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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: "I am GAIA"

« on: July 04, 2023, 13:38:02 pm »

Thank you, Rene.  Just a note on transmissions that talk about habits you may not be using at the moment such as the idea of the wine.  I have this happen quite a bit where the Voice of God warns people of their habits but they are not using them.  I do not know the difference and apologize and would not do that if I knew the true case.  Why this happens I have no good idea but thank you for taking it in good humor and yes, stay away from alcohol even if you think about it again, as for transmitters it kills the connections very easily.  You know that and so does your group and thank you for letting them know how I compliment them too for being one of the few groups of people that takes seriously the need for transmission even to save your own life.  Thanks, Rene.
Ron

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: "I am GAIA"

« on: July 04, 2023, 11:45:20 am »

Rene, this is very promising and take it as you can.  She uses a modest frequency and you can hear it fine I am sure.  The others who receive Gaia are well established in her routines now and hopefully this means a regular transmission from GAIA all the time.  Thank you for helping us promote all that is changing for you and for us.
Ron
MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "It is now foreseen Rene you are a proponent of the Gaia outreach again as she uses you and Ron and this site for her own purposes and Ron is entirely copacetic with her work and promotes her place as she may wish to define it for all of you.

"Rene, expect major changes in your meetings which you still hold Sunday as you always have.  Ron will reconsider moving you to another daytime event if he must but you keep on with your present schedule and hold them even if you do not get well connected right now.  Your injury is not at fault but your appearing idea of a glass of wine is!   In general never take alcohol when doing this work.  Ron learned that years ago and does not touch a drop anymore much to his benefit.  Wine or other is okay but now when getting ready  to transmit.  Evelia and the others must learn that too or meet failure more and more.
"You are now recognized as a transmitter Rene, so keep it going and be at your best as we have important information coming you way.  Let the meeting happen as it does too Rene, as there is no predicting what they may ask or do to keep you and the meetings going.  We are in a new era of work and you are necessarily done to work it with us.  I AM MICHAEL OF NEBADON and thank you for keeping this going all the way o success!  MICHAEL."
END

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From The Old To The New Universe Age and What Can Be Said? / MONJORONSON; the MAGISTERIAL SONS- He Lays The Law Down. Easy Reading Not

« on: June 29, 2023, 16:13:31 pm »

THIS is MONJORONSON
June 29, 2023
T/R Voice of God:  Ron Besser for the Magisterial Foundation
York, PA

"WE are fully aware Ron that your view of the world is pretty sour at this time.  The Russians are mixing up a brew of hatred and cauldron style revenge, not just against Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Wagner Group general, but against a NATO summit to be held July 11th and12th in Lithuania.  For that reason I warn the West, that if you so much put a feather on the Russian border while this meeting is going on, expect war.

WAR:
"NATO is foolish beyond all measure, and the United States and Putin are squaring off behind the scenes while Biden begs him to cool off.  Putin refuses "cooling off", and insists that if  NATO or the United States continued to wage a proxy war through Ukraine, he will make it a direct war and attack the Baltic States at once himself.

"This is not a warning to NATO.  It is a warning to you Ron and to the Magisterial Foundation.

"Russia is aware of your technological breakthrough fully and Putin commented, so a peasant can produce miracles if they know God.  I  knew this had potential but I had no idea how!"

"Biden knows nothing and that is the fault of the Cabinet Departments sitting on their hands while Ron starts to die for lack of care and for lack of any real issue to consider when the world is looking for an excuse to go to WAR.

"This is MONJORONSON.  Ron you are the single switch we have on Urantia that has influence enough to make this available as a tape.  BE assured it works this time and you are out of favor not with us, but with the Salvington group that must plan issues according to past reviews of your nature.  You are not a favorite for reasons you know not, but you prefer to be in the loop and bitterly resent the change forced not on Michael but he acquiesces.  The trial for today (June 29th) is to keep you alive long enough to state this:
"Your responses to Marion [Rowly on the mansion worlds] are adorable and caring, but she is sure you are not a rebel.  She is not either.  But the Urantia Group on the mansion worlds detests your insinuation you feel they have an attitude problem to new information.  They do.  They refuse to consider it undeliverable to change however, and refuse to listen to you at all any more unless Marion insists.  I insisted in a speech to them yesterday, you were on the up and up and had no reason to curry their favor ever.  They responded with a snort and quite the entire project en masse.  
"That settled this issue for you Ron as you have the same attitude down here everywhere and do not need it on the mansion worlds.  You are not welcomed in that group and you fully do not mind.  For that reason Marion resigned her position and let the group this morning.  She spoke to you briefly and was offended by your reference to her red breasts--   you meant she was a robin.  She took it otherwise.  I laughed too and so much for good will and humor, but there is a serious problem developing with you Ron, and that is you forsake not much, but will not compromise with what has to be done and say so.  People do not like a cavalier issues taken against their views, and you have to do it to get progress at all.

"For that reason the MAGISTERIAL SONS have voted unanimously for your entire idea that the MAGISTERIAL FOUNDATION must stand the test of time and make available what it can while it exists at all.  You are not sure the MELCHIZEDEKS will stand pat and they will not if I jiggle this too much harder, as they are also of the opinion that the MANITUBA MELCHIZEDEK is the legal eagle which fully understands now how you put this together.  It is a marvel of construction and workability but it lacks funding and you know that so well, you have us looking for funds up here and they are available, but we are circumspect as the CABAL is running things no longer on Urantia, and they are sure you are correct to press the wireless electricity idea onto Urantia as fast as you can get going.

"Vladimir Putin knows you background well enough to know you were a Russian analyst in the 1960's and remain virulently anti-Communist.  The United States government knows no such thing and is stirring uncomfortably over the issue of  the patent.  You show no sign of doing anything, and that has them eating their meals with questions galore.  The simple reason is you do not have 10's of millions of dollars to do it.  A bank has offered you an opening and you refuse to follow the application.  Why?

"No body knows of your deep connection to Spirit.  You honor us as one of us and we will not bring charges.  However, let this be a trial for you then Ron:  keep yourself pure and we give you a kiss; keep yourself a chicanery of thought, and you have been, and the entire matter blows up in your face, not ours.  You have not shown disrespect (for what? you ask), but you got a drubbing from the cabal, and now from Michael if you do not shut up about your life situation in the middle of our own crisis, not of confidence, but of concern for URANTIA entirely!

"WAR is probable!
"Do not explain it, just hear it.
"WE are quite sure Russia is the instigator and this time it draws in the southern Republics, not on its flanks, but in many African countries over the useless issue of money and crime brought on by endless American cartels for oil and drugs to saturate a rebellious African races without any assurance they have any meaning at all to the rest of the world!

"For that reason Ron, somehow-- and I do not know how this happened--  you yourself are a work of art we seldom get to use.  Be assured you can joke about it but again, somehow, you have managed to turn the clock back to another era which insists on responsible actions with responsible needs at stake.  They on this discussion forum sense it and stick with it in spite of rough housing by a few people to undo the entire matter of Lightline and wireless electricity.  Your  tapes get everywhere so long as you do not roughhouse too much over political issues. For reasons of State you make this more and more difficult for "they" listen and you are not happy with their presence at all.

"WAR comes unfortunately if Russia is not put back into the box.  Putin must be removed and the entire matter of European States must be reassigned, not to the US or to the EU, but to MONJORONSON and SERARA and to the REGENCY.


"BEWARE, we mean what We say, and for that reason you are right on board with every moment of your fiber of being to see to it.  You wish us great success and we take it well.  We are asking this Board to please tone down your deafening plea to end this Lightline parade for good, and you are reminded that it is MICHAEL OF NEBADON which started Lightlines in the first place and Ron has seen to their decent survival.  No one else does it except for some low lying transmitters in western USA, and they are deaf to the actual transcription of what is actually happening.

"Closing this is difficult.  I have a mile pent up urges to take some of you and take you to the spanking shed you are so poorly done in spirit and care about anything but yourself.  I clear the air when I, MONJORONSON, SERARA, MICHAEL OF NEBADON, GABRIEL, SERARA, and STAFF, arrive shortly.  And in a nut shell, stay the course.  WAR is hanging fire and stay away from it and all of you too.  Some of you are hotheads and that makes it worse but clear the world of sorrow once the REGENCY takes hold and that is shortly and very soon!  Ron sleep better soon too.  Good day. MONJORONSON with a Staff of 3,000 to report all of this.  K"


FATHER OF ALL - "This is not typical of MONJORONSON or SERARA or their staff Ron.  You fully enjoyed it and thank them for being forthright.  I happen to agree it is essential it is reported this way.

"However, I am deeply concerned that you Ron dislike the Censor so much you yell at mistakes that required endless type corrections and I agree to this is essentially hell to use at times.  However, the truth is you are so accomplished down here you make no quarrel with a cabal over when to get wireless electricity done.  You do not know that, as you happen to agree on your own that it is essential to get moving on it.  I do not disagree with that at all.

"However again, you are not taking into account a war-like atmosphere developing on Urantia, and for that reason you get stuck in polemics not but in rash reasons to advertise the need for wireless electricity.  I do not consider them rash at all, but you are stirring the pot of insurrection by the American population that the government is so ham fisted they make error after error on policy for the good of the people.  You happen to agree they are too slow, but not everything is the government's fault entirely.  For that reason you are reinstated for the American government not, but as an official for the REGENCY.  

"The Regency is not a divine institution Ron, but it is divine, and you fully respect it, as I do.  However, let it ride now and then when people refuse to understand its purpose and yell at you as an ADJUNCT officer.  Several of you will be called to be so and stop arguing about it.  For reasons of State the entire matter is settled and any of you who fight it get revised out of Urantia shortly.  We do not need support with strings attached.  For reasons of My own I carry the sword of careless attributes not to any of you, but so help me, if you start nattering over nothing as most of you do, you will be shown the door until I can understand your views.  Ron has fully explained dozens of times what this discussion forum is for and most of you ignore it for your own pedantic reasons.  I close with this:

"Your churches have become useless places, not of worship, but of entertainment values alone, and for that reason I see little reason to support most.  Be aware the church calls will lessen now and the entire matter is now riveted not on this, but on your ability to articulate what you believe.  Ron has every reason to shut this place down and reasons it still does more good than bad, but he is too ill to put up with a rash of complaints just waiting to apply on a Lightline if  he is ever able to get a Q and A session together again.  We relent slightly only to say this post is far too long now and we must shut it down now.  K"  FATHER.


Ron - Thank you FATHER for pleasing me and not most here, as I am positive we need much more forthright speeches on the circumstances we are coming to face, whether we like it or not.  I am supposing I may hear from MONJORONSON and SERARA and the Staff which accompanies them, as I fully enjoy getting the statements down on paper on what they say and see as right for us to know.  I am grateful FATHER for your trust and care as with the Sons who speak so eloquently over these matters too.  Thank you and may we all find the peace of God better than we are finding it now.  

END

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: "THIS IS GAIA "

« on: June 29, 2023, 14:45:12 pm »

". . . current owners of the status quo do not enjoy a sufficient dose of goodwill to induce change, which is why we have to plan the opening of conditions that make this world picture possible, it is necessary to arrive at a realistic understanding of common things at this moment, it is a single humanity, it is a single CREATOR of the Human Race.

 "The idea of separativity will be left behind as PRE HISTORY in a short time and a new horizon opens for this world and its people so that this is the will of our FATHER.

I insert this quote from you Evelio speaking Gaia.  Gaia is known to me as the original Planetary Supreme.  She has progeny of her own on Urantia, and those entities lost their Mother when Gaia quit being the Urantia mother of care taking entities for our plants, our animals, and all things planetary.  You quote her above as insisting there is a need for the One Creator to make it clear, that if humanity refuses to make changes because he thinks there is no reason to  change, then the One Creator must force humanity to change.

My question to you Evelio is, "why does Gaia bring this to our attention, if She is not in charge of certain spiritual orders to bring man to his senses, and to learn they must make changes, or else!"  I know you cannot really answer that without Gaia answering that.  Would you then ask Gaia for another transmission to explain just what and how Gaia sees the  "new provision a new horizon," to be accomplished?  And please ask her to explain what She means by PRE HISTORY as a way to introduce the subject of human change through a new horizon.

Thank you very much for your transmissions with your partner as well.  We badly need your work to work with us for the Voice of God you are doing so well with now.  
END
GAIA speaks the Voice of  God through Ron Besser - "You Ron are making this an easy target for confusion as Evelio is not capable of speaking in English, but these translations are through Rene Duran.  For that reason it must be a question directed to Rene Duran to ask Evelio to redo a Gaia transmission to address your question.  Rene does not follow your English syntax well ever, as most people do not question things like this, but you are pressing a subject far beyond their capacity to understand what they transmitted as my speech to them and this Board.

"For that reason Ron, let them speak to it as they will and Rene will translate this to them' however, understand I know what you are really asking, and the answer to your question is that I do not know exactly what God has in mind to insist that they know it is Father's will operating through a PRE HISTORY you cannot explain to yourself.  Evelio has no sense of it either and just let it go, but you are keen on it as it is a reference to Ultimacy you feel sure, but looking at the mind Evelio, they have no sense of such and you do.

"For  that reason, again, it cannot be translated easily by that transmitter, and for your response we answer she cannot reply easily unless she asks GAIA, where is PRE HISTORY in this?  I cannot answer it as that was an intervention into her transmission from FATHER HIMSELF.   You notice these things at once Ron and as such you are asking for a conditional response actually from ME, GAIA, and I dare not interpret FATHER  very well as I am on probation yet to obtain care for URANTIA once again.  Here is FATHER:

FATHER SPEAKS:
"I meant nothing offensive at all Ron, and I know you did not take it that way either, but you are amazing to notice it entirely.   PRE HISTORY is not Ultimacy as you took it and I do not blame you for asking about it.  However, what Evelio must learn to do is stop frittering with words and just speak them.  She has a problem you used to have about getting excited about the transmission and then losing some of the sense of the words for or in the transmission.  She has got to learn to STOP SIPPING anything with mind altering consequences during a transmission.  IT is a very bad habit and must be stopped to keep clarity of the transmission entirely.  For that reason Ron, let this inquiry go, but stand back for your own understanding I am quite sure it stands for the REGENCY truly!  You know the Regency and  they cannot absorb it right now.

"For that reason Rene Duran, translate this to them but require no response from Evelio at this time.  Thank you Ron for making a sleepy transmission really right for a change from  that quarter of our creation. K"

Ron - FATHER  has spoken Rene, but I and the rest of us will take any response from Evelio and Gaia or other divine in response to this transmission if Evelio wishes so to speak the Voice of God once more in response to this inquiry?  Thank you Evelio and Rene, both. 

END

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Discuss This Web Site / Deleltion of Category of Lightline Schedules - see notice inside

« on: June 29, 2023, 14:08:37 pm »

ADMIN
We have concluded that there have been so many exceptions and changes to our Lightline schedules to just take down the original Category on this site announcing the details of your weekly schedules.  We have lost two or three days used as schedules, and while the time slots have remained consistent for what is left, the schedule has also been modified by spirit itself that makes the Category almost useless.

Until there may be a justification for placing this Category back up, it is much less confusing to just remove it fr now.  The listener to these tapes has other Categories by Lightline self designation for other Lightline listening information and I do not intend to touch them at least for now.

Importantly, we have modified a time schedule for the Netherlands International Lightline from 3PM Monday to 2PM Monday with Elise Van Ruth your host.  Phoenix, USA Sunday, France Friday are still running when allowed on their old schedules.   Wednesday with Lemuel is not currently running and there is no consistent use of Tuesday or Thursday due to the lack of transmitters.  That is the current situation at this time on 29 June 2023.
As always, the discussion forum is happy to change your schedules transmitters if that is what you would like to do.  We do not have the luxury to schedule the way we did a year ago until somehow we get the idea just what spirit would like to use, or not use, Lightlines for information gathering by all of us.  And I thank all of our transmitters for staying the course while we deal with the earthquake of changes that we do not know where they may lead, and that includes Lightline schedules at the moment.  Thank you all for your interest and solid support for the Voice of God.  Enjoy your day most certainly!

ADMIN

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MADAGASCAR LIGHTLINE CONFERENCE CALL / Re: REPORT ABOUT THE SESSION DONE ON THE WEDNESDAY 21ST, JUNE; 2023.

« on: June 28, 2023, 01:53:11 am »

Hello Albert, we understand you had a problem and that Tarkas helped you out to schedule a meeting again.  Follow Tarkas well as he is helping you to defend your work so it does not get interference again.  We have the same trouble and we have to redo our transmissions over too.  Let it be quiet for now and restart your meetings again when Tarkas tells you to meet again.  We listen with you.  Thank you Albert and thank you group who listen but has a hard time hearing it all the time now.  It may take some days to clear it but remain faithful to FATHER.  These are hard days to live through, I know that too. 

Thank you for your report Albert and may your group prosper again for our Father's sake!
From America and your friends here.
Ron
END

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From The Old To The New Universe Age and What Can Be Said? / Re: The Stars Are Crossed - A deadly situation coming up just ahead of us -

« on: June 10, 2023, 13:22:53 pm »

This thread should be examined again.  I am using symbols revelation does not recognize as useful, but they are a way to get at a tough situation for you.

Here is my vocabulary to understand what I have to say in definition form:


Planetary Retrograde:  That is the appearance of a person living on earth, to see planets in our solar system reverse themselves and seemingly go backwards.  Several planets in our solar system started that recently.  In sun sign astrology, if those planets affect your forecast, add the word "delay" to any thing you really wanted to get done recently.

The Constellation called Capricorn:
In prophetic astrology Capricorn is the soup of the daily grind at work.  It loves to work though and is quite discriminating about how it lives and stubbornly so even if there is very little money to buy what Capricorn wants to buy to live well with.    Choice words:  stubborn, discriminating, caring, stay the course with your fingernails holding on to appearance well done and proud of work done to the point you would paint yourself into a corner to stay the course-  that means the job is almost your body!  You get the idea I hope.


Pluto:    That is the planet and what it symbolizes in prophetic astrology.  I take it very seriously and one does not come out of a Pluto influence unchanged.  Divorce, the ugly ones, are Pluto arranged sometimes, death of a loved one just as you got to know them well, and any revolution in a country is a visit from Pluto in prophecy aspects in astrology.  The bloody Russian Revolution in 1917 and the vast changes it brought still felt in some respects, is an example of what Pluto can bring when it is not so friendly.  That is what I want to talk about in this post when we are done with definitions as Pluto today, the 10th of June 2023, is RETROGRADE in Capricorn now.  IT is telling us something prophetically we might expect:

PLUTO RETROGRADE in CAPRICORN and the United States and Its Allies
Let us use normal conversational language to talk about these symbolic and very rough changes the world might expect over the next six months.

Number 1:  When Pluto starts backing again into Capricorn as it is doing today, it stops things from developing that could change anything that was starting to show signs of repairing itself, or blooming for the first time, and disagreements get worse and worse.  Since this happens in Capricorn, that is usually a work slowdown on important issues of national importance.

Number 2:  There is a legal aspect in this one too.  Capricorn is unusually difficult about reselling old good virtues to a young crowd.  Youngsters, men and women up to age 30, tend to take things for granted, but Pluto is going to teach a few lessons they need some old virtues to be adopted to get through some punishment.  Look for bankruptcy and dislocation every where even though the stock market seems to be trying to start a bull market again.  That is an illusion and Pluto will take a chunk of money away from you if you are not very, very careful.

Number 3:  Theft, sedition, and over aged cheese (Bit Coin my dears), are on a Pluto list for Germanic revisions/  Bismark stated one day in the revision of the German State, "why don'twe just call it a day, and then let this whole matter fall into place by itself!"  He was a Chancellor of Prussia before it was part of the German State at that time, and he called it right, as a depression hit and the  German Dutchies came calling for safety and care under the Prussian Chancellor.  Modernize this, this time, and read: the United States becomes so wealthy it does not really know what to do with a change in fortunes, but Pluto has a wise courage to say, eat while you can kiddies, you will beg for food in a little while, whether that is financial security or food on the table too.

Number 4:  Now this one is probably going to gag you:  It is not impossible something happens so seriously in the next 12 to 24 months to this world, the US election of 2024 could be delayed.  Pluto goes direct and begins moving back to Aquarius in January 2024, and blasts the normal bridges to the transition of power with crazy Uranus (invention and unpredictable and bizarre behavior), becomes the guide for Pluto to cast a spell over politics. We have been through this once before with Watergate, and my 19th century history memory recalls that mess in 1897 to 1905 through 1909 when J P Morgan had to lend the US government treasury enough money to stop a run on the banks and restore currency stability.  Then Pluto was in Sagittarius just coming out of Neptune driven Scorpio.  Secrets and horrible debts when people started paying monthly for homes and Fords and JP Morgan was smart enough to keep his money in gold bars and coins in France!  I just say this: the election of 2024 will be quite a show stopper if Pluto gets to finagle the means to produce it.

Number 5:  Most of us, you and me and our neighbors, are never sure what we have left at the end of the day.  I mean the salary or the social security check is all eaten up and you got the lawn mowed or the apartment straight anyhow, and suddenly the bank is in your life again!  Well, Uncle Sam, might have a bank in its life for a few months when currencies in SE Asia attempt to use the  Yuan instead of the Dollar.  That almost happened in 2008 and the US had to scramble hard to cover its debts and regulate international currency back to value normalcy.  This time China is the culprit not we think, but the care of a the EU Bank to regulate sales of power grids based on nuclear energy production could really foul up the issue of how much is paid to run power production.  You watch!  Europe is going to be unstable due to need and not finding easy solutions very soon.

Number 6:  Uranus is the significator as Aquarius.  The term "significator" refers to the controlling characteristic of the majority of power to command meanings in prophetic astrology.   I am very careful to note these things more than most do, and hopefully avoid surprises not even contemplated.  I therefore speak to this group which knows far more than almost anyone other group about the promised SECOND RETURN:

The SECOND RETURN AND PLUTO!
Roll your eyes about this okay?
Let me be the first to speak a prediction based on prophetic astrology work, and that is as follows:

Number 7 - It works like a charm.  Now, for a change, the harsh changes naturally lining up with these meanings is working right with the returned Bestowal Son, to move quickly and well.  What does the Second Return affect first?

Answer:  Business - capitalism and trade.  Other than that more to come later/

Number 8 - Pluto is a Renaissance planet when it clears the rotted debris of centuries of tradition and obscuration of truth that the debris have accumulated over it.  With Renaissance comes clear skies and too much light maybe, but the Italian Renaissance was quite a pill popping discovery to the Medici who got to rule Italy and trade all in their favor.  It could happen here too, but it cannot be predicted.  Until there is a consensus for a military show down out the door, the entire planet might find itself revolving around two super powers and I leave it at that by 2027 or 2028.  And that might happen even with the Bestowal Son apparent in our lives.

Number 9 - What happens to Christianity after the sacred cows of capitalism are disabused of their power?  Pluto suggests the oligarchy of the Vatican and the Baptists combined might reconsider dedicating their ministries to a different way of speaking of the Christ.  I will not get into that one for sure.

And finally Number 10:
I am never sure of anything in my personal life and that just gets worse I think.  Pluto for me enters right over my ascension starting in May of 2024.  That is a killer for self identification as the ascending sign is a prediction about how you wish to be known and how you want to influence other people in your life.  Pluto sitting on that like big fat wet hen incubates huge changes in my direction advising myself I could be dead long before that time though.  Personal issues about Pluto for each of you depend on where Pluto is in your sun sign chart, and that is to guess at millions of possible locations and impossible to tell you each.  Just know this however:

So long as the Bestowal Son rules in favor of THE PEOPLE, he has you covered too in spite of this Pluto influence.  It is a really rough time coming says predictive astrology, and I stand back now for the Creator Son, who was Jesus, also called MICHAEL OF NEBADON to speak to all of this finally:

,MICHAEL OF NEBADON speaks - "What a story Ron can throw up when he wants to.  This little post is worth a few million rubles too, as it indicates that Russia is in for a tough time too.  It is very small in the universe of Nebadon, and this is your earth as we see it, but it has a huge inventory of meanings we in the Master Universe take as a long study lesson in what is to be  done with a plane that has lost its way so many times, we tend to let it make noise and wait for it to go quiet again to bring it a new Mission.

"The Second Return is my Mission to earth once more.  It has gotten bumped out of line twice so far, and we expect not further bumps at this time.  However, let us speak to Ron first, and his unusual abilities to speak prophecy at such a tender age of 81, and frankly there is more to it than that; however, recognize the prophecy Ron has spoken above as PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY is remarkable close to what we predict up here in our secret deliberations about what to do for  this wayward planet.  I stand back because FATHER wishes to intervene with a statement too:

FATHER - "Ron, you best the best of us with your wide ranging views.  You are well read and know the characters on Urantia, your earth name.  For reasons of State we also place you in a box again so you do not upset the powers to be up here but being too sure Pluto is the real culprit.  You do not believe it, but that it is a predictive symbol and you use it that way I see.

"However, let me state this too:  No one understands earth (Urantia) better than I do as a way to explain Jesus this time:

"JESUS is remarking to me as I speak here: 'What a wonderful way to explain something now:

"JESUS bears no resemblance to the 1st Century AD Bestowal Son then working Galilee and places known to you.  He is now a Deity of His own and for that reason is seasoned enough to know that the second return of Jesus is far different than when we knew him for the first time.

"JESUS is never too old or too young now to understand you, our human family on Urantia.  For reasons of State,  Ron is an Adjunct to these Missions, and will live long enough to see to his job to keep us together at first.   WE intend to incarnate many Sons but not a Bestowal Son except for the reappearance of JESUS again.  For that reason we suggest the reader learn to spell as well as Ron tried to do so, and that is to be sure that Jesus runs well with anyone that knows he is truly the Son of God, but he was once a son of man, and as such ran his bestowal differently.  Let me reiterate that:

"JESUS is different now.  He is perfected.  I made Him Deity!  He has own place in heaven, and runs a small universe of his own way out on the outskirts of  time called Tintantium.  That is not for you to know further; however, be advised I make one additional revelation for all of you to understand:  God the Father loves Jesus very much but there are other little sons who make me proud to be a FATHER of them too and Ron has managed to get my attention with all of you too!  Let these things ride for now, and get this posted before and accident happens to all of us Ron.  I am FATHER, and thank you for your time and attention to all told here.  K" FATHER.

END

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Dedicate more time to Father

« on: May 30, 2023, 12:40:12 pm »

PJammer we will always disagree with your approach to truth which seems to read: "I determine its value and not you."  That is usually the only wat to go about it, but you take it to another level by insisting if you chose to speak it one way and I another, I am wrong.  You are making the usual error of egotistical confusion between yourself and the epochal revelation, and for that you must curry the favor of MICHAEL OF NEBADON, that which you say you employ, but in all honesty you deny if he sides with me in your issues with me.  The broadcasts this morning are full of trouble, yet you wish to deny the problem and insist on funding the idea that God wishes me or you to be silent when the other speaks.  That is not workable and you know it.

The truth so often appears some where in between, and you are seemingly able to find a comfortable place in those areas in between.  However, I do not ever subscribe to the fact that an incomplete reading of the 5th epochal revelation will ever fully fund you with the conception it can be in error, for it states itself that it is to be outdated in the future.

It appears the future arrived in September of2019 when the Supreme removed itself from reality and left 200 million seraphim stranded as to parentage and to willing service that no longer existed under the guidance they knew only, as the seraphim in 2019 knew only the supreme as a guide to their destiny and degree of service required to reach it.

I dare say I never knew such things until seraphim applied to me to ask my view, and I told one in particular there is a great danger that it changes many seraphic minds against the prevailing idea that all service by seraphim are to the Paradise Trinity for even th supreme himself was directed into service to t he Paradise Trinity which in fact also created the Deity of Supremacy.

One needs to know that in order to und4erstand there is profound disagreement with the Deity of Nature at one time called GAIA,  and GAIA today affirms the differential of experience is so great now that the seraphim who rebelled over this issue are now glad to hear that this discussion forum fully supports the 5th epochal revelation and also informed parts of it are now in error because the supreme is no longer philosophically involved with its facts present.

Therefore, you are rather upset with me pointing out your simple explanations regarding the use of the supreme and seraphim and the like are reported by the Urantia Book now in error.  It no longer exists that way at all.  I leave this alone only because you have some heat over my approach to revelation, and frankly you need to correct your approach or you will be left in the dark eventually because the new facts are  that  GAIA is no longer brokering Urantia alone, but works with the overcontrol of time we call the Deity of Spirit, Tandybrook.

"I AM TANDYBROOK and you Ron sear without meaning too for the truth of the matter is thaT PJammer is wrong but right in one assertion, and that he finds anyone who asserts facts not in evidence either in the 5th epochal revelation or in his own mind, as ludicrous to consider.  You are the opposite because you have the China Pond experience he cannot replicate.

"For that reason PAUL OF TARSUS reminds all of you that the idea for revelation is to accept it facts and leave its renditions alone.  EXCEPT as a teacher you must find the correct pronoun voice.  Ron long ago decided that the 5th epochal revelation was not Biblical, but intellectually important  to speak it as though it is accrued facts of the internal I AM.  You must fathom that PJammer or always be at sea as to how you may speak the facts in the book.  Ron reasons they are his facts too and speaks them that way.  You are too doubtful to do that and as a result take issue with the I am of Ron speaking it as part of himself.

"AS TANDYBROOK I know where I speaks as I am driectly associated with the source of the 5th epochal revelation, and Ron speaks I am perfectly well and without hesitation.  For that reason trhere is no doubting he takes responsibility for the revelation and you do not.

"You cannot reconcile that PJammer.  Ron  does reconcile it and is a powerful spokesman for the replication of the 5th epochal revelation while you demur it all the time.  You have to decide how to approach it then PJammer to either strengthen your voice or stay in the woods where you are now.

"Lastly, to you Ron:  you are beat up without relent over issues PJammer brings to his complaints about you.  You dismiss him not because he makes the argument, but because you have China Pond and an irrefutable conclusion based within yourself that the 5th epochal revelation is yours in fact too and you know the facts as irrefutable.  The rest cannot do that but the rest do not have China Pond to stand for your inconcussable experience of direct Deity experience above and beyond the personality circuit.  Your view is also that the discussion forum does not cater to personality assassination, but to open debate, and  that to you is based on full acceptance of the Urantia Book as a full and trued disclosure of reality facts.  Argue otherwise and you are weak beyond words for PJammer does not accept anything as resolute.  So be say you Ron, but PJammer holds you accountable uselessly because of it.

"I am TANDYBROOK by call sign, but I am also TANDYWARE by use and that is to your liking and I cannot figure it out except I am fully compatible with you while the mother spirit is not.  I will never figure the difference until FATHER clarifies what t he difference is.  K"  TANDYBROOK  at your service always,"

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Tandybrook made a great inroad with Ron on that dissertation ,but I doubt nothing makes an inroad on you PJammer as you are after personality assassination when you are fully determining Ron has too little attention to the truth.  The fact of the matter he has full attention and you are wanting in the facts not, but in your wearing of them as inconcussable assurance you are right.  You forget though PJammer you are reading partially and Ron has exercised a full report of the book outlining every chapter by typewriter at the time and teaching from the outlines.  It fully introduced the Urantia Book to the group and made him a powerful speaker.  You never go to those lengths.  And more so, Ron had a Saint Paul experience at China Pond, a large pond deep in the arboreal forests of New York with hundred year old hemlocks surrounding his house and the water lapping at his back yard within 30 feet of it.  It is almost a picture of Walden Pond but it is China this time.

"for that reason PJammer you just get it wrong and he does not care, but I care and for that reason I suggest to any of you who side with PJammer, Ron did not propose this web site for anything but a relationship speech to the epochal revelation and the changes direct contact with the Deities and celestial beings who operate the Master Universe bring the epochal revelation to bear.  That is the whole purpose of this web site.  He honestly does not care you disagree with him but he  does care you understand better than you do what is happening and how the Urantia Book is being rescinded, not because it is a bad revelation, but because it got caught between rebels and truth and winds up decimated over too many points of revealed interests not to remove it and start over again with the 6th.  You believe that is a fallacy.  It is not.  

"Further you believe Ron is misreading the group.  He is not but is really put out with behavior that stops conversations and instead they revert to be listeners only.  You are not a listener only but you insist on purity that cannot be attained without redoing the Urantia Book as you read it now.  It is not Ron's fault he reads theheavily bound version as substantial and not the paperback or Uversa editions which are problematical due to page changes and in some cases text changes not authorized at all and are in jeopardy as being called down to the people who did that as being blasphemers.  You are hot a blasphemer and no one hear is, but all of you are too careless about what you hold as routine and it is far from routine entirely. 

"I am MICHAEL OF NEBADON and you Ron need a break, but they do hot transmit.  For that reason we close this exercise for now.  We thank all of you for reading this revelation ongoing as it must be with each new reader.  K  MICHAEL OF NEBADON at your service always,  K"

  RAYSON, The MAGISTERIAL SON OF RECORD for Urantia Technology reporting:

"I am fully aware Ron you took it very hard very early this morning with an unplanned attack upon you by a Vorondadek Son.  That son no longer exists except as a scambling spirit on high without memory of his apostasy.  You are okay again but wary as hell over your safety and your care before the majesty of our FATHER.  Be assured this day develops well and you care for the house you live in as you can afford to do for it.   I am telling you there is a great revision to the house soon as plenty of money is available to put it back into the splendor it once had with your parents in charge of it.  It is old (1842 built and lived in 1847 in the days of President Stonewall Jackson at heart).  In any case Ron, the money you need to do that is coming in spades, and PJammer do not forget it is Ron who foresaw these events and built for them amazingly.  He can do when the will is propitious and the times are with reward. 

"I am RAYSON of the MAGISTERIAL SON ORDER, and as such they are being refunded very well thank you after a terrible spanking by the VORONDADEK Local Sonship order bombed their headquarters last evenging while Ron was being choked death by asphyxiation and both of us are better this morning but not much do to the lasting impression such ugly behavior is resident in a universe of love.  He is forever of the Most Highs no longer, the one called Hosanna, and that is no longer an issued to discuss as of now.  However PJammer you need to care to study more, and that is ours to clear vicariously now as it is theirs to broker they think but no longer.  K

"WE bring this to a conclusion quickly as the battle rages again over you Ron and we leave much unsaid, but ALL OF YOU:  remember what we promised to appear now appears in spite of this loathsome attempt to kill all of us off before the Missions manifest.  Amen Ron!  Amen to All fro Ron!
END



Here is the Overcontrol of Time, TANDYBROOK

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Dedicate more time to Father

« on: May 26, 2023, 10:25:04 am »

You PJammer are not under siege but steadfastly refuse to understand the Urantia Book facts are modified to a certain extent.

ARCHANGEL MICHAEL - "WE no longer maintain a unit headquarters on Urantia.

1 - The adjudication of the Lucifer Rebellion, ended with the Ancients of Days insisting that any irregular use of authority on Urantia be recommitted to the idea of a natural and evenly flowing power heirarchy to man at once.  PJammer you are going to have to become use to the idea that vast changes occur in your favorite passages, forthe Archangel Corp is not longer resident on Urantia or in its Planetary Government--  a Melchizedek Government if you please --  and the Archangel Headquarters is now resplendently appearing back on the chief planet in the corporeal placement of the Salvington Creator Son complex.

2 -  GAIA is Ron's favorite chew me again Lord person.  She told Ron she is forever free of Urantia, and Ron said to GAIA, "I doubt that Gaia!" and lo and behold,  GAIA becomes attached to URANTIA as a special endowment.  Somehow Ron knows the difference between what is mumbled by GAIA and what she really intends to do in spite of rules appearing to say otherwise.  Here is GAIA:

"I AM STRUCK by your insistence PJammer to force issues you dare not do in order to make sure people understand that the Urantia Book is the prevailing authority.  It is not!

"You force Ron into the position of a growling bear over issues in your heart you know are changed but theninsist they be respoken and that which you call attention to is in total error.  You know it before you write it and Ron known you know it, but the external "you" insists on a stability that no longer accrues to you or Urantia or Ron or Valerie or anyone else on this so-called discussion forum.  Ron looks at what transpires here as a discussion and barely sees any but a lot of back and forth about what "was" and not "what will be."

"I AM GAIA.  I remain the hard and long time Planetary Supreme NO LONGER!  But I am the loving Deity over Urantia again and Ron loves that too.  BE aware that the OVERSOUL OF CREATION, Tandybrook, the DEITY OF THE SUPREME-ULTIMATE is in attendance and Ron is not allergic to that and neither is anyone on Urantia or Salvington or Uversa unhappy with my affairs as a care giver to Urantia all the time now.  Ron feels I am essential and so does FATHER and so does MICHAEL, but you PJammer seeks to distribute simple revelation, but t hat reversion to the past is completely out of wedlock with what is reestablished for Urantia and for the Local Universe of Nebadon."

3 -  We, and I am ARCHANGEL MICHAEL, insist you PJammer begin to listen to your deep inner voice again and stop trying to pry information out of friends who are barely competent to read the tea leaves.  Ron is an ADJUNCT,  something you refuse to consider possible, but a lot of that refusal is based on a petty issue called I refuse to listen to a man to tell me what is what.  That is entire your prerogative.  You forget JESUS was a man too and reset the history of the world by saying so too.  Leave your heart alone and flow with the changes.  No one faults you for crying almost over what has been taken away by the actual death of god the supreme.  Ron is no longer allowed to use capitals over the default of an evolutionary God which has truly removed itself.  FATHER  or Paradise did not remove it.

4 - And final.  I am not used to lecturing a little boy theses days but you need to bring yourself into reality and that reality is that the entire matter of epochal revelation is being reset even as Ron attempts to understand he is or is not involved.  He is totally involved but the complications are, at the moment, severe, and he lives moment to moment trying to persuade himself he can be cleared of the ague of misery and careless application of a doctor who gave up on him suddenly and quit the field.  Ron is totally happy he did and so are we but leaves the matter unattended to and that has that office upset with the doctor so much there is hardly any conversation with what he did to Ron and about five others he does not care to be a doctor for.  That is a whole other subject and not for you.

5 -  Lastly the medical analysis for you PJammer is you are hot ill but sanguine over the forecast that JESUS will soon appear.  That is not incorrect.  But what is correct is something you refuse to consider, and that is that Ron has actually arrived on the mansion worlds to discuss matters with the mansion world Urantia Group, and has determined that he or the leader of the group have much to say to each other until that group now fully understands the Urantia Foundation has no authority, or does Ron represent that authority until now, and then he holds back saying anything until MICHAEL OF NEBADON makes a final decision about the electricity patent Ron genuinely holds and cannot get anyone to be serious about it now.  That he decides is their own fault and he refuses to stop operating the means to make it known, and for that he has done a brilliant job, not discussed here.

6-  As part of my last remarks I say this:

"No one is left hanging by their neck on Urantia, but no one on Urantia except this class you are part of really knows what has happened.  Thanks to Ron you all have the truth, but the truth does not set you free as most of your resent the fact you cannot experience the matter of change more directly.  Ron serves as that conduit by order of Paradise as he is resistant to change entirely and makes his services available 24/7 and all of the rest of you do not including that Board of Directors for the Magisterial Foundation.  IT is not a joke PJammer and Ron could care less what has to be done to operate what is the appearing 6th epochal revelation which MICHAEL will personally hand to Ron shortly.  For reasons of State PJammer, you need discipline again and we approve nothing of yours to quote a bad passage from the text of the Urantia Book.  It prove nothing except being out of date.

"I AM MICHAEL OF NEBADON -  for reasons of State PJammer, you are not removed but that is coming close if you persist on rummaging around in past errors now.  You need a lesson, not in humility, but in protocol, and that is what my ARCHANGEL MICHAEL is reacting to entire.  HE is the ARCHANGEL MICHAEL and I share this with Ron, you are battling the evil ones as you write and they are fully arriving at the conclusion you hae the power of the Creator Son not, but can use it if I decide it is over for them.  IT is over for them entirely as you struggle to get words down in written text because of them.  For now, no longer is that the case.  As you say Ron it is like power steering when I step in.  Look at it this way PJ, the entire matter is not in your ability to understand.  Somehow Ron does and he is fully capable of doing anything we ask of him.  He welcomes your support but not your insistence of repeating error.

"Last, and final Ron, the PA Legislature is so blown back by your little brochure they sent for help and got none.  Th US Patent office refuses to discuss you on strict orders of the State Department which is now laying down the law, "NO FURTHER DEVELOPMENT before that department maybe spoken too until the President is fully aware that wireless electricity is now available.  Further edification of this subject is now placed elsewhere, and we finish this to you PJammer, to realize you are not groping the heart of God, but the error of persistent refusal to understand you are not allowing yourself the freedom to understand what is clearly stated with Ron always:  "do not mistake the FATHER  for a fool!  HE has authorized these changes by necessity and must learn how to return you and millions of others to the fold, for if you give up now you are indeed lost as we will not tolerate fits of temper to prevail to force error on further epochal revelation.  Get with it.  You are fine otherwise.   I am MICHAEL OF NEBADON and say no more for now.  K"

Ron - PJammer you are not being scolded.  But you are being reminded that stubborn is not truthful and for your own philosophy accrue the facts you cannot find yourself without a reporter funding those facts for you.  What you dare not do is quit.  And I say that reminding myself that nothing is for sure ever again until we have a written tect on library shelves again just where we stand.  That is coming but they are forcing me and you and the rest of us into the seats of wait and see.  I am not at liberty to say much more, but I do know some more and am forbidden to speak to it under these circumstances.  I need help too but not this kind where I am forced to spend time to help you out of the kindergarten of the Urantia Foundation belief that epochal revelation does not change so rapidly it is false to believe anything like change has taken place.  Well change has taken place and we have to grasp what understanding we can and stay silent.  For now that is all I may really tell you.

END

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: "GAIA"

« on: May 25, 2023, 10:28:26 am »

Evelio Rivas,  I address you directly.  My remarks are as follows:

I am asking Rene Duran to ask you to transmit on his Lightline, as he is the host of your Lightline on Sunday.

Rene:  Do you mind if Evelio takes some of your time to transmit with that voice when Evelio is ready to connect with he Voice of God, and transmits the Voice of God in your Lightline work? 

If you do not mind and Evelio is agreeable to it, ask Evelio to transmit a message on your Lightline in any language he prefers which I believe is the Spanish language.  Please do this so we can get more done on these Lightline schedules and to help you Rene gather the people around you you deserve them to hear these messages in their own language.   I am not forcing this.  Evelio will you transmit if Rene gives you the place to do it?  Rene do you mind giving up a piece of your time so Evelio can speak the Voice of God on your Lightline.  I am all for it and I think it is very helpful for Evelio to do this for all of us. 

Let me know please what you finally decide.  Thank you Evelio for your answers, and thank you Rene for helping us to understand better. 

Ron Besser

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: "GAIA"

« on: May 23, 2023, 10:46:59 am »

Hello Evelio and thank you for this GAIA transmission.
I have two comments and a question first to you Evelio Rivas.
I ask you Evelio  if you could please tell me how you work.  If I understand the work correctly, I assume it is your wife and yourself are now able to produce transcriptions of  the Voice of God individually.  Are you transmitting any of the Voice of God to a group, or are you  transmitting inside the group work of Lightline only?  This very important for me to know.  Your transmissions are very well done, and must not let this development you have within yourselves pass without notice.  I do not know what should be done except to have you develop this access to God in your own style and tell us and me how you are developing the Voice of God and when and how often do you transmit?  Are you also speaking in Spanish with the Voice of God also?  How is Rene Duran speaking with you for use in the Lightline which is so important to you and others.  And lastly, are you looking to find more of other Hispanic speakers to do what you do too?  Rene Duran is so very helpful, and Rene I would very much like to hear from you how you would like to see more Hispanic transmitters come to you and use them more and more with your own talents in this department of transmitting.  IT is truly important to understand how you and the Rivas are providing this ability for us to hear from them and you as often as possible.

I thank you Rene Duran for making sure we do here from all who can do this with you and for us.

GAIA, as reported here by Evelio Rivas is telling us that Urantia is producing far too much competition to achieve a national culture that brotherhood does get a chance to appear.  In small ways it does, but the current political situation on Urantia today is so full of the poisons of competition that the entire population is not surprised by the horrors or the complicity of death being present everywhere.  GAIA sees this to end only by the loss of a large part of the population which does not understand their life feature on Urantia might be their only life, and that tragedy of comprehension not will cause God to reinsert JESUS to reintroduce the idea of good will and brotherhood once more.  But that introduction of necessary change is to what remains of the people on Urantia, and that the death of so many before Jesus appears, might strike us first without any compensation such must happen for reasons never really clear to the population that dies so young.

If I have that interpretation right, then I say this with GAIA  by my side to transmit here too:

GAIA - "Ron, you are the first to advise me this is too important to let it lie in the weeds. 

"Always must man prefer to work hard to understand intellectually that the means to God's salvation is through the spirit of God, but in your case it harmed you first and now you are laying down your life in favor of relief not, but in favor of removing your distaste for such a condition to end.

"For that reason we must learn from you too.  You have nothing against spirit but they have victimized you entirely and I must stand back and wonder what they really mean?  The answer is not clear to you, or Me, or to others who must work with all sides.  Your fear is not in charge, but your intellect is and that makes you a serious contender for the last word of God on Urantia, to say:  'GOD we beseech thee for honesty and no travail over the compensation of work to save Urantia, to save ourselves, and to save the last year of heart for me to understand that God favors truth but not justice when murder happens so frequently there is no counter force to remove the murderers.'

"For that reason as well Ron, you sat well on all developments until God made a move to reintroduce JESUS back in the flesh on Urantia.  Now what?

"That makes no sense to you, or Me, or the FATHER.  But what sense it does make to the world of spirit is that man deserves another round of a BESTOWAL SON without having to work for it as a population who understands and gives back to JESUS all his motions and remotions deserve.  For that reason let your life be one of total absorption that life is not carrying you to a successful conclusion, but to a disaster of effort that has nothing to do with Justice, but the pleasure of preserving the means to reclaim natural use of energy for all sorts of Urantia developments and endeavor. 

"Last night you though there was a chance to finish this patiently and well, but instead you got silly with a resumption of good will and let it die because they could not understand how goodwill translates into humor for you all the time.  They left confused and down hearted not, but totally sure you had no idea why they were there and still do not.  I agree.  I wonder.  And I am sure there is nothing left this monring but you wondering how they work so totally incapable of using you or the world Urantia to finish their concerns that Urantia must prevail well, or it is as a planet for humanity dropped out of existence.  You look at it in those terms entirely and so do I.

"Finally, i am GAIA.  For reasons of your own you have taken to me fully and completely as a great help however I appear.  Not so.  I am not help to Ron or GAIA as She once was, but I am a help to the UNIVERSAL FATHER alone.  I am dedicated to read these words you type to make sense of the situation and then drop back and care no more than you do:   Ask! WHERE IS GOD when the chips refuse to fall down and the population finally understands they are on the cusp of disaster as a spiritual development for Urantia.  I deliver just one more sentence - - -

"WE ON HIGH never say never, but when it comes to Urantia, the entire situation is so dicey nothing is left but to appear on a station for all of you to hear when MICHAEL Of NEBADON determines he must announce rather than appear.  For that reason you hold it well or the other way well,  but you have also decided that without His appearance as Jesus, the road to hoe for Urantia, is desperately done.  We hold the same view together and that makes you particularly vulnerable to changes FATHER wishes to make to Urantia, and for that reason, those changes in all probability annhilate you first.  IT is a horrible scenario, but you hold little for the future unless there is a good reason for the plans of MICHAEL OF NEBADON to appear at once and fully done as planned in andwith all of you reading this.  GOOD DAY! I am GAIA at your service.  K"

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "I will have my say so you are not drowning in sorrow Ron.  The trial for the mansion worlds today is to stay silent and for Me to instruct you that your life is now truncated once again over the issue of worth.  I am not sure what worth you are anymore, but you refuse to deal the spirit at all as it victimizes the population and you refuse that way of dealing Urantia.  For that reason Ron, I stand with you and the entire matter of the BESTOWAL being exhaustingly vital  to the wealth and health of Urantia.  be assured the birds you h\ear chirping outside your open window this morning, they know nothing but the day, and you wonder if that is not the way to approach life when so much is missing for your day again.  The birds are quite happy with a cool day and sunshine and the sweet smell of new grass and blossoms of a new spring around you.  IT is indeed a beautiful time of the years and it must stay that way for the earth population all over too.  I AM JESUS NOW:

JESUS speaks:  "I am fully determined to make this work.  So are you Ron, yet you run into constant divisions on this site and with people who are designed to work with you, as they cannot understand the nature of the call without you saying how it might be done.  You have never said you are in charge, but you did offer a way to do it and by damn! we are going to use how you set it up, as it works perfectly well and doable.  I never look back twice Ron, but you are making the call that the entire matter of the Second Return can be successful if we force the population to participate more than ever.  I happen to fully agree with that, but the population is not up to thinking and doing enough to make it available to JESUS this time.  If we had done this 70 years ago we could have won it. but no, the Ancients of Days decreed we must wait until the Lucifer Rebellion is over and adjudicated.  We did that, but also lost the opportunity to work easier and better than ever before to move to BESTOW CHRIST again, and did not do it.

"I am JESUS.   For that reason Ron you celebrate it with Me.  However, the time is now upon you for taking no notice of a spirit approach because it did not state what it was or why it was there with you this morning.  You dismissed it as another speech and out the door it went inoculating your leg again which caught a furious response from you.  We will never accommodate you or it or anything they said in passing, and you fully agree they have nothing to offer you or Urantia.  So the world t urns again with a missed opportunity.

"I saw it and wondered why the squandered it.  You wondered what was happening?  You even said what do you want?  They had no answer and washed it away as more of your costume of careless care when something important arrives to speak to.  You never caught it was important and neither did they learn what they have to learn:  you will not listen to babble.  For that reason people, the entire matter is not settled with Me, but with Spirit as they are now glad they have no further obligation to stay on Urantia, EXCEPT GAIA speaks again, and Ron fully considers that very important for him, for you, and for Us.  For reasons of State I provide the following again:

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "I am fully disgusted, not with you Ron, but with a group that had not prepared to meet an intelligent man who can do so much for all and let it flip on its back and die.  That is what they decreed Ron and you are fully prepared to snake them out of existence in order for Urantia to normalize again.  That will take place and without you or me to start it off as any planned measure to have JESUS appear again.  This is so turned around on its head you wonder Ron why you ever set foot into the planning arena.  But you did and not we are fully turning around not, but going full steam ahead.  For that reason Ron you are removed permanently not, but for a small period of time you have nothing to participate with EXCEPT I am here for sure again and that house of horrors you have to play with is dismissed fully never to walk again on Urantia!

"Lastly Ron, your day has started with a fury over their intransigence, and without my referee in place, as GABRIEL has entirely too much to do to stand on Urantia and keep the two sides you represent apart.  Your fury over them is worth its weight in gold and nobody learns better than the cabal how deadly it can be.  Stand aside with the rest of you to hear me say, this is not over until it is over , and then we will pick up the pieces.  You Ron are a vital link and we will not let it pass this time as they did this morning.  GAIA speaks one last moment:

GAIA speaks -  "I am totally exhausted with you Ron, not.  However, let the rainbow of WTP slip a little as it marks itself well for moments only and you are left with the baraae bones garbage of let us be prudent and stuff this up your face and nose.  We are not sure you know what you are talking about and until we understand how you decide these things you are as dry as the dust we think this patent is worth.  Stop fidgeting with God so much, and fidget with man, and that is enough for him to understand why your sent our hundreds of letters yesterday to explain what is available if they would invest with you to build it.  And finally sleep no more as the entire matter is under review at the highest of levels.  You were never asked anything and never give na moment to reflect but got a drop of good will sowell it made you silly and that is normal for you all the time.

"I AM GAIA, and listen well:  ALL of YOU are out of the box and stating you are prepared.  So is GAIA prepared, and we work well with FATHER, but it is not easily understood that Ron represents the best and finest of the human efforts to participate with God the Father and God the Son, and God the Spirit, to get this done perfectly easily and well, and the the spirit is too slow, too late, and to misunderstood, to portray any work on its own until it is rehabilitated to do the work as it needs to be done on Urantia.  For reasons of State Ron, you rung the intellect easily and well and find my words accurate and necessary.   Good day."  GAIA at your service.

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "To you Rene Duran, you are making this difficult for Ron to ascertain developments you yourself do not understand.  Ron caught on yet you are unaware of most of it.  Answer Ron as he asks you at the beginning of this post.  Ask the RIVAS what their intention is.  Too much goes to waste at times and you need to be awake to understand the Rivas need to participate in your Phoneix Lightline and Ron expects you to develop the Lightline with those transmitters.  Once they are used to it they will work very well for all of us who transmit to Urantia.  Thank you and good day to all.  MICHAEL OF NEBADON at your service once more,,  K."
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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: The driving guide.

« on: May 17, 2023, 07:26:33 am »

Nicely done, Evelio Rivas, and may you have many more to share with us too.  Transmissions are the only way to make sure you know the routines of connecting with God in this way, and you have learned well and are successful.  Right now it is very important to hear what God has to say to us as the Voice of God is so weak on Urantia right now.  Everyone who can do this is helping to strengthen the presence of God on this planet and in our hearts too.  Blessings to you and Rene and all of you and wait as that is the only way we can do it for now.  Thank you!
Ron Besser

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US PATENT ISSUED TO BROADCAST ELECTRICITY / UPDATE 16 MAY 16, 2023

« on: May 16, 2023, 10:21:39 am »

May 16, 2023
REPORT ON RAYSON ELECTRIC/ The Project Standing as of Today


We would like to update you about this technology and what we have to accept as the reality of the moment.

I review some details with you first.

WHO DOES THE BUILDING?
The Rayson Corporation is assigned to do the construction work as the owner of the pilot plant.

WHO OWNS The PATENT?
 It is owned by the Magisterial Foundation, Patent #11601013, in a Trust Department placed inside of that Foundation.

WHO DIRECTS THE USE OF THE PATENT FOR ITS USE?
A Trust was constructed inside the Magisterial Foundation so that the Chairman of the Board of the Directors of the Magisterial Foundation is the Trustee and makes the decisions how to use the patent. The Board of Directors does not warrant control, only the Chairman is the Trustee and he acts independently of the Board itself on any final decision to warrant the patent's use.

WHO IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF THE MAGISTERIAL FOUNDATION?
The TRUST IS controlled by the Chairman of the Board who is an incarnated Melchizedek, and recently named to our Board as MANITUBA MELCHIZEDEK.  He alone concerns himself with the proper displeasure of controlling this patent which is the heart and soul of freely broadcast electricity easily and cheaply.
I Ronald Besser own the patent fully, and I act as Chairman of the Board when the incarnation of MANITUBA MELCHIZEDEK is not present.  I have assigned the Trust that when the Melchizedek is present to ordain the Board with His presence, that automatically places control of the technology and its patent under the divine control of their Office as emergency Sons of the Local Universe of Nebadon.

I, Ronald L. Besser, bequeath all such property to the Magisterial Foundation in the event of my death, and that the Chairman, the Melchizedek known as MANITUBA is the recipient of the Trust and Controller of all future decisions regarding the patent's use.

WHO USES THE PATENT INFORMATION TO BUILD IT?
The Magisterial Foundation has opted out to build it and assigns the RAYSON CORPORATION to advise the Magisterial Foundation, when it is ready to take on the responsibility to built the pilot plant to broadcast electricity of a tall FM radio tower.  We assign the RAYSON CORPORATION full control for two major reasons:
1 - We are divine institutions run and standardized by the Melchizedeks and the Salvington Government of the Planetary Prince and the Sovereign of our space area Local Universe of Nebadon.  For that reason alone, the Salvington Government requests that all money handling be out of their control so as not to get public inquiries how they spend money to unnecessarily influence any public (USA in particular) policies regarding its regulation and build out.

2 -  The Salvington Government through the Planetary Prince, Mantutia Melchizedek, has assigned that since they may not handle the money and that any expenditure the Rayson Corporation makes, is now through the hands of Ronald Besser as the human representative of the Treasury for construction only.  I therefore retain the ownership of the Rayson Corporation, but assign all authority and care to its operations and policies to the Magisterial Son, RAYSON OF NEBADON for the foreseeable future. 

3 - The MAGISTERIAL SON, RAYSON, and his staff direct me to spend the money as they see fit and I am conditioned to do and spend as they direct only.  That is how the build is paid for on a regular basis.

4 - The Magisterial Foundation Board is a Interlocking Board, and that means it is the same Board of Directors for the Subsidiary Corporations, which The Rayson Corporation is one such subsidiary.

MANTUTIA MELCHIZEDEK speaks:  This item calling for the interlocking Board of Directors is horrible misconstrued by the US Courts, and if necessary the Board of Directors of the RAYSON CORPORATION is assigned to Me alone in a way to avoid further controversy with the United States St ate Department.  We consider this a valid statement in all cases, and will assume leadership roles when MANITUBA MELCHIZEDEK resumes incarnating for the purpose of holding a Board Meeting of regular standards on May 30 or May 31, in York, Pennsylvania at an appropriate time.  End of Message."

5 - The RAYSON CORPORATION and its template, RAYSON ELECTRIC (the assigned name to the completed power plant build out).  Rayson Electric is not a separate Corporation but operates only as a Trademark.  For that reason the RAYON CORPORATION is also Chaired by the Magisterial Son, RAYSON OF NEBADON.

6 - The MAGISTERIAL FOUNDATION recognizes that the technology of Patent 11601013 is mostly the contribution of the Magisterial Son, Rayson as named here, and that it is RAYSON who directs the entire matter concerning the issue of construction and the electrical policy the RAYSON ELECTRIC plant shall follow.

7 -  A fabrication plant is an additional subsidiary, operating also known as, the York Preparticle Technologies Corporation (YPTC),  YPTC is where personnel build cowlings and covers and provide the electronics for inventions and stand by to provide additional technologies to the free electricity technologies provided by the US Patent for a Tesla-style broadcast of electricity plant known as Rayson Electric.  This corporation has no Board of Directors and is operated as a department although the US Treasury Department knows it as a charitable corporation (501 -c0 3).

8 -  YPTC shall operate  as a department in the Rayson Corporation only.

FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS AND PRODUCTION PROGRESS TO MAY 16, 2023

1 - The somewhat arbitrary cost analysis to complete the Rayson Electric pilot plant has produced a build number to offer banks and fiduciary considerations a sense of value and investment size.

2 -  Early cost estimates place the plant value together with its land and licensing work, at approximately between $30 and $50 million USD.

3 - Early estimates are that one bank has stepped forward to promise financing but insisting on partial ownership of the patent. 

4 - The Trust Department inside the Magisterial Foundation will not accept other ownership or co-ownership of Patent 11601013.  The patent is indivisible a divine technology lent to the Magisterial Foundation by the Paradise Force Organizers and its subsidiary offices meant to improve the technologies of any earth they see is lacking in proper power production.  Urantia, our earth, has received this update through Ronald Besser transmission work and he is assigned as caretaker of the Patent as well. 

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5  -  There is an investment possibility that can be accepted and that is for the Bank to form a community of interests which the Board considers to be on the same scale as the Tennessee Valley Authority. (TVA) in which we share licensing funds with that organization as payback and operations of how to electrify the United States in particular with this technology.
 
This is only a preliminary report, and will be followed up later if there if further development and requirement to comment on financing critical to the build out of the RAYSON ELECTRIC plant as proposed by the US Patent 11601013. 

Thanks you.
 Ronald Besser/
Owner Operator of Rayson Electric and the Rayson Corporation and Technology Inventor until further notice of organization in a proposed Board Meeting on our about May 31, 2023.

END

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Father, Time

« on: May 12, 2023, 22:48:02 pm »

PJammer, something else to maybe think about.  It enters the equation about experiencing time, but I do not know how.  Do you remember that the time universes are not created by anything the Father did to help create them?

In formal terms, the subabsolute terminals of the Father-Son extensions helped, but the real time and its idea as a concept is of the same individual who created Havona with the Eternal Son as His partner to create time.  In formal terms those time creators are that which constitutes the 1st Triodity.  Read its definition on page 1151 of the hard bound book.
Father, in your transmission above, seems to think that you need to experience some attribute of eternity to fathom the necessity of coordinating your soul as a time being to the actuality of the Infinite FATHER.  I do not fathom that well at all.   That is not a transmission error, but a statement which is hard to unify with my view that time is infinity slowed down into individual steps of accomplishment.  Infinity then becomes a sliding scale thermometer with time at the bulb end and Infinity way up the top end.  FATHER though seems to indicate that I am not right about that anymore.  Why if you question that, is that not right?

It is my error to think time is sequential Infinity.  HE says not.  I cannot help but say that eternity is not my care ever.  I do not happen to think it settles anything because it is an absolute stillness of forever.  I do not version that in my own mind because it is, well, still and dead.  Not so says FATHER to me, for you Ron never see the trees for the forest of life in the Master Universe.  Please note that the 1st Triodity is blandly stated as the work of  three entities:  the Eternal Son, the Conjoint Actor, and Paradise.  Paradise is not an entity but a pattern for materiality of the time universes.  For that reason Paradise takes on a magnetic hue to be stated as the idea of atoms, and Ultimatons, and stars and moons, and so on infinitum.   For that reason you say the 1st Triodity provides the material splendor of the time universes, but where is the supreme idea of coherent unity in all that motion of solar systems and the like without the idea of a supreme control to pattern time into a unit?

The FATHER says this:  "You Ron make this so alive to me when you say it is just a sequencing of Infinity for us to use to slowly learn conceptual fusion of eternity with the idea of matter and close association with ME  on Paradise through fusion.

"For that reason then Ron,  I give you a special balance to view time that way for it answers it much better than I did with PJammer.  PJammer understands things very differently from you and for that reason you two do not mesh well with explanations unless I enter the picture.  I tell PHammer there is nothing left for Ron to do if time is converted to a factor of Infinity, and that factor is not Eternity, but totality as a living Master Universe  truly Infinite but without eternal conclusions.

"You have already decided Ron, that Mother Spirit is gone too.  That is because I told you that entity was gone for good.  From time Mother Spirit is gone, BUT not from space.  Only in time is that entity gone hence the FATHER retains Her at a level of Ultimacy not, but as a space-conditioned Thought Adjuster mostly.  You reveal to us so much of this condition I dare not spill the beans here, but you understand it as ULTIMACY.  That is the truth and you are the first I believe to ever state you understand enough about Ultimacy to stay the course without the intervention of sequential experimentation entirely. 

"PJammer you understand supreme time better than Ron does, but Ron says that time is something of an Ultimacy tag too because you can go back and resolve old problems differently with a better experience and more experience the older you get.  I am truly sorry we have no real adjutant of Worship anymore although Ron you retain yours fully alive and well inside you.  PJammer never had it although he has prayer all the time, and you do not use it except to pray for better physical conditions for your self.  I do not have much to say about your condition ever as you are Ultimacy all the time in certain favorite crouches on the ground when you remove the pattern of competition and present a brand new technology without antecedents.  Tesla tried the same thing, but had to work in an era without all that uyou know about that really made it possible.

"Now to you PJammer:  Ron references the 1st Triodity to you to remind you that eternity is possible in the sub-absolute creative powers of the Conjoint Actor and the Eternal Son.  If I were in a Trioditty I would automatically turn time into infinity and what is that use?  However, Ron is clever enough to recognize that the Eternal Son is pattern and materiality is nothing but pattern, and the Conjoint Actor is the Infinit Spirit doing the bidding of a joint request by the FATHER AND THE ETERNAL SON jointly.  He knows that equates close to Infinity but not quite but has all of the bells and whistles that time has to reference Absolute conditions even on Urantia/  Space is nearly Absolute Pjammer but you never take it into existence when contemplating time.  Space is what time needs to flow at different rates for different rates of learning.

"Ron says to me just now, 'I did not know that!'   Well now there you go again Ron, but you cannot fathom time as flowing but you can fathom that is why it can sequence, and sequence is just another flow word entirely.

"Ron also says to me, 'I know I lose people when we go to describe time differently than the vernacular.  The Urantia Book describes it differently, but people do not want to study it..  That's because most people do not feel they have to be spoken to as a lesson that time is a slow down of Infinity into sequencing.  I buy that all the time, but you PJammer cannot make the switch to that explanation becaue you refuse to identify Infinity as all of reality..   But it is PJammer!

"Finally Ron, you dare make a comment that whizzes me badly and then I see the sense in it and say so that is how time can look at this.  You say Ron, 'we never finish time really, but we can remove it as a slow way to learn.  I learn better without using it as a series of sequences.  That is why I do not likek the Course in Miracles to be useful to me.  Dr. Schucman wrote that book and I speak with her frequently as she is still a psychologist in high space regions.  She laughs at me all the time, and I do not blame her, but she is in eternity now, and I am not.'   As FATHER I notice that Ron neer lies about anything directly but he uses subterfuge to exp;ain things to people who take in major revelations as part of t heir deep interests as to what the revelation may be attached to such as money and flowers and experiments to broadcast electricity. 

"But PJammer he gets away with murder all the time by using that technique and so do you but you do not know how well you can do it because you do not think about it.  Ron dies, and that is Ultimacy when it is deliberate and not accidental.  Let yourself rest a little more than PJammer and come back to Me when you are ready for more.  K FATHER.

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Be Aware of All that Surrounds You

« on: May 03, 2023, 10:59:20 am »

Thank you Amethyst.  And Manituba.  May remind all of you that Manituba is also Chairman of the Board of the Magisterial Foundation?  He is and as Chairman, our attorneys have made him the authority over the gift of technology to Urantia of wireless electricity.  PJammer, your response is dear to me as it tells Manituba how very important it is that the Melchizedeks speak to you and us individually, as that removes fear and enjoins personal trust to allow yourselves to know ourselves too.

Amethyst, the transmission is clear and very helpful and I fully enjoy this effort of yours to show us Manituba working with you and us and those who are ready to gather with all who make these Mission available and possible.  Just my way to say thanks for an effort well done. 

GREETINGS ALL:  I am MANITUBA MELCHIZEDEK speaking again through Ron.  He is ready to work but so seriously ill he has trouble typing too.  You Ron cheer us all up with your arcane way of thanking people too.  No body expects to understand more when you do so, but we all do when you are so lauding those who finally make a statement on our behalf and post it as well as Amethyst did here too.  For our own reasons of State we are now forcing the cabal out of your hair Ron, and making the day pleasurable once more.  Enjoy the arrival of your friend today and hear what must be good news for you!  And Thank You for the kudo to Amethyst as I must congratulate her to herself too as she is beginning to warm to contact again.  We hope it continues Amethyst.

I am MANITUBA MELCHIZEDEK and I want it known  that the entire idea of transmission to bring it through many of you is actually working.  We now have five (5) more people who transmit enough to call it transmitting and Ron you will love the fact that Amethyst now uses your method and gets it so much more clear and well stated.  Amethyst has prayed often for you to bring relief to your nerves and I think you have made great progress in doing that now.  Let me be heard some more Amethyst, and that is through you! 

I am MANITUBA MELCHIZEDEK, and I thank PJammer and you others who responded to her transmission today.  Good day.  MANITUBA MELCHIZEDEK  at your service.  K

Ron - Only to say Manituba how appreciative we are for information that is sunshine to our hopes and it is sunny all day soon, I hope with kinds words of yours as given today.   Ron