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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Announcement of Great Value to Read from MIchael of Nebadon
« Last post by Ron Besser on April 12, 2024, 11:21:30 am »
Please stand down for a few moments everyone.

You cannot decide what the changes are until you know what the purpose is.

I am not informed well, but slightly, and they have asked me to state is succinctly  and then let it go.

Yesterday, I entertained an interviewer in my home to discuss the new electric plant.  It was summarily ended at about 3 or 4 PM and the interviewer was to go back home to South Carolina I believe.   Instead, unknown to me, a few hour more to transfer the interview from tape to his broadcast device.  There followed an immense change in his ability to use the equipment and he decided to go home and take care of it there.  He nearly died as a result of working with a tape while driving and he is not in hospital this morning,  The cabal tried to remove the interview and I caution all of you there is one hell of a fight going on over Urantia even now,

Magisterial Daughters was a slip of the tongue of Monjoronson.  He did not mean it, but I personally recall there is a female element to the Magisterial Son with the Sanobim element that serves them when they take a planet on like Urantia.  The Sanobim are the complimentary personnel to the Cherubim, and they are still used in spite of the universe decrying their usefulness had ended.  The Sanobim were customary servants with the Cherubim,  and that is what he accidentally referred to at the time. 

Please use your wits to be very careful now.  It is this:

I have been instructed to stand down by the cabal and then by Michael of Nebadon.  You, unfortunately, are not to be told what is happening precisely but there is big news coming shortly, if we can get it out.  I am not entirely informed yet and I am partial in my care as well, as  I was also informed that the interviewer who was with us yesterday had a small accident and is out of service but the interview is still intact.   I must leave it alone, and frankly, THE SUNDAY LIGHTLINE is on the bloc too.  I will  let all of you known when I do what might be done there too.  Thanks for your question. 

Ron

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Ron is being slight supercilious.

"First of all, let it be known I am no longer on Urantia.  I was yesterday.  The interviewer is a podcast known to many thousands of listeners, and he wanted to share the new idea in power electricity being done by Ron.    Ron gave the interview fully, but the man who was doing the podcast took exception to Ron's interview by saying if this is all true, why the wait?  He is not familiar with the Urantia Book problem on the planet and we are.

"As a consequence of the man's decision to rewrite the interview, he visited Ron but Ron i s ill quite often he he layed down to rest after the interview and dropped off into deep sleep.  As a result when the man returned to the house there was nothing but silence at the moment when the interviewer reappeared at the house.  Long story short the man went back to South Carolina and lost control of the car when he entered his own driveway and the interview tape was damaged not.  Right now the tape is repaired and the show goes on.  Ron has no idea what and where the program will be played.  I leave this alone for now for the chaos continues well even now and we leave it for compensation elsewhere.  Good day,  MICHAEL OF NEBADON at your service." K

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TRANSLATIONS / 12.4.2024 – Reprodukcja i prawdziwy wiek ludzi
« Last post by Andre_P on April 12, 2024, 04:03:48 am »
Te same wiadomości po angielsku :
https://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=21195.msg103074#msg103074
Kategoria / Temat : Dyskusje ogólne / Departament Stanu Salvingtonu - Spojrzenie na wojnę w ogóle i całą Ukrainę


1) Napisał : JRL1944, pełny członek
« Odpowiedź nr 1, 7 kwietnia 2024 r., godz. 14:48:26 »

Dzień dobry, Ron.

Jak się dzisiaj masz ?

Mam kilka pytań, na które potrzebuję więcej wyjaśnień.
Ojciec Michał Nebadoński powiedział, cytuję :

''Mam pod opieką ponad 10 milionów zamieszkałych planet w lokalnym wszechświecie
Nebadonu."

To gigantyczne zadanie. Jak On jest w stanie opiekować się tymi wszystkimi planetami ?

Teraz moje drugie pytanie :

“...ziemska forma ciał na waszej planecie, Urantii, jest bardzo słabo zaprojektowana do tego, co teraz nazywamy końcem cywilizacji i początkiem nowych podstawowych środków do replikacji ludzi nie poprzez narodziny, lecz przez Promagniańską Postać międzygwiezdnej reprodukcji.”

Czy możesz wyjaśnić "Promagniańską Postać" Ron ? Jaki to typ ?

Dziękuję Ron.

Z wyrazami szacunku

Robert


2) Przekazał : Ron Besser, administrator, członek bohater
« Odpowiedź nr 2, 7 kwietnia 2024 r., godz. 17:10:48 »

Robert, z księgi Urantii masz to :

6. Wieczny Syn

8. Rozpoznanie Wiecznego Syna

6:8.3 Możecie sobie wyobrażać osoby Ojca Wszechświatowego i Wiecznego Syna jako oddzielne jednostki, faktycznie takimi są; jednak w administracji wszechświatów tak bardzo się przeplatają i wiążą wzajemnie, że nie zawsze jest możliwe ich rozróżnienie. Gdy w funkcjonowaniu wszechświatów napotyka się Ojca i Syna, w trudnych do zrozumienia związkach wzajemnych, próby rozróżnienia ich działań nie zawsze są celowe. Przypomnijcie sobie po prostu, że Bóg jest inicjującą myślą a Syn pełnym ekspresji słowem. W każdym wszechświecie lokalnym ich nierozdzielność uosobiona jest w Bóstwie Syna Stwórcy, który reprezentuje zarówno Ojca jak i Syna dla istot z dziesięciu milionów zamieszkałych światów.


Tu Ron Robercie. Jak dotąd Nebadon ma 3,8 miliona ludzkich planet do zarządzania. To nie przeszkadza, że Michał Nebadoński będzie miał 10 milionów w przyszłości, ale oznacza to, że w przyszłości w Nebadonie pojawi się znacznie więcej planet.

Co więcej, obecna liczba 3,75 miliona zamieszkałych planet w Nebadonie nie przeszkadza, że pojawi się tam kolejne 6,5 miliona planet. Do każdego Syna Stwórcy należy określenie stanu całkowitej liczby ludzkich planet, które wniesie do swojego Wszechświata Lokalnego.

Przypominam ci, że nasz Stwórczy Duch odszedł z Nebadonu, Robercie. Zapomniałeś o tym ? Ona uczestniczyła w tworzeniu ludzkich kształtów, a ludzka postać Urantii została zaprojektowana miliony lat temu i jest obecnie uważana za przestarzałą, ale nie wiem nic o tym, co jest planowane dla przyszłych form ludzkich na Urantii, ponieważ jest to wciąż otwarta kwestia dla Bóstwa Absolutu, które zdecyduje, kiedy nadejdzie czas. Nie zapominaj, że projekt ludzi na innych planetach to narodziny bez ludzkich systemów reprodukcyjnych. Proszę pamiętać o innych przypadkach, zwłaszcza o postaciach z Plejad. Poproś Carole Deptula, żeby przyjęła wiadomość z Plejad, żeby porozmawiać o ich kształtach. Są oni niewidoczni dla nas i rozmnażają się inaczej.


Mówią PLEJADY : "Dziękujemy Ron. Masz teraz do czynienia z faktyczną kliką i to sprawia, że te komunikaty są bardzo trudne do wyprodukowania, jesteś jednak wystarczająco dobrze przygotowany, żeby uzyskać teraz bezpośredni głos Plejad:

"Reprodukcja ludzi nie pochodzi z ludzkiej postaci. Przechodzicie od formy zwierzęcej na Urantii do formy ludzkiej, tak jak ty Ronem jesteście w pełni i do końca zaopatrzony w Dostrajacza. Z tego powodu człowiek przechodzi od zwierzęcia do około 14 roku życia, jeśli wszystko działa dobrze, a następnie staje się człowiekiem z dodatkiem Dostrajacza, obecnie znacznie później niż kiedyś. W rezultacie dobre ludzkie zasoby kończą się znacznie później w tej grupie wiekowej, co przejawia się w straszliwej utracie ludzi z powodu Dostrajaczy niezależnych od wieku, nalegających, żeby dziecko było obecnie gotowe do dorosłości znacznie wcześniej.

"Kiedy to się zdarza obecnie często, nie ma nic, co mogłoby powstrzymać dzieci przed staniem się zbyt niedojrzałymi, by podjąć dorosłe życie bez wcześniejszego Dostrajacza. Dlaczego tak się teraz dzieje, nie jest wiadomo, ale cały powód wydaje się być oparty na fakcie, że zwierzęca natura na Urantii powiększa się, a terminologia dla dorosłych ze starej Księgi Urantii jest zbyt wyrafinowana, żeby młodsi przedludzie mogli ją pojąć.

"Ludzkość na Urantii jest prawie rozbita. Nie można utrzymać dorosłości w taki sposób, jak do tej pory, bez dzikiego przejścia przez okres dojrzewania. Odmówiliście tego, ale nie odmawiacie pełnego stanu odpowiedzialności i teraz nalegacie, żeby każdy, z kim się spotykacie, miał dorosły nadzór, zanim dokona prawdziwego poświęcenia, żeby pracować z wami jako prawdziwy, dojrzały dorosły. Nie wszyscy na tym forum dyskusyjnym są jeszcze prawdziwymi dorosłymi, a jednak oczekujecie, że będą się zachowywać jako tacy. Nie wszyscy jeszcze to potrafią i wy się jedak na to zgadzacie. Jest to rzadkie i nie na długo i nie ma nic wspólnego z twoją chorobą lub powściągliwością przed rozmową. Ta powściągliwość jest znakomita i tak bliska, jak to tylko możliwe, żeby znaleźć prawdziwe rozwiązanie problemu techniki BPE (bezprzewodowego przekazywania energii). Została ona dana rozumiejąc, że będziecie w stanie rozpracować to lepiej, ale Urantia jest teraz tak trudna, że możecie nigdy nie być w stanie pracować nad tym poprawnie. Musimy zobaczyć, czy pojawia się coś lepszego oprócz Dominicka lub Elise, którzy są dorośli i dobrze pracują, ale nieśmiało rozwijają technologię jako część swojego życia.

"Z tego powodu nie może istnieć ludzki wzorzec wieku od 14 do 16 lat, tak jak ty przeszedłeś przez to Ron, ale bez powodzenia. Czekałeś, aż będziesz miał prawie dwadzieścia (20) lat, żeby dojrzeć na tyle, by w ogóle być dorosłym. Z tego powodu twoje życie wydaje się krótkie, ale jesteś jednym z najstarszych na Urantii, którzy nie zburzyli poprzedniego życia, żeby żyć dorosłym życiem dostępnym po pełnym otrzymaniu Dostrajacza. Z tego powodu jesteś bardziej niż gotowy do światów-mieszkań, ale nie możesz tego zrobić, ponieważ MISJA DLA URANTII trwa i musisz podtrzymywać życie dłużej niż zwykle, żeby żyć życiem (nie łatwym), ale z chorobą, żeby przejść przez przeciwności życia w pełni dorosłego na Urantii. Niewielu może to teraz zrobić, a oto dlaczego :

"I wreszcie, Robercie, stajesz się całkiem stary, ale jesteś chory z powodu przeniesienia swojego życia do Stanów Zjednoczonych, zanim stałeś się w pełni dorosły, a to kosztowało cię cywilizację wartości, która poszła w błoto i zmusiła cię do rozszerzenia obecnego cyklu życia w tryb słabego zrozumienia tego, czego się od ciebie wymaga. Ty Ron masz wadę tak wielką jak twoja głowa, a to dlatego, że nie masz nic, co uczyniłoby cię dorosłym, ale nalegasz, żeby nim być i cieszyć się dorastaniem z prawdziwymi dorosłymi, takimi jak generał Powell i papież Benedykt VIII. Są oni naprawdę dobrymi modelami dorosłych Urantii i mamy nadzieję, że będziesz żył wystarczająco długo, żeby nacieszyć się tym, co dla ciebie jeszcze zrobią !

"Podsumowując, Dominick pojawi się u ciebie dziś po południu, ale wkrótce wyjeżdża do domu i uporządkuje ten bałagan. Nie powie ci zbyt wiele, ponieważ szybko staje się starszy od ciebie, a to nie jest dla ciebie pomocne, ale co jest dla ciebie pomocne to to, że ty sam powoli bierzesz na siebie odpowiedzialność dorosłości, ponieważ nadal cieszysz się nijakim życiem młodszych słoni na planecie i nie używasz siebie dobrze na ogół wcale w tej chwili. K"


PLEJADIANIE mówili do ciebie Ron i zaskoczyli cię, że aż zakceptowałeś wszystko, co ci powiedziano. To dobrze, bo większość z tego jest poprawna, ale zrobiłeś niesamowitą rzecz, którą niewielu kiedykolwiek zrobi, a mianowicie uczciwie oddałeś swoje życie Nadrzędnym Kontrolerom Siły, żeby cieszyć się rzemiosłem wysokiego poziomu informacji i nadal cieszyć się korzyściami z bardzo młodego wieku.

"Z tego powodu MICHAŁ NEBADOŃSKI chce, żebyś był członkiem personelu, aby nadać sens ludziom, którzy nie mogą starzeć się bardziej, niż sugeruje to ich wiek chronologiczny. W czasach generała Waszyngtona wiek człowieka był faktycznym wiekiem wkładu w planetę, ale teraz 16-latek jest tylko w połowie tego wieku i tak naprawdę nie jest jeszcze człowiekiem. To cię trapi, ale jednocześnie pozwala na znacznie więcej dygresji i być może jest to lepsze niż oczekiwano. To wszystko jest dla ciebie nowe i raczej ci się podoba. Papież Benedykt miał 116 lat w chwili śmierci i był już mocno chory na ten wiek. W języku dorosłych masz około 86 lat i też jesteś już mocno chory na ten wiek, ale musisz zakończyć swoje życie znacznie później niż teraz i nie ośmielamy się jeszcze o tym mówić.

"Teraz to : Elise jesteś jeszcze nastolatką. Gitz, ty jesteś starszy od Rona, ale o pół tuzina lat, a on ma 58 lat w terminologii czasu rzeczywistego i odszełby w wieku 29 lat, gdyby odszedł, gdy wrócił do Jorku z Nowego Jorku 30 lat temu. Zabawne, jak dojrzałość najlepiej łączy się z łatwością życia, a on miał ciężkie życie, ale życie i tak było dla niego łatwe przez lata, ale ty rosłeś skokowo po powrocie do domu z Nowego Jorku, Ron. Dominick ma około 74 lat, a ty Ron masz teraz około 77 lat w kategoriach rzeczywistych, a nie 81 lat, które masz teraz chronologicznie. Musimy być ostrożni z tym wszystkim, ponieważ twój wiek w rzeczywistych przeżytych latach wynosi 105 lat Ron i nic dziwnego, że czasami jesteś zmęczony przez cały dzień. W każdym razie wystarczy tego i dla reszty z was, większość z was na tym forum dyskusyjnym ma około 60 lat, a kilku znacznie poniżej tego. Ze względów państwowych nie wchodzę w to.

W końcu ty Robercie jesteś mniej więcej w wieku, który i tak osiągnąłeś i nikt z was nie przechodzi przez to nie zyskując przejścia do grupy wiekowej Urantii, w której będziecie dobrze ustaleni, kiedy pojawicie się w niej w pewnych latach, które wkrótce nadejdą. Wiek otwarcia światów-mieszkań wynosi około 50 lat chronologicznych na planecie i Urantia to osiągnęła, ale to przestało rosnąć z powodu napięć w świecie rzeczywistym i niezdolności do starzenia się. Ron się zestarzał, podobnie jak Dominick i George, ale reszta z was jest stosunkowo młoda i dzięki Bogu mieliście wiek Rona do prowadzenia was, ponieważ podążanie za Synem Stwórcą jest niezwykle trudne, ale Ron robi to bez dużej zmiany nawyku robienia tego. Niech to wszystko na razie wystarczy. Dobrego dnia. Jestem nr 404 z Zakonu Sił Nadrzędnych z numerami 402 i 401. Ron mówi dziękuje wam "chłopaki", ale poprawiliśmy go, że całkowicie pozostajemy Organizatorami Sił Nadrzędnych. K"

KONIEC
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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Announcement of Great Value to Read from MIchael of Nebadon
« Last post by Moses Ouko on April 12, 2024, 01:09:27 am »
Dear all,

This term “Magisterial Sons and Daughters“ actually caught my attention as well. 
I have never heard Magisterial Daughters mentioned before. I am as curious as many others are. 
We would appreciate some clarification here. Thank you.


Love and Blessings,
Moses
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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Announcement of Great Value to Read from MIchael of Nebadon
« Last post by Jose Vargas on April 11, 2024, 18:15:23 pm »
Dear Ron:

“There is a fundamental change to contact now.  Contact was and is still used to reach human minds so that we have a continuum of voicing according to the Magisterial Sons and Daughters (more on this later), then we did before.  Do not lament this, but address Michael of Nebadon, the Fair Axis of Employment.”

Could you please ask Michael of Nebadon to please clarify who are the “Magisterial Daughters“?

Jose L. Vargas Nunez
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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: LLUSA WEDNESDAY 10 APRIL 2024
« Last post by Lemuel on April 11, 2024, 17:45:52 pm »

Ron, this in no way addresses the problem and confusion experienced in
my Lightline on Wednesday.

I do not, and cannot, accept that I receive a clear and concise message from
Michael of Nebadon and just a few minutes later you receive the exact
opposite.

What do you say, Ron?

Lemuel
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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: LLUSA WEDNESDAY 10 APRIL 2024
« Last post by Ron Besser on April 11, 2024, 17:27:47 pm »
This is Michael of Nebadon.  Stop it please.  You should know better than to speak for me when there is nothing but confusion, yet you all try to do it.  I have this to say.  Lemuel and Elise - you are not dropped from the schedule and continue please if you can.
Ron will continue on Sunday and provide essential information.  Elise, Lemuel continue as you have been there is no change as long as you are active.
Third, Ron is trying to figure out who is doing what and has about lost it.  Follow your schedules and do as you anticipate and I have nothing more to say to any of you as the entire trip to Urantia I have taken, it has been nothing but confusion.  Ron and I are in good communication.  He has the Sunday Lightline this week and we expect to see him then.  Follow your normal schedule please. 

Michael of Nebadon at your service.  K

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: LLUSA WEDNESDAY 10 APRIL 2024
« Last post by SonsofGod on April 11, 2024, 14:07:58 pm »
Thanksgiving for this Lightline to Michael of Nebadon and Machiventa Melchizedek. Thank you, Lemuel and Ron. We are so glad to hear that the information will continue to flow. That is the most important to keep us together as a group under any circumstances, and to expel all lurking darkness. The tides will turn again, I am sure. Until then, we keep being about our Father's business wherever we are and receive instructions from within.  

The only part that is disappointing and painful is knowing that the world will not change for the better any time soon, expect if and when WTP will revolutionize the globe! That will bring much attention to the goodness of our Father and Father Michael, it might even swing the doors open to the visible Missions with acceptance. My prayer is to remove the individuals from leading positions who are the enemy of advancement for selfish reasons, and do not care to work for the best interest of the people. Let them live out their lives stripped from power positions. I know there are many, but Spirit can start somewhere that will have a snowball effect, I believe. It does not have to be that people would SEE Spirit in order to make some order in the world. Let people see some of the consequences of their actions instead.  Were we not tested and tried? Isn't that what the world needs to go through also? Some may come out like gold. May be not gold but silver, at least, as longs as turning to the light from darkness.  

The question I have left is about the SIXTH EPOCHAL REVELATION.  Will it still come to Urantia? If so, nothing has changed other than visibility. People of the world should learn anyhow to have faith without seeing when they see through such an incredible manifestation. We need to do the outreach better and that is our opportunity to partake in the Mission of saving Urantia.

Another question comes to mind that also is my PRAYER forever, will the evil ones be removed from Urantia continually and fully? There is enough suffering and depravation on the planet already without their further input. Souls are getting lost, so let there be light only and no more darkness! Please Father! No devil (or better names you call them) can stop our progress, the progress of greater Light reaching Urantia.  Let there be a constant exposure of the darkness that will cause people to able to choose the Light. Father! Please expose the darkness of corruption and dark secrets by your spiritual means!

Lastly, what is most concerning to us all for many years is Ron's health and Lemuel's as well. We pray, please Father Michael, grant them the privileges of life extension and /or miraculous healing, whatever it takes. We need them so much to keep the 'spiritual ball rolling' may it be Lightlines or WTP, facilitators of places of our family gathering. We all would also seek and be forever thankful for some healing in our aging bodies to able to stay the course. Thank you, Father, for listening. We know that your love has no end, that you consider my request and answer it. Thank you and Amen.

sonsofGod
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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: LLUSA WEDNESDAY 10 APRIL 2024
« Last post by Moses Ouko on April 11, 2024, 08:52:15 am »
1.    041024 Audio Tape Wednesday Light Line USA; host: Lemuel

2.    Subjects: -Human participation in the missions is put off until Michael decides what to do with Urantia; -Future of the discussion forum in question; -No chance of success of a Magisterial mission under present conditions on Urantia; -Michael to put in place plan B of the missions; -the seventh bestowal experience of Michael as Jesus on Urantia has never been recounted fully; -the disappearance of the supreme is a tremendous lesson to the whole of the Master Universe; -Michael urges members not to throw in the towel as they are very precious; -Future news to come through the Sunday lightline only; -The other Lightlines to continue normally whenever possible; -New transmitters needed.

3.    Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Machiventa Melchizedek

4.    Transcribed By: Moses Ouko

5.    Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240410_110217


Lemuel
Hello and good evening, good afternoon to those of you who have joined this quite unexpected lightline this Wednesday, the 10th of April, 2024. We are just seven at the moment. Myself, Ron, Jose Vargas, Salvador, Robert from New York, George Meyer and Charlotte from Alabama. Let us see who we have here to address us this Wednesday, lightline. Excuse me.

Michael of Nebadon
Yes, this is Michael of Nebadon, Lemuel.

Lemuel
Thank you, Michael. So please go ahead when you're ready.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you, Lemuel.
This is Michael of Nebadon. And I have mixed feelings, not about what I have to say, but about the fact that you, when I say you, I am referring to all of you, those of you who have been so loyal and did in your trust for the lightlines and for the upcoming missions that you were to participate.

Well, I am sad to say that that is no longer the case. This is why I have mixed feelings. I feel for you, for every one of you. But in any case, I want you all to know your loyalty, your care, your concern, your prayers have been and are extremely grateful for all of them. Greatly appreciated. You have a saying; the writing is on the wall. You all know what that means. It is an advice, a warning. Well, this warning has been written on the wall for quite some time. And I am sure you are all aware of it. There is no point in beating about the bush any longer. The fact of the matter is, it hasn't been a complete waste of time. No, it has not. But it must be said that the result is almost zero. That is to say, from my perspective, from my point of view, with all that I can see and all that I feel and all that I know, the sum result is almost zero. Except to say, and this is important for all of you to hear, except to say, all of you have come a tremendous way. You have learnt so many things. Your faith has grown in leaps and bounds. It is not easy to become an Agondonter.  Truly, really, to believe and to trust in our faith without seeing. You are all to be commended. Your contribution has not gone unnoticed. The truth is, we cannot do what we wanted to do and in the way we had planned for. Although, as you are fully aware, the plans, many times, were off the table and then on the table, off the table, on the table, and those that finally remained on the table needed tweaking regularly, a little bit here, a little bit there, but in fact, we have reached the point now that there is no more tweaking to be done. It simply is not worth it.

As you all know, it would have been a first for human participation in a magisterial mission. At the beginning, it was totally unexpected, but way back in the 90s, at the beginning of the first teaching mission, the possibility was there. There were transmitters who were transmitting perfectly well. But it didn't and in a way couldn't last for all sorts of reasons. And then come in more up-to-date, The light lines and what Ron has put into place, the magisterial foundation, so much work, so much preparation, so much planning for the good of all. Not least of which, of course, WTP. I have made the decision, the light lines, permanently, as you have come to understand the light lines as they have been, because the sum total is precious little use. That may sound harsh to your words. It's not meant to be harsh. It is simply the truth. And sometimes, yes, the truth can be harsh. But this in no way should be interpreted as a reflection on your poor participation or in any way human fault. That is not and has not been the case. I will continue using Ron Besser, on a Sunday, for as long as he remains alive, and you all know that he can go at any moment, and the truth of the matter is, Lemuel is in the same boat.

You have known for some time that the future of the discussion forum was under a magnifying glass, so to speak. Because of such short or little participation. But I understand there are reasons for that. It is not easy to discuss something that keeps changing as often as the wind changes direction. I understand that.

You will be informed, in fact, if the light line, I'm sorry. If the discussion forum is taken down and whether or not it is worth setting up a new one. We shall see. In fact, some kind or some type of discussion forum is necessary as long as there will be a Sunday light line to report and for you to listen to the tape. So, we shall see about that. You will be informed. Yes, I know. I know I can feel what Lemuel is feeling and I know and I can feel what you are all feeling and thinking. It is disappointment yes of course it is disappointment. Well, more than that it is a shame, it is a shame that nothing can be done as long as the people on this planet behave in such a way. The atrocities that are committed every second in some place throughout the world not only is it an abomination, there are hardly no words to describe this.

What chance is there of a magisterial mission having any chance of success under the present conditions? Well, the short answer is of course None. No chance. I will not put any of my sons in danger. No way and so yes, I can see a question arising in Lemuel's mind because he is military and I know what he is thinking and yes, we could come with all the force that I have at my disposal and sort out the problems but at the same time that would create many problems.

I and those with me must now find another way. So yes there is plan B. It is such a disappointment that plan A which included human participation cannot now take place. Something I want you to consider not already considered it, you are fully aware of the uniqueness of Urantia. All the problems that it has suffered ever since the rebellion. The quarantine, no contact from Paradise. No spiritual input for so many, many years and yet I Michael of Nebadon chose this planet for my seventh and final bestowal. To live and experience what life is like as a human through Jesus. The whole of that experience has not and cannot yet be recounted. In other words, nobody knows from A to Z what took place during my seventh bestowal as Jesus. At this moment I do not know if it will ever be told. It certainly needs to be told for countless future generations as it is the history of the Lucifer Rebellion. Has been and is continuing to be studied by so many other universes knowing what took place here because of the uniqueness of Urantia. Urantia is and always has been a school of hard knocks. for that very reason that is to say as a result of the Lucifer Rebellion.

And as you know more recently the disappearing of the supreme. This is another story that has not been fully told but it must be and one day it shall be because this in and of itself the disappearance of the supreme is a tremendous lesson to learn for the whole and throughout the whole of the Master Universe. Deity, real Deity, 100% existential Deity must remain existential only. We are still experiencing the birth pangs of the new Universe Age. So many things. So many changes and yet so many new things have been found to be necessary and the changes have been put into place. And that is something ongoing and it will continue for millennia to come.

I am coming to a close in what I wanted to dictate through Lemuel. What I do not want or what I hope I will not see, is that you individually or collectively decide to throw in the towel and try to pretend that the previous 10 years or 15 years or whatever it is, has been a total and a waste of time because that is not the case. You are not the best of your own existence. Of your own progress. Your ego may try to tell you something else. Your egos know nothing of what is truth, about your spiritual advancement. I will repeat what has been said several times. It is amazing that here on Urantia, there have come to be people as yourselves bearing in mind all of the past and yet here you are. Very few in number. This is true but very precious.

My final words to all of you are, please remember why you have been brought to this point to this very moment in your lives. because your thought adjusters have brought you here and he wants you to be here and you have cooperated with him throughout so many years of your lives. it is a tremendous achievement for all of you and a tremendous success for your thought adjusters. They are greatly experienced thought adjusters. They have all had so many previous wards that could not continue. you indeed are small in numbers but very precious. Remember that. I thank you all again once more for your participation, for your loyalty, for your caring, for your prayers, thank you. And for future news look to the Sunday Lightline only with Ron Besser and I will continue to speak through Ron for as long as he is able. and so, with those few words I say once again thank you and I bid you all a very good day. thank you, Lemuel. Thank you.

Lemuel
Oh Michael. Michael thank you so much. Thank you. Just give me a moment please. Need to be quiet for a moment. Well, I'm going to take a little sip. Thank you. Well, what can I say. I'm sure you all must be thinking more or less the same things that I'm thinking and feeling at this moment and yet I can say for myself, cannot speak for any of you of course I can say for myself from my heart it has been a privilege and an honour being a part in the light lines and to share the space that we have together as a little family. To get to know each other to at least some degree and to appreciate the mutual problems that we all have to face on a daily basis. Especially us oldies. Nevertheless, I myself feel it was a great privilege and an honour to be able to serve in such a small way. All right.  Well Ron if you don't mind, I'm going to come to you now and to see if you have something that you wish to say. I will unmute you now Ron. just give me a moment.

Ron
All right. Thank you.

Lemuel
You're unmuted Ron.

Ron
Thank you, Lemuel. can you hear me?

Lemuel
Yes, I hear you fine Ron. Please go ahead if you can

Ron
All right. thank you, Michael, thank you Gabriel, thank you Universe for the opportunity to speak. I want it to be known that the last few days I've been barely able even to sit up without falling into a deep sleep. I don't know what that means but probably a conclusion to my life. I don't say that easily or simply but I've had the privilege of serving Michael, the Universe, and our Father for a number of years now and it is coming to a close. I am preferably not dying but that is entirely up to the Universe to determine what I do. To Dominick, please come over, there are some things I need to finish. Number two, I’ve got to speak to Kalk, one way or another. That is one of the things I must discuss with you when you come over Dominick.

Michael of Nebadon
And number three, please let it be known that Michael of Nebadon is in the room with Ron.

Ron
Well, thank you Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
You're welcome, Ron.

Ron
And now this; I am speaking more or less as the Universe robber of things that I thought I could do and have discovered that I can't move. Michael of Nebadon is going to make possible to do the electricity. I don't know how he's going to do it we have zero interest but the second thing involved is that Michael of Nebadon is furious with all who have participated and have not done anything to promote what can be done. That is not you ladies and gentlemen that is the world. And finally this; before Michael goes.

Michael of Nebadon
I have this to say to all of you I am Michael, please understand that the light line will go and that is it will continue on Sunday at least. Lemuel is too ill to continue every time but we are asking you Lemuel to participate when you can. Let Ron know. Number two; I Michael of Nebadon am insisting that Ron stay the course for months ahead if I need him. he is not unhappy just sleepy and ill, but that can be corrected easily. Number three or four let's call it four;   I happen to believe that the entire matter of light line, the listeners, the doers, and those who would like to hear but cannot get in, are done for now. Ron will do the light lines for Sunday and will work the light lines for Wednesday until a replacement for Lemuel, if necessary is found. Elise, on Monday is happy to continue. We expect her, Elise to continue Monday. We expect the Sunday light lines to continue with Ron. We do not know about Dominick and Tuesday. But Wednesday is done unless you Lemuel, feel you can do it and then do it. There are no other light lines scheduled. Renee and Clency may do their light lines and work it as they please. You are on when you are ready to speak. I do not mean to truncate you. And finally, this, we have 15 on the call today. I see your names, your telephone numbers, and that you have logged in at a particular time. We are going to continue the Sunday light lines. We are going to continue any light line during the week, weekend. Dominick is asked to stand down. Elise is asked to continue with Monday. Ron is to continue with Sunday. in so far as I know except when Lemuel can do it, the light lines are done, for now. And now Ron I leave and you will not fall asleep.

Ron
That is excellent Michael and I thank you for your attendance.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you. I will Not leave you Ron but listen to this before I leave. The Sunday light line is still the most important. Monday with Elise, Tuesday with Dominick, Wednesday with Lemuel will continue if you can, don't put it off if you can. It's too important. And finally, this for you Ron you are circumspect at best. You make no mention of the magisterial foundation in any of this because you leave it to me to make it work. I am now going to make it work permanently and truly for the considerable time between now and the future, when a mission will be sent to Urantia and that you will all participate. You are not taken off you, but you have to wait until I reconsider what to do with Urantia. And finally, this to you Lemuel, I'm giving this back to you shortly but Machiventa Melchizedek wishes to speak next. Thank you, Ron.

Ron
Well, thank you Michael and this is not over.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Machiventa Melchizedek now speaks. I am Fully disarranged. I did not Expect Michael to say goodbye even to Ron but I see he has not. The truth of the matter is; you all could participate but do not. Only Gitz, is unavailable because of the design of his mind. The rest of you can transmit. I want a transmitter for every day of the week if I can get them. Please sign up with Ron. if I do not hear from anybody by next Sunday and I don't mean this one but I mean the Sunday afterwards, I will truncate further. For now we have Monday light line with Elise, to continue. Tuesday with Dominick, to continue. Wednesday with Lemuel, to continue if he can. Thursday, Friday and Saturday are open days for other transmitters to transmit if they want to. We hope you do. Sunday is for sure with Ron. Now I turn to you Machiventa for an itinerary of what you expect. Thank you

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael of Nebadon and Machiventa has chosen to be silent. You’re going have to speak it, Ron. This is Michael of Nebadon. Number one; no further light lines are planned except for Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday is optional for Lemuel as he can do it. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, is open for new transmitters. If you can transmit sign up with Ron. He'll be glad to do it for you. The next item number two; I am fully sure that Ron, Lemuel, Dominick, Elise and Rene and Clency, are with us yet but there is illness upon the transmitters. Ron could barely get awake to do it today. He is expecting that you Dominick will be here this afternoon. It's important. The next item three or four I'm not sure; the truth of the advertisement is that the magisterial foundation still contains the bulk of the revelation of how to do WTP. Simple electricity broadcast rather than over wires. He will continue to put all emphasis on WTP and we demand that it be accepted. There are plans afoot between Dominick and Ron and a gentleman engineer called Kalk that must go through Dominick. And finally, this, I am not going to feature myself a lot except through Ron. The other light lines, Elise, Lemuel, Dominick, Clency, Rene, are expected to perform, please. The usual contact between Urantia and the universe is no longer in effect. I'm pulling it down. Those transmitters in the West will receive their final warning. Let yourself be open, Ron.

Ron
I'm glad to. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon
And finally, this, I am Michael of Nebadon. I have spoken the sadness of my feelings for what has happened. The Urantia Foundation has been no help. The Urantia other one, the brotherhood one time, is no longer operational fully. They have financial problems and cannot keep it going. And finally, to you, Ron, you always have financial problems. The donations of the board and those outside of the board, especially Weydevu and Carol Deptula, are deeply appreciated. Please keep them coming if you can. If not, we will take it out of our own pocket.


Ron
And finally, this, I am, and this is Ron Besser speaking, going to turn this back over to Lemuel so he can speak Machiventa Melchizedek because Machiventa Melchizedek is not happy with me. Lemuel, I'm now turning this back to you. Machiventa should be on the line for you. Go ahead.

Lemuel
All right. Thank you, Ron. Yes, Ron.

Machiventa Melchizedek.
Thank you, Lemuel.

Lemuel
Yes.

Machiventa Melchizedek.
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. I'm not going to make any further comment. But I will say a few things now through Lemuel. First of all, to thank you sincerely, Lemuel, for the way you have received the dictation from Michael of Nebadon earlier on. I personally found it quite moving myself. And what you spoke to was true. And the way you spoke was sincere and I thank you for that. For the rest, let it be known or just to remind you all that myself, as the governor of the Planet Urantia, and the whole of my movement of Melchizedeks, will remain of course at the service of Michael of Nebadon and of other celestial forces that need that which we can provide. I will not because I cannot at the moment go into any kind of detail as to what will now take place as far as we are concerned, Melchizedeks. that really depends now on the future plan that at this very moment Michael of Nebadon is looking into what can be done given the present global situation. So, I can only ask you to remain alert, please don't think that everything is just off and nothing is going to happen ever again because not the case. remain alert, remain up to date with the news but keep your own counsel. and yes, take place, take part, continue to take part in the light lines when they continue, as they continue, hopefully as is still planned. And as far as I am concerned Michael of I'm sorry Machiventa Melchizedek yes, Lemuel Machiventa Melchizedek I am here and I hope always to be here for light lines. And that's all I have to say for the time being. So, thank you, Lemuel for picking me up.

Lemuel
Well, thank you Machiventa Melchizedek, thank you. It was reassuring thank you. Well, everybody we are just five minutes away from the hour but I'm going to close it down now and it's been well, yes, an interesting lightline. I'm still feeling a little bit down I suppose I could say as I expect most of you are as well but nevertheless, we will continue as we can. Thank you for those of you who joined and I hope to be well enough to do another light line next Wednesday. I've just been informed this week that I need another operation and I have an interview with a surgeon quite soon. Anyway, so I should be still available to do next Wednesday's light line. I hope so anyway. So, until then thank you all again once more. thank you all so much. and until next week, take care, love one another, try to be happy and good night to all of you or good afternoon wherever you are.

Thank you.


 
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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: LLUSA WEDNESDAY 10 APRIL 2024
« Last post by Lemuel on April 11, 2024, 02:21:40 am »

Ron, I must tell you that I am deeply disturbed by the differences in our
transmissions during my Wednesday Lightline. I received quite clearly, that
the Lightlines had come to the end of their usefulness, except for your
 Sunday Lightline, which is to continue as long as you remain alive.

For me to receive such a clear and concise message from our Creator Son,
MICHAEL, and then just a few short minutes later to have it reversed
by your receiving, is greatly disturbing, to say the least.

The resulting confusion that this must cause in those who listen to the tape
recording, will inevitably raise doubts in their minds as to the authenticity
of these transmissions, supposedly from MICHAEL OF NEBADON.

Opposing messages will deter anyone from tuning in to any future Lightline.
Either my receiving was wrong or yours. I cannot believe that MICHAEL
would dictate something through me and the opposite through you just
minutes later.

Ron, I stand by what I received, that the Lightlines are over, except for yours,
at least for the time being, therefore there will be no further Lightlines on
Wednesday. 

Other Lightline hosts may choose to do otherwise, of course.

Ron, I felt it only right and propper that I inform you of my decision.


Lemuel



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MADAGASCAR LIGHTLINE CONFERENCE CALL / REPORT OF TODAY' S SESSION : WEDNESDAY 10TH, APRIL 2024.
« Last post by Albert on April 10, 2024, 17:35:35 pm »
Albert;
Location Place: ANTANANA÷R×IVO / MADAGASCAR;
Local Time : WEDNESDAY 10TH, APRIL ; 2024; 10:30 MINUTES; P.M.;ANTANANARIVO LOCAL TIME ( +03 UTC / EAT );
Subject: SUMMARIES ABOUT THE ETERNAL " I AM " BECOMIMG THE " FIRST SOURCE " OF ALL CREATIONS AND CREATURES AS  BEING GOD THE UNIVERSAL FATHER, UNTIL NOWEDAYS' REALITIES ;
Categories: MADAGASCAR  LIGHTLINE CONFERENCE CALL THE HEART OF MADAGASCAR
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Hello Dear Ron and you all Dear Sisters and Brothers and you all Dear Guests here in the forum.
Finally today WEDNESDAY 10TH, APRIL I succeded to do this report about our MLLCCTHOM we were performing .
As MC we were honored by TARKAS the One Whithout Name and Number.
As Tea⅗cher we were honored by PAUL ( of Tarsus ) ,also One Whithout Name and Number.
Because of the fact that 3/5 of the attendees are completely new ones the M.C. TARKAS talked about The " I AM " becoming later GOD THE FUNIVERSAL FATHER, GOD THE FIRST SOURCE of all 
Creations and all Creatures of which  some of the Celestial Creatures but also the Human Ones as being them all : real Children of God The UNIVERSAL FATHER,THE FIRST SOURCE.
He introduced MICHAEL OF NEBADON our direct Creator Father for all His Celestial Children as well as for us mortal Humans, planetary inhabitants of Urantia Planet where MADAGASCAR is being one part among the many inhabited countries : the World .
He explained Who were ADAM and EVE: being Material Son and Daugther as Missionaries from heaven ( from JERUSEM the Capital of  SATANIA our first step of heaven ), but Who failed before the betraial Planetary Prince of  Urantia.
He speaks about The One called The Great-Master (  Si- Jo, for us His followers in the Seventies and Eighties ) as being a genuine Divine  Missionary, even though, completely unknown of us , the Malagasy People.
The session ended after Half an One hour. 
The recordings should be posted later for any Malagasy listeners because we will still organizing ourselves materially  as being so poor.
ANNOUNCEMENT : The MLLCCTHOM would continue to  do the Work of God every WEDNESDAY at 12:30 MINUTES for the maximum number of FIVE (5) attendees authorized by any phone providers here in our country.
Thank you all reading.
DOMTIA
END
The Host : Albert. 


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