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How to Understand Evil
« on: March 27, 2016, 08:31:39 PM »
This is a short project that I have wanted to complete for a few weeks now. I wanted to take a serious and comprehensive look at what evil truly is, and why it exists. While this does relate to the Lucifer Rebellion, it has no relation to the actions of any individuals in question. It is more about understanding the fundamental truths of the topic, and rebellion against God naturally gets itself involved with the material. About a third or fourth of what is written here comes directly from the Urantia Book, mostly Paper 132. I originally wanted to quote everything, but it started to become messy the more I added. A simple word search in the book's PDF file will locate the corresponding chapter if you wish to find it. The organization of the material is similar to that of the Unified Theories, but this is not directly linked to those documents. As a final note, please let me know if I have not covered something. Enjoy.


How to Understand Evil


Definition of Evil

Evil is the immature choosing and the unthinking misstep of those who are resistant to goodness, rejectful of beauty, and disloyal to truth. Evil is only the misadaptation of immaturity or the disruptive and distorting influence of ignorance. Evil is the inevitable darkness which follows upon the heels of the unwise rejection of light. Evil is that which is dark and untrue, and which, when consciously embraced and willfully endorsed, becomes sin.

There are many ways of looking at sin, but from the universe philosophic viewpoint sin is the attitude of a personality who is knowingly resisting cosmic reality. Error might be regarded as a misconception or distortion of reality. Evil is a partial realization of, or maladjustment to, universe realities. But sin is a purposeful resistance to divine reality – a conscious choosing to oppose spiritual progress – while iniquity consists in an open and persistent defiance of recognized reality and signifies such a degree of personality disintegration as to border on cosmic insanity.

From this, we can see that:

1.       The heart of evil is selfish actions and desires.
2.       The fundamental cause is either immaturity or ignorance.
3.       The effect is losing sight of truth, beauty, and goodness, which warps the mind’s perception of associated values.


The Evil of Rebellion

One of the major mediums of evil is control, especially that over others. Controlling things to satiate the self is, in a sense, taking control away from God or controlling things like God. Controlling things like God is not a problem when following the will of God, but the issue is that this is done while serving the self instead of others. God’s will is linked with His values or ideals. They are inseparable. God is love; therefore he must be good, and his goodness is so great and real that it cannot contain the small and unreal things of evil. To turn away from that associated will is essentially the same as turning away from truth, beauty, and goodness.

Taking these things into consideration, for a spirit to rebel against God, they must alter their previous moral code because it was built with God as the source. You basically have to dismiss the morals existing as part of God’s will in order to dismiss that will itself. For instance, rejecting an order from Deity means you either do not wish to follow that will, or you are confused as to how such an order reflects values of truth, beauty, and goodness inherent in Deity action. Such a refusal likely results from the desire to pursue one’s own desires, or a misunderstanding of what that will represents and leads to. Such issues of rebellion erupt from the same causes of evil: immaturity and ignorance. In other words, a lack of knowledge, experience, or wisdom leads one to make bad choices. Such is true in both spiritual and human affairs, but the dynamics of each can be very different given the context found within each group.


Experiencing Good and Evil

Good and evil are merely words symbolizing relative levels of human comprehension of the observable universe. If you are ethically lazy and socially indifferent, you can take as your standard of good the current social usages. If you are spiritually indolent and morally unprogressive, you may take as your standards of good the religious practices and traditions of your contemporaries. But the soul that survives time and emerges into eternity must make a living and personal choice between good and evil as they are determined by the true values of the spiritual standards established by the divine spirit which the Father in heaven has sent to dwell within the heart of man. This indwelling spirit is the standard of personality survival.

Goodness, like truth, is always relative and unfailingly evil-contrasted. It is the perception of these qualities of goodness and truth that enables the evolving souls of men to make those personal decisions of choice which are essential to eternal survival. The spiritually blind individual who logically follows scientific dictation, social usage, and religious dogma stands in grave danger of sacrificing his moral freedom and losing his spiritual liberty. Such a soul is destined to become an intellectual parrot, a social automaton, and a slave to religious authority.

Goodness is always growing toward new levels of the increasing liberty of moral self-realization and spiritual personality attainment — the discovery of, and identification with, the indwelling Adjuster. An experience is good when it heightens the appreciation of beauty, augments the moral will, enhances the discernment of truth, enlarges the capacity to love and serve one’s fellows, exalts the spiritual ideals, and unifies the supreme human motives of time with the eternal plans of the indwelling Adjuster, all of which lead directly to an increased desire to do the Father’s will, thereby fostering the divine passion to find God and to be more like him.

As you ascend the universe scale of creature development, you will find increasing goodness and diminishing evil in perfect accordance with your capacity for goodness-experience and truth-discernment. The ability to entertain error or experience evil will not be fully lost until the ascending human soul achieves final spirit levels. Goodness is living, relative, always progressing, invariably a personal experience, and everlastingly correlated with the discernment of truth and beauty. Goodness is found in the recognition of the positive truth-values of the spiritual level, which must, in human experience, be contrasted with the negative counterpart — the shadows of potential evil.

Until you attain Paradise levels, goodness will always be more of a quest than a possession, more of a goal than an experience of attainment. But even as you hunger and thirst for righteousness, you experience increasing satisfaction in the partial attainment of goodness. The presence of goodness and evil in the world is in itself positive proof of the existence and reality of man’s moral will, the personality, which thus identifies these values and is also able to choose between them.

By the time of the attainment of Paradise the ascending mortal’s capacity for identifying the self with true spirit values has become so enlarged as to result in the attainment of the perfection of the possession of the light of life. Such a perfected spirit personality becomes so wholly, divinely, and spiritually unified with the positive and supreme qualities of goodness, beauty, and truth that there remains no possibility that such a righteous spirit would cast any negative shadow of potential evil when exposed to the searching luminosity of the divine light of the infinite Rulers of Paradise. In all such spirit personalities, goodness is no longer partial, contrastive, and comparative; it has become divinely complete and spiritually replete; it approaches the purity and perfection of the Supreme.

The possibility of evil is necessary to moral choosing, but not the actuality thereof. A shadow is only relatively real. Actual evil is not necessary as a personal experience. Potential evil acts equally well as a decision stimulus in the realms of moral progress on the lower levels of spiritual development. Evil becomes a reality of personal experience only when a moral mind makes evil its choice.


Forms of Evil

Your Father, by endowing you with the power to choose between truth and error, created the potential negative of the positive way of light and life; but such errors of evil are really nonexistent until such a time as an intelligent creature wills their existence by mischoosing the way of life. And then are such evils later exalted into sin by the knowing and deliberate choice of such a willful and rebellious creature. This is why our Father in heaven permits the good and the evil to go along together until the end of life, just as nature allows the wheat and the tares to grow side by side until the harvest.

Evil exists as an action or activity, with its root existing within the personal goals of the being. The decision-making process, or that of cause and effect, is what moves one from evil as a potential to evil as an actuality. A person first needs the thoughts or goals that lead up to the evil act, followed by the willful decision to continue. But without the activity, a person is only evil in potential, though it is certainly possible that some individuals are guaranteed to act in such a way if allowed to do so.

What leads to the choice is either decay in the moral standards of the individual, or the lack of learning such standards in the first place. Evil is not necessarily seen in the changing of personal ideals, but the consequences of that change. However, the selfishness that can result from such a change in views leads one to allow the option of harming others in the pursuit of goals. This is because there is a lack of love for others compared to the love for the self, which means such love for others is inferior to the goals the self creates. It is also possible that since the benefits of selflessness are largely spiritual in nature, those who are not in touch with their spiritual side are less likely to see or feel such benefits since they are more intangible. In the end, there are two basic forms of evil born from action:

1.       Evil means – causing harm in order to reach a goal or make reaching it an easier task
2.       Evil end – a personal goal that can cause harm if achieved

Causing harm can be defined as:

1.       causing physical, mental, or spiritual injury
2.       killing, either physically or spiritually
3.       forcing one to regress or give up the benefits of personal growth
4.       manipulating or controlling the will of others
5.       reducing the potentials of an individual
6.       decreasing the ability of others to benefit from a situation


Mediums of Evil

1.       Power – The freedom to reach goals through the utilization of personal strengths, resources, social influence, or authority. Power is often exploited because it increases the likelihood of gaining reward from personal action, which means selfish behavior can create better outcomes for the individual.
2.       Control – A form of power initiated over a situation, person, or environment in order to alter it. Similar to power, control is used as a means to an end. It is absolutely worthless as an end itself because its value exists in what it can help achieve.
3.       Fear – An unpleasant feeling caused by the belief that someone or something is dangerous, likely to cause pain, or a threat. Fear drives a person to act in abnormal ways, altering the perception of values in a fight or flight response to stress. Because of this, fear is able to get us to act in ways that often contradict our own moral code, and works as an excuse to validate poor behavior.
4.       Anger – A strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure, or hostility. Anger can lead us to doing terrible things to others, even those we care for. It creates an inner stress in the body that has to be released through either: eliminating the cause, venting frustrations mentally, or physically relieving tension. Our pursuit of these things often makes us blind to the consequences of our actions.
5.       Hatred – An intense dislike or ill will. Not only does this require a serious lack of love for the subject in question, but it can also be created by emotions like fear and anger. Hatred keeps us from assessing the situation fairly, and leads to us being more judgmental – especially toward the subject in question. It creates situations where we find it okay to cross the line because we feel that others are deserving of the consequences. It even makes future hardships we may take on in response to such behavior more bearable, because we may feel validated for doing wrong against a person we greatly dislike.


Examples of Evil

What is provided below is a list of the seven sins often identified as sources of negative behavior. In the end, these are niche expressions of human thought, emotion, and action, which ultimately increase the likelihood of future evil.

1.       Wrath – An extreme form of anger and whatever that happens to lead to. This is more of an emotional imbalance for people who cannot cope with their environment or situation, leading to disgust for others. The two parts of this are what can trigger wrath, and how such anger is expressed through the individual. Wrath is not technically evil if it does not lead to action, although it can retard spiritual growth and acceptance.
2.       Greed – An intense selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or basic resources. This is commonly known as the root of all evil, but such is not really the case. Greed often comes about through many personal reasons, often boiling down to either fear or misinterpreted needs. The desire in question can also range from the tangible (wealth, food, property) to the intangible (power, authority, social influence). It is very similar to both lust and gluttony.
3.       Lust – This often exists as an unnaturally large craving for sexual pleasure, but the root of it is any sort of unnecessarily large desire for something. Here, the thing in question does not always matter. What is important is how much the desire twists the personality. Lust is frequently categorized as a continual yearning for things of a carnal nature, and in the worst case can lead to rape, but there are still many sources of pleasure one could be uncontrollably striving for. At the end of the day, it is one more example of a person devoting their attention to something of little spiritual importance.
4.       Gluttony – This is defined as habitual greed or an excess in eating, but its root is addiction. Another way of looking at it is that you are being greedy over your food, and that you are consuming more while reducing the amount other people can have. In a lot of cases this isn’t exactly true, but it still remains an addiction to a physically pleasing activity that offers no value for the soul.
5.       Pride – This is a feeling, deep pleasure, or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements of those with whom one is associated with, or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired by others. Pride can keep a person from being humble because humbleness often keeps the traits associated with pride from being expressed. Pride may even require someone to stand out among the crowd, or rise above others. The method of which depends on the environment, but it undoubtedly requires the use of corrupted power.
6.       Envy – A feeling of discontented or resentful longing created by someone else's possessions, qualities, or luck. Envy is often driven by a lack of self-love. You want to be like someone else because you don’t like who you are, or don’t see the value in your current self. This usually indicates that a person already does not operate with the eyes of spirit, because they do not know what is truly valuable. As for wanting things other people own, this is more so a variant of greed.
7.       Sloth – A reluctance to work or make an effort. The main problem with such laziness is that it keeps people from doing good, even if it also means they may not be doing anything bad to others. It follows that such personal idleness or apathy stops a person from improving situations they come across. Also, laziness not only reduces the speed of growth and ascension, but increases the likelihood of spiritual regression. It is ultimately the act of allowing mediocrity in one’s life.


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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2016, 08:53:39 PM »
Overmind, I wonder if you really get at the life of evil?

You have to almost ask it that way instead of turning the argument around and placing it on the one who chooses.


How would you describe evil that way?  As a life of its own organization.  Be caring you do not just restate your work above.


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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2016, 11:05:47 PM »
You mean evil as a force all on its own?

It is kind of hard for me to think of it that way. I would reason that such a force would need a creator, and that the creation of it is in itself an immoral act. This makes the creator of it already evil, which means evil exists before it is created. I find that a contradiction like that doesn't really exist.

Another way to think about this is that good and evil (in broad terms) aren't just seen in action alone, because God is good even without the action necessary to prove it to others. The problem I have is that if a person is truly evil, then I would probably call them sinful, and here the definition of each is a little different.

Another answer might be that an evil person has an absence of love in their heart, and that absence in addition to will can create evil as natural byproduct. However, I would rather call that being heartless. Plus, even if such is the case, or even if a person is amoral, is it truly right for us to judge them as evil if there has never been an example of evil behavior? What if they follow a good moral code given to them by another, even if they cannot actually grasp the real difference of right and wrong? Here, the ignorance is present because of some spiritual or mental disorder, but it's not necessarily the individual's fault, so I don't know how to classify them without the presence of God's judgment.

The way you phrase the question, it is as if you are saying there is a natural counter force to goodness that somehow rears its ugly head, but evil still cannot present itself without there being a willed creature involved. Even if such a thing existed, it would still be required for the creature to make a choice on the matter. As Jesus mentioned in the Urantia Book, evil has to exist as a potential decision for man to make moral choices, but it does not need to be experienced or chosen. So I hold onto the idea that it is mostly dependent on the behavior of the given being.
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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2016, 11:08:26 PM »
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I wanted to take a serious and comprehensive look at what evil truly is, and why it exists.
Thanks for your usual well considered work.
While I can understand your approach in defining/describing evil, for my purposes of improving self I view it something like this: (Personal view, without ref to UB).

Evil (state, energy, spirit, or attributes) exists within Our Fathers' realm. If it didn't then Our Father is not universal.
Our Fathers' Nature towards His creations is Love. Evil is the other polarity.
Evil requires Free Will beings for it to manifest.
Free Will beings manifest evil due to the lack of knowledge/belief/remembrance of Our Father.
Free Will beings of power/influence may use the attributes of evil you mention to enhance their own egos. This requires they deny knowledge of Our Father to lesser beings, and place themselves as a the figurehead to replace the Father-figure we naturally seek.

Due to the insidious integration of evil in our societal systems  my preferred approach is to try to understand the positive (Love) of Our Father (the prime creator force of us, in Love but allowing free will).

I take this approach because our planetary systems have been inundated with evil. By that I mean - throughout our (Human) evolution we have been denied the knowledge of our true Father by (for example):
- genetic manipulation by evil doers who wish to limit our knowledge and have us use serve their own needs.
- a society which they have manipulated to control power, wealth and our labor to their own ends (egos). This is largely achieved by fear, mind programming through media, hiding truth and protection of a monetary system with which we must abide (but in itself has no value - numbers in the controlling eternities computers).

Through apathy (or inaction if we have knowledge) and/or lack of knowledge of Love we have supported societal and education systems which have generally taught us, thus we habitually take actions supporting evil.
That programming is so deeply embedded we need to be very alert to change it.

So to conclude.  I wish to study Love, so as to integrate it, and by that avoid my actions which may be negative/evil. There may be value in studying evil but I hope I see it without the depressing study of it.

With Love to All. Jim
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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2016, 11:17:17 PM »
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Evil (state, energy, spirit, or attributes) exists within Our Fathers' realm. If it didn't then Our Father is not universal.
It sounds like you are stating evil existed within the Infinitude, but I would argue that such things as morality wouldn't have been all that discernible until the I AM reorganized everything. And just because we add "universal" onto the Father's name does not mean he possesses the same traits as his creatures. Even if the Father is infinite, there can still be things excluded from that infinity. Infinity does not have to mean "everything", just "endless".

The thing is, before the Trinity went on to make the superuniverses, evil could not exist in any way, shape or form, at least not as a trait possessed by anything in creation at that time. After all, the Havona natives started out perfect, and none have defaulted. You could argue that evil is still a force recognized by the Deity Absolute, but that is in the realm of possibility, the very realm we discuss when talking about the decision-making process of mankind.
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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2016, 11:32:34 PM »
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You mean evil as a force all on its own?

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Our Fathers' Nature towards His creations is Love. Evil is the other polarity.
If Love is Positive, is Evil it's Negative?
if so,
If Evil is a force, is Love another force?
or
are Evil and Love negative and positive aspects of the same force. If so does the force have its own name? (just an unconsidered thought that come to mind).
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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2016, 11:33:22 PM »
Do you think this statement is true?

"Evil can choose itself?"

Can you state the following as a true postulate?

Father created reality as I AM.  He choose constituent parts that must work in an exact way or they do not work.

Statement below:  Is it true or false?  Why?

"When they (constituent parts) do not work in an exact way, evil results."

Please answer.  Your life does not depend on it. 8)
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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2016, 11:44:35 PM »
Overmind and James.  I am not trying to be a smarty pants, but I am trying to teach you that when discussing evil you have to look outside of morality too!  You Overmind insist upon describing the roots of evil from a moral perspective. Can evil or should evil also be looked upon as a or the malfunction of universe law, and is all universe law, moral?

To really discuss evil you have at least five parameters to look at and examine philosophically and spiritually:

1) Is morality the only reason evil exists?

2) Is there an additional force alive in the universe that tests evil as present and non-associable of personality?

3) Is evil difficult to comprehend?

4) Does evil relate to good in any way?

5) Where does evil go when it is defeated?

Come on now, get beyond the Urantia Book in respect to understanding why evil is present and good sometimes is not?  Explain evil in terms of a) corruption;   2) malfeasance of duty;   3) distribution of choices none of which are good.  The only way I know for any Paper on evil is worth anything is to take it apart and put yourself in its shoes.  Where do those shoes take you if you want to escape the consequences of universe law?  Why do the shoes of evil even exist and how can you make them go away?  Is it, by your contention Overmind, a personal choice, or just a coincidence that Lucifer was made powerful by the ill gotten gains to control the good contrary to its use?

If we are going to present Papers concerning distinctive lapses of universe mechanisms and forces for good, then go whole heartedly into the lion's den and shake that treatise by the scruff of the neck and let's hear some manly statements as conclusions to questions I have asked and the universe has asked for millennia.

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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2016, 11:49:51 PM »
Do you think this statement is true?

"Evil can choose itself?"

Can you state the following as a true postulate?

Father created reality as I AM.  He choose constituent parts that must work in an exact way or they do not work.

Statement below:  Is it true or false?  Why?

"When they (constituent parts) do not work in an exact way, evil results."

Please answer.  Your life does not depend on it. 8)

It seems to me Free Will entities can fully consciously choose to support other entities they know/believe to be evil natured. Humans can knowingly decide to do evil actions.
I need to consider is Evil an entity, or is there a 'Spirit of Evil'.
It seems to me that Evil must be an entity/force if one can decide to support it. thus evil does not exist simply because Fathers' Love based plan does not turn out as expected.    Jimmy is still thinking tho.
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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2016, 11:56:10 PM »
I don't have enough time right now to put much thought into these, but here goes.

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Do you think this statement is true?

"Evil can choose itself?"
No, because evil alone does not have will. Evil is a word we use to describe willed beings or actions done by willed beings. Because I like to be real specific about word choice and definitions, I find that evil alone becomes too ambiguous in these discussions.

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Can you state the following as a true postulate?

Father created reality as I AM.  He choose constituent parts that must work in an exact way or they do not work.
You might need to be more descriptive for me to get this part. First, I would mention that the Father did not create everything in reality alone, as quite a bit was done through the Trinity. What you might be saying is "Father organized the Infinitude as I AM". Before I get to the second sentence, let's look at the next statement.
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"When they (constituent parts) do not work in an exact way, evil results."
First of all, "not working" is not necessarily evil, at least not in the given context. Right now, it just means useless. Secondly, how do such constituent parts not work in the right way if God is the one that picked them out and organized them?

I think I get where you are going with the questions. Is evil the result of us altering whatever happens to be part of God's plan? Or does it exist when we make new parts that do not fit in with the parts already created? The former speaks of ignorance, the latter immaturity. They might both be true. At the moment, I don't have the time to go into it much further.
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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2016, 12:10:09 AM »
I'm short on time right now also but part of my current thinking is that evil is part of the Grand design, as otherwise free willed ascending beings would not present the diversity of opportunity and creative outcomes Our Father desires to experience through them.
Jim
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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2016, 01:35:48 AM »
Further thoughts on evil (and Love!) -

Perhaps the fulcrum is within "Free Will". That is - Love (or a similar word) is the positive aspect, Evil the negative.

So, within Free Will choice, Love is the name given to Children to Father attraction; Evil is the opposite (or lack) of it.

(Love is the action that will occur naturally but enhanced by conscious choice. Evil, even if it is just the lack of being loving, requires a negative action; albeit motivated by our conscious choice, or secret manipulation of us by others).

If the above is true we need to discuss the mode of existence/nature of Free Will.

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The same word Love is also (unfortunately) used as the name of the enduring/unconditional desire (gravity) of The Father for His children to ascend to Him.

Love to All, Jim
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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2016, 06:59:05 AM »
Hi All, far be it for me to compete with all you intelligent guys but I am "prompted" to re-state the following from the first page
of " A Course in Miracles".   "Nothing real can be threatened, nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God".  We can all, I
believe, make the mistake of giving credence to that which actually cannot exist of and by itself. In other words, evil is man-made
not God-made.
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2016, 09:30:11 AM »
Ron, I had the thought last night that the questions you ask actually have a lot more to do with order versus chaos, rather than good versus evil. Those are states that deal with function and organization rather than free will choice.
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Re: How to Understand Evil
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2016, 10:52:38 AM »
Hello all

Let me see if I can add some thoughts to this discussion. When thinking about the potential of evil within the I AM this comes to mind. "I took what was useful to me and discarded what is not." Thus I would reckon that God in the Infinity and Eternity simply discarded evil and manifested goodness. This is perhaps simply a philosophical statement and by itself is meaningless because I am pretty sure that both evil and goodness as words and meanings, to a mortal finite creature like me, or any finite creature or being for that matter, are a matter of perspective. Thus perhaps it would be meaningless (for me) to state that God really chose goodness or evil, but rather he chose to exercise his Will in ways he saw fit. "I am Who I am, and I will do what I want."

So... what happens when God decides to bestow Will/create another Will? I reckon the same process occurs. That is the new Will chooses or will attempt to choose what to do and what not to do, except... the orginal Will is already existential, infinite and eternal. A whole new adventure occurs or has occured here as this new Will has no choice in one matter, and that is it cannot choose to decide for the original Will anything, it can only decide for itself. But the original Will can choose what to do with the new Will simply by the primacy of its existence. (After all it chose to make another Will) It can at any time state "How can you choose what I am when I already AM and have chosen?" The other Will can respond "How can you claim I AM like you if I cannot choose what to do with you?" This creates a contradiction. An eternal impasse if both Wills are absolute. There is no development and no point. So what happens when the original Will states "I will give you everything that I AM, yet the moment you decide to reject it you will lose everything." (note that the original Will doesn't ask this it states this.) This creates an association between two seperate Wills, and at the same time the orignal Will or "Goodness" as we like to call it, gains purpose, value and meaning, because it exists for the other Will to experience. The original Will creates purpose, value and meaning for itself by creating another Will. So this Goodness now exists in both Wills and provides the basis of Unity, because both Wills are now "Good", and can at the same time be existential, infinite and absolute, yet different.

So if I have to take a stab in wordplay, since God as value and meaning chose to do Goodness and then bestowed it to another, Goodness is both existential and experiential. Evil however cannot be existential because God has discarded it. But in associations between differences it can be experiential. Evil can be experienced, but it does not exists, at least it doesn't exist in the terms UB stated. Existential means it has no beginning and no end. For something to exist it has to be associated with existential Will. We as mortals do not have existential Will. To be honest I am not sure if anyone in the local Universe who isn't Deity associated has existential Will, as only by Deity association and embrace of God's reality do we gain that "goodness" that finally enables us to gain existentiality. I remember reading in the UB that God is truly good and is love, yet Love is not by itself God. Rather Love is simply a manifestation of God exercising his Will. (oh wow I actually asked this when I was reading the other day, how can Love not be God... leave it to my adjuster veer me unto this as I am trying to give something to the forum :D). So if I attempted to use the same logic Goodness is not God, it is simply an existant manifestation of God's Will to be experienced. Just as evil is a manifestation of our own or others will that can be experienced, but evil is not existant and cannot be existant because God doesn't allow it to be existant.

Why did he chose to do so lies perhaps in the meanings of both good and evil? Goodness and Love by definition give and thus provide experience and perhaps sustenance to the being in question it is given to. Evil and hatred by definition takes from others and seeks to destroy others for its own seeming benefit. In existential terms the value of "Good" would cause and manifest more of itself and thus enrich Creation, and Create more meanings and values, while the "value" of "evil" would only cause the said Will to turn in on itself, and thus have no purpose and meaning and thus no value. In experiential terms however both "goodness" and "evil" have value, as experience deals with transformation. The Will who experiences transforms experience into existence and is thus able to transform "evil" experience into "good" experience and thus associate itself more and more by the already existential Goodness.