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General Discussion / Re: The mid-january meeting
« on: Today at 07:55:34 AM »
Finally, at last, there are some good news coming out from these four days meetings at York, eventhough there are still that are kept secret and if I have to enumerate them, they are as follows :

1)   The usefullness of the Contact Commision is now recognized from above.
2)   The water machine is one among the other projects that are to be attended to.
3)   The Second Return of Our Lord Jesus
4)   The funding of a bank account with money from Salvington for the Missions’purposes
5)   The dissemination of the SER
6)   The ending of Ron’s health problem.

While waiting for the other secret news to be divulged, it is now time to put one foot before another and moving forward with the will and blessings of the Universal Father. Domtia

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General Discussion / Re: message by Chris Maurus
« on: January 18, 2019, 01:16:24 AM »
The fact that Urantia is put on a probationary period, does that mean we are isolated from the local Universe of Nebadon as at the time of the Lucifer rebellion ? However, this decision does not question Michael’s sovereignty and even there can be positive sides of it, for example when dealing with those evil forces that try to impede the Great Plan. I hope they will get trapped in their own malevolent endeavour and that all the remnants will be swept away definitely from Urantia. On the other hand, it is rejoicing to note that transmissions are still ongoing despite this decision. Domtia

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General Discussion / Re: The mid-january meeting
« on: January 17, 2019, 10:58:37 AM »
‘‘ If I may speak for all three of we Commissioners, we all agreed that the time table to provide what the Universe wanted in epochal revelation and periodic revelation, it was so tight, we would volunteered that priority to the Universe even without them stating it had to be done.’’

So, if I read it well, the publication of the Periodic Revelation which will be in full swing only at the end of 2019, as well as the Epochal Revelation are still in the agenda for this year. Do we know yet the timeframe for the dissemination of the SER ? If it is one of the secrets that have been discussed, I understand that there is no answer to my question. Domtia

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It has been said, not long ago, if I remember well, that the fused ones, in particular, are the main targets of Lucifer’s followers still wandering around and that you (fused ones) are used as ‘flesh-bait’ to catch those maleficent forces. At the time this was revealed, it made me wonder why is there not a protection instead, since the fused ones are called upon to play a great part in the reclamation of Urantia. Your transmission, Amethyst – I thank you for that – gives me the assurance that, eventhough we are not completely done with those negative energies, we are not left alone in this battle and that we have still at our fingertips the necessary protection from our Celestial family. Domtia

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Transcribed from Lemuel’s audio transmission

Man proposes, God disposes

Lemuel : Good morning everyone. Our talk this morning is simply to say ‘‘Man proposes, God disposes’’. I am sure you all know this expression and it is certainly true and I suppose the reasons that we want to mention this morning is the fact that so many of us here on the forum are equally waiting the results of these important meetings in York, Pennsylvania. There are many things that we, as human beings, would want to hear, coming out of these meetings. It is quite obvious that any man or woman or even child these days are aware of the situation globally, things that need to be addressed and war is the no1 of course, because without peace you can do nothing else.

Man proposes and God disposes. All of us, I am sure here on the forum, have had hopes and desires throughout our lives, only to find them dashed and come to nothing, simply because they were not intended for us anyway. So, you understand what I am trying to say, no matter what we want as a human being, no matter what our desires may be, there is that Fragment of God within us all, our Beloved Indwelling Thought Adjuster who knows prefectly well what we need and He, and only He, supplies it, He is our guide, He leads us to what we need, because indeed as you all know, we have a mutual destiny, your Beloved Thought Adjuster and yourself. This is the reason, above any other, why it is so necessary to always bear this in mind : surrender to your Thought Adjuster, it is He and only He who should guide your life.

Man propses and God disposes. It is not wrong to wish for things or one thing, of course it is not, but bear in mind you do not know what is really right for you, perhaps you think you do, but that is only your ego. No, surrender only to your Beloved Thought Adjuster and let Him dispose of those things that you want, you would like to have or to see. As one goes through life, one hopes eventually to gain some wisdom through one’s experiences and this is the case for all of us. We can only ever learn whatever needs to be learned through our own experience, not through someone else experience. You can listen to others of course and respect what they say and keep an openmind about what they experience, but it is not necessary that every human being has exactly the same experience. No, we are all different and although we have many experiences that are extremely similar, they will not be identical.

So, our talk this morning is simply to remind you all : man proposes and God disposes, and the God in you is your Beloved Indwelling Thought Adjuster, so be ever mindful of this fact and it is a fact – let Him dispose of those things that you would like, allow Him to continue guiding your life towards eventual perfection. This is our talk this morning, I thank you all for listening and I bid you all a very good day. Domtia

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General Discussion / Re: The mid-january meeting
« on: January 16, 2019, 01:29:38 AM »
Thank you Ron for your quick reply, but I don’t want to be too annoying here, I am just sharing a feeling of fear about the IRS guys poking their nose and enquiring about the source of income when large amount of money coming in. Eventhough there is no obligation to do such, but it still remains we have to prove there is ‘no stolen money’ and that can be a stumbling stone on the way of running Starbridge properly. Anyway, we are making a step forward and let us see what comes out of it. Domtia

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General Discussion / Re: The mid-january meeting
« on: January 16, 2019, 12:18:16 AM »
About the change in status of Starbridge – I am not sure if I get it right, so I stand for correction – my understanding is that Starbridge will go from a Group to that of a Coventry, in other words from charity to a making-profit company, allowing to receive donations as money funding and paying taxes. I am scratching my head trying to make the difference between donations and money funding and from what could Starbridge eventually make profit or receive income as proof for the IRS ? Thanks for clarification.

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General Discussion / Re: The mid-january meeting
« on: January 15, 2019, 01:16:59 AM »
Eventhough, the invitations to attend the mid-January meetings have been declined for whatever reasons, as it is pointed out in Lemuel’s yesterday audio transmission, we can all show our interest and mark our presence in spirit, by joining in a prayer ; just follow the link. Domtia

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Here we are, the 15th of January 2019, a memorable date for the book and as it is suggested by Lemuel in his post above, let us create a circle of positive energy during these meetings, by joining in a thoughtful prayer all together and by so doing we show our attendance in spirit. Here is my prayer :

‘‘Dear Universal Father, thou who art in Heaven, in Your Compassion and Love for Your Urantian children, you have dared keep a merciful look upon us, we who are often distraught in this world of luciferian rebellion. We thank You wholeheartedly for not letting us down, but to come to our rescue by bringing back to Your Fold what is Yours. We all pray that these meetings between humans and Celestials, starting with to-day, the 15th of January 2019, may be succcessful under Your Own Care. AMEN’’

To all, you can duly add your prayer to Lemuel’s post if you feel bent to do so. Thanks

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Transcribed from Lemuel’s audio transmission

Attending the meetings

Lemuel : Good afternoon everyone. I want to talk this afternoon about ‘Attending the meetings’. I am sure you’re all aware of the meetings taking place now to-morrow in York, in Ron’s house and we have been invited those who are able to attend, I wish to have been attendng myself but I have to cancel, but that really does not matter. I think we can all attend. All of us members and guests, we can all attend these meetings, we can be there in spirit, even if we cannot be there physically.

So, I would like you all to imagine, if you will, that we are all surrounding Ron Besser’s house, hand in hand, completely surrounding Ron’s property, at 2709 Sunset Lane. We can all be there, giving our support with our loving thoughts and our sincere prayers for the success of these meetings, so very important. So, I would like to say a special thanks to Ron Besser for everything that he has done on behalf of all of us and the tremendous physical suffering that he still has to support. How this man is still alive, I do not know ?

I would also like to thank Larry Gossett and Steven Gitz, and that my thoughts and prayers are with you for the all of this week, praying that you will be able to hold on and to do what is necessary, because I know it will be a very hard work for all of you, but I want you to know that the rest of us here on the forum, those who are willing to attend, we shall be there, hand in hand, surroundng you all at 2709 Sunset Lane and we shall stay for the duration of the meetings. I think it is a beautiful thought and I would like to think that all the members and guests would like to join and take part in attending these meetings.

So, this is just a short message this evening, inviting all the members and guests here to attend these meetings in York this week and I for one will definitely be there and I hope to see you all there to-morrow. Thank you all very much for listening, I bid you a good evening, bye-bye for now. Domtia

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General Discussion / Re: The mid-january meeting
« on: January 14, 2019, 01:18:28 AM »
The countdown is on and rolling, on the eve of this ‘‘Grand Rendez-Vous’’ between humans and Celestials in York PA, where important decisions will be taken that will change, I hope for the best, Urantia’s course of history. We don’t know yet how many invitees there are to be in these gatherings, but I suspect that there are some who are already on the spot right now and I imagine that Ron will not be alone in organizing which I qualify to be a forthcoming ‘Spiritual Feast’, so as to make things going smoothly. However, our best wishes and prayers to all participants and with the Father’s blessing, may we hear good news soon. Domtia

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Transcribed from Lemuel’s audio transmission

A time of uncertainty

Lemuel : Good evening everyone. Our talk this evening is simply about ‘A time of uncertainty’. Indeed now it is true to say that a time of uncertainty is upon us all. We are all fully aware of the upcoming meetings this week in York, the importance of which cannot be obtructed. It will certainly prove to be a before and after event that to some degree or another will form all of our lives for the future for all of us on the forum. It will certainly be a very interesting thing to see the results that we will see when these meetings end.

Speaking personally, I feel calm and assurance that all is well and this is normal for me because, as you all know, my Beloved and I are one, I am always with Him and He in me. It can be the same for each and everyone of you when you become ever mindful of the fact that He, your Beloved Indwelling, is you and He has been with you since your childhood and He should form part of every moment of your waking life. So, we have this time of great uncertainty upon all of us as we wait the outcome of these meetings in York and there is nothing that any of us can do, other than to pray for all those concerned, those in spirit, our Celestial Family and all those humans who will be there at York, taking part in these meetings.

So, dear brothers and sisters, I invite all of you to please be mindful now, constantly mindful of what is about to take place this coming week in York. As I mentioned in the beginning, the importance of these meetings cannot be over-estimated and so our prayers are needed and we do that clearly and sincerely with all our hearts and veins for the successful outcomes of these meetings.

It is also true to say that in any situation of uncertainty, there is also of course doubt, but doubt must never be allowed to grow into something fearful, not at all, we have nothing to fear. One can become doubtful over a particular outcome, but one should and can remain positive and pray again for the successful outcome of what is to take place.

So, although we all now face a time of uncertainty, but we can also take comfort in the knowledge and certainty that what will be, will be according to the Will of Father, and it will be done. We can rest and take comfort with that. Uncertainty at the moment is, but the final outcome, I am sure, will be according to the Will of Father. So, I leave you now this evening with these words and I hope that you can remain calm and peaceful. Enjoy the rest of the weekend that you have and we may all look forward to a successful week of meetings in York.

This is Lemuel, I thank you all for listening and I bid you all a good evening, bye-bye for now. Domtia

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General Discussion / Re: The mid-january meeting
« on: January 12, 2019, 01:23:24 PM »
Thank you Ron, LarryG and al for sharing your thoughts about the up-coming meeting and I give my thanks also to Spirits who speak through Ron. It is reassuring to know that we are all part, members and guests, of this enormous endeavour, full of surprises in store. It is understandable that, for reasons of state, everything cannot be revealed for now, but I hope that we will learn more as time goes by. I love the idea of streaming a meeting, not to foolproof that it is real, but only for the pleasure to eyeview the participants and how it all comes about, so as we can say later on, for memories, that we have been there also via technology ; we are all longing for this moment to concretize.

@Ron, in relation to your illness, we have all heard it before that your pain will soon be ended and I hope – we all pray – that this time it will not be another hopeless promise ; it has lasted too long, there must be a remedy and I am confident that it will come to terms in one way or another. On another note, in every organization there is a head of staff to lead the way. Where there is a teamwork, there is a leader ; a leadership is needed to keep the team working together. Your status as a leader is not usurped, you are worth it for all you have achieved up to now and I personally feel comfortable with that. Domtia

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General Discussion / The mid-january meeting
« on: January 12, 2019, 01:01:53 AM »
It is expected, apart from the three Commisionners, that there will be some guests attending the mid-january meeting in York which will be, apparently, a U-turn in the development as far as our participations in the Missions, for us members, are concerned. For those of us who will not be able to move on to York to attend this meeting and to witness, with a direct eyes-contact, what will be delivered by Spirits, I am just pondering about the possibilities of inaugurating, in advance of the presumably 31st january date, the phone gathering on that special occasion. We are just three days away, it is perhaps a bit too late to organize such a meeting, but I would like your feedback about this. Thanks and Domtia.

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AUDIO TAPE Transmissions Here / Re: Audio Transmission / Don´t Panic!
« on: January 11, 2019, 11:58:47 PM »
Transcribed from Lemuel’s audio transmission

Don’t panic

Lemuel : Good evening everyone. Our talk this evening is simply entitled : ‘Don’t panic’. A following-on from yesterday’s transmission about ‘Obstacles’, we want to mention a situation where you are confronted with unsurmountable problem seemingly and you decide that you can do nothing about it, but you keep searching for a solution. You cannot stop thinking about it, you begin to worry about it and it becomes stressful. Sooner or later, it begin to panic a little that you may never find a solution to this problem. Well, you all know from previous experiences, I am sure, that when you have a seemingly no solution to a problem, you try to sleep on it at least, things generally are better in the morning when you slept on a particular problem.

I would like to illustrate something for you that perhaps would help. Imagine that you and your family are living in a beautiful bungalow which is a single story building and it is a time when one morning you wakeup to discover that you are completely snowed in. The snow has fallen during night times so heavily you cannot even open the front door to leave your house and so there is nothing to do. You have tools in your garage but you cannot leave the house to go to the garage, to get the tools, to clear the snow away. So, there is nothing to do, but of course you still worry about it, but luckily you have plenty of food and drinks and you are warmed inside your bungalow. You cannot leave, you are completely snowed in, so eventually you surrender to the situation, because in fact there is nothing else you can do.

So, imagine the situation of a family who has been snowed in for 72hrs, 3 days and 3 nights, without being able to leave their home and wakingup on the 4th morning only to find that the snow has melted, the temperature has risen and the snow has gone. So, what does this tell you ? It tells you that there are situations, there are problems that you simply cannot do anything about and there is no point whatsoever in getting stressful or even panicking by the fact that you are unable to do anything about it, you are helpless in that situation. Dear brothers and sisters, you can only surrender. If it is really true that there is absolutely nothing you can do about it, then surrender that situation and you will find eventually, sooner or later, the situation will resolve itself, exactly like the melting snow which allows the family, eventually, to leave their house after 3 days and 3 nights.

This is a simple illustration for you to understand that there are times when you simply cannot do anything about it and so simply surrender. Obstacles are put into your path as a learning process as we mentioned yesterday, but there are also lessons. So, the lesson to-day of course is when you really cannot do anything about it, then it is correct to do nothing because you have no options and so surrender to that, it is that simple. If there is nothing to do, it literally means that there is nothing you can do and so do not panic, accept the situation as it is presented to you and then simply surrender, be patient and the problem will go away.

Well here we are another Friday, the weeks go by so quickly, so I wish each and everyone of you a very pleasant weekend and I sincerely hope you will not be confronted with unsurmountable problem and trust that you will have the free and happy weekend. Thank you for listening, bye-bye for now. Domtia

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