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Hi Ron, the issue of abortion is very important to me, and it is still very hot in my country.

I personally thank God for the fact that I have never had to think about this colossal problem, although I have four children and from a very young age the problem of overpopulation of the Earth was still on my mind.

It's a pity that the important documents related to the issue of human gender have been hidden in the Edgar Cayce library and we can't learn about them.

On the WTP issue, I do not lose hope that you will one day receive correspondence from a serious organization from my country.

I think that Urantia will not fall into a hopeless situation and WTP will be one of the inventions, like thousands of others, and will be put to good use on this planet together with new visions of the structure of matter and other inventions based on them.

I wish you good development of your situation.

Andre
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1. 042324 Audio Tape Tuesday Light Line USA; host: Dominick O.
2. Subjects:
· Machiventa opened & closed w/prayer and some insight comparing groups he worked with in the past compared to today.
· MICHAEL of Nebadon gave speech about brotherhood in modern times and ahead
· Arthura presented and re-presented on State and Governance. And a lot of topics pertaining to modern times and current events.
· Cooperation between Spirit/human, human/human, and divine/human.
4. Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Arthura, Machiventa Melchizedek
5. Transcribed by: sonsofGod
Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240423_110224


Dominick
All right, it's Tuesday Lightline, welcome, April 23. We start with a quick prayer and of course, we pray to Father, we pray with Michael, and as humans will we pray that our planet can do better, our lives can do better, that we can help each other, and that we can not only discern but go with the ups and downs of life and certainly understanding spirit, and everything you have to give to us and say to us. And the obvious that we wish to know the truth behind this type of communication, that we are happy and privileged to provide with you and accept called transmission, as we work out the truth and the way forward about what's happened and where we're going. Amen.
Is there anyone who wishes to speak on this Lightline today? We welcome you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa. I'm here with Michael of Nebadon and Arthura. They will speak, they will have their turn. I greet the group first, and I wish you all a good day. Here's Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
Good day everyone on Urantia, on this Lightline, and my universe. What is good for one planet is good for all. But when it comes to Missions, those are designed for specific planets or a group of planets. Just as what is good for all individuals such as the Father indwelling you, does not mean there is a specific prescription of your life that is the same for everyone. However, there is a commonality, the shared growth and opportunity that soul enrichment provides. The material life offers a lot of struggles to grow this. The plants and the trees all blow in the wind. Their limbs break, their stock band, but your roots are what keep you in place. And I would like to add that faith is much like the root of your soul. And that sometimes your roots, and this is the most difficult thing for humans too, your roots must be uplifted, and like the journey of the tumbleweed or the organism blowing in the wind, and going downstream to take up roots elsewhere, such as the journey of the soul. And your faith is bolstered by the personal relationship with me, in the way to the Father. We work as one, and we work in multiple ways. There are multiplicity of personalities throughout the universe. And so must you struggle to work amongst yourselves. I want it to be known, there is a increase in the desire to see Missions. And I caution you and I implore you, you must work amongst yourselves, regardless of how these Missions take place. It is not the time to wish for the strong man and the strong arm. That really gets you nowhere. And as Jesus cautioned, those who would pick up the sword to put them down, so must I caution you that you must renew your vows to your fellow men, that you are left with each other. And that too much wishful thinking in the intervention of spirit can be no different than the wish for an authoritarian leader on your planet to order the disorderly, the chaotic destruction of the structures of civilization and society around you. You have the tools within you, and you must allow me to organize you with my spirit in might. As you organize in the coming days include me and the Father with you always, and you will do just fine.

This command, are you your brother's keeper that you simply desire and wish to be in our spirit and have us with you. That is how you keep your brother and your sister that you bring us in. You don't beat them over the head with the fact of our existence, but that you strive for the best in each other and meeting them where they are, and not where they ought to be. And that you are there to serve them in the opportunity of the kingdom and salvation. That is the purpose of your life in the ascension, spiritual ascension that I ministered to and I rule, that I created and did this for the Father, so that I could express our Father in this area of the universe, and that your way to the Father is through me. But I designed this, so that you would do this amongst yourselves not entirely, but that there is a symbiosis of what occurs and evolved between the divine amongst you, and the imperfect humans you are, and the Father's decree to know him and be like him in perfection.

If you have no planet, none of this will be able to happen. And so, we strike the balance constantly these days, and rectifying a spiritual warfare rebellion of long ago that affects us all today, especially here on Urantia. As war mounts and fulfills the prophecy of preparation that you all do, we on Salvington, the headquarters of my rule and central government of this universe I have just described, are waiting and wondering what to do. Or rather that all the progress you feel you have made over the last say 40, almost 40 years now, since the adjudication in the courts of Gabriel versus Lucifer, all that progress gets a reality check when war appears.

When war appears all the injuries of the past become the present, and that all the progress you feel you have made evaporates with the excuse of national injury, that places you back into the peak of rebellion here on this planet, which is the 20th century. I cannot be the strong man without a showing on this planet that there is a strong enough base of souls, who can affect the change we need to establish a Mission. For further effect I cease this speech and may continue again, but that is the news I wish to bring to this Lightline in my universe today. And I put you back in the hands of Arthura.

Dominick
Thank you, Michael. Arthura!

Arthura
Thank you, Michael. I am Arthura, and thank you, Machiventa. I'm here as Arthura at the behest of Michael of Nebadon. I have given many discourses over the last year on such matters as Michael just discussed, and I'm going to do the same today.

We discussed the lesson of the past, I'll say a month ago, of what is needed today to evolve as Michael said, into the 21st and 22nd centuries. To have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is something that evolved during the period of the Lucifer rebellion, and life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is an evolution from the foundations of life, liberty, and the pursuit of property on the quasi democratic call of equality, equity and fraternity. And we ask, where are you going with social justice, diversity, equity and inclusion, and their reactionary forces such as those of what you would call the right and the left, in the middle, and so on, because these are nothing new per se.

250,000 years ago, you had such a manifesto of unbridled liberty. We are trying from our side when we discuss things like Salvington to bring this all back home, in a way this is what we are trying to correct. So, when we look at these things like I just mentioned, like a hot button, say social justice, this is a hot button in one of the countries that seems like an obvious candidate to host a Mission and be capable of spreading the goodness of such a Mission to other places on the planet. Also capable of prospering and benefiting with the eventual evolution that the entire planet enjoys the fruits of a Mission.

Well, I presented that the next evolution is life, opportunity, and the pursuit of soul growth. These of course have the core values of life, they do include some sense of equality and equity, and our three ethics that include and do not exclude, and in fact are tacit supporters of course of diversity. Life is full of diversity, equity is really a call for opportunity, and it is very dangerous to be weaponized in the apparatus of the state, instead of the principles of governing documents and philosophies.

The pursuit of soul growth is inclusive for everyone. This pursuit of soul growth is the fact that all men are created equal. You are not created equal in inherent divinity and immortality as Lucifer manifesto acclaimed, rather you are all equally created in your pursuit of soul growth. At that point there is complete inequality, in that there is diversity of how that soul growth progresses in each of you. It starts with the diversity and not the equality of your birth circumstances. So understand, there is a discordant logic to diversity, equity, and inclusion, and the fruits of that logic rooted in a philosophy that is not evil, but it demands that there are frameworks of oppressors. And that these oppressors are upholders of oppressive systems and that those systems must be destroyed. And so this type of approach to governance is something of an anathema does not foster growth in the first place, rather a chaos.

Let's go back to governance, because governance is state and law. When the state first appeared it was a city state, that evolved to nation states. And nations don't necessarily have states. Nations have a conglomeration of tribal identities unified as a nation. And now we have something to call multinational states. And so, the state with its laws is asked to govern through the courts, the legislator and the executive, the laws of individuals, families, and now corporations, multinational corporations. And the tyranny of the state personified of the political science or the Leviathan versus the philosophy of the social contract, is now literally wrapped up in the multinational corporations. Literally your social contract is evermore entwined with the public private sector governance of social contract, and what this does is create an emphasis on the last bastion of governance for the individual with a soul, and that is the courts. The courts in the United States still work better than almost any other place in the world, but none of it is perfect. There is plenty of blame to go around in history and current affairs, but when it comes to the law and the use of corruption versus say justice, justice is still possible at the state and local level in the United States, but the federal level it's a crapshoot.

Dominick
This is Dominick. I'm listening to reconnect there's no
Loss of the connection for those listening. Atrhura, do you wish to continue?

Arthura
Yes, look at what is from the board and let me connect better on the transmission.

Other subjects that are related to this, we discussed the individual, the family, and the multinational corporation, and tied between these are things such as gender and race relations, certainly. These things are divisive issues in the world often. It has gotten to the point where even those who disagree on the same side, those who could be unified have disagreements that allow, or disallow rather, in form of noncooperation. This is a recipe for devolution, backwards progress. There should be a baseline agreement that you wish to cooperate at all, and then go from there. Your Congress in the United States needs this, for example. There needs to be a constitutional convention reiterating that parties and factions are in government and agree that they cooperate for the good of the nation and the state.

What Michael said was, do not look for Salvington to do this for you. How are you going to insert yourself in the call that the fifth epochal revelation provided to go forth and espouse new meanings and values? How much value is that if you repurpose the revelation with new pronounce, versus say, what guidance I am trying to give you? Not this transmitter. The transmitter has the vocabulary, the mental experience to provide the words to you in sentences, but I, Arthura, on behalf of Michael am asking you what are you going to do to cooperate and organize to aid discuss amongst yourselves and formulate questions that provide life and progress to this guidance, we are giving you of life, opportunity, and pursuit of soul growth? Why should that take a backseat to identity politics?

Why should you get wrapped up in that identity politics and conveniently dismiss transmission and Lightline, and the supplemental governance and guidance that you wish would be part of revelation, and the church, and personal ministry. We don't dissuade you from that desire, but you must do better to organize amongst yourselves to be willing to go forth in the world with these new values and meanings. And at that point does Michael wish you to be your brother's keeper, so that there are none of these pitfalls that will constantly pull at you because the road is difficult. But the road is difficult no matter which road you choose as you see, and all the choices before you.

To bring it back, we have the example of your forefathers and mothers, your brothers and sisters, that you cannot be simply passively waiting for the divine sort of deity to make you all behave. You have to do that heavy lifting yourself sometimes.  
That you can start by giving life to these ideas that come forth. This is not a form of entertainment anymore. Never was, never will be, but that you should have your hearts and minds stirred to the point that you take action. Now, that can be very simple in that you strive to know better. Not just that, but if you hear a transmission ask, not challenge the transmitter, but ask the question, how am I to bring this to life, you say Arthura, and I will use transmission to answer that. And like prayer, that question does get routed and networked to the appropriate places that they can be addressed, and fallow through in that the divine administrations and administrators can begin to work with you. So, this is not answering your heart's desires to be part of a Mission, we know that. But now you must strive to make each other better to air your differences better. That's all we have to say about that for now.

And lastly, as part of that, shift your attitudes that if you've listened for so long you either begin to follow what I have just prescribed and what Michael was prescribing, or you could go into the realms of meanings and values amongst your fellow men and seek the will and business of the Father without being in the Missions. It's okay. Understand though, that the Missions so to speak are here also to cooperate with you, if you do that. There is no either or, in or out, you are fluid to go in and out in the manner of cooperation that nothing associated with the Missions per se, in the form of these corporate foundations set up to serve them. Nothing is subsumed by their enjoyment in cooperating with them. We are here to offer whatever we can that we deem fruitful for you and as for us to share, and we hope that you have that same spirit likewise.

If you think we are crazy and mentally ill, it's okay to think that, but you should be willing to share your assessment and have that assessment be disagreed with, and possibly put aside, if you think there's some good to be done in the cooperation. At this point, in the world situation, if you wish to go into the mental maze and pitfalls of conspiracy, and whether or not this and that is the devil, and so on, then you need to … yes, take a timeout and not involve yourself, and possibly come back later when you have a breath of fresh air.

There is probably more I could add, but I'm getting used to humans and I think I will stop there. This is Arthura. I thank you all I am here not forever in Nebadon. So I bid you a good day and ask you at the very least to begin to formulate questions of organization, meaning and values, and how you can offer that towards your fellow men and to the Father's business. Thank you.

Dominick
Thank you, Arthura. Back to you Machiventa?

Machiventa Melchizedek
Yes, you got me. I am here as Machiventa. We have the board to look at as we do in these Lightlines. The rollcall for this Lightline is 17, which includes the transmitter. And that’s 17 on the line, and usually includes more people in ones or twos here and there. So, it's a good number today. For those listening in the future of the recording, you too are quite welcome. Your questions can be formulated in the future at any time. And you're welcome to join in the few channels of communication at serara.forum.org, and you can hear these transcripts and audio recordings at Fatherslightline.com. That is the mundane business of facilitating your questions.

Michael sends his bidding but has no more to say today unless it's through any other transmitter. This is Machiventa. To the group, you have 10 minutes left. This would be an excellent time if you had a question, we will address it. You might even consider sharing any reaction that you had. This is often a form of a question unformulated and could help develop one. As Machiventa, I've served on the planet, I've organized people. I've sent them on exactly the kind of Missions that have just been alluded to by Arthura.

I find it hard to believe that no one has a comment. And this is because back in the stone age that I worked in, there was no group fear amongst my missionaries in training. Once they were gathered, they felt safe in the gathering, unified under my guidance. When Arthura spoke to with the fears and tribulations of the mind as they wrestle with the validity of Revelation, the validity of transmission, and the confusion amongst spirit contactable amidst the era of rebellion and the danger that it still poses today even in its outer workings. There is this conditioning of ghost fear no more, but rather the state of affairs has created a fear, not to mention the fact that those of you who have participated up till now have made many errors, and many people have suffered the consequences of each other's decisions and behaviors and outcomes, from all of us. There is no lack of candidates that have muddled the clarity of where we are going on spirit with this, and therefore it is open to all sorts of attitudes and certitudes by those in authority of the organization around spirits. And that could be anywhere from teachers to churches, to really the institutions of surrounding those churches, those religions.

So, I end this Lightline as Machiventa, and we pray to the Father that we find your will in everything we do, but that we pray that we are given to even looking before we act. And that it is not an afterthought, or an after effect, that we get in the habit of seeking your guidance within before we act without. And that we forgive those trespasses and pray that such trespasses don't leave a lingering effect in ourselves to be deposited in the soul, only to be harvested in the future of anticipated trespasses. Father, dissolve those real and perceived trespasses of our brothers and sisters, and renew us that we may work the Father's business and experience the love that we know truly exists, but it's so often hidden here on this planet we live and work on. Thank you. Amen.

Dominick
Okay, that ends this Lightline. Thank you, Machiventa. Thank you, Michael of Nebadon. Thank you, Arthura.

End
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Thank you Lemuel and I am in almost the same straits you are.  But I would like to comment on something concerning MUONS.

I just reread what  I wrote about Muons and I think it is terrible.  Let me try again.

The MUON is a preparticle but it is the only antigravity preparticle we can see or know in our familiar pattern to describe matter appearance on this planet.  Without the Muon, matter could not materialize easily, and although I doubt MIT would ever consider that statement well, the Master Force Organizers insist that such a statement is true.  I am happy to concur, for the my patent (US #11601013). to design an electric plant that easily converts electrons to muons and then to a broadcast of muons for 200 miles from the antenna as an electric field to a house antenna, is still quite good.  But I doubt if anyone will do anything with such an electric plant as it is too far ahead of theory on this planet to use comfortably.

But in this post I wish to state the following for knowledge at least:  THE MUON IS A DOUBLE HELIX of several kinds of preparticles.  That is such a mouthful to speak to, but what it means is simply this:  PREPARTICLES ALL HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON: they are all electrified by the ULTIMATON, a tiny, tiny speck of energy no one knows about except me, and that was an accident I still enjoy reciting.

All Preparticles have one thing in common:  ULTIMATONS.  I have shown you a picture of what I think the Ultimaton looks like and I am assured it is close by those I speak to in the exalted space of the central universe.   But the readers of this work do not have to know how it was confirmed to me they exist, but readers should know how I ascertain how the Ultimaton works in anything that is materialized. 

The ULTIMATON is a basic source of energy for all of this planet's work from the planetary corp to its showing of the aurora borealis  (here is quite a picture in Alaska of it:  https://www.borealisbasecamp.net/homepage.)   I want you all to know that the light from this phenomena is all castigated light source as the light in the aura borealis lightly summarized by internal particles not see on this planet because they are even smaller, tinier, than the Ultimaton, and the Ultimaton is so small science cannot prove their appearance.  But we know something about the Ultimaton easily, for if your remove any of them from a preparticle, that preparticle changes state and becomes another type of preparticle.  We use the idea in this electric plant, and when we knock out an Ultimaton from the electron, we get Muons.  Go figure.   But that is what operates this electric plant to make electricity out of the air.

In any case, let us consider the Muon antigravity and an antipositive use pf energy and not worry particularly why it works so well/

I am positive it will work at once, but we have to spend about 35 Million Dollars to prove it to build the plant itself.  I am not confused by the size of the money bill that comes with building the plant, but I am disappointed there are so few takers of the technology that I have yet to see one inquiry to speak to the plant yet.  That is sad to me, but I am quite sure if  we wait long enough someone will nibble at least to see what they can get out of it if they bought it.  But, let me make this clear, it is not for sale, but it is up for investment and I am very happy to entertain that interest entirely.

In conclusion, if someone writes to me to ask about it, I will answer fully about it an the question(s) they might have about how it works. 

I thank all of you for your interest, and let us pray that it can be implement, because my forecast for this planet is that unless there is a new discovery of producing energy to run our machines, there will be a digression of thought and we will fail to have enough energy on the planet when the time comes. 

Thank you for listening and happy preparticle to you too!

Ron Besser/York, Pa



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General Discussion / Re: THE CABAL: AND THE MIAMI MALL EXPERIMENT
« Last post by Ron Besser on Today at 05:29:28 »
WEYDEVU, BE CAREFUL, as the cabal has its feelers out on all of this alien comfort studies as they are making everything possible but keeping things under wraps.  Who am I talking about?  The Pleadiens not, but ourselves (not aliens but objective controllers)  This is a fine topic, don't get me wrong, but it is full of mistaken identity (wrong foucs on who did what), and you would not know that but Spirit does know, more or less fully, what is occurring in this matter of appearing aliens.  I am not going to speak to it much, but the report you received via the Internet misses one very important fact:  what was seen was not alien at all, but male control of the media making it appear one way or another.  The Internet is full of this kind of person, and we do not get a full picture of what really happened, and that is because money is so important to those who put this stuff on the internet.  I am not making claims against this internet version, but the voicing of spiritual talk is now reminding us that not every thing we see or talk about is true and the internet recording we have here is misleading mostly.  

That does not tell you much and I am not being informed well, but even the cabal, (the insurrectionists) on this planet are making sure that this kind of stuff sent out by those on the internet is somewhat fraudulent  due to the fact the people who issue reports on the internet are money hungry and they like to keep the insight they think they are supplying, so fascinating you and everyone else cannot put it down.  I am MERCORI, and Ron does not know me well enough to say who I am, but I will tell you I am a commander of one of those ships you saw briefly and that is not a good way to tell you who I am but it will have to do.  As MECORI (MIC- CURI in pronunciation),  I tell you to be careful Weydevu, as to repeat stories that you get from UFO style people, they will confuse you totally as they are unlikely to ever tell you the full truth.  Listen:

That incident is real.  But the incident is not real by what they may be saying about it as they are on the level of 1st graders, and you are at least on the 4th grade level, and many including Ron responding to this are on an even higher level and only Ron is making sure you know more than you thought you did and that you Weydevu must use your judgement in talking about these events.  

For instance, the alien ship is not a shop but a scout.

For instance, the person you mistake as something else is a drunk woman and she fell down and seems to have disappeared but she passed out and was partially hidden on the ground by very poor lighting.

Third, there is nothing  for  any of you to take well from the pictures taken that night, as the pictures are improper lensing and I dare not tell you more, but the entire incident is not for you to bring back for discussion, because the litigants in this story indeed are alien ships, but we are not discussing their problems, but your problem with others on this discussion, range from incredible error in picture taking, and that the mall residents did not see half of this of what is represented even when and while the incident was underway.  I am MECORI and I greet you later in the MISSIONS TO URANTIA shortly.  K"

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Recording Links:
https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240423_110224


https://www.fatherslightline.com/recorded/tues-ll-04-23-24-machiventa-michael-arthura

  • Machiventa opened & closed w/prayer and some insight comparing groups he worked with in the past compared to today.
  • MICHAEL of Nebadon gave speech about brotherhood in modern times and ahead
  • Arthura presented and re-presented on State and Governance. And a lot of topics pertaining to modern times and current events. 

Another theme of the Lightline was the cooperation between Spirit/human, and human/human, and divine/human.
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1. 042224 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise, other transmitter: Ron Besser
2. Subjects: the endless mistakes humanity makes instead of following Jesus’ example; Thought Adjuster are always available to guide us through difficult times; teachers of love and tolerance, working for spirit is exceptionally complicated; Father’s considerable and meaningful message to us all; Jesus’ greeting and words of encouragement, sharing their decisions with us; the Missions will not go in regular fashion on Urantia, acknowledgments and thanksgiving
3. Speakers: Arthura;, Thought Adjuster of Elise, Machiventa Melchizedek, Esthea, Van, the Universal Father, Jesus, and Machiventa Melchizedek through Ron Besser
4. Transcriber: sonsofGod
5. Link To Tape: https://www.conferncecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240422_110118 

Elise
Hello, everyone. Good day and good evening. This is the Lightline Netherlands International for Monday, the 22nd of April 2024. I am Elise Sophia Veronica, your host, and I welcome all for tuning in today. Let’s see if we can connect with spirit and hear their words. We have all together 11 callers participating, including those on the audio internet. Thank you for joining.

Well, first we always go to the Father, our Heavenly Father on Paradise, and to our Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon. We're grateful again for this opportunity to come together, and we thank you for your blessings, which we so generously receive even without being aware of it. We ask for clear reception and understanding of what will come to us in this Lightline. We thank you, Father, and we thank you, Father Michael. Now, let’s ask, is there anyone from the spirit side who is there to speak some words to us.

Arthura
This is Arthura. Good day to all.

Elise
Welcome, Arthura, thank you for coming.

Arthura
Thank you, Elise. Well, and to start out now, the good news is that all is still going well, which is what going on, we have the same date in mind, we are heading to the month of May, and see what that will do for us and how things will work out. And by that time, I'm sure we'll have some kind of presentation that we can do also for these Lightlines.

I am Arthura, and much have been written and said about the upcoming Missions, and I know of the works of the Father and of Michael of Nebadon, and all who are involved in this great undertaking of a Mission on your planet Urantia. Not the easiest planet, a planet that has caused and continues to cause much trouble. There is, well it seems there is a tendency on this planet that makes it difficult to learn from the mistakes that have been made, and that should actually move society forward after learning about your own mistakes. To move into a society of harmony with each other and with all of your nations. And we often think, what is it with you people? You get so much attention. God himself work your soul on the earth, and you, you fail to take care of this beautiful world.

You see disaster after disaster, war after war, poverty, misery. People on the run looking for safety. Epidemics raging around the world. And none of your governments is taking any action to change this horrible misery that continues to spread. And next your world is almost uninhabitable for your pollution, and your abundance of goods and luxuries for only a small part of humanity, we are sorry to say. So we ask where is the morality? Where is compassion? Where is the love that Jesus showed you when he lived on this earth?

Jesus was here who showed the people how to live in simplicity with your brothers and sisters. Jesus loved everyone. He loved his neighbors. He kept everyone in a place in his heart. He never judged anyone. He paid attention to every person he met. What a beautiful example. Everyone on your planet has read about the life of Jesus. What have you learned?

Well, God himself was on your planet. And he's ready to set foot for the second time. In the world, from which he had to depart so quickly. Is the world ready to receive him? Spirit is waiting and trying to find a method to save the world, to protect it from further misery. But we keep asking ourselves, where is the reception committee? That should be so joyfully welcome God to earth.

I am Arthura. Well, it's hard to tell. But I see that instead one prefers to fight and triumphantly celebrate the victory of slaughtering and harming an innocent population. We, in spirit would almost turn our heads to turn away from the scene of a horror and childish behavior that leaves so many citizens out in the cold. Bur, we do not turn our heads. We look the pity of undeveloped actions of humanity. And God, in the meantime, has decided to put his feet on earth again. And once again, make an effort to teach humanity how to live in peace with one another. How to care for each other, how to share, how to love, and how to honor God.

Be prepared for what is to come. Be strong, be an example in days of change and trial. Pray and work, show your courage, so that we, and up here in spirit, see your goodwill to work for the planet and its inhabitants for a better future. A future of simplicity and love. Love for each other, with a place where everyone has the right to protection by and for each other. This is Arthura at your service.

Elise
Thank you, Arthura, thank you very much.

Thought Adjuster of Elise
Hello to all. This is the Adjuster of Elise to help you cope, and to strengthen your faith, for we are aware that you all have difficulties in understanding with full meaning of what is going to take place. What is going to take place is a Mission, given to Urantia by the Universal Father and your Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon. The Mission will appear, but mostly hidden from the public. And done in spirit partly by Monjoronson and Serara, your Magisterial Sons of record. Serara and Monjoronson are both Paradise sons of God. They are from the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit. Close brothers to the Creator Sons, who are from the Father and the Eternal Son. Serara and Monjoronson are the Magisterial Sons. They are high magistrates for the realms, they are highly experienced for what they have to accomplish. And usually that has to do with the adjudication of destinations, which include the awakening of the sleeping survivors many times. But another Mission as this one is going to be reset for the planet in a low material form. Monjoronson and Serara will be on your planet incarnated. And their tasks and duties will not accomplish adjudication per se. On your planet, Monjoronson and Serara will be the main leaders in the Magisterial Foundation, and it is through theirs and Michael's mandate that all other orders will work in all kinds of capacities, except for Jesus. He has his own agenda. You'll probably hear or even see a Magisterial Son as the Missions unfold into a later stadium. We advise you to remain in contact with your Adjuster and try to find his guidance as much as you can during your daily choirs, and even in things that keep you busy on a normal day.

Because the contact that you and I may celebrate during the day are those intimate moments you share with me. Trying to give you directions so that you get a better picture of what to do or where to go. Life is not easy, and it will not be easy in the future as you are already informed of. The earth will follow her own evolution and will break under your feet. Many will get lost. They might be in a state of bewilderment not knowing what to do or where to go. But you, you will be a pillar of strength in the middle of all this. You will reach out to help where you can. But always under our guidance, always contact your Adjuster for the right thing to do at the right moment.

Then, you may have to find a way to decide what to do in such circumstances. You know how to reach out for your Adjusters. We are the forces that are always there. We’re able to adjust your min to, to be with the Father whom we are, and represent always in your mind and in your hearts. This is Elise’s Adjuster, speaking for all Adjusters present here today. Thank you. Thank you for listening. Have a good day.

Elise
Thank you, Adjuster. There is …

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa Melchizedek, Elise. There is a speaker here, waiting patiently to address this group. And I will give it back to you, Elise, to welcome your next speaker. So go ahead if you're ready.

Elise  
Thank you, Machiventa. Thank you.

Esthea
Good day everybody. I am a group teacher who has worked on many planets in the universe. You do not know me. I have never spoken to a human on Urantia before, but I would like to take this opportunity to speak to all of you. I have a name, but a name is not important for what I have to say today. Call me Esthea. E S T H E A. We are from Esthenea. We are Esthenians. We are the teachers of love and tolerance. And you could certainly use some reminders of what love does, particularly on a planet like Urantia. That is in a state of deep misery and doesn't know how to deal with the most simple rules of life. Of how to take care of oneself and others when the situation calls for it. Many of you on this world so used to getting up in the morning minding your own business, your daily concerns and joys of life, but where is your one thought of your Father in heaven who watched over you that night? Who has sent his angels to care for you, so that you can have a few hours of rest and peace, which are then cruelly broken again in the morning when you start the day, just as the previous one. We, the teachers of love and tolerance, would advise you to take a few minutes, and to try in the morning to stay in that nighttime peace. Try to find peace and tranquility in your mind to stay, to start the day in your ingratitude to Father, who gave you another day to experience, to care for your loved ones, and for those who need your attention and love.

Isn't it love that gives you the most satisfaction when you share it with someone else? You feel accepted and understood. You feel bonded and appreciated. Think about it and feel that love is all around you, if you know how to find it and share it with others. We know from experience that all your troubles and sorrows will cease when you know how to give love to someone, and more love will dwell up in your heart when you can be there for your brothers and sisters. That joy and satisfaction, that feeling will fill your heart with a deep, loving feeling. You'll begin to see the connection of life between you and the other person who is no different than you, even though he or she may be of different race, culture, religion, or may have a different opinion. Education or culture will not stand in your way if you try to reach and understand each other from the heart.

The problem is the world cannot heal without love. Love is in every person. Love must be applied in every action, in every confrontation, in setbacks, in mistakes and in every encounter with each other. Through love you get to know your neighbor. And then you make an effort to get to know each other, even your enemy, you will see that it's not difficult to love each other, when you are able to contribute by reinforcing the bond of love, which continues to grow, and which fights the selfishness and individualism of those who seek love only for themselves and leave others behind.

My words for you are, be aware of love. Know that you can love and that you can be loved. And that you can use your love to heal, to connect, to be tolerant, to build a partnership with everyone you meet. The world needs to learn what love is and how to use love in action, by applying your love to all and everything in your daily routines. Love is what holds your life together. Love makes your soul grow. Love strengthens your ever-present believe that there is more in the world than you're able to see or hear. Because love comes from the soul, from your deepest feelings, connected with a source of life, with God, your Father, who loves you beyond measure, and who will always see the love within every person.

I'm Esthea. We are a group of teachers. We thank you for listening to our words. We are the teachers. We love teaching about the power of love and what it means. Be aware of your love and feel your love that gives you the highest joy and is able to cleanse your environment from hatred and war, from misunderstanding and abuse. Now is the time for the people of Urantia to open up and allow love to flow freely over the world, of soil, of waters, its forests, and all life on your earth. My name is Esthea. I belong to a group that teaches love and tolerance. And I say goodbye and I wish you a day full of love.

Elise
Oh, thank you, Esthea. Thank you for coming to this Lightline. It's very nice to meet you and I hope you will be back.

Okay, this is Elise, let me see if we have any new people here? Well, we're up to 16 at the moment, and I welcome all who came in a little later. You're very welcome. And let's see if we can continue with more words from spirit, see if there's anyone else.

Van
Yes, hello, everyone, this is Van. You know me, and I know you. It's really nice to be here again.

Elise
Welcome, Van. Welcome to the Lightline and please, tell us what you have to tell us.

Van
Well, it is true, this is a small group, but a group with large promises and a lot of experience. You have had many trials to go through in the recent years, and that is not easy. But each of you has your own concerns, and each of you has worked in a different way, or has participated and prepared yourselves for the Missions.

The Missions are the main goal, and each of you is willing to dedicate yourselves to these Missions as soon as they become public and workable on this planet. But also at certain times your motivation could be almost lost, by changes and more changes.

But I'm Van, and I can tell you that working with spirit is something that cannot be achieved quickly. Jesus is the only example in the history of this planet where the great miracle of God became reality through the gift of that divine being, your Creator Son, when he experienced what life as a human is on the planet. You have all learned about this and you have probably gained a deeper meaning. But there is much more to the fact of his bestowal that you have ever heard spoken of.

The Bestowal of a Creator Son as a human on the planet is something that only the Universal Father can accomplish. It is a secret to every inhabitant of the entire universe, a secret of the Father that will likely last into eternity. Only Father can accomplish such mighty things. And he has done this countless times with many Creator Sons who had to complete their final bestowal, which has happened more than 750,000 times at least. This act, it does belong to the sublime actions of God. And it remains mysterious event. It is from the Father himself, and it is an event that takes place on Saverington, the planet for the Sons who guide the local universes that they have created according to their own understanding and control.

At certain time, an incarnation takes place in the order of a human being created by that Creator Son, the lowest order in his creation on a planet. It is the final bestowal of the Creator Son, which involves birth as a baby on an inhabited planet. Just as your Jesus was born as a little, helpless, babe to his parents, who were chosen to receive him and raise him. But also here, you'll see how circumstances gave history a different term. Jesus lost his earthly father at the age of 14. An age at which a boy desperately needs his father. However, Mary his mother took over Joseph's task the best as she could. But Jesus could have learned a lot from his father, regarding life's trials and daily complexities.

I am Van. I tell you this to remind you that life has its course. That working for spirit is exceptionally complicated. That we can control many things, but that we never know exactly what circumstances may arise in the short life of man on a planet, where he gains his experiences as a human being. I am Van, and I'm stepping back. I thank you Elise for picking me up. I wish you all a good day and hope to be back soon

Elise
Thank you, Van. Thank you very much. Ah, just give me a minute.

Universal Father
Here is your Universal Father, Elise. This is your Universal Father. I speak to all here, and to all who listen to my voice at any time.

I know you have all felt it. You have all felt the tension or even some confusion. And yes, times are uncertain and it's hard to give you the latest updates that will hold up, that will stand.

Ron is not feeling well. He is constantly plagued by the insurrection is and weakened by what he has to go through in this transition. He felt like he was completely at the end of his strength. But we will let him be and he will be given cure, so that he can somehow stay the course and ensure that the patent is used properly by those who deserve to be part of it. That he can see the power plant being built and working. That is what we have in mind for Ron. But the trial is not over yet. There is much happening without his knowledge that is of concern to Michael, your Creator Son. We do need your patience and trust to overcome the difficulties that we, the world, and the universe are faced with. It is a mixture of great concern for all parties involved when we look at the overall situation.

I'm your Universal Father, and you will know that I care for all of you. The universal forces are strong and well trained to handle every situation in a divine and fair manner. Do your work. Keep asking yourself how you can help with what is feasible for you, and don't forget to go into stillness and meet me there, and ask your Adjuster for clarification.

You'll have to deal with many uncertain situations. Adversity and wrong thinking can affect your discernment, but your Adjuster will always seek to enhance your insight and give you what is needed at the time. I give myself to all of you, and I know that you are all faithful to my call to seek and find me. Do not give up when your heart and soul yearn to do the Father's business. You are my beloved children. I am your Father, the Universal Father. Go in peace.

Elise
Thank you, Father. Thank you for your words. We're all happy when you speak to us.

Jesus
Yes, and this is Jesus, Elise. This is Jesus. I didn't mean to speak on this Lightline. Not because I wouldn't like to, but because of my duties elsewhere. But I do not want to let my faithful and attentive listeners to pass by without saying hello. I am Jesus. I am well aware of all what's going on in your minds. I feel your joy when we meet, and the feeling is mutual, my dear children. How difficult it is for all of you to have to deal with what has to be decided, and to get implemented by spirit, and its many different authorities spread out over the vast universes. We come and go, and let you be a part of our decisions. But you'll never fully understand our motivations or a need to decide for one option or the other. So I come to encourage you, and I want you to stay tuned. It will not take long before you’ll get some more information if we are allowed to do that. We know of your sincerity. We know of your trust, of your love for all of us. And we do appreciate your regular attendance to these Lightlines. I am Jesus, I love you, I send you my blessings, I send you my peace. Stay strong. Keep the course. Stay with each other. Stay with your Adjuster, with Father, with Michael, and we thank you for your care. We do care so much for this loyal group of listeners. May the Father bless you all. I wish you good day.

Elise
Thank you so much, Jesus.
Well, I don't think I have anything else, let me think. Let me go to another transmitter if there is one who would like to say anything. And we have, well, we have Ron here. I don't know if I can unmute you, Ron, but I am going to try you, Ron. I have unmuted you and maybe you can have something to say to us?

Ron Besser
All right.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. I welcome you all through Ron. Ron is half awake half asleep, because the mind that he uses is being updated. We seldom update minds went on a planet, but Ron will be containing much more time on Urantia, because he wants to finish what he started. And that is to help you, and to anyone else that would like to use the facilities to hear these Lightlines. We are not going to stay long, but we are going to say this.

I have, for about oh, let me try to calculate it, about 7 billion years I have known that Urantia existed, but only until recently has it been filled with people. But yet these people in spite of the Bestowal of Jesus has made a mockery of what a planet should be. We are not happy with United States, but multiply it times 10 times 10 with Saudi Arabia, and the Middle East in particular, and the Arabs which should know better, but they don't. For reasons of state therefore, we are going to say to Urantia, good luck in the future, because the Missions are not going to be held in a regular fashion.

Ron has established the Magisterial Foundation and six other corporations to handle it. We looked at it this morning and said, It is perfectly able to handle what we want to do on Urantia. I don't know what possessed Ron to do six corporations, but we can use every one of them. And we will for most of these Missions.

And now this to you, Elise. Ron said to himself as he listened today. My goodness, you've improved. You have held almost the entire length of transmission today. And that is unusual for you, but you do it easily in these difficult times. Ron notices all of it.

And for the rest of you, the board, as well as the listeners. Ron is not dying. It just feels like it at the moment. In any case, I want you all to know that the Magisterial Foundation, this one, whom you're benefiting by at the moment, is ready not to close down, but to refute the cabal and build the electric plant. It is ready to build. We've got to have engineers, draw the plants, and then construct it. It will be constructed near York. we just don't know where just yet.

And finally this to all of you on the board. I thank you, this is Ron, for staying the course, and seeing to all that has to be done. It's hard work, I know it is, and I thank you. The people thank you. And now, Elise, I'm turning this back to you. And thank you for the opportunity to speak. Go ahead, please. Thank you.

Elise
Thank you, Ron. And thank you Machiventa Melchizedek. I also want to thank all the other speakers. First of all, Universal Father, and Jesus and Arthura. We had my Adjuster and we had Van, and we had a group of teachers, we listen to Esthea. We thank them all for their words. And I am thanking all of you, the listeners, and I'm going to my dashboard and I see that Dominick has his hand up. I have unmuted you Dominick.

Dominick
Thank you Elise.

Elise
Go ahead.

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TRANSLATIONS / 23.4.2024 – Przegląd na dziś
« Last post by Andre_P on Yesterday at 13:24:07 »
Ta sama wiadomość po angielsku :
https://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=21232.msg103160#msg103160
Przekazał : Ron Besser, administrator, członek bohater
Kategoria / Temat : Wątki nowych przekazów / Wpis z przeglądem paru rzeczy dla was . . .
« 23 kwietnia 2024 r., godz. 07:26:39 »


Witamy na internetowym FORUM SERARA. Jest to wpis, w którym staramy się opowiedzieć czytelnikom po raz pierwszy o tym jak mówimy dużo o Wszechświecie i jak Bóg nam o tym mówi. Nie możemy łatwo wyjaśnić, czym jest ta strona internetowa, ale u podstaw wyjaśnienia tego, co robimy, jest to, że Bóg ostatnio lubi mówić do niektórych z nas, a my przyjmujemy sposoby, żeby Go usłyszeć, ponieważ mówi wieloma głosami.

Po pierwsze, warto wiedzieć coś o tym, jak nazywają naszą planetę i jak się do niej odnoszą. Wymawiają tę nazwę „U RAN SZA”, a SZA wymawia się z długim „A” na końcu słowa.

U - RAN - SZA i to jest ich nazwa dla naszej planety, która tłumaczy się jako „planeta piękna”.


WYMOWA NAZWY NASZEJ PLANETY WYGLĄDA NASTĘPUJĄCO :
Litery w nazwie „Urantia” mają końcówkę „TIA”. Dowiadujemy się, że cokolwiek w ich języku mówionym kończy się na TIA, jest po prostu wymawiane po angielsku SZA. Nie mamy zbyt wielu angielskich słów, które się z tym rymują, więc poszedłem do internetu, żeby poprosić o listę słów, które również kończą się na TIA, a jeśli to pomoże wam wymówić słowo URANTIA, to pomóżcie sobie innymi angielskimi słowami kończącymi się na „tia”, ponieważ wszystkie są wymawiane podobnie.
Ephydatia
Errantia
erythrodontia
essentia
Eupomatia
exodontia
explanantia

Co my tu robimy ?

Ta strona internetowa nosi nazwę Serara.org. Pierwotnie nazywała się inaczej, a teraz nawet tytuł tej strony internetowej nie jest łatwy do ustalenia. Pierwotna nazwa naszej strony miała nawiązywać do grupy Boskich Synów Magisterskich przybywających na Misję duchową, na naszą planetę. Było to już w roku 2003. Nie zagłębiam się w historię tej planety od 2003 roku, ale za każdym razem, gdy duchowe moce były gotowe do rozpoczęcia, działo się coś, co opóźniało całą Misję na tej planecie.

Krótko mówiąc, oto mała linia czasu tego, co skorygowało nasz czas mówienia o tym wyraźnie przez lata i nadal nie jest to całkowicie wyprostowane dla Misji na tej planecie. Oto najnowsza historia :

2014 - Decyzja o wysłaniu Misji na Urantię została ogłoszona i przygotowana.

2018 - Doszło do powstania, które uniemożliwiło tej planecie skorzystanie z Misji.

2020 - Postanowiono wstrzymać się do czasu opanowania powstania serafinów i zapewnienia zwykłych materiałów do duchowej misji na Urantię;

2024 - Powstanie uspokoiło się na tyle, że duch naczelny tego wszechświata lokalnego postanowił wyruszyć z Misją tutaj.


Przed 2014 rokiem przez około dziesięć lat dyskutowano, jak podejść do tej planety, a w 2014 roku po prostu zrozumiano, jak należy to zrobić.

Najpierw, w 2011 roku, postanowiono wezwać Jezusa, żeby stanął na czele Misji, ale powstanie aniołów różnego rodzaju narzekających na utratę Boga Najwyższego wybuchło i dopiero teraz, w 2024 r., powrócono do ustaleń dotyczących przeprowadzenia duchowej Misji na tej planecie. „START” zostały zadekretowane w 2023 roku, a rok 2024 miał być rokiem Misji. Nie wiemy jeszcze, czy tak się stanie.

Wreszcie w 2024 roku duch odpowiedzialny za to wszystko jest naszym Synem Stwórcą i On zadekretował, że teraz możliwe jest sprowadzenie duchowej Misji na naszą planetę, ALE : pojawiły się wojny jak małe gorące punkty w ogniu trawy i Syn Stwórca powiedział NIE ! Wciąż czekamy, aż to „NIE !” zniknie, żebyśmy mogli wrócić do planowania duchowych Misji na naszej planecie.

Teraz już wiecie, co ja wiem i na razie to zostawiamy, ale oto Syn Stwórca mówi do was wszystkich w następujący sposób :

„TU SYN STWÓRCA TEJ PLANETY i wszechświata, który widzicie migoczący światłem gwiazd w nocy.

„Ron odważył się w prosty sposób wyjaśnić, co musi być jednym z najtrudniejszych okresów życia, jakie kiedykolwiek spędziłem jako Syn Stwórca. Wszystko, co widzicie, jeśli chodzi o początek i światy w ogóle, jest Moim stworzeniem i nie mogę was obrażać, ale wasza planeta prawie cuchnie błędem i grzesznym wyrzutem naszemu OJCU W NIEBIE. Pozwólcie, że coś wam teraz wyjaśnię”

„Ron nalega, żeby ludzie zrozumieli, co się stało. Cóż, przedstawia on litanię prawdy, ale pomija ogromne ilości tego, co zostało zrobione. Wie o wiele więcej, ale milczy również z powodów państwowych.

„Po pierwsze, nie podoba mi się, że ktoś mówi o tym bałaganie na Urantii, ale wykonał on świetną robotę, żeby poinformować was o niektórych szczegółach i w istocie w 1994 roku wpadłem na pomysł Misji na Urantii, ale od tego czasu znowu było tylko powstanie i zamierzałem to odłożyć dopóki nie będziemy mieli znowu przyzwoicie spokojnej Urantii. Potem oczywiście Rosjanie ustawili wózek i musiałem to teraz zaplanować od nowa, a na koniec Izrael rozpętał ostateczną wojnę na wyniszczenie, którą trudno oglądać tutaj, na boskich sferach Salwingtonu.

„Wreszcie, jestem pewien, że większość z was nic nie wie, ale Ron pomaga planować drobne poprawki, żeby rozpocząć te misje i nawet on jest rozczarowany wynikami. Najpierw doszło do powstania serafinów, potem dołączyli do nich Synowie Worondadekowie z tego wszechświata lokalnego, aż w końcu Ja, Syn Stwórca, powiedziałem dość i przybyłem na waszą planetę w tym tygodniu (w drugim i trzecim tygodniu kwietnia 2024 roku). Odkryłem, że organizacja planetarna Urantii znów całkowicie wymknęła się spod kontroli. Wróciłem spowrotem do układu gwiazd mojej głównej siedziby, skąd teraz mówię.

„Zostaliście poinformowani, że jest to typowa sprawa, ale tak nie jest i Ron po prostu informuje was o aktualnej sytuacji (23 kwietnia 2024 r.). Cieszę się, że mogę to puścić, ponieważ nie zdradza on żadnych tajemnic, o których wie więcej niż ktokolwiek inny, ale :

„Mówię »ale« z jednego ważnego powodu. Dziś jest 23 kwietnia i Ron jest poważnie chory i może nie przeżyć tego, co ma się wydarzyć, ale cokolwiek się stanie, jest gotowy do pracy z nami jako ostatni atrybut jego pobytu na planecie Urantii. Później dzisiaj złożę kilka oświadczeń, ale na razie niech to będzie nasza ostatnia nagroda dla wszystkich, którzy chcą wiedzieć, co się ostatnio działo ze Mną i moim Personelem. Pozdrowię was dzisiaj później na Lightline, nagraniu, które zrobimy jako taśmę dla wszystkich, jak zaplanowano na tej stronie internetowej o godz. 14:00 dzisiaj, 23 kwietnia. Miłego dnia.”


Tu Ron : Dałem niektórym z was wyobrażenie o tym, co się dzieje, ale tylko Syn Stwórca może zaprojektować misję, duchową Misję na planecie i nie możemy się doczekać, żeby go usłyszeć później dzisiaj na tej lightline.

„Kończę to przesłanie z nadzieją, że zachowam wystarczająco dużo zdrowia, żeby dołączyć do was na Urantii i zobaczyć, że sprawiedliwości stało się zadość i mam nadzieję, że będę w stanie zobaczyć więcej, gdziekolwiek zostanę wkrótce wysłany. Powodzenia i najlepsze życzenia dla was wszystkich.

Ron Besser, Fundacja Magisterska z jej własnością patentu na energię elektryczną, który na zawsze zmieni ten świat. Najlepsze życzenia dla wszystkich na razie.

KONIEC
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General Discussion / Re: THE CABAL: AND THE MIAMI MALL EXPERIMENT
« Last post by weydevu on Yesterday at 12:05:42 »
Thank you Elise for your comment but it's you and the rest of the crew who do the Voice of God transmissions are my source of inspiration, and thank you Occerpa for your comment. I try to be selective and eclectic in what I try to share, not that I'm in total agreement with all that I post because we are still in a Luciferian culture.  So, the people who post these topics don't have the advantage of having the revelations we have to gauge what they put out and I get that.  But the source of information is still valid to a point.

I thank you both and for the rest I thank you for your thoughts.

Weydevu
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General Discussion / Re: THE CABAL: AND THE MIAMI MALL EXPERIMENT
« Last post by occerpa on Yesterday at 10:05:21 »
Greetings Weydevu, here responding to your request on the topic of the presence of extraterrestrial visitors to our planet.  Just a few words with which, while I express my pleasure with your publications, I also tell you that at the moment (many years ago) that the matter stopped being fiction for me, I practically did not look any further to find out what new or new sightings are reported.  Here, luckily, we receive living evidence through songatsunrise of the Pleiadians.  Thanks for your posts.
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Good morning, Ron

Thank you for your post above because it opens the door for a question
that I had for quite a while. And I quote:

'' But every time the spiritual powers were ready to start something happened
to delay the entire mission to this planet.''

Some members of this Forum always get attacked by the cabal and Ron is 
their number one target. Every time they remove them, they always come
back.

1- Can the rebels be sent permanently to a different space area?

2- In the Mansion worlds when we start our ascension career are we
 getting attacked sometimes by the insurrectionists?

From the Creator Son I quote: 

'' I must not offend you, but your planet almost stinks with error and 
sinful reproach to our Father in Heaven...''

'' But since then there has been nothing but insurrection again and I am
going to put away until we have a decently peaceful Urantia again.''

Is it time now for a good demonstration to show who is really the Boss.
A lot of people on Urantia do not believe in God because they do not
feel God, they do not see God. Is it time for now to find a way to make
people think more about God, to make them believe that there is a God
in Heaven. 

I thank you again for the post above and may God bless you always.

Robert




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