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I wish to thank our celestial family for affording me this opportunity once again and thank Ron for posting it.

A very Happy and fulfilling Birthday to you Ron!

AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / LLUSA SUNDAY - 11 FEBRUARY
« on: February 11, 2024, 15:22:53 pm »
Hi Everyone!

Here is the link for the LLUSA SUNDAY - 11 FEBRUARY with your host Ron Besser:

AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / LLUSA SUNDAY - 4 FEBRUARY
« on: February 04, 2024, 15:14:07 pm »
Hello Everyone,

Here is the link to the audio tape for LLUSA SUNDAY - 4 FEBRUARY with your host Ron Besser.

Our thanks to all!

General Discussion / Merry Christmas
« on: December 25, 2023, 00:33:00 am »
Dear friends,

This day is celebrated in acknowledgement that Jesus the Christ was born in lowly earthly stature yet fully did he live to accomplish the will of our Heavenly Father.  Especially today may this serve as a reminder that we who are born of man are also gifted by Father do His will and to let His Light shine.

Merry Christmas today and all to come...

This special Lightline was requested by the Father through Ron and is identified as Part 1 of 2.  Part 2 is expected to be given on the SUNDAY LLUSA with Ron Besser as host.


Use the "search" feature and type in WTP to show you all the posts to read here on WTP.  I did so and lot's of posts came up.

here is a link to one of the posts made by Ron that directly answers your question.;topicseen#msg96966   Your question is answered directly in the first paragraph.


There is a link on this site called " Translate... "   where anyone can get instant translation for anything that is posted.

This makes it totally unnecessary for you to make 50 or more posts when you decide everyone in the world needs to know what you think is important.

Há um link neste site chamado "Traduzir..." onde qualquer pessoa pode obter tradução instantânea para qualquer coisa que seja postada.
Isso torna totalmente desnecessário fazer 50 ou mais posts quando você decide que todos no mundo precisam saber o que você acha importante.
Hay un enlace en este sitio llamado "Traducir..." donde cualquiera puede obtener una traducción instantánea de cualquier cosa que se publique.
Esto hace que sea totalmente innecesario que hagas 50 o más publicaciones cuando decides que todos en el mundo necesitan saber lo que crees que es importante.

Threads for New Transmissions / Re: FASTING
« on: March 11, 2022, 13:41:36 pm »
87.2.4 Silence or mourning was observed after a death so that the ghost would not be attracted back home. Self-torture - wounds - was a common form of mourning. Many advanced teachers tried to stop this, but they failed. Fasting and other forms of self-denial were thought to be pleasing to the ghosts, who took pleasure in the discomfort of the living during the transition period of lurking about before their actual departure for deadland.
87.6.16 Next came the practice of ritual vows, soon to be followed by religious pledges and sacred oaths. Most of these oaths were accompanied by self-torture and self-mutilation; later on, by fasting and prayer. Self-denial was subsequently looked upon as being a sure coercive; this was especially true in the matter of sex suppression. And so primitive man early developed a decided austerity in his religious practices, a belief in the efficacy of self-torture and self-denial as rituals capable of coercing the unwilling spirits to react favorably toward all such suffering and deprivation.
89.3.1 Renunciation came as the next step in religious evolution; fasting was a common practice. Soon it became the custom to forgo many forms of physical pleasure, especially of a sexual nature. The ritual of the fast was deeply rooted in many ancient religions and has been handed down to practically all modern theologic systems of thought.
89.4.1 Sacrifice as a part of religious devotions, like many other worshipful rituals, did not have a simple and single origin. The tendency to bow down before power and to prostrate oneself in worshipful adoration in the presence of mystery is foreshadowed in the fawning of the dog before its master. It is but one step from the impulse of worship to the act of sacrifice. Primitive man gauged the value of his sacrifice by the pain which he suffered. When the idea of sacrifice first attached itself to religious ceremonial, no offering was contemplated which was not productive of pain. The first sacrifices were such acts as plucking hair, cutting the flesh, mutilations, knocking out teeth, and cutting off fingers. As civilization advanced, these crude concepts of sacrifice were elevated to the level of the rituals of self-abnegation, asceticism, fasting, deprivation, and the later Christian doctrine of sanctification through sorrow, suffering, and the mortification of the flesh.
90.4.8 Fasting, dieting, and counterirritants were often used as remedial measures. Human secretions, being definitely magical, were highly regarded; blood and urine were thus among the earliest medicines and were soon augmented by roots and various salts. The shamans believed that disease spirits could be driven out of the body by foul-smelling and bad-tasting medicines. Purging very early became a routine treatment, and the values of raw cocoa and quinine were among the earliest pharmaceutical discoveries.
100.5.10 The more healthful attitude of spiritual meditation is to be found in reflective worship and in the prayer of thanksgiving. The direct communion with one's Thought Adjuster, such as occurred in the later years of Jesus' life in the flesh, should not be confused with these so-called mystical experiences. The factors which contribute to the initiation of mystic communion are indicative of the danger of such psychic states. The mystic status is favored by such things as: physical fatigue, fasting, psychic dissociation, profound aesthetic experiences, vivid sex impulses, fear, anxiety, rage, and wild dancing. Much of the material arising as a result of such preliminary preparation has its origin in the subconscious mind.

136.3.3 Jesus did not go into retirement for the purpose of fasting and for the affliction of his soul. He was not an ascetic, and he came forever to destroy all such notions regarding the approach to God. His reasons for seeking this retirement were entirely different from those which had actuated Moses and Elijah, and even John the Baptist. Jesus was then wholly self-conscious concerning his relation to the universe of his making and also to the universe of universes, supervised by the Paradise Father, his Father in heaven. He now fully recalled the bestowal charge and its instructions administered by his elder brother, Immanuel, ere he entered upon his Urantia incarnation. He now clearly and fully comprehended all these far-flung relationships, and he desired to be away for a season of quiet meditation so that he could think out the plans and decide upon the procedures for the prosecution of his public labors in behalf of this world and for all other worlds in his local universe.
136.4.10 The forty days in the mountain wilderness were not a period of great temptation but rather the period of the Master's great decisions. During these days of lone communion with himself and his Father's immediate presence - the Personalized Adjuster (he no longer had a personal seraphic guardian) - he arrived, one by one, at the great decisions which were to control his policies and conduct for the remainder of his earth career. Subsequently the tradition of a great temptation became attached to this period of isolation through confusion with the fragmentary narratives of the Mount Hermon struggles, and further because it was the custom to have all great prophets and human leaders begin their public careers by undergoing these supposed seasons of fasting and prayer. It had always been Jesus' practice, when facing any new or serious decisions, to withdraw for communion with his own spirit that he might seek to know the will of God.
140.5.8 2. “Happy are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled.” Only those who feel poor in spirit will ever hunger for righteousness. Only the humble seek for divine strength and crave spiritual power. But it is most dangerous to knowingly engage in spiritual fasting in order to improve one's appetite for spiritual endowments. Physical fasting becomes dangerous after four or five days; one is apt to lose all desire for food. Prolonged fasting, either physical or spiritual, tends to destroy hunger.
140.6.3 “I demand of you a righteousness that shall exceed the righteousness of those who seek to obtain the Father's favor by almsgiving, prayer, and fasting.  If you would enter the kingdom, you must have a righteousness that consists in love, mercy, and truth - the sincere desire to do the will of my Father in heaven.”
140.6.11 When Jesus heard this, he said: “Be willing, then, to take up your responsibilities and follow me. Do your good deeds in secret; when you give alms, let not the left hand know what the right hand does. And when you pray, go apart by yourselves and use not vain repetitions and meaningless phrases. Always remember that the Father knows what you need even before you ask him. And be not given to fasting with a sad countenance to be seen by men. As my chosen apostles, now set apart for the service of the kingdom, lay not up for yourselves treasures on earth, but by your unselfish service lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, for where your treasures are, there will your hearts be also.
142.8.1 By the end of April the opposition to Jesus among the Pharisees and Sadducees had become so pronounced that the Master and his apostles decided to leave Jerusalem for a while, going south to work in Bethlehem and Hebron. The entire month of May was spent in doing personal work in these cities and among the people of the surrounding villages. No public preaching was done on this trip, only house-to-house visitation. A part of this time, while the apostles taught the gospel and ministered to the sick, Jesus and Abner spent at Engedi, visiting the Nazarite colony. John the Baptist had gone forth from this place, and Abner had been head of this group. Many of the Nazarite brotherhood became believers in Jesus, but the majority of these ascetic and eccentric men refused to accept him as a teacher sent from heaven because he did not teach fasting and other forms of self-denial.
146.2.15 14. Jesus warned his followers against thinking that their prayers would be rendered more efficacious by ornate repetitions, eloquent phraseology, fasting, penance, or sacrifices. But he did exhort his believers to employ prayer as a means of leading up through thanksgiving to true worship. Jesus deplored that so little of the spirit of thanksgiving was to be found in the prayers and worship of his followers. He quoted from the Scriptures on this occasion, saying: “It is a good thing to give thanks to the Lord and to sing praises to the name of the Most High, to acknowledge his loving-kindness every morning and his faithfulness every night, for God has made me glad through his work. In everything I will give thanks according to the will of God.”
147.7.2 On Tuesday evening Jesus was conducting one of his customary classes of questions and answers when the leader of the six spies said to him: “I was today talking with one of John's disciples who is here attending upon your teaching, and we were at a loss to understand why you never command your disciples to fast and pray as we Pharisees fast and as John bade his followers.” And Jesus, referring to a statement by John, answered this questioner: “Do the sons of the bridechamber fast while the bridegroom is with them? As long as the bridegroom remains with them, they can hardly fast. But the time is coming when the bridegroom shall be taken away, and during those times the children of the bridechamber undoubtedly will fast and pray. To pray is natural for the children of light, but fasting is not a part of the gospel of the kingdom of heaven. Be reminded that a wise tailor does not sew a piece of new and unshrunk cloth upon an old garment, lest, when it is wet, it shrink and produce a worse rent. Neither do men put new wine into old wine skins, lest the new wine burst the skins so that both the wine and the skins perish. The wise man puts the new wine into fresh wine skins. Therefore do my disciples show wisdom in that they do not bring too much of the old order over into the new teaching of the gospel of the kingdom. You who have lost your teacher may be justified in fasting for a time. fasting may be an appropriate part of the law of Moses, but in the coming kingdom the sons of God shall experience freedom from fear and joy in the divine spirit.” And when they heard these words, the disciples of John were comforted while the Pharisees themselves were the more confounded.
147.8.5 And then long into the night Jesus propounded to his apostles the truth that it was their faith that made them secure in the kingdom of the present and the future, and not their affliction of soul nor fasting of body. He exhorted the apostles at least to live up to the ideas of the prophet of old and expressed the hope that they would progress far beyond even the ideals of Isaiah and the older prophets. His last words that night were: “Grow in grace by means of that living faith which grasps the fact that you are the sons of God while at the same time it recognizes every man as a brother.”

Music Compositions And Other Artistic Expressions / Re: Oh Danny Boy
« on: July 26, 2021, 13:50:46 pm »
Oh Lemuel,

One of my favorite songs to hear and sing as it is so heartfelt and revealing of the depths of love and loss and longing for that mystical connection we can't help but seek.  Many others I know feel the same as I, for countless times this song has come to the mind and heart of so many on this forum over the years.

Though written, I understand, by a Father for his son, it rings true in all love relationships of the caring and clarity of the pureness of unselfish love that cannot be denied.

« on: July 23, 2021, 15:42:48 pm »

My deepest and sincerest condolences to you Albert, may your loving memories be a balm of healing to you and your loved ones.

Hi Ron,

If there is no issue with issuing charitable donation receipts then I could see it being much less complicated as you have just suggested.  

Also interac-email transfer is another option I know is available now other than PayPal, and depending on your bank account there may be no send/receive fees involved.   I know of at least two Canadian banks who have been offering no-fee international email transfers to customers just in the last few months, so that can cut out a lot of the PayPal fees.  At one time no one else offered that type of service but banks now do and that must be for most major countries because they have been promoting the international email transfer.



This makes me wonder how individuals from around the world are currently able to come together to form support groups for specific projects, and what the financial logistics of that might entail.  I'm guessing since the physical work is taking place in the US, and specifically Pennsylvania, it would fall under the jurisdiction of their financial policies and reporting procedures.  Since it is really a not for profit venture and basic operating and promotional costs that must be covered, I’m guessing a specific mandate has to be outlined as to goals and objectives that must be stipulated and routinely proven to be supported and accomplished.   I would think that clearly outlined goals and objectives defined at the outset would be traceable and provable to the concerned authorities.  

Do you think it is possible to seek a revision of the goals with Starbridge group you outlined originally for the FER with the explanation that it is being replaced by an updated version known as the SER, with previous financials being presented as foundational projected expenses on behalf of the SER?   Basically seeking a revision of Starbridge Group, giving it a Board of Directors perhaps who are in no way salaried, only administratively involved.

Just trying to find a kicking off point here.

P.S.  I meant to mention as well that a Board could give you the ability to have multiple signatures required for payment or approval of expenses; example 3 approved signators with a minimum of two approvals for expenses type of idea, this covers any time period required if a member needs to be replaced at any time. 

Just putting some thoughts out there.

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