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First let me extend my thanks to Margul, Senadad, Michael, and of course Ron exceptional and extraordinary work ln even receiving this level of revelation and information.  It is of course a challenge for the human mind to , by faith, belief, reason, intellect and logic receive this information and find a place to put it and take it in in the increments that we read and do our best  to understand it as it is so patiently given to us  that as it is delivered to us in these incremental ways and doses is so wise, and I will leave it at that.  
  Sometimes it sees that our human minds (at least mine) is as thick as bricks and seem at times to be just as impenetrable  and yet Spirit continues slowly but surely piercing through and away at those layers to let the light of revelation, inspiration knowledge and real spirit insight to bring us ever along in our growth as humans becoming eventual Spirit Beings.
As these incremental lessons have continued  the information  about the differnces between Jesus and  the Christ does get clearer .   Perhaps we may even get to that point of being able to teach it to others.   Wouldn't that be a marvel? 

I find the sentence: "
“In that reply he made a saleable point: If you do not carefully listen to spirit announcements you can miss the real import of what that announcement is about.  He suggests that spirit is changing your minds and that you, in some cases all who are members here, are being revised in PERSPECTIVE and that means a change of mind you cannot follow or understand at all because it lies in such a deep part of the mind you are unable to touch it"
to be quite revealing.
 I hope that Michael and Ron will choose to grant us a peek  and an "attempt at understanding" of the information regarding Urantia 1, Urantia 11, and Urantia 111  When I read just the short sentence about it,  I immediately wanted  that opportunity. 

I look forward to the next installment concerning the Messiah that will be shared with us as our world will most likely utilize all he knows, even as incorrect and  incomplete as it is, to try and come to grips and to  find some way to understand with all that will soon be happening for everyone on Urantia.  

Again my deepest gratitude for this information and revelation. LarryG.....  a few more rereads of this will be necessary to take it all in...and I request more.     
Christ Is In Charge This Time & Jesus Abides the Change - The Trinity 20Jan2018

The Paradise Trinity
From Margul: The Trinity Teacher Son
From Michael of Nebadon as Super-Deity
Also from Senadad, Gravity Messenger
York, PA 14:00 local time
January 20, 2018 19:00 Zulu

“I am Margul, and I greet all of you this day called Saturday on large parts of Urantia momentarily.  We are prepared to speak shortly but let us see what actually happens as we go about the business of being sure you know the difference between Jesus and Christ.  Here we go:

“Jesus, indeed, is a Son of God, as well as the son of man, and properly spoken even today.  Our work must first allow all of you to adjust your seat belts to understand that the Finaliter status that Jesus holds is extraordinarily hard to handle as he was so fast moved to that status he had to fight tooth and nail to keep his earth groundings in place.  What do we mean by “grounding?”

“Grounding is a term Ron uses to mean he feels peacefully in place on the soil of the earth and he knows his circumstances moment to moment.  He is not dizzy or dreamy but wide awake and knows the circumstances he is in the chair or walking in a store.  He is connected well to the environment and can carry a conversation on with full understanding to what he is saying.  To have no grounding is unpleasant and one feels tensions inside the stomach and head and it is so unpleasant you rather lie down and sleep some of that unwelcome tension away.

“Jesus felt ungrounded on Paradise.  He was rushed through the environmental situation so swiftly he could hardly catch his breath before he moved to the next stage of his Paradise perfection ascensions.   But he fully understood what he learned and how to to do it,, but he could fined comfort even in rest periods as he was truly without a memory of earth and his life as a youth in the hazy and warm sunshine of spring and fall anymore.  He just lost some of that for sure.  That was when the Father asked Jesus if he would like to go back for a spell to those days he did not have THAT much to do as anyone but himself.  Ron remembers with great heart his second grade end of school day for the summer vacation, and going to the meadow to see a beautiful cherry tree in full blossom with not a soul around but for him to see it in all of its glory and how good he felt at that moment in body and young soul.  This is true grounding and as such is without parallel in the human body and mind and spirit.  Ron was fully indwelt then and that Adjuster saw the reaction of mind and body and stored that memory for Ron to enjoy once in a while too.  The Adjuster in Jesus did the same for him but the memories got lost as the lives of a Bestowal Son are without parallel anywhere and memories get shuffled in and out and sometimes lost to view.  Ron speculates the horror to the mind of the crucifixion surely caused memory loss to say the least.


Senadad: “I am an Adjuster become a Gravity Messenger, and on that day at the baptism of Jesus in the Jordan, and about Jesus, I report nothing could be done to lose more memory than He did when he was killed on the cross to bear us all yet.   I sought the Father in earnest Adjuster prayer to prevent what was to happen to Jesus, as I saw clearly where this bestowal was to lead.  I am not a personalized Adjuster but a Gravity Messenger, and we are so powerful I must leave this alone as Ron is moved to tears whenever we speak of this horror called a crucifixion.  But I report to you that Jesus lost about one third of memory he had of childhood and the Father recommended he return to earth in body form and live life there for whatever it took to re-ground the Bestowal Son to his life as a child.  He lived his life once more as an average citizen in Judea in the 1935 expansion of the fifth (5th ) epochal revelation and was happy as a lark to bring it to an end before the Nazi’s started pilfering the Holy Land for artifacts in their poorly shaped minds to recreate Nirvana in Germany.”

“This is what I mean for Ron is truly a magnificent clover leaf to bring in someone I thought would never speak as a Gravity Messenger of the status of Senadad, is so powerful they rarely get through to a mere mortal on Urantia even when they transmit well enough to avenge the frequency of such a being.  Gravity Messengers are in your Urantia Book, but very little understood.  Ron remembers they are not assigned to all Finaliter Corps but on Urantia you ahve several Corps of Finaliter status that have several Gravity Messengers in them.  Ron asked their purpose and recalled they were used by Finaliters to get critical information from Paradise in an emergency, but they also make sure that the Finaliter Corps assigned to Urantia are ready to take drastic measures to save as many good people as possible from the treasons of politics and war on Urantia in particular. 

“I also see the possibility that some of you will work with Gravity Messengers in the outer space regions, as there are few of you who are qualified and so many of you of fusion status soon-to-be are also qualified.  A Gravity Messenger needs sentient beings and they work hard to keep them that way and the upset Ron has had in the past twenty-four hours is most troubling to that force that keeps all things as they should be together.  In any case they are near us as we report this information to you.  Now back to Jesus and The Christ:

“I wish to explain that Michael explained much to Ron several days ago and most of it got lost in a long winded transmission Ron never posted mostly due to length.  However we reference that post and recopy some of it here to save me breath:

Entry Message from  18 January Not Posted from an extract of earlier discussion about The Christ

“Why does Michael use the term the return of Christ?  Why did he not use the term the return of Jesus?  He also asked all of you to write a response to that question.   [and many of you did and we add this information to your own explanations as follows - Ron 01/20/18]

“In that reply he made a saleable point: If you do not carefully listen to spirit announcements you can miss the real import of what that announcement is about.  He suggests that spirit is changing your minds and that you, in some cases all who are members here, are being revised in PERSPECTIVE and that means a change of mind you cannot follow or understand at all because it lies in such a deep part of the mind you are unable to touch it.

“You may not know what is happening in your own sensing of this Return,  but you are signaled to by the change in vocabulary Michael uses to announce what is to happen, and hopefully ground you in your mind changes.   Information has been withheld for sometime that deals with the idea of three shades of the planet Urantia which is called: Urantia I, Urantia II, and Urantia III, and Michael explains how these three planets are to illustrated in the coming Christ redemption plan of Michael of Nebadon.  Ron was given this information months ago and let it sit because of the problems otherwise many members were then expressing.  In that private review of this concept, Ron was told the Christ word was used and that Besser automatically assumed some minds were being taken into possibly Urantia III as Urantia II has been destroyed (as informed by Michael earlier) and Urantia I is as currently used by the current population on Urantia.  You did not release that post because you felt it would confuse almost everyone and did not have the full understanding how these three planets would explain very much at all.  I concur with your willingness to stand back when you feel no one knows what you are talking about.

“Ron reports correctly that whatever title you use, either Christ or Jesus, it refers to the person of the Bestowal Son.  But he also makes a point to all of you listening that the Bestowal Son is both Christ and Jesus and Michael and the Father now.  But who are we talking about when we see Jesus announcing his presence again in some media message to be given soon?  The answer is you see CHRIST.  Jesus is no longer present regardless of what you think you see/

“The son of man is the Bestowal Son only; the Son of God with Michael is also the son of man, and as such one is divine and the other is a human representative of how God and man are one with full attunement available.  However, Jesus has become the CHRIST and you are not to assume that means just Jesus anymore.

“CHRIST is a Universal. As such a Universal, the Christ  represents all men through out all of Nebadon and probably all of Orvonton! 

“Ron called Christ the Universal and is exactly correct.  He found with some help, that such a Universal was a particular representation all mankind on all planets in all superuniverses, to the Universal Father.  Father hails the CHRIST as the spokesman for the idea of what a human really is, even if a human goes by so quickly in material life, it is the most important thing that is done in the realms of time and space and is the real arbiter of what happens to man finally before the Father in serve to the Trinity.  Jesus is the Urantia finite example of an excellent Bestowal Son, but the promotion of Jesus to Christ is the everlasting desire to be Supreme before all the Deities on Paradise and will lead God the Supreme to his destiny to rule the minds of all men in the coming age of finality as a Supreme Finaliter or as a Supreme-Ultimate Finaliter in the coming revision of the space age to come of the Supreme-Ultimate universe of the first two outer space levels.

“Now how did the CHRIST suddenly appear on the scene as no revelation to date ever dared to speculate this development?

“The answer lies with Christ Michael.

“Most of you do not remember or realize that Ron made an announcement about four months ago tell you the Michael was now super Deity.  That refers to the fact that the Father considers Michael of Nebadon a super hero in a horrible drama between rebellion and murder and suicide and all those terrible negatives that came with the Lucifer Rebellion.  In that mess, the Father foresaw why Michael reacted the way he did and gave Michael a special pass to leave the world Urantia alone until the Ancients of Days, decided what to do about evidence gathering on Urantia.  They decided to forbid Michael or Gabriel or Mother Spirit to go to Urantia and bar Lucifer and Caligastia from breaching the protocols of human ascension.  Urantia lost ten million human sould and about forty million angles and associated Sanobim and Cherubim.  In any case the toll was even higher among Material Sons and Daughters who were reported to be almost decimated by the intrusion of Lucifer into their nurseries to render their children unfit to serve as Material Sons and Daughters as biological uplifters of race on the planets they were assigned to in Nebadon.

“In Ron’s post he mentioned that Michael was taken to Paradise and remodeled into a super Deity much as the Father can be beheld, and in so doing set a new precedence for looking idiotic to the Father when He, Michael, did not know what the Father was talking about.  Michael had never been instructed that such a thing was possible and had no idea what the Father had in mind.  The Father instructed Michael of Nebadon, that his patience was so rewarding and the help of the Ancients of Days was so forth coming, that the Ancients of Days of Orvonton, are also assigned a special place among the Deity friezures on high for Absolute correct measures taken on Urantia to prevent further spread of the rebellion beyond Urantia.  For Urantia was the 35th planet of 37 planets that sprang to the aide of Caligastia and Lucifer at the last minute.  Gabriel nearly saved Urantia from its fate but the Circuit Supervisor seized control of the communication network to Urantia while posted on Urantia, and the message sent  to Michael, was: ‘Abandon all hope and send reinforcements to Urantia to save it from rebellion.’

“I am Margul, and let me explain we never saw Deitization happen like this before.  Immanuel from Salvington came to Paradise; I as Margul was there too, and we had Michael of Nebadon, Gabriel and some officials not revealed to humans on Urantia to be there to attest to this unusual Deitization of a Finaliter.  In certain cases it could happen to anyone including one of you but be doubtful of it since none of the work of God requires this highly specialized representation of the Father to men of all races and births throughout the all of the Superuniverses.  But this is an example of the time that Michael and Jesus fought together, as one,  to stem a horrible rebellion that nearly wiped clean thirty-seven plants of all humanity.  Both Lucifer and Caligastia were determined to destroy Urantia and a the others because of their close association with the Bestowal Son Jesus.  The fate of Jesus is known everywhere to everybody.  I takes an obvious division of thought for people who read this narrative to fully understand what did happen and how terrible the consequences were for everyone who even touched Jesus as a friend or even a foe, for the Sanhedrin was cleared of the Chief Priest immediately as he fell ill within a year and collapsed and died thanks to Caligastia finishing the witnesses to death to the Bestowal Son’s life however well or bad they did that.  The Sanhedrin priesthood was decimated within five years after the death of Jesus, and by the time the last vestige of the memory of the life of Jesus were known, none were left to attest to His life.

“The Sanhedrin, in principle was a bastion of forget me nots who lived life lavishly but did little harm other than to run the powerful Sanhedrin Temple which Jesus loved so much.  None except Josiah would ascend, and the others named did not get out of Purgatory, as that was a special assignment Lucifer gave to those the distrusted above all and he kept them in the astronomy grid that bounds Urantia even today with morontial energies to keep souls alive before they are transported to the mansion worlds on high.  In looking at the death toll caused by Caligastia, alone, we speculate he killed well over one hundred million souls when he ruled on Urantia in those years, and he got meaner and meaner as time went on as he knew his life was forfeit soon enough.

“Michael of Nebadon now holds the Deity slot we can only call super-deity, as he now is capable of spelling solutions to problems on all human worlds through out time and space.  Jesus therefore is the Bestowal Son who is universalized by the promotion of bothe Himself to Deity and to Michael as super-Deity and together they reign as Father and Son, and probably in the heart of Ocilliaya, as the unity of Deity prerogatives of the existential Father-Son union on Paradise.”


“You who read this passage must understand that our transmitter finds unusually high grades when he tears a section written for review which he trying not to do for length alone, but he also remarks that Urantia is always in great danger to destroy monotheism and revert back to the practices of Abraham’s day, and that Abraham executed those who insisted on giving Baal his due in the context of his army and rule.

“In particular Ron feels that the idea of the MESSIAH will raise its head and in that we must report to all of you that must NEVER come to be as the idea of the Messiah was soundly trounced in the Old Testament when Malachi reported that if there were a Messiah, such a god would be weak compared to the Father high above.

  “You who read these pages, especially some the Guests here, are prone to getting the idea if a Messiah mixed in our reports of Jesus and Deity and so on.  The Messiah is an ideal of Jewish theology, but it is never fully understood that the ideal is shot through with the practices of Baal and must never be mixed in with The Christ or other manifestations of the coming divine Missions on Urantia. 

“I have asked Ron to sit for another couple of hours in the near future to take a dictation on the muses concerning the Messiah and how it must not become a reference to what happens on Urantia soon enough.  The trial on Ron is not harsh but on the rest of you, long passages such as this one are tiring and to people, but just please stop reading for long stretches as I suggest you copy and past the messages that get too long for you and read them as separate posts at your leisure.   Good day for all.  I am Michael of Nebadon and I do not take up my new posts for decades of earth time.”

I rarely post in many insistence what I have to say has already been posted so I with hold my contributions.
Your post is a good example. The one exception is I make a point to understand, then the question is correctness.
I need to point out that I have been studying the Urantia Book sense the 90s and I am 40 years your senior.
The point is to keep on keeping on.
In Brotherhood.
Thank you mother nebadonia and daniel for this post it was helpful instruction on how to better integrate with my thought adjuster.  I try and approach this material with little to no expectations and apply the teachings to see what happens.  While it seems day to day nothing much of consequence really happens, when I look back on my life and how it has progressed I get a better perspective on how this really works.  I am in a better place than I was ten years ago, five years ago and even six months ago.  I don’t know if I’ll ever get to the point of T/R’ing but, for the moment at least, I’m happy to get spiritual guidance.  Much of the time I don’t really understand what is being said but that’s o.k. too, I usually have faith I am getting what I need and being pointed in the right direction.  With that said, I definitely have my moments of frustration and doubt.  But right now im feeling pretty good about things.  Thank you for that.
@Daniel Alderfer, Ron Hammar, 7inOcean, andi, Allie and all the others having read what I have to express in my last two "Post",...

I'm sorry I bothered you with my mental state yesterday,..., I did not feel very well yesterday and to tell you frankly, ..., I still have a lot of pressure in front of my forehead, I feel very weak so much that I have to lie down on my bed while it's over and this without mentioning my frequent dizziness,..., and the acute and continual noise in my head......

Know my dear friends that this makes me lose patience and frankly, it becomes terribly unbearable!!!!!

Thank you very much for your comforting answers and I love you very much my friends!!!!!

Be sure that in the future I will avoid "Posting" this kind of "Post"

I am much better today!!!!!!
AUDIO TAPE Transmissions Here / Re: Audio Transmission/ Snowdrops
« Last post by newstarsaphire on Today at 12:51:31 PM »

In appreciation of your post Lemuel, and Lemuel’s Thought Adjuster, it is easy to see the relationship between the physical appearance of this special flowering plant and our personal struggles to not give up during these cold dark days where death and destruction seem to abound and truth, beauty and goodness is under constant assault.  I have to believe that the faith, persistence and personal dedication it takes to simply persevere towards that breakthrough from the negative circumstances into the full light of day, will also soon be replaced with the joy of the breakthrough experience itself and the opportunity to flourish and bear the beautiful fruit it will also produce in our lives.  Domtia to you both!
AUDIO TAPE Transmissions Here / Re: Audio Transmission/ Snowdrops
« Last post by Lemuel on Today at 11:21:24 AM »
How lovely!
Thank you Clency.
TRANSLATIONS / Re: Wiadomoci po polsku (Posts in Polish)
« Last post by Andre_P on Today at 10:47:55 AM »
Ta sama wiadomość po francusku :
Napisał : Clency, członek-bohater
Kategoria / Temat : TŁUMACZENIA / Tłumaczenia na język francuski
« Odpowiedź nr 37, 17 stycznia 2018, godz. 23:30:10 »

Do wszystkich czytelników francuskojęzycznych na początku 2018 roku, oto podsumowanie kilku dobrych wieści, cieszących i zachęcających, które wnoszą nam radość do serca po długim okresie mroku.

1) Oficjalne uruchomieie Misji Magisterskiej, na czele z Serarą i Mondżoronsonem jest zapowiedziane na 10 marca 2018 r.

(2) Główna siedziba Misji będzie ustanowiona w York, w Pennesylvanii, w Stanach Zjednoczonych, w budynku pochodzącym z lat 1930, z biurami odpowiednio przygotowanymi do użytku.

3) Nasz Mistrz Jezus, który na początku się wcielił i ze względu na rację stanu, spędził jakiś czas w Izraelu, jest obecnie na Edentii, ale co najlepsze, zapowiadany jest jego powrót w ciele na Urantię pod koniec lutego.

Podsumowując, wszyscy modlimy się, aby wszelkie obietnice tych wiadomości się spełniły.
AUDIO TAPE Transmissions Here / Re: Audio Transmission/ Snowdrops
« Last post by Clency on Today at 10:45:34 AM »

For those, like me, who have never sighted a snowdrop flower carpet in winter, I join a google  picture to Lemuel's post above. Very delighting and beautiful indeed for the eyes. Domtia
General Discussion / Re: ~ Unintended Encounters with Malice ~
« Last post by andi on Today at 10:40:48 AM »
Hello back to you Evan.  How have you been?  

I like what you wrote because it places a unique perspective on the matter of malice and human intentions.  You wrote, "unlearn the ways of an error filled world" thus Correcting time.  I hope niant2 reads this.

Malice is defined by numerous sources as "Intention or desire to do evil, ill will", etc.  With synonyms of "spite, malevolence, ill will, vindictiveness, vengefulness, revenge, malignity, evil intentions, animus, enmity, rancor, etc".  It's broad, thus allowing it to creep up on people in subtle ways.  Intriguing how clearly polar opposite Father's love and light is in comparison.  

I have few questions for you Evan since you also wrote, "And we can only do that in our personal lives first".  

- How is it that so many humans are easily influenced by malice on this planet?

- How can a human recognize and handle malice?  

- Does recognizing malice and trying to rectify it contribute towards our Creator Parents overall goal of lifting this planet and their universe into Light and Life?

- Does an individual manifesting "Fruits of Spirit" contribute towards our Father's will and Creator Parents universe missions?  How or how not?

Please, anyone jump in :)
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