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THE SPANISH LANGUAGE LIGHTLINE FOR ALL / Re: "THOUGHTS ADJUSTERS"

« on: April 15, 2024, 02:58:42 am »

Thank you Rene for posting.

5.  V. Personality Realities

0.5.10  4. Soul. The Soul of man is an experiential acquisition. As a mortal creature chooses to “do the will of the Father in heaven,” so the indwelling spirit becomes the father of a new reality in human experience. The mortal and material mind is the mother of this same emerging reality. The substance of this new reality is neither material nor spiritual - it is morontia. This is the emerging and immortal Soul which is destined to survive mortal death and begin the Paradise ascension.

Love and Blessings,

Moses

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Announcement of Great Value to Read from MIchael of Nebadon

« on: April 12, 2024, 01:09:27 am »

Dear all,

This term “Magisterial Sons and Daughters“ actually caught my attention as well. 
I have never heard Magisterial Daughters mentioned before. I am as curious as many others are. 
We would appreciate some clarification here. Thank you.


Love and Blessings,
Moses

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: LLUSA WEDNESDAY 10 APRIL 2024

« on: April 11, 2024, 08:52:15 am »

1.    041024 Audio Tape Wednesday Light Line USA; host: Lemuel

2.    Subjects: -Human participation in the missions is put off until Michael decides what to do with Urantia; -Future of the discussion forum in question; -No chance of success of a Magisterial mission under present conditions on Urantia; -Michael to put in place plan B of the missions; -the seventh bestowal experience of Michael as Jesus on Urantia has never been recounted fully; -the disappearance of the supreme is a tremendous lesson to the whole of the Master Universe; -Michael urges members not to throw in the towel as they are very precious; -Future news to come through the Sunday lightline only; -The other Lightlines to continue normally whenever possible; -New transmitters needed.

3.    Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Machiventa Melchizedek

4.    Transcribed By: Moses Ouko

5.    Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240410_110217


Lemuel
Hello and good evening, good afternoon to those of you who have joined this quite unexpected lightline this Wednesday, the 10th of April, 2024. We are just seven at the moment. Myself, Ron, Jose Vargas, Salvador, Robert from New York, George Meyer and Charlotte from Alabama. Let us see who we have here to address us this Wednesday, lightline. Excuse me.

Michael of Nebadon
Yes, this is Michael of Nebadon, Lemuel.

Lemuel
Thank you, Michael. So please go ahead when you're ready.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you, Lemuel.
This is Michael of Nebadon. And I have mixed feelings, not about what I have to say, but about the fact that you, when I say you, I am referring to all of you, those of you who have been so loyal and did in your trust for the lightlines and for the upcoming missions that you were to participate.

Well, I am sad to say that that is no longer the case. This is why I have mixed feelings. I feel for you, for every one of you. But in any case, I want you all to know your loyalty, your care, your concern, your prayers have been and are extremely grateful for all of them. Greatly appreciated. You have a saying; the writing is on the wall. You all know what that means. It is an advice, a warning. Well, this warning has been written on the wall for quite some time. And I am sure you are all aware of it. There is no point in beating about the bush any longer. The fact of the matter is, it hasn't been a complete waste of time. No, it has not. But it must be said that the result is almost zero. That is to say, from my perspective, from my point of view, with all that I can see and all that I feel and all that I know, the sum result is almost zero. Except to say, and this is important for all of you to hear, except to say, all of you have come a tremendous way. You have learnt so many things. Your faith has grown in leaps and bounds. It is not easy to become an Agondonter.  Truly, really, to believe and to trust in our faith without seeing. You are all to be commended. Your contribution has not gone unnoticed. The truth is, we cannot do what we wanted to do and in the way we had planned for. Although, as you are fully aware, the plans, many times, were off the table and then on the table, off the table, on the table, and those that finally remained on the table needed tweaking regularly, a little bit here, a little bit there, but in fact, we have reached the point now that there is no more tweaking to be done. It simply is not worth it.

As you all know, it would have been a first for human participation in a magisterial mission. At the beginning, it was totally unexpected, but way back in the 90s, at the beginning of the first teaching mission, the possibility was there. There were transmitters who were transmitting perfectly well. But it didn't and in a way couldn't last for all sorts of reasons. And then come in more up-to-date, The light lines and what Ron has put into place, the magisterial foundation, so much work, so much preparation, so much planning for the good of all. Not least of which, of course, WTP. I have made the decision, the light lines, permanently, as you have come to understand the light lines as they have been, because the sum total is precious little use. That may sound harsh to your words. It's not meant to be harsh. It is simply the truth. And sometimes, yes, the truth can be harsh. But this in no way should be interpreted as a reflection on your poor participation or in any way human fault. That is not and has not been the case. I will continue using Ron Besser, on a Sunday, for as long as he remains alive, and you all know that he can go at any moment, and the truth of the matter is, Lemuel is in the same boat.

You have known for some time that the future of the discussion forum was under a magnifying glass, so to speak. Because of such short or little participation. But I understand there are reasons for that. It is not easy to discuss something that keeps changing as often as the wind changes direction. I understand that.

You will be informed, in fact, if the light line, I'm sorry. If the discussion forum is taken down and whether or not it is worth setting up a new one. We shall see. In fact, some kind or some type of discussion forum is necessary as long as there will be a Sunday light line to report and for you to listen to the tape. So, we shall see about that. You will be informed. Yes, I know. I know I can feel what Lemuel is feeling and I know and I can feel what you are all feeling and thinking. It is disappointment yes of course it is disappointment. Well, more than that it is a shame, it is a shame that nothing can be done as long as the people on this planet behave in such a way. The atrocities that are committed every second in some place throughout the world not only is it an abomination, there are hardly no words to describe this.

What chance is there of a magisterial mission having any chance of success under the present conditions? Well, the short answer is of course None. No chance. I will not put any of my sons in danger. No way and so yes, I can see a question arising in Lemuel's mind because he is military and I know what he is thinking and yes, we could come with all the force that I have at my disposal and sort out the problems but at the same time that would create many problems.

I and those with me must now find another way. So yes there is plan B. It is such a disappointment that plan A which included human participation cannot now take place. Something I want you to consider not already considered it, you are fully aware of the uniqueness of Urantia. All the problems that it has suffered ever since the rebellion. The quarantine, no contact from Paradise. No spiritual input for so many, many years and yet I Michael of Nebadon chose this planet for my seventh and final bestowal. To live and experience what life is like as a human through Jesus. The whole of that experience has not and cannot yet be recounted. In other words, nobody knows from A to Z what took place during my seventh bestowal as Jesus. At this moment I do not know if it will ever be told. It certainly needs to be told for countless future generations as it is the history of the Lucifer Rebellion. Has been and is continuing to be studied by so many other universes knowing what took place here because of the uniqueness of Urantia. Urantia is and always has been a school of hard knocks. for that very reason that is to say as a result of the Lucifer Rebellion.

And as you know more recently the disappearing of the supreme. This is another story that has not been fully told but it must be and one day it shall be because this in and of itself the disappearance of the supreme is a tremendous lesson to learn for the whole and throughout the whole of the Master Universe. Deity, real Deity, 100% existential Deity must remain existential only. We are still experiencing the birth pangs of the new Universe Age. So many things. So many changes and yet so many new things have been found to be necessary and the changes have been put into place. And that is something ongoing and it will continue for millennia to come.

I am coming to a close in what I wanted to dictate through Lemuel. What I do not want or what I hope I will not see, is that you individually or collectively decide to throw in the towel and try to pretend that the previous 10 years or 15 years or whatever it is, has been a total and a waste of time because that is not the case. You are not the best of your own existence. Of your own progress. Your ego may try to tell you something else. Your egos know nothing of what is truth, about your spiritual advancement. I will repeat what has been said several times. It is amazing that here on Urantia, there have come to be people as yourselves bearing in mind all of the past and yet here you are. Very few in number. This is true but very precious.

My final words to all of you are, please remember why you have been brought to this point to this very moment in your lives. because your thought adjusters have brought you here and he wants you to be here and you have cooperated with him throughout so many years of your lives. it is a tremendous achievement for all of you and a tremendous success for your thought adjusters. They are greatly experienced thought adjusters. They have all had so many previous wards that could not continue. you indeed are small in numbers but very precious. Remember that. I thank you all again once more for your participation, for your loyalty, for your caring, for your prayers, thank you. And for future news look to the Sunday Lightline only with Ron Besser and I will continue to speak through Ron for as long as he is able. and so, with those few words I say once again thank you and I bid you all a very good day. thank you, Lemuel. Thank you.

Lemuel
Oh Michael. Michael thank you so much. Thank you. Just give me a moment please. Need to be quiet for a moment. Well, I'm going to take a little sip. Thank you. Well, what can I say. I'm sure you all must be thinking more or less the same things that I'm thinking and feeling at this moment and yet I can say for myself, cannot speak for any of you of course I can say for myself from my heart it has been a privilege and an honour being a part in the light lines and to share the space that we have together as a little family. To get to know each other to at least some degree and to appreciate the mutual problems that we all have to face on a daily basis. Especially us oldies. Nevertheless, I myself feel it was a great privilege and an honour to be able to serve in such a small way. All right.  Well Ron if you don't mind, I'm going to come to you now and to see if you have something that you wish to say. I will unmute you now Ron. just give me a moment.

Ron
All right. Thank you.

Lemuel
You're unmuted Ron.

Ron
Thank you, Lemuel. can you hear me?

Lemuel
Yes, I hear you fine Ron. Please go ahead if you can

Ron
All right. thank you, Michael, thank you Gabriel, thank you Universe for the opportunity to speak. I want it to be known that the last few days I've been barely able even to sit up without falling into a deep sleep. I don't know what that means but probably a conclusion to my life. I don't say that easily or simply but I've had the privilege of serving Michael, the Universe, and our Father for a number of years now and it is coming to a close. I am preferably not dying but that is entirely up to the Universe to determine what I do. To Dominick, please come over, there are some things I need to finish. Number two, I’ve got to speak to Kalk, one way or another. That is one of the things I must discuss with you when you come over Dominick.

Michael of Nebadon
And number three, please let it be known that Michael of Nebadon is in the room with Ron.

Ron
Well, thank you Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
You're welcome, Ron.

Ron
And now this; I am speaking more or less as the Universe robber of things that I thought I could do and have discovered that I can't move. Michael of Nebadon is going to make possible to do the electricity. I don't know how he's going to do it we have zero interest but the second thing involved is that Michael of Nebadon is furious with all who have participated and have not done anything to promote what can be done. That is not you ladies and gentlemen that is the world. And finally this; before Michael goes.

Michael of Nebadon
I have this to say to all of you I am Michael, please understand that the light line will go and that is it will continue on Sunday at least. Lemuel is too ill to continue every time but we are asking you Lemuel to participate when you can. Let Ron know. Number two; I Michael of Nebadon am insisting that Ron stay the course for months ahead if I need him. he is not unhappy just sleepy and ill, but that can be corrected easily. Number three or four let's call it four;   I happen to believe that the entire matter of light line, the listeners, the doers, and those who would like to hear but cannot get in, are done for now. Ron will do the light lines for Sunday and will work the light lines for Wednesday until a replacement for Lemuel, if necessary is found. Elise, on Monday is happy to continue. We expect her, Elise to continue Monday. We expect the Sunday light lines to continue with Ron. We do not know about Dominick and Tuesday. But Wednesday is done unless you Lemuel, feel you can do it and then do it. There are no other light lines scheduled. Renee and Clency may do their light lines and work it as they please. You are on when you are ready to speak. I do not mean to truncate you. And finally, this, we have 15 on the call today. I see your names, your telephone numbers, and that you have logged in at a particular time. We are going to continue the Sunday light lines. We are going to continue any light line during the week, weekend. Dominick is asked to stand down. Elise is asked to continue with Monday. Ron is to continue with Sunday. in so far as I know except when Lemuel can do it, the light lines are done, for now. And now Ron I leave and you will not fall asleep.

Ron
That is excellent Michael and I thank you for your attendance.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you. I will Not leave you Ron but listen to this before I leave. The Sunday light line is still the most important. Monday with Elise, Tuesday with Dominick, Wednesday with Lemuel will continue if you can, don't put it off if you can. It's too important. And finally, this for you Ron you are circumspect at best. You make no mention of the magisterial foundation in any of this because you leave it to me to make it work. I am now going to make it work permanently and truly for the considerable time between now and the future, when a mission will be sent to Urantia and that you will all participate. You are not taken off you, but you have to wait until I reconsider what to do with Urantia. And finally, this to you Lemuel, I'm giving this back to you shortly but Machiventa Melchizedek wishes to speak next. Thank you, Ron.

Ron
Well, thank you Michael and this is not over.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Machiventa Melchizedek now speaks. I am Fully disarranged. I did not Expect Michael to say goodbye even to Ron but I see he has not. The truth of the matter is; you all could participate but do not. Only Gitz, is unavailable because of the design of his mind. The rest of you can transmit. I want a transmitter for every day of the week if I can get them. Please sign up with Ron. if I do not hear from anybody by next Sunday and I don't mean this one but I mean the Sunday afterwards, I will truncate further. For now we have Monday light line with Elise, to continue. Tuesday with Dominick, to continue. Wednesday with Lemuel, to continue if he can. Thursday, Friday and Saturday are open days for other transmitters to transmit if they want to. We hope you do. Sunday is for sure with Ron. Now I turn to you Machiventa for an itinerary of what you expect. Thank you

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael of Nebadon and Machiventa has chosen to be silent. You’re going have to speak it, Ron. This is Michael of Nebadon. Number one; no further light lines are planned except for Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday is optional for Lemuel as he can do it. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, is open for new transmitters. If you can transmit sign up with Ron. He'll be glad to do it for you. The next item number two; I am fully sure that Ron, Lemuel, Dominick, Elise and Rene and Clency, are with us yet but there is illness upon the transmitters. Ron could barely get awake to do it today. He is expecting that you Dominick will be here this afternoon. It's important. The next item three or four I'm not sure; the truth of the advertisement is that the magisterial foundation still contains the bulk of the revelation of how to do WTP. Simple electricity broadcast rather than over wires. He will continue to put all emphasis on WTP and we demand that it be accepted. There are plans afoot between Dominick and Ron and a gentleman engineer called Kalk that must go through Dominick. And finally, this, I am not going to feature myself a lot except through Ron. The other light lines, Elise, Lemuel, Dominick, Clency, Rene, are expected to perform, please. The usual contact between Urantia and the universe is no longer in effect. I'm pulling it down. Those transmitters in the West will receive their final warning. Let yourself be open, Ron.

Ron
I'm glad to. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon
And finally, this, I am Michael of Nebadon. I have spoken the sadness of my feelings for what has happened. The Urantia Foundation has been no help. The Urantia other one, the brotherhood one time, is no longer operational fully. They have financial problems and cannot keep it going. And finally, to you, Ron, you always have financial problems. The donations of the board and those outside of the board, especially Weydevu and Carol Deptula, are deeply appreciated. Please keep them coming if you can. If not, we will take it out of our own pocket.


Ron
And finally, this, I am, and this is Ron Besser speaking, going to turn this back over to Lemuel so he can speak Machiventa Melchizedek because Machiventa Melchizedek is not happy with me. Lemuel, I'm now turning this back to you. Machiventa should be on the line for you. Go ahead.

Lemuel
All right. Thank you, Ron. Yes, Ron.

Machiventa Melchizedek.
Thank you, Lemuel.

Lemuel
Yes.

Machiventa Melchizedek.
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. I'm not going to make any further comment. But I will say a few things now through Lemuel. First of all, to thank you sincerely, Lemuel, for the way you have received the dictation from Michael of Nebadon earlier on. I personally found it quite moving myself. And what you spoke to was true. And the way you spoke was sincere and I thank you for that. For the rest, let it be known or just to remind you all that myself, as the governor of the Planet Urantia, and the whole of my movement of Melchizedeks, will remain of course at the service of Michael of Nebadon and of other celestial forces that need that which we can provide. I will not because I cannot at the moment go into any kind of detail as to what will now take place as far as we are concerned, Melchizedeks. that really depends now on the future plan that at this very moment Michael of Nebadon is looking into what can be done given the present global situation. So, I can only ask you to remain alert, please don't think that everything is just off and nothing is going to happen ever again because not the case. remain alert, remain up to date with the news but keep your own counsel. and yes, take place, take part, continue to take part in the light lines when they continue, as they continue, hopefully as is still planned. And as far as I am concerned Michael of I'm sorry Machiventa Melchizedek yes, Lemuel Machiventa Melchizedek I am here and I hope always to be here for light lines. And that's all I have to say for the time being. So, thank you, Lemuel for picking me up.

Lemuel
Well, thank you Machiventa Melchizedek, thank you. It was reassuring thank you. Well, everybody we are just five minutes away from the hour but I'm going to close it down now and it's been well, yes, an interesting lightline. I'm still feeling a little bit down I suppose I could say as I expect most of you are as well but nevertheless, we will continue as we can. Thank you for those of you who joined and I hope to be well enough to do another light line next Wednesday. I've just been informed this week that I need another operation and I have an interview with a surgeon quite soon. Anyway, so I should be still available to do next Wednesday's light line. I hope so anyway. So, until then thank you all again once more. thank you all so much. and until next week, take care, love one another, try to be happy and good night to all of you or good afternoon wherever you are.

Thank you.


 

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General Discussion / Re: Apocalypse now

« on: April 01, 2024, 02:33:50 am »

Hello Clency,

In one of the Lightlines, it was mentioned that our planet of Urantia has been moved to the Orion Constellation. 
Could this be having the changes in climate and other weather patterns that we are experiencing currently?

I speak from a point of what we have gone through in this part of Urantia namely East Africa-Kenya my country.
Maybe we shall get the appropriate response from upstairs.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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Some Thoughts Muses & Meanderings / Re: I'm still here

« on: August 09, 2023, 04:26:35 am »

Hi Amethyst. It is nice to hear from you.
Wishing you the best in your new residence.
God Bless.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: I AM HERE

« on: November 29, 2022, 02:19:16 am »

Thank you Jesus. Thank you Lemuel.
Good news indeed. God Bless to all.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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OFFERING OF YOUR PRAYERS FOR THE ADVENT OF JESUS AND UNIVERSE WELLBEING / Re: Prayer for better life conditions

« on: November 20, 2022, 09:29:53 am »

Amen!

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Discuss This Web Site / Re: NOTICE: Site Not Opening to Some Members - please read 19 Nov 2022

« on: November 19, 2022, 12:14:47 pm »

Thank you Ron for the info. I have actually been experiencing this challenge
but have learned how to by pass it by going to the advanced options of Google chrome and accessing it from there.
Thank you Charles for your efforts, God Bless.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Parent and Child

« on: November 18, 2022, 03:22:36 am »

Thank you Lemuel and CALUMNIA. I like the way Calumnia teaches. 
The lessons are easily understood with the analogies used. 
Thank you once more. God Bless.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: LET IT GO

« on: November 17, 2022, 01:50:56 am »

Thank you very much Lemuel and Calumnia.


Actually letting go has been one of the hardest things to do at least for me.
But with time you mature and learn, then move on.
I have come to experience a certain kind of freedom after letting go and moving on.
It is not an easy journey especially where fond and beautiful memories are involved.
I guess this is because as humans we are always hopeful that our expectations will be
met and things go back to the way they were or even get better.

Thank you once more. God Bless to all.


Love and Blessings,
Moses

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: AUTHORITY

« on: November 10, 2022, 10:27:28 am »

Thank you Lemuel for posting. 
Thank you CALUMNIA for your great advice. Hopefully we can all  take it and try putting it into practice. 
There is so much at our disposal that we are not aware of most of the time.

SongatSunrise,

I guess you are right because sometimes things go so well and then all of a sudden they go south. 
But we have to keep on keeping on no matter what. Thank you once more Lemuel and CALUMNIA. God Bless to all.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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US PATENT ISSUED TO BROADCAST ELECTRICITY / Re: Trailer and Full Interview of Ron Talking WTP

« on: October 29, 2022, 11:05:20 am »

Congratulations Ron and Dominick for putting this out for the world to see and try to understand. 
Well articulated and very informative on what WTP is all about. Thank you Ron for sharing some of the knowledge that you possess. 
You are very well composed and answered the questions perfectly. Thank you Dominick for compiling this. 
Other than the sound quality which you need to improve on....well-done!

Despite the resistance initially to this technology, it will eventually be accepted and implemented. 
Once again; well done to the both of you. God Bless to all.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: MICHAEL OF NEBADON TO ALL

« on: October 26, 2022, 02:05:10 am »

Thank you Elise.
Thank you Father Michael for your caring and encouraging words. 
May FATHER's Will be done for Urantia and all of creation.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Time Out

« on: October 26, 2022, 01:59:32 am »

Thank you Lemuel and your Thought Adjuster for this advice. 
Well taken indeed. God Bless.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Dance Of The Mind

« on: October 26, 2022, 01:56:12 am »

Thank you Ghost Dancer for this post.
Thank you very much ARTHURA for your words. My prayer is to be able to join this "dance" and waltz away at will.

Thank you once more. 

Love and Blessings,
Moses