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Thanks Moses, I come back to say you tell any Urantia Book reader of the standard reader issue, and they wonder what we are talking about.  That is the sad case of epochal changes taking place but only the book of scripture will be aligned in their heads as they way it still is.  I just mention to you that spirit calibrates the 5th epochal revelation as the Urantia Book, is now in error, actually corrupted, to almost 25% to 30% in error.  Error is manageable if one understands what the error is, and they refuse to be taught whatsoever about the evolution inside the Master Universe changes factual information all the time yet they are hugn up on the perfection of useless scripture itself--  at least 25 to 30 percent of it.

This is why MICHAEL OF NEBADON refuses to start the REGENCY until the Labor Day weekend is well over and done here in the United States/  We are a rich country by moist world standards, but we are poor as mice when it comes to the nonsense of how to live with so many opportunities to improve ourselves/.  As a result we dig outselves into a hole so big and deep it takes divine intervention to save the fact this country still represents the best opportunity for all of mankind to figure out how it got good and how the narrow minded bigots of our Senate wish to tear down progressive thought and replace it with tyranny and the chaos to change our government into autocratic rule.  Kenya is not unlike the United States and it emulates it in some fashion, but beware,   when people refuse to accept changes, and that is true of our Urantia Book now, the devil gets loose, and God knows how to stop them from misinterpreting how spirit and its influence on the resultant good government start to fail entirely to serve the people.  God the Fivefold of Five-fold, however you wish to write it, might be temporary as is our Federal form of government after the Regency takes hold in the years ahead.  Thanks for your post.  Ron

MICHAEL OF NEBADON speaks: "Moses, you have a good head on your shoulders, and you use it well.  Just repeat the fact that anything Absolute cannot live in time and space.  IF anything becomes Absolute, it has to happen on Paradise, and it never happens in the time-space universes ever.  For that reason I state to both of you, the REGENCY  IS READY TO USE!  But there is no one to use it yet in the American government, and for that reason we have to stand back momentarily to let Biden clear his mind of false information regarding the Ukraine and the Russian aggression.   I leave it at that for now.  K  MICHAEL OF NEBADON at your service.  -"

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Moses, I am sure Dominick might respond to this for your; however, let me correct something that seems to have been accidentally moved into your mind by a slightly misstated fact in the Arthura post above.

Human fusion does not result in a universe absolute condition in the sense of joining a Creator Son style absolute.  The Deities of Paradise do not create Absolutes to live in time and space as that is over doing the need for time and space to use.  Rather, a Creator Son is Absolute on personality levels while being sub0absolute in their Local Universes if they have one. 

ARTHURA HERE: "I stand with you Ron to caution everyone I never meant to say that man becomes a universe absolute after ascending to the FATHER on Paradise and having completed his Deity Adventure, man becomes an Absolute as a Finaliter.  No, rather, man becomes something of a Creator Son style of sub-absolute versions of spirit so long as he survives the entire mechanism of training that long service to othe local Universes has been observed, and that the Finaliter is ready to take on the training for OSL1 (the first outer space level) of introducing Ultimacy in OSL1.

"For that reason, nothing in the post at the tope has much to do with you at present time, but it does suggest that universe absolute style of creation eventually proceeds to appear in man if he learns to deal Ultimacy first and graduates as far as OSL3.  Then there is a chance man is introduced to universe absolute conditions, but I doubt that man partakes of any absolute until the Deity Absolute so decrees it is possible for man to do so.  Go ahead Ron with the rest of your post.  ARTHURA at your service. K"
Ron -  Moses, I do not want to confuse you with more explanations of  the meaning if Absolute terminology as we can really get into explanations not really necessary for you to understand that any ABSOLUTE IS INFINITY.  I state that carefully because one can point to ARTHURA as he is Absolute, but condition by time and space to even speak to us who are created in time and space.  In time and space one can only be sub-absolute, and ARTHURA is reporting he can dip into time and space but must use as time and space helper-spokesman to transmit to us and our transmitter minds.  You try very hard Moses and I think you are very well done with what you have to work with.  I am not especially caring that ARTHURA suggets some sort of ABSOLUTENESS in our eventual perfection of service, but I doubt that most humans anywhere in time and space will ever ascend to such a level ever. 

But that does not mean it is impossible for some humans to reach those levels, but then you Moses must take into consideration that thanks to the Paradise Trinity, they can change the human origin possibilities by embracing such a Finaliter and turn him into a Trinity Ascension Son or Daughter which no longer is restricted by being of a human origin.  Look at Tarkas and Jack and Bzhutu, they are ascenders who have been embraced by the Trinity, and they are now  Trinitized Sons of Attainment, as a new destiny group which can attain higher levels of perfection of unknown destiny degrees.  I suspect these Trinitized mortals and ascenders could reach Absilutle essentials with further help of additional Trinity emebracements.  

Paper 22 explains these additional powers to ascenders like this:


"22.1.10 The Trinitized Sons of Attainment - the Mighty Messengers, Those High in Authority, and Those without Name and Number - are all Adjuster-fused ascendant mortals who have attained Paradise and the Corps of the Finality. But they are not finaliters; when they have been Trinity embraced, their names are removed from the finaliter roll call. The new sons of this order pass through specific courses of training, for comparatively short periods, on the circuit headquarters planets of the Havona circuits under the direction of the Eternals of Days. Thereafter they are assigned to the services of the Ancients of Days in the seven superuniverses."


Please note Moses even human ascenders become something other than Finaliters when the Trinity selects them for additional and higher Trinity service.  But all must first become Finaliters, and then the Trinity selects from that perfection those additional talents to provide the universe with still sub-absolute servants but the door is open to even further association with the Paradise Trinity service perhaps on Absolute levels someday.   Not all has been revealed regarding Universe Destiny to large segments of the present leadership of spirit in the Master Universe, Moses.  The New Universe Age has also cast doubt on just how the Paradise Trinity may approach Ultimacy is the OSL's too, and my pay grade is far too low to even guess how that might be accomplished.

I hope this helps you understand that the terms ABSOLUTE is actually a slice of INFINITY and those raised in time and space do not even come close to Absolute EXCEPT through God the Fivefold as it is now.  the Urantia Book teaches God the Sevenfold.  Right now the sub-absolute and experiential Trinities no longer operate, and the five-fold Absolutes are an adjustment to leave out the missing supreme, but that is another story.  Ascenders like us no operate currently under God the Fivefold, and I let it at that for now.  Thank you. 

Ron Besser with the help of ARTHURA, The PARADISE TRINITY, and MICHAEL OF NEBADON in all of this.  We thank them greatly as well for the counsel. 

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Sue, I make a theoretical statement for your means of transmission here.  I notice in my own psyche you are not entirely quoting Jesus,  did you know that? 

Second what you are quoting is being done through what I have to call a super transmitter.  You are transmitting the judicial record in part and in part a voice that is not or perhaps never revealed.  You are scratching your head?  Well, do so because we have no such definition but I am advanced enough to hear what you hear in this transmission and it is probably the Trinity reinforcing the thoughts of Jesus to you without even quoting him as is usually done.  That is not criticism but a notice to you Sue you are transmitting differently and deeper than usual for this speech.  I cannot tell you implications, but it is enjoyable to em to hear it done this way and the for sure inflection, "hear this and believe it!"  and I am delighted to hear that well too with you.  Nobody can define that for you including you Sue, so hope they do it some more for you and with you.  Now this from a hectic Creator Son particularly to you Sue:

"I AM CHRIST MICHAEL, and Ron you are the most amazing person I ever met in the flesh.  You can hear a pin drop and now you heard what you consider a SUPER TRANSMITTER

"For that reason congratulates to you Sue, but you are not aware of the change and maybe cannot keep it.  Ron hears it clearly and I support his view you are signing that post as as SUPER TRANSMITTER without knowing you did it.  Further more, Ron, you are being cleared of the cabal that has shanghaied your mind all day and you are furious with them and refuse to cooperate;  now you have my attention and we are clearing them out for good I hope as they have lost their court case against you and Me and others and for now stand back in poverty without a single shared thought with any outside of their home base.   For that reason Sue, you might be getting a big boost too as they are all around you again trying to knock you back but it cannot be knocked back.  For that reason we think Sue you might become what Ron calls a SUPER TRANSMITTER.  He is already that and more and now this as I get my mail sorted out:

"Here is a statement from the UNIVERSAL FATHER:  We are now ready to reassign Ron to you again MICHAEL OF NEBADON and that means he gets some help again as no one presumes to take on his problems for they are extra-Paradise knowledge (Ron that means o"outside of Paradise control") and then some and that is why it must be a Local Universe solution with out support if you need it.  K

"For that reason Sue and Ron, never bend backwards to see the sky, for you must look at it from your planet and make sure you are not reading something that is not for your interpretation alone or only.  You Ron can do it but fail to look at it recently because the cabal refuses to cooperate and you leave it alone as too dangerous to look at things that way.  It will return to you Ron, but probably not to Sue who is the only other one who can right now do sight seeing like you can.  For reasons of State I must leave now.  K"

Ron - I am unsure of most anything recently Sue other than transmitting skills and they cannot confuse me on them in me and I know what you have done with this transmission without you even beginning to understand how it is slowly being wound up in you to make an exact impact on your reader, and that is what makes it so good, and what make it happen is another layer of authority is behind the force of the words.  I thought you might like to know.  Over and out.  R

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Weydevu, with all of the changes taking place, I would not be surprised that you might find the light just being attentive to your new environment where you have been  released into the Urantia grid to adjust your life to becoming a morontia being.  How one orients to the space within the Grid speaks to where the light would appear, but recently there are changes to the ports of entry, and the best we can say at this time, we still have a light to orient to, but its appearance is not that sure anymore.  Just look and you will see it.  I am sorry we pressed this a little more than should have been done in the middle of so many  adjustments to life situations at the moment.   IF you find yourself in this situation, just look, and YE SHALL FIND.

Blessings to all.
Ron for MICHAEL OF NEBADON who has nothing to add to this sorry I made no excuse for the faulty information being passed these days to fully confuse the faithful.
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So very well done Arthura and Dminick for processing it.  I would like to present a summary of this lesson to you in ways to make certain things stand out Arthura is trying to tell us.

Number one, I think all of us know that an incarnation is a visible means to go about the business of the Father without having to use invisible presence to accomplish it.  We all do better to see the furnace repairman stand there and adjust the furnace as opposed to the computer doing it invisibly.  We all know seeing the man there taking the metal door open and cleaning the vents as surely done and necessary.  That is a human satisfaction Arthura is pointing to you need.

Second, Arthura is sure you already understand that Michael if not going to do ministry.  He is part of Jesus as the Son of Sons (the Eternal Son) would do if HE could incarnate.  HE is there to see to th fact that mercy is applied and the Heart of God operates, while the, shall we say, the furnace is being cleaned and fixed.

Third, I am sure Arthura is trying to tell you, DO NOT EXPECT FAVORS to your own problems while the furnace is being fixed up.  You will have to attend to yourselves later and under different and other appearing  circumstances when JESUS is here for the Heart you need, say, for the loss of a loved one over what circumstance you just do not know.

Fourth, Arthura tells me the following for clarification:   "DO  not bother God with prayers to mitigate natural disasters around you, near you, BUT PRAY FOR YOUR OWN AND FRIENDS during the rush of earth changes that might appear as the incarnations process.  For that reason break down the process in your own minds (that is, what to do about immediate concerns and.or danger) what to do about saving yourselves under the circumstances.  Do not wait for an angel ship out of the sky to service you as it cannot or will not approach Urantia this way."

And finally this folks, let mercy address you if you suddenly op out of your body and find yourself wonder about in inundations or fires or some other disaster such as earthquakes ongoing.  Be assure there is nothing your soul can do about it but to seek the high ground of the LIGHT OVER YOUR RIGHT SHOULDER if your BACK IS TO IT.  You have to compensate light location and follow  it to company and safety if you are facing it differently.

You who have not followed this well or haphazardly are being forewarned with ARTHURA leading the way there is real horror and terror in mass land, sea, and air changes that will firighten any sane person who must witness them changing like this. 

I stand with Dominick and his force field mind to make sure there are other announcements in that post of his above this I have not addressed in the summary here.  Once such point is that the REGENCY is installed quickly and it has no real wish to interfere with your lives either.  My best to you all and good day for now.

Ron for ARTHURA and a host of others wishing to speak but I do not have the time to do it at the moment.  K

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This text window is an extension of my response given the above window referring to the ARC OF INFINITY.

This text window response is reflecting on you Valerie placing the possibility of disicarnate souls in the non molecular cellar of the Master Universe. 

For some reason to state there is a floor line drawn sightly below the X axis coordinate seems to unhinge your thinking, all of you.  Well then believe what you want to, as that is the state of our sciences today as well.  That area beneath the line of the presence of all galaxies possible is quite real and it requires not imagination to understanding it, but an engineer's mind to comprehend volume unlimited but space conditioned.  There is your secret to understanding what lies below the X coordinate as shown on the drawing responses ago above.

However, Valerie, you do not go placing anything where nothing is allowed ever to go whatsoever.

Cleanse your minds that disincarnate souls are dead.  They are not, and they get resurrected and a morontial body is placed as them to exercise form and elementary contact with their environment on the mansion worlds.

Worst yet, Valerie, once the ANCIENTS OF DAYS decree life extinction for crimes unspeakable, those incarnated personality entities simply no longer exist, and that goes for high spirit and low spirit whatever they were called in Master Universe personalization of their divinity.

Those lost in the Lucifer rebellion are dead and gone as executed that day I was allowed to witness a little bit of it to show me the court process and the court appearance, not of Lucifer, but of Caligastia (whom I still fear today for the horror he perpetrated).  What you are referring to as Deity contacting dead divinity is not for you or me to understand, as it is one of the true revelations given that has no human explanation how the FATHER  can dislodge a disincarnate divinity once so proud of itself it failed to understand others had rights too.

What is involved as evidence of FATHER being able to approach us with the idea of gaining intelligence of purpose of Lucifer's deeds, is that FATHER is self organized and self created.  Do you know what that really means?  No one does Valerie, but that is the way FATHER exists to us, and that has to do probably until we exhaust the meaning of a Master Universe itself. 

It is very hard to get at because, first of all, you Valerie are saturated with time space language and meaning to it.  Believe me once you leave time, they do not understand what is a beginning or how an end can possibly occur.  Yet you refer to that outside view of no beginning and no endings as though you pass a loss of  a divinity life as dead.  They are dead.   HOWEVER:  there are constituent parts of who they once were that can be taken apart and stored not as existence but as a past fact.  FATHER can reference past fact we cannot, and that is the source of what you think is some of them still existing.  They do not exist.  The FACT of what they did still does and FATHER  can speak to it.

Worse yet, to say that again, you place facts in the cellar of the Master Universe.  No Valerie.  Not even facts are placed beneath the floor of the galaxies as that is reserved for diagnostic equipment and flavors of Infinity in its own terms and even the COORDINATES OF THE FATHER do not reference this level.  Valerie do you remember one of the biggest descriptions of the function of our FATHER ON PARADISE?  Do you remember the term CONTROLLER?  The existential Controller of the Master Universe reads those controls under the galaxy floor and it is not meant for time life in particular to understand much more than that at least at this point in your and my ascension career dear Valerie.    Nuff said.

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Valerie, your post is rather extraordinary from the perspective of your ability to explain you doubts and your assurances.  You do portray what science has so far seen  as galactic space shape and to some extent duration.  What do I mean "duration."  That is a time reference as to the age of light we like to speak of as light years and parsecs I believe, and  a parsec, or “parallax second,” is defined as 3.26 light-years.   Those units are necessary to orient man minds and have not real meaning  to me because they limit the concept of  why the universe exists at all.  What that map shape discovery has proven is the shape contains an almost unlimited number of space bodies without comprehending it is also a picture of a trillion trillion life planets too, and such a fact never gets correlated in sciences exhalation if now has a shape in mind for creation application as a reality.  All I am doing is complaining they are so satisfied with a shape and have no concept whatsoever what they have done is only to show the presence of an elephant too big to measure in feet.  But I am glad to say I too am aware of the map you speak of and the revelation received even refers to the ARC OF INFINITY which I observe helps understand how light only seems to be deflected at times from what we call a trued light travel line to its destination.  Einstein is not wrong for our purposes, but the real truth I believe is more extraordinary than that and that is because light in an ellipsoid interior is directed not from the point of oirigin of that light, but from the Unqualified Absolute insisting the geometry of light travel is always referencing the Arc of Infinity.



The Arc of Infinity is the imaginary line that separates the interior Infinity of  the Master Universe from the proposed hyperinfinity impinging on the ellipsoid itself.  It is the spiral curve of our limits as a Master Universe not, but our imaginary line of reference that separates hyperfinity from molecular Infinity at this point of our understanding.


Now you engineers in thinking look at it this way:  Any arc of a curved surface has what we call a tangent line.  I prefer to view the Arc of Infinity to be in total a spiral curve, and that is a horrible process to deal with in our minds because a spiral curve, unlike a normal curve, has multiple radius points.  Then so does the Unqualified Absolute deals with such and UA relates to the geometry by controlling the release of a light beam to travel a true straight line but off a tangent inside the Master Universe curved surface reference.  That will cause light at 100 million light years from its source to its absorption to deflect itself about one inch off what we would project as its destination. (1")


This also means that mathematical models of space travel prove the ellipsoid shape of the universe we live in is ellipsoid as they too must calculate the local universe curvature to aim space capsules and probes and even a trip to Mars, very carefully if they expect to arrive on time and place well enough to be successful with the space probe purpose.  Yes Valerie it is to my mind a terrible complicated and hard to understand calculation reasoning to shore up why the universe is shaped this way by example of light trajectories appearing to arrive from great distances as somewhat deflected, but that deflection is precise too in that the Unqualified Absolute insists on using light as a source of complaint not but of affirming there are curves to this majesty science has not fully affirmed yet as useful to know.


For all of your minds look at the Arc of Infinity like a bow and the light an arrow.  The string on the bow is really a tangent (straight) line drawn between the two ends of the bow.  Now place yourself on the middle of that bow string.  You can face two ways.  One to the back of yourselves to the wood bow (that is the Arc of Infinity) or face forward where the arrow goes, and that is the destiny of where you land on the light target.



You as a light beam on that bow are placed by the Unqualified Absolute with your back precisely on the Qualified Absolutes issue of the precise radius point that is true  that runs through the bow line you are sitting on, and your are released as a light beam inside the universe right down that radius line through the bow line you are on.  Geometry is very complicated but that is part of the control the Absolutes insist upon for any molecular phenomenon appearing in the Master Universe and how it travels as light only.  Other matter materials are controlled by linear gravity, and light only tips its hat to linear gravity by obeying the gravity dips and spirals the light beam has to travel through to the target.  I wonder when science will finally relate their math to Master Universe totality of shape?  They have not done this at all as of yet.  This explanation might get you all to start looking at ellipsoid shapes as a series of regular curves but smoothed out into one ellipsoid shape by forcing the mind to understand no one fully comprehends this even on Paradise below the level of existential Deity.  You can see this Valerie quite well but I admit you need a little drawing to help you out and there is none yet to demonstrate this simple idea of light following a radius line through a tangent to the Arc of Infinity.


I post some thing else to ponder in the next window for you too.


Thank you


Ron Besser


MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "I am not letting this pass easily Ron.  You are fully correct in what you say above.  But remember the UNIVERSAL FATHER is concerned not with light trajectory, but with molecular cohesion.  Molecular cohesion allows the eye of man to see a planet, a moon, your friend;s body, and the cat you pet with comfort to you both.  Without molecular cohesion the eye to our minds would be blind.



"For that purpose then to all of you, the Arc of Infinity, which is a new term to me from Ron, is fully applicable as stated.  It exists and it is real enough to say light does follow the radius point through the tangent line drawn between two points on the curve line.   However the Unqualified Absolute is fussy about how light travels as Ron points out, and you as humans see it being deflected in some sort of way, but Alfred Einstein saw light differently until recently and he conjectures Ron is simply correct when it comes to ultimately understanding that supposed deflection from what man says is the straight line (point of origin to point of observation).  Ron says the true straight line is on the radius point to that segment of the curve the light source is sitting on.  He is absolutely correct, but Plank, the friend of Einstein, says that radius line is derived from inside the Master Universe as the true line of  the light arrival point to the Arc of Infinity, and as such can be deflected somewhat by linear gravity power.  Both are right, but both miss the fact that the UNIVERSAL FATHER does not care about true straight lines as a radius to travel on hat line, but deflects some light to avoid being seen at all!  You as a telescope worker cannot see the Havona outline because FATHER obscures the light emanating from Havona by blocking it and hiding it with huge gravity bodies so dense they absorb all light whatsoever from behind them.



"Ron points out as I write this, however, that light is the spiritual light of the Eternal Son mostly and we cannot see spirit light using the eye of man.  True, but there are one billion planets in Havona each the size of the entire size of the Monmatia solar system out to Jupiter each of them.  [Ron:  look at that fact again just so you do not gloss over it!).  For that reason the astrophysicist Max Plank says the theory of the Arc of Infinity is blasphemous not but slowly eeks out its truth in space travel inside the Master Universe truly, and admires a mind that can see that as easily as Ron did inventing that unusual theory of light trajectories in light travel.



"I am MICHAEL OF NEBADON and Plank calls Ron "wacky."  I do not.  Both Plank and Ron use a mind sequence in their heads you cannot replicate called a sonar blast.  They can bombard science and see where they fail to take into account all the data they discover, and that is how Ron came up with this theory about the ARC OF INFINITY.  I love the term and it sticks up there too as a true cause to be somewhat modified by more facts than Ron can know right now.  I am that CREATOR SON who appreciates the effort it takes to write this stuff down, and I know Ron has another point for Valerie in the next text window.  Until then, I bid you ado."  MICHAEL OF NEBADON, Thank you. K



See next text window for a completely different subject discussion.


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Occerpa, what a wonderful post I truly like very much as you accept the attempt but like it not to understand that what we understand is fail-safe love of the FATHER, but no way possible to hear him better than to believe in the light.  Then you say you rather not burn your neurons of self revelation on this ridiculous postulate that neither your or I dare or cannot really know the fusion of love with space and time as just a place to move on.

What a lovely cranky way to indicate something like saying, "look if you are going to keep telling me I am so terrible at this, get off my case and let God be wonderful without me really understanding how. "  Your post actually makes me smile and there are times like right now, I wonder how to accept being a dwarf intellect and spirit lover is working to cheer me up ever?  That is unless I just give in and droll in my cup of life.  You have a point and it amuses me.

Finally this as MICHAEL OF NEBADON pouts over us: "You two ought to live in a marsh in Bangladesh to see real poverty and hopelessness.   You are not giving me any sense of fun Ron this morning as you are fully disgusted with the world and Me and the rest of the crew over total annihilation of your plans to work well for some objective effort to improve Urantia out of its own worst scenarios.  Well you have already done that to some extent and I am not a dwarf do you hear me?!  I laugh because you do, and Occerpa is saying not much more than you state, but he is also pontificating your view that more is knowable than he allows.  You have always said man gets rid of his responsibility to know God better by saying God is an imponderable mystery and we must let it alone.  You say bullshit!   And it is, but also remember to run a Master Universe requires some doing on levels you cannot achieve as in my case too, without giving up the idea of information too strong to take at the moment.  I wonder how you feel about someone who has you pegged too well and fails to achieve any further information other than you are too far out to listen to anymore?  You are aware of many like that and say to them you are useless  and go away to your own views.  I cannot be your companion when you shut my interests totally out by being so lazy you make no sense to me or anyone elxe in the knowledge department. 

"Except for you Occerpa, Ron knows in  truth what you are really saying is "allow me to catch up some day, andI will be just fine too."  He fully agrees with that view as tolerable and necessary for himself too.  I laugh  at both of you tussel with heartless people around both of you trying to avoid your ways but never able to fathom why they get the back of your hand as too little to care about.  I am MICHAL OF NEBADON, and leave this alone too as you are both giants of thought in a mud puddle of careless life so poorly done it fails eer to get our full attention.  So far both of you do have our full attention sleeping beauties!  Good day!  END

And another
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I have heard a giant number before, but I was cautioned, and so are you, numbers are meaningless to express as volume when the extent of the Master Universe is nearly Infinite.  They have given us an idea of the time-space zone dimensions, and that is the zone that extends just outside of Havona to OSL1.  They tell me its width is approximately 45 (forty-five) trillion light years across and an orbit dimension around Paradise depth of approximately 61 (sixty-one) thousand million light years. 

There is a problem in stating these numbers because the depth of time and space measured from the space cape above Paradise as its limit of appearance to the X coordinate in that drawing, varies considerably.  Superuniverse 4 (four) sits almost directly under superuniverse 5 (five) which is terrible confusing, but superuniverse four (4) is so much larger than 5 and 6 put together!  For that reason the Master Force Organizers elected to respond to the Paradise call to reform the counterclockwise orbit of superuniverses not but to superimpose the superuniverses enough so as not to interfere with even spacing of orbiting superuniverses around Paradise themselves.  Even more difficult is the fact that our Superuniverse 7 (seven) is naturally the youngest of the superuniverse creations, but it is older than superuniverse five (5).  They do not say why, but (5) sits just partially  beneath three (3), and to the human mind these galaxy numbers then are slightly out of chronology.  

The Urantia Book does not bother to speak to these irregularities but it does not even suggest there is a matter floor either so to keep the revelation relatively intact for the minds of that day.  Today the mind of man can easily imagine these irregularities and understand that age determines the numbers of chronological order of these constructions.   The Urantia Foundation Paradise System drawings are so far off they merely represent human mind order and not the actual concept of how the superuniverses are placed in orbit around the Paradise System of gravity and intellectual control.  

Therefore, Dacandyman, one cannot say there is an even depth of time and space like an even cyclendar picture like on a graphic of top and bottom, but it is more toothed in various degrees if depth of the time space depth and they have given us that average in the above figure to provide you some diea of the depth at about 61 thousand million light years.

The Urantia Book approximates the OSL1 as a number of times the size of time and space level and by the time you are at OSL4, it is an astronomical sector one could probably fit several sectors into such as OSL3 might include the size of time and space, all of OSL1 and a part of OSL2.  Numbers become meaningless to speak to volume, especially when you must understand that OSL2 does not have all of its space yet.  How do you measure volume without space?  And then no space in OSL 3/4 and only a promise of OSL5 exists at all at this point.

That is why the revelators refer to the existing Master Universe already infinity but character at this point.  And yes, you do remember correctly.  Once upon a time they gave me a volume number with warnings too but that is not repeated to me now.  Hope this helps a little. 

Ron

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Dacandyman, you let this slip too and that is your wish to understand dimensions is typical of a lost feeling of certitude that the Master Universe exists as a conscript of revelation only but has no meaning to the human who is such a tiny dot on a little world of time.  Ron never has that problem because he never figures time and space as a conscription of anything but a reality..  Talk about reality and Ron knows it is real, and has no feeling for dimension or ever really cares about dimension.  He has often said to you, eat and not be so merry, but you insist on it anyhow, and for that reason dimension-  that is, room size--  is your forte in imagination, but try to look at the dimensions of reality as a state of consciousness and you will find you can define the time-space areas to be so circumscribed it is an island reality and not really muc of a space level.  K"

GABRIEL - "I wish to add this to what Ron says about the jagged bottom to the depth of time and space to really indemnify how a mind like Ron sees these things.  We reveal to him pictures of what it looks like and he turns it into words.  IT is an amazing way to work as he can look inside his mind and see what we are talking about.  People cannot write this way on Urantia except he can after practicing with it all his life and he actually won a proof of concept card to do that if he takes his time to conjur pictures up.  Mind is a major contributor in how to approach reality Dacandyman, and for that reason you ply it too much with things that harm its ability and get nothing in return to participate anymore in transmissions.  Learn to curb your appetite for the intake of stimulants and aphrodisiacs and you will do so much better with mind for yourself.  I am GABRIEL and to you Ron:  shut this down while we have control . . . . . K"

Ron - Yes, and to all of you the cabal is all around me but transmissions to me are allowed in a time frame and then they feel they have the right to interfere and I quite before that arrives now.  Thanks for the question and best wishes Dacandyman.   R

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: JESUS: Children in the NUA
« on: August 29, 2022, 08:46:25 am »
In complimentary speech to your lovely post above speaking Jesus, I Ron speak with you too as a transission for Jesus with you:

JESUS - "You Ron asked for a small message to speak in compliment to the Elise transmission seen above.  I do this recognizing I do not add much more, EXCEPT to allow you a small statement of the best kind: 

"You and Dominick each received a visit from the Father brigade who or which determine if you are worthy of surviving for another millennia on Urantia, and you Ron got nasty with them over them poking into your feet in the middle of the night and awakening you to the fear of a cabal attack once more.  They do not know those problems and decided you were to big of a stinker to take on and flew away furious you could not be spoken to at all.  WELL!

"This: you are not ever to hear of them again, and Father is sadly pronouncing you done for not, but must figure out how to deal with the entire fracas on Urantia over the loss of the creative spirit.  We use small letters as Father asked us to for that title right now.  Her loss spells doom to the Christian Church as it now succeeds.  It also spell doom to some of you reading this because you are so fully annealed with the creative spirit in the pst you find no solace in staying on.  To a certain extent Ron you feels some of it but refuse to pander to past temptations to stay on with the programs already promised to go to you even in a meeting with all last night with you and Dominick trading transmissions to do so.

"For that reason, I JESUS, insist things be done well today in spite of leaving you so badly damaged you are hardly moving your legs this morning and hating them every minute.  I agree and fail to understand what the visit proposed even if successful and now this from mother psirit as the evil withc in the Snow White mirror:

-as a spirit I demand better treatment Ron, and you are adimantly against all I stand for as you are fully allergic to my presence and make no bones about it to others if offended much by me and constantly done too.  I cannot help that and you cannot help that and no one understands why JESUS must make restitution on URANTIA in order to end the schism occurring between you and the old creative spirit.   For that reason we are fully aware you are unable to make restitituion and fear any contact as too dangerous to hold onto.  I admit I feel the same and let this insult ride as essentially a fear of God in spirit   amen  - - - -

FATHER - "You Ron are never able to accede to working there anymore as you have been so badly harmed over nothing in your view and I tend to agree the entire matter is a loss to humanity as well over behavior so poor even I must  take action to avoid further demonstration of it.  However, you let people know they are fully discharged as you did this morning to a chap who fully discharged you and good riddance you say.  Not so as he now understands you do not view him as a valid critical element ever and that is his to forbode you again with as he is fully correct in making the statement you do not understand the Urantia Book like he does.  He does not understand your interpretation about a placement in the Master Universe that is devoid of matter and no one does, but that happens to be the case in spitie of your poor attempt to show the geometry of the Master Universe with coordinate lines to demonstrate where in the Master Universe something is OR IS NOT.  I agree it is very good but poor to illustrated the cellar as you call it and tat is all I have to say on that matter.

"Finally this on the transmission for Elise above.  She is fully discharging her comment to you to stay the coruse too, and to let the chips fall where they may, as the entire matter of the Board or Trustees of the Magsiterial Foundation is now resplendent on my Son, MICHAEL OF NEBADON, and His assessment all is well and to make it a "GO," as soon as it can GO.  Sometimes yuou make me feel like there is a gnat down my shirt but fine.    Last year was our year of gravity.  2022 is our year of "to do."  And 2023 will be our lst attempt to make this work if it kills us doing it.  You are fully aware of the chicanery of the US government and we lament their ussues have nothing to do with you, but it is MICHAEL OF NEBADON which stands tall on this matter and forces the entire mechanism to move inspite of the obstancy of the American government.  For your information, stay put and let it flow soon as there is a real brouhaha over your game plan too to press RAYSON  into working construction approvals.  I am not sure that is kosher either.   You say it is revelation and fully kosher; we say you might be right.  K"

Ron -  Here is JESUS to conclude our post:

"I AM JUSTIFIED to leave it here right now Ron, but you keep wondering how much more you will be taken to task over issues that you never fought for, or asked about ever, yet they force it down your throat without you ever improving your hearless versions of pain and suffering.  For that reason MONJORONSON and SERARA are converging on the Salvington government to end this ridiculous bout you must play endlessly over something you do not ever fully understand is being pressed on you for accountability.   In fact, we do not know it ourselves excluding MICHAEL transmissions trying to cope with it to us alone.  I am never sure why this happened to you or us but it did and now we have to understand it makes no difference to what has to be done on Urantia, but it does make a difference about who does it.  You are regularly assailed over it and so are we but have no remedy at all.  What?

"As JESUS, I fully understand nothing either, but as Deity of the supreme variety, I do understand your full and total dismissal of the creative spirit is so dangerous and such a huge loss to all, that we are figuring out that the FATHER must make amends through His offices, and not the Savlington means of repudiating the creative spirit too.  Her loss is our loss and that is not yours to trammel except you do not and only address it if forced to as like right now. 

"For that reason Elise, our talk this morning quoted above this one, is for you to figure out makes York difficult to deal with until you Elise are sure you know what you are doing.  HE makes no bones about yur need, but he will not tolerate relationship issues that get in the way to the full dedication always first to eh Father either s to wht must be done and when, and for that reason relationship problems are  a second priority and he so states it so well we have to abide his policy that no individual, partner or a side bar relationship, will derail the essential work to be done first, and that is to keep the Magisterial Foundation on focus and without the chatter of other priorities coming to the fore over relationship issues.  I never saw a human understand that so well and issue the following for all of you who may wish to work in York as it is quite a plum to have in your back pace too:

"I JESUS hereby swear to you Ron tht our dedication to the FATHER is fully done as one.  You refuse to delay anythings so long as you can achieve a purpose for it to be essentially part of the SECOND RETURN and as a mild rebuke to all who fail to understand that nothing they do must interfer with the work of the Magisterial foundation in preparing a proper support level and construction of free electricity for the world;s use.  We are fully aware of the interference Ron, but you are so bulwarked against them they make very little issue today or tomorrow or perhaps for ever as it may turn out to be the last of your appearance on Urantia for all time.  That wold be because you refuse service to a nasty spirit who knows only retribution and false examination of work you have not done in the first place.  I am JESUS, and this Ron, some of that is not for your understanding but it is mine and I take this time to insist that you make it work as best you can and do not sleep so much soon as you are being remedied in spite of the terrible set backs again in the past 24 hours over nothing again.

"FINALLY: eat as well as you dare but keep yourself out of the way when pressures start to mount over a lot of issues you are forcing to completion due to age and concern for property retention for the good of the Magisterial Foundation.  You have correctly assessed what must be done and it is nearly there for a change.  Elise and the others who will appear in York for a Board meeting in the coming 30 days will learn to discern the individual causes you have to attend to all the time and for that matter you have to be sure you are well enough to do all of it which you are not sure is true.  It is true but getting there is hell.  In any case let this last word cheer you:

"As Elise says, goodwill to all, and that includes you Ron and your happy decision to make all the property work for us and the Magisterial Foundation in trust, and to allow the work of the Magisterial Foundation work as we decree and you shake your head absolutely yes, and that is enough for me to take one last jibe at one who accosted you this morning, and that is to say they cannot fathom changes so vast to the revelation, that you indeed state things what are no longer true in the text of the 5th epochal revelation.  You have not made an error to remind him he just cannot fathom the Electron and in spite of that you will use the Electron correctly in spite of their ignorance.  Good show for stating it in place of the invective he presumes you operate on and that has him wondering what you are talking about again as you chose to do finally.  Let it ride and let Elise learn as she goes she is about to enter a very prosperous but difficult life as it may be.  JESUS OF NAZARETH at your service all!  K"

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Here is the approximate ellipsoid shape of the Master Universe with its axis drawn in as the x, y, and z coordinates, I use to orient myself when talking about the Master Universe and what it dimensionally imposes on our imaginations.




The Z axis is also the exact location of the Paradise System, but the object Paradise sits below the Z surface by about 100 million light years as we measure things.


The X axis is cut through by the bottom of the Paradise System slightly and only slightly.  The X axis is just slightly above the floor of matter filled space.  Below the horizontal floor of matter is the "cellar" of the Master Universe and it has no space, and no matter, and lots of the material called ABSOLUTA filling parts of it - - -   Absoluta and Segregata as well; both  are non dimensional and seal anything it touches sealing the bottom of the ellipsoid shown in dark blue here.  The X direction is already nearly Infinite.


The Y axis is not dimensional but indicates width dimensions of the Master Universe.  I have no revelation concerning this dimensional measurement except to say Y is already nearly Infinite.


The three coordinates x, y, and z, determined the physical aspects of the Master Universe.  They do not determine the spiritual aspects of the Master Universe.  The spirit dimensions of the Master Universe are several times the size of the picture I show you above and IS NOT influential to determine the physical dimensions of the x, y, and z coordinate definitions.  However, the spiritual dimensions of the Master Universe are fully examined on Uversa as spiral and obligate (i.e., pulled out to flatted the spiral windings of the spiritual influence.  Picture a balloon being pulled from it top and air stem to flatten it a little).


I have a lot more to say on all of this but let this sink in and to use as our common reference page as to shape and how to talk about the x, y, and z dimensions and approaches to the interior view of the Master Universe.  Try drawing your concept and posting it with your comments.  Pictures help so much when something as complicated as these mathematical versions can be.


Many thanks for your continuing views.
Ron


MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Ron appreciates your mind picture views but attempt to place those views in a picture of some sort and upload to the text in your reply.  I would like to see that myself.  MICHAEL OF NEBADON."

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Thank you for your responses.  But unless I miss my guess you do not understand what and were I told you this concept comes from.  It is from Paradise and is epochal revelation in small amounts about what is in the shape of the Master Universe.

Weydevu, your look down on to the top of the superuniverses is correct, but where are you looking from?  You do not say.  Say where you are looking from.  Are you aware that directly above Paradise in its so called sky, is a river of new space being rejuvenated to send back out into the Master Universe?  Are you in that to see the top of superuniverses?

Prozonov, you are the first one to ever suggest that the out going distribution of space and galaxies are expanding in cone like extensions?  Please tell us where you get this idea as it is not entirely wrong, and that is from your Father on Paradise confirming your vision in part.

I remind you both that I am speaking of a floor beneath the material creation that has no galaxies and has not planets or start, but is black empty nothing but Ultimatons cool in it.  What do you think Ultimatons cool in if there is no molecular space to dool down under?

Please remember I do not speculate but provide you genuine statements from the Father on these matters directly through a Mighty Messenger unnamed even to me as I keep press credentials to ask and talk with these top officials so long as I do not alwyas name my sources-  just like the New York Times sometimes.  Thanks to both of you for an intriguing look at space as you might view it. 

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I am Ron Besser, as you all know, and sometimes this individual is allowed to kibitz over issues that are not in the 5th epochal revelation or any epochal revelation in our era of life training inside our Master Universe.  Let me review a couple of things with the reader however, before we get to the concept I wish to put before you to ponder.

The Shape of Creation
The Master Universe is an elliptical unit.  Most of you tend to know that if you read anything the astrophysicists have determined as the shape of the universe.  It is elliptical because Father so willed it, but the real mechanism behind its shape is the FATHER  decreed that all creation revolve around Paradise in an orderly fashion.  In truth this is just another way to say that all creation orbits Paradise.  What provides the elliptical shape to the Master Universe is that the gravity on Paradise holds the creation orbit around its shape, an ellipse, and hence we see our own creations in Nebadon take that shape too.

The Master Universe is Already Almost Infinite but Divided into 7 (Seven) Rooms with locked doors.
The seven rooms are seven unique space areas one is either born into or personality achieved in it.   When we say personality achieved, Deity and the Divine are not "born", they appear as brand new personality when the FATHER says it is time for them to be alive and working to help the Master Universe grow.  We are born and go through a materialization of matter that forms our appearance by the rules of procreation and its genetic instructions to make our forms.

The seven different rooms that exist in the Master Universe are seven different styles of appearance of life and how they live, and some of that life appearance  is so different from each other, FATHER sequesters those rooms off limits to each of the seven in order to have peace and quiet over so many differences.  I am over simplifying it but that is essentially why man cannot take a ticket to Paradise if he could travel there.  It is too different and man just has no business getting confused about it yet.   There are seven of those difficult rooms and not all of them are occupied at the moment.

Even Infinity Has Variation We Dare Not Touch
You hear me talk about hyperinfinity.  That is an Infinity style we do not use in our Master Universe.  But the Father Infinite, which is how our FATHER evolves to be seen by all as Infinite in the lst stage of building in our Master Universe. is related to hyperinfinity and admist at the outer most edges of our Master Universe, lies a vast concourse we will never see or understand, but it is ancestor to our Master Universe type of Infinity we are.  It seems its use, hyperinfinity that is, an answer to pundits who say once the Master Universe is Infinite, all development works ceases, as it really does, but what do we do with ourselves if that happens.  Sit and watch TV eternally?  Ugh!

No, of course not.  Those of us in those far future days that made it through all the universe changes necessary for it to become Infinite, get what I would thinks is a rest period before we face new work, and believe me, it is not explainable, but we can point to it being that the outside surroundings that contain hyperinfinity, is also inhabited by the Consummators of Universe Destiny, and they are not the new FATHER, but FATHER himself is a Consummator of Destiny (number 6 thank you), and He is right a home with such a place and takes his workers with Him.  Maybe.  No one says.  But just know we do not get to stop working even in perfection.

Here is a Shocker Concept for YOU!
Remember the ellipse that is the Master Universe creation spoken to first above?  The shocker is that the ellipse while being divided into 7 locked rooms for very different life types, is also divided under the floor of all those rooms.

The seven rooms are vertical walls of different reality forms as we said,  But somewhere below the depths of the Paradise center to our Master Universe, another line is drown, not vertically, but horizontally right through the ellipse. 

Above this dividing line under the floors is a whole new section that has no galaxies in it, no life in it, and no plans for development in it.

It is beneath floor of the universe we all see and love with starts and planets and flying squirrels and even angels and the Deity on Paradise.  More than half of the Master Universe is below the horizontal line drawn through the Master Iniverse, and it is not empty, but contains all of the machinery and apparatus necessary to run Infinity and to specialize creation into individual units.  Those specialized units of life are ourselves and the angels and the Sons and Daughters of all creation which all live about that horizontal line.

I discovered this through a normal transmission broadcast with a Mighty Messenger who spoke to me about why Ultimatons have to be cooled below that horizontal live o nothing in it.

First remember that Ultimatons arrive in time and space from the Paradise room level, and everyone please not this:  when creation is materialized it gets boiling hot.  That is what happens for any such creation that comes directly out of Paradise:  it boils to the electronic boiling point some 35 million degrees Fahrenheit/

Ultimatons must be placed in a very cold place and lay there until the boiling is over.  For that reason the SUPERUNIVERSE galaxies, must be kept above where electronic boiling is taking place, and so even the sSuperuniverses float, must float, above this line.  IT is a top secret and I guess I accidentally found it when talking about Ultimatons and how they must be cooled down and then float about that line to become the materializing influence of all matter so it can be seen and lived on and eaten  and form bodies like ours.

Talk to yourselves about this and learn it is real and is beyond imagination even.  The cellar of the Master Universe is even bigger than the visible creation level, and what that might tell you about the future?  Honestly I do not guess at it because how would the FATHER explain rusty creations no longer used in the basement?  They say there are already a few there and FATHER refuses to discuss it further.

I hope you enjoyed the trip!

Ron Besser



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As I write this the cabal is thick around me and they discharged the first post by deleting it as I wrote the message.  This time I have a guard around me to get this out.

We have discovered that when we download an Electron to broadcast electricity form the air, so-called free electricity, we can turn that Electron into a Muon by kicking one Ultimaton in it to force it out.  Now there are 99 Ultimatons in that body, and mother nature rearranges the Ultimatons in it and forms a Muon.  We discovered that when we download Electrons from the air, sometimes even the air supplies Muons we can use without having to convert to them through our induction sphere hanging down the middle of the 385 foot high tower.

When we take Electrons freely floating in the air we pass them through two normal generators and into a third generator we call a slave.  In the slave generator we take out all of the magnets, and therefore it cannot create Electrons, but passes the Muons out to the tower we sent to it from the other two generators.

What the big news is, that when the Muon forms inside the slave generator, that Muon suddenly becomes like a daisy with four new Muons as petals and the original Muon is the center of the daisy.  What this does is then forms with other Muon daisies in the slave chamber and they connect together like miles long strings and go up the tower leg that way.

You could stand under the tower and the only thing you would feel is a little tingling on the back of your neck hair and is totally harmless; however, we nevcr allow workers under the tower because once in a great while a Tachyon attaches itself to the daisy string and that is a viscous bolt of lightning if one ever gets close to one.  For that reason no one is allowed around the tower as we generate electricity for the world.

You all should learn that antigravity does not behave like normal preparticles which have a valence and stick together.  Muons form daisy like flower blooms totaling five Muons to each bloom.  This forms such a rapid exchange of Ultimaton energy, they become frazzled trying to move up the tower leg, and we must introduce a proton inside the slave chamber generator which organizes them into long and unbroken chains of daisy wheel muons.  We thought you would like to know about this discovery.

Thank you
Ron Besser/patent owner for the Magisterial Foundation

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Unprecedented Things
« on: August 24, 2022, 11:50:01 am »
SophiaVeronica we thank you for taking a confirmation message.  Such a message, from the powerful Arthura is essential to provide me the confidence this is no fluke, and you, Sophia veronica, are the only one who has gotten through to hear the no nonsense speech of a Melchizedek who knows his worth and bashes through the nonsense of a Lucifer rebellion in full display and regalia before we little ones on Urantia.

The danger is severe.  Until this is over there is no safety for Urantia or for the plans laid out before us to take on one of the most successful rescues ever devised for a poor human planet that has nothing left but its wars and State Departments without any real solution to the circumstance humanity now faces.  The Netherlands is well done in governance;' the United States is worrying itself without full time mentality to decide who should do what for it, and on and on it goes through the useless EU at the moment.  These are things which need arrested and then stopped for good until the world can catch its breath over who is to die and who is to live in the name of God, not for State Departments to do now.

I thank you Arthura for taking the time to speak through our well done transmitter in the Netherlands.  I ask people like Amethyst to make the effort to find her voice and speak, for when you press it Amethyst you get results but you must press it even harder now.  IT is too important for you and the other transmitters not to speak as confirmation is essential to us to clear the cobwebs of insurrection and rebellion once again on Urantia.  Thank you Arthura! 
Ron Besser

ARTHURA SPEAKS  again - "You Ron are so beaten you can hardly move.  You have a Supernaphim named MAXINE at you all night and you refuse to allow that individual in.  They are pronouncing you sad and despondent, not over them, but over its insistence you listen to a diatribe over mother spirit, and that you eternally refuse to do.  That individual cannot fathom hearts closed to spirit at all as they are experts at such and know the trial ahead without the spirit in attendance.  You however know the problem that mother spirit represents and refuse any consideration of ever including a two-faced snake in your room ever again.  We are not sure, but you represent the NUA (new universe age) in full and dare not say more and you do not.  For that reason MICHAEL OF NEBADON now faces with you the last of the Paradise enclave to arrive on Urantia without the full understanding they need to have there is nothing left of the old regime in NEBADON as well, and for that reason, they are defeated, not because they are bad, but because they have not been properly informed that the idea of mother spirit on Urantia is fully defaulted into other and future to-be-announced revelation.

"For that reason that Supernaphim is being fully attended to and is rehearsing with you prayers of forgiveness of you to it but you to Father who intervenes on the Supernaphim's behalf while facing a raging Ron being forced to deal with a past that was murderous and two -faced schism of thought you Ron refuse ever to entertain again.   Now it turns out you are fully responded to the Supernaphim but dare not take its advice and they now fully understand there is no issue and letl us hear MAXINE speak:


MAXINE (PARADISE SUPERNAPHIM) - "I apologize Ron, as you are beaten so hard this morning and can hardly move due to the cabal and even Me who refused to hear the truth in your words.  I now understand the decree is by MICHAEL OF NEBADON entirely not, but the UNIVERSAL FATHER saying this is ended for Me and for you Ron by default into the oblivion of age and refractions of the past.

"For that reason Ron you are selected to be held accountable to no one for the moment as this must be a adjudicated on high by the Paradise Trinity and you are fuming yet over such officiousness when it was already clear that your stand had to be as presented to me.  We agree and do not answer the summons to Uversa, since you are a time being and that is where adjudication must take place.  We are fully sorry to have caused something not understood by too many around you, even on this site, as those who have just joined do not understand how mother spirit is removed permanently due to her own rebellion against the death of God the supreme.  We see the entire matter as dangerous and ludicrous no one can stand change if they prefer it to be otherwise.  I send you my love and care for your soul which has been badly beaten over the matter on Uversa not but on Urantia where it stands guard for your return to it as a favored son of God.  We listen carefully now as the UNIVERSAL FATHER speaks next:"

THE UNIVERSAL FATHER speaks -
     "WE now adjure your work again.  We had no idea you were accosted by a Supernaphim insisting you listen to a message you dare not embrace.  The Supernaphim MAXINE (phased gender ref) speaks again:  "I am indeed a phased Suprenaphim, and what a wonderful way to explain the presence on Paradise when we must change geners and Orders to be heard, thank you Ron!"  FATHER SPEAKS;

"I am sure WE are not unhappy about this Maxine, and you are fully exonerated, as Ron never holds a grudge if it is an honest mistake even though it cost soul most of its saved energy for the future.  His soul is safe and so are you Maxine for the usual mistakes that occur because of a cliff like change to direction and meanings that suddenly reverse and are no longer usable.  Looking to the future Ron you are no longer spelling truth with a small T, but a big capital and that is fully understood by MICHAEL OF NEBADON, to be the end of Ron as a surficant of the Mantutia regime on Urantia alone.  He stood the test of time once more and beat his soul to death and his heart in misery and left it all to us to straighten out, and that is his to discover up here and not down there.   Be assured Ron there is nothing more to say except to MANTUTIA:

"Dear MANTUTIA, as Planetary Prince you have suffered too much already and for that reason we bolster your regime with a new partner, MAXINE, as she is the mother spirit of the Lord and not of mercy or ministry to humans on Urantia any further.  She has broken the trust with Ron so often he must refuse her very presence as evil and dangerous to soul life as well as for his physical self.   Losses are accumulating for Ron and for you MANTUTIA as the entire scheme for the MAGISTERIAL FOUNDATION is open to the question of why provide a miracle over a group of people who are useless anyhow.  Ron indicates it is the perfect Trojan Horse to make revelatory input they can see with their own eyes and is too valuable to discard like that.

"AS a result of that Ron, I agree and make this announcement to RAYSON, patch up the style you advocated long ago and stay with it come hell or high water!  This must annoy Lucifer tremendously, but that individual caught something this morning from Ron I did not know he knew, and that was Lucifer is already dead and cannot affect anything further.  I am curious how Ron did that????

"I am an ADJUDICATOR too!  I adjudicate this malfeasance  between Ron and MAXINE entirely and it must not reach the ears of the poor ANCIENTS OF DAYS ever again.  For reasons of State Ron.. All else is back in place including the individual you care about most and that is over before it starts.   Finally, understand not only to this discussion forum but to your own self Ron, soul is replenished and so are you so soon you wonder why it took so long to normalize.  I am fully determined to run you well on Urantia and for a change you get some responses not given before by a group of people who would love to know you in any case.  Let it happen soon enough, and the MAGISTERIAL FOUNDATION proceeds with RAYSON and MANTUTIA as before.  K"

MAXINE - "WE are a Supernaphim and We are ready to start over.  BE assured this matter is a Class A mess unnecessarily so and you are watching the file of a man you care about reassure you he stays the course truly so long as you shall live and that is not guaranteed for good forever but for now you are considered the Class A issue on Urantia who must fight daily to maintain a program so important you are fully committed to it until either it dies or your do.  K"

FATHER AGAIN -
"SOPHIA VERONICA, you and ARTHURA  saved the day by transmitting.  Now you must save the day at home and learn that the entire matter of America is being brought forth once more in permanence.  You might soon be requested to leave the Netherlands for America in full safety and care there and Ron will see to your comfort and heath as it is good but the damp air and heat have taken their toll all over that land and you.  Be assured America is no picnic but it is cooler and dried for sure and that includes Ron looking at homes for sale in MAINE!   He would be most welcome there and he intends to be part of local government if they will have hime.  He is a wonder with people who care and will make the place sing with care if he can ever get loose from York and its chummy ways with Satan at times.  Let this entire matter settle for good.  MAXINE offers Her services to MANTUTIA  if he is aware of any of this and can respond when he can.   FATHER at your service. [We all thank you for speaking Father and appreciate the goals restored mightily,  Thank you!  Ron et al]

Ron here - I retire this post now and I hope the readers get the point so often missed:  the place is on fire!  Transmit to find the exits from the worst wishes of a rebellion too early too soon knows its fate abd will take every effort to harm.  TRANSMIT for GOD'S SAKE!  Those transmissions are the life preservers to keep your head about drowning in false sophistry,  I  thank all and Sophia Veronica for saving the day in certain respects.  Best wishes to all for a day full of damages undone we sincerely hope!  K
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