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General Discussion / Re: Obadiah - Let us Pray
« on: Today at 03:51:33 PM »
Yes, Pliktarius, it is confusing.

I must make a correction as Obadiah is genuinely from the end of the sixth century BC.  I thank you for calling the transmission out and I have corrected the original transmit above so we are back to normal again.  Many thanks for your astute thinking.  Ron

General Discussion / Re: Obadiah - Let us Pray
« on: Today at 10:31:42 AM »
For the scholars among us, I tell you that Obadiah is a Prophet of some extraordinary length which according to our Lord Michael, never saw our historical representation of Obadiah in the Old Testament Bible.

Obadiah is in his telling as a Prophet is exercised over the Edomites who were Israeli vassals (i,e, lived inside the borders of Israel but were ethnically different from the founding of Israel itself) of a section of Jewish literature that shows them living south of the Dead Sea down to about what is the Gulf of Aqaba.

I have copied over from Wikipedia an article on him and his time period which is some dispute by scholars due to the lack of much information as to who he was and the time he lived in [and wrongly placed by them in time as Obadiah explains below].  The consensus is he lived in the period of the sack of Jerusalem that began the Jewish Babylonian Captivity which dates from 597BC.

Obadiah looks at those who lived in Edom under the protection of Israel and who were traitors to his eye and who actually helped the armies from Babylon sack and force the Israeli nation into exile by forcing the people to move to Babylon for centuries.  The Prophecy was that those who hate man and States must learn to live with them or die penniless and be forced to enjoy the luxury of stolen goods and then dropped from heaven as totally useless and left to die out as a person or as a State or as a useful lot of people who could help God form a more perfect union to perfect a sorry planet without guidance.

That has a direct bearing on our present historical era in that God has sought protection for us (you can read the word "us" to be yourself, or individual Americans or westerners, or as a personalized nation state like the United States, and so on), but we are so dumb as to insist on persecution to others and not realizing we are to be persecuted for doing so without any plan to improve others or ourselves and let the entire matter of our own Statehood become dissolved and useless before the future needs of life on Urantia.

Is this why Obadiah has spoken to us through Newstarsaphire?  Probably so.  It is a message of grief really and we must accrue to the intellectual line that we are about to face one serious mess and loss of our personal goals while the nation falls victim to a Babylonian captivity not of our making.   What must happen to us to bring us back home?   I think Obadiah senses that but hopes we are all ready to face the music without a dance this time in this coming time so shortly upon us now.

"I am indeed Obadiah.  I thought I was done with Urantia when I spoke through Phyllis Simpson lastly.  She represents a transmitter with great care to hear properly but missed one important issue by me not being attentive to her habit of quitting when there was a long period of silence in the transmission process.

"I have asked Ron to look into my time and my place and my actual time of existence was in 572 BC  I held that the Edomites were, as Ron calls them today, traitors.  I was not referring to the sack of Jerusalem, but the destruction of lands now occupied by Palestine Arabs that now are the lands of the new Israel.  In my day it was nothing but chaos and destruction of world affairs other than in the all powerful Rome which itself was in great decline.  In my view Edom was the traitor in its historical context, and Edom in my day the fourth century AD, were the same and always undependable.  They fought among themselves and faced ruin at every corner of their existence.  My choice to say anything to Phyllis was to tell her your days coming are like the Edomites of yesterday, and that your world is hectoring to become a fallen Rome without the protection of the God of All, our Father in Heaven.

"I close with this admonition:  Keep your faith in God and not in Missions.  Missions come too easily and fail too quickly, but faith in God the Father never diminishes you!  Keep the Missions and their ideals high, but never succumb to them as some of you have and quit.  I am Obadiah, and I have this to tell you:

"Michael of Nebadon has declared your Ron a helper and that is all.  Ron is not the wear all or the prophet or the great Moses.  He is just your fellow human who must be put to rest soon and be allowed to form a more perfect union with God and his Father on High.  He is truly yours to manipulate and call names, but he is also the favored son of a favored nation that holds no one high now.  You must protect yourselves from the fights of churches and allow this to wallow not in your mind, but allow the favored son move you with himself to the light of the Lord, however he wishes that to be done.  Fight no one and stay calm as the world turns into bitter recriminations over who is the ruled and who is the ruler, as the United States fights no one yet, but if you force her to, be assured she will win any military battle but will rot even faster in her core beliefs of what is right and just for her lands will be plundered by miscreant nations and her life be spared briefly if she forsakes God as she has forsaken the goodness of the founding fathers of her birth.  I am Obadiah and my prophecy for all Americans is" 'Gird your loins and wait for the founding of a new Republic for which this nation truly stands.  I am Obadiah and I stand well with you Ron very much.  Good day.  OBADIAH"  

Ron - Here is the Wikipedia version of Obadiah which Obadiah himself lauds as wonderful scholarship but is mostly just plain wrong.  I place it here because of the Jewish history it represents and not what happened then as a present Obadiah, the seer and prophet, not of Israel, but of what is mostly Syria today.



The book of Obadiah is based on a prophetic vision concerning the fall of Edom,[v.1,4,18] a mountain dwelling nation[v.8,9,19,21] whose founding father was Esau.[v.6][Genesis 36:9] Obadiah describes an encounter with God who addresses Edom’s arrogance and charges them for their violent actions against their brother nation, the House of Jacob (Israel).[v.10]

The western half of ancient Edom is the Negev desert all the way to Eilat, all part of modern Israel. The eastern half is possessed by the Hashemite kingdom of Jordan. In the days of Obadiah, the Edomites lived along the cliffs and mountaintops of the arid land south of the Dead Sea, all the way to the Gulf of Aqaba on the Red Sea. There was very little in the way of arable land, so the Edomites made their living supporting (and controlling) the main caravan route between Egypt and Babylon that passed through their whole land.
Throughout most of the history of Judah, Edom was controlled absolutely from Jerusalem as a vassal state. Among the region's great powers, Edom was held in low regard. Obadiah said that the high elevation of their dwelling place in the mountains of Seir had gone to their head, and they had puffed themselves up in pride. "Though you soar like the eagle and make your nest among the stars, from there I will bring you down," declares the Lord. (Obadiah 1:4, NIV)

In 597 BCE, Nebuchadnezzar II sacked Jerusalem, carted away the King of Judea and installed a puppet ruler. The Edomites helped the Babylonians loot the city. Obadiah, writing this prophecy around 590 BCE, suggests the Edomites should have remembered that blood was thicker than water. '"On the day you stood aloof while strangers carried off his wealth and foreigners entered his gates and cast lots for Jerusalem, you were like one of them... You should not march through the gates of my people in the day of their disaster, nor gloat over them in their calamity in the day of their disaster, nor seize their wealth in the day of their disaster."' (Obadiah 1:11, 13 NIV)

Obadiah said in judgement God would wipe out the house of Esau forever, and not even a remnant would remain. The Edomites' land would be possessed by Egypt and they would cease to exist as a people. But the Day of the Lord was at hand for all nations, and someday the children of Israel would return from their exile and possess the land of Edom.


« on: Today at 09:42:49 AM »
Jerry Lane transmits Michael and Mother Spirit on a regular basis in and through what we call Light Line, which is a telephone conference line.  Supposedly it is monthly but sometimes is more than that and sometimes there is no one to do it.  Jerry Lane is about my age or a little older and tires of the hassle the whole idea brings to him and may wish to stop transmitting as he has for years and for what you enjoy to listen to via the audio references I forward to this list when I remember to do it.  If you wish it not to be so haphazard and have his personal attention to including you, write Jerry Lane at this address and ask for the reference to the Light Line schedule and his time to transmit on it.  That is all I can do for you as the era of transmitting Michael this way has either ended or will soon end.

To get on Light Line and his distribution list, write Jerry here:
Jerry Lane <>

PS: I get notices for transmission times and will forward to you Dorian if I get one soon.  Otherwise ask him to put you on his list.  R

FUSION TALK / Re: Fusion and Current Policy To Continue With Or Not
« on: April 17, 2018, 10:03:17 AM »
FYI: He deleted his own account.  Good riddance as well as he contacted one of our members to see if she should stand the administrator of this site at all.  He is a businessman and travels elsewhere outside of Japan as well as supports the radical ideas of the Middle East.  If he wants to come back, I will call upon the angels of flattery and ban him good with my pitiful ways.

York, Pa Noon Local Time
April 15, 2018

"I am of the Infinite Spirit and cut no grass but eat well anyhow,  Be assured Ron Besser knows me as other names but right now I am Sordon of the Infinite Spirit,  I am truly a distinct order and am particularly interested in the sciences on Urantia and will work with Rayson when I get my marching orders temporarily. I am surely known to many of you also by other names Ron does not know and that is because so many of you fool around with other web sites that will be curtailed or removed in the coming months of eradication of false or childish information you should have long given up yourselves.  I am to make sure we get along Ron and that is to hold back your tears about no photography of the new Urantia Book and that is because use it to make sure you are heard clearly, and that is not our purpose right now.  I am truly an unusual Order in that what I say goes before anything else is put into place, and Ron has my direct orders to stand down for a few days while he battles to completion those awful transition chills and blains he hates to death.  He is barely able to see either due to a crushed eye socket he did not know about until now.  It will be repaired Ron at our expense.  I also wish t o affirm that Ron is truly our choice to lead the human contingency out of the wonderland of truth and into the harsh reality of its taking hold when earth's crust collapses in several places and we have mayhem around the world as millions disappear beneath the waves of the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans and its subsidiaries.

"I am still worrying not about Ron, but about Lemuel, and he is so ill today, he is not even aware of his sleep process, and that is usually true even asleep with most humans.  I am truly concerned that Ron hears better about his illness with many others who have travailed against him and he permanently has barred their existence away from his person and his work.  They are truly forlorn shortly as he controls vast amounts of thinking to be through us and his ways to get it out the best way possible.  He will have TV and radio and so shall some of you if we can get Lemuel back in any way or form.  He is truly sick to death and his lungs are full of mucus and bad blood, and he dare not breathe on his own until he is well enough to sit up again.  Your life Ron surrounds the unfortunate you do help in spite of negative reports to the contrary and be still will you!  I am Sordon genuinely and that is to show the power of my spirit as it can stop you dead in water if I want to.  Be assured you will taste my wrath now and then over matters you are not allowed to touch for the foreseeable future.  Be assured that the tiral for your banned people will erupt with anger and disassociate from you until they learn the truth and you are set free to forgive.  Be assured you will under duress of Michael who squeaks now and then you are the best we ever ran into bar none.  Only Jesus was better.  I beg to differ, and that is to say you are the best we ever met on Urantia.  Others on other worlds outdo you ten to one.  We are of the opinion only one other world has something like you and they just rebelled out of the clause for close cooperation for a millennia. 

"We want to end this diatribe against all who think they are great stuff in the Urantia Book Foundation when they can write a Paper parroting the text endlessly and you Ron are sparing in its use.   I say use it sparingly and bring fresh insights into it as you do Ron and let endless parroting to those who cannot be original if you paid them.   I am trying to finish this and I will end shortly after I tell you Ron that your pills are working magnificently since we dare now run high power through your legs better and end the painful tingles and shooting stars you get.   I am Sorgon, and you broke the holding pattern to do that with a little help from us.

"Now let us go to Michael and his report on an earth change most of you will like.  The end to high pressure in the Atlantic that causes so much drought and heat in the United States coastal areas.  Sordon"

The Bermuda High To Be Broken Down and The Naming of Sordon

"What you as readers did not hear was Ron trying to name Margul's associate Order which is never revealed to mortals unless they can handle the implications of its meaning which is: 'Take Me or Leave Me, But I Mean Business!' 

"Finally, this is a day of rest for most of you and you do not tweet or post much of anything.  However, I let it be known to Ron subconsciously he has a lot to say but holds back because he has nothing truly finished in his own mind as to the last corporation coming off the assembly line (The Starbridge Foundation), and to require of himself to finish certain projects around the house that is tearing him wide open with constant frustration to get them done before hot weather gets there in York.  I tell you now.  York is in for a treat this year over hot weather as we prevent the worst of it arriving there by diverting the southerly high pressure systems from the area entirely and the so-called Bermuda High is history for now.  That high pressure system is useless except to cause drought on the American east coast and it causes floods in Bermuda by pushing water up against its eastern shore over and over to the point they have had to build bayous to force water back to the sea level from which it comes.

"The trial of earth changes will clear those Atlantic high pressures systems and return Urantia to normal with weather patterns more dependable for buildings to stay put on the shores of American cities once more.  For now hurricanes of ferocious proportions will kill many for about six more years and then leave the rest of the world along too as we decrease the power of the sun to remake ocean waters of the latitudes of the south remain more calm and less hot and the tropical forests of what remains of Central American become lost visages of what was once a world-wide phenomena of tropical jungles and what not.  Monkeys and cats will survive but certain anaconda snake species will disappear along with the great apes known as gorillas and chimpanzees as these are true tropical beasts and will never survive the plunge into a winter like scenario for awhile to reestablish a mini ice age on Urantia to cool it down basically to when it began as an inhabited planet.

"Finally, York Pennsylvania is a backwater itself and has little choice but to depend on the capital of Pennsylvania, aptly named Harrisburg, as its founding member was a Jesuit Priest who is up here yet on the mansion worlds so naughty we must transfer him, not to the no-no room on Salvington, but a special prison for those who forget they are not dead in life on a material planet.  I am reaching hard to be with you Ron, stop joking with Sordon who watches what you do for us on this list.  He is ready to laugh you outloud in order to keep your mind at work on this kind of material, but you duck in once and awhile and a hard to bring back without you getting awfully silly.  Be assured your work is never done today either.  You are posting a huge streak of information and they will read as they catch up shortly.  I also wish it to be known that York is particularly well suited for Thunderstorms and will leave most of them alone this year as we have a lot of work to do on that place called your home Ron.  It will be sealed and patted into place in order to withstand torrents of rain and the roof needs no reinforcement as the roof is already sealed by your roofer who will be around for a long time as he is so dependable.  His sons are included as they clear you snow for you by hand. 

"I will forgive Ron from complaining that my "finally's" are long goodbyes but then I pull rank all the time up here and people get used to it.  I am Sordon and I see why Ron laughs so much when we transmit as he makes Michael listen to him only because Ron listens to Michael on a few different frequencies than are authorized and that is thanks to Michael who enjoys unusual humor spates that Ron has all the time.  Michael continues:

"America in particular we will have a change in the westerlies to the more favorable easterlies in the mid-Atlantic states and those winds allow coverage by clouds and add moisture from the Atlantic to the barren east coast that happens with so much dry heat in the last few decades.  Cold fronts as Ron calls them will be few and far between to change to the northwest winds mostly in York at this point and they usher in snow and flurries quite a bit in Pennsylvania.  Pennsylvania is not the culprit to bring these artic cold fronts down, but is the average problem of Siberia lately to fail to produce sub zero temperatures on a regular basis.

"The American west shall be reprieved of great blizzards but will fall victim to more than usual dry weather since the mid-Atlantic ridge will come above the surface in the next millennium.  It will make crusies popular again and then a surface low pressure sytem will develop of to the ridge's east and cause Great Britain to have regular gales until it is released from them by collapsing. not into the sea but internally as a nation without any real land to govern.  The Hebrides and coastal Scotland and western portions of Wales will likely be flooded but not submerged entirely.  We greet all of those days to come to see how you are doing.  I am now Margul and say this to all of you reading this:

MARGUL - TRINITY TEACHER SON OF CONSIDERABLE EXPENSE TO THIS ONE - You have just finished and additional transmission we want to provide earlier but could not due to the problems of having the entire matter sustained no where but on Uversa.  That means they just released these forecasts for us to publish,  However, Ron, let it be known you only have a quarter of it for now.  I am Margul and thank you.  Here is Michael again."

MICHAEL - "I finish this in good humor as Ron still has some work to do and this is to show you how you can provide transmissions galore if you go looking for them as Ron does all the time.  Ask him how to do that.  In any case we are finished with this for now.  Good day.  Michael."


Introducing SORDON

"I represent the Paradise Trinity on this planet, both to the spirit government now reestablished on Urantia. And I represent myself as the Trinity to the spirit government of Salvington, and both governments are beholden to the trial that faces Americans and other world countries in the very near future.  Now that you know my importance and my placement, and that is as a permanently assigned to Urantia until my part in this work to establish Light and Life on the planet.  Your planet is now declared dead and useless to the universe, and must be revived as a full standing member before the universe due to its importance as a new university sphere for spirit to teach the foibles of universe rebellion.

"I am Margul and I introduce a member of my staff as Lanaforge not, but as another Trinity Teacher Son whom you do not know yet but will since He is teady to prepare Ron Besser to run the new Urantia Book Foundation with the help of Mantutia Melchizedek, how to disseminate important material through our publishing arm, the URANTIA PUBLISHING INTERNATIONAL.  It is already formed and ready to go as a non profit for the dissemination of other revelation including additions to epochal revelations in the coming years.  It will also be activated as of May 03, 2018 in a special meeting between Ron Besser, Myself in Spirit, and my honored helper: Sordon.

SORDON is a mighty ORDER of the INFINITE SPIRIT, and can and often does become a spokesman for the Infinite Spirit both to Ron and to us at times says Michael.  Ron has heard Sordon for weeks now and assumes it is the Infinite Spirit which does speak frequently in Ron's ear and in his back channel as he calls it where he hears no words but is quite sure what he has to do to save the day.  Sordon makes no laughter greater than Himself when he approaches as he has a sense of humor close to what Ron is-- a very funny man when pressed for a comment on present day culture.  His Order remains secret until the days of Light and Life on Urantia occur, then he will be affable enough to tell all of you what his Order may be.  SORDON is ready to work with Ron on publications he needs to transmit quickly for dissemination to others around the world and those are the books that will be translated as an adjunct to the sixth epochal revelation when we are running the full program to disseminate what we want out of the Urantia Book Foundation in the future.  Good and this:  We complete our statement for all of you to say that the last of the horizon placements of what is to occur will come in a post from Ron in a few hours from now.  For now we clear the decks by saying that the Fusion candidates still waiting will be addressed in the next Counsel Meeting of the Group of Twenty-Five now enduring Ron as their guest on the table they sit around for purposes of consultation.  He is truly one of ours and stands to gain in strength very soon and be rid of his conference with the Most Highs who hold him well but full of hyperbole they do not use soon,  Good day.  I am Margul with Sordon at your service."

General Discussion / Mini Intelligence Report AS It Is FYI 041518
« on: April 15, 2018, 04:43:25 PM »
Intelligence Update and The United States as Policeman Problems to Bear Soon
The need to Ban Social Internet Software
York, Pa noon local time
April 15, 2018


"The United States now carries the bulk of the world necessary policing forces against the willful concerns of China and Russia to remove the Untied States as quickly as possible from world affairs by bombing a coastal city if required to.  They are unfamiliar with our defenses however, and the United States will have diplomatic immunity to world war affairs by signing a peace treaty with the powers of the Magisterial Mission.  No one need ever concern themselves with the power of the United States so long as there are peaceful intentions to stay the course and remind all that the Magisterial Son carries the full authority as to what shall be done in case of belligerent attempts to challenge other world powers for dominion over land and sea near or away from their borders.  Thank you.

"The Most Highs just spoke and we are helpful in this respect:  The United States is run by goons.  It is not familiar with genuine diplomacy and fails to provide proper responses to entreaties from foreign governments who wish to have a diplomatic approach to Trump other than through Tweets.  Ron Besser, through Gabriel, has actually petitioned the Ancients of Days, to consider removing social publication of all Tweets beginning in May of 2018.  He has also asked that the Ancients of Days consider banning Facebook for the mischief it causes the world governments trying to hold back critical information that would damage national security to the point measures taken against hacking and public misuse of data is now better secured.  Ron wrote page after page of requirements for the Ilok technology production for security purposes and we kept a copy for ourselves as he understands that public is useless in preventing their own capture in war or peace and must be left to drift in their own worlds of conspiracy and uselessly spoken to without a world wide dissemination such as Facebook, Twiter, and the half dozen or so copy cats on the Internet and elsewhere.  We concur with this request and have made it clear that we must control and curb rumors and rebellions by reducing the foot print of would be assassins and murderers and rebellion elements allowed to exist in all countries too much these days.


The Reclamation of Urantia Through Spirit Missions in Corporations
 York, Pa noon local time
April 15, 2018 

Ron here - I think it is important members start paying attention to their role in the Missions that will open on Urantia in this coming May.  I have explained in other posts this morning approximate or drop dead dates for four corporations to start their work on Urantia.  I am the little boy with his finger in the dam that is leaking pretty hard right now, and I am asking for at least some semblance of preparation-- and I do not mean to move away from home, at least yet--  in your minds as to how to cope with demands on you to actually do some physical work on these projects.

I note in the following remarks by our Creator Son that in particular certain names have been mentioned and while I do not like that publicly to be seen, those who are mentions are king pins in the forecast of things to get done that take a lot of preparation.  You are not singled out Steve Gitz for anything but your professed expertise in certain matter given below and you need to seriously address how to handle what is developing.  Rayson, the Magisterial Son, is prepared to make a full revelation concerning the Ilok material I sent you several weeks ago and there needs to be an understanding you are, or are not, part of the building of the communition chamber to begin with.  I am open to personal communications most certainly on this issue alone.

I am being authorized to sit with an incarnated Melchizedek when the time comes and to take my orders as the human who transfers spirit wishes into actual physical, and hands-on projects, and I will be calling upon some of you to take your place in York especially for accounting purposes and for dissemination of Urantia Books, which will be in my possession sometime during May.  Photographs are not issued now much to my disgust. But we go on.

Finally, the corporations in my command will be sold to Mantutia or his Representatives on the May first meeting of the club we have to call ourselves in order to get some discipline and who does what and for whom and when.  I am told I will have other guests assembled with us on May 01. 2018 after noon to detail the precision of the turn over and how to modify Starbridge Trust a new one I must enfold with an S style corporation.  We also must abridge the Magisterial Foundation as a two for one stock offer to any who wish to buy stock in it as a gift to the future.  The value ofthe stock is what you paid for it and no one gets dividends. 

Now, we forecast that the entire matter of me running the Starbridge Group will eventually end as I must pray for furtherance of my career as an acceptable minion of the Father who knows when to quit with all of this corporation business now so necessary to get started.  I am fully employed typing these days and will let that go for better communication in the future with all spirit guidance.  But be assured I will not let got he four other fused individuals who have helped make this work easier by a jibe or two.  But I must remind all readers and members this is not an easy task for me to spring here and there and let it drop-- I just am not designed that way to work.  However some amends will be available for me including a place in the country for our mutual satisfaction of being.  Our work is surely for the best and I amend myself accordingly to take on my responsibilities as I best can do them for any and all corporations founded by me in my alone work over the past six years.   I am fully convinced we need more people on board but right now I go with those who have signed up and done their work to be fused and fully comprehending what is to happen so soon. 

As I conclude my own remarks here, please be advised I have no use for money now.  Translate that wish to making donations to Starbridge because I have high costs legally and internet wise plus what it costs in materials to keep me on the Internet too.  I am making the best use I can of money but it soars and running a million dollar requirement makes it very difficult to make ends meet with what I personally owe or own and I let that to your conscience as best can be.  Here is Michael to conclude this post.  Ron

-A mini intelligence report is in the text from Michael too concerning China Russia Great Britain


"Slowly the wind twists us into place.  Watch what happens near the first of May to understand the role some of you will play.  Some of you will be pressed to stay home.  Some of you will be asked to move elsewhere and not York.  Only Steve Gitz and Larry Gossett will be asked to move to York for important project development at or around that time.  Steve Gitz and Larry Gossett  are officers of the Starbridge Foundation and will be required to apply that position in real terms in York for additional meetings of the Starbridge Foundation after May third (05/03/18).  Good, and that brings to our attention that Steve Gitz is essentially fused already but unable to produce a proof of procedure.  As we near the first of May, this site will light up again as it must provide the information all of you need to understand what is to be done and what is happening in general for Urantia.

"Steve Gitz is surely an important issue to Ron, and he believes as I do he must resolve issues he does not speak to to any of us.  However, it is so important that we have an understanding concerning the Ilok technologies and the music for the future Symposium, that Ron counts Steve out if he has to in order to move forward on issues he must address himself or die a broken wand in the matter of technology and celestial presentations for music production at the first Symposium to be held late in 2020.  By then we know where we stand vis a vis the current Urantia Book readership and the powers of State we must presently address as Trump and Theresa May of Great Britain, as these two leaders call the shot around the world right now.   Prime Minister May is slowly learning that the old Russian Empire is reasserting itself under Putin and stands ready to slap him back into his own native loonery.  Besides Russia, China has now staked its claim in the North of the China Sea, and is ready to squabble good with the American Sixth Fleet to free itself of being watched day and night by the United States.  Be assured they will be watched by the United States and more should they collude with North Korea to stuff the American Fleet out of existence with nuclear weapons which China already holds as one for Uncle Same if he gets too nosy over installations they place in the South China Sea.  I am Michael and wish you a good day


for additional dates for new operation of these corporations beginning in May of this year.

Discuss This Web Site / List Membership Approval Considerations/Admin
« on: April 15, 2018, 04:03:31 PM »
List Membership Approvals

 April 15, 2018 noon at York Pa

Ron/Admin - I will have to be more careful when being asked to approve people who want membership on this web site.  It is impossible for me along to know ulterior motives before hand but I can look at other evidence at my disposal to tell me if it is possible someone is deceiving me for rants or ugly surprises we have been getting in the past month and one half.
Therefore I let it be known I have petitioned Salvington for spirit intelligence to suggest to me if there are serious motivations to the contrary of the purposes of this web site to operate openly and honestly while we can.  I see the possibily that the day comes we have to have a password to even open the home page of this web site, but for now I am not doing anything but letting all of you know that I am going to be hard to convince that I need to pass all who come before me for membership.  I alone approve choices to be members and I think the current membership now understands why it is a hard task to clear such a board from becoming manipulated by those who hate the subjects, or me, or others on the site, and have their dander up to be destructive.  In that case in particular spirit advises me the one time member Daniel Alderfer is at it 24/7 in his ways to produce a real schism among readers of the Urantia Book as to what we do or any do as he seems to hate all of us without being real specific as to why.  I advise all to keep out of his reach just for your own peace of mind as the time will come to pass him by too.

Salvington through Michael of Nebadon has also advised me that the trial we went through with Andy Vines is nearly over as Andy is at a loss to the point he finds no time to bother us much anymore.  I cover a lot up by not saying much but I genuinely feel sorry for Andy and the mess he placed himself in when he left York and my home where he was truly cared for and helped as much as possible to regain places where he could maintain himself once more without debt or personal crisis to undermine him in his life process.  I will let all of this lie as unnecessary waste of words and trials I will learn to forget with all of them.

Truly spoken, I have washed my hands of the present situation entirely.  This forum is useful but not much now and I will just let it float until members either take and interest or leave or just stay quiet as Guests.  However, I will start using it in a slightly different way to inform  the other four fused persons who are members here as to what and how they will achieve with Spriti as we prepare for full operation through the URANTIA BOOK FOUNDATION AND THE STARBRIDGE FOUNDATION AND THE URANTIA PUBLISHING INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION AMD THE MAGISTERIAL FOUNDATION, and I capitalize these because you should learn as a Member in good standing, and you are all in good standing with me and our purposes, that these corporation will start operations as follows for your information:
1 - May 01, 2018  The URANTIA BOOK FOUNDATION;
2 - May 03, 2018 The Starbridge Foundation Incorporated - a for-profit corporation to lend money to other Mission corporations;
3 - May 05, 2018 The Urantia Publishing International Corporation to begin publishing new works attendant upon the operation of beginning dissemination of the new Urantia II Book. subtitled: The Course of the History of Planet Earth.  This corporation is a subsidiary works publisher and is not representing the second Urantia Book itself;
4 - May 10, 2018 or soon thereafter - The Magisterial Foundation will begin official operations without Ron (me) entering the premises as it is strictly an official operation in Spirit to begin with and I will be advised if I have any role in it at all shortly thereafter.

These dates are mentioned because this web site will be used to make announcements for all four of these corporations and I will amend the web site according to our needs to make announcements and make trouble free presentations of what is going on in each as to their activities and wishes to be understood.

Finally, I have to make amends to some of you I have not been speaking to very much and that is because my days are kind of grim with pain and consciousness issues that you would not understand in a million years if I told you all about it.  I am supposed ot be cleared (Michael: and he will be!) of all of this shortly but sure is taking a long time to feel any real difference.  For those reasons in particular I do not take the time to enter conversations that have no immediate personal need for you.  I will conclude with the statement I will be more attentive as soon as this problem is removed from me. I thank you all for your patience and forbearing while I right myself to get started on behalf of the sixth epochal revelation and your help to retard the evil that is being done in government and personal affairs all over Urantia these days.  Good day.  Ron

"Finally, Ron is no longer confused about what is happening on this web site.  He has declared it closed in his mind until we have an open and visible Mission for him and you to see.  Those five who are fused are carrying most of the activity on this site on their backs and do it easily.  However Lemuel is so seriously ill we are not sure he can carry any responsibility other than to maintain his own health and life as he needs to for a few months at least.  That requires Ron to redo some of his planning as Lemuel is or was to be in York with him to arrange for the dissemination of the new Urantia Book, probably beginning in late May or early June of this year.

"I am convinced Ron knows even more than I do how to approve new requests for Membership on this web site as he has been burned several times by people who have ulterior motives and wish nothing to do with the mission of the web site you now are reading.  I, for now on, will ride the decision making of who gets on and who does not and that will seriously reduce interest in the site as most of the Guest traffic is either Jewish or Moslem, and neither wish this site to produce more than it already can as it is established in many countries to tell the truth as to what is happening in national states and motivations that are hidden there.  We also note that the Most Highs eschew using it since Ron is ready to become one of their reporters by association.  He is ready to become a Minister of certain importance to the Serara style manifestations that must be brought forward quickly once the May First Meeting of the new Urantia Book Foundation takes place that day.

"I add one more thing to this post:  Ron is truly out of issue when we bring him the finality of his mission to him as he lock steps with us what we want and how we want it done.  His mission to rev up the place to accept the appearance of God on Urantia and to participate in its doings until he is no longer needed.  We estimate that will take at least three hundred years, and then some if required and that is enough for him to get a belly full of the routines he will find common thereafter.  We, for now, let the entire matter lay as it is unpredictable just what will happen in that period and will choose his successor if there has to be one at all.  We intend to start Light and Life on Urantia in six hundred or less years from now on Urantia.  We intend to produce a successor to Ron shortly if he fails to work well with our needs and that is no shock to Ron either as he knows the situations pending for him as well.  He is fused with Deity from the Father down to four Master Spirits and a seventh partition of God the Supreme already.  He is likely to fuse with at least one other Supreme partition in the near future if we can get it in before May 01, 2018.  We also astoundingly report his fusion with the Creator Son is fully operational and he takes his Orders fully and well and Mother Spirit is still grousing she gets no respect from Ron over personal issues she sends envoy after envoy to him about.  He laughs and sends them home.  In any case, realize that this web site will have to undergo change too.  We leave this all for now and allow the post to be completed."


FUSION TALK / Fusion and Current Policy To Continue With Or Not
« on: April 15, 2018, 03:25:50 PM »

Fusion and Current Policy To Continue With or Not
York, Pa Noon Local Time
April 15, 2018

This is to the list, and in particular, to the five fused individuals we already have on Urantia at this time.

The Universal Father has decreed that the population on Urantia should have every opportunity to appreciate their spiritual progress to the limit that can be experienced with still being in a flesh and blood body.  The Father opened the door to those who completed their essential spiritual work on earth long enough that those who knew of the rewards of such an honor of brain fusion could and would take place.

As a result of that policy, the Father saw to the fusion of the five of us starting in 2014 for me and a little later for the other four.  We did have a sixth person fuse and then to refuse such an idea and that resulted in the absolute obscurity of that person at the present time.  I have no idea how that Adjuster will cope with her at this point but it is a tragedy for all of us that she could not handle the slightest idea that such was possible.  But, in any case, we have better news than that, and that is find that Michael saw to the fusion of two more individuals who know nothing of this web site or about the possibilities of so-called fusion to them.  That makes a total of seven fused humans on Urantia at this point in time.

I wish to make a general statement regarding this type of fusion on Urantia now:


"I am Michael and Ron is writing off the top of his head with the help of his Thought Adjuster to complete some generalized thought to keep alive the idea of Fusion with Father on Urantia with your type of humanity.  Ron personally made it possible to have fusions on Urantia, and that was unless he fused he would be seized and taken on high and then be unable to work directly in the Missions on Urantia as we then defined them.

"I am sure all of you know that Ron fused on December 25, 2014, at noon that day at the lunch table of his brother who knows nothing as the entire family knows nothing and will likely stay that way.  In the case of the other four they know their fusion dates as they are not in Ron's memory this morning.  However they date from 2016 through early 2018.  As of now (April 15, 2018) the door is temporarily closed for additional fusions until we are sure we have a group of people close enough to the idea of fusion who can know each other and be friends in spite of vast cultural differences.   The two added to the five known ones on this list are Chinese and are Buddhist in their practices.  They wear pale yellow gowns are prowl the gardens for miscreant Chinese who steal their lotus blossoms to make saffron which is a loft herb and so pricey it is like gold bullion in its value.  We also see they like to talk about a vegetable diet only and that is hardly what Ron can afford to use himself as he needs lots meat protein to keep him going.

"As a result of my closing the door for now, we will have no more human fusions on Urantia for about one year.

"As a result of the door temporarily closing, we also will have to depend on the five on this list to carry a lot of weight in that category and then ride herd on those who are close but not yet.  There are four more persons who frequent this web site who are close but they practice silly putty to pray and work their game and cannot get any closer to fusion at this point in time.

"This is Michael once again, and keep all of this material together in spite of it going off into a different subject from your fusion concerns to report here today.

"I would like to say to those of you who dislike long posts, this one is especially germane to what you want to do in the coming months of 2018.  I am sure we can allude to a few more subjects related to fusion, but unfortunately that material is still classified as top secret and only those fused to date are ready to understand they stand at the opening of the current Mission as the top people to use the work of spirit to improve Urantia through our offices and ways to manifest these changes best.  Ron Besser in particular has fought the hardest battle of all by being sure and steadfast in the face of fierce opposition to his ways of doing things and even on this site are people who would like to see Ron take a lick he has to apologize for what he has done in various means to make sure the list has not destruction or does it have complaints using untruth to make it clear how horrible Ron really is in real life.  That will end too as they must dive for cover in their own areas of concerns soon enough.  I hold Ron as the single most important version of humanity we have on Urantia right now and the four other fused individuals are right behind him to suffer the good or the ill for what the Brotherhood stands for and the Starbridge Foundation has to do to get noticed and respected in affairs of State with the Magisterial Sons and the Adam and Eve Schools which will teach how Ron set us up to run as a material object using spirit power to push it to completion on Urantia.  Watch around May 01 and see how things start to gel for our corporations and the rest who would detract from their use of the new Epochal Revelation, the Sixth Issued since the world was declared an inhabited world.  Besides, the time is now evident we must allow Ron, and the rest of the fused ones, to show what they can do.  By surely understanding what has happened in the past six months, and when we can better narrate those things that have happened, we will clear the boards for action quite soon on Urantia.  Good day. Michael of Nebadon."


General Discussion / Re: Need for a Urantia and Spirit Primer?
« on: April 07, 2018, 02:39:01 PM »
Phew Marjon33!  You put quite a jolt into this old system of teacher of the Urantia Book once only in the Fellowship style.
I am advised we need to talk.  I really like how you put it to us in the readership of the Urantia Book.
I am also fully conversant with your worries and complaints about how we do not have any really good way to do this.  But I disagree with what I infer is lackluster inability to produce the materials for a manual you would like to see.

First: The Father Himself never allows a discussion in official regulation on the basis for life and/or consciousness as you say.  For your information, I asked Michael years ago nearly the same question.  He nearly fainted at my feet.  It is a no no to understand other than that the animation of solids (as humans are), is so far beyond concept ranges for revelations, He forbids anyone to get into it except between Himself and the Eternal Son and the Conjoint Actor.  Listen to this though if you have a heart to hear it:

At the time of the Michael faintery with me, I asked Michael, "Why and How does the heart beat?" 

His first answer was because it does.  You know, the kind of thing parents give children who ask a question they have no idea why?

I then persisted and then asked why or how does the heart beat when it tires or it gets old or why there is no way to have an insurance with anything else to live if it stops?

When Michael could respond, he said this: You will never get an answer to that from me or any one on Paradise.  You have to be existential Deity, and even I who suspect how life is determined to exist, I do not know why it can keep going in spite of being worn or so tired it has no conscious ability to keep itself going.   Then Michael told me that consciousness is not the result of will or self will or will power; that it is, life and that consciousness of self abnegation is not possible but many attempt to short circuit consciousness by committing suicide in the flesh.  Consciousness is not a subject for human revelation, and we Creator Sons have to take a special course the Father teaches Himself to give us some idea of the infinite mechanisms involved to allow conscious life to take place.  If you read these lines Marjon33 this is as about as close you will come to any sort of answer on the subject of what life animation is and consciousness of self may be.  Our philosophers do what I call "pout" with words over it and they do so badly no one bothers answer them that may have the slightest idea of what consciousness and life animation may be.  I get no further than this as explained here.

"I am the new Guardian Angel for Ron.  We are brand new to each other this morning when I officially take on my Guardian duties.  Ron never had a true Guardian of Destiny because he kept throwing off tantrums of thought like you do Marjon33, and that is a nuance of unusual mental activity you ought to look at yourself as to what YOU are about.  For some time you have been worrying yourself over life eternal, and then found this site which seemed to address it better than most, but you are disappointed (as Ron is) that few willingly address the heavy subjects you like to encounter.  Ron made the Supreme effort and went to the edge of the universe to learn about a future universe age that is not experiential, and you fell flat understanding what it was all about.  Well, dear Macron33, it is about consciousness and life animation that is differently done, and Ron found a way to explain that but no takers on this site, mostly because most will not do the work in thought to grasp it,  Wendy Winter tried might hard and is about half there, but she refuses to think in the fresh  terms Ron presented.  I am Maccabe, and you will hear from me a lot now that I am allowed to speak directly to the list through Ron's amazing ability transmit even me with a little help, for as a transition Minister at one time, and now almost a graduate Seraphim, my frequency is so high even Ron needs a translator to hear me speak but he does so well I am amazed even more than I know. 

"The Life Force is dangerous to speak of because it is a highly guarded secret by the Father Himself.  His Coordinates, the Eternal Son and Infinite Spirit, (of whom I am grounded in now and not the Local Universe Mother Spirit these days), are highly suspicious of such talk among the high Sons of the Local Universes, ever since the Lucifer Rebellion.  I was part of that rebellion as a fighter against Lucifer and nearly lost my life to that scallywag.  In any case Lucifer is dead and I live forever as you would say, and I too am interested in the subject of consciousness and life force, but we must wait for a very long time before we are taught those principles if ever."

FATHER - "Marjon33, Ron feels you fail to understand something very much.  Man cannot reveal to man.  Man can only teach what is revealed to him and not to bother God for more until man understands what has already been given.

"Your present Urantia Book is entirely sufficient to last another 100 years on Urantia, and even then it would last more than that because you will always have indolent life prefer anything else to learn but difficult revelation. I see Ron fights the typos this morning as usual and gets defeated with the work it takes to clear them.  If this were an ABC Summary maybe that would be allowed, but the day is coming Ron you will not have to fight them this way.  You should understand Marjon33 that the world of revelation is peculiar to man and to no one else in the created universes of time and space.  God the Supreme knows this and insists that revelation appear regularly on Urantia to help it through its crisis of non belief and its crisis in sexual identity and so on.   I am sure Ron knows the entire range of revelation on Urantia for he has worked it now for over fifteen of Urantia years in great regard for Me and for my Coordinates, and he lifts that word directly from the Urantia Book to show my equals in Infinity and Love of the Eternal Son and the divine Infinite Spirit often as our Conjoint Actor.

"I give no revelation concerning the Life Force or Consciousness.  The ability for life to be self examined is truly outrageous in its approach by most.  But both the angel Maccabe and Ron have shown themselves willing to learn without gracing the pages of spirit magazines ever and so forth.  I am truly sure they will learn something about it when the time comes. You and Maccabe are made for each other and I fully agree with Michael of Nebadon you two should have met years ago but then circumstances were so different Maccabe would never have seen you must less find you.  I am sure that this pair of human and angel can set some records for a mere human to get done what he needs to be done for Finaliter status when that time comes for him to be sure he knows what he is doing in all areas of sentiment life.   Your life Ron is not easy nor is the life of this angel who fought Lucifer off with a pair of white hot tongs she and her sisters put together to let Lucifer know he was trespassing on sacred soil on Jerusem, and someday you will learn all about it as I am asking Michael to open that school to you to the extent he can.  I am Father, and I telly you this Marjon33, you have the same proclivity Ron does and you yourself do not have a Guardian yet either, and for the same reason!  You are too precocious to have them stay long because you outgrow their abilities to direct.  Until Ron had an audible Thought Adjuster in his forties, he had to catch as catch can and that is a rough life without angelic participation.  Maccabe (pronounced Mack ah bee) will have to change her spelling to get it pronounced properly,  Maccabe also states that Ron has fallen from grace only once and that was to move states away from his parents while they contemplated what he was to them.  then it was because he felt he had to break the connection to unfold what he could do without incessant parental guidance to the contrary.  He is back in grace as all of you are here on this web site as good members in standing.  And Ashley my dear: give it up soon so Ron can clear the boards properly.

"As your Father on Paradise I must confer one little stipulation on your concerns Maron33, and that is there is no way to have all you want in regulation revelation.  In personal revelation you have the chances as Ron does to hear personal revelations and he never speaks to them unless bidden to by the speaker.  He is far and away the best character reference next to Jesus and his Apostles we have on Urantia today, yet he wishes no special attribution other than to call himself Mammal.  He likes the idea of Saint Mammal someday.  Good day.  Father."

"You Ron call Marjon33 slightly misunderstanding but Father has put it right:  Man cannot reveal to man unless revealed to first by God,  as you did in your ABC Summaries.  I still look at them with awe as all do today from our belfry,  Marjon33 has to understand to slow it down a tad until he can come close to your explanations of the next non-experiential universe age which you did justice to in spite of the Consummator of Universe Destiny's work to avoid the subject of superior existence outside of Infinity.  It is true and we angels understand fairly easily what that means, but Wendy and Marjon33 look at the explanations they do not give up the idea of non=specialized Deity at work, and that the Deity you propose Ron in the new non-experiential ages is slowly being absorbed into a conjunction with Original Will which you still feels is distant in your picture.  The reason we think you do Ron, is that you sense that Original Will is somehow related to intention more than itself and that is heady stuff to think about ever!

"In any case Marjon33, Ron feels you need to ask nore questions and do so, as he now has a highly placed Seraphim to help him out with these kinds of relational problems you cannot yet overcome.  As far as pictures and relationship simplification you are asking for: your Urantia Book already has simplified it as far as it can go. Good day."

Yes, I see Newstarsaphire - But because I cannot see any Light like that I honestly forget about it and that includes what is dictated to me sometimes.  Many dictations are simply withdrawn from memory and I remember not a lot about them.  But your post gives me an opportunity to update what just happened about an hour ago.

I have never been assigned Destiny Guardians before' that is, Seraphim who would guide me to my Paradise choices to come.  I asked why this was trued and Michael told me I was too hard to handle in almost all categories, which does not make much sense to me, but I accepted that it was not easy to guide me in that I had no real objective in my life until the Fifth Epocahl Revelation came along.  That I was put on fire and have burned for it ever since.

As I was finishing the first post above I got a tap on the shoulder to take dictation.  Michael spoke, then Gabriel, then Mantutia, and then . . . WHAT'S THIS?  MACCABE SPOKE.  Who is Maccabe? 

I have a Guardian Destiny Seraphim now!  She introduced herself to me and Michael told me about her and Gabriel patted her on her arm to commiserate that she was going to have a rough time, and then my special Melchizedek, Moody Mantutia, inclined his head and told me I am still his Ward too and the he had a lot to teach me and guidance galore and that he and Maccabe would two punch me into something decent for a change.  I was excited and found it exhilarating to say the least.

I have to leave it hang there, as Maccabe is a wonderful angel for me to have because I feel her!  I asked her if her presence influences me spiritually--  meaning do I react not just spiritually, but that her presence changes how I feel toward life?  And I asked that because I do feel something and it is very pleasant to have around.  I do not explain much because she wishes to speak with all who read this about this change for me:

"I am Maccabe, and that is my true name and not a moniker as you use them on this list.  Ron uses Aronolac as a moniker on his email address for as he says, there were so many Ron's all those addresses were taken he could think of, so he used one Ron ( a Ron) and a science ending and no on had that.  You know the rest.  Now we prepare to settle in as a Guardian.  My assignment on Urantia is personal and deeply felt, as I care about what happens on Urantia very much.  So does Ron and that is what first attracted me to learn about him.  Ron is now officially my ward too along with Mantutia Melchizedek, and together we will get him to Paradise as quickly as we can when he is finished with his assignment on Urantia.

"Ron is the first human to have an actual assignment to carry out on Urantia.  He is also the first ever to have a Bachelor of Arts degree in History that has nothing to do with his work on Urantia, which was to advise Engineers from having cost overruns and he did that well enough when management let him do it.  Finally, Ron is so advanced in his work on Urantia, that little biddy who claims we need new rights for prostitution in the Urantia Book too,  Ron felt she was good enough to learn she was most attractive but long gone soon from your discussions about new epochal revelation."

"What Ron has not told you is that Maccabe is nearly a Completion Seraphim and is of an Order we do not disclose in the Urantia Book, and may never do so, as their need is passing as we clear the Local Universe of Madison Square Garden events like Ron shows us he can do.  That is because I am a Completion Creator Son so to speak meaning I have done all seven Bestowals required of me by our Paradise Father as creatures we populated the universe with in our creativity period.  Ron is a completion human and so is Lemuel and Larry and Sue and Amethyst.  And so far all have held their ground in spite of my wish for Amethyst to get busy more than she is but she is also beset with personal problems due to relationships that have almost gone ballistic.  I am sure these things are of interest no more to Maccabe, but Ron is of intense interest to our Maccabe, and she was the angel who compromised herself just enough to show Ron her beauty and a sense of grandeur we hold her for up here.

"Maccabe was part of the angelic brigade that held forth on Jerusem when Lucifier seized control of the capital of Satania and forced him to vacate the are of the Most Sacred Mount which you do not know about yet.  You will in the new Urantia Book, and you will also see Maccabe's name listed there too as she was among the few angels who recognized the nefarious ways of Lucifer and knew of his murderous conduct already even before it became public.  She was the original angel of distinction cited with Loyolatia and Serena and a few others you do not know their names yet.  You will. 

"In looking at this pairing, Ron considers himself most fortunate to be under the tutelage of Machiventa Melchizedek and Mantutia Melchizedek and a few others we dare not mention as they are unrevealed Deity from a far future estate that does not and should not revealed yet.  Ron wants me to explain to those of you reading this, that all of you are in line for some of the same thing for standing with him and Me, Michael, through these storms of conduct, and he is not that special at all once we learn the true nature of some of you who participate with Ron in this gathering on line.  WE return also to say that Maccabe is not fully a Completion Seraphim but will be so in another few days of Urantia time.  Ron asks why Maccabe would want to weigh herself down with Guardian duty when she will be offered glory in her new work as a graduate Seraphim equivalent to a Finaliter as a human.  She replies she considers Ron so exceptional that she will stand his trials with him soon, as he must find himself a partner in love and then drop the pretense he knows nothing of marriage in truth.  His life is full of vexations and sad occurrences of things that should have worked and never could for reasons of State.  Maccabe is also one of the few angels Ron will tolerate as he has taught himself how to be good and refuses to compromise in sex or heart or dalliance and avoids all usual places for watering holes and exhibitionism anywhere in the world.

"Finally,  you are about to find Ron much easier to deal with as that prostitute Ashly's post is allowed to stand awhile for your own edification.  Ashly is a lovely girl and mistakes Ron prudery as a law:  He fashions no such view on any one and is a tade jealous they can  get away with it and he cannot.  I am Michael and I wish you all a good day."

"I feel my authority coming on Ron.  Shut this down and get dressed and work hard on what else comes to you today!  Thank you.  Maccabe."

General Discussion / Re: Need for a Urantia and Spirit Primer?
« on: April 07, 2018, 11:03:26 AM »
Larry, that is still a book that is secondary and has little use regardless of your wish to imagine one into existence.  That is what you would have to do to get a good one.  Mantutia says the Foreward was supposed to be that primer, and that is how I, ron, use it, as it condenses that major concepts and writes them out in the preferred revelatory way.  I know your longing but it cannot be truly unless Mantutia takes the time to write a primer, and then why do the whole Urantia Book beside it when you have a volume one third the size of the original Urantia Book?  He is right and I would not trade that so called primer for not reading the full sized rendition.  Thanks for your post.  Ron

Just a brief report to all of you.  Last evening I awoke from a nap, and as I got my eyes open, there before me was a tall figure, over seven feet tall, and I saw her from the arms up as she gently reminded me they have no feet.  She was truly beautiful, a real yummy being with lots of energy and a lovey bearing.  She spoke to me and may have chuckled too at my surprise.

I asked her (as the appearance lasted a full minute and one half) if it was easy to show me the physical form she presented me and she said she was exhausted but glad to do so.  I asked her why I saw no spirit down to the floor, and she told they do not have legs, but that is the blue white energy of spirit and it has no physical equivalent.  She said she wanted to do that for a long time now, but that she wished to reward me for getting the Michael award I did not know I had.  Now let me tell you what came about earlier in the day as it her appearance may make some more sense after you know this:

About 4PM yesterday I screwed up my courage and went to Walmart to get some odds and ends like milk and grapes.  I am so physically impaired I walk kinda slow pushing my cart, and I started hearing voices in my mind as though someone was transmitting to me.  I have occasionally spoken with some angels that attend to that store and they are fun and humorous with me and cheer me up considerably.  But on this occasion another voice came in quite strong and with a lot of authority which was not familiar to me at all.  It was the Chief Angel over this part of Pennsylvania, and the funny thing, she asked me why I was all lit up?

Well, that was news to me and I said I did not know.  She said, "you walked into this store and one of my subordinates in the store called to ask if you were Jesus? "  She continued, "You are not Jesus I know that but you are so brilliantly lit we wanted to know if you knew?"  Dumbstruck, I said,  "No.  I do not know anything thing about it."

The Creator Son, Michael came in at the moment (and remember I am pushing a cart as this was going on as the store was full of people, and you had to keep moving or get run over),  and told her I was awarded a special light to carry that day and all angels ought to see what a brilliant light a human can have on Urantia if he has done his work properly.  Then Michael was gone and the Supervisory Angel (working hard to be a Completion Seraphim soon) chatted with me even as I went out to the car to load my groceries and go home and even on the way home.  Now that was quite an honor to me!  And to have an angel whom I did not know and was not the Supervisory Angel I spoke to in the store, tell me she wanted to do that for years with me but did not have the courage to do so until I showed up with all my lights at Walmart!


General Discussion / Re: Need for a Urantia and Spirit Primer?
« on: April 07, 2018, 10:24:15 AM »
I hear your wishes for a secondary work to simplify the Urantia Book.

There are about five or so out there already, and frankly they might help a little, but for the most part they are incompetent to do the real job of self spiritualization.  I read a couple of them but I dislike the approach totally, and while they are competent authors, they are not spiritually inclined by the very technique they use to write about concepts they are not fully aware of to write fully about.  Worse yet, one or two of them espouse the Foundation line of interpretation, and that is more of a sign of heresy and then brutal thought to make your understand Triunities or Triodities.

What you are asking for Larry is to reduce your work to understand.  But that is not how the present Urantia Book is written and for good reason.  The technique of original revelation that is in our Urantia Book is designed for force confusion to come to the surface and then force revision in thinking and then force understanding, and then only bit by bit.  That is why the general population, if interested at all in the Book, hates it for it obscures the easy path to conceptual pathologies that fully explain it to your own mind and deep soul considerations to object no more to reading the Urantia Book on its own terms.

How you break the back of a recalcitrant reader to stay the course is to adjust that attitude in that person to persist!  I read the book at least ten times through and many partial sections even today when I can read at all.  Books for Dummies as secondary literature make no attempt to understand the pathologies of revelatory technique.  The Urantia Book itself explains some of that technique, and frankly, I find persons who insist on simplification also insist on not bothering much with their own lives to produce works of important considerations for the rest of us who need their talents to speak and write. 

Now I hear you Larry taking that personally.  It is not for you, okay?  It is for the thousands who have the book and let it sit on the shelf for eight years or fifteen years and never crack it for reasons of the stealthy idea it has no value and is an esoteric volume full of numbers and things to produce useless visions in space and pictures in time. 

No one today really likes the Urantia Book.  I tire of it in places because it never fully states a concern of what "if's?" or takes into consideration some "buts," and that has been addressed I am told by Mantutia well enough in this second volume soon to be produced well enough to see if if not touch it.  Secondary works totally fail to use the revelatory techniques that produce a Urantia Book reader as the Sadler's were and many of the original Forum were, and I know God really laments that loss of integrity and hopefulness they all had.  If you must dabble read those of the best quality and just a look at the Amazon display pages will show you what is available today in those kinds of explanations.

No one can do the work of self spiritualiztion but you and you have to imbibe in the feast the Urantia Book is to be fed in such a way that it sticks.  MY efforts are probably very silly to most of you as why spend years doing work that has no practical application?  And you are right, but the interesting thing is I am familiar now with almost all of what it says except for factual details here and there, and easily recall the book as to what it really says about a concept.  If nothing else, all those reading internalized the book for me and freed me going back and trying to find the concept and then have to have it explained again.  It is up to you, and many will have to go to the mansion worlds to get the kind of treatment some of you want from seconday works today that do not work here.  

My best to you all.
"I see the old idea of reading easily again has surfaced with Larry Gossett.  He is typical of the set of readers who wants it spoon fed better so he does not have to go through hoops Ron does to understand.  Ron leaves us in the dust with what he has done with the present Urantia Book, because it spiritualized him thoroughly and met his cares for years and years and the food shelter he needed to get through many wicked episodes of life experiences that set his teeth on edge fully for years and years at a time.  Now we come to the present era, and the Urantia Book once again comes into controversy endlessly as schools and students alike attempt it and give it up quickly because it is so fatusously presented as a tome of thinking that is hard to practice these days.  That is the primary reason we made a second Urantia Book for distribution soon.  But another reason is what Larry Gossett shows us: he is not capable of doing what Ron did without being forced at the end of a gun to do it.  Ron claims no special interest in doing it except he knew unless he did six binders full of outlines to teach the hard parts, he would never have it fully himself.  He was amazed at Vrrn Grimsley at conferences at how easy that man could speak to the book and tell anecdotes about it, that he determined for himself he could do the same thing some day.  He can do so now and a lot more.

"Larry, ron is right about those secondary works.  One in particular is so bad we have heartily abandoned that individual forever to explain anything and it misleads the student quite seriously.  Furthermore that individual feels entitled to all sorts of perks and procedures in the Urantia Foundation today in order to land everybody in a quandary there: What do we do with him if he writes again? 

"As the Creator Son of record who wants secondary works to appear, people like Ron shy away from them because they know the root of the concept lies in the Father, and the further you go into the Father to explain anything, the deeper you go into Infinity, and Ron long ago desparied of ever attracting that kind of depth of information.  He has done two earth shattering Papers on Infinity and feels chastised yet for barely getting a foot hold into the subject.  He is also reminded he has more to do than think about Infinity for any practical purpose to know more about it today on Urantia, and that planet does not need secondary works, but original works of revelation it can actually learn better and the new book can do that!

"As I was saying the secondary works that are available are hardly competent to do any spiritualization.  Ron dabbled into one or two and found them, well, horrible.  Let that remind you that several of you are fused and if fused you are capable of mucch better work then these present secondary works ever are.  I leave this all of you too:

"The secondary works Ron produced as the ABC Summaries were the best of their kind ever to come to Urantia.  Ron is dyslexic and it forces him to edit over and over again and never could he produce an error free document there, but people have learned to ignore the typos and read them for their worth.  Even I learned from them as he produced work from the Most Highs, and even though they are my Sons of God, they lead an independent life and have facts I do not have in order to rule nations states on planets like Urantia.   I ask that those Papers be preserved someday as we can rewrite them better than he did, but they stand yet as the best human produced revelation we have ever seen.

"Finally, those ABC Summaries have gone around the world and have amazed people for years now and people ask for copies but Ron took us seriously and destroyed them for the most part.  I now wish I had let them stand, but those of you who have a full set should provide them again so we can reference them and let them be read again.  The Papers on Lucifer still are excellent and should be part of a library.  These are genuine secondary works but have failed the typo test.  I am Michael and wish you all a good day."


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