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Pliktarious, you are right.  End of February-- six weeks he said.  That is more in keeping with the announced date of March 10, 2018 noted earlier for the start.

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The best I can tell you is to say it means what it says as there is no further information available right now,  Ron

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Michael of Nebadon

The CHRIST RETURNS  (ANNOUNCED 17 January 2018)
York, Pennsylvania at 1030am Local Time
January 17, 2018

“I am announcing quickly for now:

“Christ returns to Urantia in about six weeks.  This places that appearance about mid February this year of 2018.  It will be near the York area for publication of the announcement and the appearance of Jesus there in some manner.

“We rebuild those buildings Ron showed you in pictures at
http://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=9796.msg64100#msg64100


“I make this announcement shortly after receiving a cup of coffee from the Father this morning and it was so fantastic I could hardly wait for Ron to become conscious again and to let you all know what is being favored here today.

“I close this quickly because now we must arrive in York with no fanfare and clear those buildings for our occupancy and then leave you all to gauge what will happen when Ron takes his Oath of Service in the building he calls “L shaped” in those two photos.  The castle across the street is just as impressive as it was when they built it in 1878 and not 1873 as Ron reported.  It will be MOVED down the street and Ron suggested a grassy plaza with a large spray of water in it and I suggest that it be used for another building we will built even more impressive than the castle you see there now.  Good day.  Michael of Nebadon.”
END

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Here are two vintage pictures.

1) The modern building selected on Continental Square in York for the Magisterial Mission HQ.  It is "shaped" recently renovated and to be built out by the powers to be for our offices in  York.  The address is One Market Way West

2) The second picture is of the apartment (now) building directly across the street from the Magisterial Mission HQ proposed.  It was built about 1875 or so and was first used as a hotel, but is now residential apartments for use by those mostly elderly and needing living space on their own.
         The green background truncated text says The apartments are seen from the NE quadrant of the square looking at the apartments on the SW corner of the square, and the proposed MM HQ building sits on the NW corner of the square.

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First Office Steps For York PA for The Magisterial Mission
York, PA 1230PM Local Time
January 15, 2018

MARGUL, TRINITY TEACHER SON SPEAKS:

“I am speaking off the Mount of Jerusem this morning because we have a special guest.  I dare not name him as you will never meet him but the higher authorities use him to understand the attitude of the Father on Paradise.

“He is the Father in personal form visiting Michael of Nebadon to discuss the Magisterial Mission about to erupt on Urantia in a few short weeks.  We have assigned March 10, 2018 as the official start of the Magisterial Mission and that it remains, but Serara has already assigned to Ron his view of what will be done immediately even before March 10th noted above.

“It seems Sue missed a cue which Ron reminded her to look at again.  He asked the right questions to a transmitter who is quite good but she thinks in spurts and misses pertinent cues otherwise.  Let this remind you Sue to keep your thought processes alive and stop when you feel alerted and do not pass it by until you sense you have to as happened in this case.

“The Visitor is available as a speaker now.


IMMANUEL SPEAKS FOR THE FATHER ENTITY -

“I am Immanuel, and I arrive to train these Melchizedeks how to use God the Supreme in administration.  Ron knows how tough this is when he used some of it months ago and was very glad to give it up as it was harsh and basic training in its ways.  Ron will not be subject to that administration at first but will later be forced to use it as the Planetary Supreme will work with Ron for days to train his mind to the business at hand and stop worrying about money and house appearance and so on as all of that is being tended to for him now on high. 

“I affirm that the offices in York, Pennsylvania, will be ready in a short while as we intend to take the entire north-west quadrant of the former square of York, Pa., and make our offices resplendent once more in what has become a very dull little town/city.

“Larry and Lemuel will not arrive in York until we have the offices ready to use and we intend to take the entire building for our use and they will move gladly once we have them moving at all.  Our work is to provide York and the State of Pennsylvania a new lease on life and the Mayor of York, one named mayor elect, Michael Helfrich.  Be assured we are going to clean house and that means that Ron’s office as the Minister of the Interior will have not only its own floor but the top floor as an office used by the public.  In it will be Lemuel and Larry Gossett and Sue Whiley and Wendy Winter.

“Now I have made myself clear on who goes where but have not indicated who fills the first three floors.  The first floor will have a first class restaurant. The second floor is the grand conference room already wired for televison, radio, and internet streaming.  This is where the present York Council meets and they will be moved with the Mayor elsewhere.


“The Second Floor is also for Melchizedek offices as are third floor offices for Mantutia and the Magisterial Sons and their Guests, and the while the first floor will have a snazzy restaurant in it, it is also large enough for shops we will install for souvenirs and other things the public can buy to take home with them.  The new offices cover about all of the northwest quadrant of a circular square once upon a time, and it will be restored to its former grandeur of a round square and lots of tall building in the southeast quadrant where big banks and one of two Court Houses now resides.

“Our work commences soon and you believe it is one of the best ever jobs you will ever have had as it is everything with perfect direction and no money problems as you experienced with every civil engineering firm you worked for as that is the nature of that business.  We work to save the planet and it starts in your back yard Ron.


MICHAEL OF NEBADON

“I affirm all of this news today.  I also affirm the pain problem for Ron is ending tonight again and this time for good.  We see tears of gratitude flow as it has been awful but it is ending now.

“Ron made an impassioned plea  after Lemuel broadcast Majeston in an audio tape today.  Go look at it for your own information and this should answer Bryan_G’s vitriolic attack on Ron this morning and who was removed for now until he cools down.  Ron did experience hacking into our normal communication system and Majeston now insures no one can do it any more. Go read it.

“Finally, all of you must congratulate Dominick this morning as he now sees what is really going on with Ron and wishes him all the best, and that is because Dominick reached out to Ron after the attack was sent to the list by Bryan_G whom Ron still thinks is very important to take on unless he cannot be cured of a paranoia that swoons his mind when he does not eat right and so.  Dominick now knows he has a chance to come to York if he fails not to fuse, and Ron rightly predicted that so long as Dominick proceeds as he does now it is possible to have another fused human to work for the Magisterial Mission with the others who have fused to date from one to three years from now.  Quite a heady experience for one so young yet.  In any case we close this and our visitor from Paradise who shall remain nameless will report to out transmitters too.  Sue you watch out what names you transmit without asking if they are new!  Good day. 

END Speakers: Margul, Trinity Teacher Son; Immanuel of Salvington; Michael of Nebadon; and indirectly, The FATHER through the unnamed Entity -
MESSAGE TO BOARD: First Office Steps  at 1230PM 011518
York, PA

MARGUL, TRINITY TEACHER SON SPEAKS:

“I am speaking off the Mount of Jerusem this morning because we have a special guest.  I dare not name him as you will never meet him but the higher authorities use him to understand the attitude of the Father on Paradise.

“He is the Father in personal form visiting Michael of Nebadon to discuss the Magisterial Mission about to erupt on Urantia in a few short weeks.  We have assigned March 10, 2018 as the official start of the Magisterial Mission and that it remains, but Serara has already assigned to Ron his view of what will be done immediately even before March 10th noted above.

“It seems Sue missed a cue which Ron reminded her to look at again.  He asked the right questions to a transmitter who is quite good but she thinks in spurts and misses pertinent cues otherwise.  Let this remind you Sue to keep your thought processes alive and stop when you feel alerted and do not pass it by until you sense you have to as happened in this case.

“The Visitor is available as a speaker now.


IMMANUEL SPEAKS FOR THE FATHER ENTITY -

“I am Immanuel, and I arrive to train these Melchizedeks how to use God the Supreme in administration.  Ron knows how tough this is when he used some of it months ago and was very glad to give it up as it was harsh and basic training in its ways.  Ron will not be subject to that administration at first but will later be forced to use it as the Planetary Supreme will work with Ron for days to train his mind to the business at hand and stop worrying about money and house appearance and so on as all of that is being tended to for him now on high. 

“I affirm that the offices in York, Pennsylvania, will be ready in a short while as we intend to take the entire north-west quadrant of the former square of York, Pa., and make our offices resplendent once more in what has become a very dull little town/city.

“Larry and Lemuel will not arrive in York until we have the offices ready to use and we intend to take the entire building for our use and they will move gladly once we have them moving at all.  Our work is to provide York and the State of Pennsylvania a new lease on life and the Mayor of York, one named mayor elect, Michael Helfrich.  Be assured we are going to clean house and that means that Ron’s office as the Minister of the Interior will have not only its own floor but the top floor as an office used by the public.  In it will be Lemuel and Larry Gossett and Sue Whiley and Wendy Winter.

“Now I have made myself clear on who goes where but have not indicated who fills the first three floors.  The first floor will have a first class restaurant. The second floor is the grand conference room already wired for televison, radio, and internet streaming.  This is where the present York Council meets and they will be moved with the Mayor elsewhere.


“The Second Floor is also for Melchizedek offices as are third floor offices for Mantutia and the Magisterial Sons and their Guests, and the while the first floor will have a snazzy restaurant in it, it is also large enough for shops we will install for souvenirs and other things the public can buy to take home with them.  The new offices cover about all of the northwest quadrant of a circular square once upon a time, and it will be restored to its former grandeur of a round square and lots of tall building in the southeast quadrant where big banks and one of two Court Houses now resides.

“Our work commences soon and you believe it is one of the best ever jobs you will ever have had as it is everything with perfect direction and no money problems as you experienced with every civil engineering firm you worked for as that is the nature of that business.  We work to save the planet and it starts in your back yard Ron.


MICHAEL OF NEBADON

“I affirm all of this news today.  I also affirm the pain problem for Ron is ending tonight again and this time for good.  We see tears of gratitude flow as it has been awful but it is ending now.

“Ron made an impassioned plea  after Lemuel broadcast Majeston in an audio tape today.  Go look at it for your own information and this should answer Bryan_G’s vitriolic attack on Ron this morning and who was removed for now until he cools down.  Ron did experience hacking into our normal communication system and Majeston now insures no one can do it any more. Go read it.

“Finally, all of you must congratulate Dominick this morning as he now sees what is really going on with Ron and wishes him all the best, and that is because Dominick reached out to Ron after the attack was sent to the list by Bryan_G whom Ron still thinks is very important to take on unless he cannot be cured of a paranoia that swoons his mind when he does not eat right and so.  Dominick now knows he has a chance to come to York if he fails not to fuse, and Ron rightly predicted that so long as Dominick proceeds as he does now it is possible to have another fused human to work for the Magisterial Mission with the others who have fused to date from one to three years from now.  Quite a heady experience for one so young yet.  In any case we close this and our visitor from Paradise who shall remain nameless will report to out transmitters too.  Sue you watch out what names you transmit without asking if they are new!  Good day. 

END

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Lemuel, I thank you for what is a very valuable service,  and I do wonder if others even understand what is being conveyed here by Majeston?

Well, let me tell it to you and hope other transmitters read this:

1) Reflectivity circuits have been made more robust and sturdier, they can handle all the traffic now.

2) There is more than one type reflectivity service for different kinds of calls, conference calls, specialist technology calls, and above all to human calls directly from Paradise (e.g Ocilliaya or Trinity personnel and more).  What comes to mind is we now have multiplex-like service.

3) Majeston has personally assured me I will no longer be interfered with as I complained in a post or two in the past few days.  No more hacking!  There are as Pronto warns, some characters out there who enjoy making communications to humans very difficult.  I will not call this evil but I could and as the angel said to Lucifer, "I will not judge you but get behind me!"

NO MORE HACKING!  NO MORE INTERFERENCE.  MOST OF YOU HAVE NEVER GIVEN THIS A THOUGHT I ASSUME AND NOW WE ARE SEALED OFF FROM CRUCIAL INTERFERENCE FOR GOOD.  WE HAVE SAFE COMMUNICATIONS AGAIN.

I want all of you to ask God something: where do we put those who are friends of the court that are out human brothers and sisters and keep them safe from the hackers who still can get at the Nebadon Communication channel circuitry?  Think about this.  Do we ask Michael to pull the channel ware down?  And then ask for all channel to be outlawed so we do not get what I got and stopped?  They can really turn a yes to a no and a policy change notice not a policy change notice - we must deal as Michael did two millennia ago with the interference of rebels on Urantia.  There are no rebels on Urantia now but in the wider universe where some can hide they watch our transmission circuits and can hack in.  I experienced it myself somewhat but Michael kept it from spreading.  If you are a transmitter discuss this on the board or here or wherever you can.  As a transmitter you are now being placed on the reflectivity circuit and the normal transmission circuits are being taken down.  Those who channel run the risk of confabulation of message.

Lemuel, this message is extremelyh important and I thank Majeston and the powers to be for the update you gave this evening.    Ron

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Discuss This Web Site / Bryan Banned 011518
« on: January 15, 2018, 12:24:33 PM »
January 15, 2018 at York Pa at noon local time

I am Michael.

We just banned Bryan_G until there is reckoning over the matter between him and the Magisterial Son Rayson.  Ron waited a long time to take my advice as he considers Bryan_G and to ban him a moral issue because Bryan is considered a working member on the science team that Rayson chairs to provide better graphical devices and drawings to explain universe workings.  Ron considers Bryan helpful and always read to decide how to change the posters or drawing you all like to receive.  We also have another problem in that the Rayson web site is locked and we cannot get access to it for now.

Let me return to the situation with Bryan.  Ron correctly guesses that Bryan has ingensted ingredients foreign to his mind and body.  The result is paranoia in the extreme as the post that was deleted showed signs of hallucination as Ron told someone in a private email when they spoke to what was going on.  The only way to restore good will and not dwell on untrue accusations from an unhappy member is to ban them and let their own health and sanity return and then see if they wish to continue on this site to make their sterling contributions to understanding our universe better and its potential.

Ron has also noted with great interest to me that we suddenly have a spate of unhappy campers who dwell on admin as the culprit in these doings.  Well not so as the culprit is disillusion of faith in all of them and Ron in admin understands perfectly well that the non appearance of the Magisterial Mission after so much expectations were forwarded to us in prayer and supplication.  But Bryan is a special case and we dare not explore the history that got him to go to Tobago, but it is germane to say he fled there under threat of arrest for something he did not do.  He is to be brought back to America and lead a perfectly normal life soon as living the hell he has had to in the Caribbean.

Before I turn this back over to Ron, I have this to say to Rayson and Ron together:

You both value Bryan but the tail must never wag the dog, but the dog must be assured the tail is worthy at the end for good balance in walking and running and saying how happy the dog may be for his master.  In any case Bryan_G is to be welcomed back once these difficulties are worked out between him and Rayson and Ron stands ready to put him back on the list in good graces.  We cannot have messages from a mentally deranged members for a day and it has been deleted to preserve a good garden appearance and no the mess Bryan made in the garden this morning.

I am Michael and I wish you a good day as usual and as well for all.


Ron - I was going to let this all lie until the real situation became clarified later today as I am now about to take a message for all under a new thread to be seen in an hour or two from now I hope.  I hope you all or some of you understand being Admin is no fun when something shakes too lose to keep the body politic operating well.  We are so fortunate that we have so few incidents of this kind of behavior I feel grateful to the powers on high to help us keep it that way.  Michael has chosen to let you know more than I wanted to be seen until I knew the story better, but the Creator Son has now lanced the boil that I considered unhealthy to allow to stay there myself.  Thank you all for your time and patience in dealing with another disruption to the otherwise excellent diplomatic ways of dealing with each other here.  

Admin/Ron

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I appreciate your response Daniel.  Keep up the good work too as things tend to want to fall apart these past couple of weeks, but I am pretty sure things will be back to normal and we can dismiss these things that are presently out of case in point as transmitters find their way back to normal operation.  I also hear you are to take another message today of some importance and go at 'em and inform us please.  Thanks  - Ron

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Your message is affirming the new energy being placed around us to place us in a way we can move on after a terrible period of just stopping the appearance of the Magisterial Mission.

If you have been here long enough you know the details of what has happened especially from 2007 on up to the present time,  I would not have missed it for all the world living through that history as it taught us that spirit in operation is not always spirit in perfection due to material circumstances that halt progress.  I am glad for such a gransmission, Sue, and thank you for taking it on so we can read it.

Sue transmitted the following line:
"“I am Michael of Nebadon, I am Hortein, I have to go to attend to business, I leave you with Mother Spirit, Good day.”

Ron: Two questions:
When transmitting that line, can you spell for us phonetically that name called Hortein.  What does it sound like?  Like  Hor teen?  Horch In?  How did you hear it?

Second, what did you note when that name came across?  Did you ask yourself if you got that right? Or was it matter of fact and you wrote it down as is?  Have you a question about it yourself?  What did you think about a name we never heard sounded before?  Does it have a meaning to you?  If so, where did you assign it?  Like to hear your thoughts on this.

Ron




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Yes Brian, that is not a transmitter problem at all.  If you look at the context of the statement, I think I tell you that hearing clearly right now can be a problem due to some sort of transition going on in spirit that changes either the perceiption of the transmission meaning they are sending or they do not have all the circuitry operating fully to transmit to Urantia or to me.  I know I am not missing message information, but there are fades and bumps in the transmission that are starts and stops that are very unusual without noting that the reason is a technical reason but not spoken to by Michael for instance,

I do not know the reason for this temporary interruption that we hear sometimes,  I would ask you Daniel Alderfer if you sometimes find a fade going on that you clearly hear but slightly breaks the transmission momentarily.  I certainly cannot be the only one catching these anomalies really only in the past four days or so.  I am glad to listen to other transmitters if you can verify this or have something to say in this matter.

"This is RAYSON, Bryan_G:  You know me well enough I do not have to tell you much about myself or how honest we are when we transmit to each other for your graphics work.  Ron has discovered a patently difficult problek we have now and that is to maintain a transmission to Urantia, we must press through communications that are so overlain with Universal Censors, the message either fades or gets cut.  The Father has asked the Universal Censors and other Censors to watch communications to Urantia, for as Ron has also discovered, he had a temporary interference from the Master Spirit Ocilliaya and wondered why the transmission got cut?  It got cut because the Father is positive that Ron is so good he needs protection from people breaking into the circuit and planting false information,  That has never happened to Ron yet but he is also suspicious that someone is fooling around with the computer and it blinks and winks at him.  We assured this was his provider working on the server, but we are not so sure there was not an attempt to cut his communication off with Serara in particular who holds Lucifer as the worst thing to happen to creation ever.    In this we assure you Bryan_G you have no need to sanction Ron in any manner and you need to pay attention to your own needs t ohear well again as you flub what we say pretty wrong sometimes.  Ron can tell when anyone flubs as he is directly connected to the highestg probationary spirit in the universe to make sure he does not get hit by a rebel force still hidning in places we have not yet found, or by an accidental hit by a Censor who thinks he is some subhuman character joking unnecessarily with God the Father or perhaps Jesus Himself who holds Ron quite high. 

"In any case Bryan_G cool the rhetoric as you only fool yourself when you go off the deep end which is an advancing paranoia due to the lack of sufficient vitamin D and C as you stay indoors far too long for your own health.  I also recommend you become friends again with Ron as he holds you well and totally pertinent to the Magistgerial Mission and for me, Rayson.  I leave you to your wits for now.  Rayson.

MICHAEL OF NEBADON -
"Periodically there are outbursts from you Bryan that indicate you are almost heart sick over your own situation on that island once considered a Paradise.  Tobago is no longer useful on Urantia and it will fall under the waters as most Caribbean islands will in the next five years or less.  Do not mourn your losses if you can get off the islands and Ron still remembers there is a brand new computer waiting for you use in storage at Trinidad if you would but go over there and claim it.  It is a fine computer and is still bright and shiny and new and it needs redeemed before someone takes it for him or herself.  Ron will no longer claim it for you shortly as he needs it here in York and will ask the postmaster general down there to send it back to sender in York.  Meanwhile it is addressed to you in charity to your difficulties in getting equipment to that island.

"Finally we like your work but you have got to get out of there and to some spot that is safe for you to work on or in.  It is not our promise to you to take you by the hand and force you off that island for you will surely perish if you remain much longer.  We suspect you need health issues taken care of too as that place has nearly ruined your own sense of well being and it should be an experience you are willing to forget that drove you there in the first place.  Good and we leave it at that for now.

"With regard to Ron, he has had it as rough as you have yet he maintains good relations with all for the sake of the Mission to the United States and the rest of the world.  Cpme back and join it where ever you land.  Good day."

Ron - I have to decide how to work a lot of things Bryan+G.  I have no issue with you at all and tell you my transmitting is fine, but there are issues with space transmission lately I mentioned above for the edification of other transmitters in case they note some difficulties too.  I also say that these problems are likely most temporary and things will come back to the same high standards they always have been for years before this.  I wish you well.  Good day.
END

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Walt, your take out underlines above are slightly out of context.

March 15 - Serara intends to visit York and see the new offices/

March 10 is the discovery date to start office work and was not well stated in the transmission but that is what it is.

Forty eight hours from now I will sign the Proclamation Papers that lets the March dates given above proceed - says Michael. 

Walt, I do not hear clearly sometimes and I hope that is a passing situation because if I am not careful we lose the sense of the transmission briefly and then what ever they do to make it back up starts in the slightly wrong place and I just copy what is said and that cannot always be very well processed in my mind for meaning and I let it flow as heard.  I am positive these transmissions will get better and better once everything that needs to get into place is so placed.  Thanks for your clarification.

Ron

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Before you read the message below, I want to warn you that a great deal of new information is written below.  I caution you that the Trinity has made it clear to me that they are going to appear in the suit of Mantutia Melchizedek to guide me and a new office, a government office of the Magisterial Mission, that I will head in the material realm.

This may come something of a shock to you, but the Trinity with Michael and the Order of Melchizedek (Melchizedeks as an Order do the will of the Trinity), our personal Supervisor Mantutia Melchizedek, will guide me and the rest of you who work in the new Ministry of the Interior, a sub post to the Chief of the Magisterial Mission, Serara and Monjoronson jointly.

They say I will be appointed as the cabinet official who is the Minister of the Interior and my job and all those who work with me which includes Lemuel, Larry, and perhaps the ladies known as Wendy and a few others, will travel with me to meet government officials around the world.  You can read the details below, along with a lot of things I am being told on.

Here then is the transmission for your edification:

CARRY THE LIGHT
AN EXPOSITION BY MICHAEL OF NEBADON
JANUARY 14, 2018
YORK, PA 530PM LOCAL TIME
T/R RON BESSER


Let me explain something to all of you that Ron exudes perpetually.  He does not like being the limelight but he is a natural leader in spite of his mother being a recluse and his father running for political office all the time. His work is real and lasting but right now he feels like a seal without fish.  Did you ever hear of such a thing?  It means his natural relationships that he needs to live well are sealed off and he must play the sphinx today to avoide calamity in his own household and in the culture around him.   That is because so many people have no real regard for thought but for status and how they related to people who matter for work or for play as in sports.

Spirit loves calm waters and easy streets to negotiate life with for the future and for ascension.  Not all ascension careers are easy and Ron has made his so hard we wonder sometimes if he wants to ascend or direct a small space station on his own.  I doubt we could afford that for any ascender, but we made his ascension career a little easier by promising him to wait and be good and to lift the weight of a few tons on behalf of Urantia.  So be it, I said.

Now what has happened is that the Paradise Trinity is working to establish a kind of bank for Ron to work in to see to our funding and to our proscription to pay off the nation-state debts as those countries, including the United States, cannot afford to pay back that debt all at once but they might have to, and that is depending on how bad the crash is in a year or so.  But we are going to intervene and close the debt cycle once and for all,  even for the Americans who run everything for awhile and then disappear because their debt is astronomical and we will have them pay some of it back just to keep them busy.

We have the Trinity approving the cash flow already and we now see that Ron has been named by the Trinity to offer people sums of money in order to keep them out of bankruptcy in the city of York and other places.   In any case the deal is to move Ron to the front of the line to make sure people do not starve to death or die for lack of heat and so on.  The Trinity is sure he has the right stuff to do this, but he is not happy with people who cannot even figure out what day it is much less which day they got out of debt thanks to the help of the Magisterial Mission and its follow up Missions.

Let me speak to what I call the “follow-up missions.” 

These follow up missions are treble cleft songs to the base mission of fueling the world with righteousness again.  Ron says to me, please explain righteousness to me Michael as I am not entirely sure what righteousness is.  Well, simply put: justice is served.  Righteousness is Justice.

That said we will spread the word that debts are forgiven for signing on to cooperation with the Magisterial Mission.  Whole countries may do so and individuals may do so and that is so long they did not cause the problem in the first place.  Ron’s work among many other issues he has to take care of, is to visit people and nations and write a check before their eyes for what ails them and that is all I will say about them. 

Further more, and this is the Paradise Trinity speaking now:

The PARADISE TRINITY SPEAKS =

“I am Margul and insist on being quoted so the quote marks now appear.  We have decided Ron is the one individual on Urantia who could discharge these duties with flair and happiness to the people of the world.  Ron says now to me, ‘you mean you are going to personalize the debt riddance problem with a man of the realm who stands before my betters and pays them off?’

“”The answer is yes and yes and yes and let them swallow their pride when you arrive in a small boat called the Britannica which arrives at every airport with a Magisterial Mission Symbol on its tail rudder and speaks no language but English to the subjects who will learn to hear him speak it well and in a slight treble sound as that voice box is good but not deep.  He will be met at the airports to be greeted by foreign ministers and members of the State Department of the United States, as he is to be recognized as our Minister of the Interior, a special office to set him above other workers in the Missions themselves. 

“Ron enjoys hearing these things but he has no real idea just what it entails and we will have Mantutia give a binder called an SOP (Standard Operating Procedures), and then to study it for days if necessary as he will start life on in the Mission, first as Chief Counsel to the Urantia Book Foundation, and second as our Minister of the Interior which takes care of the revelatory issues on Urantia and sees to the debt riddance of nation states and people alike. 

“Further evidence indicates he has a special duty to find good relationships with all around the world to remember their hearts and souls to others who need their help too. 


“We close with the situation he faces at home now for your edification.  He laughs somewhat we honor him with so much but he can do it so well we have not other candidate, Be assured there is little left for all of you to imagine how all this gets done as Lemuel and Larry will be key players in the Minister of Interior’s Office.  That is likely the place we will use Wendy Winder and Nikki Bardon too, to serve as accountants and keepers of the flame of righteousness for Urantia, as we as the Trinity will operated from the Ministry of the Interior ourselves and Margul will have Mantutia deputized to resist Ron’s generosity.  This is Margul and good day to all for now.”



MICHAEL OF NEBADON -
“I have you know folks reminded me I was better off to make an appointment to see him if I wished to.  Thank you so much Ron.  We close with this offer to all of you who need to hear better when this thing hits the ground later this month.  We are tired of waiting too, and that is simply done on Ron with a small laugh of irony and we tell you this, this list is entirely too quiet for what is about to happen.  We watch to see the enthusiasm grow!”


That concludes what will be an ongoing transmission to update all of you on the pending Magisterial Mission maybe with a surprise or two thrown in not announced here,

END

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Speakers: Michael of Nebadon; Margul Trinity Teacher Son, Mantutia Melchizedek and by implication the Deity Absolute

Announcement: The Magisterial Mission Redoubt Restart
T/R Ron Besser
York, Pa at 02:30am  Local Time
January 14, 2018

We are announcing that the time for the Magisterial Mission is over and that the Magisterial Mission we originally proposed is to take place immediately.

This means the original plans for Serara, the Magisterial Son, are revised to include the human element as well as the original plans to use the Corporations that Ron built are included without changing anything at this point.

In about seventy-two hours from now the House that Jack built will be removed from Urantia and a new civilization put into its place.  This will reform nation state governments on Urantia and provide education for humans who are never sure what they are or who they are to trust anymore.

In doing this I am again reversing the entire order of what was proposed only a few short months ago and that is to provide no Phases but to provide one Magisterial Mission without going into different versions to provide backup for Paradise which has finally seen the light that all of you have been taken through the weeds of service and to have never had the satisfaction of service in spite of years of hanging on with faith and trials to your own selves.

I am rescinding, once more, the appearance of Jesus first and any announcement proposed with that individual in mind.  He is ready to serve as is Ron as are all of you and I am not asking for one iota of change until we hit something so hard we have to restock our choices as to how to proceed.  Now this:

I am asking Ron to find office space in the square of York and Mantutia will follow with money and choices he figures is best for Ron.  We want Ron to take the conference room used by the mayor and pay her to build one in her own administration building on South George Street.  You will all see that building in the future as the one building which was constructed to actually fit the architecture of York from the get go.

Finally, I am rescinding all work stations until we know precisely what we need and that affects all but Ron who is in York to piece together what we need to start this finally.  We are already so late that some of the better parcels of land we need to use as a headquarters have been sold on the open market and we dare not go further than to guess what acrage we need for the foreseeable future at this point.  Here is the Paradise Trinity to speak to this issue:


THE PARADISE TRINITY = MARGUL AS SPOKESMAN
MARGUL IS A TRINITY TEACHER SON AND SPEAKS AS THE TRINITY NEXT.
MARGUL -
“I am a Trinity Teacher Son who enjoys your representative Ron with gusto.  He is the one human who finds humor everywhere and makes us all laugh.  He as two terrible problems he tries to laugh about but finds it impossible to obtain any sense for those problems to happen at all.  This evening Ron went to lie on his bed for a few hours as the intensity of a headache and backache and arm and leg ache was overwhelming and he needed to take a load off his feet he says.  We surrounded him when he did this and tried to make sense for him that we were really there on a mission and we utterly failed to convince him anything important was happening.  Now though he is wide awake and the pains have remitted enough he listens well and what we tell him we now tell you:

“The Paradise Trinity is the boss of anything that happens in time space too.  It is infinite yet is able to deal with infinity as a secondary case and not let it get in the way.  Your hearts are totally misapplied in what has happened and I am here to set the record straight.  It is this:

“We are rescinding all plans for Jesus and for the Magisterial Mission as rearranged for the past year and one half.  We are now in the fifth epochal dispensation not and we are now in the sixth epochal dispensation now and for the far future.  Ron went to extraordinary work to figure out when all these dispensations happened as he considers them the foundation for what happens on Urantia schedule wise and for other reasons of state as, for example, how do we treat persons differently who fuse in different dispensations.  Ron, Lemuel, and Larry fused in the 5th epochal dispensation period.  Anyone who fuses now will have fused in the 6th epochal dispensation, 

“The Magisterial Mission is ready to go forth as originally proposed by Michael several years ago before we got all tied up in knots over Ron Besser serving in human form which has set a precedence, and how Larry and Lemuel managed to fuse under such difficult circumstances has also set two more precedents.  Now we find that Serara has laid the law down and shot the idea of Jesus first as ludicrous when the planet, as Ron said when asked about it, Jesus is never going to be appreciated for what he can do unless we have a real mess to clean up first.  We agree with this erudite human who finds friends everywhere but here on the list sometimes.

“In accordance with Trinity law, we asked the Father why not just revert the Magisterial Mission as it was presented to all of us in the spring of 2005 and 2006 when we suddenly had to change it because Paradise did not agree to let Ron serve on the Mission on Urantia as a human.  We then replanned it and made Ron go through morontial transition we had to redact, and that redaction caused severe pain all over his body because we had to flush out cells that grew well in him and revert him to normal human body cells.  In doing this we forgot about the mitochondria injected into his bones and he had severe swelling of the lymph glands and the circulatory system blanched lots of blood into his pelvis over and over.  He is one sick lad as a result of these misalignments and we are making amends by dispelling the early changes and reinstitution Ron back to the morontial cellular structure his mitochondria produces best at this point.

“We point out that the Magisterial Mission has been hounded by Paradise over Ron volunteering to work for the Magisterial Mission under any condition Serara and Michael insisted upon and he was surprised by the injection of mitochondria in October of 2010.  That failed and he was reinjected on October 5, 2011 and again on November 3, 2017 in order to keep his body from deteriorating to death.  Since then there has been nothing but pain and unwise remarks to the Trinity over what happened as he was not advised as to why all this was be redone again and the consequences are genuinely very painful for all to observe.  Now that we have gone over all of that let it be known that the Paradise Trinity prefers Ron to work on the morontial spheres of Mansion World four and five, but Michael says that would transfer Ron out of the Urantia Magisterial Mission to a quiet place he does not desire at all.  Now we have the crux of the matter and the Trinity took it upon themselves to see to it that Ron will have a place of quiet at home at 2709 Sunset Lane, and to let the chips fall there as they may fall.

“Further more, the Trinity has parted ways with Lemuel and Larry on two important points:

1) They are to remain as they are and to work from their respective homes until York is ready to start operations with Serara all over the world’

2) All shipments of currency and gold is not rescinded as Ron, Larry, and Lemuel will receive a salary starting the first of March this year.  They will be paid that salary directly into their bank accounts and none of you are to pay taxes on it until we figure out how to make you and York tax exempt.  Further more the trial to fix up 2709 Sunset Lane with offices and a meeting room is considered exempt under our decision not build anything right now and we will have Mantutia help decide what is to be done as fast as we can get this done with Ron at his home perhaps as early as the end of January 2018.

‘I am Margul and we will have more to say about all of this shortly and we will make much more available through Ron as he must be the one who decides how to operate with Mantutia, perhaps Wendy Winter Nikki Barton as accountants, before we bring anyone else to York as we must lay the foundation to work with and in for York and Ron at the same time.  Good day.”


MICHAEL OF NEBADON - CREATOR SON EXTRAORDINAIRE

“I am used to such high flying titles when I am writing but this time I make it clear and simple.  The trial for Ron has been so difficult and so suffocating we have never had a chance to thank him without him wincing from pain in sore feet and burning legs and feet without interruption for nearly two years now.   We are sure the eyesight problem is to be fixed shortly and that the burning soon enough and so on and that we are happy to see Ron wince at my characterization due to the length of time it takes him to get up in the morning until he finally falls in bed after midnight all the time.  He has friends galore but they say nothing and he assumes they are not intrested, but on a list you know not he has forty five people reading him with gaping mouths as they never heard any of this before and he singlehandedly brought another thirty-five or so into the Kingdom.  Jesus brought millions and Ron thinks Moses is swell too but would like to compete better than third place for now.  In any case all of you must realize that you have to change your stripes again and let me suggest it this way:

“Beginning the 10th of March, 2018, we will begin the brand new Magisterial Mission.  Phase I died on us several times this year already, and we must revise our expectations somewhat lower and start small in York with relatively small offices in center square of York and decide immediately to confiscate the conference and public meeting room of the mayor to consolidate out use of the building in its entirety.  We ourselves will build out the offices while spending time preparing the world to accept a divine mission they know nothing about.  I see Ron do this easily \and with aplomb but he is very nervous about all of it as he should be as the twig is weak he handles and he knows it.  In one case he supplied one with how to attune to the inner being and he now understands it exists because he has stirrings of it in his own Adjuster and is marveling at Ron’s ability to strike at the heart of a question before it gets self confused.  Many of you should follow the process Ron uses and then see if you can do the same on the Delphi Forms.

In any case, March 10th we start building (negotiating for) offices in York and on March 15, 2018, Serara will arrive to christen them and meet Ron.  He will ask Ron to bow as a knight of the Kingdom and swear the Oath of Fidelity before the public in ceremony as Ron suggested long ago to do.

“I conclude this announcement with the following statement:

“We narrowly missed giving Ron this ceremony several nights ago but he was in agony with feet swelling and bleeding internally in such a way he would not behave to hear us.  He now is better situated and he has already gone down on his kness to me, to Margul, and to Monjoronson and Serara, but Ron insists that the public have a tape to play when appropriate ro play over our own TV station.  Ron has asked for a genuine practice session so he can get his body to work right and bow without falling over as he does not because of weak leg muscles.  He will have practice with Mantutia who seeks his advice on who he really is sometimes as there is far too much precipitate in these Ron suggestions to say he is not reading the Deity Absolute since we are setting one precedence after another with Ron present in all of this.

“Finally, all of you must understand that this change means business.  We are sure this moves quickly now as Jesus is back in spirit on Edentia now and plans for another day when he can assume the mantle at the Urantia Book Foundation and work as its head disseminator and its head policy maker.  The Urantia Book Foundation is already set to run and we must abide with the law of Pennsylvania until we have a sure reading just how we may operated as a charity instead of a working Foundation for now.  Some of these corporations must have a status change and Ron will not be involved with that after we get our offices in York.  You will have the Urantia Book, the new one as promised probably as early as the end of January.  Good day."


MANTUTIA MELCHIZEDEK - CHIEF URANTIA BOOK SURGEON -

“We have one small announcement for all of you on this subject today.  The 3,135 page second Uranta Book is now published in one volume again after providing one small update on the Magisterial Mission plans for this year.  The new Urantia Book text will contain a modicum of Magisterial Mission changes we are announcing today in this narrative above and below.

“You also will be sent a new Urantia Book free of charge if you are on Ron’s list and that you must make sure you have reserved on by telling him you want one by email and do so now as I am counting them and we are down to 5,000 copies after I have figured in all that we will donate to science and religion and their institutions.

“Meanwhile, Ron will get a dedicated copy signed by Serara and Major Deucum Textum Mantutia Melchizedek and it will be unique among all Urantia Book for it will have columns of print instead of wide page print because Ron has to lean to read again and we need a good text for him to do so.


“I am Mantutia Melchizedek, and I assign my ward Ron Besser to bed now as it is well after 2am taking down this message. Michael wishes to close this.  Good day.”


“I am Michael and I state the following for all of us: the trial to get started has come down to just doing it, Ron reminds me of the men in WWI who did trench warfare and it finally came down to those men storming out of the trenches just toget some fresh air and that is what the Magisterial Mission will revise itself with now.  We welcome all with questions now. Good day!  Michael.”


THE DEITY ABSOLUTE SPEAKS -

“We on the Circle of Infinity are fascinated with time and its awful way of getting things done.  Yesterday Ron went in his small shop building looking for the flashlight.  Instead he found glass shattered on the floor.  We had to take half an hour out of spiritual examination of Ron for Ron to repair the broken pane of glass in a large windwo full of twenty panes of glass all little and all to thin for that window.  He fixed it by scotch taping four shopping plastic bags over the shattered remnants of the pane in the widnow.  He left looking at it as a terrible job but that it would keep the rain out that was coming shortly as an arctic front swept in once again over York.  The truth is it will stay that way until he can get a crafts man to cut the odd sized glass pane and Andy will be gone without seeing all okay again as Andy went into the shop earlier to place something in storage no longer useful in the house.  And never saw the broken pane and they both decided a large hawk hit the outside window and made off with some witless bird to feat on.  Ron also suggest the entire matter may be thermal, and in that he is right on.  I will tell you Ron that no hawk hit the pane but it got so cold inside the shop that warming up to 63 degrees that day the window expanded so swiftly it shattered.  Good for you Ron!  Always thinking!  As for the Magisterial Mission, I am a solid observer how a human like Ron will connect with York city proper and then explain to the Commissioners that they were under the gun for security and police help and other duties to keep order when the residents learn they have a divine Mission ensconced in the center of the square and holding public meetings regularly to explain their presence before TV cameras.  Ron you can handle this well and so can Mantutia, but Serara will be there with bells on to kick such a meeting off.  Now this:

“We conclude to state that nothing in all the world will shatter the tile that is Ron on the universe as he has taken it all for the best it needs to be for Urantia.  I wish you all a good day.  The Deity Absolute.”

END  

14

Motion & Remotion
Original Doc R (ABC Summaries)

“REMOTION” was an extraction from Doc R and as such was in a different context than what Kurt took from the Daynal web site. Beware of materials posted there as they are edited sometimes from the original and as such are not acknowledged as being edited by Rob Davis.

Definitions to help you through this revelation given below by Master Spirits One, Three, Four, and Five:

Remotion - Simply stated, God takes what the Supreme did in the time universes, and then reruns the solutions for actions in time and reimposes a new starting point in them and realizes a new outcome. The Ultimate can take the Lucifer Rebellion and do at least 70 quadrillion solutions where the Supreme had only 1,500 solutions as linear events. Remotion just refers to taking the motions of the Supreme and running them through a new computer for additional solutions.

Experiential Trinities - The Father has to integrate all that goes on in time and in space with the perfection of infinity. Now lets not get deeply into the definition infinity but realize it is without motion. It does not have to solve anything as it is already solved from all space and time experiences and more. The Father must coordinate everything that is NOT infinite with everything that IS infinite and the grand combination to do that is the Trinity. The Trinity has conquered time by having non-infinite Trinities press up all they learn to the infinite Trinity. God the Supreme has his Trinity with the Creator Sons and Ancients of Days and so on. God the Ultimate has his Trinity to send to Paradise too what he learns in the outer space levels. These two little Trinities are not infinite but are called sub-absolute and they are experiences sent up for infinite integration all that is. The Urantia Book calls the little Trinities with the big Trinity the Trinity of Trinities.



Supreme-Ultimate - This is the working combination of God the Supreme and God the Ultimate teaming up to produce the creation of the outer space levels for the first two layers. The Ultimate and the Supreme form this perfect union just as the Father-Son did and so on, to make sure there is no difference of opinion between two competing Deities and that they are fully aware of what the other will do to create new life in the first two outer space levels. The Supreme is in the first outer space level as a partner to God the Ultimate so He has a place to start remotioning the Supreme’s work.
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Here is the link to the original document NOT fully posted on the Daynal site.

Link PDF DOC R
https://app.box.com/s/q9ty0g2egr785rkh1dty





Master Spirit One, Voice of the Father:

I am Siraya; The Scribe has requested of me to explain just how the Paradise of Alpha becomes the Paradise of Omega through adjustments of Fifth Outer Space Level and Non-Space Extension. The answer is that space is a comprehensive leash on time, and as such the leash is removed after Outer Space Level Four. Then space becomes a convenience of extrapolation, moving what was once constrained into the objective reality of that which is no longer constrained. When I say “constrained by time,” I mean that which time has constrained already in the superuniverses, because the Supreme has conditioned all reality as it relates to the Four Outer Space Levels, and only after God the Ultimate shares these Supreme concepts and retools them into eventuated reality, does the space stream relinquish its control.



MOTION & REMOTION: SUPREMACY & ULTIMACY
Motion is the primary expression of God the Supreme. Remotion is the primary expression of God the Ultimate. The difference between them is critical to understand why the Supreme synthesizes the relationship between matter and spirit in order to control spirit and matter, and following on from the Supreme, why God the Ultimate may transcend the separation of spirit and matter without time motion (i.e. the need for sequence).


The Supreme-Ultimate fashions its reality by two additional elements besides time and space. These are, motion and remotion. Remotion is the act of taking back and reissuing conditions until they reach synchrony with what has been potentially and pre-eternally established by Paradise Deity. With the Ultimate working through the Deity Absolute that which is potential or before eternity is seized as the raw material of emerging values in subordinate life forms in the outer space levels and once matured, such Ultimate accomplishments are established on Paradise with the Trinity Absolute. (Ron’s note 01/12/18 - The other name for this Trinity is the Second Experiential Trinity)


God the Ultimate can do this while the Supreme can not. The Supreme’s motion is nearly always linear - a line or string of events that come to an end or start something new. God the Ultimate runs things differently. In Ultimacy, events are fashioned from pre-existing conditions from the Supreme, and then the Ultimate remotions them (or puts back into motion as a recombination of those circumstances that resulted in the value first being expressed by the Supreme) as an experiment to obtain results one way, and then run another way, until the results actually produce the perfect solution for that particular experiment. This process is one of remotion. Remotion results in an eventual solution devoid of further development. It is as though the Ultimate can wring out the cloth the Supreme had hung out to dry and find a wealth of new meaning to splash before the eyes of a growing universe.


Remotion is directed toward and vitalizes all absonite growth under the Ultimate. The Supreme has no choice but to enter into those motions already established by First Cause. Here is illustrated just why the absonite precedes the finite, for it is in the transcendental conditions in Havona that there is found the original motion that pre-wires the superuniverses with the neural network of finite preconditions that the Creator Sons must acknowledge when they prepare to establish their local universe domains. These Havona contributions are the pre-existing conditions in absonite transcendency that prepare the finite creations to explore the maximum expressions of the qualification of infinity. The Supreme in working through the materials of original motion to obtain time values cannot invent any motion other than what First Cause established as the initial surge of energy toward some finite objective. These neural controls (which are resulting from space limitations built into the absonite or transcendental over controls of space in the superuniverses) as limitations are built into the superuniverses in the present age of God the Supreme.


Remotion is possible where sequence has no meaning and is highly effective in obtaining results that exceed the limits of Supreme integration of time. The Supreme must always work from the beginning to end in a forward motion while the Ultimate through remotion may start anywhere in between and play it out in a numberless repetition until all values are realized and had been without spiritual highlight in the Supreme. Those who know mathematics know this to permutations, and the Ultimate is an expert at performing rapid calculations of any possibility to exhaust or predict outcomes essential for perfection in space. The Ultimate has the luxury of being able to restart all finite values from nearly an unlimited number of revisions. Remotion is inherent in Ultimacy as sequence is inherent in the Supreme.


We now are able to explain something about how the Supreme-Ultimate combination works with Paradise Deity. If we take the fact of Supremacy as a completed experiment, then we have in place those time experiments which have succeeded. Not only have we successful outcomes from the Supreme to replay as fuel for God the Ultimate to remotion and experiment with, the Supreme outcomes have benefited by their perfection through the Paradise Trinity to universalize them to every sector of time. God the Ultimate revitalizes the products of the perfected time experiments of the Supreme and re-experiences them by recombining the Supreme’s contribution with the Ultimate’s thought and exercise of transcendation. We may use a crude example of what this adds by saying it is something like adding more eyes to a sentient being to see the hidden structures of space itself. The Supreme sees the universe laterally; i.e., from left to right and up and down; the Ultimate sees the universe as a convex ball of structure in which he may change the structural matrix inside the ball to improve the life [durability] of the ball.


The results are space limited, but they are also space conditioned and therefore sub-Absolute. The values the Supreme finalized are the Ultimate’s starting points to produce totally new concepts subject to infinite integration toward God the Absolute’s (spaceless without losing space conditioning) realization. None of the Supreme experiments or the Ultimate’s remotions are possible without the interposition of the Paradise Trinity and the personal association with experiential Deity with the Paradise Deities themselves.


In Paper 10 Section 5 of the Urantia Book we learn that,


“The functions of the Paradise Trinity are not simply the sum of the Father’s apparent endowment of divinity plus those specialized attributes that are unique in the personal existence of the Son and the Spirit. The Trinityassociation of the three Paradise Deities results in the evolution, eventuation, and deitization of new meanings, values, powers, and capacities for universal revelation, action, and administration. Living associations, human families, social groups, or the Paradise Trinity are not augmented by mere arithmetical summation. The group potential is always far inexcess ofthe simple sum of the attributes of the component individuals.” Eventuation is the term also used to describe the absonite in your text and if the reader would also substitute the word “remotion” [for the word absonite realizing that absonite has one other attribute and that it is truly spaceless], in the quote above and as remotion is defined above, a more understandable definition of the process will emerge.



The Paradise Deities view the Ultimate as finished with all of these experiments but also accept that they must be experientialized during a Universe Age just as the Supreme was allowed a Universe Age to finish the time experiments to perfect time values and hand them over to the Ultimate one day. God the Ultimate with God the Supreme in ways not entirely understood even by the highest revelators are then personalized together as the Deity union of the Supreme-Ultimate within the Second Experiential Trinity formed around this monistic point of experiential power. It is upon this amazing feat of power materialization and spirit synthesis realized within the prerogatives of the First Person of Deity to make it so; that all the universes in the Master creation of space may reach the status of absolute conditioning.


END EXCERPT


January 12, 2018 - Mantutia Melchizedek wishes to add comments to the excerpt above and comments on my definitions at the top to help you through the weeds of high revelation presented by the excerpt here.


MANTUTIA MELCHIZEDEK - WRITER OF PAPERS 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 122, AND 112 - AND CHAIRMAN OF THE FIRST REVELATORY COMMITTEE THAT PRODUCED THE FIRST URANTIA BOOK.


COMMENTS:
“This is Mantutia Melchizedek. I am not happy with Ron’s definitions above but he has stubbed his toe on people like Rob Davis and Kurt who have no sense of the subject well enough for them to understand what they played with by not fully providing the paper that explains REMOTION.

“I for one dislike the idea of little Trinities but he is giving you a comparison between infinity and something a lot less like infinity in the word “little.” It works okay that way.

“Further there is no real definition for Infinity except as Ron provided it to you above. If you can remember what he said and how he said it you have a fair definition as we see it too. Otherwise you just add cracker crumbs to it by saying anything else.

“I detest the term Supreme-Ultimate since it seems to add nothing to what it tells you, Ron swiped at it to give you an insight into how it functions and that should be enough to easily what Siraya wrote to him in 2013, not 2011 or 2012 as Kurt thought it was written.

“Finally, this paper is useless for the next Urantia Book because we redo the entire idea of remotion which Ron really likes and I do not. Otherwise we are stuck with the term “ABSONITE,” which is a jaw breaker because it loses definition every time we go to use it. As Ron says, the ABSONITE is mostly REMOTION, but one has to remember that the ABSONITE is more than Remotion. The other Ron finds troubling is “EVENTUATION” as that was my addition to help break the word Absonite down but it fails to help much as it does not tell you what is being eventuated or how it does it. Remotion tells you how the Ultimate replays the Supreme solutions and adds them to the integration of reality on the infinite level.

That concludes my remarks today.”
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15
Overmind, to add to your post:  The boundaries of Nebadon are spiritual.  What is the space of Nebadon is defined by the presence of the Creative Spirit, Nebadonia.  Where her presence exists, that is Nebadon space.

Nebadonia speaks:  "I find this contention by Kurt to be ridiculous.  Political views we hold but political views have nothing to do with local universe boundaries.  Kurt has made a serious blunder now and he continues to insist on posting virulent mail to upset the members further by implying all is under the guise of misinformation being transmitted by Ron and Alderfer and a few others.  This must stop as Kurt is now banned and not just his account removed for a short period as Ron intended to do in the future.  We lost a good man and now we must suffer his anger and retribution over and over again as he goes out and lets people know how badly he has been treated here.  I suggest you all pray for the list to remain out of the reach of the Luciferian reaction to things when he did not get his way and Kurt certainly abides in the idea he deserves better treatment but he really blew it by posting a recast of the Remotion tract and people, do not believe Kurt or Davis as Ron has corectly pointed out that Davis changes the force of the lesson and never gave credit from which it came.  It is not my choice to have this go on while we are dickering with the Father on how to rid Nebadon of a force of angelic presences that get up Ron's nose when he transmits and he knows the difference. I close with this admonition:

"Kurt has made it difficult to be friendly to him again.  He knows the injustice of anger as he has it in his own family, but he makes the mistake to take it out on the discussion forum when things bulk from starting properly and that is not his to do anymore.  I saw Ron go into the admin section of this site and ban him for good and I suggest to Ron to let that ban stay in place until the cows come home as Kurt is no friend to Michael or the Creative Spirit or to many on our staff who must overcome human resistance to the ideals of the Magisterial Mission.  Kurt has seen to it there is no goodwill left with Ron or Me or Michael and more he has no idea he offended with promoting the Davis brand of capitalism when it comes to free will interchange between humans of good standing with God.  Be aware that few things will agree wit hKurt but we leave it alone now as Ron would like the Kurt thing to die a natural death and to get on with other difficulties we have to end sooner or later with these Missions to Urantia.  I wish you all a good day.  Mother Spirit."

JACK 0802AB B* 
"I see Ron seethe over Davis again and I see Davis working easily tonight to ban all thought that does not appear in the Urantia Book proper and that is his to do for a change.  You Ron must watch this all the time for awhile as they love to distract you into things you prefer to understand but you caught it again this evening where the words flowed out of sense and you need to watch that with everyone because of the distance between you and Michael and Mother Spirit these days.  For awhile we all were in York looking at the grave yards and seeing they are all old Dutch Reformed and Lutheran graves but you are aware that the area is full of the Pennsylvania Dutch and are amazed at their life spans as you check out the obits daily watching for friends to start to "go."  In any case we see the nervous Nellie's next to you and your head and that is a sign of influence in very difficult places to avoid at all costs now.  In any case we have two different solutions for all of you:

"One is to ban transmitting for now.  It may happen.  Two, is to let them run their course and correct where we can we have them rounded up and ready to ship out to the courts.  In the last two weeks Ron has been approached by seven daughers of the Infinite Spirit and allowed to make posts he considers outrageous but Ron won a certain favor and is now part of a list none of you know about that still may pay dividends we did not think possible.  I am Jack the former Midwayer on these lists and I seldom make comment on a transmitter like Ron because it gets silly after awhile, but he managed to find an old salt on another list who hated life and turned him to the light and that is extraordinary in that the list is made up of scientists and artists and not religionists and who would have though the man from Ipenima  (sp) had a heart big enough to take such an ugly lugger as Ron can be when approached by bears with fangs and claws to get rid of him.  I say all this because your transmitter here is the only person who goes out looking for uneducated game and finds plenty to run from.  This time he had a could welcome him and they wait until the emotional storm clears with what he has to say in their own terms.  Goodness gracious I did go on.  However I wore a mask and watched him through the lens of the universe and he hates poetry generally but one old fellow is a publish poet and writes Ron poetry in response and this time wrote back with poetry himself and surprised Michael with a prophesy to the old sea salt and it took him into tears and it now hangs on the room he works in to write.  In any case it would do you all good to go looking for what Ron does-  new fields to freshen the perspective that all things concern God including other lists besides this one. 

"I am Old Jack 0802AB B* and I wish you all a good day,  You too Ron."
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