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CONSUMMATOR OF UNIVERSE DESTINY
« on: December 02, 2020, 01:36:28 am »
Speaker: CONSUMMATOR OF UNIVERSE DESTINY
T/R: Lemuel
Place: Girona, Catalunya, Spain.
2nd Dec. 2020  07:28 Local 06:28 Z

As always, it is an act of faith for those of us who open ourselves up to receive
and transmit messages from Spirit.
It is, with such faith, that I post this after being told to do so.

Lemuel



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« Last Edit: December 02, 2020, 08:21:52 am by Ron Besser »

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Re: CONSUMMATOR OF UNIVERSE DESTINY
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2020, 02:16:44 am »
Sorry for the spelling error.

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« Last Edit: December 02, 2020, 08:23:09 am by Ron Besser »

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Re: CONSUMMATOR OF UNIVERSE DESTINY
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2020, 06:57:10 am »
Transcribed from Lemuel’s audio transmission
 


CONSUMATOR OF UNIVERSE DESTINY

Lemuel : Good morning everyone.
 
Consumator of Universe Destiny : I am the Consumator of Universe Destiny Number One and I am the Consumator of Universe Destiny Number Four and I am the Consumator of Universe Destiny Number Six. At this moment Lemuel is over-awed that we are speaking through him this morning, let it be. WE want you to understand one simple thing that WE know you can understand and that is to say in a similar way the TRINITY can act as a TRINITY, but also each Deity Absolute of the TRINITY can act individually.
 
When I act as Consumator of Universe Destiny Number One, I am your UNIVERSAL FATHER, when I act as Consumator of Universe Destiny Number Six, I am also your UNIVERSAL FATHER. When I act as Consumator of Universe Destiny Number Four, I am also your UNIVERSAL FATHER. But you must understand that twelve of US and WE are twelve Consummators of Universe  Destiny, WE are twelve, WE act individually, WE act collectively.
 
You cannot understand, you cannot comprehend, but what you can understand and this is why WE are talking through this one, Our individuality is one thing and the collectivity is something totally different. You, yourselves, on a normal human-being level, you can act individually as you are alone, also you can integrate and behave as you would normally within your own family relationship. The relationships you have with the husband or wife is slightly different to the relationships you have when you are alone, this you can understand.
 
A football player can play football on his own and if he can demonstrate technics on his own, he can enjoy his own company playing the football, but also of course he is a part of a team, a very important part of a team. In a similar way, the Consumators of Universe Destiny, WE can work as a Team or WE can work individually, WE can work as a Pair, WE can work as a Triplet, WE can work as a Quadriplet. Our work, to use that word, is unimaginable for you, but suffice it to say that everything that exist, materially, non materially, in time or out of time, within Infinity or out of Infinity, WE are beyond and above all that.
 
So, your ability to understand these things is extremely limited. Accept the fact that My words are true and that although your understanding is so minute, nevertheless we care sufficiently from our level of existence to your level, way way down there, your experiential level, we are aware of you all. With these few words, I thank you for listening, I bid you all a good day and I trust that this one, Lemuel, can relax and put this transmission up on the serara discussion forum. Good day.
 
Lemuel : Well, I will put this up and I also bid you all a very good-day.
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Re: CONSUMMATOR OF UNIVERSE DESTINY
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2020, 08:08:17 am »
OK, très bien.  J'aimerais connaître les fonctions des Consommateurs en équipe,  et individuellement,  pour les humains et pour l'Univers. Merci.
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Re: CONSUMMATOR OF UNIVERSE DESTINY
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2020, 09:06:36 am »
Lemuel, I bravely moved to correct the word spelling in your title of the thread to the correct ending.  You living in Spain naturally use the DOR ending on masculine gender nouns.  It is an English equivalent to use the TOR ending for that which the Spanish language uses the ending you did.  You are such a practiced speaker of your adopted community in Spain it is quite a natural way to hear the ending as you first used it.   However, since the Urantia Book uses the "TOR" ending I corrected your thread title to read it that way too.

Now that said, I wish to comment by the Universal Father on your transmission of this unusual subject.  I dearly love to hear as much as I can gather from transmissions from these--  what shall we call them?   Entities?   I do love  to hear anything from them and about them as my imagination really gets fired up by the concept they are as living forces.   The Father says to me this morning:

"We are glad to have Lemuel approach these entities, but he must learn that the deference he feels gets in the way of his choice of vocabulary.  You Ron are so sensitive to language usages you hear the slightest nuance and make amends for usages that were not intended.

"For instance you are fully correct to point out in the Romance Languages, the endings are meant to convey the same thing to the mind and different cultures use sound differently.  But in this case the TOR ending on Consummator is not as you suggest, but as a sound that conveys "nuance beyond infinite recognition."   Let me explain:

"The desire to know this information is inherent in you.  But the desire to know this information is alien to Lemuel, and as a result he fights to keep it on a level he can comprehend and did so in this particular transmission.  That is the problem with individual human minds; they are not easily comprehended even by Deity, and are sometimes so lost in subconscious desires to avoid the use of certain concepts,  they fail to gather  the entire meaning even in a direct transmission like this one was.  Lemuel will never comprehend what you easily do Ron, and that infuriates him when he cannot hear what you hear.  SO:   Finally we gave him what you hear for him to hear and it almost frightened him to take it on.  Why?  We do not  fully understand such a mind either, but he must learn gravitas to obtain levels of perfection he feels, right now, as unimportant.

"You call it pigeon holing, and that means, making strict categorizations of subjects that are off limits or on limits to learn.  HE is pigeon holing the entire spectrum of Infinity as unknowable--  which it is--  but you Ron insist that elements of Infinity are knowable at least as to how it works.  That is true, but even religions, as Christianity in particular does, puts most technical issues of Deity aside in favor of  blissful ignorance.  That is, indeed, Lemuel, and for that reason he may partake of the Consummators of Universe Destiny, but not easily.  You on the other hand are a natural Consummator watcher and you are never going to be without that connection again.  I love being able to share the deep secrets of our existence where I can, and I hold nothing back from the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit as the Conjoint Actor, but even the Master Spirits cannot fully come to grips with the future work of the Deity Absolute.  That Deity Absolute is a fragment of God you never think of as part of me, yet it is as you contemplate it for your own information, yet you never speak to it as you do here for reasons you do not want to disturb the calm waters of Infinite by over examining the Absolutes themselves. 

"For that reason Ron, stand back now and then and let people pontificate over these things without fully realizing your work is so specialized I wonder if we have a place for you, bu then I see how you handle LIGHTLINE so well and so easily, I know we can use you anywhere.  The truth is we have interlopers all the time at your side as you provide ignorance a chance to see LIGHT they do not otherwise see, and for that reason you gather the sheaves well around you without upsetting them as they used to get for your abilities to work with ME in all circumstances.  In this case we are looking at the Consummators of Universe Destiny, as a subject, and not as a philosophy and for that reason you do so very well. 

"Lemuel is of a different order of brain function, and while it is superior in matters of elucidating profound issues of State, it cannot fathom the profound issues of God as you attempt to do and do very well.  The book ORIGINS is an example so rare I still think of you and Rayson as one as you were from time to timer and he makes it clear you are an excellent particle physicist and you are finding it fascinating even more to use the particle stories told to you years ago and still resident on your computer as viable still and helpful to understand the entire subject.  Rayson slaved to give you that table but then forbid you to publish it.  Now he wishes you had published it for now it is dated and needs revisions galore and we keep it hidden now for good.  For that reason the Consummator of Universe Destiny number four and number seven ask you to destroy it when you can get to it.  Be assured it matters very little to us but there are some big errors in it we rather not see get out.

"Finally, Lemuel is to be cheered by the fact that the Consummator of Universe Destiny number ten is like him.   For some reason Lemuel has no real issue other than to be entirely at odds over the idea that Infinity can be broached at all, and for that reason is very difficult to teach certain concepts you take on easily.  Our work is universal, and to be a Universal Censor requires decades of millennia to conqueror, and you have started so well Ron we keep you in mind for the Trinitized group who love this work beyond all measure, but you need to finish a morontial career already decades old for you and for some others on this discussion forum already.  They who stick with you are ready for Jesus.  No one else is, and believe me would you gloat if he arrived today.  But you will be saved that difficulty because HE is held back slightly only and beyond your time on Urantia not, but through a different mechanism we can employ just for circumstances Urantia is undergoing right now.  Be of good cheer Ron!  Lemuel will make it, as they all will, but they take flight in different directions from you and your friend Gary who still ponders you as the most amazing friend he ever had including a wife who adored him as you did but found it boring to live with a pedestal. 

"I conclude that you are facing life again Ron in an ugly mood, and this is Orion, the Finaliter without a cause right now, as you are moving so fast in thought these days you carry no moss.  You say I did not check your north side, but anyway,, stand back for a momentary discussion with you alone and I make this clear to the the discussion form that much is to be cleared out of your names soon, and that is because the entire matter of the 1st Epochal Revelation, is now so heated up on high, Ron will have it shortly to do with it as he wises.  The Consummator of Universe Destiny Number Four and Number Seven and Number Nine are at your service too.  I am Orion and conclude this for the FATHER:

"WE are prepared now to provide you all a new chance to listen to epochal revelation through other transmitters other than LIGHTLINE schedules, but Ron you are not the only one who will rock Urantia with these calls.  We now are sure you have a few hosts ready to claim leadership in this are too called the Forum which you will use exclusively as a new subject to materialize shortly when you open the 1st epochal revelation to the world on an international web site for all who can hear the English version.  It will be spectacular for its easy use of the English language and for your humor you love to use when people get upset or rowdy because they know you are jokin gand calm down.  Leave all alone for now and wait for the impress of the Advent Publishing to appeal to you as a mere spray of light as you saw in your imagination looking at it.  Leave copyright alone and let others figure out how you do things so well they dare not copy for fear of being struck by lightning.  K"

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Re: CONSUMMATOR OF UNIVERSE DESTINY
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2020, 01:16:36 pm »
Thank you Lemuel that gives me a better understanding of my question on Tuesday's LL USA. Thank you Ron for clearing things up as i see it. I understand things better when I take them home and reread them. I haven't made it home yet but I see the value of what's being said. Thank you again.

Domtia

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