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Some Thoughts Muses & Meanderings / Who answers our prayers?
« on: September 12, 2021, 02:30:33 pm »
Dear Members and Guest,

We have started a discussion on Saturday LLUSA (September 11, 2021) about answered prayers and the processes whereby we may receive answers. Interestingly each one of the participant had a different point of view or knowledge from the UB. Larry therefore suggested that we would bring up the same subject on the forum again to receive answers from all who wish to participate, and hopefully together we would reach a unified conclusion. You may bring your transmission also.

I have found 169 verses in the UB by searching for the word: Prayer. Many of those addressing the evolution of prayer (Papers 63-95), and from paper 125 all related quotes are referencing Jesus’ prayer life and his teaching on prayer. He could not address the specific question who is answering our prayers, as he referred to all Universe Personalities under the name of ‘God’.

Apart from that, I have found only couple of quotes that touches on the subject of our discussion; however I did not receive a clear answer by reading them. Please find quotes below. I would suggest that you would listen to or read the transcript of said Lightline to flow into the discussion before you would bless us with sharing your knowledge and understanding. We appreciate and would love to read your comments below.

sonsofGod 


Paper 5 - God's Relation to the Individual

5:3:4 (65.6) The moment the element of self-interest intrudes upon worship, that instant devotion translates from worship to prayer and more appropriately should be directed to the person of the Eternal Son or the Creator Son. But in practical religious experience there exists no reason why prayer should not be addressed to God the Father as a part of true worship.

Paper 17 - The Seven Supreme Spirit Groups

17:6:5 (204.1) At the time the creatorship charge is administered to a Michael Son by the Eternal Son, the Master Spirit who directs the superuniverse to which this new Creator Son is destined gives expression to the “prayer of identification” in the presence of the Infinite Spirit; and for the first time, the entity of the subsequent Creative Spirit appears as differentiated from the person of the Infinite Spirit.

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In response to Ron's post about problems with transmitters of other groups I was pondering if Spirit would set a written standard of conduct for transmitters in order to receive transmissions. Since each transmitter representing the Divine Missions, this would be necessary regardless of divisions and misunderstandings of the current parties and groups. It would likely take care of the problem somewhat, for true solution will only come out of the heart. 

These were my initial thoughts but by the end of finishing this post I concluded, just forget it. It is a grievously sad fact on Urantia that even the few followers of Jesus who desire to do the Father's will, who called by His name to be sons and daughters of God, are in conflict due to fostering ignorance, pride, arrogance and superiority. How then could we expect the world to come to the Light if our light is dimmed by our own willful actions? “Our” does not include Ron here, for he made all the effort to reach out, but points in general to all true believers. 

Then I read some of Daniel Raphael's writings to which PJammer posted links on the forum and see things in a different light about him, why he has not responded to Ron's invitation. Surely, he has been impolite in case of conscious denial to respond and that I contribute to some hidden pride and feel of superiority, but what is the assurance that Daniel had not overlook the email as we all receive too many from unknown sources? Regardless of the cause, the apparent underlying reason of non interest is that Daniel Raphael considers himself a leader and co-creator on a mission. I am sure that he would not want to partake in any other activities; rather he is gathering people under his own leadership to form groups for reformation. He has published and continues publishing large volume of articles and books that I would say must keep him very busy. 


They are concerning sustainability and social reformation, somewhat under the leadership of Machieventa Melchizedek from whom he receives transmissions, but many of his publications are written not as direct transmissions but in his own words and ambition while managing websites to gain readership, prompting them to action and for support. He might feel that everyone whom he makes contact with should come under his leadership to form one of these groups while calling for unity under his own umbrella and sees this to be pivotal time to begin practicing change. By all means he means good, unlike Urantia Foundation that also pushes their own agenda alone while willfully harden their heats against Ron and his activities. Nowadays giving care is often conditional to potential gain, while some people are just cruel in the world in survival mode. I am not trying to clear Daniel's position unknowingly, only give the benefit of a doubt of previous opinions. Here is a quote from his bio: 

"Covid-19 has given hundreds of millions of democratic citizens the opportunity to step into the cultural leadership vacuum of “the new normal” with the alternatives that are presented in these papers." You may read the rest here: Daniel Raphael - Biography (google.com)

In conclusion, maintaining a friendly network of 'change agents' would be an innate criteria to bring change, and I believe the coming hardship will shape and form people's heart to give up on self centered ambitions and truly care for the needs and feelings of others.  Everything is subject to change now and the above suggested written standard of conduct will be written in the hearts of survivals, if any. 

I also see that Spirit cannot convey the same message to each representative, rather each group have to have their own area to be effective in. Viewing Daniel Raphael’s goals it would not help a tittle to draw him into receiving transmissions on brewing earth changes or taxing Universal events. His activity is for the time that we truly face the demands of sustainability.

This makes Lightline unique all the more. Switching the subject to ask a question, I am still struggling with knowing the Father's intention on publicizing the news about earth changes that I began last year upon agreement, but the great attack on my computers and activities put a halt to it. Can I continue posting select messages on YouTube specific to earth changes to inform or warn the public? I would extract parts of Lightline unaltered with minimal introduction to give the date and instruction how to hear the whole message. We would have few hundred listeners at first, and while I understand the delicacy of the problem of potentially creating panic; this would be too small of a drop in the ocean to cause a ripple effect. Yet it would create some awareness to Lightline and we were instructed not to do that. Therefore I feel that our Celestial family members are not in perfect agreement in these matters. It appears to me that the subject has not been discussed between Father, Michael and Machieventa to take the same stand, and due to that I am receiving mixed messages. Please advise, Ron. Thank you.


God bless you all, 
sonsofGod  

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Hello Everyone, 

On Sunday’s Lightline Ron complained about the quality and speed of Internet Service from various providers. I just landed on this infomercial yesterday that explains why this is happening (sorry for the fluff) and offers a solution that you might be interested in. 

Groundbreaking Device Fixes Slow Wi-Fi and Exposes Greedy Internet Service Providers (dailyhomelifenews.com)

As I was looking for the place to post this message seeing the many options brought something into my mind that I would like to mention here also.
I began duplicating the Serara Forum website by a website copier program for preservation purposes when Ron first brought up the need about a year or so ago (it was when the mirror server got set up).
The project became hard for me to complete on my personal computer due to the huge volume. I stopped copying after about 100 GB of data and I was only at the beginning.

Ever since it worries me to potentially lose data when Internet may get cut off, for I believe it would be utmost importance to have this site preserved. Thus, I bring it up to keep it on the forefront of our minds. Unfortunately, I have no solution to the problem yet, but it would be doable with proper equipment some of you may have TBs of storage space and fast internet connection to do it.

Blessings,
sonsofGod

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This is to address Archangel Ryan’s request to post our interest in what capacity we would like to partake in the Missions. You can listen to his message at LLUSA on June 9, 2021 (first message). I have been contemplating and praying into this subject and forwarded my answer in prayer, but should post it here also as we were asked to do so in the General category.

I believe Father has blessed us with many gifts, too numerous to count, and with the wisdom to recognize that He is always ready to bestow more on us according to the need and our willingness to receive. So far, during my lifetime I have gained substantial experiences in many areas. I wholeheartedly offer all that I learned, possess, and experienced for serving in the Missions. I will be happy to accept a position that my TA Father and our Celestial Leaders find fit for me to fill a need. I love creativity having a pioneer spirit, and love to see ideas blossom into working processes, and into beautiful material and intellectual products. It would be hard for me to prefer one activity over another, because they interweave to reach our goals. Whatever I had put my heart, mind and hands to in the past I always loved the work and done my best to walk in excellence. Although I have been wondering for a little while trying to figure out what is left of me after the shaking, I trust that none of my experiences and commitment got lost.

I was involved in many endeavors while moving back and forth to Europe, always in need to start over, always dreaming of a better future, and always interested to learn more, even before my heart was overtaken by the realization that the kingdom of God is at hand, Jesus is coming back, and we should start a brand new life turning the world right-side up. What a beautiful future! Accordingly, I have never been fully satisfied with the stations of my life, expect for the seasons of meaningful occupations. I hope and pray that God would fill our hearts to the fullest satisfaction and peace when partaking in the Missions.

[These are my experiences: For the early half of my professional life I was laboring in different scientific research laboratories in the areas of biochemistry, molecular biology and stem cell research. Even before that according to my choice of chemistry major I worked in a food factory doing quality control, water analysis, and microbiology. In the meantime I've developed a successful art product line in Europe that I abandon when submitted to my husband’s career path, then developed a fantastic food product in the US that did not make it to the market for various marketing reasons. returning to the US I have departed from science under some financial pressures and gained great business experiences over the next twenty years in planning and developing projects as founder and co-founder of business startup operations. The various occupations demanded management and leadership skills in the areas of sales, marketing, advertising, financial services - FHA and government secured loans -, and insurance sales. Out of need I have also learned graphic design for advertising and marketing material development purposes, and been involved in direct marketing, small wholesale operations and retail management.]

Each endeavor has its own story encapsulating my failures and successes, but the main benefit of all is knowledge and experience. Afterwards I feel that all I have learned was to prepare me for the call. Having many interests, and also as part of being a mother, I studied and promoted natural healing and many been blessed by it, but when I met Jesus in this season I dropped everything for His namesake to reset my life. As a result, utilizing my knowledge I have received two visions of kingdom building projects that I wrote in two books, one of which Jesus named Salvation Healing Center back in 2005. As well I planned out (wrote, designed) the first issue of a kingdom of God advancement magazine that I adore, having been a heavenly download in 2015. Perhaps all is for the not so near future that I am not able to foresee yet. as for now that Celestial plans must have changed, I am waiting to receive my new assignment.

When I felt I was called to follow Jesus more closely I began volunteering in 2008 to meet the physical and spiritual needs of our local community members and homeless population. In this season I authored couple of more books, waiting for editing and publishing and those I would really like to (need to) publish. In 2016 I have developed a channel to post videos of the learned, because I believe I have a teacher’s heart. Teaching has always accompanied my life some ways. I have done some tutoring very successfully, some training of sales professional, and been driven to teach classes about living in the Kingdom of God. Also, I have been gravitated towards changing and hopefully restoring the lives of young adults – now lost to addictions and iniquity – , and gained some momentum and foresight during ministry operations. Years ago I received prophecies of a future woman’s ministry. All is well, but I have little affinity to deal with little children with short attention spans.

Lately, I have spent a whole year with studying pathology to be able to diagnose and treat some diseases that medical professionals failed to acknowledge. Knowing that Father will not waste any experience, I believe this might becomes useful in the coming hard times when earth changes may cause the spread of new epidemics. I do not know why I had to go through this, but it took me a whole year to finally able to stop worrying about it, while had to fight the evil domain to tooth and nail also. It felt as hell on earth for me, and I declare it is over. After two years of intense spiritual warfare the only goal of my life is to be able to refocus on the work of the Missions. You have my full hearted commitment. I am willing to leave behind everything that does not belong. I would appreciate if I should not be separated from the apple of my eye. So help me Father and our Celestial family. I am still in the state of need for enlightenment and clarity as it has been promised to us, and of course in need of receiving direction and instructions from my Father daily, who lights the path to my feet.

I thank Archangel Ryan for asking and wish to repeat that I will be happy to serve in any Mission in any capacity you see fit for me. I hope to become part of a team that is chosen for me, wherever I fit the best, or a leader of a special assignment tailored for me, knowing that I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Also, it is in my heart to help Ron any way I can, not that I would have so far, but I hope so. He needs all the help he can get and I am willing to do whatever is useful to help him, once I can truly set my mind on things above not on earthly things. The truth of the matter is that my ego(?) is making my heart weaver between serving Jesus, and Michael, and Machieventa, and Adam and Eve when I hear the need, as little kids do in the candy store. Thus, I have to admit that I am not in the capacity to make these decisions for myself. All I know is – and I speak for all of us here – that we are very blessed for being a part of this work! All glory be to God, our Father! Thank you Father! Amen

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Ron, I am sorry that I missed LL yesterday but listening to the replay. I have been pondering about Rayson Corporation’s need for good engineers ever since I learned that Matt is not intoned with the work currently. I looked at different options and found couple of them that is valuable enough to report to you.

I have found a very skilled team in product development, 3D planning and rendering, and making prototypes of high technology items, for example yet plane engines and IT technology. They also undertake patenting and licensing but not mandatory to use their services, as they offer a four parts process that you can utilize partially or take advantage of all four entirely. As to my understanding this team is undertaking potentially patentable ideas from entrepreneurs to help complete the entire process for a fee. They have a superior engineering team and the needed facilities to take the product as far as finding the manufacturer. They attend tradeshows, do marketing, but I believe that your products will have such major worldwide impact and importance for planetary technical advancement and goodwill of humankind that it will put Rayson Corporation to the cutting edge in terms of negotiations. You perhaps could negotiate for royalties with the company from the sales. It would take a complete fool to reject such offer when it comes to a product to serve humanity for ages. Visiting their websites can give you an idea of their enormous capacity to carry your inventions to success. It is a large site; I read many of the details and am happy to work with you to find more answers that would save you some time perhaps. Not sure of that with the speed you can travel.

I have found another team that is focusing more on communicating customer satisfaction and highest integrity and transparency, producing new patented products themselves and helping individuals and business entities to reach their goals, including engineering as part of the same four step process. They have invented award winning small household items and electronics that you see on TV infomercials such as in “As Seen On TV” program. I believe you should find success between the two. This would eliminate the need to set up your own facility for now, that takes a lot of money too (the computer corrected my spelling mistake to ‘moony[font="Segoe UI Emoji", sans-serif]😉[/font]’ It take that too, to get infatuation with the ideas). I post many links so that you would not have to look for these details.

Thirdly, I have downloaded a book from another inventor who went down the rocky road of product development – prototype – patenting - licensing that had cost him a fortune with little success. Then he found that this traditional model is what everyone follows, but not the best model. There are cost effective powerful ways to break this protocol, about which he wrote this free book, using it for marketing his services. I read some of it and found it very informative. His services are not in the area of development and prototype, rather in the administrative, legal and marketing arena. I send you his book (.pdf) that may help open your mind to new venues when comes to that.   

Here are the links to the two groups. Presenting many links for easy view

1.       Belcan
Belcan Global Engineering, Consulting, & Technical Services
About Us | Belcan Global Engineering and Technical Services
Global Engineering Services & Innovative Solutions | Belcan
Transportation & Automotive Engineering Services | Belcan
Technical Services & Engineering Case Studies | Belcan
https://www.belcan.com/about/leadership/
https://www.belcan.com/contact-us/
https://www.belcan.com/about/corporate-beliefs/
https://www.belcan.com/resources/#news
https://www.belcan.com/resources/#_news
 
2.. Enhance Innovative Solutions
https://enhancepd.com/
https://enhancepd.com/contact/
https://enhancepd.com/our-team/
https://enhancepd.com/why-enhance/
https://enhancepd.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Enhance-Proves-TV-Products-Not-Dead.pdf
https://enhancepd.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Enhance-Design-For-Licensing-Article.pdf
https://enhancepd.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Enhance-Takes-Product-Ideas-To-Market.pdf
https://enhancepd.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Enhance-Design-Award-Nominations.pdf
 
Here is the link to the book from NEW INVENTIONS (inventor-strategies.com)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0g2udh61d39hvci/5%20big%20lies%20on%20selling%20inventive%20ideas.pdf?dl=0

Please let me know if anything more I can do about this. 

Blessings,
sonsofGod

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Dear Elise,

Happy Birthday to you this day!
May God bless every moment of your life and ministry forevermore. 

Valerie

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Happy belated 79th birthday Ron!

We celebrate life with each passing birthday and those numbers keep rising in our favor. We are so blessed that you are here Ron, thanks Father and Bozutu!

Enjoy a wonderful glass of wine, may pain cease forever, we all love you and thank you.

All blessing to you,
Valerie

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