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Flurry Number 16 - Advanced Info on ULTIMATONS and metals and more
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Vol III. Number 1 - January 12, 2014
Derived from Transmissions from
Urantia, Salvington, and Peripheral PARADISE
Originally Posted to Serara.Org Discussion Form
January 12, 2014
2100 EST USA
From the Discussion List at
Subject: Basic Ultimatonic Data
Johnny S asks the following questions to which we will have Monjoronson respond in the text

Johnny S: As we found in our Local Universe:
There are 100 different types of Ultimatons, each have unique characteristics and capacity (God´s
Will) to know with whom they associate to form many different forms of electronic matter (Electron,
Proton ....)
Of these 100 ultimatons, 22 are bosons (photon, Graviton, Gluon, Higgs A, Boson B, Hadron,
Meson, Higgs Boson, Fermion ......)? . . .
Question A: Are the other 78 ultimatons . . . in other types of classifications?
Answer - The other 78 break down with the 22 bosons as follows:
22 are Bosons
17 are Leptons
54 are Electrons
19 are Ferrions
The total number of sub-particles is actually 112, and they are all made up of Ultimatons.
Of the 112 sub-particles only 8 are really Leptons and only 15 are only Ferrions
When subtracting out the odd non-Ferrions and the unusual Leptons we are left with 99 kinds of subparticles.
Where then is the 100th sub-particle that defines the use of all 100 Ultimatons?
The answer lies in the God-centered use of Ultimatons on Paradise. Paradise has only 100 different
kinds of Ultimatons but carries one less type because the 100th Ultimaton sub-particle creation is not
available in the time-space universes.
We also wish to notify the reader that the odd behavior of certain Leptons and Ferrions is due to the
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presence of the Unqualified Absolute within the rods. Normal behavior as Urantia scientists know
them is due to the fact that the Unqualified Absolute (God’s will) does not direct Ultimatons with
only two blue rods.
Question B.
What are the names of all the sub-particles in our Local Universe?
Answer: (Monjoronson) We are not permitted to tell you the list of 99 sub-particles that exist in
Nebadon. (Remember the 100th type sub-particle is found only on Paradise as Absolutum) We have
given you the classification of the families (Leptons, Electrons, and so on), but the particular kind
of sub-particle is not even fully classified on Uversa much less in our local universe.
In other words, some types of sub-particles are not used in normal space in the local universe, so they
are not revealed. We have to leave it at that.
Question C. How are [Ultimatons] classified and why? (Eg, speed, axis tilt ...).
Answer: (still Monjoronson throughout these answers)
1 - Tilt
2 - Revolutionary Speed
3 - Height of Temperature Expansiveness (how high can they be heated)
4 - Merge Rate (how quickly they can be moved to make a sub-particle)
5 - Determination of Length of Ultimaton (some are longer than others)
6 - Rods and their numbers inside
7 - Types of Bases: Do they have a Beauty Base or a Boson Base? and what is their attendant base
stability?(Explanation: A Beauty Base is a base that has no reliable self definition and is displayed
on our oscilloscopes as a splash of rose or a splash of pale blue, depending on their rod status. A
Boson Base is determined by their density and their weight according to the plasma definition used
within the inside rods.)
8 - Case Extension Type (Not all Ultimatons are case enclosed although all are protected by the heat
shield attached when they enter time-space. We call cases that are open “extended”; cases that are
closed are simplified by name and are called “Closed”)
9 - Thoroughly Closed
10- Fairly Open
(These last classifications on this list are also classified as being thoroughly closed or fairly open
which are sub classifications we will not get into further).
Question D: The electronics matter is the result of the association of various types of ultimatons, A.
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In our local universe the minimum is 50 and the maximum is 100,000, or less?
Answer: The minimum number of sub-particles in a superuniverse is 50
Answer: The maximum number of sub-particles in the Grand Universe is 350
Answer: The maximum number of sub-particles in the Master Universe is not revealed but believed
to be about 10,000.
Question E: For our local universe the maximum number of associated ultimatons is already
Answer: Yes. And that number is actually 99 and not 100 as explained above.
Question F: Generally [there] are 10 variations of the electron. [These are assumed to be of] the same
type of ultimaton . . . . What is the name of this ultimaton?
Answer: It has no general name in the local universe. On Paradise it is called Absolutum (see the
Urantia Book for its description)
Question G: Does this Ultimaton . . . [associate] with any of the bosons?.
Answer: No. Electrons are Electrons and they do not associate with anything but atoms that need
Question H: . Is the minimum amount of ultimatons in an electron . . . 100 Ultimatons (Lepton) and
the maximum is 110 Ultimatons?
Answer: There are a total of 50 types of electrons. Electrons vary in weight from 100 kwmv (kilowatt
micro volts) to 5,000 kwmv. That means there are from 50 Ultimatons in one electron (an
electron you have not discovered) to 1,000 Ultimatons in an electron your science calls Mega
Electrons or Heavy Water Electrons in Deuterium.
Johnny S: now provides a list of matter he speculates about and Monjoronson replies:
Monjoronson: see Question A which discusses what you are trying to state below. Numbers are
correct in the response to Question A) and we do not have time to show you why you are incorrect
in the lists below.
[Ron: Johnny S. provides more of a list that is primarily a tally of his own thinking and we have
deleted it to maintain clarity (Ron: See the original post to see Johnny’s list. We remove it here
because it can confuse a reader with suppositions incorrectly stated.)
Note for Readers and to me (Ron) to distribute this material per his request below.
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Monjoronson: We have concluded our work for you today, Ron. We see there is avid interest in this
entire subject of the Ultimaton. We therefore respectfully request that all material interests in this
subject be played over the internet in your BCC List as Q and A and sent out to them. We are unable
to determine who is listening to these Q&A sessions, but we suspect we are being followed avidly
by foreign nationals and even American interests. We wish to make this material available to all and
invite ALL interests including Governments and Science Foundations to respond to the Q&A with
their own Questions. They will be answered.
The Prince of Peace
Michael of Nebadon
The Prince of Mercy
Monjoronson, Urantia’s Magisterial Son
January 08, 2014
2100 EST USA
From the Discussion List at
Welmek: Chief of Educational Literature and Philosophy, Urantia Magisterial Mission
Subject: Rapier Sonics
Space is folded and if you know how to use the folds you can make great speed to your destination.
Humans can not make use of the folds unless they know how to fold their ships with skins of light
known as rapier sonics. New term here "rapier sonics". Rapier sonics are treble-type ultimatons that
can be painted on a ship's skin and pass through orbits of electrons that bathe the folds of space.
Without rapier sonics the ship meets obstacles of transportation known as sonic belts which prevent
further penetration of that particular area of space.
Treble-type Ultimatons are transportation-type Ultimatons. You recall there are 100 kinds of
Ultimatons? One kind is the type Rayson speaks to and is used for energy development. The
Treble-type Ultimaton is larger than Energy-type Ultimatons, and when differentiated between the
other types, is also much heaver than the energy-type described in Ron's papers. Energy-type
Ultimatons have two rods, some one rod, others three rods, but none anywhere in the universe have
four rods except those in the 4th outer space level where they do the work of energy dynamos.
Energy dynamos are without heat or light and they spend their time in floating brigades of
heart-shaped bosons. Heart-shaped bosons travel in a straight line and carry none other than forty
thousand Ultimatons in liaison with other types of sub-particle energy - this happens only in the
fourth outer space level.
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Seraphim are spirit beings and therefore they pass through atomic and sub-atomic particles with ease.
Morontia beings also can do this but not as well as spirit beings. Ron has correctly correlated the
fact that when he is visited with Midwayers that they do not enter the room he is sitting in unless
they need to. They can see Ron by looking through the folds of space they know about and are
established around Ron's home and can converse with him and manipulate the environment if they
needed to from a space point some thousands of miles distant from him but still on Urantia.
January 08, 2014
1930 EST USA
From Ocilliaya, Master Spirit Four
Subject: Ultimatons and Urantia’s Unloving Pose Forbids Early Use
I am Master Spirit Ocilliaya [Master Spirit Number Four, Superuniverse Number Four called
Lanterton]. I am the Voice of the Father-Son union and am the heart of the universe of love and
goodness. The heart of the matter about this thread and this post is that [there is] less than 8 percent
of the universe . . . devoted to science. Yet, on Urantia, the devotion to science is over 80 percent
with the attendant distortions and loss of sanity about what they say and what they predict.
I predict that in seven years from today that all of Urantia will have heard of me, and that all of
Urantia will be wondering just how they have gotten into the fix that they can not free energy
because they do not know enough to use free energy.
Your corporations are finding themselves in a deep bind because energy demands are far ahead of
the need of the people who use the energy. In this I, Ocilliaya, will let them be in their misery for
a few more moments before the second Urantia Book becomes available. Then I will release the
information required to portray The Father and The Son Union as a genuine help to science. So very
few on Urantia do not understand that Ultimatons are a universe secret and that they must be treated
as such or we will withdraw the possibilities for them to be used and let them remain fallow until
an era of science appears on Urantia that CAN use them without benefit to clergy and Wall Street.
Our hearts bleed for Urantia. Ultimatons find no heart on Urantia large enough to fold them as they
need to be folded. Their work as pre-energy is not to be understood on Urantia for decades, but in
a few years, they need to be put to work. In this there will be prearrangement with Urantia
individuals who can be trusted. I am Ocilliaya, and I commend this Scribe to his work.
January 09, 2014
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1130 EST USA
Rayson and Christ Michael
[From the Scribe: I am hearing both Rayson and Michael speak at the same time!]
Subject: Ultimatons and Metals
To Inquiry on the Serara Discussion List:
Rayson: I am trying to understand your question concerning the Ultimaton element of your activity
with manipulating metals to their boiling point. Let us just say, at least until I understand what you
are trying to get at better, that metallic condensates have nothing whatsoever to do with changes in
numbers or application of Ultimatons in your environment as you work with these metals.
Metals are nature's meaning of sub-atomic life behaving in predictable patterns of condensate matter
and the Ultimaton content never is released by heating them. Only by removing their skins of
electrons do you get at an Ultimaton in the material you are working with, and to remove the skins
of metals you have to bombard them with gamma rays.
Gamma rays come about only by tremendous gravity pressure exerted on plasmas! So there is no
way on Urantia to obtain a gamma ray machine unless you attempt to bombard metals with x-rays,
but that is so dangerous do not ever go there.
Your interest in metals is genetic. You were given the talents to work with the condensate matter
that Urantians call metals and they have an attraction to you because you may find that the last of
the metallic elements to ever be discovered is coming. Be on the watch out for an atomic number
beyond 200 for the surprise of life to scientists.
For those curious about the elements and their atomic numbers (that measures the number of protons
in the atom) and atomic weight is the average mass of the atom averaging all of its common ions
together to show the average mass or the atomic weight in a chart. The number of electrons in an
atom is the same as its number of protons, and should an electron leave, the atom is called an isotope
or ion of the same element. However if a proton leaves, the atom changes itself to another kind of
Here is a chart [deleted for length] showing all known elements and their atomic numbers and
average mass. Hydrogen usually has only one proton and one electron and is usually represented as
having an atomic weight of 1.00. But hydrogen has several ions which indicates a variation in the
types of sub-atomic particles in the atom. Ever hear of heavy water? It is deuterium (a hydrogen ion
or isotope) that has one electron, one proton (so far a normal hydrogen atom), but a neutron has come
into the nucleus to form this isotope that acts like a big bubble of gas when it comes in contact with
oxygen or other deuterium-type elements. Deuterium is formed when a bolt of lightning strikes a
wet surface in a rain storm and some of the water is changed into a puddle of deuterium.
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. . .
Craig’s question: In order to metalize (Ron: “metalize” means to strip off individual atoms from a
sheet of atoms) rhodium (atomic number 45; i.e. 45 protons), you would need to bombard it with
a hundred thousand megawatts of x-rays to change it into gold.
Science believes such is not possible (i.e. the pipe dream of the medieval period believing in
something called Alchemy), but if one removes the so-called metal cover overlay that makes
rhodium atoms huddle to together to form a sheet of it by splashing it with high octane x-rays for a
certain duration, then those rhodium atoms are disassociated and scatter and destroy their cover or
coherent bonding. When that happens, the Ultimatons are free to go and if certain power is applied
one could change, at will, what element you wish to have in its place. The laws of the universe
require that no information be given out before its time and that is why they dare not tell you how
to do many things with what you are working with in your place of work.
January 09, 2014
1330 EST USA
From Christ Michael in response to Ultimaton Questions from a reader in Central America
Subject: The Nuts and Bolts of Ultimatonic Behavior in Atoms
Dear Ron:
I was reading the Urantia Book Paper 46 and some questions arose in my mind, I´d appreciate your
response . . . .
1. Why is a mesotron heavier with 98 ultimatons than an electron with 100 ultimatons? (180 times
Michael of Nebadon: The answer lies in the fact that a mesotron has no support from God as a user
of Ultimatons. The mesotron is an derivative of two bosons and their weight is higher than any
given variety of an electron.
2. How many ultimatons has a proton, if is 2000 times heavier than an electron?
Michael of Nebadon: There are over 500 types of protons in use in the universe. Each uses a
different style of proton expression and each type of proton uses a different combination of
Ultimatons to construct them. Proton use of Ultimatons range from 50 to the simple atomic nucleus
protons to over 100,000 Ultimatons in specific uses in the universe not found in Nebadon. The
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Urantia Book refers to the simple proton found in nuclear centers of common elements found in
3. How many ultimatons min and max, can be put together to get electronic matter?
Michael of Nebadon: Good question! the minimum number of Ultimatons is never less than 100
to form an electron and this may go up as high as 25,000 Ultimatons in the bosons that once were
using electrons to spin their way through the space areas of the Grand Universe. We have no idea
how the Father constructs outer space (especially level four) areas using Ultimatons, but Ron has
informed all of you that the matter in outer space level four is far different than what is used in time
4. Are there present, at the same time, the 10 modified forms of the electron in a simple atom?
Michael of Nebadon: No, no atom has variations of their electrons in them. The basic electron
contains one hundred Ultimatons, but some electrons can gain as many as 100 new Ultimatons or
as a little as one extra Ultimaton which Ron reminds me Rayson calls them muons. Muons are
electrons that have gained one additional Ultimaton in their construction.
5. Where is the mesotron?, jumping inside the proton and neutron?, How many Mesotrons in a
Helium atom . . . ?
Michael of Nebadon: Good question! The mesotron (now called an anti-proton by science on
Urantia today) is not found in the nucleus of the Helium atom at all! Rather, the mesotron or
anti-proton is located in the outer shell of the electron belt around the nucleus. It hops back and forth
to the nucleus and never stays in it and comes to rest briefly in the outer electron shell known to
science as [shell] IV, I believe.
How many mesotrons are there in a Helium atom? [The answer is ] Four.
6. How . . . [many Ultimatons are there is a Mesotron?] and how do they jump from one to another
particle? Does this cause either neutron or proton to lose any Ultimatons by the Mesotron making
these jumps?
Michael of Nebadon: Another great question! Mesotrons are not electrons ever, but they are related.
When a Mesotron jumps out of an atom, it leaves the atom entirely alone. When the electron jumps
out of an atom from a distant outer shell, it shepherds changing itself into a Mesotron briefly before
rejoining the atom it originally was part of. Not any of these sub-particles lose any of their
Ultimatons unless they have an accident while temporarily living outside of the original atom they
were part of.
7. A proton has more energy than an electron? Why?
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Michael of Nebadon: That is not really answerable because the proton is self centered on its
Ultimatons just as an electron uses Ultimatons, and these combinations are unpredictable as to how
they will exhibit energy output. I can not answer the question with any definitive knowledge except
for what I have just told you.
8. What defines the amount of energy in different types of electronic matter?
Michael of Nebadon: See my answer above Johnny. It is not explainable by physics but more by
9. What is antimatter? Are they just different types of electrons or other electronic particles?
Michael of Nebadon: Antimatter is a verboten subject, meaning it has no classification on this side
of Paradise but exists as a dangerous form of energy that has no real use by a Creator Son, Daughter,
angel or other type of being anywhere in the seven superuniverses. Its presence is demarcated by the
use of anti-protons which science loves to talk about but has no real idea that anti-protons are
antimatter in a form useable by no one.
10. Question deleted.
11. What defines the electric charge in a sub particle? . . . . (Using a proton as an example)
Michael of Nebadon: A charge is defined by what a proton does with the Ultimatons in it. If the
proton is using all of its Ultimatons to do its work, then the charge will be positive. If the proton is
using less than all of its Ultimatons, the charge will be negative. Special uses of protons are by
Creator Sons and they do not divulge how they use them except we note that they can alter charges
within a proton by changing the number of Ultimatons put to use in the proton.
12. What makes an electron, negative, or a proton, positive, or a neutron, neutral?
Michael of Nebadon: Please see the above answer. These are excellent questions Johnny.
. . . .
13. Question: Does the proton exist by itself, [meaning is the proton subscribed elsewhere as
something else before becoming a proton.]
Michael of Nebadon: The proton exists by itself. It is the Mesotron that is built up by using
Ultimatons both of the electron and the Positron in the nucleus of an atom of some element. A
positron is not a proton but they are related because they both use Ultimatons that result in a positive
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charge. The positron results because it is used by the nucleus to balance extraneous matter impacts
to the atom itself. The proton is only used for internal balancing of charges.
14. If the Mesotron maintains the stability of the nucleus, jumping from being a neutron to
becoming a proton, then the nucleus of a hydrogen atom does not need a neutron because the
mesotron is within the neutron, and this brings into existence the proton. Right?
Michael of Nebadon: No. The helium atom is built upon the premise that all charges are to be in
balance. Heavy water, deuterium, composed of one additional electron in the hydrogen atom is an
example of what we mean. H3 (deuterium) is balanced by a mesotron inside the nucleus appearing
to be a neutron. Science thinks it is a neutron but it really is a mesotron (an anti-proton as they now
call them).
15. In a helium core then I'll have 4 neutrons and two mesotrons?
4N+2M+2e= Helium
Michael of Nebadon: Not quite right. The mesotron is really helping the helium atom begin its
revolutions around its counterparts (other helium atoms). The helium atom holds two parts electrons
and two parts protons, but in the nucleus, the mesotron (anti-proton) works to keep the protons
moving in and out of the atom so it does not revert to hydrogen. Write your equation this way
4Mesotrons) + 2Protons) + 4Leptons = 1 helium atom as it operates in our space area.
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Persons who wish to no longer receive these documents may send to the same email address requesting I remove
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Not all who receive these publications own a Urantia Book, or if they have one, have they read it. I can only
recommend that it is in their interest to make an effort to borrow a text or read it on line. It will make reading these
narratives much easier to comprehend.
Monjoronson requests that all readers of either the FLURRY or The ABC Summaries use the web sites they are
affiliated with for in-depth study of the Urantia Book (now using a brand new search engine paid for by subscription
to and Serara.Org and its discussion forum at
In addition to the above information, we now have enough discussion members to originate a Q&A session that is
answering questions from the celestial family as well as from Monjoronson, Machiventa Melchizedek, Michael of
Nebadon, Rayson, Welmek, and a host of others I do not mention so as not to have too much length here.
All are encouraged to ask questions as we have opened a full court review of all the information found in the Urantia
Book revelation and what additional information will be available in the Second Urantia Book to be published
sometime in the next twenty years. That text is almost finished as of this date, and some of the revisions come from
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questions asked on the discussion form as shown in the link above.
Monjoronson also requests that all who have an interest in Ultimatons and the affiliated subject of Zero Point Energy
find their voices and bring questions to the discussion forum. You will also note in the text of the FLURRY above
that we have an interest from those outside the revelation in the science being examined here. Our interest in them is
that they represent areas of scientific investigation essential for the success of the Magisterial Mission.
In preparing this document, I was asked to provide information included in the FLURRY text and also in these notes
so there was no misunderstanding under whose authority I am acting and have prepared one additional statement for
our readers. It is this:
I am neither affiliated with any scientific organization or foundation, and I do not pander to intelligence services of
any country, but I do respect what they represent. Let it be known that I am directed by the Urantia Triumvirate
composed of the Planetary Prince, the Magisterial Son, and Michael of Nebadon and who all act under the direction
and authority of the Universal Father.
I do not pander to any organization or foundation whatsoever, but all of them, at least those with good will to all, are
also essential to the success of the Magisterial Mission, and on behalf of the Triumvirate, questions to me through
my email address are answered, but the authorities with whom I work ask that questions be directed to the discussion
forum for all of our education on Ultimatons.
Machiventa Melchizedek: I am about to take on the major responsibility of become a Director of this planet’s
spiritual organization as Chief of the Board that shall direct the Supreme Court and the day-to-day activities of the
spiritual government on earth (Urantia). My duties as a Receiver for the Magisterial Mission will be immense and I
look forward to the return of Michael who then will assume his duties as Planetary Prince, the Chief of all Urantia’s
participation as a living and evolutionary planet of human souls.
The Master Spirit of Orvonton - I am Aya and I present one other facet to these notes. The Ultimaton is something I
can attest to as the most important aspect for Urantia’s coming revival. Ultimatons should be used by all but we
must await the Trinity’s concurrence that we may do so. I am a spokesman for the Paradise Trinty and I work pretty
much alone in detailing their views; however, be advised that the Planetary Prince of Urantia will take his seat in the
morontia Temple upon his return to Urantia, and it is then we expect the Trinity to rule on the use of Ultimatons on
Michael of Nebadon: I am pleased we have a chance to speak at this point. I am naturally interested in any thing
having to do with Ultimatons. I use them to build my architectural spheres including Salvington. Be aware I do not
approve the use of Ultimatons on Urantia for now either, but I defer to my Father on Paradise as to his decision to
allow them progress in technology I expect to introduce when I arrive on Urantia within the next twenty years. In
this I am directed by Aya, Master Spirit Seven, who is also the Voice of the Paradise Trinity and The Supreme Being
now resident in the outer circle adjacent to Paradise. It is their considered opinion that not all that has been removed
from Urantia of the despicable Caligastia and his followers. In this I must remind the Scribe he carries no weight
with me when there is a chance to remove the scourge while attempting to introduce Ultimatonic technology to
industry and transportation to Urantia. I therefore do not rescind the liaison between the Science Officer and the
Scribe, but do ask both to remain silent on the subject of Ultimatons without my expressed permission to release the
I have authorized the Scribe and the Magisterial Mission’s Science Officer and made my Directive to Monjoronson
mention specifically the work of the Scribe and his work with Rayson. This Directive requires Monjoronson be
attendant at all meetings between the Scribe and the Science Officer and that also includes meetings between the
Scribe with Ramon, Jason, Hezlisbort, Daimon the Midwayer, and two or three others of Sonship Orders of an
Unrevealed placement with the Science Team. The Scribe is well aware of who these individuals are if not now very
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soon as we must start descriptions of technical details to obtain Urantia licenses for electrical generators that burn
nuclear waste safely. Ron is aware of what they entail, but the technical details must await the presence of
Monjoronson to negotiate with sovereign-nation governments to bring them on line.
As spoken in a meeting today, these generators use a fluid bed of primary elements composed of radio active rods
from the atomic power plants currently on line and from waste stations in the west, and some in salt mines.
Radioactive waste is distributed throughout the rod being used to submerge into a pool of heavy water at a nuclear
plant, and when they are withdrawn, they are dangerous and can cause death by radiation poisoning. The generators
will fire up with the rods laying on the fluidized bed of chromium dioxide and other elements. This causes the rods
to heat up to the point they turn to ash in low enough temperature to remove the ash without danger to workers. The
ash is not radio active and can be used as potash on farms for fertilizer.

In preparing this FLURRY, I was hesitant about using the Scribe to discuss Ultimatons when I arrive on Urantia and
the new generator as soon as we have permission to make the details known to some industry through persons we
trust to deliver this information to them. However, tests show that we may and we will and the industry will be a
power plant nearby known as Three Mile Island. That plant will not be decommissioned as currently planned.
We now close this FLURRY edition so the Scribe can get it out before it gets much later.
I am Michael of Nebadon, and may you feel the peace I offer all of Urantia.
Thank you.
Ron Besser:
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Re: Flurry Number 16 - Advanced Info on ULTIMATONS and metals and more
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2017, 09:34:04 PM »
I am not sure of exactly what to say regarding this long and so scientific message.  But I feel compelled to say that I found myself reading it with great interest.  I don't know why since I know nothing about these types of topics.  Anyway, thank you Ron for posting it for us to consider.  I never realized that there was so much mathematics concerning protons and electrons and ultimatons and on and on.  Wow, it is so interesting.  Those persons asking the questions had to be some type of scientist or student of science to come up with such deep and probing questions.  This will take some deep contemplating to just get the gist of what it was all about.

Anyway, my thanks for causing this old mind to chatter along.

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Re: Flurry Number 16 - Advanced Info on ULTIMATONS and metals and more
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2017, 10:32:35 PM »
Thank you Dorian,

I feel you took it exactly right.  One does not have to know the inside out of Ultimatons to realize they are a very complex subject on their own, and you saw some of that by reading through it.  In many cases Dorian I do as you do and let the complexity swim over my head while I enjoy the sheer fun of messing my finger into something so finely written on my teacher's black board, I have the dust on my hands of seeing something so grand.  You seem to say the same thing and I agree with your approach as most I think should relax and take what they can from the picture Rayson allows us to see in the family of Ultimatons all having their work to do and do it just about perfectly.  Once in awhile matter forms itself so cockeyed no one knows what happened to see it come out that way.  Good example of this is the CERN experiment to catch a Boson in action.  They smashed the Boson so bad it looked like a greyhound bus instead of a masterful particle and to this day they still think a Boson is supposed to look like that.  Rayson has his work cut out to teach them better I am sure,  Thanks for your post Dorian.    Ron
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Re: Flurry Number 16 - Advanced Info on ULTIMATONS and metals and more
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2017, 11:04:17 PM »
This is Michael.  I just saw Ron post Dorian about the Boson that got broken up at CERN and they still think the Boson should look like that mess they photographed.  Bosons are naturally large and bulky yet the one they pictured was thin and emaciated.  Instead it should have looked like a round tooth the tooth fairy would leave a big ten cent piece for when Ron was a little boy and he made use of the tooth ferry quite often.  He was sure his teeth were extra big but really the baby teeth he had were rather small due to an iron deficiency he has as a two year old.  In any case the trial to see a real Boson to picture it correctly requires a faster acceleration than CERN uses today, and Rayson thinks they need to rebuild it for safety reasons too.  I leave it to your imagination what they will think when Rayson arrives with is projectionist and lectures them on a Boson as it should be seen.

Rayson - I had no intention on saying anything on Michael’s comment but he brings up something funny Ron related to the computer company he worked with yesterday to explain his role and why the web sites look the way they do.  He explained he could hear spirit and tooj their scientific dictation and she looked at him and rolled her eyes and then saw he knew what he was talking about and really enjoy the brief description Ron gave over supper.  Today she worked on the web sites to reload the Rayson science site and saw the complexity of what he is talking about and marveled at his ability to hear and see the conceptual processes I just describe I words.  Tomorrow they will load the web site for all of you to see, an they converted it to PHP which Ron requested but did not want to take the time to do it, but they liked the site so much they placed extra workers on it to make it shine.  Be assured he has the right stuff coming for you soon.  This Rayson and we will be talking soon.

Michael - I am sure Ron will get kudos for the other web sites he will send their way as they do good work and enjoy something different for a change and will likely follow the changes Ron introduces to it and so on.  Ron must make a decision on what he wants to give them soon as the entire matter has to be on line as is when we appear mid October of shortly thereafter.  I also draw your attention to Rayson and his dislike of major disruptions in his work and there will be people coming to your site that will challenge the concept of Ultimatons, and Ron says that should open the door to some good stuff from Rayson to rebut them.  However, Ron knows the difference between a good argument and a bad way to attack an honest presentation of a concept and you may have to be prepared to see a tussle before we smooth all of this out.

Ron - Meanwhile everybody, the chance for this to happen is probably near the end of the year and we will ahve to see how they attempt to do it and so on.  You know me, cross me too hard and history find the cross keys out the door.  As long as we are truly addressing each other in civility, and a good punch is quite okay too, there is not fight with me to let it keep rolling.  Ron

Mother Spirit = I see there is little left for me to say except that the excitement builds for all of us as we are about to make our move for science and for the morality styles on the planet for a change that will not resist us as there are now 1,375 incarnated Melchizedeks on the planet working governments and citizens alike for the openng foray we plan this October.  I wish you all a good day and Rayson has one more thing to say now:

Rayson - Take this for what it is worth department: all of you know or have an idea what an Ultimaton is, but ron has a new Toyota SUV and wants to be rid of it already as it is hard to see out of since they cluttered it up with so many gadgets they block the right and left front quarter panels.  He will decide what to replace it with, but gives it to us through the Rayson Corporation and we will work on the engine to make it run on Ultimatons and will keep it as a test vehicle.  He put 5,300 miles on it and it purrs along the highway very nicely.  I hope you get the point that once we perfect that engine to run on Ultimatons the door is open to start production on that type of engine (V6 280 HP) for the public.  Rayson and Mother Spirit colluded to bring this to you this evening.  Thank you, Rayson et al.

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Re: Flurry Number 16 - Advanced Info on ULTIMATONS and metals and more
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2017, 11:22:37 PM »
So fare what I have read that Rayson has presented is not in line with the Urantia Book and I know this because I have already found most of the answers needed to understand Ultimatons and how and where they function. CERN will not find the answers until they fully apply the new conformity's that they have implemented, and then they won't be able to capture that which they will need to in order to progress further.  Also, they will need to devise a new way of looking at what they cannot see, in order to find what they are looking for. They will be able to find what they need in order to understand anti-gravity, but then a more simpler approach would allow them to understand the complexities of time, where they would be able to look into the past or the future, but that technology is already available but not truly understood. It is a shame to think that most of which has been presented is and cannot be verified, nevertheless, it amazes me that current technologies available today but kept secret, has not yet been revealed by Rayson? Information wouldn't do any good unless it can be used.  So, unless I see something useful, it would appear that they are all words on a page.                    
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Re: Flurry Number 16 - Advanced Info on ULTIMATONS and metals and more
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2017, 11:32:24 PM »
Subject: Technological advances with the "ultimaton".
Vehicles that have "Ultimaton" fuel is simply wonderful. Our world is dependent on fossil fuels, mainly as fuels for transportation vehicles such as cars, buses, trains, airplanes, ships.

I hope this technology arrives, also, here in Brazil.

Today I was talking with a colleague, in the sense that Brazil to advance economically should encourage technological companies, for example, through tax incentives or exchange with government bodies, or public companies. And these companies will need employees with study. In this way, education as a whole will be significantly developed.

On the other hand, in my view, violence increases with increasing levels of poverty, and decreases when there is economic growth, with increased employment.

When catastrophes occur due to the massive movement of tectonic plates, there will be a collapse in the transportation sector, precisely because of the dependence of fossil fuels that will no longer be available in large quantity.

I am hopeful that the technology developed with the 'ultimaton' as well as the possibility of a 'clean' and 'abundant' fuel for transport, also helps in the development of water purification machines.


Assunto: Avanços tecnológicos com o "ultimaton".
Veículos que tem como combustível "Ultimaton" é algo simplesmente maravilhoso. Nosso mundo é dependente de combustíveis fósseis, principalmente, como combustíveis para os veículos de transporte, como carros, ônibus, trêns, aviões, navios.

Espero que esta tecnologia chegue, também, aqui no Brasil.

Hoje eu estava conversando com um colega de trabalho, no sentido de que o Brasil para avançar economicamente deve incentivar empresas tecnológicas, por exemplo, através de incentivos fiscais ou intercâmbio com órgãos do governo, ou empresa públicas. E estas empresas irão precisar de empregados com estudo. E assim, se desenvolverá, de forma significativa, a educação como um todo.

Por outro lado, na minha visão, a violência aumenta com o aumento dos níveis de pobreza, e diminuem quando há um crescimento econômico, com o aumento de emprego.

Quando acontecer as catastrofes decorrentes da gigantesca movimentação das placas tectônicas irá haver um colapso no setor de transporte, justamente, por causa da dependência de combustíveis fósseis que não estarão mais disponíveis em grande quantidade.

Tenho esperança que a tecnologia desenvolvida com o 'ultimaton' além de possibilitar um combustível "limpo" e "abundante" para o transporte, também, ajude no desenvolvimento de máquinas para purificação de água.
Julio da Luz (Bar'MTinsha - Pre'Msha)