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I read a commentary somewhere explaining how Seraphims work on and influence the relationships between personalities. Does anyone have UB references I can read on this? Thanks. 

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Re: How the Seraphim work on and influence personality relationships...
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2016, 12:46:39 PM »
Your best bet is to read through Paper 39, as this whole chapter describes the various jobs seraphim take on.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2016, 02:02:18 PM »
Your best bet is to read through Paper 39, as this whole chapter describes the various jobs seraphim take on.

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Re: How the Seraphim work on and influence personality relationships...
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2016, 02:26:48 PM »
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Re: How the Seraphim work on and influence personality relationships...
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2016, 03:55:56 PM »
brooklyn_born

In response also to your query about Seraphim, other options you have are
  • "Search" option at the top of this page allows you to type in any topic of interest to search forum posts by "user" (member name of person posting if you type in the name you know) or by topic only, leaving the "*" as is given by default in the user name box
  • For this forum you can also search posts by individual users:  e.g.  from any post you can click on the name of the person posting  and it will take you to their "profile where you can then click on "Show Posts" beneath their name where you can scroll from the most recent until you find the one you want
  • Also, just in case you are unfamiliar with the Teaching Mission Archive sister site, where there is much also available to you,  if you click on "Search Tmarchive Transcripts" above the link will take you to the "search feature" of that site where you can then type in "Seraphim" or whatever subject interests you and you will be given a list of transmissions containing that subject given by various teachers over the years with the Teaching Mission.

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Re: How the Seraphim work on and influence personality relationships...
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2016, 06:11:53 PM »
I read a commentary somewhere explaining how Seraphims work on and influence the relationships between personalities. Does anyone have UB references I can read on this? Thanks.
BB, the Urantia Book goes into much detail when it references angels and seraphim (plural of seraph) and it also follows the normal definitions understood as well as expanding on these definitions.  The one section which may expand on your query may be paper 113 section seven ("7. Seraphim and the Ascendant Career"), where it specifies, in 113:7.2 "... attending seraphim (there are two of them) are your open companions"; but in this section it refers to seraphim associated to the individual on the "morontia spheres", where further on into this section, implies that these seraphim are associated to the mortal of time, human on Urantia, as well but their function is slightly different than on the morontia worlds.  It has been noted on this forum that these seraphim stand next to a person but this would indicate one of the "seraph's" where the other can be considered as the humans material binding unit and to some degree a persons alter-conscious.  By this I would refer one to their conscious mind where for everyone, to some degree, is aware that your consciousness seems to be a duality, where in essence you can have a conversation with your self and it feels like there are two of you. The same UB quotes referenced above refers to this as your "consort".
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(1248.2) 113:7.2 On the morontia spheres the attending seraphim (there are two of them) are your open companions. These angels not only consort with you as you progress through the career of the transition worlds, in every way possible assisting you in the acquirement of morontia and spirit status, but they also avail themselves of the opportunity to advance by study in the extension schools for evolutionary seraphim maintained on the mansion worlds.
It has also been suggested that these angels are in some form "midwayers", but this has been refuted in the Urantia Book as not true, as mentioned in "77:9.1-2" & "77:8.4".
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(865.7) 77:9.1 Midwayers may be regarded as the first group of the permanent inhabitants to be found on the various orders of worlds throughout the universes in contrast with evolutionary ascenders like the mortal creatures and the angelic hosts. Such permanent citizens are encountered at various points in the Paradise ascent.

(866.1) 77:9.2 Unlike the various orders of celestial beings who are assigned to minister on a planet, the midwayers live on an inhabited world. The seraphim come and go, but the midway creatures remain and will remain, albeit they are nonetheless ministers for being natives of the planet, and they provide the one continuing regime which harmonizes and connects the changing administrations of the seraphic hosts.

(864.5) 77:8.4 Midwayers are not men, neither are they angels, but secondary midwayers are, in nature, nearer man than angel; they are, in a way, of your races and are, therefore, very understanding and sympathetic in their contact with human beings; they are invaluable to the seraphim in their work for and with the various races of mankind, and both orders are indispensable to the seraphim who serve as personal guardians to mortals.
It can also be considered that at the end of a mortals life in the flesh, it takes two angels, (Seraph's) to prepare the essence of your physical form to travel to the mansion world.  However, this does not mean that there are not other seraphim who are independent from association with humans.

The other notations in paper 113, section seven, which indicate that these angels are associated to humans are implied within the grammar in their narration.
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(1248.6) 113:7.6 Man and angel may or may not be reunited in eternal service, but wherever seraphic assignment may take them, the seraphim are always in communication with their former wards of the evolutionary worlds, the ascendant mortals of time. The intimate associations and the affectionate attachments of the realms of human origin are never forgotten nor ever completely severed. In the eternal ages men and angels will co-operate in the divine service as they did in the career of time.

There is much more located in the Urantia Book, but does not always associate the human and angels together because once the mortal enters into their ascendant career, the seraphim becomes the dominant factor, where they are conjoined with the mortal in that career and can share in one's destiny along that path.  

You may also perform a search on "Angelic Host(s)", however the word "hosts" has two meanings in the UB. 
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Re: How the Seraphim work on and influence personality relationships...
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2016, 05:32:45 PM »
Those references definitely helped! Thanks, Midi.


I read a commentary somewhere explaining how Seraphims work on and influence the relationships between personalities. Does anyone have UB references I can read on this? Thanks.
BB, the Urantia Book goes into much detail when it references angels and seraphim (plural of seraph) and it also follows the normal definitions understood as well as expanding on these definitions.  The one section which may expand on your query may be paper 113 section seven ("7. Seraphim and the Ascendant Career"), where it specifies, in 113:7.2 "... attending seraphim (there are two of them) are your open companions"; but in this section it refers to seraphim associated to the individual on the "morontia spheres", where further on into this section, implies that these seraphim are associated to the mortal of time, human on Urantia, as well but their function is slightly different than on the morontia worlds.  It has been noted on this forum that these seraphim stand next to a person but this would indicate one of the "seraph's" where the other can be considered as the humans material binding unit and to some degree a persons alter-conscious.  By this I would refer one to their conscious mind where for everyone, to some degree, is aware that your consciousness seems to be a duality, where in essence you can have a conversation with your self and it feels like there are two of you. The same UB quotes referenced above refers to this as your "consort".
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(1248.2) 113:7.2 On the morontia spheres the attending seraphim (there are two of them) are your open companions. These angels not only consort with you as you progress through the career of the transition worlds, in every way possible assisting you in the acquirement of morontia and spirit status, but they also avail themselves of the opportunity to advance by study in the extension schools for evolutionary seraphim maintained on the mansion worlds.
It has also been suggested that these angels are in some form "midwayers", but this has been refuted in the Urantia Book as not true, as mentioned in "77:9.1-2" & "77:8.4".
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(865.7) 77:9.1 Midwayers may be regarded as the first group of the permanent inhabitants to be found on the various orders of worlds throughout the universes in contrast with evolutionary ascenders like the mortal creatures and the angelic hosts. Such permanent citizens are encountered at various points in the Paradise ascent.

(866.1) 77:9.2 Unlike the various orders of celestial beings who are assigned to minister on a planet, the midwayers live on an inhabited world. The seraphim come and go, but the midway creatures remain and will remain, albeit they are nonetheless ministers for being natives of the planet, and they provide the one continuing regime which harmonizes and connects the changing administrations of the seraphic hosts.

(864.5) 77:8.4 Midwayers are not men, neither are they angels, but secondary midwayers are, in nature, nearer man than angel; they are, in a way, of your races and are, therefore, very understanding and sympathetic in their contact with human beings; they are invaluable to the seraphim in their work for and with the various races of mankind, and both orders are indispensable to the seraphim who serve as personal guardians to mortals.
It can also be considered that at the end of a mortals life in the flesh, it takes two angels, (Seraph's) to prepare the essence of your physical form to travel to the mansion world.  However, this does not mean that there are not other seraphim who are independent from association with humans.

The other notations in paper 113, section seven, which indicate that these angels are associated to humans are implied within the grammar in their narration.
I.E.:
Quote
(1248.6) 113:7.6 Man and angel may or may not be reunited in eternal service, but wherever seraphic assignment may take them, the seraphim are always in communication with their former wards of the evolutionary worlds, the ascendant mortals of time. The intimate associations and the affectionate attachments of the realms of human origin are never forgotten nor ever completely severed. In the eternal ages men and angels will co-operate in the divine service as they did in the career of time.

There is much more located in the Urantia Book, but does not always associate the human and angels together because once the mortal enters into their ascendant career, the seraphim becomes the dominant factor, where they are conjoined with the mortal in that career and can share in one's destiny along that path. 

You may also perform a search on "Angelic Host(s)", however the word "hosts" has two meanings in the UB.
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