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Thank you dear Lord of Nebadon!
Our Heavenly Father! Thy will be done, not mine!
Спасибо дорогой Властелин Небадона!
Отец наш Небесный! Да исполнится воля Твоя, а не моя!
Alexander Prozonov, I had this vision with you.  When a dream is so convoluted it means it is meant to be remembered because it has a strong message for you to understand.

The faces are black and they were capes that shroud their forms.  They are the living dead.

The doors are opened as Christ Michael calls them away form our planet.  They will be discarded as lost to spirit and they leave willingly to be done with it all finally.  There is no resurrection for the living dead.

You step inside one of the open doors as you are moved to see what caused them to vacate their hiding places.

The door and all escape closed off around you once inside where they used to be.  That is your own desire to be safe and not leave your life and home because you fear death more than you know.  It will come to you as the sleep out of nowhere and hold you safe for a new life.  That you saw nothing is the fact that spirit never shows the next life before the old one is ended.  

MICHAEL OF NEBADON = "Prozonov, Ron had this identical dream with you.  He saw it clearly and knew the one's without Adjusters any longer, died long ago and that the call of Gabriel for all the dead to remove themselves found them hiding and seeing the doors open showed them to those of you who dream such things where they hid and that had to leave.  Their capes were the pretensions of good living all the while the capes hid they were already dead.  I am Michael and I tell you this Prozonov,  You now have every chance to shine in life and you will never be among the living dead. Abide in me and let the good news show forth in your mind and for your heart with the people too.  Good day,  Michael."

December 13, 2018 Samara, local time is 19.30.
Message after a strong signal.
The events taking place on the planet in world politics can lead to a serious exacerbation of a situation that can get out of control. We will try to discourage this and spell out our plans for Urantia in the coming address of Christ Michael.
Friends! Yesterday, after the evening prayer, before falling asleep, I was shown a symbolic picture:
I am in the dark.
Suddenly I saw a glimpse of light in the distance.
Coming to the light.
Suddenly, doors appear in front of me.
They are moving apart and people are leaving.
Men and women.
They are dressed in some kind of dark long capes.
But the heads of the people are black.
When everyone came out I went inside.
The doors closed.
There is no way back.
Then I saw the light again.
Divine Light.
And I went to this world.
Alexander Prozonov.
13 декабря 2018 года Самара, местное время 19.30.
Сообщение после сильного сигнала.
Происходящие на планете события в мировой политике могут привести к серьезному обострению ситуации, которая может выйти из под контроля. Мы постараемся воспрепятствовать этому и изложить свои планы на Урантии в ближайшем обращении Христа Михаила.
Друзья! Вчера, после вечерней молитвы, перед тем, как заснуть, мне показали символическую картинку:
Я нахожусь в темноте.
Вдруг вдали увидел проблеск света.
Иду на свет.
Внезапно передо мной появляются двери.
Они раздвигаются и из них выходят люди.
Мужчины и женщины.
Они одеты в какие-то темные длинные накидки.
Но головы людей – черные.
Когда все вышли я зашел во внутрь.
Двери закрылись.
Обратного пути нет.
Тут я опять увидел свет.
Божественный свет.
И я пошел на этот свет.
С уважением,
Александр Прозонов.
General Discussion / New Era Transition 52
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New Era Transition 52 – Curiosity questions; Human Potential; Cataclysms; Belief Systems
Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager
What are curiosity questions?
The broad brush of the Correcting Time
Are we ready for contact with other civilizations?
The protection of quarantined planets
The seven dimensions of human potential
How the Correcting Time affects the “swamp”
Are the seven dimensions of human potential related to the seven Psychic Circles?
Charity versus enablement
Protection from cataclysms until now
Internet communications prepare us for cataclysms now
Adding human caused cataclysms
Internal refugees
Changing belief systems
Transmitter/Receiver: Daniel Raphael, PhD
 Team members present: Roxanne Andrews, Craig Carmichael, Liz Cratty, Jeff Cutler, Doug Dodge, Stéphane Labonteé, Michael McCray and Sherille Raphael
Invocation: Michael
December 3, 2018
1. What are curiosity questions?
MACHIVENTA: Good morning, this is Machiventa Melchizedek. This morning I would like to answer a longstanding question that you had in your minds. You may not have asked it, but you have asked for the answers to these questions for a long time, and that is “what is a curiosity question?” The curiosity questions come in two forms that we can address or not address. The first type of curiosity question is one that dovetails with our work; one that satisfies our need to share with you the information of the Correcting Time, this Transition Era and so on, a question that compliments in some way our work with you and our work ahead.
The other type of question is one that is a curiosity question that if we answered would satisfy your need for a personal answer to a personal question concerning something that is not relevant to our joint co-creative work together. It may be peripheral; it may be of interest to someone, but it does not necessarily complement our work. Yes, you may want to know what it is like to be a spiritual person on one of the training worlds around Uversa, but that is not directly related to what we are doing. Ours is much more immediate; it is much more focused; much more tangible and related to what you can do with us for your future and for the future of your children and great-great-grandchildren, and so on. It is not that you are not worthy and deserving of these answers to your curiosity questions, but it sets the stage to take us aside from our work together. It is important that we during this shortening time have much more focus on what we are doing together.
2. The broad brush of the Correcting Time
If you are well acquainted with the Bay of Fundy, you may recall that it has a very wide opening, ending in a very narrow bay. The water can raise 5 feet, but it takes maybe 3 miles or more for it to reach that point. So when the tide raises, it raises very rapidly and if you are even on a horse you could not outrun it. We are at the tightening point of the Bay of Fundy where the tide is rising and the time is perfect for us to begin the work around you and in the world and on a global basis to carry our Christ Michael’s mandate for the Correcting Time for this world and all other worlds that were in quarantine. Where we began at the wide opening of the Bay that was at the entrance of the Teaching Mission, and then we had the Magisterial Mission and now we are full bore into the work of the Correcting Time concerning the correcting of the problems of the past in many of your belief systems around the world, and in your social institutions.
We have taken a very broad brush to the problems of this world, much as we have been striving to train you as a planetary manager, that you may incorporate many diverse views, but with a single focus of effective accomplishment to bring about the Days of Light and Life. In effect a broad stroke in our work, many of you have not been able to see the broader picture of our work, and you have been looking to the finer points of yes and no answers of what are we doing now, “Is it this, or is it that?” Therefore we have had difficulty answering your questions and it is such now that our work is so diverse and so broad that we are striving to seek questions for you that helps to unlock this pattern of management and development so that our readership can appreciate and gain wisdom and knowledge.
I am open for questions if you have them.
Stéphane: How are you?
MACHIVENTA: Very good, thank you, I am in good health. (Laughter from the group.)
3. Are we ready for contact with other civilizations?
Stéphane: So am I as this is Monday morning. I have a question that is both curiosity but also has relevance with Planetary Management. I’ve asked you before about when we will be ready for Monjoronson’s material showing on Urantia and you’ve answered that accordingly, but our instruments are now finding evidence for worlds/planets around other suns and we have evidence of other civilizations visiting us. My question is: Are we ready now, or is there a time in the near future when Urantia civilizations will be ready to accept and communicate with other civilizations? My thinking is that since these beings are material, it is easier for us to accept their existence and enhance our understanding of Universe realities through these revelations.
MACHIVENTA: You are correct, the time is approaching, but it is not close when Monjoronson would appear. Your discussion of the other planets being discovered, the exoplanets even in some constellations and stars that are very close to Urantia, which may give you some indication that there are worlds mentioned in the Urantia Book that are close to your solar system, but which you will probably never see or become acquainted with until your technologies can approach faster than light capability. What we are looking for—and this means the larger management team in the Correcting Time for Urantia—is the openness to accept other intelligences. There is on Urantia, particularly in the more developed nations, a sense of self-assuredness that they “know everything” and that “what can anybody else teach us?”
One of the startling facts about the Universe is that all the nations and all of the civilizations that have visited [Urantia] currently, not historically, but currently are such that they are far more evolved than your most evolved technological systems, belief systems and cultures. There has been historically, throughout all the last 30,000 years of “civilization” the tendency to think that this is the only planet on which life has developed and that this is the center of the universe and not too many centuries ago it was believed that the entire universe rotated around earth. Now you know better; now the technologies have revealed that there are other planets and the question is whether they are inhabited or not.
When you realize that your species has had the epigenesis of self-encultured belief that it is the only inhabited world in the universe, then it will be a shocking, startling fact that will be so adamantly opposed by some, embraced by a few, and others will be simply dumbfounded that you are not alone in the universe, and that these people could perhaps have a benevolent attitude toward earthlings/Urantians. That will take some time to be ingested into the present generations and enculturated into coming generations, the fact that there are other beings that are here with you and have technologies that they are capable of cloaking their presence so that they are invisible to your radar and even to thermal signatures and so on. The first reactions will be of enormous fear on a personal basis and a global basis. There will be a wildly unimaginable fear of individuals who will immediately arm themselves to act against this presence, not knowing whether that presence is benevolent or hostile.
4. The protection of quarantined planets
As you know, your planet has been protected for some time and continues to be protected and will be protected from those forces outside your planet which are not benevolent, but malevolent. It is important that this world, one of the quarantine planets be able to produce individuals who will become Finaliters with immense, tremendous Agondonter experience to be a part of the Universe in that future era. So, when you take those things into consideration, how would Monjoronson be received? He would not be received well; even those who are of traditional conservative God centered belief systems will be up in arms that another being is here. A benevolent being of Monjoronson’s stature and capability would be much feared by most people of Urantia, including almost the majority of all those who are of the God believing faiths.
So when you take those things into account, it is much like introducing in a much more humble basis and similar to if you have an apartment and you have a cat—a cat that you have loved for many, many years—and you have finally decided to have a young dog come into your presence. How would you introduce that new dog to your apartment and your cat without there being violence occurring when the dog is brought in? There is a sneaky way of doing that for those who are cat owners who want a dog, and that is to know when your cat is sleeping, bring in the dog, leave it in another room and then by happenstance the cat will eventually introduce itself to the dog, thus avoiding the alienation of the friendship between the cat and yourself when the dog is introduced. Now, had you brought in the dog in your arms and presented it to the cat, you would have big problems! In that story, it is much as Monjoronson will arrive here. There must be the introductory phase of other beings, of other planets, of other civilizations that are benevolent to your world and to you personally, and to your civilization. Therefore, Monjoronson will be some time in coming.
Stéphane: Machiventa, would the analogy of you incarnating in Abraham’s time, where you appeared as a grown man of the races and introduced yourself as a priest from a distant land, and as such there was not that assumption that you had come from the heavens. Could Monjoronson appear in the same way?
MACHIVENTA: Most certainly.
Stéphane: As far as the sequence for the acceptance of these realities, would the sequence involve having contacts with civilizations from other planets before we make contact with Monjoronson?
MACHIVENTA: I will leave that to your imagination.
Stéphane: Very good; thank you.
Roxie: I thank you for that explanation, Machiventa; it has answered a lot of my questions and suspicions! I appreciate the information.
5. The seven dimensions of human potential
Liz: Last time we gathered, you mentioned the seven dimensions of human potential. Would you care to expound upon that?
MACHIVENTA: Yes, I would be glad to. If you compare a person who is marginally literate and educated from the hinterlands, let us say, to a person who is about the same age, well read, who has traveled afar, who has read and explored and striven to explore the potential within themselves, there would be a vast difference. The work of the Correcting Time is to develop the full potential that lies within each individual and that potential is far greater than those seven spheres of human potential that were mentioned. It includes many aspects of your being which are pre-morontial, but it is not necessary for us to discuss those today.
You have an awareness of what is physical, what is mental, emotional, intellectual, cultural, social and spiritual, so that in these seven spheres you tangibly know what I am talking about. You know the full breadth of potential within you; that is the breadth of the seven potentials within you that you can act upon to prepare yourself to become a more spiritually evolved individual. If you were lacking in awareness of one of those spheres of potential, then you are shorting yourself in the capacity to prepare yourself for a morontial existence. If you are missing, let us say, of four of the seven, then you would be very much handicapped about your capacity to develop yourself. Even as a mortal on this planet you would have a difficult time integrating yourself into the larger seven spheres that are being explored and have been explored in your civilization and in your cultures. When you have explored those seven spheres within yourself as an individual, then you have prepared yourself to be very broad-minded; and when you have developed those seven spheres, your biases, prejudices, bigotries and even opinions have begun to wane and disappear. You become more accepting of yourself in your intrapersonal relationship with who you are, what you are and with the potential of what you can become.
It is important that these spheres be explored in breadth and in depth. It means that you begin to know about your emotions, where they come from—and that includes fear, and are those fears real? And we have told you and shown you many times, as Rayson has told you in the past, what fear is and what fear is not; what fear is rational and what fears are irrational. It helps to know yourself to be able to determine when you are confronted by new situations whether you are nervous about it, or scared and afraid and fearful. It is important again, to work that word called “discernment” to grow into each of these seven realms. When you have the capacity of discernment, that means that you have the capacity to be an inquiring member of your human race, that you are open to listen to new ideas, that you are able to reflect on those ideas and then form a series of questions of inquiry to discern more about what it is that is being discussed. You then reflect on that further and you would see perhaps there would be a lesson to be learned here.
And when you take the full breadth of all the lessons concerning that topic, then you would want to come away with the wisdom that would guide you in all similar situations, and also vicariously project that onto other similar safe situations that are unrelated to that topic or to the genre of that topic. Now you have begun the process of becoming a planetary member as a citizen of your planet. It will eventually lead you to become a citizen of the universe in your morontial career, and this provides you with the very large perspective of being a morontial being and to be accepting of the new lessons and planets and classrooms that you will attend in the future. That is what those seven spheres of human potential are all about.
Liz: Thank you very much for that answer.
6. How the Correcting Time affects the “swamp”
Craig: It seems as though there is a lot happening behind the scenes that is intended to correct the corruption and tendency to form an oligarchy in the United States right now, and that is going to be seen soon, but my thought is that if that happens and they get rid of a lot of corrupt people it is still a “swamp” and will tend to refill again in the future unless we change the way we are doing things. I am thinking that dovetails into the Correcting Time, that we will be changing the way that nations are being run and this’ll give us a better opportunity to be able to do that without having to contend with a lot of self-serving people in all the high places. Does that strike any sort of bell as being part of the plan?
MACHIVENTA: Most certainly. You are seeing the trees in the forest; we in the background of it all are working on the forest. And the forest is this: When you come down to all human activity, it comes down to making decisions. Decisions are made by the thousands by you every day, only some of which are you aware of, and that you have the capacity to change the direction of your life. We too, have the capacity to influence all of humanity in the decision-making process by introducing values that underlie all human decision-making. This has been discussed with you numerous times in the past, so we will not go into detail about that, but for our program, which as a Planetary Management Team is concerned about, is all people, in all places, in all cultures, all races, ethnicities, nationalities and genders.
Everyone does one thing every day, and that is make many decisions. If we can begin the process of influencing and substituting the value systems that people use to make those decisions, then we will be on a course to change all human civilizations now and into the future. You see there are many erroneous value systems that are in operation on your world; you are looking at the political and the financial. Those are very narrow platforms, very narrow venues for making decisions either for or against the welfare of your planet. We, however, are taking the far broader view and the far broader program of correction by beginning at its source, and that is in its values that are being enculturated and socialized into the minds and psyches and personalities of each new generation. If we can begin to change that, then we will be able to begin to change the course of all cultures, all nations, all races, all ethnic groups and so on. It is important for us that we begin everywhere simultaneously. At least the approach is the same for everyone. This applies to all people, though as you know we know, that there are many nations and cultures and groups of people who will not be amenable to this, and not even approachable to share this information.
We are much like the fog that comes into a valley—we will be present with everyone, we will be surrounding everyone, and in fact when you go outside and breathe the foggy air, it will become a part of you, and that is our plan for the political problem that you see, or the cultural problems that we see, and for the oligarchy. Soon they will be surrounded and they will have no choice but to either hideaway in their houses and their mansions, or to accept what is occurring around them with the new value systems. Yes, this is not a fast process; it is not something that occurs overnight, even in 5 years, 10 years or 20 years, but within 2, 3 or 4 generations. In 4 generations we will have wrapped these values around your world and for many people in the 1st and 2nd generation, they will accept these values wholeheartedly and begin living by these values and making appropriate decisions. Thank you for your question, though my answers may have gone far astray from what you had thought.
Craig: That’s alright, it’s really interesting and just the way it should proceed; sounds great.
7. Ambassadors
Doug: My question is, in the Ordination of the Twelve, Jesus talks about being ambassadors from another world. Is that a good analogy for us today to try to see ourselves as ambassadors, or is there a better analogy for cosmic citizenship?
MACHIVENTA: Let us leave out the part about citizenship; let us focus more upon ambassadors, and I like what you have said about from another world, because in many ways, your belief systems and how you make decisions now, and how you approach other individuals, you are truly acting as though you are visitors from another world, because you think differently; you have begun to develop a far different culture than the one that was stated in the previous question.
You are of a new culture; you are bringing a new exoplanetary culture on this world in your very presence here. You are truly ambassadors of Christ Michael on this world. He, as Jesus, did bring forward a new culture, a new way of thinking, a new decision-making process. It is our chore now to plant them firmly in place with very specific processes of socialization and enculturation to create a far broader culture of brotherhood and sisterhood. It is a family without the dysfunctions of most Urantian families; it is a family of kinship, of oneness, of culture and an affinity for that which is good, that which is right, and that which works for all concerned. It is a culture of confidence that this is the right way to go, that produces right results, correct results, results that work for everyone. When you have fully ingested this and become a part of this, then you will come to the point where you can more fully develop those seven spheres of human potentials that prepare you then for becoming a cosmic citizen.
Doug: Thank you.
Jeff: I have a question in a different vein. Roxie sent me a copy of conversations that you had with Michel Levasseur. In that conversation, in the introduction it says that “we inform you that a web site will be set up and this web site will be accessible in several languages.” Has that web site been set up yet, and if so, is there an address where I can write down to access it?
MACHIVENTA: Your question would be more appropriately directed to the Transmitter/Receiver of that session.
8. Are the seven dimensions of human potential related to the seven Psychic Circles?
Stéphane: About the seven dimensions of human development, are they directly related to the seven Psychic Circles, or our ability to ascend the seven Psychic Circles?
MACHIVENTA: They are somewhat related. The exploration in the breadth and depth of these seven spheres of human potential will assist you to become much more morontial at an earlier time in your life, so that you will begin to act and relate, make decisions more in accord of a morontial being while you are still mortal. It is a process where you become more capable of ascending inward in those circles. You want yourself to become more capable, and in the process of exploring those seven areas of potential, you will be whittling away at the negative indoctrination that you have received as an individual child and as an adult, and so on. It will be a process by which you become much more forgiving and forgetting of those negative experiences in your life. You can measure your progress by your opinions of those people who have oppressed you in the past. If you still have negative thoughts about them, then you still have work to do. If you can accept the persona of Jesus and forgive them totally, then you are moving in the right direction. These negative influences in the thinking structures of yourself are what hinder individuals from becoming much more like Jesus was as a mortal here. You want to erode/dissolve those negative influences that prevent you from becoming all that you can become in all seven spheres, and as an ascending mortal through the seven Psychic Circles, as you call them. Do you have further questions regarding that?
Stéphane: (Pause while thinking.)
MACHIVENTA: To fill in the blank here, when you do become much more experienced in each of those seven areas, and become acquainted with all of them and each one in some depth, then you have more capability of ascending through the Circles more easily and to progress in your spiritual dimensions, even in the pre-morontial dimensions of your mortal lifetime.
Stéphane: Thank you. To recap, to be able to express ourselves truly in the seven dimensions of human development, one will better learn to be an empathetic, compassionate, loving person. Thank you.
MACHIVENTA: You are most welcome.
9. Charity versus enablement
Liz: Machiventa, when you spoke last time of these seven dimensions of human potential, I though perhaps you were talking about the seven Psychic Circles, so I went to the Urantia text, and what I gleaned from that was decisions, decisions, decisions, and every decision of those thousands of decisions that we make daily that you just spoke of, is how we ascend these seven Circles. These decisions get more and more difficult, the more I try to embrace the values. The challenges become finer and finer on the points—it’s easy in the beginning to take a broad decision based on broad values but when it comes down to the nitty-gritty, like for example the difference between enabling someone and charity, sometimes that decision is very, very narrow. I’m not sure where I should look for guidelines for that.
MACHIVENTA: I can appreciate your struggle with that, that it is part and parcel of your own ascension through those circles. It is again, a matter of discernment. For one, you have a limited mind; yes, it is infinite in its capacity for you to explore, and its capacity to aid you to grow, but you must be the initiator of that growth. Now let us use your example between charity and enablement. The discernment is this, you will gain as you grow through the Circles and in your exploration of the seven dimensions of your potential, you will truly grow in the fine points that you are seeking. You have a disability built into your culture and your language, because it is not finely developed. If you have for example, of the Eskimos’ words for the various forms of snow and ice, then apply that to personal relationships, you will see that the gap between enablement and charity is huge.
The first concern, of course for yourself and for others with whom you are working with or care about—even strangers you care about—is to empower them. Is your gift truly charity? Or is it enablement? Does your gift empower them to become more whole in their being? For you to say, “Well I was really talking about Christmas Dinner for a number of people that I could give $100 to and perhaps feed 75.” That is wonderful charity; that is an action that is needed in your culture at this time and is called generosity. It is an act of compassion generated by your empathy and your action to share that $100. You see, there are many fine points that you do not see, and it is most unfortunate. Part of the discernment is not analyzing, but looking within your own heart: Is there an ulterior reason for doing this? Is there some motive there? Is there some agenda there? Is this done with a pure and clean heart without any attachments? That is essential in the beginning whether it is charity or whether it is empowerment.
If you have an empowerment gift, then you must not give that gift with any attachments. It is much like giving a gift that is very dear to you to a friend and you hope that they would cherish it as much as you do, but later you find out that they had given it away to Goodwill or another group, and your heart is broken. Well, you must recognize that development for what the message gives you—you had an attachment to it; you had an expectation for the gift and for the relationship, which is unhealthy. When you give a gift, you release it. The other person may use it to go out and buy a bottle of wine, or they may go out to share with other friends who are destitute and living in little tents on the street. You do not know where your money goes, or your gifts go. It is good to approach all of this with a good heart, without any attachments, with sincere generosity and we would advise also that you project the highest good for this gift that you give and for how this person interprets it. Your gifts of prayers then have the potential to become far more meaningful for you as a giver and for them as a receiver, who can then share the gift with others.
Liz: Thank you very much.
Stéphane: Machiventa, along those lines, giving to charities and knowing that the money given to a noble cause will not be managed appropriately, I have a problem with giving to those charities, as there have been multiple evidences that those moneys are not managed in the way that they are being portrayed.
MACHIVENTA: That echoes our own concerns as well. It is one of those situations and problems that we are addressing behind the scenes, so to speak, in the fog of benevolence to help people make right and correct decisions. When people are consciously aware of the values upon which they are making their decisions, and then hold those values up against the decisions of others, and that these values are tried and true, universal and timeless, and that they lead to an ethic and morality that are consistent with the highest good of being a human and of being a morontial being, then you will have the capacity to bring those people into question and into eventual civil courts for the judgment and adjudication that they are deserving of.
10. Suicide
Roxie: If there are no more questions from our group, I have one from one of our readers. Rick Brunson has 3 short questions on the subject of suicides. His first one is:
“Are the Fentanyl, opiate and suicide crisis’s allowing natural selection to work its course?”
MACHIVENTA: One moment. No, the opiates actually sideline the development of the individual. When these end in the death of that individual without anyone else’s assistance, we would not term that as suicide. If opiates, as you say, are used in excess and are intentionally used to end the life of the user, then that is suicide. When you see opiate addiction and addictions of other sorts, those sideline or set that person aside out of the stream of their life and that they are in fact “neutralized” to become an ascending individual. Some of those non-ascending individuals, who end their lives in death will have their own difficulties to attend to in the morontial realm, and I will not disclose those or get into those aspects at this point to answer your question.
Roxie: His next question is a little on what you were just discussing, but perhaps more specific:
“Are people at some level of consciousness, volunteering to remove themselves from society?”
MACHIVENTA: That is both a yes and no answer to that question. Yes, it is on some level—I am struggling with the words to embrace the concepts that you can also embrace—at some “level of consciousness” that would deal with a pre-life state of existence in the soul realms that that individual has gone through. There are those in the soul state who are immature, who are too full of their own selves, even at that level, to accept the fact that there will be circumstances in their mortal life that they cannot overcome. You have seen this many times in your life where you see someone who is definitely an “old soul” or definitely at a soul level of maturity where they have bitten off more than they can chew in this lifetime, that they have empowered an agenda for their mortal life’s development that encompasses far more than they will be capable of dealing with as a mortal growing into their greater self during their short lifetime. Rather than taking on one chore in their lifetime to learn thoroughly and to overcome and to work through, whether that is a positive accomplishment or a negative aspect of growth, they usually can work through that one problem, but when a soul has taken on 2, 3 or 4 items for their growth to jumpstart their soul growth, they are almost always unsuccessful. It is not the quantity of numbers of challenges one must overcome in a lifetime, but the quality of the effort and the striving and the success of overcoming that and thoroughly knowing on the morontial level of who you are and what you are, and what you have become by overcoming that one problem.
As an aside, you would want to know too, that if you have accomplished overcoming one of these challenges successfully that you are open to receive another one. This is usually at somewhat at the conscious level as a mortal, knowing that you have accomplished this and that there is something ahead if you want to embrace it and to overcome it as well. Those who become more capable and competent in overcoming the challenges of the mortal lifetime usually do take on a second and even a third challenge to enhance their growth and their maturity. And even if they are successful on their 3rd or 4th challenge in their lifetime, they have still learned enough about that challenge to gain the capacity to engage the problem with others in the afterlife, the morontial life, to discuss this with others who have overcome it and learned from that situation vicariously from their morontial brothers and sisters.
Roxie: His last question, I’m not sure if it is directly related to what you’ve already said, but I think it refers to his preliminary statement to me that he’s talking about suicide deaths becoming an all time high in the past year.
    “Is this somehow related to the closing of the dark circuits?”
MACHIVENTA: I will answer you emphatically “no.”
Roxie: Thank you. That’s what I figured from your past statements.
11. Protection from cataclysms until now
Stéphane: We’ve been told that the Power Directors have upheld energies to prevent major geophysical activities from happening on the planet. Can you tell us the reasons why this has happened over the last centuries or millennia? Why have we been protected from these cataclysms up to now?
MACHIVENTA: Most certainly and thank you for your question. The answer has been answered before that the energy vectors have been directed to stave off these cataclysms until a time when the planet had been fully populated and fully developed in many ways. Doing so gives this world a greater benefit of [civilization] learning from its experiences and of overcoming the difficulties. It is a part of the change—you might call it a paradigm change of belief systems and culture of your civilization. It is timely that the manmade minded way of thinking about the world be changed to the other way of thinking, the intuitive, conscientious, cogent way of viewing the world as a whole. The separatism that has been endemic throughout the world must come to an end. It is essential that the entire world see the oneness of everyone who lives and shares in the planet. The cataclysms will present your world, and are presenting your world, with the necessity of thinking outside the old concrete hard, reinforced box of masculine thinking of “My way or the highway” “What I think is the only way to do things,” and “What I think is right and correct.” That simply does not work.
It is essential that the mindset of the world culture now be changed to a holism of oneness. That the true best aspects of feminism be incorporated into that mindset and that the children are not seen as “others” until they are grown up enough to become adult and become a part of the adultism that causes so much grief to children who are growing up. This is the most opportune time in your world to release those energies to express themselves on your world. It will bring about yes, a decimation of many billions of peoples’ lives and they will have their life experience here to use in the morontial life to grow from. Those who remain will see that everything historic has not worked, except those philosophies, those belief systems, those values which include inclusion, oneness, holism and the oneness of all genders, that there is no separation due to gender differences.
The succinct answer through all of that is that this is the most productive time to bring those cataclysms to your world’s doorstep, both for the changing of the guard, so to speak of your civilization, and also to bring about the cleansing of the dark circuits, eliminate those and now to let humanity bring about the best aspects of its gentleness, of its humaneness, of its ennobling qualities without being in danger from those who are hostile and those who were bullies in your world. I know that by saying “this is the most opportune time” that indirectly answers your questions, but it is a time also when the grand and great changes from the world of darkness to a world of light that will support it being the “World of the Cross,” that Christ Michael as Jesus, is the best time to occur.
Stéphane: So, Machiventa, we are better prepared today to be able to show behaviors along the diversity of inclusion and everything that you’ve mentioned than we were 200 years ago, for instance?
MACHIVENTA: Yes, exactly. It is important that these cataclysms be global in nature, so that they affect everyone equally. Two hundred years ago, or 400 years ago, had these cataclysms occurred, they would wipe out only segments of population in specific areas, whereas now it will affect everyone. And everyone, as I said in my earlier statement as a Planetary Manager, we are in the business of addressing the growth of everyone individually and collectively around the world in that we want to prepare the whole world for rebuilding your world after the cataclysms. It is essential that this occur now with the technologies that are at your disposal and our disposal. We can now inform greater numbers of people, many of whom will remain in the world to rebuild your world in the form that will self-support it becoming a world in the Days of Light and Life.
12. Internet communications prepare us for cataclysms now
Stéphane: So I would think that not all of civilizations, for instance Asian, European, Middle Eastern, North American, South Americans are equally prepared to deal with these behaviors, but I would think that the global communications that are available now would enable learning across these civilizations. Is that correct?
MACHIVENTA: That is correct. What we are literally banking on are the banks of Internet memory capacity of all recorded ongoing history and sources of knowledge and wisdom that will still remain after the decimation, which will be a source to guide those who want to rebuild their world.
Stéphane: Thank you.
13. Adding human caused cataclysms
Craig: I see sort of a holism here where we have these pent-up natural disasters occurring and we have a whole bunch of human caused disasters/cataclysms that are going to occur at the same time—the economic cataclysms and the global warming that is causing the sea level to rise, and all that.
MACHIVENTA: You are exactly right. If you are going to do a smash-up, you ought to do it quickly and in grand style. It affects everyone equally; there are no chosen people anymore. You are chosen—you people who have decided to be chosen, you are chosen. You have chosen to be a part of this and you are choosing to become a part of rebuilding your world, and what better people can we have at our use than those people who have chosen to be one with us.
14. Internal refugees
Jeff: I have a question that is not a curiosity question; it has to do with uninvited immigration. I’m thinking about what would be somewhat invited immigration, but if there is a natural disaster like half of California falling into the ocean, I presume from the San Andreas Fault moving, it seems that there would be a tremendous amount of migration both on the West Coast and on the East Coast to safer areas. Is it your opinion that it would be fruitful for us to put an essay or a number of essays on our web site about how small towns or smaller towns can embrace American refugees through a lens of seven core values? Is that an appropriate thought to pursue?
MACHIVENTA: Yes, you must base it on the seven core values and the ethics and morality that emanate from those values. It is a matter of balance; it is a manner of thoughtful use of values. Those values can be used against people, too; it depends upon your ethics, and if you have a morality and ethic that is in concert, agreement, alignment and complemental to those values, then your article would want to include [those] on your site and would be very useful.
Let us bring this to a close today.
Liz: Wonderful session, Machiventa! Thank you so much.
15. Changing belief systems
MACHIVENTA: You, personally, individually and as a team, and as citizens in your nation, you are seeing a world in transition. Many thick big blocks of influence are moving much like great, giant glaciers that break up into icebergs and jostle around to make room for themselves and have a space around them. You are seeing the breakup of the glacier of traditional cultures and belief systems. It is important in this process that something take its place; that something replace those old blocks of thought that are so hard and so resistant to change. They are in many ways crystallized as those icebergs and when they bump into each other, they break apart much as a glass goblet will break apart when you drop it. It is beautiful to see and it works when it is used, but when it is challenged it breaks apart—so too with the old traditional belief systems. You will be seeing this occurring around you more and more rapidly.
It is important that you as individuals have something to suggest to others, have something that you can suggest to the younger generations. You have the Millennials who are floating like so many small icebergs, floating around not knowing where they belong; they do not know their values and they do not know their kinship or their group. They have not asked the questions yet of where they belong, and you will see this more and more as time happens. You in some ways have seen this with the elderly of past generations—they grew up with the horse and buggy, they grew up with walking to school, they grew up in many ways which were consistent and reliable, and then their world changed around them and the values changed and then they are in their deep retirement and saying, “I cannot relate to this world anymore! It is so different.” But they did not ask, “Now what? Now what can I replace my old beliefs with new beliefs that are useful and comfortable to me now?”
And we, in the Correcting Time are presenting you with new belief systems, new values, new ethics, new morality and then your cultures will use those to adapt and to adapt them to the cultures. The change will become slow so that old belief systems that no longer work will morph into new belief systems that do work, and accept the values for decision-making that supports that new culture, one that will be more friendly, more kind, more amenable to the pleasantries of being a child again. Your world has not known itself as a child again; it has only known itself with survival of the fittest and of being challenged by those who would challenge their own lives to live in life peacefully. And so, you have been raised and grown into a brutish world that is very difficult for the kindhearted to live and exist in peacefulness.

This is the change that is occurring in your world. Soon minds that think alike, value alike, believe alike and make decisions alike will find each other more friendly and more caring, and those who are of the old brutish way of life will find themselves on the outside, just as you of this new culture have oftentimes found yourself on the outside of your cultural belief systems today. We are here with you on this journey; we do not leave you alone; we do not leave you without guidance, without support, without the inner glow and fire within your hearts—we are there! Christ Michael is there, Nebadonia is there, and your Thought Adjuster is there. We are your family! Good day.

TRANSLATIONS / Re: Wiadomoci po polsku (Posts in Polish)
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« 12 grudnia 2018, godz. 02:23:35 »

Mówca : Michał Nebadoński
Temat : Zwróćcie się do wnętrza
Przekazujący : Lemuel
Miejsce : Girona, Katalonia, Hiszpania
Data/Godzina : 12 gru. 2018 r. , 8:23 czasu miejscowego, 7:23 UTC

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Zwróćcie się do wnętrza

Lemuel : Dzień dobry.

Michał Nebadoński : Tu Michał Nebadoński. Życzę wam wszystkim bardzo miłego dnia. Przychodzę dziś rano poprzez Lemuela, żeby przypomnieć wszystkim, aby zwracali się do wewnątrz, gdy macie wątpliwości, kiedy się boicie, kiedy nie wiecie co robić, kiedy nie wiecie, w którą stronę się zwrócić, kiedy nie wiecie, którędy iść, aby uzyskać pomoc lub radę, wtedy zwracajcie się do wnętrza, do Mnie.

Jestem waszym Ojcem, a Matka-Duch Nebadonia jest waszą Matką, zwracajcie się do wnętrza, do Nas. Macie również swoje Umiłowane, mieszkające w was Fragmenty Ojca, zwracajcie się do wntrza, do Niego. Również macie Ducha Prawdy, zwracajcie się do wewnątz, do Niego. I macie też Ducha Świętego, zwracajcie się do wewnątrz, do Niego.

Zwracając się do wewnątrz, podporządkowujecie się Wyższym Siłom, Wyższej Energii, Wyższym Inteligencjom, a kiedy zwracacie się do swojej Wyższej Jaźni, to podporządkowujecie się Umiłowanemu Dostrajaczowi Myśli. Pamiętaj, że twój Dostrajacz Myśli to ty i mały ty pewnego dnia stanie się Jednym z Nim.

Nacisk codziennego życia z chwili na chwilę wymaga waszej uwagi dla świata zewnętrznego. Wszyscy musicie iść do codziennych potrzeb, waszych zajęć, waszych obowiązków. Przeżyć więcej niż dzień życia w wielu przypadkach, szczególnie w dużych miastach, to koszmar, z milionami w ruchu na drodze i wszystkimi problemami, które z tego wynikają, jak zanieczyszczanie powietrza i wszystko inne.

Presja współczesnego życia jest naprawdę bardzo wymagająca dla was wszystkich, moje drogie dzieci. Zwracajcie się do wewnątrz, do Mnie, do Nas. Jesteśmy tutaj wszyscy pragnąc jedynie, abyście zwrócili się do Nas po pomoc, poradę i wskazówki. Pamiętajcie, że każdy z was ma cały czas Zespół Przewodników.

Problemem jest zapominanie, nie pamiętanie. Pamiętacie o Nas jedynie, kiedy jesteście w poważnych tarapatach lub jesteście poważnie chorzy i wtedy zaczynacie się modlić. Po pierwsze, zawsze doceniamy bardzo szczerą modlitwę, jest to dla nas, waszych Rodziców, wielka satysfakcja, jeśli zwracacie się do Nas w modlitwie codziennie. W istocie możecie się zwrócić do Nas w modlitwie o każdej porze dnia. Jest to tylko kwestia zachowywania Nas w swoim umyśle, bycia zawsze świadomym Nas.

Po prostu na chwilę zwróćcie się do wewnątrz, bo to jest wszystko, czego potrzeba, tylko abyście się zwracali do wewnątrz. To jest modlitwa, która uznaje Nas, waszych Rodziców, waszego Dostrajacza Myśli, waszych Przewodników oraz Ducha Prawdy i Ducha Świętego. Uznajecie nas za każdym razem, kiedy zwracacie się do wnętrza.

To jest tylko po to, aby przypomnieć każdemu z was, że pomoc jest zawsze pod ręką. Powiedziano wam to już wiele razy : nigdy nie jesteś sam, chociaż wiele razy sądzisz, że jesteś sam, ale nie jesteś, po prostu zapominasz zwrócić się do wewnątrz, do swojej Niebiańskiej Kompanii, twoja Rodzina jest zawsze tutaj z tobą .

Tak więc, krótka wiadomość dziś rano, ale tak ważna, szczególnie teraz. Jak wszyscy wiecie, czekacie na początek ciemnego okresu i będzie to trudny okres dla was wszystkich i na pewno będziecie potrzebowali zwrócić się do wewnątrz o poradę. Tak więc, zostawiam was z tymi kilkoma słowami, aby przypomnieć wam wszystkim - jesteśmy tu dla was. Wszystko, co musicie zrobić, to zwrócić się do wnętrza.

Dziękuję ci za to, że pozwoliłeś mi przyjść dziś rano za twoim pośrednictwem i życzę wam wszystkim bardzo udanego dnia. Dziękuję.

Lemuel : Dziękuję Michale. Domszia
TRANSLATIONS / Re: Wiadomoci po polsku (Posts in Polish)
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Kategoria / Temat : Miejsce na nowe przekazy / Radujcie się
« 12 grudnia 2018 r., godz. 16:28:38 »

Wiadomość od Margula
Odebrała : SophiaVeronica
Przedmiot : Radujcie się
Data : 11 grudnia 2018 r., godz. 23:00 czasu miejscowego

Radujcie się
Bądźmy radośni i spójrzmy na nadchodzące czasy w inny sposób. Ciemność zamieni się w światło, a wybór ludzkości, by odwrócić się od zła do dobra, należy do nich. Ciemność nie będzie trwać wiecznie, gdyż ciemność jest tylko cieniem światła, które się znów pojawi i kiedy ludzie dostrzegą pierwsze przebłyski światła, świat się rozraduje. Ludzie poczują się odrodzeni i nawet w najtrudniejszych chwilach lub okolicznościach będą gotowi współpracować dla dobra wszystkich. Będą zachęcać się i pomagać sobie nawzajem i wejdą na optymistyczną drogę, ponieważ będą wiedzieli, że ciemne godziny minęły i proponowany jest nowy początek.

Żaden człowiek na świecie nie zna swojej przyszłości, ale wiadomo, że ludzkość od najdawniejszych czasów tęskniła za lepszą przyszłością. Jest to uczucie, które napędza ludzkość do przodu, wewnętrzna świadomość, która sprawia, że człowiek dąży do lepszych dni, lepszego zdrowia, lepszych warunków społecznych i ekonomicznych, do bardziej zdrowego życia religijnego, popartego wiedzą naukową i duchową.

Ale to jest właśnie to, co ludzkość z pewnością pomoże stworzyć, gdy świałość nowego poranka zacznie świtać, a cienie powoli znikną. Więc nieście to przesłanie wszystkim, którzy chcą usłyszeć dobrą nowinę, ponieważ potrzebujemy każdego, żeby się przyłączył do tego rozwijającego się ruchu.
Mój pokój niech będzie z wami. Margul
May your will be done Lord Michael.I put my fate in your hands and I will pay what you have planned for us.Thank you very much for wanting us good despite our sins.With all my love and all my respect.
Transcribed from Lemuel’s transmission

Understanding The Trinity

Lemuel : Good morning everyone. Our talk this morning is entitled ‘Understanding the Trinity’. This talk this morning is for the benefit of new members, guests and readers on the forum, who perhaps are not yet familiar with the Papers in Urantia Book, dealing with the Holy Trinity, that is to say the Universal Father, the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit, and how They function as a Trinity and also  how They function individually or together in two’s as duets.

I think a good way to understand this is to think of a trio, a string trio, so we have three very good professional musicians, we have a violin, a viola and the cello. When these three play together they are a trio and it is the same as the Holy Trinity, but in fact there are seven different combinations with any given trio.

So, let’s start at the beginning by saying that the violin can play solo, that is to say the Universal Father can act on His own. In the same way, the Eternal Son can act on His own, that is to say the viola can play as a solo and so can the Infinite Spirit act on His own, that is to say the cello, but when the three play together they are of course a Trinity, a Trio.

So, we have a violin, a viola and the cello playing together as a trio and individually, we have one, two, three playing as solos, we have the Trinity playing together, so that there is four combinations, then we have the violin playing with the viola, we have the viola playing with the cello and the cello playing with the violin, so, together they make up seven combinations.

The Holy Trinity is well-known throughout christianity, It is referred in all religious teachings : the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. For beginners, it is difficult to understand that although the Trio, the Holy Trinity as thus consist of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, that they do and they can work individually, all as I just tried to explain in pairs.

Coming back to the musical trio, they can play string individual instrument as a solo player or they can play with another instrument as a duet and so there are in fact seven combinations possible in any given trio. Well, this is just a short talk this morning, trying to explain to the new comers the Holy Trinity : the Univesal Father, the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit can also work individually or in pairs.

So, I leave it like that for this morning, although there are much more informations that go hand in hand with the trios, also called the Trios Lights, we will talk about that in another occasion. So, this is all for this morning, I thank you so much for listening and I bid you all a very good day, bye-bye for now. Domtia
Speaker: Lemuel
Subject: Understanding The Trinity
Location: Girona, Catalunya, Spain.
Date/Time: 13th Dec. 2018  07:45 Local  06:45 Z
Here are some excerpts from the 'New Stetament' which touches directly my human heart and hoping strongly that the «Second Return of Jesus» will be at the rendezvous next Sunday, as announced on December 16 of this year.

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Father, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread; and forgive us our sins, for we ourselves forgive everyone who is indebted to us; and lead us not into temptation.

Father,..., I pray with all my heart and soul for this to be reality!!!
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