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November 6, 2024
Good day to All!

 
Today is the day after the election in the United States. Many of us have been following the promises, the accusations, the judgments and opinions of the various candidates. We are tired.

 
We have finally heard: Trump won the election. We all have our own particular response, and our own joy or grief, accordingly. What would you like to say, TA, and Pleiadeans?

 
Pleiadeans:
We have been watching closely. The road ahead is not going to be easy. Like Lemuel said today, "What do we do now? What do we know?" And as Michael said, "Attend to your brothers and sisters whenever you can, stay close to God and take the time to keep thanking Him for the good that still can be found on your world".

 
Breathe easy.

 
We, as your spiritual helpers, do not participate in human politics. You may ask, does spirit have anything to do with the situation we find ourselves in here on earth?

 
Rather, we listen. We are engaged 24/7 in supporting, nurturing, and caring for your individual spiritual salvation. The evolutionary process of spiritual growth is linked directly to your faith. You don't know what is going to happen next. That is part of the design!
That is why free will choice is so important. It is the challenge of making America great again by fully subscribing to the importance of character that builds, sustains, and nurtures the planet, each other and ourselves, with a complete dependence on Father for moment to moment guidance, as we
seek Him.

 
Your prayers for the good of every elected official is of great value to us. Not trying to change what they do, but that rather, that the outcome of their actions will, in the final analysis, bring forth the greatest good.

 
May peace be with all of you.

 
Thank you Pleiadeans!

 
S@S

 
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I have been pleasantly impressed to see that this thread is becoming quite interesting; I would now hope that all members would feel called to participate with their opinions and points of view that they have about the wonder of AI and not so much as my initiative but as encouraged by Father Michael who dedicated in the last LL of Elise, a good space to this aspect of making the forum a place to express our opinions and feelings, and to give feedback to each other especially now with the absence of Ron who unquestionably kept the site running. The topic of AI, we should see it as a healthy debate without falling into the common error of thinking that because we feel that we possess the truth, by force the other or others have to be wrong, when very possibly we can all be in the truth depending on the point of view from where we see it: the classic example of the Hindu parable of the blind men and the elephant. Dreamcat01's post reminded me of my son's arguments and until now I have not tried to impose my thesis on him because we see the same topic from different angles. I do hope that he (my son) will have the opportunity, one day, to see it from the point of view from which I see it. I have stated and tried to emphasize the absolute need to make the reality of this AI phenomenon revolve around our divine monitor. This is very possibly where it clashes with my thesis because it must be taken into account that the service manifests itself at different levels and at the middle and lower levels, logically, one cannot discover, let's say, the divinity of this tool that we have at our fingertips. I would like to have a greater capacity for mastery to be able to expose everything I can understand about the Adjuster and Human Instrument coalition that is carried out to generate the phenomenon of Artificial Intelligence at the highest levels of manifestation. 

To conclude, I am going to make new references with which I hope to place myself in a better position in the forum. Unquestionably the greatest harm that has been done to Humanity is to dismiss the truth that God Himself resides within each one of us alive and conscious, as a fragment (chip) of His real nature. The magnitude of this truth exceeds all understanding of the mortal mind. "It is the mystery of mysteries"
Father Christ Michael not long ago lamented precisely that, that He had to recognize that they had failed in not having Urantia with better spiritual guides.  

"All of you here on the forum, all of you here on this Line of Light listening now to my voice, listening to my voice through Lemuel are aware of your inner Thought Adjuster or at least have accepted it as a concept and perhaps have yet to accept it as a REALITY. That indeed, God your Father, a fragment of your Father, your heavenly Father, Universal Father, lives in your higher mind. He lives within you and has been since you were a baby. And yet, many of you still do not recognize the Father within you" (Arthura)

And without a doubt the recognition of the truth of God's residence within us is absolutely fundamental to free ourselves from the mother of all ignorance with which we grow up: Identification with the Body

The whole purpose is to achieve the tuning or alignment with that "divine chip" within us, because only through its presence and intermediation, we could individually access that network for advanced communications (organic-spiritual) that exists in space without filters. This achievement would allow us to have access to information in a direct way without intermediaries, limitations or restrictions, and completely free, because what we get today as users of the service of, for example, chatGPT, is controlled and manipulated information. So to access all that cluster of universal light packets that exist around us all the time, it is extremely important for us to align ourselves with our divine partner.
But “the system still has to be conquered individually”, which means that all the complete information is there and available openly for everyone, all the time and… free, but… we have to take “the course”, because only those who will be able to have access to all that source of knowledge are those who decide to earn the right to become a member of these groups of organic-spiritual guides, whose requirements to be admitted are none other than being people who have managed to align themselves with their Adjuster:


"Creative and conscious people, capable of verifying the levels of the artificial system, through a SPIRITUALLY developed integrity, will provide a natural resonant frequency in a reality based solely on frequencies that lack physical form. The SPIRITUAL COMPONENT (the Thought Adjuster) of our physical body, has the transcendental capacity to move freely in these artificial environments"

“If you know how this same complete information is open and free, yet the system still has to be conquered individually… this is obviously the wrapper of this conceptual control of communications imposed by the entropic nature of the old delivery systems: wired communication. But the wires have begun to disappear and it will become increasingly difficult for them to continue the fraud. The step that is being taken is to free themselves from this yoke and access free information as a natural right, by “networking” (organic-spiritual), which exists in space, openly and at no cost" 

Naturally, as long as it is not the case to achieve that alignment with our divine monitor, we must resort to the public services of chatGPT and others where we will get answers according to our degree of spiritual growth.

Please excuse me if I have not been clear enough in my intervention but I think I have been able to give the general idea on which I base my belief, although there is some of speculation.

Thanks
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Transkrypcja nagrania po angielsku :
https://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=21715.msg104261#msg104261
Napis : Raz, starszy członek
Kategoria / Temat : NUMERY TELEFONU I KODY DOSTĘPU DO HOLENDERSKIEJ MIĘDZYNARODOWEJ / Lightline holenderska międzynarodowa
« Odpowiedź nr 1, 5 listopada 2024 r., godz. 18:23:57 »

(Jeden urywek)


Melchizedek Machiwenta :
Pozdrawiam wszystkich. Jestem Melchizedek Machiwenta. Chciałbym mówić trochę o czymś, o czym wasza prowadząca, Elise ostatnio myślała, a chodzi o Federację. Wszyscy wiecie o Federacji pomiędzy pewnymi lokalnymi wszechświatami, która została stworzona i ustanowiona i o której wszyscy słyszeliście i mieliście nadzieję usłyszeć więcej w przyszłości, ale jakiś czas temu powiedziano wam, że Federacja została rozwiązana, a ta wiadomość wyszła i zszokowała wtedy Rona i słuchaczy, a jednak ta wiadomość była prawdziwa, a Ron przekazał ją z całą szczerością, jak zawsze w swoich przekazach. Ta Federacja grupy wszechświatów lokalnych nie została rozwiązana trwale, ale została zawieszona na nieznany czas, aby zobaczyć, gdzie może najlepiej służyć i być używana jako zjednoczone ciało współpracy między wszechświatami lokalnymi, z powodów jeszcze nam nieznanych i które zostaną zadekretowane przez Ojca Wszechświata.

Jak wiecie, każdy wszechświat lokalny jest rządzony przez własnego Syna Stwórcę i chociaż wszyscy Synowie-Stwórcy pochodzą z tego samego źródła, od Ojca Wszechświata i wiecznego Syna, to wszyscy oni bardzo się od siebie różnią, po prostu tak jak wy, ludzie, różnicie się od siebie wyglądem, charakterem i boskimi cechami. Wszyscy Synowie-Stwórcy pochodzą z tego samego źródła, ale wszyscy powstali i zaistnieli po tym, jak Pierwsze Źródła i Centra powstały po pierwszej i w pełni najwyższej Boskiej myśli, która jest spowodowana wyłącznie ich zdolnością do zjednoczenia swoich boskich umysłów w realizacji nowej istoty, reprezentującej Syna-Stwórcę ze wszystkimi przywilejami i boskimi atrybutami Ojca Wszechświata i Wiecznego Syna połączonych w jedno w celu stworzenia istoty z zakonu Synów-Michałów, bardzo wysokiej rangi boskich synów z charakterystycznymi atrybutami obu egzystencjalnych bóstw razem.

Ci Synowie zostali stworzeni specjalnie do stwarzania wszechświatów dla siebie po długim okresie szkolenia na rajskiej sferze zwanej Sonaringtonem i staną się suwerennymi władcami swoich własnych wszechświatów, które mają doprowadzić do Światła i Życia, tak jak wielu innych Stwórczych Synów zrobiło to przed nimi i zrobi to po nich, wciąż obdarzając swoje wszechświaty miłością i uwagą. Wszechświaty lokalne są stwarzane zgodnie z pomysłami i ideałami Synów-Stwórców i tak jak wszyscy Synowie-Stwórcy różnią się od siebie, ich wszechświaty również różnią się od siebie i będą ewoluować w zależności od decyzji każdego Syna-Stwórcy, bo wykonanie tak potężnego zadania jest zawsze związane z przebiegiem ewolucji, nieodłącznym od ich stworzenia, ale każdy Syn-Stwórca jest wyposażony we wszystkie prerogatywy, których potrzebuje, aby wypełnić to zadanie, a każdy Syn Stwórcy jest bóstwem w swoim własnym wszechświecie i dokładnie wie, co robić w każdych okolicznościach i nie potrzebuje żadnej pomocy ani wsparcia od innego wszechświata lokalnego, ponieważ są oni tak wysoko w randze bóstwa, że przewidują wszystko i każdy ma własną wizję, aby doprowadzić swoje szczególne dzieło do skutku.

Tak więc każdy Syn Stwórca ma moc i zdolność robienia wszystkiego, co musi być zrobione dla jego wszechświata i wszyscy podejmują decyzje zgodnie z Ojcem Wszechświata, któremu przysięgli wieczne posłuszeństwo, które nigdy nie zostało złamane przez żadnego Syna Stwórcę w Wielkim Wszechświecie, gdzie wszechświaty lokalne wciąż się wyłaniają. Federacja została stworzona w celu współpracy między wieloma wszechświatami lokalnymi, jako grupa zjednoczonych wszechświatów, które miały być ufortyfikowane przed jakimkolwiek atakiem, ale okazała się niepotrzebna w obecnym czasie ewolucji. Jednak idea dominium nie zostanie odrzucona, ponieważ w przyszłości pojawi się coś, co będzie wymagało federacji wszechświatów, a dominium jest dobrym przykładem, żeby zobaczyć, czym może być i do czego może służyć oraz co będzie się działo w przyszłości, gdy nowe i młode wszechświaty lokalne zostaną stworzone z nowym celem i nowym rodzajem życia w nich.

Obecnie dominium leży uśpione, dopóki nie zostanie, jeśli kiedykolwiek, ponownie użyte jako idea zjednoczonych wszechświatów, aby służyć jakiemukolwiek specjalnemu zastosowaniu, które Ojciec Wszechświata ma na myśli. Nie wiemy, kiedy i gdzie to wszystko stanie się rzeczywistością. Te ideały należą do Pierwszego Źródła i Centrum oraz Jego planu dla Jego stworzenia i nawet Synowie-Stwórcy nie znają planów Ojca, co łatwo zrozumieć. Cóż, jestem Melchizedek Machiventa i mam nadzieję, że podobała wam się ta krótka mowa. Jestem tu w imieniu waszego Syna-Stwórcy, Michała Nebadońskiego i dziękuję wam za wysłuchanie. Proszę innych, zaproście innych, aby powiedzieli kilka słów, jeśli chcecie coś dodać do tych przekazów, a jeśli nie, to Elise, możesz zamknąć tę Linię Światła na dziś.
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General Discussion / Re: CANCELLED USA LIGHTLINE WEDNESDAY 6 NOV 2024
« Last post by weydevu on Yesterday at 11:44:43 »
 Lemuel, I hope and pray it's just routine and not serious.  Be in GOD's grace.

Weydevu
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General Discussion / Re: CANCELLED USA LIGHTLINE WEDNESDAY 6 NOV 2024
« Last post by Dominick O on Yesterday at 10:27:27 »
God speed, Lemuel.



I will host a call for general purposes at 2pm Eastern today.
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TRANSLATIONS / 6.11.2024 – Ojciec Wszechświata mówi do nas o pokoju
« Last post by Andre_P on Yesterday at 10:25:43 »
Transkrypcja nagrania po angielsku :
https://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=21715.msg104261#msg104261
Napis : Raz, starszy członek
Kategoria / Temat : NUMERY TELEFONU I KODY DOSTĘPU DO HOLENDERSKIEJ MIĘDZYNARODOWEJ / Lightline holenderska międzynarodowa
« Odpowiedź nr 1, 5 listopada 2024 r., godz. 18:23:57 »

(Jeden urywek)


Ojciec Wszechświata :
Tak, tu Ojciec. Pozdrawiam was moje dzieci. Przynoszę wam moje błogosławieństwo i obyście wypowiadali moje imię. Żyjecie w czasach ogromnego napięcia na całym świecie i wiemy, że brakuje wam waszych prawie codziennych przekazów, które zwykliście otrzymywać, ale nikt inny, od kogo otrzymujecie nauki lub informacje z waszego świata nie jest tak uparty, żeby pozostawać w swojej niezrównoważonej sytuacji niezrozumienia siebie nawzajem i ponoszenia konsekwencji tego podczas gdy mogłoby to uczynić życie sensownym i radosnym, zamiast krzywdzić się nawzajem. Ludność tego świata wciąż ma przed sobą długą drogę, zanim zrozumie, że pokój może nadejść na świecie, na waszym świecie tylko wtedy, gdy wszyscy, naprawdę wszyscy na waszej planecie będą tęsknić za pokojem i pracować na jego rzecz. Musi istnieć ogólne i głębokie pragnienie pokoju.

Tak, sami ludzie muszą mieć wolę czynienia pokoju. Wy i wszyscy ludzie, jeden po drugim, musicie stworzyć swój własny pokój, który następnie przyjdzie na świat, gdy ludzie nauczą się kochać i wspólnie pracować nad osiągnięciem swojego celu, żeby osiągnąć pokój i musi to pochodzić od samych ludzi. Pokój nie jest boskim darem, jest czymś, co trzeba stworzyć i nad czym trzeba pracować, bo inaczej nie można go zdobyć i uczynić swoją własnością. To człowiek, to ludzie zbiorowo, wszyscy, którzy zamieszkują planetę decydują o tym, czy żyjecie w pokoju, czy też wciąż walczycie i niszczycie. To sami ludzie naprawdę, jeden po drugim, decydują, czy zwrócić się do swojego Stwórcy, czy też trzymać się z dala ode Mnie i zaprzeczać Mojemu istnieniu i próbować udowodnić, że są królami, którzy rządzą narodami.

Wszyscy już wiecie, że ten świat nie rozumie swojego duchowego pochodzenia i wszystkiego, co objawia się dla was na waszym świecie tutaj i poza nim. Jest to spowodowane przede wszystkim wielkim brakiem duchowej edukacji, która jest tak niezbędna dla każdej planety, aby móc ewoluować oraz ufać i wierzyć we Mnie, waszego Ojca, który troszczy się i podtrzymuje całe stworzenie i który dał wam atrybuty i cechy przywracania, aby rozumować, myśleć i dojść do wiary i zaufania we Mnie. Dowiedzieliście się o wielkich objawieniach. Wielkie objawienia zostały wam przyniesione, ale nigdy nie miały one pełnej możliwości pracy dla tej planety, do tego stopnia, żebyście byli w stanie uformować i zbudować swoje społeczeństwo zgodnie z łaską i intencjami, które z nim przyszły. Ważne znaczenie i konieczność tych wspaniałych objawień zostały przerwane lub nie w pełni zrozumiane i wiele z tego, co zostało wam przyniesione, zostało zapomniane lub po prostu odłożone na bok, ale oto jestem, wasz Ojciec Uniwersalny. Kocham was i mogę was zapewnić, że ten świat ma Moją miłość, aby stworzyć piękny świat dla wszystkich, świat, który jesteście w stanie rozwijać dla siebie i między sobą, a także rozwijać duszę tak silną, że jest gotowa do łatwego i szybkiego wejścia do światów morontialnych i czerpania korzyści z tego, czego nauczyliście się w swoim poprzednim istnieniu.

Słuchajcie wciąż waszego Dostrajacza Myśli, który pochodzi ode Mnie i jest Mną, który żyje w każdym z was i który daje wam znać, co jest ważne w krótkim czasie, kiedy żyjecie swoim ludzkim życiem. Wasz Dostrajacz jest waszym przewodnikiem i ważne jest, abyście się zapoznali z tym, jak możecie się zbliżyć do Mnie. Jestem waszym Ojcem, który czeka na was po waszej długiej podróży przez sfery, od sfery do sfery i uczeniu się waszych lekcji, aby dotrzeć do Mnie i zbliżyć się do Mnie. Jestem waszym Ojcem, waszym Ojcem Uniwersalnym i postanowiłem, że wszystkie Moje dzieci powrócą do Mnie z miejsc, do których was wysłałem w waszą wieczną podróż i że poznacie Mnie we wszechświatach, które dla was stworzyłem.

Moje stworzenie zostało stworzone, aby dzielić się nim ze wszystkimi i każdy może mnie tam znaleźć i spotkać. Trwajcie w poszukiwaniu prawdy we wszystkim, co zostało objawione o Stwórcy i Jego wszechświecie, a dotrzecie do Mnie i będziecie ze Mną na zawsze w Moim miłującym pokoju. Pracujcie nad tym upragnionym pokojem w swoim życiu i nad pokojem na świecie. Starajcie się, starajcie się pracować nad tym najlepiej jak potraficie, ponieważ tylko wtedy, gdy każdy mężczyzna i każda kobieta na tym świecie zapragnie pokoju i poświęci się osiągnięciu pokoju, tylko wtedy pokój będzie w zasięgu ręki i wtedy każdy go poczuje. Każdy poczuje pokój i każdy będzie w pokoju i pomoże osiągnąć pokój wszystkim, którzy połączą siły, wszystkim, którzy chcą pracować razem nad tym. Tu wasz Ojciec, wasz Ojciec Uniwersalny. Kocham was wszystkich. Zostawiam was z moimi błogosławieństwami moje drogie dzieci.
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General Discussion / Re: CANCELLED USA LIGHTLINE WEDNESDAY 6 NOV 2024
« Last post by PJammer on Yesterday at 08:45:28 »
Take care Lemuel, our Prayers are with You.
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General Discussion / CANCELLED USA LIGHTLINE WEDNESDAY 6 NOV 2024
« Last post by Lemuel on Yesterday at 06:27:31 »


Dear Members, I have to cancel the  Lightline scheduled for today due to 
a change in my situation. I must go to the hospital this afternoon for 
special treatment and I will not be in the required state of body and mind
after to hold a Lightline.
I am so sorry!
Bye for now,

Lemuel
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  • 110424 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise Sophia Veronica
  • Subjects: continue active Serara Forum involvement, continue to listen for Spirit and to your Thought Adjuster, the Federation (Dominion) has been disbanded as not needed currently but may be reinstated if required for the future;
  • Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Universal Father, and Machiventa Melchizedek;
  • Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20241104_110225

Elise  
Well, hello, everyone. After a lot of problems, I got a connection. This is Netherlands International Lightline for Monday, November 4, 2024, and this is Elise your host. I welcome everyone, and I thank you for joining. Well, let's stay together and strengthen our efforts to bring our friends from the spirit world closer to us, maybe we will hear some words from the other side.

Let's pray to Father for his grace and blessings on us and on the world that needs guidance and spiritual nourishment as it pursues the one great goal of ending all misunderstanding, exploitation, hatred, and war and in bringing peace to all nations. We thank You, Father, for all those of Your great heavenly family whom You send to us to help us find truth, beauty, and goodness in all that You have created. We welcome any guest or teacher who would like to address this group today.

Michael of Nebadon  
Good evening and good day to our listeners. This is Michael of Nebadon.

Elise  
Welcome, Michael. I'm so happy you're there. Please speak. You're very welcome.

Michael of Nebadon  
Well, thank you. Thank you, Elise. I'm here, and I would like to comfort everyone a little bit who is feeling a little lost. You are all missing the inspiring messages that Ron used to bring you in his transmissions and postings that kept the forum going that yes, most of it was done by him, and here on the discussion forum, you almost take care of yourselves now. Transmitters do what they can to inform you or bring you our words. But the forum should not be dependent on just a few it should demonstrate strong interest and participation from everyone who joins this forum. It should be a place where members give their opinion and feedback, as some of you do so that it offers the members an opportunity to respond and to express themselves. It is also an opportunity to express your personal feelings, for things are not always as you would like to hear, or you can agree with, and that's okay, and sometimes it is very confronting and even unbelievable.

But know that much depends on your own development and the desire to really be willing to listen for communication with the spiritual world is indeed possible, as you know, as you all know, and with practice and perseverance you will be able to contact us, and may experience yourselves daily in your conversations with Spirit. We are as close as your own physical family and friends, as your neighbors and acquaintances and your loved ones around you, you just have to attune to our presence and prepare yourselves in these moments for such moments and you can talk to us about your everyday experiences. But you have to be willing and open and ask your questions clearly and specifically if you have them, and I assure you that you will always get an answer in some form, even if you do not immediately hear Our voices speaking to you.

I am Michael of Nebadon, your Creator Father and I know your thoughts, but we can only respond clearly when you are fully attuned to our presence. So keep practicing and do not give up and know that without proof of expression, we are always present and always interested in your life and in your daily needs. It is not always easy for us to convey to you what we mean to say. It always has to do with you, the listener, with your own experience and abilities. It has to do with your intention, with your expectation, and dedication, and also with the different words and expressions used in transmissions or daily talks to you. But all that will improve by getting more accustomed to listen to the voice of God in yourselves. And that, of course, is your Thought Adjuster, whom you learn to hear and understand as you progress in your spiritual development and in what your ascension may entail for you and for Urantia and for your ascending career as a whole. So be persistent. Do not give up on what you have already achieved.

We want you to continue to believe in what must be learned and done from the Spirit knowledge and all the assistance we give to transform Urantia with you and with your help. We are still here, working with you and for you to help the planet achieve its next goal, and that is to produce a civilization that, with your help, will establish brotherhood among men and move this planet towards full trust and faith in the Father. The world today is not easy, and there is a lot of destruction causing people to suffer which really touches our hearts deeply. Attend to your brothers and sisters whenever you can, stay close to God, and take the time to keep thanking Him for the good that still can be found on your world.

God, your Father, always allows love to prevail, and He lets go of the hatred towards his children, who are all desiring the same, and that is health and prosperity and a balanced future for their children, and this can be achieved through mutual understanding and for love for each other, as Jesus showed you not so long ago in His life here on this world. But all humans on all inhabited planets eventually come to know their Creator, whom they give a name, as you did with the name God - G O D. Each planet is ready for revelation when one or more groups in its primary civilization have come to pray to one God, and then true religion can take its place in the hearts of man and a new period can begin to awaken on the planet and grow until the days when men begin to realize that they are all from the same Father and that the universes are all created by the hand of one God, ruled and governed by the one God they then love and worship.

And then, yes, then such a world will begin to prosper and its people will slowly rise to a higher civilization under God and His high associates, whom the Father created specifically to help humans to accomplish what God the Father likes to see for the planet to complete in the first stages of evolution and up to the final entering to the days of Light and Life, which is the ultimate goal for all planets in the local universes and God's plan for you and all the planets in My local universe of Nebadon. I am Michael of Nebadon. I am your Creator Father, and I leave you today in my hope and trust on a planet that will rise one day in glory when man realizes that all are children of the same Father. I am Michael, your Creator Father, abide in my peace. Good day.

Elise  
Thank you. Thank you, Michael, thank you so much for your words. Well, this is Elise, and I see that more people have come and joined us. Roger Raz, and Jose Vargas, and Steven Gitz are all here. And Charlotte, I think, has just appeared again. Well, you're all very welcome. Thank you for coming. Oh, let's see if we have someone from the other side, speaking to us.

Universal Father  
This is Father, the Universal Father.

Elise  
Oh, welcome Father. Please go ahead.

Universal Father  
Yes, I'm Father. I greet you, My children. I bring you my blessing, and may you speak My name. You are living in a time of tremendous tension around the world and We know that you are missing your almost daily transmissions you were used to receive, but no other whom you receive your teachings or information from your world is so stubborn as stays in its unbalanced situation of misunderstanding each other and suffering the consequences. Whereas it could make living meaningful and joyful instead of harming one another. This world population still has a long way to go before it understands that peace can only come to the world, to your world if everyone, indeed, all on your planet, long for peace and work for it. There must be a general and deep desire to make peace.

Yes, the people themselves must have the will to make peace, you and all people, one by one, must make your own peace, which will then come to the world when people learn to love and to work collectively in achieving their goal, to achieve peace, and it must come from the people themselves. Peace is not a divine gift, it is something you have to create and work for because otherwise it would not be acquired and not made it your own. It is man, it is the people, collectively, all who inhabit the planet who decide whether you are living under peace or keep fighting and keep destroying. It is the people themselves, indeed, one by one, who decide whether to turn to their Creator or stay away from Me and deny My existence and try to prove that they are the kings who rule the nations.

You all know by now that this world lacks understanding of her spiritual origin and everything that is manifested for you on your world here and beyond, this is primarily due to a great lack of spiritual education, which is so necessary for each planet to be able to evolve and to trust and believe in Me, your Father, Who cares and upholds all of creation, and Who gave you the attributes and the restoration characteristics to reason, to think, and to come to believe and trust in Me. You have learned about great revelations. Great revelations have been brought to you, but those never had the full opportunity to work for this planet, to the extent that you have been able to form and build your society in accordance with the grace and intentions coming With it, the important meaning and necessity.

Elise  
Pardon me. I think it was necessity. I don't know if I heard this word correctly.

Universal Father  
of those wonderful revelations were interrupted or not fully understood and much of what was brought to you has been forgotten or just put aside. But here I am, your Universal Father. I love you, and I can assure you, this world has My love to create a beautiful world for all. A world that you are able to develop for you and with you, and to grow a soul so strong that is ready to enter the morontial worlds easily and quickly and to benefit from what you learned in your previous existence.

Continue to listen to your Thought Adjuster, Who is from Me, and is Me, Who lives within each of you, and Who will let you know what is important in a short time that you live your human life. Your Adjuster is your guide, and it is important that you become familiar with how you can draw closer to Me. I am your Father Who awaits you, after your long traveling through the spheres from sphere to sphere and learning your lessons to reach me and to approach me. I am your Father, your Universal Father, and I decided that all my children return to me from where I send you on your eternal journey and that you come to know me in the universes that I have created for you.

My creation is made to share with everyone, and everyone can find and meet me there. Continue to seek the truth in all that is revealed about the Creator and His universe, and you will reach Me and be with Me forever in My loving peace. Work for that desired peace in your lives and for world peace, try to strive, try to work for it as best you can, because only when every man and every woman in this world desires peace and dedicates themselves to achieving peace, only then will peace come within reach, and then everyone will feel it. Everyone will feel peace, and everyone will be in peace and to help accomplishing peace by all who join forces, by all who want to work for it together. This is your Father, your Universal Father. I love you all. I leave you with my blessings, My dear children.

Elise  
Thank you, Father, thank you for speaking to us. This is Elise, and I will see if there is something else for us today, if we have more speakers.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Yes, you have Elise, This is Machiventa Melchizedek.

Elise  
Welcome. Machiventa. Welcome to our Lightline.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you, Elise, and greetings to everyone. I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and I would like to talk a little bit about something your host Elise has been thinking about lately, and it is about the Federation. The Federation you all know about the Federation between certain local universes that have been created and established and which you have all heard about and hoped to hear more about in the future. But some time ago you were told that the Federation had been disbanded, and this message went out and shocked Ron and the listeners at that time and yet, that message was true, and Ron delivered it with all honesty, as always in his transmissions, this Federation between a group of local universes has not been permanently disbanded, but it has been suspended for an unknown time to see where it can best serve and be used as a unified cooperative body between local universes, for reasons not yet known to us and which will be decreed by the Universal Father.

As you know, each local universe is ruled by its own Creator Son. And although all Creator Sons are from the same source, the Universal Father and the eternal Son, they are all very different, just as you humans are all different from each other in appearance, in character, and divine qualities. All Creator Sons are of the same origin, but they all came into being and come into being after the First Sources and Centers arrived at a first and completely supreme Divine thought that is caused solely by their ability to unite their divine minds in the realization of a new being, representing a Creator Son with all the privileges and divine attributes of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son combined into one with the purpose of creating an individual of the Michael order of Sons, a very high rank of divine sons with the characteristic attributes of both the existential deities together.

The Sons were created specifically to create universes for themselves after a long period of training on The Paradise sphere called Sonarington and they will become the sovereign rulers of their own universes, which they are expected to bring into Light and Life, as many other Creative Sons have done before them and will do after them, still giving their universes their love and attention. The local universes are created according to the ideas and ideals of the Creator Sons and just as all Creator Sons are different from each other, their universes are also different from each other and will evolve from there depending on the decisions of each Creator Son as how to perform such a mighty task, always bound to the course of evolution, inherent in their creation. But each Creator Son is equipped with all the prerogatives he needs to fulfill this task, and each Creator Son is deity in his own universe, and knows exactly what to do in every circumstance, and does not need any help or assistance from another local universe, because they are so high in the rank of deity, they foresee in everything, and they each have their own vision to bring their special creation to fruition.

So each Creator Son has the power and ability to do whatever needs to be done for his universe, and they all make their decisions in accordance with the Universal Father to whom they have pledged their eternal allegiance, which has never been broken by any Creator Son in the Grand Universe, where local universes are still emerging. The Federation was created for cooperation between a number of local universes as a group of united universes to be fortified against any attack but proved to be not necessary for this time in evolution. However, the idea of a dominion will not be discarded, as there will be something in the future that calls for a federated universe, and the dominion is a good example to see what it can be and where it can be for and for what will play out in the future when new and young local universes are created with a new purpose and a new kind of life on it.

But right now, the dominion lies dormant until it will, if ever, be used again as a unified universe idea to serve any special use that the Universal Father has in mind. When and where all this will become reality we do not know. These ideals belong to the First Source and Center and His plan for His creation and even the Creator Sons do not know the plans of the Father, as you can easily understand. Well, this is Machiventa Melchizedek, and I hope you have enjoyed this little talk. I'm here on behalf of your Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon, and I thank you for listening. I'm asking others, invite others to say a few words if you want to add to these transmissions, and if not, Elise, you can close this light line for today.

Lemuel  
Well, hello, Elise,

Elise  
Yes. Lemuel?

Yes, please go ahead.

Lemuel  
Thank you, Elise, I would like to comment on your this transmission from Machiventa Melchizedek about the Federation, or what later became known as the dominion as I understand.

Elise  
Sure.

Lemuel  
Let me adjust my phone a minute, because you come in over a bit too loud. All right, that's fine. Yes, we all were given to understand when was it 2019, since the what happened to the Supreme Being, and even before that, Creator Spirit Nebadonia, and then the need, or the decision was taken it was necessary for a new universe age, and so many other things in recent years. Excuse me for the moment. Elise, excuse me. Where we were, we were receiving messages from Ron on a regular basis. And what I would like to say is that perhaps others of you who are listening have also noted that there is no information. There is no mention of any of this on any of the other websites producing messages from Spirit.

Well, that doesn't mean to say, of course, that what we have learned is not true. My comment is, of course, that we simply do not know. We do not know. We have taken it on as an act of faith that what we have been receiving since 2019 is true because we want it to be true. Of course, we do. But we have no real proof that the Supreme Being is no longer with us, or what has happened to the Creator Spirit Nebadonia, and the need for a new universe age and so many other things over the past, what is it now, six?, five or six years now. We simply do not know. We have received countless messages purporting to be from Spirit through Ron. And as I say, we as a family here on this discussion forum because we want them to be true, we take it as an act of faith that they are true. But the fact remains that we do not know.

The messages that you are receiving on your Lightlines recently, Elise same messages purporting to what will be in the future if man is able to do this, if man is able to do that, etc, etc, etc. And of course, we have listened to these things so many times before. What concerns me, and always has concerned me, is now. What does an individual do now? What do we know really? I only know what I experience for myself, everything else I take with a pinch of salt, but I do and always have kept an open mind, and I will continue to keep an open mind. But I find it, what is the word I want to use? I don't find it really helpful to continue hearing about some type of utopia life in the future when man has learned to do this and when man has achieved this, etc, etc, when we all know the state of the world is now.

I hope this doesn't sound negative or pessimistic, because I am not a negative or pessimistic person. I am realistic, and what concerns me is now, I would just briefly mention that any one of you who is interested to find out what has taken place here in Spain over the past week in Valencia, with a tremendous flooding and loss of life, etc, etc. When everything is taken away from you, what have you got? People look for help outside of themselves. Of course, they do naturally, because they have not been taught to look for help withinside of themselves, and I find it impossible to recognize the situation where it is like talking to children in kindergarten, but sometime in a distant future when they reach Oxford or Cambridge or Yale or Harvard and they are able to study this, that and the other. It just doesn't work. People need to know what they are capable of doing now. But in fact, we know that. Don't really we, you and I here on this forum.

What we have got, and always have had since our infancy, is our beloved indwelling Thought Adjuster and our soul growing within us, hopefully. These are things that we can identify with and and try to come to terms with and to increase our knowledge on a personal level through our own experiences, not in the hope of something wonderful in so many years into the future. We need to know what we can do now and well, whilst I'm talking about this, Elise, I would like to take this opportunity of saying to all of you that I will hold a Lightline on Wednesday if I am able to do so. At the moment, I think I will be able to do so, and I would like very much to hold a light line on this Wednesday. Well, in fact, this is all I really wanted to say, Elise, bearing in mind what you have just received from Machivent Melchizedek and so thank you, Elise, thank you for the opportunity over letting me speak. Thank you.

Elise  
Well, thank you, Lemuel, thank you for your comments. And well, I can only say that I also only know what I experience and what I experience for myself, and what I hear in these Lightlines that I bring to you and well, what we experience now, maybe we may learn differently, and when Lightlines are adjusted again I don't know. I do not know about that, but I encourage you Lemuel to hold a Lightline on Wednesday, and maybe we'll hear stories from a different side or a different view. So please, if you are able to hold a Lightline, please go ahead and let's see what happens.

Well, this is all I have received. And I'm very thankful that we got some words from the celestial side. And I do want to thank Michael of Nebadon for that, our Universal Father, and of course, Machiventa Melchizedek, who is always here to help me out, even in my personal life. Many times, he has helped me out in my in difficult times. So I'm very grateful to Machiventa Melchizedek and I want to thank all these listeners again today. I thank you for joining this Lightline, and just hope that you're taking it as I hear it today, as speaking to you under the guidance of our Celestial and Divine friends and I thank you for listening, so I will stop the recording if I can, let me see.

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General Discussion / ChatGPT (AI)
« Last post by dreamcat01 on November 05, 2024, 12:59:58 pm »
In reading everyone's posts about AI and it's ongoing rise, I remind everybody of the old computer programmers' statement of GIGO. Garbage In, Garbage Out. 

AI is a computer programming development, and it's great, at times. It's able to gather and interpret large amounts of date in the blink of an eye (most of the time). However, all data is not always quality data. It is merely...data. 

What needs to happen for all of us, the users of AI, is the setting of standards regarding what is collected, it's actual value and it's truthfulness or correctness (scientifically). Is it giving answers based on actual proven to be truthful facts? Until these standards are agreed upon, implemented and universally accepted, it's the Wild West of computer technology. 

Will it be great in the future? Yes, I do think it will change the world of information gathering and distribution which will change our world. It will touch everyones life in many ways and much of it will be good.

However, we all must remain aware it is fallible in its present state. And, it can be manipulated to serve nefarious interests, both secular and spiritual. Caution should be the word of the day when using AI in our day to day lives. 
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