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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: LLUSA WEDNESDAY 10 APRIL 2024
« Last post by SonsofGod on April 11, 2024, 14:07:58 pm »
Thanksgiving for this Lightline to Michael of Nebadon and Machiventa Melchizedek. Thank you, Lemuel and Ron. We are so glad to hear that the information will continue to flow. That is the most important to keep us together as a group under any circumstances, and to expel all lurking darkness. The tides will turn again, I am sure. Until then, we keep being about our Father's business wherever we are and receive instructions from within.  

The only part that is disappointing and painful is knowing that the world will not change for the better any time soon, expect if and when WTP will revolutionize the globe! That will bring much attention to the goodness of our Father and Father Michael, it might even swing the doors open to the visible Missions with acceptance. My prayer is to remove the individuals from leading positions who are the enemy of advancement for selfish reasons, and do not care to work for the best interest of the people. Let them live out their lives stripped from power positions. I know there are many, but Spirit can start somewhere that will have a snowball effect, I believe. It does not have to be that people would SEE Spirit in order to make some order in the world. Let people see some of the consequences of their actions instead.  Were we not tested and tried? Isn't that what the world needs to go through also? Some may come out like gold. May be not gold but silver, at least, as longs as turning to the light from darkness.  

The question I have left is about the SIXTH EPOCHAL REVELATION.  Will it still come to Urantia? If so, nothing has changed other than visibility. People of the world should learn anyhow to have faith without seeing when they see through such an incredible manifestation. We need to do the outreach better and that is our opportunity to partake in the Mission of saving Urantia.

Another question comes to mind that also is my PRAYER forever, will the evil ones be removed from Urantia continually and fully? There is enough suffering and depravation on the planet already without their further input. Souls are getting lost, so let there be light only and no more darkness! Please Father! No devil (or better names you call them) can stop our progress, the progress of greater Light reaching Urantia.  Let there be a constant exposure of the darkness that will cause people to able to choose the Light. Father! Please expose the darkness of corruption and dark secrets by your spiritual means!

Lastly, what is most concerning to us all for many years is Ron's health and Lemuel's as well. We pray, please Father Michael, grant them the privileges of life extension and /or miraculous healing, whatever it takes. We need them so much to keep the 'spiritual ball rolling' may it be Lightlines or WTP, facilitators of places of our family gathering. We all would also seek and be forever thankful for some healing in our aging bodies to able to stay the course. Thank you, Father, for listening. We know that your love has no end, that you consider my request and answer it. Thank you and Amen.

sonsofGod
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1.    041024 Audio Tape Wednesday Light Line USA; host: Lemuel

2.    Subjects: -Human participation in the missions is put off until Michael decides what to do with Urantia; -Future of the discussion forum in question; -No chance of success of a Magisterial mission under present conditions on Urantia; -Michael to put in place plan B of the missions; -the seventh bestowal experience of Michael as Jesus on Urantia has never been recounted fully; -the disappearance of the supreme is a tremendous lesson to the whole of the Master Universe; -Michael urges members not to throw in the towel as they are very precious; -Future news to come through the Sunday lightline only; -The other Lightlines to continue normally whenever possible; -New transmitters needed.

3.    Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Machiventa Melchizedek

4.    Transcribed By: Moses Ouko

5.    Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240410_110217


Lemuel
Hello and good evening, good afternoon to those of you who have joined this quite unexpected lightline this Wednesday, the 10th of April, 2024. We are just seven at the moment. Myself, Ron, Jose Vargas, Salvador, Robert from New York, George Meyer and Charlotte from Alabama. Let us see who we have here to address us this Wednesday, lightline. Excuse me.

Michael of Nebadon
Yes, this is Michael of Nebadon, Lemuel.

Lemuel
Thank you, Michael. So please go ahead when you're ready.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you, Lemuel.
This is Michael of Nebadon. And I have mixed feelings, not about what I have to say, but about the fact that you, when I say you, I am referring to all of you, those of you who have been so loyal and did in your trust for the lightlines and for the upcoming missions that you were to participate.

Well, I am sad to say that that is no longer the case. This is why I have mixed feelings. I feel for you, for every one of you. But in any case, I want you all to know your loyalty, your care, your concern, your prayers have been and are extremely grateful for all of them. Greatly appreciated. You have a saying; the writing is on the wall. You all know what that means. It is an advice, a warning. Well, this warning has been written on the wall for quite some time. And I am sure you are all aware of it. There is no point in beating about the bush any longer. The fact of the matter is, it hasn't been a complete waste of time. No, it has not. But it must be said that the result is almost zero. That is to say, from my perspective, from my point of view, with all that I can see and all that I feel and all that I know, the sum result is almost zero. Except to say, and this is important for all of you to hear, except to say, all of you have come a tremendous way. You have learnt so many things. Your faith has grown in leaps and bounds. It is not easy to become an Agondonter.  Truly, really, to believe and to trust in our faith without seeing. You are all to be commended. Your contribution has not gone unnoticed. The truth is, we cannot do what we wanted to do and in the way we had planned for. Although, as you are fully aware, the plans, many times, were off the table and then on the table, off the table, on the table, and those that finally remained on the table needed tweaking regularly, a little bit here, a little bit there, but in fact, we have reached the point now that there is no more tweaking to be done. It simply is not worth it.

As you all know, it would have been a first for human participation in a magisterial mission. At the beginning, it was totally unexpected, but way back in the 90s, at the beginning of the first teaching mission, the possibility was there. There were transmitters who were transmitting perfectly well. But it didn't and in a way couldn't last for all sorts of reasons. And then come in more up-to-date, The light lines and what Ron has put into place, the magisterial foundation, so much work, so much preparation, so much planning for the good of all. Not least of which, of course, WTP. I have made the decision, the light lines, permanently, as you have come to understand the light lines as they have been, because the sum total is precious little use. That may sound harsh to your words. It's not meant to be harsh. It is simply the truth. And sometimes, yes, the truth can be harsh. But this in no way should be interpreted as a reflection on your poor participation or in any way human fault. That is not and has not been the case. I will continue using Ron Besser, on a Sunday, for as long as he remains alive, and you all know that he can go at any moment, and the truth of the matter is, Lemuel is in the same boat.

You have known for some time that the future of the discussion forum was under a magnifying glass, so to speak. Because of such short or little participation. But I understand there are reasons for that. It is not easy to discuss something that keeps changing as often as the wind changes direction. I understand that.

You will be informed, in fact, if the light line, I'm sorry. If the discussion forum is taken down and whether or not it is worth setting up a new one. We shall see. In fact, some kind or some type of discussion forum is necessary as long as there will be a Sunday light line to report and for you to listen to the tape. So, we shall see about that. You will be informed. Yes, I know. I know I can feel what Lemuel is feeling and I know and I can feel what you are all feeling and thinking. It is disappointment yes of course it is disappointment. Well, more than that it is a shame, it is a shame that nothing can be done as long as the people on this planet behave in such a way. The atrocities that are committed every second in some place throughout the world not only is it an abomination, there are hardly no words to describe this.

What chance is there of a magisterial mission having any chance of success under the present conditions? Well, the short answer is of course None. No chance. I will not put any of my sons in danger. No way and so yes, I can see a question arising in Lemuel's mind because he is military and I know what he is thinking and yes, we could come with all the force that I have at my disposal and sort out the problems but at the same time that would create many problems.

I and those with me must now find another way. So yes there is plan B. It is such a disappointment that plan A which included human participation cannot now take place. Something I want you to consider not already considered it, you are fully aware of the uniqueness of Urantia. All the problems that it has suffered ever since the rebellion. The quarantine, no contact from Paradise. No spiritual input for so many, many years and yet I Michael of Nebadon chose this planet for my seventh and final bestowal. To live and experience what life is like as a human through Jesus. The whole of that experience has not and cannot yet be recounted. In other words, nobody knows from A to Z what took place during my seventh bestowal as Jesus. At this moment I do not know if it will ever be told. It certainly needs to be told for countless future generations as it is the history of the Lucifer Rebellion. Has been and is continuing to be studied by so many other universes knowing what took place here because of the uniqueness of Urantia. Urantia is and always has been a school of hard knocks. for that very reason that is to say as a result of the Lucifer Rebellion.

And as you know more recently the disappearing of the supreme. This is another story that has not been fully told but it must be and one day it shall be because this in and of itself the disappearance of the supreme is a tremendous lesson to learn for the whole and throughout the whole of the Master Universe. Deity, real Deity, 100% existential Deity must remain existential only. We are still experiencing the birth pangs of the new Universe Age. So many things. So many changes and yet so many new things have been found to be necessary and the changes have been put into place. And that is something ongoing and it will continue for millennia to come.

I am coming to a close in what I wanted to dictate through Lemuel. What I do not want or what I hope I will not see, is that you individually or collectively decide to throw in the towel and try to pretend that the previous 10 years or 15 years or whatever it is, has been a total and a waste of time because that is not the case. You are not the best of your own existence. Of your own progress. Your ego may try to tell you something else. Your egos know nothing of what is truth, about your spiritual advancement. I will repeat what has been said several times. It is amazing that here on Urantia, there have come to be people as yourselves bearing in mind all of the past and yet here you are. Very few in number. This is true but very precious.

My final words to all of you are, please remember why you have been brought to this point to this very moment in your lives. because your thought adjusters have brought you here and he wants you to be here and you have cooperated with him throughout so many years of your lives. it is a tremendous achievement for all of you and a tremendous success for your thought adjusters. They are greatly experienced thought adjusters. They have all had so many previous wards that could not continue. you indeed are small in numbers but very precious. Remember that. I thank you all again once more for your participation, for your loyalty, for your caring, for your prayers, thank you. And for future news look to the Sunday Lightline only with Ron Besser and I will continue to speak through Ron for as long as he is able. and so, with those few words I say once again thank you and I bid you all a very good day. thank you, Lemuel. Thank you.

Lemuel
Oh Michael. Michael thank you so much. Thank you. Just give me a moment please. Need to be quiet for a moment. Well, I'm going to take a little sip. Thank you. Well, what can I say. I'm sure you all must be thinking more or less the same things that I'm thinking and feeling at this moment and yet I can say for myself, cannot speak for any of you of course I can say for myself from my heart it has been a privilege and an honour being a part in the light lines and to share the space that we have together as a little family. To get to know each other to at least some degree and to appreciate the mutual problems that we all have to face on a daily basis. Especially us oldies. Nevertheless, I myself feel it was a great privilege and an honour to be able to serve in such a small way. All right.  Well Ron if you don't mind, I'm going to come to you now and to see if you have something that you wish to say. I will unmute you now Ron. just give me a moment.

Ron
All right. Thank you.

Lemuel
You're unmuted Ron.

Ron
Thank you, Lemuel. can you hear me?

Lemuel
Yes, I hear you fine Ron. Please go ahead if you can

Ron
All right. thank you, Michael, thank you Gabriel, thank you Universe for the opportunity to speak. I want it to be known that the last few days I've been barely able even to sit up without falling into a deep sleep. I don't know what that means but probably a conclusion to my life. I don't say that easily or simply but I've had the privilege of serving Michael, the Universe, and our Father for a number of years now and it is coming to a close. I am preferably not dying but that is entirely up to the Universe to determine what I do. To Dominick, please come over, there are some things I need to finish. Number two, I’ve got to speak to Kalk, one way or another. That is one of the things I must discuss with you when you come over Dominick.

Michael of Nebadon
And number three, please let it be known that Michael of Nebadon is in the room with Ron.

Ron
Well, thank you Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
You're welcome, Ron.

Ron
And now this; I am speaking more or less as the Universe robber of things that I thought I could do and have discovered that I can't move. Michael of Nebadon is going to make possible to do the electricity. I don't know how he's going to do it we have zero interest but the second thing involved is that Michael of Nebadon is furious with all who have participated and have not done anything to promote what can be done. That is not you ladies and gentlemen that is the world. And finally this; before Michael goes.

Michael of Nebadon
I have this to say to all of you I am Michael, please understand that the light line will go and that is it will continue on Sunday at least. Lemuel is too ill to continue every time but we are asking you Lemuel to participate when you can. Let Ron know. Number two; I Michael of Nebadon am insisting that Ron stay the course for months ahead if I need him. he is not unhappy just sleepy and ill, but that can be corrected easily. Number three or four let's call it four;   I happen to believe that the entire matter of light line, the listeners, the doers, and those who would like to hear but cannot get in, are done for now. Ron will do the light lines for Sunday and will work the light lines for Wednesday until a replacement for Lemuel, if necessary is found. Elise, on Monday is happy to continue. We expect her, Elise to continue Monday. We expect the Sunday light lines to continue with Ron. We do not know about Dominick and Tuesday. But Wednesday is done unless you Lemuel, feel you can do it and then do it. There are no other light lines scheduled. Renee and Clency may do their light lines and work it as they please. You are on when you are ready to speak. I do not mean to truncate you. And finally, this, we have 15 on the call today. I see your names, your telephone numbers, and that you have logged in at a particular time. We are going to continue the Sunday light lines. We are going to continue any light line during the week, weekend. Dominick is asked to stand down. Elise is asked to continue with Monday. Ron is to continue with Sunday. in so far as I know except when Lemuel can do it, the light lines are done, for now. And now Ron I leave and you will not fall asleep.

Ron
That is excellent Michael and I thank you for your attendance.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you. I will Not leave you Ron but listen to this before I leave. The Sunday light line is still the most important. Monday with Elise, Tuesday with Dominick, Wednesday with Lemuel will continue if you can, don't put it off if you can. It's too important. And finally, this for you Ron you are circumspect at best. You make no mention of the magisterial foundation in any of this because you leave it to me to make it work. I am now going to make it work permanently and truly for the considerable time between now and the future, when a mission will be sent to Urantia and that you will all participate. You are not taken off you, but you have to wait until I reconsider what to do with Urantia. And finally, this to you Lemuel, I'm giving this back to you shortly but Machiventa Melchizedek wishes to speak next. Thank you, Ron.

Ron
Well, thank you Michael and this is not over.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Machiventa Melchizedek now speaks. I am Fully disarranged. I did not Expect Michael to say goodbye even to Ron but I see he has not. The truth of the matter is; you all could participate but do not. Only Gitz, is unavailable because of the design of his mind. The rest of you can transmit. I want a transmitter for every day of the week if I can get them. Please sign up with Ron. if I do not hear from anybody by next Sunday and I don't mean this one but I mean the Sunday afterwards, I will truncate further. For now we have Monday light line with Elise, to continue. Tuesday with Dominick, to continue. Wednesday with Lemuel, to continue if he can. Thursday, Friday and Saturday are open days for other transmitters to transmit if they want to. We hope you do. Sunday is for sure with Ron. Now I turn to you Machiventa for an itinerary of what you expect. Thank you

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael of Nebadon and Machiventa has chosen to be silent. You’re going have to speak it, Ron. This is Michael of Nebadon. Number one; no further light lines are planned except for Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday is optional for Lemuel as he can do it. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, is open for new transmitters. If you can transmit sign up with Ron. He'll be glad to do it for you. The next item number two; I am fully sure that Ron, Lemuel, Dominick, Elise and Rene and Clency, are with us yet but there is illness upon the transmitters. Ron could barely get awake to do it today. He is expecting that you Dominick will be here this afternoon. It's important. The next item three or four I'm not sure; the truth of the advertisement is that the magisterial foundation still contains the bulk of the revelation of how to do WTP. Simple electricity broadcast rather than over wires. He will continue to put all emphasis on WTP and we demand that it be accepted. There are plans afoot between Dominick and Ron and a gentleman engineer called Kalk that must go through Dominick. And finally, this, I am not going to feature myself a lot except through Ron. The other light lines, Elise, Lemuel, Dominick, Clency, Rene, are expected to perform, please. The usual contact between Urantia and the universe is no longer in effect. I'm pulling it down. Those transmitters in the West will receive their final warning. Let yourself be open, Ron.

Ron
I'm glad to. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon
And finally, this, I am Michael of Nebadon. I have spoken the sadness of my feelings for what has happened. The Urantia Foundation has been no help. The Urantia other one, the brotherhood one time, is no longer operational fully. They have financial problems and cannot keep it going. And finally, to you, Ron, you always have financial problems. The donations of the board and those outside of the board, especially Weydevu and Carol Deptula, are deeply appreciated. Please keep them coming if you can. If not, we will take it out of our own pocket.


Ron
And finally, this, I am, and this is Ron Besser speaking, going to turn this back over to Lemuel so he can speak Machiventa Melchizedek because Machiventa Melchizedek is not happy with me. Lemuel, I'm now turning this back to you. Machiventa should be on the line for you. Go ahead.

Lemuel
All right. Thank you, Ron. Yes, Ron.

Machiventa Melchizedek.
Thank you, Lemuel.

Lemuel
Yes.

Machiventa Melchizedek.
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. I'm not going to make any further comment. But I will say a few things now through Lemuel. First of all, to thank you sincerely, Lemuel, for the way you have received the dictation from Michael of Nebadon earlier on. I personally found it quite moving myself. And what you spoke to was true. And the way you spoke was sincere and I thank you for that. For the rest, let it be known or just to remind you all that myself, as the governor of the Planet Urantia, and the whole of my movement of Melchizedeks, will remain of course at the service of Michael of Nebadon and of other celestial forces that need that which we can provide. I will not because I cannot at the moment go into any kind of detail as to what will now take place as far as we are concerned, Melchizedeks. that really depends now on the future plan that at this very moment Michael of Nebadon is looking into what can be done given the present global situation. So, I can only ask you to remain alert, please don't think that everything is just off and nothing is going to happen ever again because not the case. remain alert, remain up to date with the news but keep your own counsel. and yes, take place, take part, continue to take part in the light lines when they continue, as they continue, hopefully as is still planned. And as far as I am concerned Michael of I'm sorry Machiventa Melchizedek yes, Lemuel Machiventa Melchizedek I am here and I hope always to be here for light lines. And that's all I have to say for the time being. So, thank you, Lemuel for picking me up.

Lemuel
Well, thank you Machiventa Melchizedek, thank you. It was reassuring thank you. Well, everybody we are just five minutes away from the hour but I'm going to close it down now and it's been well, yes, an interesting lightline. I'm still feeling a little bit down I suppose I could say as I expect most of you are as well but nevertheless, we will continue as we can. Thank you for those of you who joined and I hope to be well enough to do another light line next Wednesday. I've just been informed this week that I need another operation and I have an interview with a surgeon quite soon. Anyway, so I should be still available to do next Wednesday's light line. I hope so anyway. So, until then thank you all again once more. thank you all so much. and until next week, take care, love one another, try to be happy and good night to all of you or good afternoon wherever you are.

Thank you.


 
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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: LLUSA WEDNESDAY 10 APRIL 2024
« Last post by Lemuel on April 11, 2024, 02:21:40 am »

Ron, I must tell you that I am deeply disturbed by the differences in our
transmissions during my Wednesday Lightline. I received quite clearly, that
the Lightlines had come to the end of their usefulness, except for your
 Sunday Lightline, which is to continue as long as you remain alive.

For me to receive such a clear and concise message from our Creator Son,
MICHAEL, and then just a few short minutes later to have it reversed
by your receiving, is greatly disturbing, to say the least.

The resulting confusion that this must cause in those who listen to the tape
recording, will inevitably raise doubts in their minds as to the authenticity
of these transmissions, supposedly from MICHAEL OF NEBADON.

Opposing messages will deter anyone from tuning in to any future Lightline.
Either my receiving was wrong or yours. I cannot believe that MICHAEL
would dictate something through me and the opposite through you just
minutes later.

Ron, I stand by what I received, that the Lightlines are over, except for yours,
at least for the time being, therefore there will be no further Lightlines on
Wednesday. 

Other Lightline hosts may choose to do otherwise, of course.

Ron, I felt it only right and propper that I inform you of my decision.


Lemuel



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Albert;
Location Place: ANTANANA÷R×IVO / MADAGASCAR;
Local Time : WEDNESDAY 10TH, APRIL ; 2024; 10:30 MINUTES; P.M.;ANTANANARIVO LOCAL TIME ( +03 UTC / EAT );
Subject: SUMMARIES ABOUT THE ETERNAL " I AM " BECOMIMG THE " FIRST SOURCE " OF ALL CREATIONS AND CREATURES AS  BEING GOD THE UNIVERSAL FATHER, UNTIL NOWEDAYS' REALITIES ;
Categories: MADAGASCAR  LIGHTLINE CONFERENCE CALL THE HEART OF MADAGASCAR
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Hello Dear Ron and you all Dear Sisters and Brothers and you all Dear Guests here in the forum.
Finally today WEDNESDAY 10TH, APRIL I succeded to do this report about our MLLCCTHOM we were performing .
As MC we were honored by TARKAS the One Whithout Name and Number.
As Tea⅗cher we were honored by PAUL ( of Tarsus ) ,also One Whithout Name and Number.
Because of the fact that 3/5 of the attendees are completely new ones the M.C. TARKAS talked about The " I AM " becoming later GOD THE FUNIVERSAL FATHER, GOD THE FIRST SOURCE of all 
Creations and all Creatures of which  some of the Celestial Creatures but also the Human Ones as being them all : real Children of God The UNIVERSAL FATHER,THE FIRST SOURCE.
He introduced MICHAEL OF NEBADON our direct Creator Father for all His Celestial Children as well as for us mortal Humans, planetary inhabitants of Urantia Planet where MADAGASCAR is being one part among the many inhabited countries : the World .
He explained Who were ADAM and EVE: being Material Son and Daugther as Missionaries from heaven ( from JERUSEM the Capital of  SATANIA our first step of heaven ), but Who failed before the betraial Planetary Prince of  Urantia.
He speaks about The One called The Great-Master (  Si- Jo, for us His followers in the Seventies and Eighties ) as being a genuine Divine  Missionary, even though, completely unknown of us , the Malagasy People.
The session ended after Half an One hour. 
The recordings should be posted later for any Malagasy listeners because we will still organizing ourselves materially  as being so poor.
ANNOUNCEMENT : The MLLCCTHOM would continue to  do the Work of God every WEDNESDAY at 12:30 MINUTES for the maximum number of FIVE (5) attendees authorized by any phone providers here in our country.
Thank you all reading.
DOMTIA
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The Host : Albert. 


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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / LLUSA WEDNESDAY 10 APRIL 2024
« Last post by Lemuel on April 10, 2024, 15:10:20 pm »

MICHAEL OF NEBADON spoke of the decisions now taken regarding 

the Magisterial Mission.

Link to the recording with Lemuel your host:


https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240410_110217
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This is MICHAEL OF NEBADON

PART II

Today’s Lightline is about to end 14 years of constant contact to Urantia through the Lightline series.  I am no longer bothering to do them unless there is a change in the heart, of not you Ron, but the roller coaster we have operating right now with no intense interest other than to round up a bunch of people for a dictation, and that is it.  The western transmitters as Ron calls them have not shown any real interest except to keep the flow going, and that is not what I want now.

For reasons of State, please keep in mind I want a Mission, but I am not doing a Mission with only one use of the figurement and that is not necessarily Ron, but he is the one who remains loyal to us and does as expected.

For that reason, I am shutting down all Lightlines except that which Ron holds on Sunday, and all others are now truncated until I decide just what is to be done.  Ron will let you known just what is going on later on.  I quite this announcement now.  K

The Wednesday Lightline is on today in about an hour.  Enjoy it while you can.

Michael of Nebadon
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Michael of Nebadon
Announcing the End of the Teaching Missio
Other speeches to follow/
Part 1
April 10, 2024

There is a fundamental change to contact now.  Contact was and is still used to reach human minds so that we have a continuum of voicing according to the Magisterial Sons and Daughters (more on this later), then we did before.  Do not lament this, but address Michael of Nebadon, the Fair Axis of Employment.

First let me explain something.  I did not get up until 1130am exhausted and not clear in my mind, as I had a night’s sleep full of what you might call “old films,” looking back at the 19th century this morning.  I was out and asleep from midnight last night until noon today, and unable to move at all in the bed.  I was subject to a night of old film and old interviews with the men (mostly) of old who started producing contact with the spirit universe in those days.

I had pictures in motion how they tried to place some of the contact material in archives for future use, but that they all found it impossible to make sense of common courtesy archives of what they did.  What did they do?

From about 1870 to 1910 they put together whole groups of spirit contact with people such as Stainton Moses and Paschal Beverly Randolph and Emma Hardinge Britten,  were among the most celebrated lecturers and authors on the subject in the mid-19th century. Allan Kardec coined the term Spiritualism around 1860 [blurb of names is from the internet].  Dr, William S. Sadler, the head of the continuum of these activities in the production of the great 5th epochal revelation beginning in 1926 (not 1928 as current historians related to the subject), and ended in 1943 actually, but historians prefer to think it ended in 1942, is a good example of how this series of revelation began.

I am not writing about the revelation now, that is the 5th epochal revelation, but I have received this morning a hodge podge of old films and professors of that era, speaking in old pictures and daguerreotype motion pictures.   The daguerreotype is a direct-positive process, creating a highly detailed image on a sheet of copper plated with a thin coat of silver without the use of a negative. The process required great care.   In any case I was shown old films of men who were doctors of their day and an almost endless picture of the spiritualism practiced in the later 19 and early 20th century.

Whatever purpose this served it was over by 11am and I am writing this at noon.  However, let me say this: what I experienced showed me how puny that contacts actually were, and that our understanding must come from the really serious attempts TODAY to figure out what has actually happened between MICHAEL OF NEBADON, GABRIEL, and the actors of that era, including the TEACHING MISSION, were fabricated until this month– April of 2024.  Let me explain something I have been given:

1 - The character actors of this era are Half Moon Bay, Gerdean, other names of act oars galore as Teaching Mission hummers who did transmit Michael of Nebadon and the others who acted for the spirit mission to Urantia from 1992 to 2014 or actually to 2012 when the release of information was really put to the test to obtain information among transmitters for a mission to Urantia, supposedly done from 1992 to 2014.  It actually faltered until 2012, but we can argue about that later.

2 - I am keeping this light and simple and will be back today to explain something that is detrimental to you but not to me at the moment.  You my friends on this Board have now got to understand spiritualism through a new mode, and I am not sure I am explaining it correctly yet either.  But Michael of Nebadon, has decided that this current round up of transmitters are useless, and that the archive Ron produced as Tmarchives is useless to understand what has really happened, but it is the only lasting contribution to the era made from 1992 to 2010, and after 2010 there is scant reason to refer to those activities as useful anymore.

3 - Finally Lightlines.  They are successful and today’s Lightline is not over for there are excellent reasons to speak spiritually to you as a group.  Lemuel is so sick I doubt he can do anything today, so Ron you cohabit with Lemuel to help him out.  I have nothing to say further until later.  Thank you.

MICHAEL OF NEBADON
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TRANSLATIONS / 10.4.2024 – Czasy przemian w kryzysie Urantii
« Last post by Andre_P on April 10, 2024, 12:02:27 pm »
Ta sama wiadomość po angielsku i po hiszpańsku :
https://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=21200.msg103083#msg103083
Podał : Rene A Duran, członek bohater
Kategoria / Temat : LIGHTLINE PO HISZPAŃSKU DLA WSZYSTKICH / CZASY PRZEMIAN W KRYZYSIE URANTII
« 9 kwietnia 2024 r., godz. 15:35:11 »

Grupa 11:21 - Przekazywanie prawd, Phoenix, Arizona

CZASY PRZEMIAN W KRYZYSIE URANTII

Od PLEJADIAN
Odebrane przez Evelio Rivasa
Salwador, 8 kwietnia 2024 r., godz. 4:30


PLEJADIANIE :
"Tu Plejadianie. Jesteśmy tutaj na Urantii, aby was wspierać. Chcemy służyć w tym procesie transformacji, który zapoczątkowaliście. Jedną z cech jest to, że pojmujecie w sposób pionowy wszystkie relacje z Boskością, jest to konsekwencją wpływu tego, że ziemska kultura została zabarwiona buntowniczym myśleniem. Jasne jest, że nie mamy tego charakteru, który został namalowany.

Jesteśmy tu jako komisja upoważniona do zapewnienia pomocy i żeby pomagać we wszystkim, czego potrzebujecie i do czego nasze możliwości mogą wam służyć. Chcemy podkreślić, że sprawa Ziemi jest bardzo znana od jakiegoś czasu. Chodzi o to, że populacja cierpi na sen, powiedzielibyśmy endemiczny i nie wchodzi w dostrojenie. Pozwoliliście swojej pięknej planecie wejść w kryzys, który dziś wydaje się endemiczny. W związku z tym chcemy powiedzieć, że to, co powiedział wasz wybitny mistrz SAMAEL, jest dokładnie prawdą : "Sąsiadujące ludzkości przygotowują się do pomocy w kryzysie Ziemi, ale istoty ziemskie nie zdają sobie z tego sprawy.

To jest stan bardzo godny pożałowania, że nie jesteście świadomi kryzysu, przez który przechodzicie.

Jednym z działających czynników, który musicie pokonać, jest uznanie tego, że jesteście silnie zakorzenieni w ziemskim sposobie myślenia - myślicie, że możecie się dostosować do wszystkiego, co przedstawi wam środowisko i to jest w porządku do punktu, w którym staje się to nawykiem pozwalającym kryzysowi iść naprzód ryzykując wynik, który może być zaskoczeniem. Innym czynnikiem zakorzenionym w umysłach Urantii jest przekonanie, że możecie sobie poradzić ze wszystkim. Powiedzielibyśmy, że to jest maczyzm, które jest również płci żeńskiej, żeby przypominać sobie o BOGU dopiero wtedy, kiedy pojawia się siła, która może was przyćmić. To znaczy, że decydujecie się nie pamiętać o Stwórcy, dopóki nie pojawi się niebezpieczeństwo, którego nie możecie opanować.

Takie myślenie opiera się na nieposłuszeństwie i odmowie słuchania wezwań do rozsądku, braterstwa, pokoju dryfując tymczasem nadal jako rasa i popadając w rutynę, że jakoś przetrwamy i nie zwracając uwagi na to, co sie dzieje wewnątrz siebie.

Chcemy podkreślić, że bez dokonywania wewnętrznych korekt niemożliwe jest pójście naprzód. Walka musi być prowadzona wewnątrz siebie. Wyjście na zewnątrz jest dla was interesujące przedłużając sen, który już obciąża wasze dusze, które przestaliście karmić. W zasadzie powiedzielibyśmy, że pilne jest zmniejszenie ego.

Tu Plejadianie. Jesteśmy zadowoleni z ewolucji, którą przechodzicie. Życzymy wszystkim postępu. Miłego dnia.”

Koniec

Evelio Rivas
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Group 11:21 Transmission of Truths Phoenix AZ.

 "TIMES OF TRANSITION IN THE URANTIA CRISIS"

 By: THE PLEIADIANS.
 Received: Evelio Rivas.

 El Salvador, April 8, 2024, 4:30 a.m.


 THE PLEIADIANS:
 "We are the PLEIADIANS, we are here on Urantia to support you, we wish to serve in this transition process that you have begun, one of the characteristics is that you conceive of any relationship with Divinity in a vertical manner, this is a consequence of the influence that terrestrial culture "It has been dyed with rebellious thinking, it is clear that we do not have that character that they have painted us."

 "We are as a commission authorized to provide relief and help in everything you need, our capacity can serve you, we want to point out that the terrestrial case has been very noticeable for some time, the issue is that the population suffers from a dream that we would say is endemic, and is not in tune, has allowed its beautiful planet to enter the crisis that today seems endemic, with this we wish to express that what was said by your Distinguished Master SAMAEL is exactly the truth, 'the neighboring humanities are preparing to help in the terrestrial crisis and the terrestrials do not realize it'"

 "It is a very unfortunate condition that you do not realize the crisis you are going through"

 "There are factors that affect this, it is necessary to overcome them, one is the adaptation that is strongly rooted in terrestrial thinking, they think that they can adapt to everything that the environment presents to them, that is fine up to the point where it is already done habit, letting the crisis advance, compromising the outcome that it may have by taking them by surprise, another factor rooted in the Urantian mind is the belief that they can do everything, machismo we would say, which is also of the female sex, remembering GOD until it arises a force that can eclipse them, this means that they choose not to remember the Creator until there is a danger that they cannot control."

 "This thinking is sponsored by disobedience, and they have not wanted to listen to the calls that have been made to them for sanity, for brotherhood, for peace, meanwhile they continue to distance themselves as a race and enter into routines to survive without paying attention to what What happens inside"

 "We want to point out that without making internal adjustments it is impossible to move forward, the fight has to be spent within oneself, spending outside is interesting for them, prolonging the sleep that already weighs on their souls that they have stopped feeding, basically, we would say that it is urgent to reduce the ego"

 "We are the PLEIADIANS, pleased with the evolution they are having, we wish everyone progress, have a good day."

 End.

 Evelio Rivas.


Grupo 11:21 Transmisión de Verdades Phoenix AZ. 

"TIEMPOS DE TRANSICIÓN EN LA CRISIS DE URANTIA"

Por: LOS PLEYADIANOS.
Recibió: Evelio Rivas. 

El Salvador, 8 de abril 2024, 4:30 a.m.


LOS PLEYADIANOS:
"Nosotros somos los PLEYADIANOS, estamos aquí en Urantia para apoyarles, deseamos servir en este proceso de transición que han iniciado, una de las características es que conciben de manera vertical toda relación con la Divinidad, esto es consecuencia de la influencia que la cultura terrestre ha sido teñida con el pensar rebelde, es claro, que no somos con ese carácter que nos han pintado"

"Estamos como una comisión autorizada para brindar socorro, y ayuda en todo lo que necesiten, nuestra capacidad puede servirles, queremos señalar, que el caso terrestre es muy notorio desde hace algún tiempo, el asunto es que la población padece un sueño diríamos endémico, y no entra en sintonía, ha dejado que su hermoso planeta se adentre en la crisis que hoy parece endémica, con esto deseamos expresar, que lo dicho por vuestro Insigne Maestro SAMAEL es exactamente la verdad, 'las humanidades vecinas se preparan para ayudar en la crisis terrestre y los terrestres no se dan cuenta'"

" Es una condición muy lamentable que ustedes no se den cuenta de la crisis que están pasando"

" En esto hay factores que inciden, se hace necesario superarlos, uno es la adaptación que está fuertemente arraigado en el pensar terrestre, piensan que pueden adaptarse a todo lo que el medio les presenta, eso está  bien hasta el punto en que ya se hace hábito, dejando a la crisis avanzar,  comprometiendo el desenlace que pueda tener tomándoles por sorpresa, otro factor arraigado en la mente urantiana es la creencia que pueden con todo, machismo diríamos, el cual también es del sexo femenino, recordar a DIOS hasta que surge una fuerza que pueda eclipsarlos, esto se traduce que eligen no acordarse del Creador hasta que hay un peligro que no pueden dominar"

"Este pensar es auspiciado por la desobediencia, y no han querido escuchar los llamados que se les han hecho a la cordura, a la hermandad, a la paz, entre tanto continúan alejándose como raza y adentrándose en rutinas para sobrevivir sin prestar atención a lo que pasa en su interior"

"Queremos señalar, que sin hacer ajustes internos es imposible avanzar,  la lid ha de pasarse dentro de sí mismo, pasar afuera les resulta interesante prolongando el sueño que ya pesa sobre sus almas que han dejado de alimentar, básicamente, diríamos que urge achicar al ego"

"Nosotros somos los PLEYADIANOS, complacidos con la evolución que van teniendo, deseamos progreso a todos, pasen buenos días".

Fin.

Evelio Rivas. 
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General Discussion / The sound of silence
« Last post by Clency on April 09, 2024, 14:41:11 pm »
When I was a younger lad, about ten years old, my dear father taught me a lesson, by saying that I must pay attention to nature’s behavior. He said to me : “Son, when there is calmness all around the place, you can be of certainty that something awful will occur.” Having grown-up in a tropical island where cyclones are common denominators, my father’s lesson has been very useful and each time there is like an atmosphere of quietness, I say to myself that something great is going to happen. Do you hear the sound of silence ? I have the gut feeling that something great is waiting ahead which will take us by surprise. Some countries in the world have been recently experiencing natural disasters because of climate change. The time is ripe for a celestial breakthrough, we have been waiting so long, it is now or never.
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