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Title: New Standards
Post by: Archeroptia on June 06, 2018, 06:15:24 PM
New York 06/06/2018

6:00 PM

New standards for the site and exclusion of Ronald Besser on any leadership.

I AM Archeroptia. And on top we came to the conclusion that the mammal named Ronald Besser is insufficient to advise the less fortunate. He will still own his own things and actions. The agenda defines for the site that everyone can post all the wisdom that will add to the expansion of knowledge in the different areas.
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: 7inOcean on June 06, 2018, 07:09:00 PM
Alert - to Admin - this post has also been sent to me as a personal message and it is concerning enough to make this known that this new member appears to be cause for concern as it preaches discontent in my view - Ron I thought to alert you and the List.
Many regards,
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: LarryG on June 06, 2018, 07:18:59 PM
Ron and Sue.     I did as well
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: vargasnunezj (TA Veyoptia) on June 06, 2018, 08:03:51 PM
I also received the message as an email. I just deleted it.

José L. Vargas Núñez
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: Ron Besser on June 06, 2018, 08:12:02 PM
Archeroptia is permanently banned and I thank you all for your feedback by reporting it.  This is typical modus operandi of the cult mentality that originates in central Africa with Assale one of its ring leaders.
Assale is apparently seeking cult status and then lead a coup in Nairobi according to Michael of Nebadon who speaks as follows:

Michael - "This group is not lead by Assale but he is a ring leader in Ivory Coast and seeks political referendum to obtain political power at the highest level of the African resort town of Nairobi in Kenya.  This is not confidential yet it is sensitive and we must pretend it does not bother the spirit world but it does as Assale had aligned with Ron until Ron selected Assale out of membership for immoral behavior that cast a bad light on our work everywhere.  I am sure he must be fuirous again because there are good reasons Ron can catch these people as they behave the same way everytime they are allowed to post on this site.  All members are to be congratulated for reporting this at it made quick work to rid ourselves of yet another Assale pest.  Good day, Michael."
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: Rene A Duran on June 06, 2018, 11:37:53 PM
I receive an email from Archeroptia, I replied, he was going downhill ....
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: gitz on June 06, 2018, 11:51:03 PM
Received the email and deleted as well
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: Rene A Duran on June 07, 2018, 12:00:12 AM
A few days ago I also received an email from Andy Vines with a Long list of negative statements, I asked him to take me of his list, because of his  ill intentions.
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: overmind on June 07, 2018, 12:25:42 AM
I don't know who it is, but it's clear they've been here before since he or she sent a group message to some of the more active members, including myself. I just found it silly and ignored it. This type of action doesn't accomplish anything.
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: Lemuel on June 07, 2018, 12:59:46 AM
I also received the message but immediately deleted it without reading.
I felt from his first posting that perhaps we had another one of "them", meaning know all´s  who
actually know nothing.
I feel sorry for them. They are deluded.
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: SophiaVeronica on June 07, 2018, 03:13:40 AM
I did receive that email as well and deleted it.
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: Clency on June 07, 2018, 05:41:55 AM
The way this guy expressed his ideas which were too ambiguous for my standard of knowledge in geo-politics, I knew at first glance that he had something "bizarre" behind his mind. I also received his private mail, I just discarded it. Domtia
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: 7inOcean on June 07, 2018, 08:08:42 AM
Thank you Ron and Father Michael for the prompt action in this and it occurs to me all our actions together in this is in keeping with the integrity of our discernment. It goes without saying, how marvellous and supportive we can be in uniting and being co-operative. It saddens me though to see how some persons can be so mixed up in thoughts that I agree with Overmind when he says that " ..this type of action doesn't accomplish anything" especially of those types who visit here who wish to cause chaos and mayhem. 

To be fair, it is wonderful to see some good thinking and intelligent points of views be shared that is sensible to digest and nothing beats the beauty of so much of the writings we read in the Urantia Book. I look forward to the brilliant work Mantutia Melchizedek has compiled and as I shall watch carefully to recognised it to be produced from the Second Revelatory Commission. Now that is a massive book and worth waiting for in my view. If TUB was any guide, I am sure what is revealed in the numerous Papers of "Nystoria: The Book of Revelation" is surely to be just as beautiful and acceptable reading for most on this planet, given the language style that may be modified for our particular times. Although, I do prefer the magnificence of TUB's language and style, this is why it makes the TUB so impressionable and so challenging to our minds.

Anyway, enough said, and am happy to see prompt action taken. I don't usually respond in my work break, but I was prompted to alert immediately on the spot and not let this get out of hand as it could potentially do a lot of harm. Thank you all.

Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: felibon on June 07, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Deleted too. We are all here thanks to Ron’s abilities and wise site administration..
I feel that Ron is not a megalomaniac person and he is doing his work alone and with great efford..
God bless you Ron,  this site is one of the most amazing places in our world.
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: gitz on June 07, 2018, 09:51:00 AM
Rene, I also received a private email ten days ago not from Andy V but from DA who sent a negative list of accusations as well. I fully intended to mention it not because it was saddening  to receive and it couldn't accomplish anything of real value, so I ignored it, as Overmind wisely suggested.  But for reason this news may have some value to our members I regrettably mention it now.      Steve
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: Ron Besser on June 07, 2018, 11:14:43 AM
Good grief Charlie Brown!  Thank you all for reporting in as I had no idea the skunks were at it again so bad.

Let me ask you this as I do not know the answer:  What do you think is behind this deluge of dislike and a campaign to undo what is established here?  The short term reward to the skunks seems to harm me and my reputation, but then what?  Seems to me that if they somehow got me out of the way (whatever that is), they do not have a site that suddenly is theirs to do with what they please, as all of you are fully dedicated to the high ideals of Michael, and the high ideals of Mother Spirit, and the high ideals of your Father in Heaven.  They do not speak well of anything I can figure out yet persist to undermine your own dedication by hitching your thoughts to a site I organized to do that.   There is more than just human psychological creepiness going on, but there is something to do with the Moslem view that all men exist without God in the lands of the heathens, which is especially the United States and much ado about the west's dedication to Jesus.  But there is more, and it has nothing to do with the Moslems either, but the individual mind of a man who is dedicated to power to change the idea of a better world into his oyster-- namely Assale and his influence to date.

I also note that in general and here in the West especially, that anything to do with religious discussions attracts neurotics at times when what we speak or say about the subject is hard to follow.  For them the Urantia Book is impossible to follow, yet we have a group here that knows perfectly well that the Mantutia supplied writings so well and beautifully done, are the poetry to our souls to enlighten not just yourself but all of mankind if they could only concentrate a little more they would have it too. 

Comments are most welcome to analyze the motivations behind these things we can only call attacks with considerable effort to cath you in a web of deceit and over really nothing except my poor leadership they say.  I am so happy to hear many, if not all of you,  report these things to the list to give them an airing and the sunshine of transparency when evil is about.  Thank you all for letting the rest of you know this has been going on.   RON

"We now have a clear indication of why Ron hates Assale for his nefarious work in Africa.  He is fomenting revolution and depended on Ron to guide him toward learning how to control a large number of people from breaking with his role as revolutionary.  I am the Creator Son, and Ron has correctly analyzed parts of this puzzle and fails to see the real problem because he is blind to this kind of chicanery due to a heart that genuinely loves people for who they are and not what money or goods they bring to the Temple of love he carries for all of you.  His life is full of difficulties extremely harsh lately and he can hardly move to walk these last few days of transition to the morontial phase of life on Urantia.  Shortly he will enter into the womb of God for a few days and then deceive all you by saying he feels perfectly normal now.  But not so.

"Assale is convinced Ron is divine and wants his protection.  But Ron caught on about eight months ago that Assale was immoral and breaking the rules of being a fair transeman by teaching the Urantia Book so that he starred in it as the Savior of humanity in Africa.  Dove is one of his but relents so well with Ron's comments she has refused to do more and the DA Ron does not know Steve Gitz, so if you wish, inform him about who that may be as I do not know him or her either.  Now this:

"I have ruled that Assale must continue on his scheme for revolution in Africa.  I see there is good reason for him to think he can gain the power his grandfather had as a ruler of Kenya decades ago, but that he is now lost to that group of supporters over moral issues we do not discuss here.  He is truly a migration of hate from the days of the large tribes that fought on principle and not for reason.  Ron cannot fathom this side of man and does not ever wish to be part of that side of man period.   He is listening to his own government espouse dangerous ideas too and wants that to stop immediately!  In any case this list is preeminently up for sale NOT and that is yours to be proud of everyone who reported this abuse of your time and energy for positive developments in spite of setback after setback with us and our choice to improve poor Urantia/Nystoria.

"I leave one word to all of you:  SOON!  I am truly pressing every button I can to undo the problems Ron faces to just stay alive along enough to finish this transition, and then to provide him and many of you the pleasure of working with us as much as possible.  You all have age problems related to all the defaults Nystoria has suffered over her long history of being almost an innocent bystander to Missions that went awry.

"We must realign you and your hearts and souls to the idea we mean well if not totally sure what we mean sometimes.  I am truly sorry for all the mayhem you people have to suffer just to support our choices to regain Nystoria as Urantia it used to be called until a few cant weeks ago.  The name Nystoria is winning favor everywhere now and we wait for the final distribution of opinion from Paradise in particular on this matter ourselves.  In so many words we must regain the high ground and wait for no man to plunder what is God's to give.  I thank you all for responding so well to this threat of annihilation by people who hate before they think.  I am Michael and good day."

Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: gitz on June 07, 2018, 11:39:17 AM
Ron:  Michael requested I reveal to you the name of the author of the negative email sent to me..  Daniel A.

 How could I forget!  But I did and I kick myself for not recognizing it at all.  Another case of a disguised mental illness undiagnosed.  Thank you Steve.  Ron
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: gitz on June 07, 2018, 12:01:31 PM
"Another case of a disguised mental illness undiagnosed."  That's hilarious!  I am going to use that phrase when pointing to my goofs.  Still laughing.
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: Ron Besser on June 07, 2018, 12:55:29 PM
I do not feel loved.  I got this from Popular Science this morning!
Unlovely Ron

Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: newstarsaphire on June 07, 2018, 01:13:52 PM
Ron and forum friends,

I received the email and chose to use the "Report to Admin" option because I wanted to test it out and ask you Ron if it worked as I assume it is supposed to be used to report posts and personal messages to Admin (in this case Ron) to alert them of possible website abuse?

I particularly like Father Michaels comment I quote below about "people who hate before they think".  All too common and true it seems to me these days and a warning to us all to be vigilantly conscious of our thought processes and as Lemuel advised to be aware of "the observers" within us.

I thank you all for responding so well to this threat of annihilation by people who hate before they think.

Love to all my forum family

Hi Newstarsaphire - the mechanism to report site or post abuse worked well and I received your report via that mechanism.  I sincerely thank you.  But I also like to say that when you all posted to the thread running here it made it a group recognized need to rally the wagons round to protect the integrity of what we say and do here too.  I cannot overemphasize that there needs to be a group dynamic to supply me with the idea you care very much too.   You all have done that well and it makes me feel some pride we can stick together on really touch challenges to our faith and beliefs,  Thank you!   Ron
Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: Rene A Duran on June 07, 2018, 08:51:10 PM
Yes Steve, it is very sad how deep a rebel can fall into the abyss, it's obvious that whoever hates his brother hates The Son of God; He is love.
I have seen in the forum those who oppose to directions and love given by Michael of Nebadon through Ron and still presumed of being wise and full love and turn their backs to them.
Very sad.
I hope one day they realize what they have done.

Title: Re: New Standards
Post by: amethyst on June 07, 2018, 09:22:36 PM
I did receive an email about 3 weeks ago that was signed DA but was not from his email address. I just dismissed it and deleted it.  At the time something had already been mentioned here that he was causing problems, so I just assumed it was already known about.  If I get anything else I will report it to Ron asap.  It did not come from here, but was in my email.  My antenna is now up and  I'll be more alert and not just dismiss it.