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@RonB, I'm rather fond of living a nomadic existence and prefer moving about. Put me in Timbuktu and I'll be just as content as I am now. Wendy
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Threads for New Transmissions / Taking the High Road
« Last post by Lemuel on Today at 01:24:26 PM »
Speaker: Thought Adjuster
Subject: Taking the High Road
T/R: Lemuel
Girona, Catalunya, Spain.
18th Feb. 2018  18:00 Local

My subject this evening refers to the choices that one must take, at some time or another, that
will reflect your ability to decern one from the other.
As you go through life, you actually live your choices from moment to moment.
It is not very often that you are called upon to make, what can be, a life or death decision but 
nevertheless, the decisions that you make today can have a lifelong effect.
How can you learn to always make the right choice?

So many people, unfortunately, prefer to seek others who will make their choices for them.
Those who have such a low self - esteem that they cannot do it for themselves. There has always
been those who are down-trodden and put upon by others, even by members of their own family,
as I am sure you are aware of, perhaps even in your own. There are always those who take the
greatest pleasure in making one feel so small and insignificant. Some parents even control their
children this way and these children grow up feeling lost in an alien world.

For the most of you, who have enjoyed your own ability to chose, by the time you are an adult,
you would have already made many choices, some of which perhaps, you later regretted.
Much later in life, when you look back over the years, you will be able to see the effect of those
choices and how your life has played out because of them.

Those of you, especially here on the forum, will recognize those moments in your life when the
choice before you seemed to resolve itself and you knew instinctively that it was right.
Why is that do you suppose? Why is it that sometimes the decision seems to be made for you?
Why can´t all your decisions be resolved this way?

You will come to realize if you do not already, that almost all your self-made choices were not that
important anyway. Although at the time, especially when one is young, everything seems so vital
and important and yet they never are. But it is only the wisdom that maturity brings to be able to
recognize that fact.

Taking the High road refers to those choices that seemed to be made for you but you chose to
go along with them anyway and That, my dear friends is the crux of the matter.
Those times in your life when your Thought Adjuster had sufficient influence on your feelings
that you were able to accept the choice made for you with open arms, so to speak.

It is Always your Beloved that points to the High road but it is always up to you to take it or not.
What I may refer to as the low road is broad and wide and it doesn´t really matter how you travel.
Although as stated above, you may think something to be so important that you cannot make up
your mind and why is that really?  There are times when your ego simply cannot cope.
Generally, it thinks it can do anything and everything but sometimes even ego has to throw in the
towel and you are left floundering around not knowing what to do.

Isn´t it wonderful when your Thought Adjuster steps in and waves His magic wand, so to speak?
Ah yes, but you all know for that to happen you must ask and go into silence and await the answer.
All of you members here on the forum have taken the High road to where you now find yourselves.
Some of you are well into your seventies and very used to traveling the High road. Others are 
younger but the journey for them is already marked out if they continue to head in the pointed
direction.

Young or old it matters not but what does matter is that the journey along the High road should be
a joyous one with a lightness of heart and eager anticipation as to what you will discover next.

I thank you for reading. Good evening.

Domtia









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TRANSLATIONS / Re: Wiadomoci po polsku (Posts in Polish)
« Last post by Andre_P on Today at 12:26:16 PM »
Ta sama wiadomość po angielsku :
http://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=10042.msg65138#msg65138
Przekazał : Lemuel, członek-bohater
Kategoria / Temat : Miejsce na nowe przekazy / MISJA MAGISTERSKA
« 17 lutego 2018, godz. 02:56:18 »

Mówca : OCILLIAYA
Temat : Misja Magisterska
Przekazujący : Lemuel
Girona, Katalonia, Hiszpania.
17 lut. 2018

OCILLIAYA , DUCH NADRZĘDNY nr 4
Przychodzę dziś rano z wiadomością dla wszystkich członków forum : poświęćcie wasz czas, proszę, próbując przyswoić sobie wszystkie informacje nadchodzące każdego dnia.
Kładziemy teraz nacisk na to, aby przekazać wam wszystkim informacje udostępniane przez DUCHA po to, żeby was jak najlepiej przygotować do stawienia czoła najbliższym licznym wyzwaniom.
Ci z was, którzy są członkami od lat, zostaną poinformowani i przyzwyczajeni do tego, że nadchodząca Misja Magisterska przyniesie z sobą zmiany, które dotkną każdego mężczyznę, kobietę i dziecko na planecie.

Aby dokonać zmian koniecznych do uratuwania Urantii z jej straszliwej niedoli i poprowadzić ją do pierwszych etapów Światła i Życia potrzeba nie tylko wielu lat, ale również pomocy i wsparcia ze strony każdego z was. To będzie długie i żmudne zadanie i zostaniecie wezwani do zajęcia się sytuacjami wyjątkowymi, jakich nie widzieliście i nie możecie sobie wyobrazić. Właśnie dlatego przez te kilka lat informowaliśmy was i przygotowywaliśmy do tego, o czym wiemy, że nadejdzie.

Obecna globalna sytuacja polityczna jest taka, że w każdej chwili świat może zostać wciągnięty w rodzaj wojny, z powodu której konieczne będzie ewakuowanie was wszystkich. To da się zrobić, ale nie jest to scenariusz, który chcemy zobaczyć my, ani ktokolwiek inny, ale istnieje taka możliwość. Na przestrzeni wieków ta najpiękniejsza z planet ucierpiała tak bardzo, znacznie ponad normę dla rozwijających się planet, co łamie nasze serca, tak, moje dzieci, łamie nasze serce patrząc, jak musiała klęknąć na kolana wołająć o pomoc.

Musicie spróbować zrozumieć, że tak jak wy, ludzcy rodzice, my także jesteśmy rodzicami i także czujemy i cierpimy strzały wbijane w jej ciało. Jest intencją Ojca, aby ona nie cierpiała już więcej ani wy, jej ziemskie dzieci, od następstw ohydnego buntu. Jako rodzice pragniemy wziąć ją w ramiona i przytulić do piersi i tak zrobimy.

Od czasu ostatecznego obdarzenia przez Michała poszukiwano sposobów, by ją uratować i Misja Magisterska jest tutaj, aby to właśnie zrobić.
Misje Magisterskie są sposobami i środkami, dzięki którym można wyprowadzić planetę z buntu.
Serara i Mondżoronson, nasi Magisterscy Synowie, są bardzo doświadczeni i mają pomoc i wsparcie od Rajskich Istot. Troska i zainteresowanie tutejszą sytuacją na Urantii są takie, że zebrało się tu wiele milionów istot ze wszystkich stron wszechświata i dalszych stron, żeby być świadkami tego rozgromienia.

I tak, moje drogie dzieci, wiedząc, że macie wziąć udział w tym ogromnym przedsięwzięciu, powinienem wszczepić pragnienie w wasze serca, abyście zrobili wszystko, co jest w ludzkiej mocy, żęby pomóc uratować waszą piękną planetę, bo czyż nie jest ona piękna ?

Jakże błogosławieni jesteście wszyscy, że zostaliście doprowadzeni tutaj, na to wyjątkowe forum i staliście się odbiorcami takich rewelacji, które zdumiały nawet niektórych w Raju, że takie rzeczy zostały ujawnione zwykłym śmiertelnikom, a teraz macie nawet Wypełniacza Przeznaczenia Wszechświata, który wziął to na Siebie, nie tylko angażując się w Misję Magisterską, ale ujawniając te dotychczas nieznane fakty.

Wielu z was musiało podejmować bardzo trudne decyzje zdając sobie sprawę, że do pełnego uczestnictwa w Misji Magisterskiej wymagane jest zupełne zaangażowanie i tylko tak może być. Potrzebujemy was wszystkich, naszej armii lądowej silnej i wytrwałej, która się nie załamie na pierwszej napotkanej przeszkodzie. Doceniamy i rozumiemy problemy, z którymi wszyscy się spotykacie na co dzień, ale jednocześnie chcemy, żebyście sobie w pełni zdawali sprawę z możliwości, jakie przed wami stoją. Niezależnie od tego, czy zdecydujecie się zostać pełnoetatowym partnerem Niebiańskiej rodziny, czy kontynuować życie w swojej strefie komfortu, życie dla was wszystkich wkrótce się zmieni i nigdy już nie będzie takie samo. Dla żadnego z was nie ma odwrotu, tylko pełne parcie do przodu w nieznane. Jest to zarówno podniecające, jak i może przerażające dla niektórych z was, ale dostajecie wiedzę, której inni nie mają.

Wasi umiłowani Dostrajacze Myśli są słusznie zadowoleni ze współpracy, która pozwoliła Im doprowadzić was do tego rozdroża w waszym życiu i teraz pozostaje wam tylko kontynuować i pozwolić Mu prowadzić cię dalej twoją drogą wznoszenia.

Ufamy w was wszystkich, że potraficie podążać tam, dokąd prowadzą wasi Umiłowani i że Misja Magisterska z waszą pomocą nie tylko odniesie sukces, ale ostatecznie odda Urantię z powrotem w kochające ręce Ojca.

Dobrego dnia.

Domszia
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Issued February 18, 2017 as edited from a much longer document for presentation to the forum.

The URANTIA Foundation & Fellowship: Their Continuity


MICHAEL OF NEBADON
CONSUMMATOR OF UNIVERSE DESTINY
MARGUL, TRINITY TEACHER SON

York, Pa - Morning Local Time
February 17, 2018

This is MARGUL, TRINITY TEACHER SON

“Reforms are necessary to make the Urantia revelation sweet to the ears of millions and that the Urantia Foundation in Chicago and its supporting Fellowship,  have their own burdens to amend for too.  The Urantia Foundation is now a dead issue before the Supreme Court on Urantia and they will not hear the case unless forced to by the greater powers above us.

“We alert you to the fact that the Chief Justice of the Urantia Supreme Court is none other that the Magisterial Son, Serara; and the Court is co-chaired by Monjoronson and Margul and Michael  to determine what shall be done with institutions like the Urantia Foundation.  These and other institutions have so seriously defaulted they are considered almost enemies of our work. 


MICHAEL OF NEBADON -

“Ron is seriously persona non grata to the Urantia Foundation.  Its chief contender, Mo Seigle, makes error after error to contend with Ron Besser.  Seigle cannot understand the motivation that drives Ron and some of you, to declare the Urantia Foundation unhelpful and should be removed to get a clean start with other visible representatives on Urantia to guide the way with a newer revelation than the fifth epochal revelation.

“For this reason Besser must find a way to keep “a very low profile while we, the universe, go about snipping back the old Urantia Foundation and replacing it with our own institution, The Urantia Book Foundation.  We may even cut the word Book out of that corporations name and rename it the Urantia Foundation when the dust settles.

“Ron is fully capable of running the Urantia Book Foundation but he is not to be seen there except: for background work for the moment as his presence will inflame the Urantia Foundation in Chicago and there will be legal challenges galore over drastic changes.  Besser must not show himself as his is a red flag to those charging bulls.

“The Urantia Foundation at present will be upset with us over these changes to its nature and existence we feel sure.   But the future is to be without any such Chicago Foundation, and that is because we remove them completely and fully legally, and without the pretense that we made mistakes in allowing it to blossom as it now does.  It feels it is immune to time changes but does not realize that when it fails to work fully under its Declaration of Trust, they subject themselves to review and removal of the Declaration in accordance with the sacred laws of covenance between man and God to represent the revelations of epochal significance before the people of Urantia.


THE URANTIA BOOK FELLOWSHIP

MICHAEL OF NEBADON SPEAKS:
“Seldom do we have collusion among institutions as seriously flawed as this one is.  The Urantia Book Fellowship was a by product of the collision between the Urantia Foundation and the Brotherhood in the early 1980's, and while it was bitterly fought, neither the Urantia Foundation or the Brotherhood, had the guts to determine that a great wrong doing was afoot.  Ron has been adamant that the Brotherhood must be reestablished, and I now know why he feels so strongly, as it will offer the ideas of monastic devotion to the hard reality it must fight to help the sixth epochal revelation survive its initial tests of deliverance.

“Consequently, I too will insist on the Brotherhood to be made available at once and it will house the new Urantia Book Foundation in York as promised.

“The Urantia Book Fellowship will receive its marching orders shortly and will be disbanded accordingly and no one currently in its leadership positions will participate in the Brotherhood further.  Ron knows precisely the problems the Fellowship suffers and is sympathetic, but through weakness or stupidity, they have cast their lot with the Urantia Foundation and that is their death knell.

“It is accurately points out that the Urantia Book readership is fully supplied with independent thinkers and doers with that book and that we should not worry about what to do with readers who are suddenly leaderless by removing these two institutions.  I fully agree and will make no particular effort to help readers determine what they personally must do to shore up their religious views concerning the fifth epochal revelation and what to do with the SER.

“Completing this dissertation for all to read, I adjust my view according to Ron’s view, that he is not able and ready right now to do anything and will hold back on further discussions other than to confirm what is spoken to here today, on matters of the Fellowship or the Foundation for the next several weeks and to allow the leadership at the Urantia Foundation to decide how they will approach the end to their existence as any influence on the approach of the sixth epochal revelation.  In completing these statements we speak to the following:


MARGUL, TRINITY TEACHER SON

“In speaking to this decision to end the activities of the Fellowship and the Foundation as quickly and as legally as possible, we aver that we must remove our own self-created stumbling blocks to more fully prepare for a better epochal revelatory outreach.

FATHER - “We make an amendment to this by stating that the Consummator of Universe Destiny is far beyond our capacity to intervene with and we welcome Him on Paradise as he chooses.

[Note: Ron here.  I deleted a portion of the Consummator of Universe Justice (sic) speech where that Entity requests a further consultation with the Father of All.  There is still a lingering doubt about the CoUD or CoUJ in that we must understand that the Consummator does not represent a direct line of authority with the Father, but instead is counsel to the Father in someway analogous to the function of the Deity Absolute and its role in compossibility and the like ways of reviewing what is to become Universe Law.  I cannot state to emphatically that any idea any of you may have that the Consummator is a “boss” over Infinity must be relegated to an error of thinking.  The Consummator is charged by Himself to see to it that plans in space and time and Infinity are cohering to progress to a future destiny we just have no idea what it is right now. Ron]


The Father continues . . .
“He is not an entity Ron,  but a personal attribution of myself when he does appear on Paradise to counsel.  In all of your work for Me I ask you remember I am not set aside by the fiction you sometimes entertain that a grand Board of Fiction sits out of Infinity and plans steps I do not know about.  I know everything that issues from there and you need a lesson to determine how I work with the Consummator of Universe Destiny.  I do well with the Consummator and those of His ilk that lay outside of the area I have defined as Infinity and that Infinity is a place not but a supposition that all things cohere into one massive undertaking called reality.  Reality is by my definition at all times, and your view of it is excellent because you see it as plastic and visible when required but withheld if not necessary to see at any given time.  Be assured your chuckle at side comments your hear for or from Michael and the Eternal Son as well. Before we continue permit me to tell all that Ron actually impels spirit to go to places of discussion as the result of his understanding of the conceptual material we present and has to think it through as it is presented to him.  We allow this noisy anomaly of mind to wear us down now and then, because it is so helpful and Ron knows it is helpful and that it cements it into his deep mind where he has complete memory these days.


“I as the Father have a continuum relationship with the Consummator of Universe Destiny and the Consummator of Universe Justice which is one and the same entity.  But you must understand they are not part of the routine working of the Master Universe or of Paradise itself, and permission is granted for the Consummator of Universe Destiny and Justice to appear with me as counsel to my mind and in effect as my leader over the desire about how to run the affairs of direct representation of our Paradise Sons and their  appearance before what you call the public on Urantia.  I therefore decree we have established that with the Magisterial Sons and Jesus and others to be seen shortly, that none of you will know some of them and they will not be fully revealed to any of you who work inside the Staff positions now offered to you alone for now Ron.

END
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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Magisterial Mission
« Last post by Lemuel on Today at 11:57:52 AM »
Antonio,
               Allow me, if you would, to answer your questions.
Jesus was not referring to the drugs that the medical profession prescribes for their patients.
Whilst it is true that patients can become dependent on them they are not included in the list.
Jesus was only referring to the dealers in hard drugs which has had such a devastating effect on
young people for so long. As you are aware the hard drug industry, and it is an industry, is a
multi - billion dollar business.  This will come to an abrupt end.

Relax Antoni. You and all others will still be able to take your medication.

Lemuel
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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Magisterial Mission
« Last post by niant2 on Today at 11:14:28 AM »
??? :-\

My beloved brother Jesus, you told Lemuel and he wrote in this post:

“...Those who are addicted to drugs and those who deal with them will have a hard time finding them and will go through a cold turkey that they will not be able to support and will seek to end their lives.
 
So be it!...”.



Here are some questions for you Jesus, even if it may seem trivial questions for someone!!!

  “...Those who are addicted to drugs...”, thousands and thousands of people have to regularly take one or more medications (it's still a chemical drug) because of their health conditions and become addictive to their medications prescribed by their doctors.

People under medical orders, despite themselves, are they included in this statement?
(It's not if people are trying to destroy their health, their lives by consuming drugs sold freely on the street)

And:

  “...and those who deal with them...”,..., then in the same idea, it is the doctors who prescribe such drugs for people because of their health difficulties and pharmacists become suppliers.

So doctors and pharmacists are they includes in this statement?
(and yet it is obvious that they are not street drug dealer)

I know it sounds like stupid questions, but several people have become addicted to these famous drugs at the expense of their deteriorated health.

And:

  “...will have a hard time finding them and will go through a cold turkey that they will not be able to support and will seek to end their lives. So be it!...”.

People under medical orders, despite themselves, are they included in this statement?   :o ::)
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Your question Sue is explained and answered this way:

Image perception as you speak to it is not Mother Spirit but thought Adjuster work clearing you brain of essential information you no longer will use.

Your Adjuster speaks: "We cleared a portion of your brain stem having to do with the immolation of yourself with your relationships between you and your soon to be ex-husband, between you and your in-laws, and with Ron, who can distrust but find so engaging you listen anyhow.  Why should we do this?

"You and Wendy are being considered (no yet assigned to) to run an outreach office in Australia as long as we can afford to keep anyone there when things get really bad for the Australia and your personal lives.  Wendy prefers New Zealand life over Australia, but that might be afforded to her more than she knows at this point.  Be assured all of you that we are still making plans for your uses in Australia with Ding Xin and others who have spoken up but we have not been forthright about uses to thsi point.  Be assured we fight no one this morning over these issues but perhaps you Sue can state better than anyuone your state of mind to take such an assignment on by yourself for awhile?  Let us hear from you please on this issue alone.  I am your Thought Adjuster being translated to Ron through Mother Spirit and he does so well I will use him often to clear mysteris with you my dear Ward,  Thank you,  Your Thought Adjuster."

END

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NovaPrime - You do so well feeling intutively the stakes we play with to get well again. But first let me comment on your post.

Your write:
"What is the part of the Consummator in the manifestation of the pre-personal Mystery Monitors in humans..??
I'm impressed by my ability to understand, or at least to follow up closely, the matters and subjects revealed here but.. Is that quality of understanding mine only or should I say it is more imparted and willed by the Adjuster..??"



 I answer fairly simply.  The Consummator of Universe Justice has bigger fish to fry then taking on the tiny aspect of a tiny creation called humanity.  That does not mean he tosses us off.  Not at all. for the Consummator does care care very much that our order of creations finds its place in the grand scheme of things, but he does not personally involved Himself with how our destinies are administrated and surveyed for future use in a future universe.  He sees us from the tippy top down, and is concerned that the Father of All gets the information He needs to prevail.  Yes Prevail!!  Now how does that show you His interest in Urantia today?  So far the Father has not prevailed!  The Bible thumpers are a terrible impediment to progress for the very thing they say they want and then go about it with such hamfisted determination we see their devastation coming too!



THE CONSUMMATOR OF UNIVERSE DESTINY AND JUSTICE (If you do not mind that either)


"I am using this forum for myself now and not for any justice or precision of philosophy, but you NovaPrime hit the nail on the head as Ron calls it by becoming a true sycophant of the House that Jack built by releasing a post Ron cannot let go by without speaking to my view of the Master Universe as it happens to be a Grand Universe right now being only time and space universes in totality at this point.   We write this unstable yet as the morning is not kind to ron at the moment and he understands the problem quite well, but you NovaPrime exert considerable influence over Ron and his thinking patterns because you question them and you should.  Ron has your interests at heart but sees no point to realizing that others see things differently in these important issues of who is who.


"At best we learn that Ron hears the voice of the Consummator of Universe Justice now and finds it harsh and unkind but workable.  He also dislikes people who say one thing and do another and no one on this forum does that worse than a few of you who know each other as that kind of person.  Besides this not an answer to all of you but to Ron to stop interfering with a process I prefer to let run without comment so you can learn at the knee of an individual who understands most everything there is to understand and then says nothing to clear certain fears Ron gets over using anyone to explain anything since he has no particular view of censorship except to keep the peace.  Now that is worthy of a transmit all on its own, but NovaPrime you must realize you can never be Ron or vice versa as you are both set on a course that leaves us wondering what in the world do we do with individuals like yourselves who are being so well educated in universe ways that you cannot see the humanity beneath you compromised to the point of death.  I am also confused how Ron mitigates problems by shoveling them into a bay like a coal hopper and then removes them by fiat as unnecessary to his need to keep things on the up and up for all of you not to have to deal with arguments about what ever you think of at the time.


"I am now Michael of Nebadon, and Ron shows no objection to being pulled before you in a harsh light because he also understands that nothing works without leadership and leadership sometimes has to be arbitrary to keep things flowing progressively.  The Consummator of Universe Destiny is both Michael, and the Father of All, and the Circle of Infinity and is a breast plate much like Megatron used to be before we retired that name so Ron did not always confuse Him with Majeston, the Reflectivity King of All things reflected back to high Deity when they need to know for sure who is doing what.



"I hold all of you well enough to point out that all of this deep blue is because the software does not work well when it is asked to something different, but Ron compromised enough not to hold me up speaking to you and writes in deep blue.  In any case the use of the time this morning is to press you all for one quick understanding:  The Consummator of Universe Destiny is not leaving as He told Ron this morning that Urantia is now a test case about how to make the Father PREVAIL!  How do we do that?


"NovaPrime seems to think it is Bible thumpers at fault who are so self satisfied they destroy Urantia Books when they find them and tear down the walls of the Easter Germans because Regan believed fully in the Holy Ghost of retribution and still prevailed in spite of the Host of Angels who were afraid tearing down the wall would result in world war III.  It did not and Regan is smiled about today for that work and we now sight the Universe Destiny Master, the Consummator for one last speech on this matter before he leaves briefly to determine why Paradise is so hush hush on certain matters of State that Ron feels are left unattended to settle forthrightly:" (Michael)


CONSUMMATOR OF UNIVERSE DESTINY AND JUSTICE SPEAKS DIRECTLY:
"I speak this directly through Ron who does not mind constructive criticism and wants to learn how to correct his faults too.  He works hard to maintain this forum but sees it lasting very little more for several reasons:


1 - The forum is be-leagued by people who prefer to sit back and just read their futures.  That is understood but it is self defeating and he is aware Deity dislikes static encounters that get perpetuated by people who do not bother to think at all on such matters as to what they do that is detrimental to themselves.



2 - We also realize that Ron is so paralyzed with mishaps to him that we caused we now must make amends and throw him off the horse we hold him to and release him from the pain that has caused so much angst with Michael of Nebadon and the rest of the universe and it is amended slowly as it is a slow process to get a wrong corrected from this side of existence.  This is not meant to make you feel sorry but meant to make you understand there is not much left in the mind of Ron to move things in mightily ways again as we are in charge of that youngster now and he obeys quite frequently and well and fights the personal insults he gets from none other than the Urantia spirit adminsitration who thinks he should be dismissed immediately and be removed from their sight--  I am referring not to Machiventa Melchizedek but the Urantia Foundation which is out to make mischief out of Ron who a warning shot over their bows two days ago and got them hopping mad.  You need to understand that Ron is no shrinking violet and he means what he says to them: 'You are doomed because you are a bunch of piss ants who do not know what you are doing.'  They bitterly resent them and we understand why as Ron does but listen to this:


"Two nights ago Ron received an email from the broadcasting arm of the Urantia Foundation.  In that email they ballyhooed that Jesus was to be studied from the perspective of his last morontial visit to his Apostles before he went on to his work in High.  We note the capitalization is our request to use this time, and that is because High refers to the Father Himself, and Ron never fails to provide capitals when referring anything to the Father's attention.  He decided to respond to the notice forthrightly and transmitted Jesus to them to warn them that jesus was not just an object of study, but that he was also returning quite soon and we affirm that here.


"When they received the transmission from Ron that night, they saw it first as a hoax, but then saw the Universal Father tag the email with a complimentary message of the same affirming Jesus was returning quite soon, and the Chief, most a Mo Seigle type, flew into a rage!  The rage was over the effrontery of Ron to use a simple email announcement to claim the Second Return and how dare he use it just when they were ready to go on the air with the pampered spokesman declaring all was well and that the time of renunciation of social values of sex and murder was under control by Thought Adjusters!



"I make this statement to revise your thinking:  no one has a Thought Adjuster strong enough to stop a murderous mistake!  Thought Adjuster countervail evil as reasoning and thought and Ron uses his Adjuster precisely that way and has saved himself much misery by brininging its advice into reality by doing what he should be doing and nothing else more.  In fact the Urantia Foundation has made it clear that Ron Besser is an anathema in its broadcasts with Derek S. and finds that young man a truant beyond redemption, yet they favor his work since he is radically disposed to Ron for no good reason other than he repudiates a friendship that made Derek uncomfortable for some reason.  In any case we see the trial of the Urantia Foundation point up by the very fact they were fully informed of the Return of Jesus properly and fully and without fanfare.  What happens next is anyone's guess, but Seigle likes legal action and looks for way to bring Ron down under a court order to do something about how bad Ron makes Seigle feel.



3 - This forum will last as long as it can.  It will last only as long as the right conditions exist for it to appear and then fall beneath the waves of idolatry and harsh reprisals of contending forces in the world for and against God.  You all know that the last word in the Urantia Book  is "GOD."  It really ends with the phase: '. . . human concept of God." and that we appreciate Ron as it leads me right to the idea that you are not the one we want to represent God, but you do so well we are not against using you to be with and be seen with Jesus in his rallies and talks before the public on radio, film, and/or television as the case may be.  For this reason Ron has held back a ten page transmission on how this may be afforded and we allow that it should be held back for now.  However it also needs released so Larry and Lemuel know their standing with what is to be done with the work of Jesus too by themselves.



4) This forum is taking its toll on the Urantia Foundation, for the Urantia Foundation finds its use of hyperbole as harsh and cruel at times, but also realizes it is Ron's work to make people HEAR God for a change and not their own worth and charges for the future as they see it.    I am the Consummator of Universe Justice too when I have to be and I suspect that MARGUL has a word or two now for all of you."



MARGUL, TRINITY TEACHER SON.
"I am Margul, and I am delighted we have a good morning after all since Ron is downfallen with crash after crash of plans to save this site he cannot get traction with anyone to make it clear they can do a mirror of this site without killing the bank account by merely replicating it under another domain name.  Ron asked if that was possible but got no satisfaction getting a good answer.  In any case Rom, this site will go down only if Michael lets it go and he may do that to keep it quiet during an extensive use of the broom to clear things away.


"You Ron have no idea how your humor permeates our responses to all of you since most of you who read these passages hear the humor bubble up once in awhile  and the CoUD is not subject to humor but sees how well it works in the dreadful climate of claim and counter claim by news media and the like.  You Ron find this so deleterious you hardly watch the talking heads without being angry at how short sighted they have become and rue the day they are shut down permanently since it takes your Magisterial mind exhibition without exercise further. 



"As a Trinity Teacher Son of some repute, the hour is striking for an end to the false and the huberous of a Donald Trump for sure.  The work of this site has been important and reminds us all that when something is done right it works, and the scoundrel called Michel Levasseur and his minions on a site he constructed to parallel this one must be taken down soon just for the simple reason it harbors the worst of the worst when it comes to Magisterial support and what they need from humanity to help them become fully recognized.  Jesus has no real purpose either other than to use his fame and mystery to attach to the Magisterial Mission itself and Ron just breathed that under his breath as we write this,  I extend one further kudo to all of you:


"You NovaPrime sparked quite a debate up here this morning with your post because Ron saw it quite important enough to interrupt his normal morning cursing at the world.  I take it we have mostly answered your concerns but Ron is quite sure some of you are slightly askew on the Conusmmator of Universe Destiny and now justice and we recommend you read that Glossary well as it is the best definition I have ever read of who the Consummator of Universe Destiny is and does."


MICHAEL OF NEBADON -

"I am encouraging Ron to edit a very long transmit yesterday on the Urantia Foundation and post it.  We need that information out and understood.   I leave it to Ron to figure out how to get that in today.  Thank you. Michael of Nebadon."


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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: TRUTH
« Last post by prozonov on Today at 08:55:06 AM »
По русски
Дорогие друзья!
Накануне великих перемен мне бы хотелось рассказать вам об удивительном эксперименте в истории Урантии, который называется - Союз Советских Социалистических Республик. (СССР).
О моей стране Вам всегда говорили неправду!
Либеральная, буржуазная, капиталистическая идеология всегда боролась с советской Россией. Почему? Потому, что провозглашенные в России основы жизни (теоретически совпадающие с семью принципами социальной устойчивости) противоречили основам западного миропорядка.
В России – раньше думай о Родине – а потом о себе. (А Родина – это тоже Божество!)
На Западе (в Европе и Америке) смысл жизни – доллар, накопление, обман, нажива… (И это тоже бог – золотой телец).
Далее.
Будет один народ на Урантии – свободные, одухотворенные люди под водительством Настройщика и Отца Небесного.
Но такой опыт на Урантии уже был. 50 лет назад в СССР было заявлено о новой исторической общности людей – советский народ. В стране, где проживало более 150 народностей и национальностей практически существовало равноправие в социальной жизни. Межнациональных, мерассовых конфликтов не существовало. Проблемы были, но местного, националистического, коррупционного характера. 300 миллионов людей по большому счету были счастливы и верили в завтрашний день.
Уничтожение СССР – величайшая трагедия в истории планеты. В бывших союзных республиках националистические «божки» создали феодальные нищенские псевдо государства, процветающие только на русофобии.
Опыт в построении будущего планеты на примере СССР надо изучать и использовать.
Для этого на планете должны быть уничтожены носители эпохального зла: богоборцы, человеконенавистники, убийцы и насильники, жрецы золотого тельца…
Не напрасно говорили мудрецы: чтобы сделать шаг вперед, сначала надо сделать два шага назад…
В добрый путь!
Александр prozonov.
 
Перевод Гугл
Dear friends!
On the eve of the great changes, I would like to tell you about an amazing experiment in the history of Urantia, which is called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. (THE USSR).
You have always been told a lie about my country!
The liberal, bourgeois, capitalist ideology has always fought against Soviet Russia. Why? Because the principles of life proclaimed in Russia (theoretically coinciding with the seven principles of social stability) contradicted the foundations of the Western world order.
In Russia, think about your Motherland before, and then about yourself. (And the Motherland is also a deity!)
In the West (in Europe and America), the meaning of life is the dollar, accumulation, deception, profit ... (And this, too, is the golden calf).
Further.
There will be one people on Urantia - free, spiritualized people under the guidance of the Adjuster and the Heavenly Father.
But such an experience on Urantia already existed. 50 years ago in the USSR, a new historical community of people was declared - the Soviet people. In a country where more than 150 nationalities and nationalities lived, there was practically equality in social life. There were no interethnic conflicts. The problems were, but local, nationalistic, corrupt. 300 million people by and large were happy and believed in tomorrow.
Destruction of the USSR is the greatest tragedy in the history of the planet. In the former union republics, the nationalist "gods" created feudal, beggarly pseudo-states, thriving only on Russophobia.
Experience in building a future planet on the example of the USSR should be studied and used.
For this, the carriers of epochal evil must be destroyed on the planet: the God-fighters, misanthropic people, murderers and rapists, the priests of the golden calf ...
The wise men did not say in vain: to make a step forward, first we must take two steps back ...
Good luck!
Alexander prozonov.
 
Перевод Яндекс
Dear friends!
On the eve of the great changes, I would like to tell you about an amazing experiment in the history of Urantia, which is called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. (THE USSR).
You have always been told a lie about my country!
The liberal, bourgeois, capitalist ideology has always fought against Soviet Russia. Why? Because the principles of life proclaimed in Russia (theoretically coinciding with the seven principles of social stability) contradicted the foundations of the Western world order.
In Russia, think about your Motherland before, and then about yourself. (And the Motherland is also a deity!)
In the West (in Europe and America), the meaning of life is the dollar, accumulation, deception, profit ... (And this, too, is the golden calf).
Further.
There will be one people on Urantia - free, spiritualized people under the guidance of the Adjuster and the Heavenly Father.
But such an experience on Urantia already existed. 50 years ago in the USSR, a new historical community of people was declared - the Soviet people. In a country where more than 150 nationalities and nationalities lived, there was practically equality in social life. There were no interethnic conflicts. The problems were, but local, nationalistic, corrupt. 300 million people by and large were happy and believed in tomorrow.
Destruction of the USSR is the greatest tragedy in the history of the planet. In the former union republics, the nationalist "gods" created feudal, beggarly pseudo-states, thriving only on Russophobia.
Experience in building a future planet on the example of the USSR should be studied and used.
For this, the carriers of epochal evil must be destroyed on the planet: the God-fighters, misanthropic people, murderers and rapists, the priests of the golden calf ...
The wise men did not say in vain: to make a step forward, first we must take two steps back ...
Good luck!

Alexander prozonov.
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Dear Ron Besser and any others who may help with the following question:

Do you know if Mother Spirit is working with some of us in image perception, that is, clairvoyant work?

To give you some background, last night as I slept, I had two things happen to me and this could be interpreted on different layers of meaning.

This first thing was as I heard someone or persons was banging violently outside on the front door and yelling to “open the door!” And I was inside hearing it and that, although it scared me, it got my attention. Then next this.

The second thing that happened was what appeared to be a screen before my eyes. At first, there was this fog that smothered the images on the screen. Slowly as I tried to concentrate, the fog gradually faded away and the images on the screen was getting clearer to see but it appeared to move so fast I could not make out what it was trying to convey.

The next thing I knew was that this is some sort of morontial input in my mind and I was sensing Mother Spirit in it and we communed about this. I felt this is a development Mother is working on and I assured her that it worked only that I didn’t get what was on the screen, although it is an improvement from previous attempts.

The other thing too was that I became aware that I was lying on my back breathing heavily and I turned on my side so as to breathe better than on my back and that is the last of the occurrence as I drifted off to a peaceful snooze.

As discussed in a recent private email with Ron,  regarding the subject of who and what is Valentine, martyrdom as St.Valentine (see link below)  and others suffered during the Roman persecution of the early Christians, it is one thing we are doing now in our lives here in Jack’s House and yet, we know that after this period will be the service-to-men activity. After the long post on those devastating earth changes(see above in this thread) and how many lives may not make it or survive on the earth, I think it is going to be truly more harsh on a lot of us. At least the martyrdom thing gets put in the dustbin of history and we can move on to either serve here on the planet (if some of us survive it here) or move on to the Mansion Worlds to get on with our careers and what our Father has in store for us.

I thank Michael of Nebadon and the Consummator of Universe Destiny the benefit of the knowledge given in allowing us to be prepared for the worst. If anything, it is for us to take stock of ourselves, the earthly life and for what is so soon to end and to be ready for our eternal adventure. So few of us will make it here and I pray that those who do may be kept safe and well through the changes coming and Wow it will get rather busy upstairs Michael! I can see some of us members may be useful there too :)

Link about St Valentine:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Valentine

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