and so suffocating we have never had a chance to thank him without him wincing from pain in sore feet and burning legs and feet without interruption for nearly two years now.   We are sure the eyesight problem is to be fixed shortly and that the burning soon enough and so on and that we are happy to see Ron wince at my characterization due to the length of time it takes him to get up in the morning until he finally falls in bed after midnight all the time.  He has friends galore but they say nothing and he assumes they are not intrested, but on a list you know not he has forty five people reading him with gaping mouths as they never heard any of this before and he singlehandedly brought another thirty-five or so into the Kingdom.  Jesus brought millions and Ron thinks Moses is swell too but would like to compete better than third place for now.  In any case all of you must realize that you have to change your stripes again and let me suggest it this way:

“Beginning the 10th of March, 2018, we will begin the brand new Magisterial Mission.  Phase I died on us several times this year already, and we must revise our expectations somewhat lower and start small in York with relatively small offices in center square of York and decide immediately to confiscate the conference and public meeting room of the mayor to consolidate out use of the building in its entirety.  We ourselves will build out the offices while spending time preparing the world to accept a divine mission they know nothing about.  I see Ron do this easily \and with aplomb but he is very nervous about all of it as he should be as the twig is weak he handles and he knows it.  In one case he supplied one with how to attune to the inner being and he now understands it exists because he has stirrings of it in his own Adjuster and is marveling at Ron’s ability to strike at the heart of a question before it gets self confused.  Many of you should follow the process Ron uses and then see if you can do the same on the Delphi Forms.

In any case, March 10th we start building (negotiating for) offices in York and on March 15, 2018, Serara will arrive to christen them and meet Ron.  He will ask Ron to bow as a knight of the Kingdom and swear the Oath of Fidelity before the public in ceremony as Ron suggested long ago to do.

“I conclude this announcement with the following statement:

“We narrowly missed giving Ron this ceremony several nights ago but he was in agony with feet swelling and bleeding internally in such a way he would not behave to hear us.  He now is better situated and he has already gone down on his kness to me, to Margul, and to Monjoronson and Serara, but Ron insists that the public have a tape to play when appropriate ro play over our own TV station.  Ron has asked for a genuine practice session so he can get his body to work right and bow without falling over as he does not because of weak leg muscles.  He will have practice with Mantutia who seeks his advice on who he really is sometimes as there is far too much precipitate in these Ron suggestions to say he is not reading the Deity Absolute since we are setting one precedence after another with Ron present in all of this.

“Finally, all of you must understand that this change means business.  We are sure this moves quickly now as Jesus is back in spirit on Edentia now and plans for another day when he can assume the mantle at the Urantia Book Foundation and work as its head disseminator and its head policy maker.  The Urantia Book Foundation is already set to run and we must abide with the law of Pennsylvania until we have a sure reading just how we may operated as a charity instead of a working Foundation for now.  Some of these corporations must have a status change and Ron will not be involved with that after we get our offices in York.  You will have the Urantia Book, the new one as promised probably as early as the end of January.  Good day."


MANTUTIA MELCHIZEDEK - CHIEF URANTIA BOOK SURGEON -

“We have one small announcement for all of you on this subject today.  The 3,135 page second Uranta Book is now published in one volume again after providing one small update on the Magisterial Mission plans for this year.  The new Urantia Book text will contain a modicum of Magisterial Mission changes we are announcing today in this narrative above and below.

“You also will be sent a new Urantia Book free of charge if you are on Ron’s list and that you must make sure you have reserved on by telling him you want one by email and do so now as I am counting them and we are down to 5,000 copies after I have figured in all that we will donate to science and religion and their institutions.

“Meanwhile, Ron will get a dedicated copy signed by Serara and Major Deucum Textum Mantutia Melchizedek and it will be unique among all Urantia Book for it will have columns of print instead of wide page print because Ron has to lean to read again and we need a good text for him to do so.


“I am Mantutia Melchizedek, and I assign my ward Ron Besser to bed now as it is well after 2am taking down this message. Michael wishes to close this.  Good day.”


“I am Michael and I state the following for all of us: the trial to get started has come down to just doing it, Ron reminds me of the men in WWI who did trench warfare and it finally came down to those men storming out of the trenches just toget some fresh air and that is what the Magisterial Mission will revise itself with now.  We welcome all with questions now. Good day!  Michael.”


THE DEITY ABSOLUTE SPEAKS -

“We on the Circle of Infinity are fascinated with time and its awful way of getting things done.  Yesterday Ron went in his small shop building looking for the flashlight.  Instead he found glass shattered on the floor.  We had to take half an hour out of spiritual examination of Ron for Ron to repair the broken pane of glass in a large windwo full of twenty panes of glass all little and all to thin for that window.  He fixed it by scotch taping four shopping plastic bags over the shattered remnants of the pane in the widnow.  He left looking at it as a terrible job but that it would keep the rain out that was coming shortly as an arctic front swept in once again over York.  The truth is it will stay that way until he can get a crafts man to cut the odd sized glass pane and Andy will be gone without seeing all okay again as Andy went into the shop earlier to place something in storage no longer useful in the house.  And never saw the broken pane and they both decided a large hawk hit the outside window and made off with some witless bird to feat on.  Ron also suggest the entire matter may be thermal, and in that he is right on.  I will tell you Ron that no hawk hit the pane but it got so cold inside the shop that warming up to 63 degrees that day the window expanded so swiftly it shattered.  Good for you Ron!  Always thinking!  As for the Magisterial Mission, I am a solid observer how a human like Ron will connect with York city proper and then explain to the Commissioners that they were under the gun for security and police help and other duties to keep order when the residents learn they have a divine Mission ensconced in the center of the square and holding public meetings regularly to explain their presence before TV cameras.  Ron you can handle this well and so can Mantutia, but Serara will be there with bells on to kick such a meeting off.  Now this:

“We conclude to state that nothing in all the world will shatter the tile that is Ron on the universe as he has taken it all for the best it needs to be for Urantia.  I wish you all a good day.  The Deity Absolute.”

END  

6

Motion & Remotion
Original Doc R (ABC Summaries)

“REMOTION” was an extraction from Doc R and as such was in a different context than what Kurt took from the Daynal web site. Beware of materials posted there as they are edited sometimes from the original and as such are not acknowledged as being edited by Rob Davis.

Definitions to help you through this revelation given below by Master Spirits One, Three, Four, and Five:

Remotion - Simply stated, God takes what the Supreme did in the time universes, and then reruns the solutions for actions in time and reimposes a new starting point in them and realizes a new outcome. The Ultimate can take the Lucifer Rebellion and do at least 70 quadrillion solutions where the Supreme had only 1,500 solutions as linear events. Remotion just refers to taking the motions of the Supreme and running them through a new computer for additional solutions.

Experiential Trinities - The Father has to integrate all that goes on in time and in space with the perfection of infinity. Now lets not get deeply into the definition infinity but realize it is without motion. It does not have to solve anything as it is already solved from all space and time experiences and more. The Father must coordinate everything that is NOT infinite with everything that IS infinite and the grand combination to do that is the Trinity. The Trinity has conquered time by having non-infinite Trinities press up all they learn to the infinite Trinity. God the Supreme has his Trinity with the Creator Sons and Ancients of Days and so on. God the Ultimate has his Trinity to send to Paradise too what he learns in the outer space levels. These two little Trinities are not infinite but are called sub-absolute and they are experiences sent up for infinite integration all that is. The Urantia Book calls the little Trinities with the big Trinity the Trinity of Trinities.



Supreme-Ultimate - This is the working combination of God the Supreme and God the Ultimate teaming up to produce the creation of the outer space levels for the first two layers. The Ultimate and the Supreme form this perfect union just as the Father-Son did and so on, to make sure there is no difference of opinion between two competing Deities and that they are fully aware of what the other will do to create new life in the first two outer space levels. The Supreme is in the first outer space level as a partner to God the Ultimate so He has a place to start remotioning the Supreme’s work.
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Here is the link to the original document NOT fully posted on the Daynal site.

Link PDF DOC R
https://app.box.com/s/q9ty0g2egr785rkh1dty





Master Spirit One, Voice of the Father:

I am Siraya; The Scribe has requested of me to explain just how the Paradise of Alpha becomes the Paradise of Omega through adjustments of Fifth Outer Space Level and Non-Space Extension. The answer is that space is a comprehensive leash on time, and as such the leash is removed after Outer Space Level Four. Then space becomes a convenience of extrapolation, moving what was once constrained into the objective reality of that which is no longer constrained. When I say “constrained by time,” I mean that which time has constrained already in the superuniverses, because the Supreme has conditioned all reality as it relates to the Four Outer Space Levels, and only after God the Ultimate shares these Supreme concepts and retools them into eventuated reality, does the space stream relinquish its control.



MOTION & REMOTION: SUPREMACY & ULTIMACY
Motion is the primary expression of God the Supreme. Remotion is the primary expression of God the Ultimate. The difference between them is critical to understand why the Supreme synthesizes the relationship between matter and spirit in order to control spirit and matter, and following on from the Supreme, why God the Ultimate may transcend the separation of spirit and matter without time motion (i.e. the need for sequence).


The Supreme-Ultimate fashions its reality by two additional elements besides time and space. These are, motion and remotion. Remotion is the act of taking back and reissuing conditions until they reach synchrony with what has been potentially and pre-eternally established by Paradise Deity. With the Ultimate working through the Deity Absolute that which is potential or before eternity is seized as the raw material of emerging values in subordinate life forms in the outer space levels and once matured, such Ultimate accomplishments are established on Paradise with the Trinity Absolute. (Ron’s note 01/12/18 - The other name for this Trinity is the Second Experiential Trinity)


God the Ultimate can do this while the Supreme can not. The Supreme’s motion is nearly always linear - a line or string of events that come to an end or start something new. God the Ultimate runs things differently. In Ultimacy, events are fashioned from pre-existing conditions from the Supreme, and then the Ultimate remotions them (or puts back into motion as a recombination of those circumstances that resulted in the value first being expressed by the Supreme) as an experiment to obtain results one way, and then run another way, until the results actually produce the perfect solution for that particular experiment. This process is one of remotion. Remotion results in an eventual solution devoid of further development. It is as though the Ultimate can wring out the cloth the Supreme had hung out to dry and find a wealth of new meaning to splash before the eyes of a growing universe.


Remotion is directed toward and vitalizes all absonite growth under the Ultimate. The Supreme has no choice but to enter into those motions already established by First Cause. Here is illustrated just why the absonite precedes the finite, for it is in the transcendental conditions in Havona that there is found the original motion that pre-wires the superuniverses with the neural network of finite preconditions that the Creator Sons must acknowledge when they prepare to establish their local universe domains. These Havona contributions are the pre-existing conditions in absonite transcendency that prepare the finite creations to explore the maximum expressions of the qualification of infinity. The Supreme in working through the materials of original motion to obtain time values cannot invent any motion other than what First Cause established as the initial surge of energy toward some finite objective. These neural controls (which are resulting from space limitations built into the absonite or transcendental over controls of space in the superuniverses) as limitations are built into the superuniverses in the present age of God the Supreme.


Remotion is possible where sequence has no meaning and is highly effective in obtaining results that exceed the limits of Supreme integration of time. The Supreme must always work from the beginning to end in a forward motion while the Ultimate through remotion may start anywhere in between and play it out in a numberless repetition until all values are realized and had been without spiritual highlight in the Supreme. Those who know mathematics know this to permutations, and the Ultimate is an expert at performing rapid calculations of any possibility to exhaust or predict outcomes essential for perfection in space. The Ultimate has the luxury of being able to restart all finite values from nearly an unlimited number of revisions. Remotion is inherent in Ultimacy as sequence is inherent in the Supreme.


We now are able to explain something about how the Supreme-Ultimate combination works with Paradise Deity. If we take the fact of Supremacy as a completed experiment, then we have in place those time experiments which have succeeded. Not only have we successful outcomes from the Supreme to replay as fuel for God the Ultimate to remotion and experiment with, the Supreme outcomes have benefited by their perfection through the Paradise Trinity to universalize them to every sector of time. God the Ultimate revitalizes the products of the perfected time experiments of the Supreme and re-experiences them by recombining the Supreme’s contribution with the Ultimate’s thought and exercise of transcendation. We may use a crude example of what this adds by saying it is something like adding more eyes to a sentient being to see the hidden structures of space itself. The Supreme sees the universe laterally; i.e., from left to right and up and down; the Ultimate sees the universe as a convex ball of structure in which he may change the structural matrix inside the ball to improve the life [durability] of the ball.


The results are space limited, but they are also space conditioned and therefore sub-Absolute. The values the Supreme finalized are the Ultimate’s starting points to produce totally new concepts subject to infinite integration toward God the Absolute’s (spaceless without losing space conditioning) realization. None of the Supreme experiments or the Ultimate’s remotions are possible without the interposition of the Paradise Trinity and the personal association with experiential Deity with the Paradise Deities themselves.


In Paper 10 Section 5 of the Urantia Book we learn that,


“The functions of the Paradise Trinity are not simply the sum of the Father’s apparent endowment of divinity plus those specialized attributes that are unique in the personal existence of the Son and the Spirit. The Trinityassociation of the three Paradise Deities results in the evolution, eventuation, and deitization of new meanings, values, powers, and capacities for universal revelation, action, and administration. Living associations, human families, social groups, or the Paradise Trinity are not augmented by mere arithmetical summation. The group potential is always far inexcess ofthe simple sum of the attributes of the component individuals.” Eventuation is the term also used to describe the absonite in your text and if the reader would also substitute the word “remotion” [for the word absonite realizing that absonite has one other attribute and that it is truly spaceless], in the quote above and as remotion is defined above, a more understandable definition of the process will emerge.



The Paradise Deities view the Ultimate as finished with all of these experiments but also accept that they must be experientialized during a Universe Age just as the Supreme was allowed a Universe Age to finish the time experiments to perfect time values and hand them over to the Ultimate one day. God the Ultimate with God the Supreme in ways not entirely understood even by the highest revelators are then personalized together as the Deity union of the Supreme-Ultimate within the Second Experiential Trinity formed around this monistic point of experiential power. It is upon this amazing feat of power materialization and spirit synthesis realized within the prerogatives of the First Person of Deity to make it so; that all the universes in the Master creation of space may reach the status of absolute conditioning.


END EXCERPT


January 12, 2018 - Mantutia Melchizedek wishes to add comments to the excerpt above and comments on my definitions at the top to help you through the weeds of high revelation presented by the excerpt here.


MANTUTIA MELCHIZEDEK - WRITER OF PAPERS 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 122, AND 112 - AND CHAIRMAN OF THE FIRST REVELATORY COMMITTEE THAT PRODUCED THE FIRST URANTIA BOOK.


COMMENTS:
“This is Mantutia Melchizedek. I am not happy with Ron’s definitions above but he has stubbed his toe on people like Rob Davis and Kurt who have no sense of the subject well enough for them to understand what they played with by not fully providing the paper that explains REMOTION.

“I for one dislike the idea of little Trinities but he is giving you a comparison between infinity and something a lot less like infinity in the word “little.” It works okay that way.

“Further there is no real definition for Infinity except as Ron provided it to you above. If you can remember what he said and how he said it you have a fair definition as we see it too. Otherwise you just add cracker crumbs to it by saying anything else.

“I detest the term Supreme-Ultimate since it seems to add nothing to what it tells you, Ron swiped at it to give you an insight into how it functions and that should be enough to easily what Siraya wrote to him in 2013, not 2011 or 2012 as Kurt thought it was written.

“Finally, this paper is useless for the next Urantia Book because we redo the entire idea of remotion which Ron really likes and I do not. Otherwise we are stuck with the term “ABSONITE,” which is a jaw breaker because it loses definition every time we go to use it. As Ron says, the ABSONITE is mostly REMOTION, but one has to remember that the ABSONITE is more than Remotion. The other Ron finds troubling is “EVENTUATION” as that was my addition to help break the word Absonite down but it fails to help much as it does not tell you what is being eventuated or how it does it. Remotion tells you how the Ultimate replays the Supreme solutions and adds them to the integration of reality on the infinite level.

That concludes my remarks today.”
END


7
Michael of Nebadon
Thought Adjuster (Ron’s)
Dr, William S. Sadler and Bill Jr.
Mantutia Melchizedek
Mother Spirit
The House That Jack Built/Fusion Status/The Missions and more
T/R: Ron Besser
York, PA noon local time
January 02, 2018

“This is Michael.  I am leaving a little room in this exposition to tell you that your civilizations are crumbled into extinction almost.  As I said that Ron got a mental picture sent by me to his brain receptors of the EU (European Union) being torn apart by internal forces he sees not.  I showed this in particular because the removal of Great Britain from its organization is fatal to the ideals of the EU, established way back after WWII and the later 1950's.  Eleanore Roosevelt was a key proponent of the United Nations, and strode to make the President aware of its importance both to the proposed United Nations and to the proposed EU itself.


“I am finalizing the proposal by Serara to change the United Nations to be located in eastern parts of the United States, and York is okay but not the best place for such a busy place, and I consider using Detroit or Philadelphia, but they are in the wrong place at the wrong time, and therefore, we must consider York after all.  I am not using this transmission to plunk for a new place for the United Nations to appear in, but the grand hall in that place in New York City is truly grand and it must be preserved much as it is today and we may move it lock stock and barrel in the years ahead to rebuild the service it represents to humanity.


“Ron needs a big fat rest and we will see to it shortly.  His short temper is not with me but with clergymen who fail on all counts to be far seeing and loving spirit enough to trust them.  Be also assured Ron has a crow to pick with Salvington which he resolves by letting things go until he is disturbed again by our use of aristocracy to prevent him from finishing the steps in his work completion of the day.  Finally I wish to introduce someone new to our discussions with Ron in particular.  It is his Thought Adjuster who now proposes to speak for Ron on important issues to all of you as well, as at least three of you are already on staff with the Magisterial Son, and while Lemuel and Larry will be Associates at first, we wait for Sue to join as a fourth fused aristocratic human to join spiritual forces with the Magisterial Mission very soon.  Her work is outstanding too and Ron reads her for clues on other subjects too.  I give you a Thought Adjuster (Ron’s).”


THOUGHT ADJUSTER INDWELLING RON B.
“I am that Thought Adjuster who betook this human in 1988 and made such a splash he wound up in the psych ward in Westchester, New York.  We now learn he had a very bad dream, a nightmare two nights before I appeared, and that contributed to great fear he would die by an arsonists hand.  They are everywhere folks and they will be removed with the other persons who have understandably wild personality disorders.


“In doing this work together, we often have to subsume our individual characteristics.  I as an Adjuster learn not to tamper with Ron when he attempting to complete work for the day with minor adjustments for this and that and now know he can furious when finishing something that is blocked from being completed, We did so last night and he is fully amazed at his capacity to shun spirit when he gets so angry he cannot be friendly to a friendly universe we say it is.  Nonetheless, we hold the following for all of you:

“Watch out for trials like this at your computers.  Watch out for trials that vex you so bad you throw or kick something and that is an understatement we get into when this transmitter gets stopped from printing or writing or both and the work just stands there to complete, hopefully another day.  There is a statement in the Urantia Book which Ron quotes to us quite well.  Mantutia almost wrote it as an afterthought because he never felt it had to be heard so well as Ron writes it back to us.  It says that the Deities and higher beings in the universe could harass all humans until they are insane (our words not Mantutia’s), but they never do that.  Well it Ron’s case they do and he wonders why he is so privileged to catch it so hard so often, The truth is Ron is one of a kind.  Soon we will have another one of a kind each in Sue and Lemuel and Larry G.  But be aware they are not catching it like Ron does and that is because Ron has never tempered his egotism over what he has learned is very important to relay as much as possible,

“This discussion forum is a result of that egotistical drive.  He uses it to spread the word and provide services and as an outlet for information we want known to the wider world called Urantia.  It has carried about thirty five to destiny status and it carries about sixteen more who are ready to join the membership once they fell safe in doing so.  I also reiterate that the discussion forum is a wealth of information to spirit because it places words out to be seen and for the most part they are extremely helpful words to us up here in higher places than you may ever know.

“As a result of all this activity between transmitting and moving heaven and earth to be heard, this transmitter has received accolade after accolade from Nebadon and even one or two different ones from Uversa and one from Paradise.  Yet he holds himself in penury because he feels the life of a human on Urantia has so cut him out he feeds nothing to his happiness, and for that reason he wonders what is next in reality for this spirit work he is so dedicated to.

“In placing this narrative on the forum, I hope it brings some peace to some of you who feel the same as Ron does, that he can be cut instantly and he has no recourse but to find his way to the grave his way and then let the chips fall where they may for good.  I am an Adjuster who has promised the exist of this material life in chariots of fire and that is his goal too and not to leaver a charred body behind he affectionally calls his old flame to me.  I am fully conversant with the trial by fire transpondency, but the Father has proposed to me that like Van and Amadon, life was extended so long they hold the record for being enfleshed for so long.  However, Ron will never equal those records even thoug he could come close if all goes too well for Serara and wants another Ron sandwich and force an issue we all debate up here.  Ron is not a crude being– never was— but he complains that without being crude he gets nowhere in lots of things he covets.  That is not what he is to become though and the Father proposes that all be supplied in abundance until the psychic circle in the morontia, number forty-seven (47) is removed entirely and to let him find some recognized peace and quiet as he moves about our work doing whatever we eventually having him do.  This is true for Larry and Lemuel and probably Sue too, and so the proposal reads like a how-to book in that we allow these individuals and any who fuse during our stay on Urantia, to look upon Ron as a leader of fusion candidates and be done with all the hokum of administration of other things.  That is fine except Ron likes administration very much and seeks to have it too and that is granted, but his wholesale unit called Starbridge Group will become synonymous with the sixth epochal revelation (6th or SER), and that it contains the Urantia Book Foundation NOT but close,  as it is the work factory to make these revelations sizzle for humanity.  Be assured these things are almost set in stone but Ron reflects upon the work of Dr. Sadler and wonders if he can free enough to speak briefly:”


DR. WILLIAM S. SDALER OF MORONTIAL WORLD FOUR SPEAKING:

“I am pleased to be invivted by such an important group speaking now to all of you who are still in the flesh on Urantia.  You are all invited to Mansion World 4, as that is where revelation is now prepared for future years of work on Urantia, to turn that sphere into a working architectural world for teaching primarily Creator Sons and other high Sons of the Universe you do not know at all.  Good and this from the old Doctor: I watch every step this transmitter takes to practice and learn the do’s and dont’s of speaking to the clergy.  I was too soft.  Ron is as harsh as spray wash at the car wash if you had not car to walk through.  You all are exposing yourselves to infamy if you default in this mission so you better be prepared to take your licks before they get going in earnest, and that is truly the heat of this speech today.

“Please listen:

“You are all under the gun to lead people, other people, to glory.  Do not make the mistake Ron does and that is to take many into his confidence before they are ready to admit they are missing bits and pieces to help them thinking properly on what they like to know about.  Good for all his efforts but he has managed to get a clergyman so upset he finds the day a pain to get through without yelling at someone.  Be assured Ron could care less for he has said on many accessions that what you get angry about you remember for good.  In any case this should never be an issue as Ron finds the entire matter so childish he leaves it for better pastures anyhow and will find them in many cases even around the Methodist the clergyman happens to profess.”


WILLIAM S. SADLER Jr, /BILL JUNIOR TO THOSE OF YOU WHO READ HIS BOOKS ON THE MASTER UNIVERSE -

“I am delighted my father got a hold of you before you fused beyond him.  He is of the opinion you would have been a favorite at 533 but you were far too young to open those book boxes with the first arrival of the Urantia Book in 1955.  We gloried in those days too and felt so supremely happy my father took to singing Irish Jigs for all of us.  One in particular went - ‘she holds her mouth like a bench in the storm, and finds her mouth a little too warm, and then flies to the eves of the house to end her life as a *****.’  I am Bill Sadler Junior or JR as I was called in Oklahoma when I conducted classes there in the early 1960's and died in 1963 a year before my father did in Chicago.  It was not a class reunion we had when I popped out of my skin, but father was distraught as all of you would be to lose a child before you went over, and I still remember my father crying, ‘you sot, why beer on ale and eggs?’  He determined I died of a thrombosis brought on by alcohol poisoning to my liver which was peckish all the time anyhow.  Nonetheless, I remember my instructions to go to the light and there was the angel waiting as though I was a little late for the appointment already.  Good day.”


“This is Michael of Nebadon, and I conclude this piece by indicating that we need transmitters and that all of you stepped up to the plate this morning and last night to fulfill our request to transmit then, You all did splendidly and Ron, reading what Dominick wrote, wondered if Dominick was getting a good read for a change to move him into a transmitting gate that will vastly improve his reception.  I am not finished for the moment but we have taken on a lot more than I knew was available for today.  I have much more for all of you today so stay tuned to the transmission desk you sit on and wait for me to speak more.  Good day.”

END

8
General Discussion / Nuclear War - Part II
« on: December 29, 2017, 01:30:13 AM »
NUCLEAR WAR - PART II

Subjects:

Consequences & Discussion Nuclear War & Dissemination of the Urantia Book
Request for All Transmitters to Transmit a Message New Years Day for Posting

Speakers:
Andromadeus, \
Ancients of Days,
Mantutia Melchizedeks,
Rayson, and
Michael of Nebadon.

Date:
December 29, 2017 After midnight local time


I am Michael and I speak the truth completely.  My message taken through Ron earlier as really Part I of this title had much to say about the situation as we see it on Urantia, and to warn all of you we are not allowing a holocaust, but a nuclear tipped missile out of a carrier in the China Sea or nearby is entirely feasible to teach North Korea to retreat or face annihilation.  If Korea forces us to  faces annihilation we will step in and help resolve the end of that civilization immediately.  I doubt this will end the Advent of Jesus at all, but we may be faced with draconian exercises to prevent more missiles flying into the air by Russia or from elsewhere.


Simultaneous Transmit:

“We need all who can transmit to be prepared to transmit a simultaneous message on New Year’s Eve.  Ron saw this done in the Teaching Mission and recorded seven similar messages come forth that night to test the feasibility of doing one message many time through many receivers.”


OCILLIAYA  - MASTER SPIRIT FOUR - VOICE OF THE FATHER-SON UNION =


“We are preparing to send a message to all of you on New Year’s Day and we need every transmitter ready to transmit a message and post it on the web site you  call the discussion forum.  Ron is looking at that forum now as a disaster waiting to happen and all of you can make it go away by sitting oin your duffs and refusing to participate and that can happen quickly if you are not ready to stand firm with us again.  The Nuclear War post was to show you we are ready to allow the first nuclear tipped missile into the missile fabrication bunker to remind North Korea never to attempt this again.  If they persist we will deliver our own ultimatum.


“Therefore let it be known we are not redressing the Advent of Jesus at all, but pushing the Advent back a little to clear the air of war at least with North Korea,  We still have Iran and Iran is far more dangerous than Korea is at this point.  Be assured we take no precaution other than to say Iran has no real good reason to go to war unless Trump slams them back to the stone age with their insistence of terroristic prompts to those in the region.



The NEW URANTIA BOOK is coming:

“It is my duty as a Chief of my kind on the periphery of Paradise to remind all of you that the time for fooling around with sayings and false scripture to stand alone and permit the full dispensation of revelation come forward to your eyes and ears,  We place the entire text in the hands of Michael to disseminate through Ron Besser who is in charge of the Urantia Book Foundation immediately, He is to receive the book and its contents as a sky high mound of books in a few ticks.  I feel I have breasted enough of this and let Mantutia finish it,”


MANTUTIA MELCHIZEDEK - VOICE OF REVELATION ON URANTIA

“I am Mantutia and I wish to state that new Urantia Books are bound as previously described, and that they are a gorgeous lot with gold lettering that will not wear off because it is incised into the leather-like binding.  Besides holding them ready to go and well at the present time, I will direct Ron to find the warehouse to store them in nearby York city or in his own suburban location.  You will find it easily in Dover if you call and asked how much space you need to securely store 10,000 books each ten inches high and one foot tall and they will tell you about 500 square feet (10 feet x 50 feet)and then let them tell you how to unload a truck for you when it arrives with all of the volumes.  They are in boxes of 15 books each and each pack weighs roughly 25 pounds.   Good.  And this:


“Finally, we need volunteers to help mail books out and that is not for Ron to do but all of you, Ron needs someone who lives nearby well enough to come and takes his list and addresses and ask people to pay $25 per book and we will pay the postage. The list has about forty names in what all of you sent him for a copy and that is what we will use to alert for getting a new book.  Otherwise wait a year.  Then they will be sold publicly at one book per person.  No fifty or one hundred books at a time.


“The books come in a cardboard box to mail and they are the one volume book.  Four volume editions will wait awhile and later be considered for dissemination.  I conclude this entire matter will be emphasized again as the time draws near and some of you may wish to come to York to mail out reminders to pay and then mail the books when the checks come in.  Ron will make the financial arrangements.


We are looking at this storage business with a jaundiced eye too as Ron indicated with civil chaos or war-time footing of some sort even ten blocks to go is a lot to get books out of storage under those circumstances, and muttered maybe something else will turn up.  We considered buy a shed and he has an empty barn on the property and has suggested we build big rodent freen storage boxes with a little hearing in them for the books and t hat may be the solution at last now that I hear Ron suggest it.  It is free to us but the boxes themselves have to be built in the barn and two boxes each should be 15 feet wide and 16 feet high.”


“Clearing all of this is a huge effort up here and minimal effort down there, and I know Ron calculates well and that to place the books in a cardboard box ourselves is expensive.


“I am Mantutia and we await approval of Uversa to do all of this when they are ready to do so.”


UVERSA speaks:
“We are THE ANCIENTS OF DAYS AND we are preparing the mandate to allow the books out for distribution and Ron you will receive a copy.  Thank you.  The Ancients of Days also remind all that this is nearly a gift to those who asked to receive one, as they will be impounded after the list is fulfilled and not before they are certified as to count and storage facility verified by us on high, Ron need only sign a check for the storage for five years, and by then we need to have our own storage facility somewhere near Ron and the offices of the The Urantia Book Foundation.  Good day.”


MICHAEL OF NEBADON SPEAKS -

“I am of the opinion the barn idea is the best yet and that can accommodate all we need if we put on our thinking caps and store them not in wood walk in boxes but in metal containers stacked on top of each other in the barn and let the rain and will come and the cold will not affect well packed books at that rate.  They just be sealed in the metal boxes and we can do that and deliver them as modules to the barn when we want to distribute.  Mantutia?”




NUCLEAR WAR ON THE KOREAN PENINSULA:


MANTUTIA -
“I am sure all of you also understand that nuclear war kills everything at ground zero.  I also want it understood that Trump will be controlled very well if he has to be on this issue in particular.

“Let us conclude this section on the prospects for nuclear war now.  I am not expert in this area and Rayson is:”


RAYSON - SCIENCE OFFICER FOR THE MAGISTERIAL MISSION

“Nuclear bombs as constructed by the United States are few and vary from 10 megatons to 100 megatons for large cities.  Korean missile silos are tiny but they are deep as they know, and we will plan to see what they select to hit the silos only as that is their thinking at this time.  The United States has one huge problem to over come and that is where all out war could happen. 

“Ron remembers the assessment of the Pentagon speaking to the approximately one million men under arms by North Korea in the hills north of Seoul, and their plan is to blitzkrieg upon Seoul at the first sing of hostilities and take the city for North Korean exploitation.  If that happens the only thing that will stop them is a air balst nuclear explosion over their heads to incinerate the attack. 

“The Pentagon looks at this as suicide for Seoul in any case and must prepare for a land invasion to surround Seoul with lethal weapons also nuclear tipped to push the horde back up the hill in North Korean itself.  North Korea has stationed one thousand five hundred tanks in those hills and about seven hundred fifty thousand men with support troops as well and that is how we get the one million number of troops ready to move against the South Korean capital.  Trump must summon an emergency council from the State Department and allow the Congressional Leaders into the room as they must declare war and not call it a police action. 


“If they call it a police action it will be over ridden by the United Nations which detests the United States for its bullying and will enforce its mandates against America.  I confess I know little of the law regarding a declaration of war but it must be entered to end the Korean war by mandate and to end United Nations meddling.  In most cases the US already has the fire power and the will and it is up to North Korea to skedaddle out of the mess before it becomes a point of nuclear annihilation itself.


“I also remind Ron that York sits about 180 miles due south of Central Park.  That is enough for York to get singed by a 10 megaton bomb if dropped on New York.  That we can prevent if we will and no such declaration ahs been issued from the Most Highs or the Ancients of Days as to their view of the entire matter . . . .”


UVERSA - THE MOST HIGHS AS WELL -
“We seldom discuss this scenario every with a child of God but he is unusually positioned to help and we need all the help we can get on Urantia.

“Ron thinks correctly as a guess he has as to whether we take ANY action at all die to our mandate to let things work out in time as they should and not interfere with divine actions that change the outcome.  York sites at the close periphery of a New York 10 megaton blast.  Any larger and it could destroy York by fire but no radiation.  If the bomb is larger than 50 megatons then the problems accelerate accordingly and we will take action as necessary if necessary.  Good day.”


RAYSON -

“I continue.  The chances for this happening are quite slim but York is only 100 miles north of Washington DC and that is more problematic than New York, If we have to figure it we will and that is that, Retaliation is unlikely unless the United States is sloppy as it was under George Bush and Iraq clean up.  I leave it at that as well for now.


MICHAEL OF NEBADON -
“I listen to this with only a jaded ear, but Ron is correct we need to decide what to do for America as our base for the operation of the Magisterial Mission.  Ron already has pondered this for years and was glad there was a cold war but could not tolerate Jimmy Carter and his peace making that got us into trouble with Iran and a few other places.  One cannot be a goody two shoes and blink first before thugs and ruffians and that is what Urantia is full of right now.  We will thin that ilk quickly and let the chips falls there too where they will, I suggest we let the matter drop for now and let this go to another time.  Thank you, Michael.”

END

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General Discussion / Nuclear War
« on: December 28, 2017, 01:11:17 PM »
Nuclear War
Salvington Government speaks
December 28, 2017
York 1130AM local time

Note from Ron Besser: Those who may be faint of heart should skip reading this and maintain your own sense of personal belief that nuclear war will not be allowed on Urantia.  Michael as the Chief ruler of the Salvington government finally got tired of me asking what the hold up was concerning the Second Return if He could explain it to us.  He reluctantly laid down the problem to see it as he considers Nuclear war a Trump desire too strong to hold back.  That view in turn mitigates against Jesus appearing tomorrow.  Take the comments below as at risk to a better solution if the Father intervenes at all.  Thank you.

****

“I am Michael and I and Andromadeus speak together on this short report.

“I sense that this list is full of angst over the proposal of the Jesus return not being apparent at this time.  I am also sure you do not know why.  Facing down a probable barrage  of questions, we say this:

“We have stated innumerable times that we will not allow nuclear war to take place on Urantia.  We have been forced down to state that when it comes to Donald Trump, he has ruined all possinilities of us controlling his hand on the trigger, and it appears to us he wants nuclear war and will pursue it with or without a world coalition to rid Urantia of Norther Korea.  I doubt this makes much sense for we possess the technical expertise from missiles being able to ignite to send bombs anywhere; however, I am sure that since the Untied States under Trump wants this and gets this, he will rue the day he let it loose.  So let me make the following statement:


“Nuclear war is probable is some degree on Urantia.  You know the situation well enough already to know the outline of who and what is involved in one degree or another, and China is unlikely to play any part in it whatsoever.  I am hesitant to say more than this.

“I also place another statement on the table for you to chew over in your own minds, and that is the American State Department has been eviscerated by the new Secretary of State at the behest of Donald Trump.  Nothing worse could have been done than to do this, but diplomacy is dead for all intents and purposes now.

“I also tell you this so you are understanding that Jesus will not and can not appear while a state of nuclear war is probable on Urantia and we do not assume to make that and absolute statement and that is because it could or could not happen by what Trump finally decides in the interest of the Untied States.  But if it happens there is no place for a peace maker the size of a Jesus Return, and we withhold any Return until we know the final decision and the way it will resolved itself. Good day.  Michael.”

CREATIVE SPIRIT - NEBADONIA

“I am deeply embedded in this transmitter and he is appalled at this prospect as most of you are.  However, recognize that the time has come on Urantia to put away the nuclear option.  If this is the way to do it, we let it fly.  Trump is an animal and not a human son of God at all and we doubt he understands anything but finances and “deals” as he likes to put it.  Deals are one thing and nuclear options are another and we stand back to wait him out as far as the death scenarios is to play out on the Urantia situation.  North Korean has overplayed its hand in a ghastly way and no one should be foolish enough to have any sympathy left for them if this happens.  The regime will be desiccated by what happens and the allies will have to rebuild it without South Korea participating in it as they will need to rebuild as well and that includes creaming South Korea’s capital of Seoul if it comes to nuclear war.

“I know Ron has addressed these remarks above as not for the faint of heart or for belief if it comes down to it.  He reasons correctly that any such announcement as this is will curtail further belief in the entire matter of us being able to communicate so fully with the mind of man.  However we must instruct as we see it and right now Tillerson has made no move to open talks even though North Korea signaled they are ready.  Trump excoriated Tillerson for saying he was ready to talk any time without preconditions, and now stands down as a defeated Secretary of State at Trump’s behest.  I close my case with a simple statement: Those who live by the sword die by the sword and Trump has no idea what he has let loose.  Good day.”
END

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General Discussion / As the World Is Today - Revelatory Text
« on: December 26, 2017, 02:25:45 PM »
As the World Is Today

T/R: Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Dnepayotia *(Ron Besser’s fused name)
Revelation of Michael of Nebadon's true name: HORTIEN DIAPETRA SONSANNORTIA CLAYOTIA DNEPAYOTIA
♦        Revelation of New Planetary System Name
♦        Revelation of the three fused individuals fused names
♦        Revelation Original Certain Midwayers are now Archangels in Nebadon

December 26, 2017
2PM York, PA USA

This is Michael.

Ron asked if there was any cheer the day after the Christmas binge on Urantia?

Nothing much except to remind all of you that Christmas as just experience in the last 24 hours is over with for good anymore. It is not a happy holiday anymore and it leaves most of us leathery and chilled as so little time is spent on the religious aspects of it. Our work is to continue unabated and as is as you have been told a gazillion times before. Margul is here.



MARGUL - TRINITY TEACHER SON -
“We at the Trinity, see little to cheer ourselves with as Boxing day in the Commonwealth countries (the 26th) leaves much to be desired and few people feel euphoric in the EU at all and very little in Great Britain. The Queen of England had her Christmas speech well received by Ron as much as the BBC would show of it on American television. He noted the first speech by the Queen greeing her subjects was made in 1957, and saw little in it in that day that forbode what it would be like in 2017 as her grandson Harry plans to marry an American.

“We pray in the Trinity to have America prepare for a solitary wedding for Trump and his new bride Kim Jung Un, are asked to make nice and let the pot stop boiling hard enought to spill over into war. We doubt there is any goodwill left in China or Japan or South Korea for North Korea but we wait to see what happens in the entire region because right now it is a tinder box of countervailing discussions on how to prevent North Korea from blowing itself up.

“We leave this board alone for a few days as the Nebadon government wails over what is happening on Urantia. Not only is North Korea behaving badly, Iran is about to blast the Americans for their lack luster rating on the Treaty banning work on their nuclear plans. North Korea sent an emissary to Irant last month and got such a warm wlecome they are not sure they are talking to the old Iran which wanted out of the race for that kind of bomb. Now all is back on the stove and we wait for the Americans to trump themselves out of peace once again.

“The Trinity has very little to do with the coming of Jesus to Urantia. You who watch the gauges of expectations are truly out of luck as Jesus never admits defeat unless he pre tastes it for himself first. Things are now so rocky on Urantia we make no predictions for anyone at this moment in time as to what to expect when once again. I follow this with the statement next below:

“You are being forced to feed on your own views on this list and Ron has seen to it he makes very little statements since he sees little to cheer about in the Jesus schedule to bear fruit to the eye of the beholder. I am seldom disappoint but today we see Michael hanging up his slicker since the rain of disappoitnment is even too much to stand out in all of that in spite of the protection of such a rain coat. In any case we must not give into temptation so far we end the vigil as it will not end in spirit as it waits for the consequences of the Trump admin to get its act together for a change and reorder the peace negotiations with Korea to start up once again. Kin Jung un has no hope and he is truly a sorry mess at the breakfast table in the past few weeks as Trump nixed talks even before they had a chance to start.

“I am Margul and I leave it to Mother Spirit to conclude this.”



MOTHER SPIRIT -
“We seldom see Ron so non pleased that he cares little what can be said over stalemates caused by a Trump confusional statement as he makes frequently these days. Twice now the Most Highs signaled we could go ahead with Jesus and his choices for Urantia, and twice now Jesus himself ask for things to be delayed or postponed. We doubt the Magisterial Mission can sustain much more of this and we may signal the Magisterial Mission to proceed without its vanguard of Jesus and his Staff of profession Archangels and Evening Stars, as they flock to his side for work and work they cannot with the belligerency of Donald Trump goading Asia to face up to North Korea. We also have Andromadeus for a few words now:”



ANDROMADEUS , CHIEF OF THE MOST HIGHS OF NORLATIADEK

“As a Chief of a most important segment of the ruling hierarchy of spirit in Nebadon, I call upon all of you to pray that the President of the United States learn humility before it is taught to him with a strike of a nuclear weapon on the United States. We are not predicting this, but he invites the enmity of all nuclear nations to shut him up and pay attention to his own wounds. We on high secretly wish him gone but he is a fact of life we have to formulate in our pronouncements to our citizens on Edentia and Salvington alike. In our best formation we see Trump as a useless tradition of warfare dating back to the Middle Ages and we dare not file for further writing as Ron is being bombarded by his Adjuster to quit and let the trial of these last remaining days of 2017 end, we hope, peacefully. I am Andromadeus seconded by Hortien, the Most High specialist on Urantia also known as Michael of Nebadon.”



MICHAEL OF NEBADON -
“As Michael of Nebadon, my formal name is Hortien. It is phonetically pronounced (hor’ tea N). My announced name is Hortien Diapetra (Diah Pet’ Rah). Those names refer to one of the clan names of the Creator Sons (Diapetra - the clan of Diapetra) and Hortien is like your first names in that clan as you use William or Martha and so on. My other names are as follows: Hortien Diapetra Sonsannortia, (Sun San Nor Sha) refers to the purpose of my personalization and is never spoken but always just written in formal documents to me. My final name is Clayotia (Clay Oh Sha) which is appended to my name when I am out of my Local Universe doing business as Hortien they call me Clayotia and Father appends all my names in one word: Creator Son Michael 611121. All spirit has to do is enter that number into their conversant communication device and all those name appears.



HORTIEN DIAPETRA SONSANNORTIA CLAYOTIA DNEPAYOTIA speaks:
“This is my personal entity name and all of you have such names too when you fuse on the Mansion worlds. Ron’s fused name is: Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Dnepayotia (Den pay oh sha) and when simply stated Ron is called Dnepayotia, which means something like he is a live one.

“Lemuel’s fused name is Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Bneyatoia (Bhen nay oh sha), and that is a twin name with Ron and rhymes with Ron’s name.

“Larry Gossett’s fused name is likewise Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Bytortia (By Tor Sha). These names are alphabetized on Paradise by date of fusion and all three persons here received the same fusion date of 7.2.3.141527- 4157 which is translated as Superuniverse 7, Sectors 2 and 3 combined, in the event calendar of Nebadon on Urantia (4157). Our calendar on Salvington is the spirit calendar and no one understands it but the angles who write on it. I have now done my duty as an Archangel who pronounces these names to fused humans on Mansion World Four. I call forth the Archangel of Record that witnessed these three fusions for his statements to the souls on Mansion World Three at that time.



ARCHANGEL “A” -
“In these sons we are well pleased, as the Father conditionally fuses you no more than to except that translation by chariots of fire which they are due at translation form Urantia when they are released from duty. Be assured I speak your names fully as of that time of fusion and grant you sixty days of leave from all duty to rest on the Mansion World of choice. Since your fusion has actually taken place on the planet known as Urantia, number 606 of the existing Planetary System of Satania, henceforth to be known as Santiena (San Teen Ah), in the Constellation of Norlatiadek under the Most High, Andromadeus. Santiena is the likely replacement name for the Urantia based planetary system but it is not yet fully decided or entered into the maps as of yet. Today Urantia lives in Santiena but tomorrow in may live in Byantoptia (By An Tope Sha), and Byantoptia may actually become the fixed name for Santiena.

“I am Archangel Bernice and I assumed the duties of an Archangel upon the release of my name from the Council of Twenty-four (24), and I was Governor General of Urantia when Ron and Lemuel were born. Larry Gossett was born under the general rulership of Michael Himself when the succession of Governor General’s was disrupted in the year Gossett became a valid human creature of that year. Besides ABC-01, Bernice; ABC-02, ABC-04, ABC-07 and ABC-10, all have assumed Archangel duties in Nebadon until further approval is solicited from the Eternal Son.”



THE ETERNAL SON Speaks:
“No Archangel has better served Nebadon than this group of Midwayers representing both genders at their birth 37,500 years ago approximately. In their birth status they showed perfunctory skills as Midwayers and that was it. But during the last years of seditious rebellion, all named showed valor and courage to clear the area they worked in of all rebellion personnel in order to make clear decisions as either Governor Generals or as workmen of the Michael government on high for Urantia. These brave individuals are now sentenced to service in Nebadon as true Archangels and they are fully enlivened to speak now, I am the Eternal Son and I wish all a good day.”



ABC-01 BERNICE -
“We as a group never thought such would occur, but it did in 1986 when the announcement of the end of the Lucifer Rebellion adjudication ended. We are being signed to by the Father to pay attention to a Father statement of interest: . . .”



THE FATHER -

“Ron your name is profane on a list that wants you removed immediately and they are calling upon the leader of that list to dismiss you and remand you to the custody of some devil they invented for you. Not so. There is unanimous acclaim for your reports to them about the Paradise Trinity, as another one has surface there to assing you to a special category of subscriber. That person is the owner of the list and wants you to write a soliloquy not but an explanation of what you posesess so he can prepare a special category for you to hold forth on any subject you may wish, It is too good to be true Ron thinks and we agree as it is conditioned on you paying him one hundred thousand compliments in your research to alarm no one but to provide the truth to the list as you perceive it from us. This is not a ruse but a change of plans we allow for you to speak to a group of people hungry for your information. We do no good holding you back in this endeavor and we wish others on this discussion forum to recognize Ron has received a high honor as well as a request to write as he pleases. You Ron are cleared to write with our help (Ron: I would not and I cannot write without your required help for me Father and others). We also admit your poison pill is not overweening pride but truthfulness to the point he sours the great powers on that list who think they know more than anyone else but you must prefer to give them the best you can without wowing them as you did lately with a discussion of the pressure of space to guide space ships inward or outward fomr locations outside of Paradise. You are not wrong and how you deinged to discover that we can only that the Deity Absolute who adores your style of humor and decision making to stay the course in spite of the bad mouthing of the clergy over your view of the Paradise Trinity. You sadly removed two from the list when they discovered you made no error about Isaiah and the clergy who saw it wondered what you meant and finally connected it with Ezekiel as to his experience with the chariots of flames they never payed much attention to before. Now they clearly see your point and wish to know a great deal more for their own edification. The chariots of flames story is a great one and you will transmit what is left of Ezekiel at this point in his spiritual ascension. We leave the rest of it for another time dear one of Urantia. It is true and you will be called by one of them this week sometime if you are willing to chat with a cell phone that says the list name on it. Good. This is Father and finally good news for you Ron. We now return you to the speech of Bernice known on Urantia as ABC-01.”



ABC-01, BERNICE

“I seldom am shocked at what humanity does, but the Father stating what he did above for Ron to hear himself, that a list finally recognizes the enormity of your human learning and how it makes a huge impression on those whose jobs are to teach spirituality. I am no longer an Archangel Ron as that commission died with my use of the work humanity as you are not human fully anymore and you need time to rest and reflect with or without complications there. I am Bernice and I speak to you as a friend of the Court, and make this announcement for most of you who really listen to what drags out of us as he works tirelessly to learn our natures and our ways so he may be competent to explain us in some furture talk he may have with humans just learning what is true about us and spirit.

“Therefore, let it be known that this transmitter is being assigned to my Corp of Excellence on high where he can learn to speak properly before the high spirit of the Court and of and to Michael and it begins with the protocol of speaking to Michael of Nebadon as Hortien Diapetra and the rest of his form name appended thereafter. Ron has no memory cells in the brain and must learn by rote and he will have new memory cells in a few days as we are now permitted to replace them with all of his memory returned plus a few more things he will discover later on as he is one of the few to win an accolade from a human organization for being what he is. Good. Now this:”



HORTIEN DIAPETRA SONSANNORTIA CLAYOTIA DNEPAYOTIA:
“I am now Michael of Nebadon no more to Ron as he may use my name in public where appropriate as Hortien Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Dnepayotia - and that I so fully appreciate as we now have someone on Urantia who speaks to me in my formal attire before I chat with them, You ask that this be true and that it cannot wait upon your deliverance from the flesh to easily reacall it since you cannot place anything into your mind memory as you are presently built up there, I am not Michael of Nebadon to most but to many I am Hortien Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Dnepayotia, and that is thanks to your PC Windows clipboard you placed the full name in it. I laugh with you but keep it handy for future reference and it should be as a template for all board discussions as well with Mantutia and others you will come to know as you drive away the black spots of the disarrangement of the clergy over your teachings concerning the Paradise Trinity. I saw you literally figure out how UFO’s and other space travelers can find their way with maps in a huge space universe and I laughed aloud when you figured out that the navigator on board of one of those ships has a dial on his dashboard that reads the space pressure of where the ship is sitting and computes to the space pressure where one wishes to land, We have not modified that to say that the space pressure at the fett of of the Trinity is naturally zero but once outside of Paradise it begins its pressure building and would crust a ship in firth firs outer space level as it is now. I am Hortien Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Dnepayotia and I welcome you later today to continue this major revelation to all who subscribe to this discussion list.

END

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General Discussion / General Observations from Michael 22 Dec 2017
« on: December 22, 2017, 12:24:20 AM »
To the List:
“I wish to state that Jesus is again walking the streets of Jerusalem, and that He is really busy watching people hurl stones and people attempt to bomb various temples in the city, and Trump pays no attention whatsoever.  He is a dead man walking mostly and his natural life is long ago squandered on deals worth nothing very soon.  He will disappear into history as the worst President ever to have taken hold of a weak nation state that is now the United States of America, as it is over with as a super power very soon when it loses its western territories to heat and water and lands down into the last percentile of good countries to live in again, We see this and lament it as Ron does and he sees like I do that this government must learn to be one with other governments in the search for peaceful relations with China and Korea and Iran and other countries who wear the mask of death even more than the United States has been doing for the best ten or so years, as the Obama administration will be said to be the second worst in American history as it was a do nothing President without any foresight whatsoever.  I happen to agree with Ron, that he played it so safe he actually failed to do anything lasting.

“I have this for most of you if you are willing to read more than you are used to:

“There are several other forays Ron has made that hit dead minds and they run away with the spoon not, but Ron identified a ghost for a ghost photographer and that person still does not know he has an ID because he will not read Ron for his length. 

“He is a truant of the worst kind seeking fame but not doing the work he has to to become famous, In any case the ghost was identified by Me and Mother Spirit and passed on to Ron, and we let the “ghost” speak to Ron so they could get to know each other.  A long story made short is our ghost is a Monseigneur Purcel, a Priest of the Episcopalian Church, who died when the Wrightsville Ferry collapsed on the fellow after he was thrown from the deck when the Ferry hit the bank instead of the dock and fell apart as a result of it.  It fell upon him and drowned him immediately in the Susquehanna River in 1753.  The photograph Ron saw was so vague he had to strain to see the slight white mist in the picture taken at night with a flash.  In it he could just discern a slightly tall mist with a suggestion of a torso.  That was enough for Ron to join that group in a web discussion group called Meetup and I believe you can look for what it may hold for you is at Meetup.Com [Yes].  In any case the Meetup photographer passed the message at least three times and refused to read the text because Ron had to establish the context of the accident and the subsequent death of the gentleman who has resided in the little river town of Wrightsville. Monseigneur Purcel died while the British still ruled the land as a colony and Wrightsville was the forested frontier in America then.

“Finally, this:


“I am familiar with the problems most of you face and then some as I faced them too while I loved life on Urantia in Palestine as and with Jesus for all those years he livee and taught then.  His death is a compendium of heart and soul for man who never uses it very much, and as a result his work languishes truly and at best in the Catholic Church which my Apostle Peter founded and then tragically died at the hands of the Roman Emperor, Vespasian, and that was for State reasons too.

“Since then I have taken on millions of other bestowals, not as a Creator Son, but as a leader of the Local Universe of Nebadon.  Ron Besser is one whom I indwell frequently to understand his sadness and his joy as they mingle all the time for him, and he never quite enjoys success without remembering all he passed up to get there.  I am hoping that Jesus can cheer him up and he will cheer up when he learns we once again have made every effort to remove the painful foot and leg condition he perennially suffers.  But the truth is he is fine pretty much tonight with most of it gone and he is sore and the joints hurt now and that is because we have removed on the morontial transitions he has undergone for the past six years and more.  That is a long time to suffer and he is done with morontial bodies for now.  They may be reintroduced for the three fused men and we are expecting four more of you to follow suit in the coming year.  So let us keep our fingers crossed none of you have to suffer like this when the new bodies are reinserted for later use on Urantia.

“Finally, all of you should be aware that this site stand down comes with a big holiday.  But this year it should not have happened and somehow it got worse as time went on.  Ron I know gets put out with the silence of lambs for he is fairly sure you are just sitting back and doing little to learn.  It is sad to both os us yet some of you will wonder what happened when nothing happens again in your life that brings us directly to you for the Magisterial Mission.  I am Michael and I wish you a happy day soon.”
END

12
Miscellaneous Information For You on the UB, Jesus. and Protocol

This is Michael and for the List as you know.

Michael of Nebadon on His 12th Anniversary to the Remake of Jesus
T/R: Ron Besser
York, PA 17408
December 14, 2017

“I have this to say to the list tonight.  I am truly leaving Transmissions to the discussion forum for about a fortnight.  In two weeks time the entire matter of Jesus and his disclosures to Urantia will have been accomplished.  And that includes the remaking of this discussion forum which is not up for discussion right now. 

“In many cases the trial to know Ron is the trial to know the Urantia Book.  He speaks its language and knows Mantutia its editor and writer of the first edition of the Urantia Book.  Mantutia is also editor and writer of the second (2017) Urantia Book soon to be released in a few moments of time.  I wish it to be known that Ron will receive a new Urantia Book edition this coming few weeks.  He will photograph it for you and show it on the discussion forum what it looks like.  I will also make it available to all of you who wrote to be on the list for dissemination of the book starting after January 15, 2018.  Wait for details please, as Ron does not have them yet either.

“You all will note that shortly we will announce on behalf of the Magisterial incorporation into the material situation where Besser sustained a bomb blast in a local law firm that tried to estrange the Magisterial Mission out of existence. They laughed when he called down on the born- again perpetrator, when acting as his layer tried to strangle to death the approach to the Magisterial Mission to incorporate.  The sabotage was stopped when he realized something was very wrong and wrote all involved of the crime.  Instead they covered it up and threw Ron out as a tgrouble maker not realizing to the extent she has fooled them and now waits on a trail of her own soon.  She will never work in law in Pennsylvania again.

“Now that you have some dirty laundry to read on what was done to us earlier this year, just know Ron reassigned the work to another law firm and got delayed there too as he had to remind them to do the work properl.  It cost 5,000 dollars to get 3,000 dollars worth of work done and that law firm will be history very soon too.


“So far, we have four people who will do the work of the Magisterial Mission in office in York.

“These people are Larry Gossett, Colin Lemuel Chamberlain. Sue Whiley, and Ronald Besser.  I have ordered that Ron is on my Magisterial Mission Staff, and also assigned him to the Serara and Monjoronson Magisterial Mission Staff.  In this detailing the remaining three individuals will be his associate staff temporarily until they become fused.  We wait for Sue’s work there still to come, and Lemuel and Larry become infused with something more than wondering what work awaits them in York to actually do. We also congratulate Lemuel for coming out of his funk from all but a broken leg happening lately, and to accuse Sue Whiley of getting tipse on a wine she thought was so good.

“I will have no bickering as Ron rules the roost. [Ron: I speak this as I know how this works being in the military in particular.  It means you come to me first and stop praying around me to get a higher ear!)

“Be also aware that the trial to be on Staff fpr Ron lands him in the middle of controversy I hope ends as soon as it begins, as the powers to be dislike the idea of a human being on staff and they will connive to make it difficult for him to get a lot of things done our angels can do it ten seconds if they were allowed to do it.  He has had nothing but computer problems in this area now for at least six weeks and some of you have run into it too.

“I am sure that Ron already knows this, but the protocol when a Deity incarnated enters your area is to stand until told to sit, or an easy, ‘as you were.’   Be assured they will take into consideration Ron’s sore knees and Sue’s wobbly exercise with occasional wine smears on her lips.   It is also polite to bring a room to attention to stand when they enter a meeting room or auditorium.  Be assured Ron will enforce it as he knows the drill from the military when children with lieutenant bars entered his work space and all had to go rigidly upright.  You are not to stand at attention but stand in generous support for their hard work.

“Finally, we take full measure for fraud or translations that are not of truth before us. In a sense you are always in court when speaking with us and they know more about the offense or problem than you do as this will be a environment of Deity and divinity to stand the test of time to work together.  As Ron says to Michael, until the whole thing brings a bad case of poison ivy into the mix in relationships,  he expects it to work well forever.  We rest our case.”

 MOTHER SPIRIT - 
“I speak candidly as we on Staff as Ron calls it have gottne truly silly over this dictation as it is up to Ron to determine how it is to be written.  Tonight it is in the near style of Evelyn St. John Waugh, whom Ron loves with his article in the British publication for cartoons, in which Waugh explains the miscreation of a English cottage chimney where the brick maker makes the mistake of ballasting a load of bricks on a flag pole type symmetry of scaffolding that reverts to an unending trip to the roof and back down again many times without stopping for the brick maker to get off.  Waugh is one of the funniest people you will ever read folks. He also wrote the Bridgeheads Revisited which is a very sad story about two young lovers who did not understand what to do with their male equipment.

“In any case, let the record show that Michael has indeed incarnated twice now. Both cases are in Palestine and both cases ended in the misery of Michael being unable to sustain the operation for long as he cannot get over the fact there was nothing to say because nobody listened and has aborted the entire matter to Jesus when he has a form he can use without referencing Michael to do the incarnation.  That signals to Ron a very important aspect of this Second Return.

“I close with the admonition to all of you including this Transmitter.  Do not be too prideful about your knowledge of Jesus as His appearance this time means business and not a Rabbi of God to speak in gentle tones the sounds of learning God well and fully.  You are among the few Ron who knows the differenct too and you use both when fools are about.  I congratulate you on finding an outlet for your caring soon as there will be a few of your friends present at York to tell the time with you at home as they are children of the lost Arc of Patience, and they are yours as a friend of the Court.  Thank you one and all for listening.”

END

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JESUS - The WHOLE SUBJECT / The Advent of Jesus in Jerusalem
« on: December 10, 2017, 04:43:58 PM »
Note to readers, I have added more material that was not in the original which I have deleted entirely to get a fresh start with this important and newsy post.  Thanks to all for your patience and excuses to read this again with better annotation than the first transmission afforded us.

The Advent of Jesus in Jerusalem
An Edit of the Original Post on this subject with redaction and additions approved by Michael of Nebadon this morning 10 December 2017

York, Pa
T/R Ron Besser
December 10, 2017


This is Michael and I call upon all who are listening to their own concerns about what is about to happen.  Ron is transmitting me from Salvington right now and I have a message for all to carefully listen to.  

I am leaving Urantia one more time as the Advent of Jesus began with His visit to Jerusalem December 8th 2017, and I request that all of you pray for his appearance any moment and at any time elsewhere on Urantia.  He needs support, and pray for him as a modern and living example of God on earth, and goodwill to man.   He is ready and poised to go at a moment’s notice, but the Father Himself has no real inclination as to the time and place of the planetary announcement of His Return.


You must realize that of the many things that may be corrected in the future is the precise dating of the birth of Jesus.  Looking at your calendar and the history on Urantia makes it nearly impossible to trust your present calendar, the Gregorian Calendar** established about 500 years ago.  From our records we note that Urantia, skipped a beat in rotation sometime around the 5th (fifth) to the 9th (ninth) of September, 7 or early 8, BC by the Gregorian Calendar**.  In actual fact the true date of the eruption of Vesuvius in 79AD was a true calendar event we date as early 39AD (after correcting for pole shifts and other planetary anomalies you do not know of)  but that forces the birth date of Jesus back to 45 BC which goes completely against what tradition has established.  It also goes against the Midwayer research in the Urantia Book, so we are happy to keep the written research of the Midwayers given in the Urantia Book as fully correct for now.

[Note ** The Gregorian calendar was a reform of the Julian calendar. It was instituted in 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, by papal bull Inter gravissimas dated 24 February 1582. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar  For its history]

This is Michael and I saw the event called a pole shift shortly after Jesus was born*** in Bethlehem. and wondered why historians never took it into account, for the earth shuddered and the sphere slowed down by half as the magma beneath the feet of Italy and the Persian lands of Artabanus III.   Artabanus III, took the name of Arsaces XXVIII on his ascension to the Persian throne, as he was one of ten kings that ruled Persia in different areas, but he was among the most powerful and we reference him and his son Darius V or IX, depending on which author you read for Persia’s history.  We prefer to call him Darius V as that is the trued designation of this man, for it was he who me Jesus in Damascus.  It was in Damascus that Jesus was the camel master of a large number of camels transporting goods to Damascus in return for payment to help the new teacher Jesus obtain a lesson on how to finance his mission at that time.   Darius V wrote in his Parchment (number 17) of the transaction and this dates precisely the value of using good historical documents to date such events as the Bestowal on Urantia of the said Jesus Christ.  Darius V referred to Jesus as a merchant of Damascus known as the Scribe of Damascus and referenced the transaction to be easy and fair for what the camel master brought the Persian Empire that day.  

[Note: ***The tense in the sentence is correct as Jesus was the seventh Bestowal Michael needed to become sovereign of the Local Universe of Nebadon, but future scholars will question the tense and for good reason: How could Jesus and Michael be separate enough for Jesus to be unaware of the pole shift and Michael does see it take place from his Salvington Headquarters of Spirit Administration?  The Midwayers often conjectured that Michael of Nebadon was frequently elsewhere quite alive and doing the triumphant business of a Creator Son being sure that Jesus had completed the Bestowal and he was free to work secret sectors of Nebadon quite alone and assuming great responsibility to the Nebadon future universe.  No where better seen is the Midwayer narrative of the tomb where they write that Michael was somehow alive and watching the terrible scene as it unfolded as Jesus died on the cross and the tomb itself empty in spite of two men carried the corpse of Jesus to lay there.  The reader must gather that section for themselves to read.

[Note ****URANTIA Book 188.3.14 “There is good reason for believing that some personality sat in the seat of Caligastia in the system council of the Planetary Princes on Jerusem which convened while the body of Jesus rested in the tomb. “Michael indicates it was the Trinity Ambassador for sure and it may have been Gabriel briefly and it surely was Michael to see to what could be done for Jesus.  Imperator has spoken these things into my ear that I may know what did occur at that time.”  And this for the reader’s consideration: We are led to believe that Michael could be about the rulership of Nebadon, but Salvington could never find where he was on Salvington on this Bestowal and the earlier Bestowals such as for the Melchizedek version.  This suggests that Sonarington, as part of the secret concerning the Bestowal ceremonies all Creator Sons must go through, provides these Creator Sons a place to observe that replicates their powers on their capital spheres, but where they may work alone to either observe urgent Local Universe business on their own orders aside from the Trinity Ambassador, who is always called Immanuel regardless of what Local Universe that may occur in, and who is in charge of the day to day occurrences for resolution on Salvington or other name of a headquarters for a Creator Son.  The statement of the Midwayers which I quoted at the top of this note indicates not one, but probably five personalities who assumed the mantle of the Group of Twenty-four (24) Counselors, now disbanded,  temporarily, to see to it that Jesus entered the morontial properly.  If this is true and you can doubt me, then Michael can transfer his administrative concerns aside from the body of Jesus enough so to see to it that Gabriel understands the nature of the transfer.  All of this is a secret never disclosed to time creatures like ourselves, but we have enough evidence that this Secret of Sonarington, does replete itself well enough that any Creator Son bestowing themselves in human form, can and does use the Sonarington premise that the ability to be and move about as a Creator Son as a human can act independently of that human mind and/or Bestowal.

The Midwayers also report in Paper 155, that the Life and Times of Jesus was a tough assignment, and reading between the lines, they indicate they knew less then than they do now just what happened when the Group of Twenty-Four arose to the occasion by establishing not twenty-one Counselors but twenty-four Counselors as 1) The Governor was assigned to Midwayer ABC-01; 2)  the Planetary Prince was assigned to Machiventa Melchizedek; and 3)  the Prince of All,  known on Salvington, was Michael of Nebadon.  This is not related in the Urantia Book for good reason, as I am broaching a process that Salvington believes is to remain secret and holy, but I do not ever intend to disregard the status of these things, but to speak to the human mind that Sonarington does accommodate the Creator Sons in providing for independent action while they are about the business of the Father is one of their seven Bestowals to earn their Universe Sovereignty.

I am making this digression in this Paper about the Advent of the Second Return of Jesus for good reasons.  In my original paper I omitted a whole section to be spoken to on this subject alone, but got side tracked into the Kings of Persia statements which are so critical too for scholars someday to work out better than I did with a mere half-tracked transmission.  These are hard transmissions today to get a hold of because of the secrecy surrounding the Magisterial Missions which I keep hitting into and getting difficult assignments to stay away from (re: a tape recorder that can’t record for the time being).  In any case we have not looked at something that is quite secret and must move on to where Michael feels more comfortable as he now discusses the heart of God through Jesus in his visit to Jerusalem.  I remind all of you that the Second Return of Jesus must once again INVOKE SONARINGTON to provide Michael alternative speeches as he does with me now while Jesus is stationed in Jerusalem.  I end this note surreptitiously for now. Ron Besser ]


MICHAEL OF NEBADON continues . . .
“I beheld the city of Jerusalem as a mighty fortress in those days [as Jesus], and today I behold it as a little lamb being torn apart by the warlords of the Palestinian clans and the Israeli choice to stand forth with the Trump decision to name Jerusalem as the only capital of Israel.  He has created a great furor but he must never stand again on American soil with out the perjury of disease on spirit, for spirit never meant Jerusalem to be any capital but of Israel, but Israel bowed before Satan once too often and allowed its lands to be confiscated by the trial of Hitler too, for when Hitler seized Egypt, he appended Palestine to his ways and the entire matter will be resolved now with the Paradise Sons of the Magisterial Mission to be published by decree later this month (December 2017) for all to see and hear.  Palestine will have its own state but not next to Israel but next to another Shiite Kingdom they are in full agreement philosophically with today.


The birthplace of Jesus was Bethlehem, and a little village called Bethany, was the closest to the actual site of the Baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist.  Today it is spelled Bethany ( and differently many times in past history)  but scholars evade checking out why this place is so dear to Jesus himself.  That is because it gets confused in learned texts with Bathsheba or other little villages then with similar names near the Jordan River.  John the Baptist baptized Jesus in the Jordan almost inside Bethany but the exact site really has no real name associated with the event except as the Baptism of Jesus.  To the reader who enjoys historical dissertations by Seminary students, here is a read of one such doctorate from a seminary student at the time and the name Bethany is discussed as a miss or hit proposition.   Open:
(https://www.bibleplaces.com/Identification_of_Bethany_Beyond_the_Jordan,_by_J_Carl_Laney.pdf) * A doctoral dissertation by J. Carl Laney (Dallas Theological Seminary, 1977.



DARIUS V, KING OF THE PERSIAN ACROPOLIS NEAR DELPHI -

I was King of the Acropolis at the time Jesus was Bestowed on Urantia.  I met a young man of 30 I thought and I decreed him a fair and equitable man at that time, never realizing he was a Bestowal Son of the Great God of Paradise and as far as I knew at the time, also of Egypt, Palestine, and the Hittite Empire elsewhere.  My knowledge of Jesus and what He stood for was not greatly impressed upon me until I heard that he had been executed by the Romans.  As I lay dying and waiting for my son to appear to succeed me, I rose briefly to hear him declare Israel no friend of Persia, but I died before there could be any action taken against what the Sanhedrin did and Rome carried out to Jesus.  We knew by then he was a great man but had no idea how he was sanctioned by the Father of All on Paradise.  In Parchment Eighteen (18) of my life, I state I met the strange fellow with a golden beard in Damascus and admired his ways as he made sure all the camels were well watered and ready to go after resting for a day and one half.  He ate figs packed in a case he kept by his side and that case also contained his life savings– exactly twelve (12) of your US dollars today.  That was enough to buy a camel in those days and little else, and I had great wealth and no where to put it.  In any case Jesus got his camels together and after unpacking them before me, took them to rest at a hassia on the desert floor nearby.  That term is meant to be understood as a spring in the dessert with palms surrounding, and Jesus went there to refresh his camels for a day and one half and sleep a little himself, as it take five days of being awake all the time to bring the camels to Damascus from what is now Israel today.

As I was King for a long time, I could remember the encounter and taught my people what a great man Jesus was, but they quickly forgot what I told them as we were always at war with someone in those days and that took all the energy the kingdom had to keep awake and vigilant against barbaric raids from our enemies to the north.  I am Darius V or IX as I am sometimes known in the fictitious  histories some scholars write these days.  Good day.


MICHAEL OF NEBADON -
We must come to the conclusion that what is written here is important history to establish once again, but until someone of authority and note grabs hold of these writings we must wait for time to ascend enough to prove them wrong or correct.  What is presented here today is mostly correct and slightly exaggerated with Darius V in order to be sure the modern mind understands that Jesus met kings and princes who noticed nothing or never wrote of him, but Darius V  did write in his parchment records of meeting this man he knew as the Damascus Scribe well enough it stands yet in a museum to be interpreted and read precisely, as it dates the birth time of Jesus very well, as Darius spoke of his age as about 30 and standing tall and well proportioned for the time of beggars and sooth sayers usually danced or rode their way through Damascus in rags and filthy language in order to attract those who did not care what they heard as prophecy in those days.

I am not exaggerating to tell you that Jesus stood out so well as he was kempt and had on clean white robes*** that shone in the dazzling sunlight of those days before the industrial revolution clouded Urantia’s skies.  In our estimation Urantia has been besmirched for a thousand years for between volcanoes blowing their tops off and the coming of the industrial revolution, the skies over Urantia appear a smoky blue compared to planets who had no such thing happen so frequently.

[Note: *** When I got these words about the dress of Jesus I got a picture of him standing in what looked like a classical 18th century painting, and in it he was standing with gorgeous white robe but it had a black, olive green, a maroonish red strip flowing down on his left side of that garment (on the side of his left arm), and I asked Michael I keep seeing the garment with this striking stripe of color.  Michael responded thusly: “Jesus is me Ron, and that is the white robe he wore that day he met Darius V, and the picture you mentally received, that robe belongs to me and not Jesus.  Someone pulled that painting picture to show you and I never wear the robes any more, but they are preserved in my private museum of my Bestowals of the seven types of Creatures I became to become sovereign of Nebadon.  I put that stripe on as a way to dignify that robe I love so much.”]


JESUS -
I speak fully now and briefly.  

The robes the day I met Darius V were of a clean white damask.  As you women may know, it is sheer, light, but very strong and I greatly enjoyed wearing it.  Ron said truthfully, I feel you wearing it Jesus!

Now to business.  I have been in Jerusalem today and yesterday and the day before that as the violence is truly terrible and the rocks are think in the air from hooligans tossing them and firing them as David did to Goliath so long ago in the same manner with the same type of cowhide slingshot in some cases.

I have been in Jerusalem for days, and I see the rabble at its worst.  It is not a pretty picture but understood as the last hurrah over the issue of a capital for Israel as it was truly meant to be.  The Moslem population is not revealed to as Christians are, yet the Christians hold nothing sacred anymore and trample the roads I did once upon a time and never realize they walk where divinity stood and pondered the creation much more deeply than most men do.  Our Transmitter insists to stay out of it but he is also a deep thinker and I will use him to get the message across that God will not be mocked!  I said this in my teachings of long ago and I say again for the people of Urantia, for they think they own the place.  Wait until they learn they own nothing but the shirt on their backs and we are ready to take the citadel of the City of God of Augustine, back and use it as a ruler of decency all over Urantia once again!  I am Jesus. Good day.


The DEITY ABSOLUTE -
“I crept up on Ron as he was ready to send this edit back to the list.  I wish to add this: No one can count Jesus ready to universally acknowledge what Trump has done, but we recognize that He sees it as an opportunity to break the crystallization of diplomatic play down and to start over again as he did by smashing the old rule of not moving the American Embassy there.  He singlehandedly removed the single problem that kept a solution from appearing for half a century, and we are glad he heard the Most Highs whisper in his ear it was time to do it.  We also are glad to see that Trump is an unabashed supporter of the Saudis as they will break up the hegemony of the Shiite axis between Iran and Syria and now Iraq which originally was to remain a Sunni bastion for good, but the Gulf Wars thanks to the stupidity of Saddam Hussein ruined that idea permanently.  We in infinity are very much aware of material developments and see the end before the beginning as to what should transpire and seldom does on Urantia at least.  There should have been a peace conference after the first Gulf War but the Bush family decided to stay out of the affairs of the Middle East until Saddam Hussein insulted his father’s Presidency.  Now we are faced with a split that will never heal until the Moslem religion is defeated for what it should not have become.

“We speak of the Second Return of Jesus and I am apt to remark He has picked a very bad time about Urantia Politics to enter into that realm at this particular time, as the world is in alignment to start yet another World War and this time the United States gets bombed and may never recover as New York City is always a prime target for its financial power and stress concerning the capitalistic life these days.  I am the Deity Absolute mostly as God the Absolute when I speak these things in a transmission to Ron Besser, and he recognizes that I speak through a third party in order to keep infinity out of time and he also recognizes I use Ocilliaya, Master Spirit Four, to transmit these words as I do so today.  In many cases I wish to say hello to this transmitter quite often and he listens but it puts a buzz in his head that almost puts him to sleep and I see why: He carries nothing in that case today as Michael has wrapped him securely into the spirit zone with a white light that astonished even me and it should be seen for its beauty and pageantry as it clears the way for all to speak with Ron if they have business to attend to with him and all of you.  Good day.  I am the Deity Absolute speaking from the Circle of Infinity on Paradise as it weaves its power into the the time zones of the seven Superunvierses.”


MICHAEL OF NEBADON -
“You have completely, or almost completely rewritten the entire first post this thread and post was to appear in.  Write a new thread and call it The Advent of Jesus in Jerusalem and delete the other one.


I also delight in your reasoning concerning the Sonarington secret but in this case with Michael of Nebadon, He never lets that out and did not say anything, as I am Immanuel, the Trinity Ambassador to Salvington, and your explanation satisfies me greatly as it is understandable to human mind as you state it.  It works approximately that way and we will let it stand for now.  I also congratulate the Deity Absolute for being able to finally become somewhat chummy with a human creature the size that exhibits itself as Ron Besser on Urantia, as he calls them as he sees them and his painful situation must cease immediately says the Father but it does not get enacted on in Nebadon because Michael uses it to bring the House that Jack built down to its knees in several situations important to the sixth epochal revelation.  Our work there is tedious and complicated due to the situation on Urantia and the place we had working to disseminate the fifth epochal revelation, but it has failed as well and the Paradise Trinity is not about to loose the sixth epochal revelation as we lost the fifth.  Ron Besser uses the Urantia Foundation as a whipping post because they have failed so often, but the truth of the matter is that the Urantia Foundation failed before it even got off the ground and did not heed Mantutia Melchizedek when he said they must pray daily for help from the Universe and we see you listen carefully Ron and do as we bid.  That is so useful we cannot describe how that will be used in the near and distant future for all.

Now this: As Immanuel I listen to the Paradise Trinity, but as a Day I am subordinated to only the Trinity and the Paradise Father and wield considerable power in the hierarchy of choices available to God to make things work well. I dare not leave this unsaid but the pain you suffer Ron is designed to harm you not yet it distracts you entirely at times and is most unwelcome by all who view you wince to walk at times.  Be assured that will be removed and that medicine called Gabapentin is not badly construed but contains strychnine to calm leg pain and must not be used heavily or you will die of its poison since you have no medical ability to keep it out of your tissues including the heart which is now slightly tinged with that ingredient.  In any case this entire matter ends shortly as the Second Return of Jesus is imminent and we must pray together that it works this time!  Good day. I am Immanuel.”


MICHAEL OF NEBADON -
“Immanuel is correct and I will leave it at that but you cannot figure it out Ron and I do not give you clues but you need rest and relaxation when it is over soon enough as the Jesus Second Return signals the end to all preliminary work you have done as to corporations and set up for personnel to come to York at that point.  It leaves us all gasping for air sometimes but your heart and legs will soon be clear as a princess’ consciousness for divine rulership through the many ways you gave us to be around Urantia all the time.  Good day.”

END

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Discuss This Web Site / Member Responses So Far 07Dec 2017
« on: December 07, 2017, 11:13:25 PM »
For those who wish to become subscribed to the new BCC list I have receive around 18 email addresses so far.  If you wish to read the ABC Summaries again you have to be on the BCC list.  Sometimes I reproduce on this site but not always.  The BCC List and the ABC Summaries are for those who like their revelation hot off the press.

For those who would like to line up to see if you can get a new Urantia Book mailed to you later this year when they are ready for distribution (not now and Mantutia Melchizedek decides who gets the books first), please send me an email with your snail mail address in case you make the cut.  I have no way of knowing how to handle this anyway else.  So far I have received about 12 requests to buy and have the book mailed.  No price is set yet.  One to a customer is for sure.

That is it for now and thank you.   RON

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JESUS - The WHOLE SUBJECT / Talk About Jesus Odds And Ends
« on: December 06, 2017, 09:49:21 PM »
Talk About Jesus Odds And Ends

December 05, 2017 930PM at York Pa
Ron Besser/TR

TR note: I extracted some of this report from a private email I sent Lemuel this morning and remove the personal information almost entirely. What is left is a chance to hear from the Jesus Apostles again, plus some additional commentary from Mother Spirit with some news concerning a few things that should interest you. I also wish it to be known that the proposed changes to my transition did not take place and is explained below in ways I never suspected was true. In any case this is a hodge podge of information and should be an easy read for all. Thanks. Ron Besser



THOUGHT ADJUSTER In High Status:

"Our work is to signal to Lemuel and Ron and to Larry, that your unique status on Urantia is amazing to the Father who believed that Urantia did not have any good for anyone else in the Maser Universe. I am a being you do not know by name or number in almost full mental contact with Ron. . . . It is our doing to Lemuel and Larry and Ron for this: Do not get upset Lemuel when we pull the plug on your rational mind to see how you stand as an animal being on an animal planet like Urantia. Urantia has no guidance yet or now and you must care to be caring to keep yourself well until the Mission is on the ground and incarnations are visible. I am invisible always as I am not a Trinity Teacher Son, but a high Son donated to myself as Michael of Nebadon on the level of Paradisaical speech/ the following message is for all:

"You Lemuel, and you Ron, and Larry too, must understand you carry valuable information for the Magisterial Sons, and they are aware of it for you Ron, but not for what Lemuel carries or what Larry holds. In your case Lemuel, you hold the high standard of love for all and hate for evil. Ron is the same beside you and declares no harm will come to the divine Sons when incarnated. Ron holds the information that is the fail safe virtue of decision making the right way and holds counsel with Melchizedeks and Creator Sons of which there are two of them who work with Ron all day sometimes. Larry, we think, carries the open heart of God, and together you three are monster apparatichik** to cleanse Urantia in your own movements to be soon announced.

[Ron’s note: This must be an Adjuster with Russian Service on Urantia. I do not know who is speaking either other than it or they from Paradise and can morph between any Order of Life in the Universe and speak as them. The work apparatichik refers to the government bureaucracy which is known to be so strong that Czars and Premiers in the Communist Party could not rule them do their bidding all the time. It is a very interesting choice of terms and I wonder if that apples to the three musketeers or to any human who gets into the bureaucracy of the Magisterial Mission on the human side?]



[Ron - The following was another surprise I had. Peter the Apostle to Jesus speaks to what Lemuel cannot help and that is to cry sometimes when spirit speaks deep to the soul. I have learned to control what a friend of mine called the Mercy Blush, and that is the tearing up when speaking a message or explaining something to a convert about spirit, and it so suddenly hits you, you have to stop and take care of the choke and the tears and often we lose a convert for this reason while we cry awhile under the circumstance. Peter the first Apostle chosen by Jesus talks about it for Lemuel below:]
 
“I am Peter:"

PETER, THE FIRST ORIGINAL APOSTLE -

"I am Peter the Apostle and I have this to relate to you in particular Lemuel. You must learn to be good without bawling about it. You Ron have learned the secret and that is to be neutral about what is happening. Most people cannot control it, and Lemuel is among the worst to take on serious spiritual work without breaking into tears. You call it the Mercy Blush Ron after your friend Sue who coined the term. The Mercy Blush is uncontrollable tears and you weep and cannot stop the disillusionment of those before you for losing your cool in instructing them how to go about getting out of a spiritual problem. Also Lemuel seeks to rule the world with goodness but, gracious us, there is no way to do that ever. Worlds are worlds and you need spiritual help to overcome the Mercy Blush. I am Peter the Apostle and wait no longer to say this: I am Peter and that is that for both of you."



MATTHEW , THE SEVENTH APOSTLE CHOSEN BY JESUS -

" You asked Peter Ron, what is going on to treat you with the Apostles again so well, and the answer I may speak is this: Jesus has torn through his miasma about appearing again on such short notice, as Michael sent a message to Paradise yesterday [Ron - about 5 Dec] that He, Michael, was ready for the Second Bestowal of Jesus on Urantia.

This is unprecedented and your feel the Supreme serious upon you now and you are up to receive this, and we know your problem of mind saturation with others lately and that is not a serious concern to we Apostles at the moment. The business at hand I am asked to reveal to you and others, is that Jesus needs to know in what order the divine wishes him to appear, and it is decided by the Creator Son, that Jesus will appear first among those to introduce the Magisterial Mission. You Ron are the least prepared to understand this as you are first in line of all modified humans on Urantia to take on the ideals of Jesus and to teach like Jesus. You need not stand in Continental Square of York, either to do this. We believe Jesus will visit 2709 and leave with you either a new Urantia Book or the Prayer Book he has achieved in his spare time on high. Your life Ron is already upside down with others there and today it is resolved when to go, but until you can celebrate this better, know that Jesus will use you well in the coming day. Also, be assured that God leaves you well Ron, and Lemuel well perfectly fit to take the world on again. Larry Gossett will be also well attended as he now has a Supernaphim at his side that also runs Ron's life keenly again. I am Matthew the Apostle who wrote, 'it is better to receive than to give,’ and that is one of Paul's favorites too. I am Matthew and I wish you all a good day."



SAINT PAUL OF TARSUS speaks to all now:

"I watched Matthew struggle through his transmission to Ron who has fallen apart because all of his memory tags were removed this morning to prevent juice burn.** Our work is frightfully difficult preparing Urantia for the coming Bestowal of Jesus. In any case we must deal with the legged ones called Ron and Lemuel and Larry as they are all fused with one intention in mind, and that is to be used for the development of the Magisterial Mission in the little corners of the world with students that speak little English and wish to have them learn English while you teach about God.

“And finally this as I worry about my students on Urantia:

“Eat well and sleep well as the world will turn dark for days and bitter cold will develop, and later then as the sun arises anew, be able to live well as healthy and ready to be about the business of the Father for Urantia again.”

[** Ron’s note: Those who do not transmit have no idea of all the changes that one experiences as we exchange mental notes with each other and sometime like Paul here does, he feeds it back in the transmission without antecedent meaning. All that is expressed by that quote is that I get a little high on fruit juice because I get so thirsty for it during a transmission for my throat and thirst as I can get dry mouth without it at times. It does not happen all the time but when the transition is really rough on me it does happen.]

MOTHER SPIRIT -  
“We sometimes laugh at Ron for he gets tedious over remarks he knows that do not or cannot make sense to you, but to remove them breaks up the text too much and that is what has explained here although he does not drink at the computer he does go down stairs for a glass of the stuff. As Mother Spirit I am happy to return to this forum fully as I was “away,” from the forum for a few days and came back to find Ron listening to tapes instead of writing or speaking them. Today that is over as he is now instructed to revive his old ways and begin the work of enlivening this forum for all concerned.

“First you must realize that the Apostles who spoke here today are highly energized again because Jesus is coming back so that they can see him and work with him again on the mansion worlds and then on Urantia again. Ron is kept abreast of this work sometimes as he was today and he finds it hard to concentrate because Michael and the surgeons removed a brain spot that keeps him up at night instead of being to easily fall asleep anymore. Most humans grow one to but in Ron it was large enough to disrupt him for his rest needs. He also love the life of a vagabond but has not lived such for decades and is tired and needs a deep rest. Your lives are regulated by spirit after a certain age in your late forties, and Ron was regulated long before that but never gave heed to it except for a couple years. Our work for Jesus is occurring now because what Ron calls the Three Musketeers, (Ron, Lemuel, Larry the three fused ones), are all now regulated similarly and that causes Lemuel to get sleepy at four in the afternoon and Ron at midnight, and we must bring them all together in whatever time zone they are in to ten at night.

“Furthermore, Ron has not be relieved of the painful episodes in his body as promised in a certain transmission yesterday because we found we must regulate the time of Jesus on Urantia gravity response to the Jesus body through Ron himself as he is typically the size of most Urantians in most countries except the United States and Canada. There they are all bigger and bruise less easy than Ron and Jesus will do. To regulate the gravity balance Jesus needs to walk on Urantia we use the gravity body response on Ron and in his brain is a small chip that reads that out to our doctors.

“It is strange to report that Ron has no gravity response whatsoever when in the trance of transmissions. We wonder what that is about. And Paradise reminds us that gravity response to a fused Adjuster is zero as Ron and the other two are being prepared to run a course on high that is quickly dismantling of their human traits and fully inform them of their morontial and then their spiritual traits. Jesus holds the record for being quick to assemble his life course and take it on quickly, having died on the Cross and made it to Finaliter status in twelve hundred Urantia years, and we expect Ron to do it in about fourteen hundred years. In so many ways Ron seems to detract from none of this as he is ready to serve with our without kudos and he knows it matters not how rich or famous he becomes as he has already decided he is theirs and not his to direct toward the Deity Adventure on Paradise. And now this for all of you:

“We are optimistic to run the appearance of Jesus before the end of this year. Ron broke some that news incorrectly last night as it was deleted from our dais to speak to it but Michael did it from memory and had some details wrong. I see no heavenly display although it was once planned and got transmitted last night, but there will be an unusual sunset if you are not cloudy when this occurs as the sun will move from west to east about three lengths of the sun itself as Urantia is being adjusted in its orbit by the Power Directors to obtain a better alignment with Uversa as Uversa must use Urantia now as its beacon star to guide space craft in this part of the universe.



“And: Jesus will be brought from Uversa on a space craft since he is incarnated now on Uversa and as Ron says to me in the transmission: ‘I did not know Uversa could handle material incarnations,’ and yes it can Ron and several more ways you do not know too. In lasting peace, Jesus reminds all that the House that Jack [Urantia civilizations] built is destroyed finally and great changes are about to happen on Urantia because of that.

“We are deciding who is going to run human resources on Urantia from the divine side and we pick Mantutia Melchizedek and that is with Ron at his side as he must learn how to select people for skills and not looks or attitude exactly. We close with a friendly chip at those on this forum to say that all things consist in God and that includes Mother Spirit and Michael of Nebadon and wish you a good night for now. Mother Spirit.”

MICHAEL OF NEBADON -
“I watch Ron painfully peck at the keyboard far down from his usual performance when he has everything working right. He needs R and R badly and he gets some soon later this month in order to rest him up for later work to come in February or March when most of what we want on the ground is visible and it is safe to come out and walk the streets again. I also wish all well for now as I have a great announcement coming soon, perhaps tomorrow or Friday– we will see. Good day.”

END


ADDENDUM about thirty minutes later I need to add.  I sent a personal message with this in today and it should be shared as Mark, the Gospel of Mark writer, had this to say about the Last Supper for your information

MARK - the little son of God who helped to arrange the Last Supper for Jesus shortly before he was crucified:
"I am Mark, and I alone wrote the Gospel of Saint Mark as they call me in the Bible. 
"I am the Gospel of Mark, as I live well on mansion world five today and that is nearly graduation time for me to become a full spirit person.  When we die in the flesh we sew the body in a grave, and we move to a new body that your eyes cannot yet see.  It is a body of a fine mist and is quite beautiful to those who can view it.  I say this because so much death abounds on our planet yet and people have no idea what happens when they move on to the higher spheres.  The one who knows me best in mind on this planet spirit calls not earth but Urantia (You Ran Sha), and he can do this by special permission of the giant in spirit, our Creator Son, who Bestowed Himself as Jesus and will do so again shortly for all to see Jesus as he is today.

 
"In preparation of this speech I have to speak at least of something that is dear to your hearts today as was to me two thousand ten years ago today.  In that speech Jesus gave as the honored guest as the Supper we laid before him of fish and shrimp and potatoes as we loved that fare long before it became popular in the West.  Our dinner had wine and a kind of juice no longer available because the fruit that produced it has gone extinct due to drought and fire and invasion.  Nonetheless we drank Kaba Juice, and that is the right spelling and not the double AA found in other meanings in the Jewish reverence for God.  It is sweet as sweet cherry juice but had a tang your cherry juice does not have.  Jesus in particular loved the juice as it quenched his thirst easily.  The Supper was held in a nook of the home of my parents and while their name is forgotten today, they held Jesus so well, they baked him what you would call a cake today for his tenth birthday long ago now.  Ten years old in the Jewish faith that time held all who got to be ten years of age were becoming men already and the celebration of manhood could begin and often a cake was baked in that honor.  I am Mark and I recall all of that day's precious moments, and I now yield to the Apostle Matthew, whom ron particularly loves for the Gospel about the lilies of the field."

 
The APOSTLE MATTHEW speaks to the Congregation of Minister John Ruland:
"I am Matthew, and I am the least of the Apostles, but I gained fame because I bothered to sit down one day and produce my memory on parchment of may days working with Jesus.  In the memorance I stumbled on an old teaching he used to use but no longer used by the time he died on the Cross.  In that dying Jesus did I could not contain myself as neither can the transmitter and he vows never to allow harm to anyone in the Magisterial Mission or for the Return of Jesus.  I am Matthew and the idea of that the lilies of the field was so important to Ron your transmitter, is that Ron is always beset with personal problems of a grand nature in spirit as well, and he too looked at the gorgeous flowers that grow wild in farmer's meadows and fields and took heart from them.  The parable of the lilies of the field struck him so well he produced an illuminated manuscript and presented to his college its work which they still hold in high honor to its designer: God helped tremendously with that project and his history teacher today considers it his finest achievement as a teacher to have a student so arranged that he could produce what was a lump of ten pages or so of parchment paper and painted by hand of my text about the lilies of the field.  I am Matthew and I love the book as I see it used now and then today in history classes for the medieval of heart to learn about.  You are the wit we miss Ron as Jesus did and we love them both.  As the Apostle Matthew, I ask one thing from all who read this: Give Unto Others as You Have Given Unto Yourselves. Matthew."










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