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Factors for the Maintenance of Civilization...a, Michael, Monjoronson, Jesus
Machiventa Melchizedek as MC opened with the topic in relation to Planetary Management and Missions; and Michael of Nebadon had final words.
· Reference to Paper 81, Section 6, p. 908 15 Factors Towards Maintenance of Civilization.
· Paper is "Sponsored" by an Archangel (what is the meaning of that?)
· Reference to Paper 37, Section 3, p. 408 for description of Local Universe Archangels (catch the reference about why the planet captures such Universe-wide interest)
Q&A
· Monjoronson answers question about Factor 15, the Prevention of Transitional Breakdown (of Civ)
· Machiventa responds to comment about evolution and current events
· Jesus responded to question, how might we prepare ourselves for his Return
Wed, Aug 15, 2023 York, PA
All right, welcome to Tuesday Lightline everybody, we got two internet callers in between the silencing and the starting of the recording. So welcome internet callers, 9441 and 2545. . . .
. . . So that's the information out of the way.
We now pray to Father for clear and clean circuits of communication. And we ask is there an emcee for today's Lightline?
MACHIVENTA MELCHIZEDEK
Yes, welcome everyone. I'm pouncing right in, this is Machiventa Melchizedek.
Dominick did not expect me to come in this fast. He wasn't sure who is going to answer any call. But there is a topic, today, near and dear to my heart which is the subject of Planetary Management.
Today's Lightline promises to be compact, or we might say, short and sweet. This transmitter is the, you could say, opposite of Ron. In that he is pithy and condensed. The two styles merge well, and they get along quite well in person. But they are not the same person even though they have very similar minds.
We welcome all of you this is Machiventa Melchizedek. And before I begin we welcome Roger Raz to the call, and Carol.
MACHIVENTA continues:
Under Planetary Management means we have introduced topics of working group and we have, in this particular corner of what we call a Forum, introduced the concept of Magisterial Missions introducing a Regency within the Government to perform Planetary Management.
We refer you to the following resources within the Fifth Epochal Revelation, titled, The Urantia Book. Which is simply a resource on the face of things, that by now, should have, could have, would have, reached everyone on the planet to some respect. In that particular case, people at least have access to the resource.
So, considering Planetary Management, we ask you to consider page 908. This would be Section 6 of Paper 81. Where there are fourteen [15 are listed] factors related and outlined to the Maintenance of Civilization.
There is an anomaly, a peculiarity, in that the attribution of this paper is a sponsor. Whereas, typically, you have papers presented by or narrated by, but typically not sponsored by. And it's in this case, sponsored by an Archangel. You can find information about Archangels on page 408, Section 3, Paper 37. There you will also find an interesting blurb on the uniqueness of Urantia as a Bestowal Planet. And why this planet is of such interest beyond the borders, of not just Nebadon, which is the Local Universe, but also beyond the borders of your Superuniverse.
So, you have homework. Enough of listening to the news and reacting to it with a comment or two, hoping for some celestial message in response to the music. You have homework to at least review this Section 6 in Paper 81.
To summarize why this is important heading into the Missions and why it is important or significant that Melchizedeks, together with Archangels, are discussing to you, Planetary Management in the context of Missions. And this is primarily because our two Orders, and our two classifications of Sons and ministering Angels, working on these Missions is that that's what we do. We support these, either an Avonal Son, or whoever is the Bestowal Son.
But to summarize without going into histrionics, you will find within that Paper of 14 factors, that many of those factors run counter to, countercultural, regressive movements masked as progressive. And that these are producing reactionary harms of neo-conservatism.
I will repeat that.
When you read the 14 factors of the maintenance of civilization, you will find that many of these factors, today, run counter to, are countercultural, regressive movements, masked as progressive, which are producing reactionary harms of neoconservatism.
Now, we end that statement.
But when we look at Planetary Management from the angle and Our perspective, we have given you Papers of other planets, and how they go through their evolution similar to your situation. And that exercise seems almost futile today, in light of the combat happening between these countercultural circumstances, happening from what you describe, as Left and Right and Center,
But We have announced these Missions will happen in the US, the United States. This is not because of some one single factor, or righteousness of the people, and governance, and institutions within the United States. But after you read these 14 factors, we ask you to consider the evolution of what happened, and what has happened, within the United States relative to the rest of the world.
Obviously, some of this is geographical, some of it is technological, and some of it is in the roots of spiritual ideals. There are evolutionary justifications on a lot of things, that today, don't get proper credit in the context they ever happened.
So, we have we ask you to use the United States and ask yourself:
when the United States
why the United States
how the United States
and most importantly, what the United States will be used as in the context of Planetary Management.
And with that, we resolve today's opening salvo in what is a controversial topic, not, in the context of Planetary Managers It is not a lecture, it is not a judgment. But you need to get up to speed on what's important to serve these Missions. And detach yourself less and less, and more and more, from the current whirlpools of culture that seek to gain your energy for someone else's agenda.
I pause here this is Machiventa Melchizedek as your MC and opening speaker today. I now introduce our Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon.
Welcome Michael.
Thank you, Dominick. Thank you Machiventa.
MICHAEL of NEBADON
I am Michael of Nebadon I need no introduction to any of you on this call. I speak to each of your hearts. But today we speak mostly to your minds.
To serve the Missions is not a loyalty test to Me or how well you know any given Revelation, or a series of Lightlines to keep up with the latest trends.
The bulk of the lesson that you just heard, I need to reiterate, is that:
our Missions with and by your side, you humans, is for your experiential, evolutionary attainment. Your experiential attainment, not Our fiat fixing of your problems.
We asked you to go back and look at those things simply to have what's called a recalibration, a level-set, some sort of jargon-term to,
re-establish a foundation of some understanding in context of the turmoil your culture of your planet is in.
To say that there are Culture Wars is an understatement. There are entire states and apparatus of government counter to My ways,
counter to My existence,
and they have no place,
other than to be learned from in the history of this planet in the Universe, in Time
There is a time for Love and there is a time for Missions which require Judgment.
Which entails Justice and Mercy mitigated by Paradise Sons.
To that effect, rulings will come down from within and from without the jurisdiction of Nebadon.
My Sovereignty ensures that I can mitigate those judgments, to some respects, to My will, to My purpose and My planning within the confines of the rulings handed down.
There is no need to struggle or be loyal to such rulings. But in the beginning stages to simply adapt; and survive in some cases.
I cannot go into specifics. But you have been generally warned how to properly react to events as they may or may not occur.
But we wish to end this on a positive note, in that, it is all happening for the best interest and the greatest interest of, you as an individual. But all the way up to Planetary Administration. And even systems of organization beyond that, which you are privy to, but others won't . . .
until they understand their place in the universe is not alone.
And in that respect, I give you a metaphor and analogy.
My Coming and Bestowal as Jesus satisfied My Bestowal Mission. It did not entirely satisfy the entire adjudication of the universe rebellion against me, in the form of Lucifer manifesto, and the governments set up, counter to, SALVINGTON, and anything outside of SALVINGTON, such as UVERSA, or PARADISE.
And that since My Jesus Bestowal, the planet has been like an airplane, whose cultural fuel is now on empty. If the plane represented the civilizations, and that plane ran on the fuel called culture, culture has been exhausted.
And we are not left with a cleanup operation, but with a question, open-ended, of,
how do we salvage
what we can,
when we can,
where we can,
so that we don't lose the planet altogether.
And with that, I bid you all, a thoughtful day, a good day. And hopefully, a stimulating day for you to be a future service in the administrative capacity of any Mission, were you to be proffered the opportunity.
Thank you, this is Michael of Nebadon standing back.
And I hand the podium back to you, Machiventa.
Machiventa:
Thank you, Michael, this is Machiventa Melchizedek, your emcee for today's Tuesday Lightline. You're checking in and we have 14 callers attending, and we thank you for your attendance today.
We are 23 minutes in, and as promised, this is a brief Lightline today.
There is an exhausting cadence
and cultural
and even physical
pattern,
sapping our energy. And you need to be aware of how you are spending it. Because you must spend it carefully, now, ever more and more.
And you should also be aware of how you may need others in your life, and in your local vicinity in preparation for what is certainly a-changin times ahead.
At this time, we will open it up to any other transmitters who wish to have a say or two with anyone wishing to use their voice in transmission.
And as we wait for anything to that effect, we also offer Q&A around this topic of the Lightline.
Because we do like to keep the Q&A relatively specific to the Lightline topic at the beginning.
And are always free to ask Me or the emcee, whoever is the emcee, whether you can stray outside of that as well.
Right now, we see no hands raised for either a transmission or a question, until now.
Ron, you're unmuted. Lemuel you are next afterwards.
Ron:
All right,
Machiventa and Michael also referred to paper 81 and the sustainability elements that, that Paper mentions. The final statement in that paper is element number 15, The Prevention of Transitional Breakdown. And they point out that society prefers, almost always, to remain with a traditional means of evolution.
My question really is,
what does the Regency propose to do to prevent transitional breakdown? Because we are highly susceptible to it, in my opinion at the moment.
Go ahead Dominick.
Dominick:
Alright, so the question is, what will the Mission do or what will the Regency do?
Ron:
What will the Regency do to prevent transitional breakdown while they're presenting so much new?
MONJORONSON:
This is Monjoronson (Magisterial Son) to you, Ron Besser, and the group.
We may need the institution of martial law in respect to distribution of resources.
Some of this depends on the emergency at the time.
Now, in My book, I stressed that borders tend to become insignificant in lieu of catastrophes that cross borders, disturb borders, and make jurisdictions meaningless. Martial law is not meant to be draconian like you see in your movies, or in your fears of totalitarian over-control.
But that you see, even today, jurisdictions get in the way of each other.
And short of military or martial corralling of resources, this is the most efficient way to get anything done.
And that is with a huge caveat.
That the best way to get anything done is to prepare yourselves
in a household,
a neighborhood,
in a community.
Outside of that, it will take the marshaling of resources to have the fair distribution of resources.
Now that, I just described in an emergency scenario.
What is ideal, is that we have,
through the Regency,
a clear influence upon policy decisions,
that make it possible to set up these factors,
as we have called it,
of the maintenance of civilization.
What may or may not happen, that we almost have no total control over, is,
to what extent humans,
whether they are in the halls of power or not,
will react and co-operate.
Both in my book and in these 14 or 15 factors of civilization maintenance there is a big stress on co-operation.
Cooperation is an advanced state of the fruits of culture.
When you see there's no ability to cooperate,
and in fact, you've almost given up hope.
That's a sure sign, the cultural coefficient of whatever movement is involved is dragging civilization down and not forward.
To that effect we have hinted a steep curtailment of technology namely, social media, cable television, certainly anything that adds no cultural value of what I've just outlined.
The coefficient of the movement either contributes to progressive culture or regresses the culture.
There really is no in-between until the stasis of Light and Life stage.
Therefore, are you always either progressing or regressing.
The Regency is your assurance. But how it advertises itself is still to be determined.
Certainly, this becomes more and more complex,
the more outright hostilities happen between states and civilizations.
And again, Machiventa has asked you to look at the United States,
not in-light of your current political status quo, of say the Cold War, or World Wars, and -isms.
But that put yourself in Our shoes, and ask yourself:
where else could it be given all of those factors I just learned about?
And one of those clear choices, just to clarify the conflicting drama of the culture between transmitters, is that if you were to seriously ask yourself this question,
try to convince anyone that China is the hope of these missions,
and you have an impossible task.
So, in summary, to answer the question, We are deciding how overt or covert we are to operate.
And depending on the cooperation of the hosting nation, in this case, the United States. The hosting nation of the Regency
Their cooperation will determine how covert and overt it will be along the whole spectrum of policy potentials.
And that we are happy to give credit, where credit is due, when such cooperation is granted.
Does that help Ron?
Ron:
Yes, thank you. That went further than I thought you would. And I appreciate it Monjoronson and Machiventa. And that's all I have at the moment, Dominick. Thank you.
Dominick:
Lemuel, welcome. What do you have for us today? A question transmission, anything?
Lemuel:
Well, no, not a transmission but more of an observation.
One of the things I think, almost in almost ironically,
that perhaps would help the way in which the Regency is pronounced.
Perhaps not the first time or even the second time, depending on where it is. But I'm thinking about the natural catastrophes that may take place. Which will coincide, possibly, with the intention of setting up the Regency and coinciding, possibly with a Michael Mission, and of course, the Second Return.
Well, through my own mind, I think, that I see, something catastrophic would, in fact, help to change the mindset of people around the world.
Knowing full well, that man can do nothing against the forces of nature.
And that if at the same time they begin to see what will be known or described as, perhaps, divine intervention.
I think this will have a beneficial effect on what, hopefully, is to take place, as has just been announced, through Machiventa, and Michael and Monjoronson.
So, what I'm saying briefly, it's not a question, just an observation, that the prevention of breakdown is one thing.
And whether or not martial law will be necessary personally, I think it will, eventually.
And it will be the best thing.
Coupled with that is a natural disaster that may or may not take place at the same time.
Personally, as I just said, if it does, I see it almost ironically as contributing to the success of the other half, so to speak.
Well, I hope I have made my observation clear. And this is all I have to say, Dominick, and thank you for giving me the opportunity. Thank you.
Dominick:
You're welcome. Lemuel.
And there is a there is an answer.
Machiventa:
This is Machiventa Melchizedek in response to your comments, Lemuel.
Thank you, and well-put.
My two cents that you have opened the door to provide, is that I caution you, as with any good student of evolution, caution you -- and I'm speaking to you as a group, not just to you, Lemuel, personally.
But my point is, evolution is often not some gradual thing to sweet-talk you into the change you need that's best for you. It is often an adaptation that is forced.
And you don't need a Regency to force things on you.
What you need is cooperation in the face of these forced changes in your environment that you're facing.
Case in point, you're all hot, the climate is changing. How are we cooperating to face this threat? And is there hope that cooperation can happen?
Now, we've already in some respects answered that question for you in terms of a Mission, proposing to supply the world with a new way of energy provision.
And ask you to compare that proposal versus anything else on the market right now addressing these forced changes upon you.
In which you have faced just the beginning. Since it's now logically apparent that the planet cannot sustain its current population.
And the human tendency to think,
well, I just hope it doesn't come crashing down on my doorstep. I'd much prefer to see it happen and play-out on the news and hope that something or someone comes along to fix it.
But just to conclude the point,
Evolution is never a linear line of progression at a pace that meets human comfort.
And for that reason, your planet, as Michael has talked about, has just about reached the end-of-the-line where it can do anything on its own as a sustaining culture and civilization.
And look at the cultural conflicts today and ask who will be receptive to a Regency?
And whether you should be public advocates of this or not in your own circles of relationships, and politics, and crazy ideas going on around there.
There is no trust in information.
And you could say, and do, and mean, all the right and truthful things,
and still die.
So, we remind you to be careful, until the dust settles.
Thank you again, Lemuel.
Dominick:
All right, Valerie, you're unmuted.
Valerie:
Thank you, Dominick, for taking my question.
Have the Melchizedeks (as an Order), being the emergency Sons, been in a similar situation in the universe prior to this? Considering that we are now dealing with a very unique situation in your in Urantia due to the rebellion. So, I wonder if there ever have been a situation like this before, when they had to bring to existence a new way of governing like the Regency?
And then in regard to that, I also would ask, how can one expect . . . ?
Dominick:
Let me interrupt you there, Valerie, because you pile up the questions, and I have an answer for the first one. That's coming through Machiventa. Can I just stop you there and answer the first question, and then you can do the second one?
Machiventa:
This is Machiventa Valerie, thank you for the question. The simple answer is, We reserve the right, always. We have done this, though not as an Order of Nebadon of Melchizedeks. But there is a history within the Grand Universe of such an occasion.
When we do reveal how, and in what circumstances this is done, be assured it will be in relevant context to what you are going through.
Right now, there is no need to supply specifics, other than to hint that you are correct within your imagination, to envision circumstances where Melchizedeks as an order insert themselves in planetary emergencies.
What is unique to our case, here, is that there is no other circumstance of a Bestowal Planet in this position. Rebellions are rare. Rebellions involving Bestowal Creator Son planets are even rarer.
Alright Valerie, that's
Valerie:
And the next question is how can we expect cooperation with the Regency if the human elements currently on Urantia are full of corruption and darkness of mind?
So, that will take a renewal of mind from bonds who would embrace this change. I do not see would be easy because we have not been able to accomplish to have cooperation from even those who are spiritually supposed to be on the on the leading position.
Monjoronson:
This is Monjoronson to your question, Valerie, and we thank you for your question.
And this is in addition to the previous questions and comments prior. And that is to summarize this question again:
How can cooperation be effective when corruption exists as a cancer or a rot within the foundations of what is being asked to cooperate?
We answered that in combination with a previous question about what might We do to marshal such cooperation?
And certainly, some of the marshaling aspects of military life, is that the Law might be applied in a militaristic fashion, to hold those accountable for their financial transgressions. Which would cause bodily and undue punishment equivalent to the threat of life of others.
There's a gray area there, obviously, when we discuss the quality of life. And less and less a gray area when the acute life-and-death status of individuals is taken into account.
So just to give you one example.
If corruption were to, skim-a-little-off-the-top,
while people were fed,
is that worth their life? Maybe not.
But maybe, yes?
It's in the beginning that such corruption leads to further corruption of life for the population down the road.
And certainly, you are within your means to hold those accountable under martial law to corporal and capital punishment, if they're corruption place harms that are the equivalent of War.
We are not the judge of this, yet. But to handle corruption there may or may not need to be that amount of capital threat to the enforcement of Law.
After that, Mercy and Justice are applied to the rule handed down from the Law.
Does that finish your question, Valerie?
Ya, these are fruitful thoughts, thank you very much for the answer. It's a lot to intake for the future. I have a short question yet. Is the events that are coming up near or soon? Is that a worldwide event? Will it affect everyone? Will they feel it?
Monjoronson:
Well, simply put, we're already in that stage. But you will know it when we have it.
[chuckling]
Dominick:
They're not at liberty project.
Valerie:
Thank you so very much. That's everything I wanted to know. Thank you.
D:
Hi, Carol. I recognize your voice. How are you?
Carol:
Oh, very good. Thank you.
Here's my question it’s kind of basic. And I suppose it's always good to hear that the answer again. In what ways should we be preparing for Jesus’ return?
D:
Well, what do you think?
C:
I was asking you the question?
D:
Yeah, I don't mean to put you on the spot, but you know, that's a very personal question, don't you think?
C:
Not necessarily. I want it to be a question that could be useful for everybody.
D:
Okay.
Let me check in.
I'm going to put you on mute just because you've got some background noise, and then I'll unmute you again. Okay?
C:
Thank you
D:
Okay, the question was, what can we be doing to prepare ourselves for the return of our beloved Jesus?
JESUS
This is Jesus, Carol, and to all of you.
Now you pulled me forward, and I don't regret the opportunity to speak.
But if I knew the answer, I have said it before, and that is to prepare the way in your hearts, that God the Father exists within you.
I am your Shepherd.
And in this respect, I worship the same as you, our Father.
Simply put,
the best way to prepare for My promised return, is to find that relationship, nurture that relationship, and give the fruits of that relationship to your fellows,
even in the smallest of ways.
And you are fulfilling your purpose,
Father's purpose,
and really the essence of My purpose.
Having said that, My Second Coming
will be to help establish Urantia and its sister apostate planets,
back into the fold of the Universe Governance,
that to the young, human perspective,
may not be related to what I just told you, about our Father in Heaven.
But you have the power within you to make heaven on earth.
But it is impossible without it happening within.
And that you, individually, are the foundation,
the rock,
the individual cells of the organism of the Kingdom of Heaven.
And that nothing will sustain itself without all of My brothers and sisters
in the realization, the belief, the experience, whether it be in receipt of service, to understand, that such altruism exists outside of self-interest.
And that spiritual experience is the highest order of living.
I thank you.
And be in My peace.
Thank you, Carol. Good day.
Carol:
Very much, Savior Jesus.
D:
Is there anything else? Carol? I think that’s our end-of-the-Lightline question.
C:
That is all for now. Thank you so much, Dominick.
D:
You're welcome. Thanks for the opportunity, Carol.
Okay, there are no other hands raised. I've muted other internet callers.
If you had a question. I'm sorry that's just the way we've got to speak up when you're unmuted. Otherwise, I don't know you're there.
Thank you all for attending.
And thank you, Michael. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you Machiventa, and Monjoronson, and the rest of the team that made it possible. Thank you. And we all thank you.
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