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  • 031724 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser; other transmitters: Dominick and Lemuel
  • Subjects: the Urantia core has returned to normal, Machiventa Melchizedek will now appear on Urantia again, Mansion World Five had not been used for students for the last ten years or so but is now in use, Mansion World Four is not currently in use for students, On Urantia today biology, technology, and spiritual evolution are all going backward not forward, and it is best humans not try to influence others with new revelation unless they ask for it;
  • Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Semsatia, Arthura, and Machiventa Melchizedek;
  • Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240317_110059 

Ron Besser  
Hello, everyone. This is the Sunday Light Line for March 17, 2024. I'm Ron Besser, your host, and welcome everyone.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon, Ron. We welcome what is 14 listeners today, we're down about 10. And that is normal after we have had what we will call the final instructions from me concerning Urantia. I want every one of you to know, don't stop your support. For reasons of our own, Ron, and almost all the transmitters have become very ill.

Ron Besser  
Poor Elise contracted Spanish flu on a visit to Spain this past week. She is so ill, she'll never get out of bed and her husband got it as well and he's in bed as well. Other than that Lemuel and I are just so old, we get sick, just if you look at us wrong and we are holding forth, as best we can to hold the Light Lines. Dominick is maybe going to take some of this today for the simple reason I get out of breath with how low my energy is. I insist that the Light Lines continue and that we hold them as regularly as we can on the old schedule. That said, this is Michael:

Michael of Nebadon  
For reasons of our own, Ron you are going to be returned to a slightly better vitality in order for you to continue working what is important to us now. The Magisterial Foundation, in and of itself is probably one of the wealthiest foundations in the world. Someone is going to come along Ron and insist that the patent you hold and have dedicated to the Magisterial Foundation will be used and built quickly. For that reason, then, we are going to tell you this everybody: wireless electricity, which we call WTP.

Ron Besser  
Excuse me, let me get rid of this. Hold on. Okay, I'm back.

Michael of Nebadon  
Now, the truth of the matter is that the cabal is strongly ringed around you today, Ron, for the simple reason you refuse to have any conversation with them. That is unfortunate. But every time you do you get hit.

Ron Besser  
Yes, I do.

Michael of Nebadon  
The truth of the matter is you are now protected with a ring of steel. They can't get in, they will not interfere with this telephone call. And furthermore, the entire issue concerning you, Dominick and Arthura are now to be reimpressed over a Light Line today over a new subject. That subject is this: what are we going to do with a United States that is preparing to cause a war with China if China does not desist on ruling everybody in the South China Sea. The United States considers the Gulf of Mexico its own sea even though it abuts Central America. The United States has often behaved that way with Cuba. Now it seems China is taking a leaf from American behavior and insisting that the South China Sea is mostly it's to protect. We can't predict what this will require. But we are also seeing the hostility grow between Taiwan, China, and therefore between China and the United States. Japan is rearming. South Korea is becoming an ally of Japan. We do not know how that will affect any moves from North Korea itself.

Now, let me go on to something else. Recently, Ron, you have discussed and posted from the power directors, the problem with the Urantia core. The core in any planet keeps the magnetic lines properly over the poles. And why do you need the magnetosphere over both poles? You don't really need it to maintain life. But the entire matter of a good and clear atmosphere depends on the magnetic lines that affect weather. The westerly winds that blow over the United States are normal today. They were not normal two weeks ago. And for that reason, you would find that there are extreme weather conditions, such as blizzards that take down or bring down abnormally cold air from the upper regions of the poles.

For that reason, we looked at the core to see what it was doing and discovered it had stopped moving. It sat in a pile against the wall. And the power directors finally came to Ron and said you ought to issue a bulletin concerning the condition. If it goes out of control, that is a hotspot that produces venting. We are quite sure there is a lot of danger for the missions and for the people on Urantia. For that reason, we had just before this Light Line started a brief review of the core with the power directors to the people we had not yet muted. The proposition is that the core is moving normally again today over northern Siberia or I should say under northern Siberia.

And lastly this: the entire mission that we have promised so long is not available today. But I'll be darned if I'm going to allow all this planning to falter. The Magisterial Foundation, which is Ron's contribution so all of you can participate live in a spiritual mission. That has never been done before people. I want you to understand that the entire matter concerning the Magisterial Foundation: its participation is under the direct control, not only of the Melchizedeks but also of a Lanonandek delegation that has arrived on Urantia, I asked to take form. Ron is wary, it is a Lanonandek group that rebelled as Lucifer.

Furthermore, the insurrection we have today is under the Vorondadek order. Neither one is pleasantly done with Ron ever. He doesn't like dealing with them. Furthermore, I am now ordering that the Melchizedeks insofar as the Magisterial Foundation is concerned are to adopt the attitude that Ron has, please; and that is ignore the insurrection that has taken place mostly in our planetary system, but not here on Urantia directly. For that reason then the insurrection that you addressed this morning, Ron is beginning to pack up and go. How far away? Or how long? We can't guess.

Ron says to me this morning; I feel sorry for you, Michael. What a mess in trying to protect a planet that is defaulting in so many ways. War is appearing again. And we are quite unhappy that the entire matter has been transcended not by Father, but by Lanonandek Sons who feel it is trivial. Well, maybe it is. Let's hope so. But the truth of the matter is, there is nothing left for the missions to do but to assume they must somehow abate.

Don't forget that the Magisterial Sons are already in a Mission, invisible. That it began, weeks and weeks ago. Monjoronson, Serara, Henson, Sen Sen are all familiar names to you. They were to be visible, but not now. That is not just a result of the Israeli war, or the Ukraine war but the result of the population in certain parts of the world, swarming up the land areas to the south, to the north in the United States and in Europe, to Greece, United Kingdom and the EU. These are to place it quietly and voluntarily not the best people to mix with the white race. This becomes racial, if we're not careful. For that reason, I am asking the Planetary Prince, Mantutia Melchizedek to stop the flow, if he can. His report is that it is like trying to stop a train without brakes. The people are unreasonable and it should be stopped at once but there is no determination either by the political administration in Mexico or the United States to do much about it. Therefore, I Michael of Nebadon will do something about it. I leave it at that point. 

Now this: I am Michael of Nebadon. And I am quite sure that all of you have good and substantial reasons to look at the discussion forum as moribund. Ron says; I really don't care what they look at it as, it stays because we need it. So we get a different group who is better attuned to the idea of missions than perhaps some of you. For that particular reason, Ron, the discussion forum is reinforced to stay into place regardless of attempts to hack you down. It cannot be hacked down for the simple reason it's not visible anymore. You lost the header on your discussion forum display and you can't get it back. Why you?

Ron Besser  
I do not know that was cabal, but there is no reason that the top disappears and only the group posts appear to you. I am quite sure it was meant to do that. But the repair is impossible unless we reinstitute the original software onto the server.

Michael of Nebadon  
That you don't want to do, Ron. So you live with the header missing. I'm assuming you know what you're doing.

Ron Besser  
Of course

Michael of Nebadon  
And now this Ron: the entire issue concerning Light Lines, which you briefly discussed with those before you started the transmissions here, is to continue. You are quite sure that they are valuable and that they can be improved. Your transmitters are almost all sick, except for Dominick and perhaps Rene. The other ones are almost in bed because of illnesses. You consider it spiritual commands that have taken a lot of this service out of public view.

From now on Ron, you are protected from them, and for that reason, Light Lines will continue. We would prefer one a day. But you don't have the transmitters to do it and those in the West refuse to cooperate. Here's the reason why. They consider the Magisterial Foundation a usurpation. Why? You have made it clear that you are to reproduce the Urantia Foundation through the Magisterial Foundation if they continue to default. They are in default and that's the Urantia Foundation based on the summary affair of the Lanonandek Sons reporting, that there is no further need for the dissemination, no further need for the dissemination of the Fifth Epochal Revelation. Why? This is Michael of Nebadon. That's because the Fifth Epochal Revelation is so full of errors now, you are misinformed.

Now this group happens to know what is and what isn't right. But you are a group perhaps up to 100 that knows that. But to disseminate it to the millions is asking for big trouble. The Urantia Foundation has been informed no further publication of the Fifth Epochal Revelation until further notice. They are not informed verbally. They are informed spiritually. However, leadership in that particular foundation happens to be deaf. They are proceeding to republish the Urantia Book, the Fifth Epochal Revelation fresh. Ron says you can only throw your hands up from this side. I don't know what you can do from your side. I'm sure it's a secret. The truth of the matter Ron, it's no longer a secret. The Fifth Epochal Revelation is now considered the wrong thing to do.

I'm trying to give you the word verabond, Ron, and you are not aware, there is such a word in the English language and are trying to correct it to the English language, and you can't. I am using the word Verabond, V E R A B O N D in a new meaning, it is a Spanish-sounding word that means: too diseased to work in the fields. The Urantia Book has now so many errors in it it should not be in the field to work. You who love the book, as Ron does, keeps it ready by his side all the time because it's got plenty of good references. You know where it is not right. But millions who might pick it up do not know. The concept of the supreme in particular has to be removed. God the Ultimate is not supreme, but he allows certain supreme developments to take place without the supreme.

And finally, this to you Ron, you are seeing nothing but fog. Your eyes are just refusing to work properly. That will dissipate not, shortly but during the day you may notice that there is a sharpness to view, you have never seen before. We are working on getting the eyesight replaced. You are not going to die shortly, but in sure feels like that. And finally this: the entire matter concerning the Sunday Light Line will continue under you, Ron with the help of other transmitters if they are willing.

Dominick in about five to 10 minutes we are coming to you to transmit if you will please. That is not because Ron cannot transmit. It's because we need to hear from you. Your connections are slightly different than what Ron uses. And in a few moments, we are going to report that the condition of the transmitters for Light Line on this particular schedule will continue well and that more will be added when we are sure we have good transmitters.

And finally this from Michael: I am quite sure that there are Missions. I've had to pull back what we talked about for years only because we are lacking the personnel to carry them out well enough. Therefore the Magisterial Sons are going to carry the bulk. They will not be visible unlike what Ron thought even a week ago. And now this: what visibility of the missions you will have will be constructed through the reappearance not of Jesus but of Machiventa Melchizedek in order to set the record straight. This is a brand-new approach. And you better just sit back, relax, and get used to the idea the world has no idea of what a Melchizedek appearance looks like.

We are not quite sure what to tell you. But the Melchizedeks already own the Magisterial Foundation. Ron made sure that they received it. He is set back and allows the chairmanship to be under Manituba Melchizedek. And that the Planetary Prince has authority over Manituba and the Magisterial Foundation. Ron owns a patent so worthwhile that it will probably perpetuate this foundation if not for decades, at least for perhaps a century or more. In the meantime, Ron must go to the mansion worlds. So must Dominick, Elise, and all the transmitters. For reasons of our own, we are insisting that they arrive on Mansonia number Four and speak to the Urantia group. There are now two that have formed on the mansion worlds. One is on Mansion World Three. One is on Mansion World Five. Four is no longer being used. And now this: here is Mansion World Five speaking as the head of the Urantia study group there.

Ron Besser  
One moment.

Marian Rowley  
I am Marian Rowley. Any of you in the early days of reading the Urantia Book and had questions and who would call the Foundation it was I who answered the phone. It was I who answered your question. Upon my death several years ago, I arrived for resurrection on Mansion World Three. I was told I was allowed to form a Urantia group on the mansion worlds now. We did so. There are about 50 of us who have joined the mansion world group. Suddenly, in this past year 2023, Ron arrived without knowing who we are. The soul coordinates with Ron on his experiences on the mansion worlds. And Ron was allowed to speak to us quite a bit for months. That has now been rescinded. Truly, Ron only because we have reorganized on a new Mansion World Five that has not had mansion world students on it for over a decade. Five is now being used as a mansion world outlet for student instruction concerning the Sixth Epochal Revelation, you Ron will receive it. You will publish it, Ron. But we will be with you in the study. You smile. 

Ron Besser  
Oh, I like that.

Marian Rowley  
I do too, Ron. Thank you. And now this: the truth of the matter is Ron, your eyesight is being dimmed on you as you speak.

Ron Besser  
It's like looking through a dense fog.

Marian Rowley  
And for that reason, Ron we are going to pass some of this over to you Dominick to further transmit for us.

Ron Besser  
Let me unmute you. Dominick, you're unmuted. Would you take a transmission, please?

Dominick  
Yeah, hi, bro. Yeah.

Ron Besser  
Well then go ahead. Thanks a lot.

Dominick  
Okay. All right. Welcome everybody. It's a pleasure to get back on the horse. Let's see what we got. A little committee buddy coming through.

Semsatia  
Go with it Dominick, this is a name a new name Semsatia starts with the letters S E M as in Melchizedek. As Semsatia I am attached to those like Arthura to be of service in between. We don't normally have time to talk but there is an urgency to the emergencies going forth throughout the multiple planets associated with the missions. There is in this standpoint you could say moment a detachment from Urantia, this planet I am speaking to today, from a comingled mission. These other planets are not in any less in need of missions themselves. But their status as a bestowal planet warrants their own unique experience and ministry and Urantia takes its bestowal status unto itself.

Arthura is not unique to this planet but serves at Michael's behest throughout Nebadon. But you can take learnings from other planets that Arthura commissions, with Michael's approval. The status of Urantia is of no concern to any of you in so much as you treat it like the secondary priority to your bank account. Nothing wrong with that. That is completely normal but that you should begin to link the two as they do merge ever closer to real impacts on your life. It is time to circle the wagons because we have the sad assessment that we cannot possibly save everyone and it is to your danger to assume you can, to try that you must instead in some sense go underground, not literally, but figuratively that you have decided what you decide there's just no way for you anymore to minister through the Fifth Epochal Revelation, a change in humanity; let alone an individual.

What has happened has happened, the fruits of the field are in harvest and those who heard or tasted of the truth of the information of Revelation, to change your status as a spiritual being has not taken effect for enough of humanity that it is a priority or even a trajectory that will improve over time unless something new is introduced. We cannot affect spiritual progress anymore. Some of this is technology and some of it is biology. And the, for example, in the Fifth Epochal Revelation that was informed the biology of humanity had advanced regardless of the spiritual and technological advancements but the biology never fully took effect from the missions of Adam and Eve.

And so, now all three trajectories, all three streams; biology, technology, and spiritual evolution are phasing downwards. This is an emergency in the eyes of Nebadon, in the eyes of Salvington, and does not go unnoticed on Uversa. However, these other planets mentioned do not suffer the current fate they have at least one aspect of their evolution on a positive trajectory. Therefore, do we recommend the habit or the caution not of opening yourselves to the opinions of others to the effect that you wish to impart information to benefit them. The instinct is to portray information that you assume the other will be interested in and you make the assumption that their Thought Adjuster is the one to control the distribution of the comprehension.

Just don't make that mistake anymore, if you could walk away from today's Light Line from Semsatia, it is that. You try or you do this ministry through your service to them that they may need, or that you sense they may need and that advice and opinion is useless unless asked for. Therefore, should you put yourselves in positions that you are asked and simply never to your danger now, offer it unsolicited and certainly not in judgment. You have better things to do with your life and your energy. In the meantime, this is Semsatia, you will hear from the attributed sons such as Arthura in the near future but not likely from those of my order to accompany them. Thank you and as is said, good day.

Dominick  
Thank you, Semsatia.

Arthura  
This is Arthura. Thank you Semsatia. And listen up, back to you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
All right. Thank you, Semsatia. And thank you Dominick for transmitting.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. I want you to understand Ron, that the entire matter regarding the fogging of your eyesight right now and the increased detention of what you consider your transmitting abilities is not really affected. That is the work of Uversa, reversing some of the problems that you have both with the eyesight and with your vitality. For reasons of your own, you're going to see Dominick later today and you need to discuss the following:

Ron Besser  
Yeah, thank you help me remember this, Dominick. Go ahead, Machiventa, please. Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
It is a good advice to you, Dominick, please try to remember this: the entire matter of the Magisterial Foundation is not up for questioning Ron. But your participation is more and more difficult due to the idea that you are being transcending to the mansion worlds because of your death. You feel it particularly vile today because your eyesight is being fooled with and your sense of brain work seems to have a lot of pressure on it.

Ron Besser  
That's true. I feel like I'm being pushed back.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Truly, you're not. The truth of the matter is, this is the final summary of the changes put into effect for the past, oh, let's say three months. You don't mind so long as you can walk, you can get outdoors and you can move about under your usual routines. That will be afforded easily again, you will feel new vitality, and a new sense of worth coming your way, because of what we're going to do as rulers of the Magisterial Foundation, and you're saying please take it. The truth of the matter is, you are the human chairman, and easily accede to the Melchizedeks, anything they want, and will put into place anything they degree. We are also under Christ Michael. We are also under Michael of Nebadon. We are also under Jesus. And for our own reasons, everybody, this whole matter of the Magisterial Foundation takes on a new virtue.

What might be the new virtue? Mostly, the fact that you are revitalized, Ron. Truly, and that the entire matter that you must contend with is about to appear on your doorstep. We have it well that the United States Department of Energy now understands the patent. They have contacted Attorney Ream, your attorney over the issue of preparticles. He says insofar as he can determine a preparticle is full of specks that Ron calls ultimatons. And that the specks can be moved around. And if you know what speck to move, you can get work out of the preparticle by assigning it to a generator and having reproduction of those preparticles that carry the amperage of all Urantia electricity operating at 110 over 60 up to 120 over 65.

For that reason, then we say this: the truth of the matter is Ron, the Energy Department will contact you and make it clear that patent is for the United States only. And you are not going to go to Japan or Great Britain first. Why would they say that? You haven't indicated it Ron, but you want to go through the Embassy of both the United Kingdom and Japan to assign some work to them if they are willing to take it on. I agree they probably will. But you have been very careful to keep quiet while the United States was supposed to make some issues. They have not and will not until you make an assignment we think to United Kingdom. They are not aware of you Ron. But please contact the Great Britain or the English station or their ambassador from Great Britain. He is a willing and fruitful individual and you have all the credentials you will ever need.

Now this: I am quite sure that I, Machiventa Melchizedek am speaking to a man who has difficulty in keeping his vitality going even during the Light Line call. You are seeing a change in variability of the eyesight. You said it looks like I'm looking through fog. The truth of the matter is you are. We don't need to discuss it here. But the truth of the matter is we must revitalize this character of the body for you to continue with vitality. Don't think death. Think of a future that goes on for years. Yes. Now this, you just had an exchange with Father, in the silence of your own circuit. Father has reaffirmed and I heard it, that you shall work easily and well for years to come so long as you have some help. That's because you've got so much on you you don't and can't operate normally without a good second in command. You have determined that that should be Dominick. But if Dominick falters, we will find you another. And now this: we still have about 10 minutes to the hour and this Light Line is full of important information. This item: we are ready to go to you, Lemuel, if you are able to transmit.

Ron Besser  
One moment til I find you here and unmute you. Lemuel, I have unmuted you. Can you transmit?

Lemuel  
I'll certainly do my best, Ron. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
All right, then. Go ahead and take it. I think it's Machiventa.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Yes, indeed I am Machiventa Melchizedek. And thank you Lemuel being able to pick me up. What I'm able to say through you Lemuel, I know you're not very well, but you're well enough to take me. What I need to say through you is well, I've spoken about it before the admiration that we all have for you humans who have taken so much interest and and your loyalty to remain and maintain your interest in what we are trying to do and have been trying to do for years, as you well know; that is to say the missions. You have become aware that my order of Melchizedek are an emergency order, that is to

Lemuel  
Excuse me a moment. this is Lemuel, Excuse me, I must do something. Sorry about that. Yes, I had to put something into my mouth to make me feel better and speak better hopefully. I'm sorry, Machiventa, please go ahead when you can.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
That's all right. I completely understand Lemuel. Thank you. The, yes, you have come to understand that my order which is in fact sometimes referred to as an emergency order, we are able to put our hand to everything. We have been in existence for countless number of years and therefore our experience is vast. I personally cannot envision any circumstance that we have not come to terms with beforehand. But at the same time, I must remind you that the circumstances here on Urantia are so unique. They are as he would term, really mind-boggling.

I know I've spoken about this before, but it is true and I know you're fully aware of it. There is, yes, I will use the word likelihood, there is a likelihood of war. I mean, World War. We and so many other organizations are really monitoring this extremely carefully. We do not want and I would like to reassure you, we will not allow, Father will not allow a nuclear war because obviously, the results of that, well it’s simply unspeakable. There is a certain president of a country, which I'm not going to name but I'm sure you can read between my words who appears to be quite willing to use nuclear armaments strategically so to speak.

Well, we shall see, we are able to monitor the minds of those in such high authority and power. These who are so extremely dangerous to society in general. So, in other words, we are keeping full tabs on those in high authority in various countries around the world. But that does not alter the fact that war is likely. But we will do all that we can do or rather, yes, even I am now been corrected, or that we are allowed to do, not just what we are able to but what we are allowed to do to try to mitigate the effect of another war. Historically speaking, war has always produced new things, new thinking. And obviously it has always decreased to some extent, the population.

You all know, during the last century, two world wars followed by the Korean War, the Vietnamese War and so many other smaller wars which caused the deaths of so many millions of men, women, and children. Urantia is overpopulated by billions. But I don't want you to run away with the idea that we will allow a certain amount of war in certain places so that the depopulation can take place. I don't want you to run away with that idea. But at the same time, what I am able to tell you is that because of the effect mentally and emotionally, of so many people around the world, to have to face another war situation that will in and of itself cause them to pass over naturally.

But coming back to the moment here now, with this Light Line, you've been told many times that We regard the Light Lines as extremely important, and they are. And it is Our wish that they continue well into the future, to coincide with the Magisterial Missions. They will take place. That which has been set up will be used by Us. We will control it under the auspices of Michael of Nebadon, of course, and also Father. So, although in recent months, it's been up and down, on and off so many times.

Let me once more, try to reassure you that the Mission is on, although it's invisible, it's on and it will continue to be on. For well, well well into the future. And I want to thank you once more for your loyalty and for your continued interest and support for these Light Lines, as well as everything else. We know what is in your hearts and in your minds and you are admired and loved beyond your comprehension. We appreciate you so much. Thank you, Lemuel. This is all I have to say. I step back now. Good day.

Lemuel  
Well, thank you Machiventa Melchizedek, thank you so much for those words. All right, Ron, I pass it back to you now, if I may. Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you very much, Lemuel, and thank you Machiventa Melchizedek for speaking so clearly.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa, to you, Ron, and thank you. You are the wellwisher that these things be concluded successfully today even though you feel that there is a tremendous amount of problems for you and for the organization. You're not wrong, but it's not because of us or because of you. You're going to meet a difficulty with the transmitters out west because they feel that you are transmitting incorrectly. For reasons of state, they will not be corrected. But for reasons of state, there is an issue they must address. And that is we spoke this morning briefly and you said to me, Michael needs a human unity in its approach to support the missions to Urantia. The fact that there is hostility between the Western transmitters and the eastern Magisterial Foundation has no good reason to exist except they manufacture the problems where no problems exist.

For that particular reason, I fully agree with you and they will be warned, that is the Western transmitters, that they cannot continue to do a Light Line or a transmission without addressing the unity issue with the Magisterial Foundation. I am willing to bet Ron you can win them over. But instead of depending on you for hostile remarks, which you have ceased doing for months, you must remind them that the unity of human endeavor is required to work for the Magisterial Foundation, for the Magisterial Son, and the Second Return of Christ. You are correct, their ears should prick up at that remark. For so many have decided that we must either put it aside or never speak to it again.

But that's not true. What is true is for everyone here to realize that the One we call Jesus is quite sure that the entire matter of the Magisterial Foundation is a founding organization that can continue the hope of Epochal Revelation and of seeing Jesus again. We are quite sure Ron, that you are using a very careful vocabulary in order to transmit verbally, the Second Return is still valid. But we have stopped talking about it until the Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon is fully sure there is a safe place to return to Urantia. It is hardly the Middle East. It is hardly China or Japan. But it is still the United States where he can be safely annealed and prepared for.

I am now making it available, Ron, you have recentered for me. Thank you. Please understand that I Machiventa Melchizedek have no issue to bear here. And that I am quite sure that the speech preceding this is valid. Ron is writing a little pamphlet that they're going to publish in the next month or so and in it, he shows the use of WTP and shows a picture of a huge tower carrying wires of 10s of 1000s of volts sliding sideways until it at an almost 45-degree angle. And he labels the picture: this is what happens when you transmit too many heavy electrons and pointed out that if they had used muons that tower would not have tilted. Of course, that's blasphemy. Electrons are no heavier than muons and likewise in the reverse. The truth of the matter is that the entire discussion on WTP has reached the point where Ron must use sublime humor to get attention. That brochure will make it big time Ron. It's excellent. And Dominick get it ready for the duplication and ready for mailing. Ron has it done but hasn't said so. And has kept it quiet because he wasn't sure it should ever be done. It needs to be done, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I appreciate it. Thank you so much.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. Now this: we now have reached our quitting point. And I want you all to understand that I, Michael of Nebadon, Gabriel, the Melchizedeks, and the divine Sons still loyal to me; are going to make a concerted effort to make these Missions visible and available. Ron is in a sort of depression, he has a hard time waking up. And for that reason needs revitalized in that he will be a protractor of all these things with you and for you and together. I am Michael of Nebadon speaking. And for the final few moments, Ron, let us offer a prayer.

Ron Besser  
Dear Father, please forgive us. We no longer care that much for humanity. We care more for Urantia and that it become a sphere of true God-centered humans. We pray Father that we may entice you to belong to the honor guard that brings our beloved Jesus back to our vision. We thank You, Father. We thank You, Jesus. We thank You, Michael, for allowing us to attend you this way. And thank you, Father, for giving me the breath of life. Amen. That concludes everyone, the Light Line for Sunday, March 17, 2024. And I welcome you again next Sunday. And let us hope that we can have some Light Lines this week after some of the illnesses abate. Thank you for listening, and bye-bye everybody.

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Hello to all,

I waited until three in the afternoon to see if my health condition would be slightly better,

 unfortunately it is not and I now decide to cancel the Lightline for today.


So, no Netherlands Lightline Intl. for Monday, 18 March 2024

Elise
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Hi everyone, we hold our Lightline El Salvador in Spanish, thank you Universal Father, Michael of Nebadon, Arturah, Agar, the Pleyadians to listen the tape please click on the link
https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1534443/615480/VCISPREC02_615480_20240317_173223


Evelio Rivas 
Host 
René Durán 
Co host 
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Elise, thank you for posting Ron’s LL USA even with the Spanish Flu.
Prayers to you and your husband for a speedy recovery.

Steven
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Lightline USA, 17 March 2024

This is the link to the tape for Lightline Sunday, March 17, 2024

with your host Ron Besser


https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240317_110059
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General Discussion / Reminder, Lightline Live today at 2PM
« Last post by Ron Besser on Yesterday at 13:32:53 »
Just a quick reminder I am holding the Sunday Lightline today at 2PM.  Use the Internet log in printed at the top of the discussion forum if you like or use the telephone number we have always used before.  This is the first Lightline back into our regular schedule, so just note it.
I also just spoke to Elise of the Netherlands, and boy is she ill!  She contracted the Spanish flu and it is as bad or worse than Covid.   I suppose she will let you know if she can handle her Lightline tomorrow or not.  Same consideration must be given to Lemuel, who with me too, is in his80's and we are having a hard time keeping these schedules yet.  I leave all of it up to our transmitters, but do not be susrprised we have some gaps in our schedule this coming week too.
Lightline USA will be on theair in about half an hour for me and hope to see you there.  Thanks much
Ron Bessser/transmitter

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TRANSLATIONS / 17.3.2024 – Pamięć o swoim ja
« Last post by Andre_P on Yesterday at 11:45:09 »
Ta sama wiadomość po angielsku :
https://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=21137.msg102969#msg102969
Podał : Rene A Duran, członek bohater
Kategoria / Temat : LIGHTLINE PO HISZPAŃSKU DLA WSZYSTKICH / PAMIĘĆ O SWOIM JA
« 15 marca 2024 r., godz. 19:12:34 »

Grupa 11:21 - Przekazywanie prawd, Phoenix, Arizona

PAMIĘĆ O SWOIM JA

Od OJCA WSZECHŚWIATA
Przekazujący : Nataly
Salwador, 12 marca 2024 r., godz. 2:00


Ojciec Wszechświata :
"Tu wasz Ojciec Uniwersalny. Odpowiadam na twoje wezwaniu przesłaniem do ludzkości. Pamięć o swoim ja pozwala nam monitorować działania codziennego życia. Ludzkość zapomniała o zbliżaniu się i byciu posłuszną subtelnym wezwaniom swojej wewnętrznej istoty.

Zapraszamy was do dostrojenia się, do nawiązania kontaktu z waszym Ojcem Uniwersalnym, o którym zapomnieliście przez tak długi czas. Tych, którzy chcą rozpocząć pracę nad sobą zapraszamy do rozpoczęcia. Można znaleźć tę energię motywacji, która prowadzi do celu.

Jesteśmy tysiącami istot, które są uważne na najmniejsze wezwanie o pomoc lub kontakt, o który prosi którekolwiek z moich dzieci.

Moje dzieci, przez tysiąclecia czekaliśmy na was i możliwość jest otwarta dla każdego, kto chce rozpocząć swoją wewnętrzną pracę. Życzę powodzenia wszystkim moim dzieciom, które zdecydują się rozpocząć swoje wznoszenie. Po tej stronie zasłony cieszymy się z tych, którzy podejmują decyzję o powrocie do domu.

Tu Ojciec Wszechświata. Wycofuję się."

Koniec

Nataly
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TRANSLATIONS / 17.3.2024 - Nie chcemy was niepokoić
« Last post by Andre_P on Yesterday at 10:42:03 »
Ta sama wiadomość po angielsku :
https://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=21136.msg102968#msg102968
Podał : Rene A Duran, członek bohater
Kategoria / Temat : LIGHTLINE PO HISZPAŃSKU DLA WSZYSTKICH / NIE CHCEMY WAM ROBIĆ ALARMU
« 15 marca 2024 r., godz. 19:04:46 »

Grupa 11:21 - Przekazywanie prawd, Phoenix, Arizona

NIE CHCEMY WAM ROBIĆ ALARMU

Od OJCA WSZECHŚWIATA
Przekazujący : Nestor
Salwador, 13 marca 2024 r., godz. 22:33


Ojciec Wszechświata :
"W istocie tu wasz Uniwersalny Ojciec z przesłaniem do ludzkości. Jesteśmy w sytuacji kryzysowej na poziomie planetarnym i chcemy ostrzec ludzkość, żeby była czujna na katastrofy, które mogą się wydarzyć, ponieważ istnieją problemy z jądrem planety Urantii.

Nie chcemy was niepokoić, ale warto podjąć środki ostrożności. Przy kilku okazjach powiedziano wam, że ta planeta jest dość zniszczona i nie funkcjonuje dobrze. W każdej chwili może nastąpić katastrofa, a sugestia, podobnie jak przy innych okazjach, brzmi : Przygotujcie się z jedzeniem i wodą. W najgorszym przypadku rozważana byłaby ogólnoświatowa ewakuacja.

Z drugiej strony Niebiańska Rodzina jest gotowa na każdy przypadek. Istnieją brygady gotowe na sytuacje nadzwyczajne, ale w przypadku ewakuacji konieczne byłoby uratowanie tylko tych ludzi, którzy wciąż mają możliwość zmiany. Byłaby duża większość, której wydawałaby się : "To nie jest pierwsze ostrzeżenie, które zostało wydane, ani ostatnie". Tu wasz Uniwersalny Ojciec. Opuszczam to miejsce. Życzę wam szczęśliwej nocy."

Koniec

Nestor
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TRANSLATIONS / 17.3.2024 - Wezwanie
« Last post by Andre_P on Yesterday at 10:00:54 »
Ta sama wiadomość po angielsku :
https://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=21135.msg102967#msg102967
Podał : Rene A Duran, członek bohater
Kategoria / Temat : LIGHTLINE PO HISZPAŃSKU DLA WSZYSTKICH / WEZWANIE
« 15 marca 2024 r., godz. 18:58:55 »

Grupa 11:21 - Przekazywanie prawd, Phoenix, Arizona

WEZWANIE

Od JEZUSA Z NAZARETU
Odebrane przez Néstora
Salwador, 14 marca 2024 r., godz. 23:21


Jezus z Nazaretu :
"W istocie tu Jezus z Nazaretu z przesłaniem dla ludzkości Urantii, moich ukochanych dzieci. To bardzo bolesne dla mnie widzieć, że nie rozumiecie, że jesteście w poważnym niebezpieczeństwie. Ta planeta nie wytrzymuje już złego traktowania przez ludzi i zaczęła się buntować. Ta planeta wycierpiała zbyt wiele i nie chce już być dalej poniewierana. Jeśli nie zmienicie swojego nastawienia, to zginiecie, ponieważ ona już zaczęła się trząść, a trzęsienia ziemi i fale pływowe będą coraz silniejsze.

To sprawia, że jesteśmy bardzo smutni tutaj, po drugiej stronie zasłony, widząc tę ludzkość zbliżającą się do urwistych brzegów, gdzie zginą, jeśli nie nauczą się szanować życia we wszystkich jego przejawach, zaczynając od istot, które wydają się im najbardziej nieistotne. Jeśli nie będziecie w stanie kochać i szanować planety, na której żyjecie, będziecie musieli nauczyć się tej trudnej i strasznej lekcji.

My, Niebiańska Rodzina, nie będziemy mieli innego wyboru, jak tylko obserwować ostateczną katastrofę, w której większość tej ludzkości zginie.

Wzywam was, moje dzieci, żebyście zmienili swoje nastawienie, porzucili przemoc i kochali się nawzajem jak bracia, którymi jesteście. Porzućcie grzech i szukajcie u mnie schronienia. Czekam na was z otwartymi ramionami, moje ukochane dzieci. Tu Jezus z Nazaretu. Wycofuję się. Niech mój pokój będzie z wami. Odpoczywajcie dobrze."

Koniec

Nestor
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Thank you for your views, Occerpa.  I happen to agree with you in asserting that free electricity will change the world if all people have access to it, and that has to be eventually due to expense mostly.


The United States has huge resources at its finger tips but the States also have a drug problem and an historical issue called State's rights, supposedly settled by the American Civil War 1861 - 1865.  The Confederacy (the South and who the Washington government had to fight bloody battles over this) never learned properly that it had less rights than it assumed it held, and as a result they are today great Trump fans and will bite the dust bitterly again when the Federal Government seizes a State capital too and holds them liable for rebellion.  I for one have no dog in that fight, but I tire of men trying to lord it over women over reproductive rights and God the Father has ruthlessly let it known that abortion is not the fight or the question, but the rights of a human being to use his, her body as his (or her) to determine for themselves.  Short of a solider using his or her  body attempting sedition against the spiritual rule, women have to claim the high ground and stop picking fights with lawyers and learn what Christ decreed in his Bestowal:  "Thou shalt not proceed with the habiliments of truth until their is respect for the truth and the truth  seeker and its ways with body and soul.  I do not think people really understand what Christ meant for we now have legal fights on what women perceive as their rights to protect their body integrity.


In writing my book ORIGINS,  I did as a side inquiry ask just what was the authority of any person to determine what right the fetus may have.  I was replied to by the FATHER himself, and he said affirmatively, :the life of the mother has priority.  That is all he said, for to speak to individual searches for the right way to conduct morality, is that moral actions must take place within the individual and not be assigned to an individual from spiritual adjudication out side of the limits of the spiritual indwelling in every mind.


To me that assigns moral turpitude to the individual who must make those moral decisions, and that the law protects such individuals so long as their is no immorality.  I doubt the causes for abortion are not excluded from immoral acts, but at the same time the question is not the morality, but the rights of the fetus.  I doubt  the truth of the fetus rights will be listened to but I do not think it has any rights until the fetus is a person on the planet imploring the use  of the mores.  But now let me get t o thw WTP issue you raise Occerpa.


WTP is a tough nut to crack and I have learned it unhappily.  There are too many chiefs in the kitchen over the issue, and we have to wait until there is a sea change over what constitutes  true science.  I see no county inquiring about the patent, nor do I see much conversation on this board about the need for free electricity, except for people like you who hold it as important as I do.  However, MACHIVENTA MELCHIZEDEK insists I lay low, and speak no more than I have to.  Machiventa also interdicts what I have said so far on the forum as I posted a lot of gravity only to learn foreign readers have no respect for a dissemination which thinks Leptons have no role to play in any high degree of discoveries, and mock my choice of words that Leptons have a place to play in any important changes to preparticle theory.  That will cost them shortly, but I could care less over views that are so limited I doubt they help the science of the near future that we know ultimatons are now flashing a warning to preparticle issues today.  I do not know, Occerpa, what the warnings are about in matter, but the planet's integrity is surely involved deeply and that integrity could relocate our species on a more friendly planet if the earth core does not settle down by mixing our magnetosphere in with atomic preparticles which are so explosive we will pay a big price if  they get more known and used by natural forces which have to use them as ingredients to  refresh this planet and what resources are left.


Well, you might say, we always have fish.  Something to eat is still available then, but I am also talking about metals and land and earth;s atmosphere.  The ultimatons are flashing yellow rods very much, and the normal ultimaton has blue rods and they began flashing yellow just recently.  Further it is only in the last eight years man is dissolving his patience with democratic government.  They are not supposed to be related, and in normal times  they are not related, but the powers to be in spirit have little respect for an earth population that has more to say about sewage than about God, and that the Vatican in Rome sits so empty again.  Traditions are unimportant when social changes obviate  the need to speak of God and then mostly use the confomity of ceremony to cover over default in precious reviews of the prayerful life.


WTP is the poor man's dream but the oil mans disfavor and doubt it is possible to ease his conscience.  I am not happy to learn that no one understands preparticles as they should, and I am not going to make a charity out of myself to give it away to see if someone cares to try it without my expense to engineer it and run it.  I am open fully to discuss WTP's issues and its proposed compliance with introducing it to the movers and shakers of mankind, but a lot more has to happen before man understands what can be done with preparticles he has yet to discover.  We here have to discovered one invention that should be used at once, but go whistle in the dark until someone finds the light switch to look at free electricity and to  find it is imminently available and doable.  


Thanks for your post Occerpa.
Ron Besser
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