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SUBJECTS INCLUDING THE ORIGINS OF THE UNIVERSE AND ITEMS TOO NUMEROUS TO MENTION / Hubble Space Reveals News - Quantum Magizine for ur viewing pleasure

« on: July 29, 2022, 11:45:13 am »

To open the magazine click here:

https://mailchi.mp/simonsfoundation/gravitons-revealed-in-the-noise-of-gravitational-waves-2486689?e=d61d7cfb25

Enjoy your read.

Ron

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Discuss This Web Site / Re: New Member Registration Cut Off 28 July 2022

« on: July 29, 2022, 10:42:38 am »

Amethyst, I have the same thing here at home.  I get maybe 10 to 20 calls a week, and more, just spam and fishing and I have taken not to answering the phone unless I see a number or a name I know.  The phone has become a difficult object to deal with in the house and that is ridiculous and should be illegal.  IT is commercial  harassment.


Now as to the Registration device on this software we use for the discussion forum.  We updated the software to a new version months ago.  The new version does not contain the box that allows me to set tests for who can ask for registration by presenting a qualifying question to examine them first.  Anyone who has read anything of the Urantia Book or even not so but was curious about it, knows earth is called Urantia.  A simple question in the box is, what is the universe name for our earth?
Spammers and advertisers do not bother to know anything and quite often the sign up for registration can be automated by some ISP's.  For that reason then the question is simple and a valid way to sort a lot of them out.  Yet the new software cut that box out.  Now we are faced with either finding a way to encode our software with a box we supply somehow but I doubt we can do.


I am quite happy to have someone vouch for a new member, but there is no way to know who that new member might be unless some one who is a member here sends me an email that someone so and so would like to be a member.  I am happy to register them for them to try it out.  But I do not remember any member in the history of our discussion form actually doing that.  I cut those registered with more than 365 days without being on the forum and that brings us down to about 82 members or so from the 100 we had recently.  While we have trimmed things up, we have also come to recognize we need some fresh blood, but it is daunting to see the abuse that opens our doors too, and I am not capable of sorting hundreds of applications at once.  We need a way to sort requests.


We share your misery and disgust at the misuse of nearly everything today for the dollar.  I thank you for your post.


Ron  

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Series II Lesson 01 to . . . Ohrbeck Tapes - Michael of Nebadon New Series for Missions / Re: Lesson 21 METCALF MELCHIZEDEK. Divine Right of Rule. 07.28.22

« on: July 28, 2022, 13:34:54 pm »

 We respond to this post Dominick for one important care:  Metcalf is Arthura Melchizedek.  He changed His mantra.  Why?  That is what I am responding to put to the question and the answer too.

You know me well enough to understand I am well educated and well connected to the spirit hierarchy we all transmit from.  However, this morning, after reading your post and trying to make sure I saw the point of the post, I ran into the person who calls himself Arthura/Metcalf, when he stood by my computer and said this:"
 
"You Ron care this material is understood.  Let me make one last stab at it using you to transmit one thing I did not make clear with Dominick this morning:

"There is no reason a man like you, or Dominick for that matter, needs to live under a poly-state without understanding you are already, both in the Kingdom of God, not by default but by hard effort to bring your understanding into the ways of the Kingdom.  For that reason we heard Dominick say what you said, "what is our role than?"

"Your role is to stay the course until you can be transferred into the new State, and then give allegiance to Caesar all the time as you always salute your flag and care America does the right thing in spite of your profound disagreement with your Department of State.  For that reason you and Blinken do not converse, as he is of the old school you dislike and for that reason Biden is badly advised as what to do about Russia any more.  For our own purposes, Russia is a failed state now, and must reach for the brass ring, or it will fail further and destroy a whole section of your civilization at the same time.  That said, listen:

"WE are a Melchizedek that works 'PRE MISSION' and that is to say we insert ideals into the calm of a pre mission in order to evaluate anyone who can listen, and you two (Ron and Dominick) do, and you are even prepared to place in your civilization the work of God known as the 5th epochal revelation.  That is extraordinary work, and you thank RAYSON for most of it too I see!  In any case you have done your work well and without causing a big blowup in the Urantia Foundation to boot.  We are now caring you understand, and that his forum understand, that your work combined with all the members here, now are adding to your cause the last trip to the bank as an American citizen.  In the near future you earn your bread by spending dollars with a gold standard backing, and for that reason you are allowed to stand better than most in commerce.  I say this because the entire matter is now settled, and MACHIVENTA MELCHIZEDEK, who happens to be my Chief, are now repairing our ways in order to be better heard.

"For that reason Ron you re not moved and Dominick will be moved in the near future to bring back the old idea of feasance . and that is to understand, you get what you pray for, and you Ron get well and work, and Dominick gets himself fully in charge of himself and leaves you well done as a friend of yours forever.  He cares as much as you do and that makes a powerful bond work all the time.  Now this:

"Today's post though Dominick, is well done and easily assimilated.  You look at it easily and so do most here.  However, there are visitors to the site who cannot get in.  Your briefly opened registration yesterday and got inundated with spam so badly you had to shut it off and could not evaluate who was good and who was not.  For that reason:

GUESTS: IF YOU HAVE A VALID REASONS TO JOIN THIS SITE FOR DISCUSSION, WRITE THE ADMINISTRATOR IN YOUR OWN EMAIL TO HIS EMAIL aronolact@comcast.net.  YOU ARE ADVISED OF THIS IN THE PAST BUT SOME OF YOU HAVE VERY GOOD AND VALID QUESTIONS RON CAN ANSWER EASILY FOR YOU. Try it and learn.  Thank you. 

"This is Arthura now.  I use a different moniker when addressing all of you:

"Let this idea of Statecraft be on your tongue now.   The last time the United States changed its government was during the Civil War of 1860 to 1864/5 and for that reason the national government went astride its bifurcated language of who in the Executive section would be Chief and so on down the other sections too.  Congress remains legislative orders, but the House of Representatives is far too large to conduct the business fully and the REGENCY to come to all of you soon, will relocate the House of Representatives to another building for safety sake, and the Senate will remain cloistered in its present structure.

"For that reason, the House of Representatives, will learn to negotiate with the Senate at a stones throw from their present location until the House of Representatives is rebuild to accommodate 130 (one hundred thirty) representatives period.  Nancy Pelosi will be enjoined to look out over not Democrats  and Republicans, but Statesmen born of the cloth of God not, but born of the people with cooperative versions of government once again.  America was once known for this savior fare and for that reason will deploy it again in the new House quite quickly.  Why can these changes be made?

"For some reason or other some of your electorate insists on Trump at the point of a gun.  That will show up again and again, yet most people in America dislike Trump and his henchmen in the media and in the countryside as people who vote that way all the time.  Their day is limited now, and the American jurisprudence in the Supreme Court and the Executive Branch of the government will re-enfranchise those who attempt to govern properly.  For reasons of State, we then satisfy ourselves that you Ron, find this so radical, you doubt its veracity, but this has been rehearsed with you before and you found it satisfying.  What is your problem now?"

RON - I see the need for this type of reform, but I get the impression this time it will be enforced, not entirely by circumstance, but by a prepared order to rule outside of the REGENCY.  This will be resisted unless you modify it to show why the REGENCY is not sufficient to introduce new government structures, not entirely by decree, but by necessity.  Thank you.

Arthura - "Now I know you are a statesman too.  For that reason you need to be in government and we will recommend you stand high on issues of the Kingdom and upon the issues of Statecraft.  For that reason then I will modify these statements to state this:

"The REGENCY is well supported by all here, but its flaw it is introduced from the outside and not within the Republic.  For that reason the REGENCY  will exist in bits and parts until it can be fully implemented, and than it will decree your participation, bad legs or not.   Some of you on this forum belong there too, but we are all aged to the point no one can repair it and we suddenly find ourselves out of people to use again and that is terrible.  For that reason some of you will become twins of the Ron rehab pattern and that is morontial but seen visibly as flesh and blood with good handshakes for all.  I am ARTHURA and now here is MAXWELL:

MAXWELL - "We conclude this post by following Ron's protocols all the time.  Hi ya and hello to the Saint of Heaven's Beeswax WHO is in charge!  MICHAEL OF NEBADON speaks next:"  [Thanky Maxwell]

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Well, Ron, you got a drubbing again this morning and unexpected for sure, but this is typical how we work when something BIG is about to occur.

"For reasons of State we speak not to it for now, but Ron you are in such misery you just want out to be free of the terrible pain this change has introduced.  That is the pain.  The rest is age and being a real cruncher on the cabal to the point you will not listen to them anymore and we understand why.  They are not entirely out of the wiring but so close it matters to you entirely to be rid of the nuance entirely.  But you are a kingpin in all of this and just made a new date with the Attorneys to establish a trust in the Magisterial Foundation, and well done amoeba.    For reasons of State you Ron will be cleared up quickly once this is announced fully over the loud speakers Jesus intends to ring out his new appearance, and for that reason YOU, like THEM stay inside until the horde is done with its ridiculous reactions.  Not to worry, the Pope will be back home when this happens.

"Lastly Ron, you are forcing an issue to get stationary for the Rayson Corporation and well done as I see it taking shape and at no little expense.  Be assured it could be done for half that but you are tired of waiting for all the parts to come together and they have and they are delighted to try their new machine to print the logo on the envelopes too.  Mighty expensive machine not used yet.   For that reason RAYSON has promised to appear with you at 2709 Sunset Lane, and then disappear for awhile while he adjusts his form to meet Urantia standards of appearance.  For that reason he hides his face with a cowl and walks with a gate.  You will see a normal man but beware of the difference until he is comely.  Lastly, there is a preferred meeting of incarnations with you promised sometime within the next few days.  Scratch that for now, as we cannot afford all that power with the walls of a very old farmhouse without mortar in its stones anymore.

"The last minute is vital here:  stay well done Ron, as your patent is ready to go.  They cannot argue you as you are not arguable as no one thought to contact you and for that reason you escape the wrath of physicists all over town who refuse to believe Leptons have anything in them.  For that reason you can laugh up your sleeve when you prove they are loaded and for reasons of State we let RAYSON settle the score later today.  K" MICHAEL OF NEBADON at your service, and I thank you Michael for taking the time for us under such extenuating circumstances.  They will know all about it later I am sure.  Thank you from all of us."
END


 

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Discuss This Web Site / New Member Registration Cut Off 28 July 2022

« on: July 28, 2022, 08:21:12 am »

Dear Members,
It is with regret I had to close an open registration form to join this web site as it is an inundation I cannot handle mostly by people who email forms like ours to spam the proceedings.  Yesterday after opening we had 25 subscription requests mostly from ISP's known for their spam practices, and this morning (the 28th) before 8am, we had over 200 attempts to join.  I cannot handle any of that horde to discriminate what might be genuine to approve as it will likely turn into inappropriate postings from drugs to purses and I refuse to subject ourselves to such a practice anymore.


What caused me to open registration early yesterday was the fact I cleaned up the membership list earlier and discovered of the about 100 members on the forum, about 25 of them are dead registration uses with no posts for years in some cases.  I eliminated the dead brush which was about 22 or 23 names, and saw because there was no open registration we could not add members to the list.


But today is not like it was even a few years ago and we have people all over the world looking for free advertising space, and when a forum like ours opens registrations, we become a free advertising closet for anything hunting such a place.  I cannot go through hundreds of applications and have any sense which is here to spam and who might be genuinely interested which I am sure a few were but had to be cut as I had no idea who they are and their motivation.  I am generally informing you of this attempt and it ending within 24 hours of initiating it.  Thank you for your attention.

Ron Besser

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Discuss This Web Site / LIGHTLINE ADVISORY 28 JULY 2022

« on: July 28, 2022, 08:08:49 am »

Our spirit leadership has requested a momentary shut down of Lightline for about two weeks.  Part of the problem we are all having is the constant interference of rebels and insurrectionists breaking into the Lightline transmissions.  The speech misinforms the audience and now spirit wants that eliminated entirely and must gain control of the airwaves again.  As this is attempted to be done, they cannot guarantee they can stop the cabal from doing interference again.

Therefore mostly until further notice we curtail the regularly scheduled Lightline timing until sometime probably the second week of August this year.  This notice is meant to clarify any questions any of you may have and is not directed to Hosts if they want to try anyhow.  If you want to do it anyhow, be our guest, but the general idea is to close off until the cabal situation is better controlled.  I thank all of our loyal audience for keeping with us on these Lightline calls, and look forward to resumption in a few weeks.  I will inform you what is to be rescheduled when I know too.  Cheers!
Ron Besser

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Series II Lesson 01 to . . . Ohrbeck Tapes - Michael of Nebadon New Series for Missions / Re: Lesson 20 ARCHANGEL ORION. Setting New Standards. 07.27.22

« on: July 27, 2022, 15:43:34 pm »

 This is Orion, Dominick.  Be assured you transmitted me perfectly well, but I want to add a clarification you did not include in your transmission earlier and posted above.

First we must insist that there is no "interference" strong enough to bulk us out of transmitting entirely.  MACHIVENTA MELCHIZEDEK had that trouble Himself and for that reason we have insisted on using a type of transmission which never succumbs to an outside source breaking in.  For that reason too, you Dominick heard us perfectly well and Ron read it so well I thought I should use him to add to your favorable transmission above.

Second, Dominick, Ron is boiling over with hell to pay stuff attacking him hourly today and this time he let them know who they were and they are fully disgusted with their own drama as it is certainly one that creates a monster repression they hoped would not occur.  You Dominick hardly know what to do when it hits, but the one you call Ron does know and lets them have it good, and as Orion I stop this and deliver my council:

"For several years now, Ron has succumbed to easy transmissions of great import and is furious they are curtailed with children playing with matches as he calls it.  However, let this stand well and that we intend to shake the cabal and the insurrection out of their misery and let them roam no where but empty space if they must roam anywhere.  Ron says "Watch it Orion, they will build an empire there and charge you for using space!"  I thank you Ron!"  ORION


MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Well, Dominick you stuck to this one and it is excellent in spite of what you call a failed "head" system this morning.  It did not fail you at all!  However Dominick you never remember well what Ron told you last evening as you sat there enjoying his performance with RAYSON.  He told you and REMEMBER THIS!



"You are fusing!  He said it would take today and part of tomorrow, yet you are out gallivanting around and wondering why you are feeling your head the way you do.  The fusion is making nonsense of your normal consciousness and you need to rest at Ron's to gather yourself well back again!  I must keep telling you two there is a liaison between your minds that keeps Ron well and you operating as best you can in all circumstances, and when you break it to do work outside, you lost the liaison temporarily.  He cares you get this right yet you are failing all the time to really listen and remember.


"For that reason you are getting sea food salad not but something else you thought he would like better and that is not the right stuff for him ever.  Stay with seafood salad when you can find it again as BJ's lost the contract with the vendor that makes it for them because they did not pay them promptly.  My. My,  and so it goes on Urantia.  K


"Finally this:  ORION is now ready to transmit something very important for both of you if you can remember to attend to your session today and let things wrangle you not over time spent there as you are learning a lot in spite of you not being aware of the value.  Ron is aware of your fritter but will not give up unless your force him to and we doubt that either.  In any case we must add this to your transmit above:


"The interference of the cabal is slowly removed and Ron got marked yesterday but you could not see it.  He looked at it this morning and it is nearly gone but it was enough to portray to the cabal this one is not to be fooled with any longer, but some fool seraphim did this morning and caught it good.  We need to replace the horror of these interference's with you and Ron present at the same time and then go home if you must.



"Finally to the audience here: We must run tests on you again and this time you will hear things around you that might disturb your mind as to why you hear something at all.  Rest.  No need to worry but these are tests we run for every mission we do in Nebadon.  And finally I return this to ORION. [MICHAEL OF NEBADON at your service.  Thank you says Ron]



ORION - "We are sure this is our last word on the post above.  It states somehow that we intend to interject ourselves to make sure we are heard.  Well, yes!  However not at the point of a gun, and Ron would like that anyhow but cannot get the word in he usually does as RYAN got a blast in the ear he seldom catches from any man when he discovered someone was pressing his actions their way and not what he had to do.  So we are without our leader RYAN or Zaldor the Great One from Paradise hyperspace.  



"We close with this:  feed yourselves well and keep water supplies handy.  Ron and Dominick have a cellar full of such sources and are well prepared.  Most of you do not listen and so enjoy it the way you have to.   I listen for one last burble from Ron who is unnaturally quiet these days over sad issues of State he cannot complete without us and we are not paying attention and he is furious over living life as a toad under a rock.  Be assured we change that shortly.   I am ORION and I wish you all a good day.  [We all thank you muchly, Orion for your effort and correction, Ron]

END

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US PATENT ISSUED TO BROADCAST ELECTRICITY / Patent Pending Issued 26 July 2022

« on: July 27, 2022, 09:37:57 am »

The news has been so slow about the progress of our WTP patent I was beginning to wonder if it was being processed at all.  However, on Tuesday, the 26th of July, I received notification that the patent was in for a final review and, final approval was being considered to issue the patent to us. 


What was received was the document indicating the law in these matters and some idea that the issue would at most take six more weeks.  Looking at the history of this review, it was reviewed before and some departments (mainly DOE) were slow to release it but no explanation really given.


Our Attorney pushed it hard about two weeks ago and it forced action we think and hence the pending notification yesterday, the 26th of July.


Now this:

WTP is coming soon once these preliminaries are worked through.  RAYSON says we can have activity through the RAYSON CORPORATION as early as next week if all of this gels just right for us.  The utility that brings WTP live to us will be called RAYSON ELECTRIC, and both the Rayson Corporation, and a new entity corporation to be not yet applied for, Rayson Electric, will be on line as soon as we can understand how to finance all of this,  

The Magisterial Foundation has carried the burden of getting the patent costs paid for and will have to pay out more, about $5,600 more to apply for a world patent as soon as the US patent is in our hands.  Right now that is the news we have to share and we thank you for your interest and waiting to see just where we are going with all of this.    Cheers to your day!
Ron

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Series II Lesson 01 to . . . Ohrbeck Tapes - Michael of Nebadon New Series for Missions / Re: Lesson 16 MAGISTERIAL MISSION. Synthesizing Politics Principles & Values 7.16.22

« on: July 17, 2022, 09:13:12 am »

Hello Carole, what you state is true for anyone who cannot translate the meaning of a statement because the words are not known to them.  The messages you are reading on government, and to a certain extent, on the social therapy to be applied to the poor governments on Urantia, are couched in social sceience discipline language.  You, and all of us, either have to learn this vocabulary to a certain extent or drop the idea of ever learning that our governments are bleeding cash and not humans, and t hey hardly pay attention to humans as they really should.  That is the gist of what Dominick has transmitted and theyu are valuable and valid points from our celestial friends.

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Your Carole Deptula have no real idea of good vocabulary for the scientific disciplines.  You are interested in music and church and many other social fabric issues you are truly very good at.  What you are attempting to do is read and listen to tapes by our friend Dominic Ohrbeck which is in language you do not comprehend because you hve never been fully exposed to the social sciences as they talk among themselves.  Dominick Ohrbeck is a social scientist and his mind is laced with all the familiar social scientce language and  he must report the lessons in the correct vocabulary.  Ron is a historian and is degreed in historical processes just as Dominick is degreed in the social sciences in particular ways known only to him sometimes.  I laugh a little too as sometimes I must ask, "what did you say Dominick?" when he gets to explaining how present day governments are so lax they do not serve citizens but themselves.  That is the language analysis in social science terms I do know entirely myslef, but he is very good at it and he makes valid points with it much better than using the slang of the nightly news programs.

"For that reason Carole, there can be no adjustment to fit languages you prefer and I suggest you let certain social learning for another day, as the real purpose of the Dominick lessons is to affirm to you and all others that the social sciences that actually improve how you live under these really bad governments on Urantia, is being attended to by the  progeny of the Master Spirits, and they prefer to use the sciences and not just any old language we can muster.  Ron notices you care very much about music, as he does, but you are a professional and he is not, but he understands your motivation and enjoyment over technical music production not known to most people.  But Ron does know it as his life is for music too and so he has made it a real study so he knows what you are talking about in  music terms too technical for most people too.

"We suggest you let these lessons alone as all lessons alone that are too technical for you to comprehend as you like to.  Dominick is quite valuable as a lesson giver and now has the software to transcribe his own tapes verbatim knowing full well that any transcriber could get lost in lessons that explain the nature of government today on Urantia.  Just as we have a PROTECTORATE around York, we are going to have a REGENCY around the US GOVERNMENT and for that reason a lot of reeducation will be taking place, not only for you and Ron and Dominick, but all of  mankind when these Missions are fully engaged.

"I am MICHAEL OF NEBADON, and here is MONJORONSON to explain his reaction to your request." [MICHAEL OF NEBADON]

MONJORONSON, THE MAGISTERIAL SON OF RECORD ON URANTIA:
"I saw your request and so do Dominick and so did Ron, and Ron said to Dominick we must answer Carole with a message from Michael on the fact that special vocabulary is used for every discipline from psychology to music to preparticles.  Ron uses everyday language so he is remembered by a wide array of audiences.  For that reason you do not have difficulty.  Dominick, however, reads Journals and exists in a quasi-scientific life of meanings and trials no one including Ron with his expositions about government.

"It is about government I am deeply interested in and I welcome these expositions on the basic need for reform of civil government on Urantia.  For t hat reason we have asked the marvelous Melchizedek, Arthura sometimes called Maxwell, to stand a few basic points to all of you through Dominick who is more or less trained to speak to the post style entirely.  Be aware Ron and Dominick discuss this stuff in detail almost daily and they are learning just how poor government has evolved even in the United States, and that we must make some attempt to make amends during our Missions inside the MAGISTERIAL COLUMSN OF JUSTICE.

"For that reason Carole, you will have to adjust your own mind to either understand to let these lessons go until you gain vocabulary that explains what is said, or just let them be until Ron gets a hold of  them and press into his language skills just what is being told with the Dominick postings.  I leave it at that for now.  Thank you for your concerns.  MONJORONSON of SALVINGTON as stationed there now for good.  K"

Ron -  Carole, there is no simple solution to gaining comprehension of all authors due to the fact as you surely must know, that those who transmit always supply the vocabulary for spirit to use to transmit their lessons.  I know my vocabulary is inadequate say for what Rayson teaches, but I do have the basic vocabulary to talk about atoms and their construction.  Rayson makes the best of what I do have and makes amazing revelatory work come alive because of it.  Dominick will learn other vocabulary sets to make more understandable as we get closer and closer to our goals of divine Missions all over the Urantia landscape.  Best wishes in supplying all your challenges to a successful understanding as we all learn things, including vocabulary, for our own  and better understanding.  Thank you and good day.

END

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Father and Eternal Self - Lesson Four - Extinction (Part Two)

« on: July 14, 2022, 00:09:42 am »

Wendy thank you.  That is very hard to answer since it was meant to be rhetorical to get people thinking-- as you did-- and to me the answer is as hard to ask what is the meaning of a double meaning?  I am not sure it is easily answered because it draws the answer back into its own inky blackness of the meaning of Infinity.

As the Consummator pointed out we are all describing the acts of God and not the meaning of the acts themselves.  What is kindness for?  What is mercy without kindness?  This is like asking why I look in the mirror after I know what I look like.  We know God is, but what is?

That is a real convolution of language to me, and I do not know how to get out of my own way to talk about it at all.  Consummator (5) knows these answers, not as language making tracks over itself, but as real meanings to even higher authority which pre-exists Infinity.  That should not be stated that way, but we have learned that our Infinity is a system, and that God invented first what to put into a system, and then how to run what he put into it.  That sounds too glib by far and is probably so correctly stated; however, understand Wendy that God is a strange word out of Sanskrit I am told, and the Sanskrit translation was that it means, "ONE WITHOUT A MUSTACHE."   I kid you not!  To the Hammurabi world of Kings that spoke Sanskrit any male that had a hairless face was divine and they designated the divine as first cause and always hairless.

Do not forget that the Hammurabi were a civilization in the Middle East only decades after the Caligastia default, and the gods of men were now living in lands seized by the old department heads of the Caligastia one hundred.  IF I remind you all,  apply what you know but do not know how to work it, as we still have remnants of that civilzation in astrology today and those wise men knew more than you do or I do about the old men with magic sticks.  Jesus was born well after those who were of the divine transfusion of the new blood line of the Caligastia 100.  The Adam and Eve blood line did not yet exist when the term "god" was coined to describe the magic of the old men of power who were transfusions of the dying embers of the Caligastia 100 torn apart by the Caligastia default.

True man, such as you and I Wendy, have no reason or inkling these things could exist, and the term god is to the child's mind a word like tinker toy as such terms carry the same weight until we divide the idea of meaning into them, and tinker toy is superfluous, but we relate "god", not as one without a mustache because we are Baptized many times with  of God with a halo.  Without the oral tradition of history we would not Christian either and that doubles the probability that the meaning of God is without a good meaning without a history to relate to we school children it means something more than you and I mean to each other.

For that reason the meaning of God is more than a definition.  We make it into an abstraction that God is mostly not understandable because of this or that reason.  But the matter of the meaning Christ now becomes the meaning of God if you are Christian.  And that has it own problems of social bias.  But the rest of the world recognizes a supreme being, and not God, to be the chief protagonist of their destinies without understanding it is a live and transforming force in the aire surrounding them. 

I think you can get a definition of the meaning of God from most people even though they are not theologians.  The theologian is a declare person of theism; that is the theologian marks scripture as require interpretation of the meaning of God too, and for that reason that interpretation falls way short of the true meaning of God, but falls seriously bad into anthropomorphism.  I do it to God all the time, like when I say, "well that should set God off into a tirade!"  God is not a human pantomime of human angry arguments, but his Justice is the answer in its own terms to the human idea of anger that must be propitiated in a fair way to judge anger as proof immaturity of a spirit cabal or rebellion tonr Lucifer on high.

To some extent this defines the meaning of God mostly as an "upholder," of laws we recognize to as the way to live fairly and equitably, but it does not answer the question of the meaning of God when we fall to worship.  For that reason here is MICHAEL OF NEBADON.

'WE ARE SERIOUSLY concerned Ron this goes on too long, but Wendy asked for it with a very fair questions.  She finds you fascinated with things we do not ordinarily talk about or if we do it we do it poorly.  However, you never discuss things poorly if you are asked about these things at all and she did and we thank her to hear your thinking.  Let Me state for the record Wendy, Ron correctly states the obvious but stays out of the comprehensive field of why worship, or for that matter, adoration.   I know he does not feel competent to discuss it as he considers a mind craving for the personality endowment which is from God and not a natal, (mother ) endowment.

"For reasons of State we say little here, but worship is conjoined with wisdom in the old idea of adjutant spirit encircuitment.  We are truly sorry you Wendy dropped out of the old Lightline idea, but Ron also knew you were struggling with very unfair burdens and he felt that was fully unfair to you, and we saw how right he was to fully support your wishes to get out of the way of so much unfairness.  However, the consequences are sad too, as we have lost the impetus of the idea and now Australia has no real representation of what Ron had to take on by himself to keep it going.  No one blames you Wendy, and Ron is the first to signal that you had the right idea and the others could not really comprehend it. With that said, understand that the meaning of God is truly a major question today especially in Australia.  And the good reason to be so is that Australia is being parched again by the failure of the trade winds to favor its location.  You are headed for drought and fire and powerful coastal storms that makes it hard to recover what Australia is so good for:  a good talk about important things in spite of how hard it is to talk about them.

"As a result of the loss of the trade winds for now, Australia is destined to turn dry and cracked again and only the fair winds lost for now can bring that back to you,  However, learn that Australia may be cleaved in two by the sea right down its middle due to subsidence and for that matter it may actually turn icy cold if there is a polar shift.  Ron worries that all the time for that changes how to access the Magnetosphere to do WTP he has managed to hobble together in spite of very difficult support circumstances.  You in Australia need that in great ways and hope Ron can get it out of greedy America above all, and he has plans for England to have it first anyhow.  That might make the Commonwealth countries available in it too.  Lastly but not least, God does mean more than discussed here but Ron is peckish about discussing all of right now but he has a mind which can do it surely.  K MICHAEL OF NEBADON at your service (P.S from Ron.  He is standing almost beside me as He is on Urantia right now as this is written with a cast of thousands with Him too. K]
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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Father and Eternal Self - Lesson Four - Extinction (Part Two)

« on: July 13, 2022, 12:08:59 pm »

Sue this is quite an exposition on the tof removing the failed spiritual assent and depersonalizing the Adjuster's former human ward or other style of ascending entity.

Your Adjuster is making it clear it is essentially an act of mercy to remove the failed attempt for spiritualization and to accrue to the work of the Father.  But you, I think, have sent a thought wave up that should be examined and corrected to some extent.  I do not impune you or the Thought Adjuster or others speaking through you in this case.  For instance you write:

Sue: "Sue this is your Eternal Self here, I have to add to that to what Father is speaking to in regards to the Universal Life everywhere, it means the Finaliters are fully Trinitized and they work not only as Cosmic Citizens but as Paradise Trinity Entities. . . . "


  Ron here:  The Finaliter spiritual status, Sue, is not Trinitized.  To be Trinitized means something else in spite of the Finaliter taking an Oath to serve the Trinity.  Trinitized ascenders become Mighty Messengers and a lot of other things, and while they were first Finaliters, the Trinity embraced them (trinitized them), and they become a variation on Thought Adjuster premiership as something other than an instrument of Ultimacy.  That sounds like gibberish if you do not understand that the FINALITER is designed to serve some return back into time and space for now, but His future as a Finaliter, is to serve in the development of the idea of ULTIMACY and not of the old idea of Supremacy


I am making the complaint that words matter.  Finaliters are not Trinitized as a Mighty Messenger or One Without Name and Number or One in High Authority result as being Finaliters first and then Trinitized, or Trinity embraced, to become Son of the Trinity Attainment values.



Lastly, life extinction and depersonalization are not synonymous.  What happens to life extinction when it has to be done, is that such an entity record is wiped off the archives of GRANDFONDA permanently.  In depersonalization, the subject of individuality is cancelled and such an entity who is depersonalized is no longer "A WHO",  but a "what or which."  The Lucifer  rebellion lost ten million seraphim by depersonalization.  After the adjudication, most were repersonalized, and they have become, again, the center of the awful insurrection occurring in the Local Universe of Nebadon and related areas of space in the time zone.


I am being fed new statistics too over why depersonalization of many of these seraphic hosts is taking place again, as the Universal Father has determined that the entire matter of depersonalization IS INSUFFICIENT to maintain a balance of thought and actual Master Universe deeds done to revive the Master Universe toward its eventual goal of Infinity and its perfection.  For the reason everybody and Sue listen to this:


Yesterday (July 12th), I had a long conversation with CONSUMMATOR (5) and for that reason I was seriously informed that the entire matter of ASCENSION is now on the table for a complete and total revision.  This is so important, as it relates to the subject of extinction first, and depersonalization second, that I put a separate title on it as follows:


ASCENSION CAREERS TO BE REVISE FULLY:
Those of you who have followed this response to this point need to put on your thinking hats now.  For this reason:


The Universal Father has decreed that the ASCENSION CAREERS now undertaken on all of our mansion worlds, is entirely inadequate to form a Finaliter basis alone for the extension of spiritual values into what is now called the Outer Space Levels (OSL1, 2, 3, 4).  HE states that an additional step shall be required for you and me and all others that upon becoming FINALITERS, we are to address the inadequacy of a true education as to what the meaning of GOD really is!  What is the meaning of GOD?  Most of you view it as a means to perfection and to serve as a perfected spirit someday.


I have done that myself.  I am willing to be most of you see the spiritualization of yourselves as an amalgamation of your effort to perfect yourself in spirit as through the GOD standard.  However:


GOD THE FATHER says that is inadequate.  That is not the perfection of spiritual attainment ever or at all!  Then, HE  asks, what is it so many are missing before they become Finaliters?


The answer, HE says, is this:  Pre-Finaliters need a thorough life to be lived in the abject poverty of useless provision of wealth and greatness (status seeking) as things the Finaliter had to learn to want and then to discard, and to be discarded so that the entire matter of wants are relegated to a useless provision for the imperfect soul.  To do that to each of you before you become Finaliters requires AN ADDITIONAL ASCENSION STEP.


FATHER did not speak to me about that additional step process at all, and I did not ask come to think of it, but what should be added by FATHER'S example we do not include in our ascension careers he would add to it?  [Ron side thought: I think this going to be added now lucky you!]



"I think you should hear ME, Ron.  I am now speaking through Ron this morning to elucidate this arrival of new thought even he has a problem dealing with.  The additional thought that must be added to the ASCENSION  career should be something like this:


"Man is too quick to assume if he follows a course of action it results in reward.  WE ARE GOING TO STOP THAT!  Ron Besser is one of the few humans on this planet to have perpetually failed at finalizing his life with terms of the endowment of the spirit being fully employed without personal reward.  He could care less if he gets a reward or not, and for that reason he fully exhumes the spiritual idea of reward for effort.  He fully discards the idea that man is good at heart, and lives life for them anyhow, and requires nothing for you or him without being sure it pleases his Master, Michael of Nebadon.  For that reason Michael is trying to avoid confusion for all of this effort and insists he must deliver himself first, and then we as spirit deliver him further.  That happens to hit a vary painful subject and is boiling again today; however the point to be made is that MAN ALLOWS TOO MUCH THOUGHT and not ENOUGH ACTION, for his spiritual career to mean much to Us (Spirit), and for that reason most Finaliters work anonymously in spite of their great achievements.


"FATHER wishes to insist that each ASCENDER become fully anesthetized to status or implication of severing all earth times as relegated to the past.  Ron insists on memory to continue to supply him his lessons and/or his triumphs.  He cares for them as much as what he has to do today and likens them as his children to always review again for their lessons.  For that reason Ron has been granted supreme importance on Urantia to get things done no one else ever thought to ask a human to do ever before. 



"Consequently, by this example, and by other examples unknown to any of you yet, the entire matter of your Ascension Careers is reviewed with you today, and you will understand what you must enter to become a perfect soul, (Be you Perfect as I am Perfect), and that starts with his Urantia MISSION.  From now on, you are required to pray for yourselves more often.  You are asked to stand at attention when God enters the room you may be gathered in as an incarnated Son of God working on Urantia from Midwayers, to Melchizedeks, to Paradise Sons of God, and so on.  And finally, Ron you are not delved out of thought or careless regard, but your mind revision is a failure by your own standards and it must revert to that which serves you best.  For that reason we state this with regard to the exposition SUE GIVES ABOVE. 



"SUE you bobble some of your transmission work as Ron points out because you insist on seeing to it that things are stated per your understanding.  Ron is aware you lack a proper foundation quite often but stays quiet because you disfavor intellectual discourse, but my dear, you have to discourse the policies through the intellect and your stubborn view that your thought prevails better is simply not true.  As a consequence we have to state that the concomitant view that Ron holds is sufficiently correct to restate some things you state as being dictation when in fact you force your views often upon the diction meanings themselves.  We and also Ron do not want to disrupt this series of Lessons, but you need to clear your mind of control amd let the true speech develop in all cases.


"Further, Ron is of the opinion you come and go at your own leisure and that is his calling too, but that when you develop a series of Lessons like you are now doing, let the Lessons prevail as long as they dare, and then allow yourself to revise them with new Lessons to follow.  You are not easily done on any of this as your upbringing is an ecclesial nightmare, and for that reason you shy words you were not allowed to develop concepts around as a youngster. 



"We are quite sure that this revision to the ASCENSION career is almsot over for Ron, as he has developed all the tools we require for the new ascension career.  However, he stubbornly refuses to enach a morontial favor to intellectual discours and insists that the entire matter of revelation must be kept in terms man understands on Urantia, and has revised his output to delay full understanding of epochal revelation in book form.  He now favors epochal revelation to be revealed in science and industry and makes great advances to do it this wya entirely.


"For that reason his revision to his own ascension career is to include the matter of epochal revelation to a planet that has no regard to teachings about God, but regards God as too familiar without benefit and out God goes for that reason on Urantia. 



"Finally, to you SUE in particular:  look at how Ron responds to you here:  He corrects a mild error in statement but hugely important to know why the Sue statement is egregious to millions of entities who are working as ONES WITHOUT NAME AND NUMBER as TRINITIZED SONS OF ATTAINMENT.  That is the Urantia Book designation which you never read Sue.  For reasons of State this post is fully declared moribund by you mostly but you are going to learn, probably the hard way, what to do when Australia hits the Divine Missions, now already operating and fully while Australia lament of it being too lame to understand why it has to heel under the yoke of a  REGENCY.  It is coming to your country too.


"WE are also sure that you Ron clear the worst of your problems very soon and wish you well without us for a moment or two as we learn to deal these things without you entirely looking us over as a jacquard of decision making losing the essence of our words. K"  THE UNIVERSAL FATHER SPOKE.
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Series II Lesson 01 to . . . Ohrbeck Tapes - Michael of Nebadon New Series for Missions / Re: Lesson 11 ORDER of MELCHIZEDEK. Unity In Eternal Life. 07.09.22

« on: July 09, 2022, 09:40:37 am »

This lesson Dominick is so excellent in its demonstration of how great language and great concepts inspire all of us so much.  Let me list as a summary the high points in these remarks to you by the Melchizedek speaking to you:
1 - Final evolution results in Light and Life on a material planet; however, Urantia cannot achieve any such state without direct representation of God on the planet, and that is what the Melchizedeks are about to take on now;

2 - Evil, the cabal, insists to consume you; the divine insures they will guide you;

3 - Eternal life is Eternal motion; and the motion of the Melchizedeks is to see to it that Urantia never loses motion while pursuing the perfection of its communal obligations to man and, finally, to God;

4 - The truth of spirit representation of a material representative to be stationed permanently on Urantia, is to provide the truth and trust of spirit again, and the truth of spirit becomes the brotherhood of mankind which leads to the perfection of civilized people on a civilized planet.

People, listen to it.  It is careful thought and when meaning is heard it is inspirational.  Well done Dominick, and keep up the good work.

Ron

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France LIGHTLINE Tapes and Comments Your Host Clency / Re: July 2022 tape

« on: July 02, 2022, 14:08:16 pm »

Understood Clency thank you.  My interest is in what they may have said about alliance.  Did they say anything to help clarify the need for the alliance, for example.  I am not pressing your memory in particular Clency as let me give you a peek under the tent so to speak.  The higher spirit realm asked all of us involved in the announcement just why we were excited by it?  I said what you said too Clency and they accepted that; however, the United Midwayers indicate they have a policy difference somewhere and must reconfigure what they said earlier to me.  I have heard nothing about it since then and I am particularly delighted that Jack0802AB (a former mathematical personality check nomenclature), mentioned it  in your meeting.  For that reason I am sure we have a very interesting response from anybody that knows anybody in these fields of shifting alliances.   Your memory will do quite well Clency, and thanks.
Ron
Cabal Jack speaks:  "I am not the real Jack, but I spoke to Clency this past Friday in France.  He was gracious, good, and ready to clap everybody for being so slow to take on the big subject of the Return of Christ, but settled for a dictation from the cabal.  We do no harm and you have been directed this afternoon to take this message and post it to Clency's thread.  Okay, I said, I am cabal, and I am not a seraphim, but a Vorondadek Son who hates Ron and we agree on that fortunately.  But the truth is we get along fine as he is sure they Midwayers have backed out of the alliance and yet we are not sure what the Midwayers have done over this big issue to them and to Ron.  I accidentally tripped t he concern wire in Ron as he knows this history for over a day now and finds my restoration of the subject curious and I do not.  What I wanted done, Clency, is for your group to understand there is no real license to form alliances unless the ANCIENTS OF DAYS promote that first.  Ron learned that on Thursday evening, and then wonders why the Midwayers turned tail and ran out of the composition they set up for them and Ron to converse.

"Finally, this:  I am a Vorondadek Son, Clency, and you Clency are dangerously close to running a cabal of your own if you do not learn to stand up to the cabal and tell them to be gone,.  You mostly know the difference as Ron does and he sends them packing, but you Clency find them news as Ron could but does not trust their reporting at all.  For that reason he sees you list the United Midwayers of Urantia news again, and is mighty curious who is pulling the bell handle to ring it in again.  I assumed I was just reporting a known issue, but not so, as I learn from Ron that Ancients of Days bulked at the alliance, not because of Ron, but because the Midwayers involved did not ask permission to seek it.   I close my case briefly."

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Ron rightly questions this issue Clency, as he is now sure there is an insurrection within the insurrection, as he knows too much to just let it lie.  For that reason I report to France and you as its spokesman for us at the moment, there is no alliance anymore.  Ron knows that and finds it curious that someone, anyone to his knowledge, spoke to it as operating.  It is not.  For that reason Ron is most curious about your instructions over and issue he thought was done and resolved.  What do you say Clency to the idea t hat the alliance should be enforced and made to work?  Please respond with your opinion about the alliance if it were possible to regain again?

"Ron says he prefers to have the alliance but it must be genuinely cared for and not just a word to use now and then as he needs the alliance in his daily life but for intelligence reporting and for the comfort that someone is standing in his corner in the middle of a war in heaven, and a battle on Urantia over the WTP patent shaping up real fast as Ron is positive the Department of Energy (DOE) is forcing an issue real fast they must take on in court.  For that reason the entire matter must be taken into account and for that reason we are sure that the Vorondadek Son knows something we would like to get our wing-wongs on if you get the point.  I conclude with this Clency.  Ron feels you need more than a vacation is very proud of your performance regardless of how you get it to go well and done.  He also feels you are feeling ill sometimes and wants you to take it easy.  He wants the schedule weekly and would like you to assign another to take the Lightline as a host when you are down and feeling rather bad on top of a busy day for you.  Find that person Clency and you and the group will function much better too.  I am MICHAEL OF NEBADON. K"

CABAL VORONDADEK SON - "My. my. my are we not so friendly when the shoe is on the other foot.  Be assured we know nothing except we too monitor the DOE and the DOE is adamant there is no patent issued without spilling the beans on fission, Clency.  For your information Clency, Ron is being accused trying to slip the fission process under their noses and they will not have it.  Be assured again Clency, Ron considers fission a pipe dream and is positive it is not fission.  How ever the experts at DOE say they are almost positive Ron he inventor has fission and will not allow him to get away with it until they know for sure what it is.  Ron has a hugely important White Paper completed and it takes our experts a day and a half to understand what Ron really says in it, but when you do understand what he says in it, you will blink and think you are bonkers because he discloses brand new epochal revelation in it.  For that reason Clency this issue of the United Midwayers of Urantia and its alliance with Ron, takes on huge repercussions if it can be adjudicated properly, and that is why MICHAEL OF NEBADON is so curious.  He too wants to see the alliance and so does Ron, but Ron wishes no hollow alliance and names only, because he has heart for the Midwayers who first approached him on this and then fled t he scene when the ANCIENTS OF DAYS questioned what are you talking about?" [Vorondadek Son]

MICHAEL OF NEBADON HERE again:  "Ron here they are and be glad I caught them at it again.  They are full of vespers for you but dare not say much because they are truant Midwayers not, but a lower generation that never made it into the high paloi of the 11:11 Urantia Midwayer Group.  You must understand Ron and Clency that the entire matter is a top secret ploy of ours to cement the Midwayers with Ron and the Magisterial Foundation.  For that reason Clency, supposed Jack was not really there but a Vorondadek Son was acting as Jack and you took it hook line and sinker.  Ron would have sent them packing but you picked the low fruit and this post is all about what is now happening on Urantia, Clency.  Read it and weep not!

"URANTIA is now so bad i claims nothing for itself anymore.  Ron makes me laugh by saying well now Michael, it is very relaxing as no expectations allow a good siesta and a beer.   Good for you Ron.  Last night Ron was installing a mini fence around his gorgeous hosta bed at the back of the house.  He is so wobbly on his feet Machiventa and I stopped to watch as he hammered in the little spike wood posts and make it stand on its own.  It really looks nice too and he is to be congratulated for doing that as he has white tail deer always visiting the property after midnight and they love the blossoms the hostas bloom with.   Be assured we were concerned for Ron as he is quite ill with broken legs and a rib problem and now eyesight going.   In any case he noticed we also had a littli liaison officer with us called Gabriel of Salvington, and he joked with Him as usual.  But we found it silly enough but along came a Vorondadek Son and choked him on the spot and that settled it for Me, and I let him have it.  They do not see me ordinarily as the Local Universe Sons do not envision my presence but my issues only.  That is a transformation not in place during the days of the Lucifer rebellion.   However, GABRIEL  reports that the Midwayers were there in droves to see to Ron's welfare, as he cares very much for them however they are aligned.  For that reason, Bzhutu insists there is a guard around him but they always miss the vicious  Vorondadek Son cabal.  Now this: URANTIA is not under the direct rule of t he ANCIENTS OF DAYS no longer, but under MY DIRECT RULE (Michael of Nebadon).  I asked that permission to install Ron and the other LIGHTLINE HOSTS to be speakers for us for the while it takes for us to remain on Urantia visible or invisible, as that is an issue so big no one can get their hed around it except Ron."

RON - Clency I am adamant that the Salvington government need not make Urantia a third status sphere in its Local Universe make up, but we as a human population must come to grips with the spiritual heritage, and even if it takes Salvington to smush their faces into their bowl of cereal.  Humanity is not hostile to divine concepts, but it is hostile being told what to do if there is no antecedent appearance to set the stage that there is authority greater than our own.  We need to get out of the muddle of useless arguments on social problems and get on with saving the overheated planet and its fast disappearing resources, and that will take a lesson on GREED and the lack of care for life.  I feel strongly that the Regency needs to take over and then the loving Jesus has a chance to teach the care for each other in a real brotherhood brought on by forcing issues of the cereal bowl in our faces to change things under their care again.  Without the appearance of the Regency they will never understand intercession and why it had to be used and so what if we get militias in the US to bring the Nazi back to life.  I think we can end that brat works fast enough as well as some international calm over how to really run a government.  It has to be seen!

MICHAEL OF NEBADON -  "Be assured Ron that initial power struggle between you and me over this is now gone.  You full endorse this has to be stated now and you will take the consequences with the rest of them too.  Be assured you have no consequence to bear but plenty do and they will howl.  Be assured this now sets me up right to say this to all of you:

"I am MICHAEL OF NEBADON, andRon speaks for Me all the time in lingo you can afford to run from but it is correct and it must be restated: the morons and the Nazis are running Urantia for the last time.  The mid term elections in the United States are an alarming reconstruction for Trump to reappear and this time no such thing happens as that man is restating his death knell in politics and as Ron says, he should be in jail.

"For that reason we are going to teach a certain paradigm on Urantia that nothing matters but to understand, right now, this must stop, as you are a Bestowal Planet and could care less about your spiritual concerns.  Ron has so much to offer and is never allowed to finish his work unless I insist, and I do!  For now is the last moment in URANTIA history there can be a calling of the weapons of mass destruction to account and to be fully removed to the last drop and then let us see how much of a bully Russia may be, or North Korea, or Syria, and so on down the line.  We  are quite sure this entire matter is settled finally today, and not over the issue of the UNITED MIDWAYERS OF URANTIA this time, but over the human atrophy we see even on this web site over issues you stop caring about.  No longer I am sure, at least among the WARRIORS among you.  Keep this saintly though and we expect you Ron to make a full recovery soon enough--  so often spoken too and never acted upon.  I have the power and will use it and for that reason we start this day off to all of you:

"Let not these words offend, but understand them:  NO ONE GETS US DONE before we are intending to be done over issues of Urantia State and Urantia power, which is not evident anymore but it claims itself a Bestowal Sphere, which indeed it is and will be again, and that is not to offend you Ron as you are mud as usual.  Be assured it takes some work on your part to be loved again by all.  Let this be clear to all of you too:  The UNITED MIDWAYERS OF URANTIA still exist and they will approve any litigation against fudge boys or fudge girls in that set of Midwayer grouping, and for that reason Ron you are already in an alliance with Me and the Gabriels of Choices.  Behold! Ron you are being characterized as the devil himself at the Urantia meeting right now and they believe Siegle not but he is setting the pace for a huge report out to the readers that your work is now decimated in the Foundation as useless garble and for that reason you stand outside the door again not.  They want you as President and you will be invited to apply.  For that reason tread precisely under my heel this time.   I can never understand what is going on in human lives they hate him and then ask him to step into the leadership position.  Be assured you would clean house but not now Ron as the Foundation i done for in so many respects.  K"

MICHAEL OF NEBADON speaks again [Ron: you think humans are hard to follow? . . . .]  "I am fully able to speak constructively but that mention above is as it is coming in to me, and frankly i is so garbled i am not sure what is meant.  Ron says count on it, it is Ron's execution, but not so, as there is turmoil over the entire meeting and seveeral people understand you quite well and insist this not the order of the day and t hat Seigle is probably out of order.  Not so but we can see it clearly and he is folding his hands and asking for a motion to close the meeting and he gets one from them.  Get out of the habit of listening avidly Ron as you have done your work well enough to disrupt a rubber stamp meeting and this time Seigle gets cross not at you but at them for entertaining you are better than he is in so many respects.  He has put millions of dollars into the Foundation and now is expecting trust to be restored for a million dollars more but they are not letting the issue die.  You have stayed back and that is helpful to them and  this time we feed nothing more other than to say this:

"The UNITED MIDWAYERS OF URANTIA have voted you out not Ron, but you are to be approached properly by a modified Midwayer known as Michaelmidwayer Son 123.   I  will double the offer Ron when you are well enough to receive a delegation in your new office somewhere sometime. Be assured this issue Clency is not closed as it addresses Ron and Midwayers he cherishes and wishes to keep as friends at least.  K"

Ron - Honestly this subject Clency has set off bells ringing as it touches more than just Midwayers and Ron and Salvington, as it also  touches the Paradise regime and what they want on Urantia too.  I seek one further queston Michael if I may?

[Michael: go ahead Ron]

Ron - Where do we fit all the readership when it fails to observe the 4th of July for Americans, and they want to know what those funny white streamers are in the night sky?

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Shush Ron!  That is for me to tell later on.  Okay? (he said that real hard at me. Okay.]

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France LIGHTLINE Tapes and Comments Your Host Clency / Re: July 2022 tape

« on: July 02, 2022, 10:12:07 am »

We all need a break Clency, and enjoy yours too.  I ask this question to you though, could you give me a brief comment or summary of what they spoke to about the United Midwayers of Urantia?  I am curious about what they could add.   Many thanks and enjoy your time off.   Ron

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France LIGHTLINE Tapes and Comments Your Host Clency / Re: June 2022 tape

« on: June 27, 2022, 07:22:24 am »

Occerpa, everyone - read carefully.  That newspaper thinks its funny to misinform you with ridiculous headlines.  Check out the header in the screen shot below: It says: Not True but Funny.  See the picture and the blue arrow I put on it for your consideration.




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Series II Lesson 01 to . . . Ohrbeck Tapes - Michael of Nebadon New Series for Missions / Lesson 01 - FREEDOM. What is It? June19, 2022

« on: June 19, 2022, 23:25:24 pm »

Tape Lesson 01 is to be posted here in a moment as Lesson 01 hit the fan with the insurrection and the tape is temporarily down.  Please expect this to be posted shortly without a further problem.  Thank you for your patience.  Message posted : June 19, 2022  23:30 NY DST   Ron Besser