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(transcriber note - clarification of what was meant in Michael of Nebadon's last statement was provided by Ron, therefore what is heard or not heard is different than the transcription.)
  • 120422 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser
  • Subjects: demoting those who are in rebellion, how humans should deal with problems arising from rebellion, revelations are coming soon, another human species beyond homo Spiritus, another form of transmission accomplished via a type of walk-in, the insurrection is also in a small quadrant of Uversa, Machiventa has resigned in order to complete a report, there is an aspect of Paradise Trinity insisting upon SOP, all Missions to Urantia to be in full power very close to Christmas day, rasterizing is appearing overhead - optimization energy of The Father; Speakers: Tarkas, Michael of Nebadon, Jesus, Arthura, Cabal, and Universal Father
  • Transcribed By: RAZ
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20221204_110317

Ron Besser  
Hello, everybody. This is Ron Besser. Welcome for the December 4, 2022, Light Line Sunday. We have 22 on the conference call, our usual streaming has come up and gone down. I don't know how we're ever going to get that to work again. And also, I beg your pardon for being silent for so long. Right in the middle of the dial-up I had a message come in on a discussion forum, I am not familiar with that was addressing WTP and to me. I am unfamiliar with it and I took the time to read it and I'm still not sure what I've got there. But that was my deflection and I apologize for being quiet for so long.

Tarkas  
Now, this is Tarkas. Ron.

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you, Tarkas. Welcome to confusion.

Tarkas  
Thank you, Ron, I fully feel it up here as well. The truth of the matter is, you know, the discussion forum, but never saw any responses to it.

Ron Besser  
Oh, months ago. Yes.

Tarkas  
For that particular reason, your subject is running hot. But there is no one responding from you for the simple reason, you have no easy way into it because your code word and whatnot have been compromised.

Ron Besser  
I see. Well, I guess that makes sense, Tarkas. What's new? Today and yesterday have been hell.

Tarkas  
Yes, in many respects. Now this: I am Tarkas and today's Light Line was proposed to Ron yesterday afternoon as being likely to be held, but also likely to have a problem, not only with technology but also with a confusion that another, shall we say revelation has caused.

Ron Besser  
Dominick, your email to me with your transmission is a brand new revelation. I assume you understand that. But it's pretty extraordinary. I'm not going to go into that one because I have no background on it other than what Arthura has said to you. We will hold that for later. Thank you, Tarkas. You are about to tell me exactly what, regarding what we're going to do today.

Tarkas  3:00
Thank you, Ron. We are most happy to inform all of you that the Sunday Light Line now is a fixture where planets wish to hear what is going on, on Urantia. Nothing much right now, but it will be. Today we are now entertaining 24 on the direct call, about five of you are on the streaming audio on the internet. That is a very good and precise way to tune into these broadcasts. The one called Charles has not been able to ascertain why the streaming article will not be fixed. He recommends it be taken down but is on the road again. You wish it to be taken down?

Ron Besser  
Yes. There is nothing but a problem with on-again and off-again transmission.

Tarkas  
Thank you. So it will be relieved.

Ron Besser  
Yes, rather than trying to keep it going.

Tarkas  
Thank you. Now this: Charles is also indicating to spirit that he can no longer maintain the maintenance of these sites due to new responsibilities. He now is going to refuse any further investigation into how to get to the websites you are running right now and Dominick you need to get to him and the means of obtaining what websites we have running now under your own control.

Ron Besser  
Yes, Tarkas. I am noticing an anomaly in the transmissions, ah, it's as though we are being forced with gaps. Have you anything to say?

Tarkas  
Yes, I do. Ron, it's this: there is a cabal near you that is forcing the issue so strongly that Michael of Nebadon is preparing for their demise. I'm not going to say anything further about it.

Ron Besser  
Well, I probably can tell Tarkas when this lets up on me.

Tarkas  
Yes. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon. Ron, thank you. You're feeling it as a harsh pressure on the brain, and big gaps in transmission?

Ron Besser  
Well, silent markers. Yes. I know that that is not normal and that it is punishment and I refuse to deal with it if I can get out from under it.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. We fully appreciate the comments. Now this: you're also being forced in your throat, with a strong indicator to make you choke.

Ron Besser  
Yes, it's very strong.

Michael of Nebadon  
The truth of the matter is, that is a particular cabal member who detests you.

Ron Besser  
I'm sure the feeling is mutual squared.

Michael of Nebadon  
Its true. Thank you. And now this:

Ron Besser  
And I'm being forced into a blank. Just a minute.

Universal Father  6:39
This is Father. No longer, that individual is history. Thank you, Ron. Continue with Tarkas.

Ron Besser  
Oh, thank you. Tarkas, is it you or Michael?

Michael of Nebadon  
It's Michael Ron.

Ron Besser  
They got in.

Michael of Nebadon  7:02
The truth of the matter is that the cabal around you, Ron has been reinforced by other insurrectionists, including the Lucifer rebellion. Yesterday was sheer hell, today is not much better. You are noticing that anything that has a chance to go wrong, fall down, or break has done so. That is not your fault. We are taking care of that right now. Now for information on what we want to achieve with today's broadcast, the entire matter of the issuance of the Christmas tree in Ron's household was taken care of last night by Dominick; who lit the tree, and it's beautiful. But Ron says something's missing and they decided it was the skirt. Anyhow, why we're telling you this is he is the first one to put the tree up this year, among all of you. And if any of you have put it up today, we beg your pardon. In any case, the whole effect is to soften the view of those who have the tree. They are so lovely. Put one up, even if it's a teeny tiny little one.

Jesus  8:50
This is Jesus. Ron, you are being pressed emotionally and intellectually to stand down. But you can't when you're connected in a liaison like this one is the truth of the matter is there is no retrospection for anyone who got into the cabal and refuses to leave now. Your fate is sealed. What we want to do today though, is to be of some cheer. What that cheer should be is that I am secure in what I need to do to see you soon. I will. But I'm not going to talk about it in front of these thieves and blasphemers. That's not you folks, that's the cabal and the insurrection. They don't learn. Ron calls morons. But I do want to tell you this, the entire matter that is suspended not has to do with my choice to obtain sanity once more on the surface of this planet. Yesterday, Ron had some errands to run and Dominick helped him. They had a terrible time getting synchronized. And when they did things kept going wrong. Today, Ron has the same thing. He's quite sure the entire matter is to be settled elsewhere. But before we go elsewhere, let me tell you this. I am Jesus. I have looked forward to this for millennia. And now it's being sullied by an attempt by a cabal in particular, who hates my guts. I'm like Ron, if I could get my hands around their throats, they would be dispatched. The truth of the matter is, they are no longer beautiful Seraphim or Sons of God. They have been demoted outside of their order. Ron recommended it and we fully agree with the idea. When you rebel, you're not born in your order any longer. You become a separatist and you better have a good reason for being so. Now this: the truth of the matter is that Ron and a few others of you have already set into motion those things which will help to recognize free electricity, WTP. For that reason, I know a couple of you join this in order to hear what in the world is going on. Well, we'll tell you. The Department of Energy has asked for a total and complete review of the patent once more. The Patent Office has refused because it has issued it. The Department of Energy is furious. The Department of Energy thinks it's in charge. Actually, Ron and you are in charge. The patent itself will be on its way shortly Ron. And he said morontially, thank God. And for that reason, you will be sitting duck when your attorney arrives fully apologetic for not getting to what is essentially a life-saving issue legally with the Magisterial Foundation, yourself, and your estate. It is substantial, and it must be taken care of carefully. The patent itself is probably worth somewhere around a trillion dollars. That's what it will take to build the basic network for new electrical dispensation. We are quite sure that once it is understood and how you achieve it, you will be the gift to Urantia for Christmases to come. All of you who have donated and who have helped in many other ways are gratefully acknowledged not only by us but by Ron who could not have done it without your help and your donations. We still need more. We're spending money hand over fist to get these patents fully achieved. Now for what is happening at your door Ron. Let them be. They do not have to have an answer. No. Just let them be.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, the doorbell just rang.

Jesus  
Right now this: stay with the transmission. I am Jesus. And for that matter, Ron, we are now going to close down anything you're doing with your maintenance on the property. It is over, they must leave and they are saying goodbye. Talk to them later. And finally this: the entire matter of these days, and what goes right and what goes wrong is a mess to you, Ron, and to poor Dominick. The result is confusion, not in either of you but the determination to get the work done is a result of your intentions and Dominick. The cabal saw to it that you've got a serious glitch in communications right now. For that reason, I doubt you will find your phone but be of good cheer another one will appear. And finally this: the cabal that is operating at this time, above all your heads is to warn you that they will not tolerate any further disturbance or discussion concerning the appearance of Jesus Christ or the appearance of WTP. They have made the fatal error now of demanding a cost to get them back. Well, we have a surprise for them. They are no longer available for anyone or anything. We'll let that go for the moment. I think we can report on it later. But right now

Ron Besser  
Lemuel, are you there? Just a minute, let me unmute you. I've got to get to that door they keep ringing it. If I can find your name here, here we go. Lemuel, can you hear me?

Lemuel  
Yes, I can hear you, Ron. Yes.

Ron Besser  
Are you up to transmitting?

Lemuel  
Well, I will try to sit on the throne. Thank you. Okay.

Ron Besser  
Because I've got to get to that door.

Lemuel  
Okay.

Ron Besser  
I'll be back in about five minutes. Thanks.

Lemuel  
All right.

Ron Besser  
Go ahead.

Lemuel  
Ah, I can't remember if, in fact, the last transmission through Ron was from Tarkas or from or from Michael. But it is it doesn't matter I'm just opening myself up anyway. So please bear with me for a moment, because I'm not really 100%,  but. Yes, well, what I'm picking up, I don't know who it is, but that doesn't matter. What I'm picking up is that:

Arthura
The result of all the shenanigans going on between the Luciferian and the cabal and, and all the rest of it, it is playing havoc not only with Ron but in fact across the board. People are being affected, relationships are being affected.

Lemuel  
And I can tell you that from personal experience now. I am not suggesting for one moment that what I experienced last Tuesday night was a deliberate act on their behalf. I do not know. But I fell down and severely hurt myself. Which is no joke when you're 83 years of age. And I'm still recovering. I'm only mentioning this because yes, I don't know who I am transmitting but:

Arthura  19:34
It is emphasized that this is taking place primarily with those of the light who are for Jesus, who are for Father, or for Michael and Gabriel, etc. Well, that, of course, is us now here on the forum. All of you, all of us I want to say. Yes. Well, the simple answer the simple solution is to try as far as possible, to ignore it. As the song goes, pick yourself up and dust yourself off and start all over again. Yes, we will always do that, because, in fact, there is no alternative. Because if you go down and stay down, that means that the opposition has won, and they're not going to win, except over my dead body. Well, that leaves something else. And so dear brothers and sisters just be careful. Do the best you can under the circumstances. And just keep going. All right. Now this, this is not. Yes. Okay. This is not just your private safety, this is relationships. So if you are having problems with your wife, or your husband, or your children, or your parents, or whoever it is, more than is normal within a family atmosphere. I can tell you now, it is the opposition. Tying to divide and conquer is their method, even on a family basis. Yes. So just be aware of that. And this calls for more patience, and understanding on your behalf, of course, well for all of us. Yes. The other thing is yes, I'm being reminded to please, please, to pray and especially to keep in touch as much as you possibly can, with your indwelling Father fragment your Thought Adjustor, because it is vitally important, not just for now, but for always, as long as you are here on this earth. But yes, I am mentioning that because of the situation, let's face it, when the chips are down, everybody, whether they believe or not, if they are facing something really severe, the first thing they do is offer up a prayer. There is something inside everyone and we all know what that is. But no one needs to wait until they're in that circumstance, of course not. And we here or you here on the forum, are not of that ilk. But nevertheless, I want to remind you to pray and try to be ever-conscious of the presence of your beloved Father, in you all. This is so vitally important. Yes. And to give thanks for every day that you're still here. Because whilst you were still here, you are helping and this is what the opposition doesn't want. But this is why it is so important that you do not go down. You stay here and fight until the end. All right.

Ron Besser  
I'm here Lemuel when you're ready.

Lemuel  
Okay. Okay, Ron, I don't know who that was. Whether it was Michael or whether it was Tarkas. I don't know. But I just took it as it came. Thank you. I'll hand it back to you now. Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
That was, by the way, Arthura.

Lemuel  
Okay. Okay. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Lemuel, I may be back. But let me take it from here.

Lemuel  
Yeah, okay.

Michael of Nebadon  23:48
Yes, everybody. This is Michael of Nebadon. And what we must discuss is a very hurried way of telling you that are several major revelations about to appear. First of all in print, and Ron will take care of that. But second of all, there is an additional concern I meant to add to Arthura's transmission to Dominick this morning. That the entire matter of that question Ron needs to be unskewed just a little bit.

Ron Besser  
Well, it's an amazing revelation.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. And for that reason, you're

Ron Besser  
Yes, that's why I haven't mentioned it.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. The truth of the matter is that that is fully available to anybody up here but totally unknown to Urantia.

Ron Besser  
Well, the Urantia Book itself, states emphatically the truth, but there is an underlying foundation.

Michael of Nebadon  
Truly, beautifully put. Now this:

Ron Besser  
Of course not Arthura, that was very brave to do in three paragraphs. And I take it the cabal is back?

Universal Father  
No, Ron, I'm clearing the way. This is Father. You Ron are circumspect enough I enjoy your means of escape. But I want it to be understood that the dictation this morning was unusually kept to a very small and minimal discussion because of the conditions that we find at 3131.

Ron Besser  
Father, may I question something?

Universal Father  
Certainly.

Ron Besser  
What is with this transmission? Is Jesus standing right beside me?

Universal Father  
That is the case!

Ron Besser  
It's extraordinary people. Yes, go ahead, Father.

Jesus  
This is Jesus now, Ron. Where do you pick this up?

Ron Besser  
It's almost impossible to tell you. I know there is a difference in the transmission. And it is as though I am thinking it rather than dictating it.

Jesus  
Almost. Fully understood, Ron, I have never tested it before. But you are speaking me. You, when connected in liaison with me Ron, are my mind, you're using the mind of Christ. And for that reason, you are speaking it as though you originated it.

Ron Besser  
Yes, it's a most unusual feeling, Jesus. Thank you.

Jesus  
My god, you're good. And this: and you said also almost dead. Truly. We all will not allow it, Ron. In any case, the people who are working on your lot today are moving on and will not be seen for months and they need money.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, yeah. I've been told that.

Jesus  
And the truth of the matter is you're tired of writing checks.

Ron Besser  
Endlessly.

Jesus  
Yes. Now this: the property itself looks great. But you are worn down to a nub over the responsibilities, not only of WTP, the Magisterial Foundation, but making sure that people are copacetic and understanding something about what you're doing. The truth of the matter is that overunity, that's the name of the site, is ready to hear you fully and clearly. But you have been struck back by the cabal, by hacking your code word, and the ability to get back on the site. Attempt to get back on. That came in the middle of the device you use to do this transmission.

Ron Besser  
Yes, folks, it covered it over. As a result, I was silent trying to get back.

Universal Father  
Truly. The use of terminology up here is different than down there. But let me be clear, this is not Jesus. This is his Father, and yours too Ron.

Ron Besser  
Oh, really, I don't feel that old.

Universal Father  
The truth of the matter is: you and Jesus and a few others on this site are now being prepared to speak Jesus as he would speak. That is not transmitting folks. That is almost an incarnation. Yes, Ron just asked me, may we use the terminology - walk-in? You certainly may.

Ron Besser  
Would you care to explain it that way, Jesus?

Jesus  29:55
Yes. Thank you. Years ago you had a fashion to speak of star people walking in and being part of the human pattern on the planet. Meaning that they could walk in and walk back out. Well, guess what? That was a fashion, today it is real. You've got two transmitters that are working on this site right now, that can take a walk-in. The walk-in of Jesus is really my incarnation through another, I can do that. The walk-in to another of you is more difficult, I failed to get complete synchrony. But with Ron, I do. What I just did made him lightheaded and he felt as though the path's sides had expanded out of his side view. That is human senses, trying to tell him what it can't tell him. And that is that there is an open consciousness that is impossible to describe. in your own normal day-to-day awake state. For that reason, Ron, Estu

Ron Besser  
And that's the woman that was at my door.

Jesus  
(Estu) Asked God to help heal you.

Ron Besser  
Yes. All right, I can understand.

Jesus  
She now understands that you had a telephone call you're in the middle of and that she interrupted it, to ask what trees to cut. You told her. She understands and that's fine. But what she also got a whiff of was Jesus. She turned and almost ran.

Ron Besser  
Yes, I noticed it.

Jesus  
I'm not sure what that achieves with her but with you, you were concerned that she was okay.

Ron Besser  
Well, I always worry about her. She's under 100 pounds 5' 10" and barely able to stand up. Yet she's working on the site, putting mulch down. I hope you don't mind me telling you all that, but that's the circumstance.

Jesus  
Thank you. Now this: the trial that you must deal with overunity, is to log back in as a new member. Don't let the membership stand the way it is, it's too fouled up. And finally this: the entire matter over which we are fighting about up here and with you Ron is not anything you've done, we've done, or anyone else has done. What has Urantia done? That's my next subject. And this: Yes, Ron just said I think we're back to normal.

Ron Besser  
Yes. Did my head do well, Jesus?

Jesus  
Yes, it did. Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Jesus.

Michael of Nebadon  
And now this, this is Michael of Nebadon. I authorized the test Ron, and you passed it beautifully. So did Jesus. I'm a little concerned when you noticed it right away and say, is Jesus standing right beside me? Yes, he was! How did you guess it?

Ron Besser  
Michael, I'm not sure I'm right all the time. But when you are present in the room, or someone else is there is immense clarity, as though I'm not taking a phone call or a dictation, but that you're speaking directly to me without intervening technology. It's that clear.

Michael of Nebadon  
I fully understand that now.

Ron Besser  
And that's what I got when Jesus did whatever he did.

Michael of Nebadon  35:00
Thank you. You are hearing ladies and gentlemen, a change to the transmission abilities that Ron does have. He can go anywhere we allow him to. He can hear what he wishes to. But he has steadfastly refused to transmit the cabal, Lucifer, or any of the ill ones that persist around him. They harm him. But I'm asking you Ron to take this cabal, this individual.

Ron Besser  
As you wish.

Cabal  
This is cabal. I am not Lucifer. I am not anyone but yourself Ron. And for that reason, you are to be terminated in the flesh and destroyed. I step back.

Ron Besser  
This is Ron to Michael, that was educational, Michael. Now can he be taken to health class and learn the true conditions of life?

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. I love the pun, health class. That's what he needs. That's not Lucifer. That is one you used to know as another. That is not what was spoken.

Ron Besser  
Yes, I got a name and refused it.

Michael of Nebadon  36:45
Thank you for telling him that. The truth of the matter is that that individual is imprisoned and was allowed to say one word, perhaps in redemption. But no. And for that reason, they are terminated. Now let me speak. Yes, this is Michael. To another favorite subject that all of you seem to have, but never speak forthrightly. What happens when we terminate Ron? Well, the fact of the matter is he's not to be terminated much to the depression of the cabal. We have decided that Ron represents a brand new species that we want Urantia to have entirely. Some of you are already homo Spiritus. But there is a species beyond homo Spiritus that can do what Ron does without going through everything you have to do to obtain it. Ron walked into it accidentally at China pond. He was not expecting a huge revelation. But he got one anyhow. At first, he laughed and letter later he cried because it was so painful. Painful in that the Adjuster redid the cell arrangement in the brain so that he could hear anything we wanted him to hear. For that reason, the Adjuster had to be fully honest, and appear practically beside him. Ron had awake dreams. I don't know if you've experienced them before. He was dreaming an entirely different scenario with his eyes open and aware of the world around him. That is extraordinary. We didn't know it could be done. Even Paul of Tarsus did not experience that. But then Ron's brain has always been a subject of controversy even with his parents. The truth of the matter is, it can be utterly stupid and at other times utterly brilliant. Ron compares it to the definition of an idiot savant. Well, he's not an idiot in other respects. But when it comes to planning and seeing to its composition, and its means of operation, no one could have put it together except Ron, and it's perfect for us. I want you to know that. The Magisterial Foundation is to be used administratively.

Ron Besser  
And I am getting the cabal in my throat. Michael, is that a warning?

Michael of Nebadon  
To you, Yes. Not to me and I catch it and they are dismissed.

Ron Besser  
It's heavy.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes, and I see why. You are dismissed.

Ron Besser  
One moment while we get rid of this. It's not moving.

Michael of Nebadon  41:03
It is but you're not catching why. All right. This is Michael of Nebadon. I'm going to change the subject abruptly. The truth of the matter is the Lucifer rebellion is regaling the insurrectionist Seraphim, for being slipshod in handling the situation. Lucifer is insisting that he be troubled. That is a cough that resides in the lower throat and restricts speaking. For that reason, the Lucifer rebellion may be adjudicated today, Ancients of Days. In any case, that's not to be shown to you in this audience right now. What we have to take care of, is a huge insurrection not only on Urantia but on Uversa in one small quadrant. And furthermore, there are other implications that must be cut before they are aware of it. I leave that to the secrecy of the Ancients of Days and even to myself. And finally this Ron: that's hanging on severely.

Ron Besser  
Yes, it's very uncomfortable.

Michael of Nebadon  43:00
The truth of the matter is, we are too. They are showing their muscle, their power, and finally their dismissal. But let me speak through the rain so to speak, and tell you this. I have asked and required of Machiventa Melchizedek one final and last report on the planetary manager position on Urantia. He asked me to do it because he is disgusted with the entire judicial system that is blind to circumstances. The truth of the matter is he is removing himself as manager in order to have a free hand. Mantutia has a free hand but for right now, Mantutia has to act on his own. Machiventa Melchizedek has resurrected his full and other position on Paradise and will report back to all of you when he has resolution starting there. It's not the Ancients of Days. It is a particular aspect of the Paradise Trinity that is blind to anything but the SOP (standard operating procedure) and for that reason, please understand he could care less about humanity. And finally this: we are now about to announce something that should cheer you all up. Ron has worried himself to death, over the provisioning of the Magisterial Foundation, with enough currency to keep you going indefinitely if he dies and to keep it going, definitely, if he lives. The truth of the matter is today is touch and go again. But Ron is fully in a state and will make it clear even to the attorney who has pleaded ignorance, for he fired him this morning, and wants to be retained in order to do the work. It has nothing to do with Ron really. But Ron got caught in the middle of it. And now this: I am fully sure, Ron, that WTP makes its appearance truthfully, in about a week. Don't ask me how. But I'm also sure that the entire matter concerning the Magisterial Foundation, the Magisterial Mission, the Second Return, and the Michael Missions are going to be shown in full power very close to the day you call Christmas. I need a little bit of leeway until this is set up fully. But now you know my thinking. Furthermore, Jesus is quite concerned that the pain in Ron is demobilizing the brain to the extent that it worries about its own welfare, rather than taking care of conditions. He refuses not to take care of conditions but sees to them all the time. We are now about to enter a problem with the telephone Ron.

Ron Besser  
I hear interference.

Michael of Nebadon  
It's not interference, that is a cleansing routine by the Paradise Trinity.

Ron Besser  
If we get cut, people just end it. I can't get back in.

Michael of Nebadon  47:52
And this: we are quite sure that the entire matter concerning all the elements of planning are secure and ready to implement. But there is one small problem with Dominick and the cabal. It will be returned, Dominick. Just be patient. And finally this: the entire matter concerning Ron, yourselves, the resources to do this, and a wonderful drawing by an architect of what the plant will look like when it's built, is probably going to be shown in the coming week. And we will put the picture up for you. We thank George and all of those who helped, Steven Gitz, for what has been completed. Just make sure you get a good photograph of it. So we can present it not only on the discussion forum but on the Rayson Corporation website which needs a lot of work, Dominick. And finally this: the entire matter concerning donations on that website Dominick, we wish to have removed. It intimidates the little guy and the big guy is not the slightest interested. Talk with Ron about it and then remove the donation aspect not entirely but mostly. I am Michael of Nebadon and I am finalizing this call now rather than putting up with the fight that we've got going on Urantia right now. We need to understand that rasterizing is appearing right now over your heads that is the optimization energy of the Father. Watch the discussion forum when we are able to release what has been done. I am Michael of Nebadon returning this to you Tarkas.

Ron Besser  
We are grateful, Michael. Thank you very much.

Michael of Nebadon  
And thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Tarkas, if you're there, please go ahead.

Tarkas  
Thank you. I am and I want you to know this: all of you, we are cutting this a little bit early because the planning that must be done is already under were underway I should say, and we don't want the telephone calls to be truncated by it.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, everybody. I am closing the tape.

end

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General Discussion / Re: Jesus and Michael
« on: November 29, 2022, 10:42:35 am »
Ron,
Did the personalities who were Michael's bestowals as 1) Melchizedek, 2) Lanonandek, 3) Material Son, and 4) seraphim also continue as unique personalities beyond those bestowals in the same way that 5) Eventod ascending spirit mortal did? 
Did the Michael personality who is unnamed and was on Endantum for 6) morontial mortal ascension continue as a personality or was that experience and personality wrapped into Eventod's?
Jesus' personalized Thought Adjuster, Sananda did not experience any of these bestowals, did He? Would he have experienced them vicariously or in some deeper manner due to having been Jesus' Thought Adjuster?
I am aware that those last two questions involve timing issues but what is time to spirit. That was not a question but I'm sure it could be.
Raz

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  • 112822 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser
  • Subjects: there is a reversion of mind to about 1946 occurring on Urantia, Spirit will be restricting the number of births, the mitochondria carry the code to set the trigger for when human life is to end, the Vitalbys work will not affect reflectivity, and the next Epochal Revelation; Speakers: Tarkas, Infinite Spirit, Deity Absolute / Gabriel, Michael of Nebadon, Christ Michael, Jesus, Majeston, and Mantutia Melchizedek; Q & A
  • Transcribed By: RAZ
  • Link To Tape: https://app.box.com/shared/static/j4231r0isucgug1lyp84x6wb6kg1tst3.mp3

Ron Besser  
Hello, everybody. This is Light Line USA for November 27, 2022. Happy Thanksgiving several days ago. And now let us find out just who may be here.

Tarkas  
This is Tarkas, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Welcome, Tarkas. A sight for sore eyes.

Tarkas  
Yes, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Yes, my grandfather used to say that when we came to visit and it pretty well stuck. And welcome Tarkas. Please go ahead.

Tarkas  
Thank you, Ron. The truth of the matter is, we never quite know.

Ron Besser  
Just a minute till I'm rid of the bastards. Hold on. Yeah, it's all flowers again, Tarkas. Go ahead, please.

Tarkas  1:14
Thank you. The truth of the matter is they join you with goodwill. And for that reason, we are going to let you all know that the entire reason that Ron is wheezing a little is that the Infinite Spirit is here. And He is carrying with him one of the Vorondadek Sons by the nape of the neck.

Ron Besser  
All right, it's a nice picture. Go ahead, please.

Tarkas  
Thank you. And it's this everybody: Ron had a fairly long conversation with Michael very early this morning when he was rousted out of bed for reasons we still don't quite understand, and he doesn't. But he got up about 3:00 a.m. sat on the edge of the bed and said, what do you want? The truth of the matter is, he received a signal to sit up and listen. But there was nobody there. For that particular reason, we asked the Infinite Spirit if He would consign to us some idea of just what the existential Deities are up to concerning the Local Universe of Nebadon and even Urantia.

Infinite Spirit  
This is the Infinite Spirit, Ron.

Ron Besser  
We welcome you, Sir. Please go ahead as you will.

Infinite Spirit  3:07
Thank you, Ron, we love your protocol. The truth of the matter is, I am the Infinite Spirit. I speak in low tones because those on Urantia do not understand language that sits in the register you read about all the time. Quickly, what is happening is there is a reversion of mind, to about 1946. That mind in 1946 was released from the war and all it could think about was getting home, having sex, having babies, and going to work in a job. They did all that. But the mind is not made for that kind of use all the time. But it's reverting to it once more. Urantia is already overpopulated. We don't want more babies. For that particular reason then we are reducing the power of the sex drive. Not entirely. You are animals. But for the most part, that which is a choice is not or no longer casually made. We have to restrict births. The Urantia population is down several million due to wars, disease, and suicides, and murder. You lost about 16 million individuals over the past six weeks the normal attrition rate is about 9 million. And for reasons I've stated, you will lose more, including another pandemic, if China has its way. Now this: I am working with Ron's mind trying to get it into a normal pattern of thought. But Ron is too far gone. He is almost totally morontia and has the status of a second-stage spirit in mind alone. He has no problem working the idea of a transmission because he doesn't spend his own energy. He doesn't use his own glands. The entire body with Ron is the mechanism of transmission. That can only happen when the body has transferred into spirit status with mind. For that reason, Ron can see very well into so many things that perplex you. He doesn't push it unless he's asked. You have received, several of you, posts in the past 48 hours that fully contain the answers to perplexing problems all of you have and can't see through it. Ron can easily see through it. And it's not mota, it's what happens when the mind becomes more spiritualized. For that reason, someone like you, Paul cannot hear very well. And a couple more of you do not hear very well. Ron decided because he's aware of it that he will continue to respond in accordance with the spiritual mandate that configures the answer. That means that the discussion forum can be a bit of a perplexion to those of you who support it, and love being part of it. In that manner, people like Dominick are fully aware of what Ron is doing, because he works so closely with the same mind that he is developing. That's what happens when you are in close proximity to one who has developed the skills. You take them on, simply because the observation within your mind recognizes it and takes it on for growth itself. Ron says, we badly need five or six of you in the living room with he and Dominick when the heavens open up and we receive deep information you should hear. But I can't do it, to open a telephone circuit would exhaust your batteries for the simple reason it can go four hours. Ron doesn't want that to be transmitted, it's too long and at times the breaks are either silly or they're eating. The truth of the matter is it is a lovely situation for those who can attend. For those of you who cannot, you are deprived. In any case, what we want to tell you today is this: tomorrow is Monday the 28th of November. Today is Sunday, the 27th, and the last day again for the Vorondadek insurrection, as it manifests itself to humans and the morontial worlds. Ron had two high school friends, one called Jeff and the other called Gary. They have remained friends even though they are in the morontial and he is stuck on Earth. They discuss many things with each other. Not the secrets. But remembrances past and the fun it once was. Now, we must bring to your attention, Ron, that Gary is now so far advanced. Yes. And he is not stuck at the apex, but must relieve himself of any discussion until he is prepared for his deity adventure in about six Urantia years.

Ron Besser  
Oh my Lord.

Infinite Spirit  
Yes, you didn't know that.

Ron Besser  
We talk silly. But no, I didn't know it as a fact. Thank you.

Jeff
This is Jeff. I will have mine, in about 10 years, Ron.

Ron Besser
Congratulations, Jeff. One like you should stay there

Jeff
Oh, thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser
You're welcome, Jeff.

Infinite Spirit  12:)3
Now this: the truth of the matter is, folks, you have lost friends too. They would love to chat with you. When you have a session in Ron's living room, you can, he can bring them right in. Permission is granted to Ron as he is fully trusted not to go on a revelatory spree. He's aware of his limits, and they are of theirs. But it is very nice to talk with friends you thought were so far gone. Not so, they're waiting to see you. Now this: we want everybody to understand what Jesus said to Ron this morning while he was pilfering Dr. Mendoza, for an answer to 'ghost dancer' (forum member) on the inoculation she received that's made her ill. People, please stay away from vaccines that have the live virus in them, they aren't pulling out just influenza. They're pulling out the guards to open the door to the retrovirus COVID-19 because it's still an epidemic on Urantia. China is the first to have it again, it may even bring down the government. Human beings are not designed to be pent up and look out their windows for months on end. Ron hates it, has gone through it, and refuses to believe that life everlasting will ever permit that again. It will not. For those of you who experienced it too, keep your health in mind. But remember, if you disobey and catch it, COVID-19 can be fatal. Ron explains it to ghost dancer. She's amazed that is what a retrovirus must do. They must kill you to replicate. That is horrible. That's what's been let loose. And now something more cheerful, the entire matter concerning COVID-19, AIDS, and several more diseases you don't know the name of is that they will be eradicated as the retrovirus will be. The planet is not supposed to be a lethal incubator of fatal diseases, famine, murder, war, and all sorts of relationships that are evil. It is meant to be an open, sunshine-lit world of water, sand, and beauty, not this. What has happened to you? Ron says to me this morning, Michael. There is not just a nice mission to correct things. It is an existential reason to correct and be here, regardless of the dangers to man. The rebellions the insurrections, and the cabals are really in reaction to a change in the status of Deity in the time-space regions. God the supreme was not the only one who gave up. He resorted to the horror of a dictator. That was not his nature. But he found it was necessary to cleanse places in the time-space universes that had gone too far one way or another. Nebadon is not responsible. Either is Urantia. But the horror was he chose both of them to seek revenge over the conditions happening. Those of you who have a hard time trying to understand what happened to the supreme, you're going to have to learn, hook or by crook it happened. Don't give me fine philosophical reasons, why Deity cannot be removed. It can be, it had to be, it was removed by its own understanding that there was no longer any room for that mode of participation to perfect the Master Universe. I'm instructing Ron to make sure this tape goes up. The last tape that you did was not put up for the simple reason that Ron considered it a bit too radical for anybody to listen to it outside of this discussion forum and therefore let it sit. Phyllis is too ill to put it up herself. Ron will put this one up when we're done here. For those of you who make transcriptions of these tapes, Raz you're the one who needs to do this one. We don't need duplications and we consider your work to be the finest. That's not a slap at the other ones. It is merely recognizing, let's choose one who knows the protocols very well. And finally this: the Magisterial Foundation made a financial report to you this morning. Some of you bothered to look at it, you have seen the rapacious cost of running it, it will only get more dear to do so. Some of you find it in your heart to help fund because you are responsible for making it possible to have a patent for a world-changing process that will forever cause a misunderstanding among scientists who still think quantum mechanics is the answer to matter. Far from it. Very far from it. Ron has the true handle. Most of you don't bother because it's so technical. Not really. It's easy language. You could follow it. But you've taught yourself you're not up to it. The Magisterial Foundation, as far as we are concerned, on Salvington is now a divine institution. We are buying it. The powers to be not only from Salvington but from Paradise will send an incarnated messenger to Ron's door, he will sit at the dining room table and sign the sales agreements and accept the protocols that it requires. He has no doubt without seeing them they are fair, equitable, and reasonable. If any of you had to sit in that chair, what would you do? He spent his own money well over $100,000 so that you can have these corporations. And many of you have donated 10s of 1000s to see to it, he can perpetuate it. Don't give up now. You're close to winning. The WTP patent is printed. It requires the mailroom to send it out. Ron has spent $5000 to obtain the world patent to protect it wherever he puts it in Europe, or Asia, or other places. That is the cost of having to make sure that this is safe and that the damn greedy fools that want to copy it for nothing can blow themselves up so badly that they take millions with them. Ozone gas is nothing to fool with. We are designing the plant to be rid of it permanently. But those who miswire it can spark it into an explosion because they don't get rid of it. That's why we have a patent in the first place, to protect how we wire the transducers.

Deity Absolute  / Gabriel of Salvington    24:13
And finally this: I am Michael of Nebadon not I am really the Deity Absolute. Transferring my power of communication to my vicegerent, Gabriel of Salvington. Thank you, Ron. The truth of the matter is Ron just thanked Gabriel in the morontia. He can do it. None of you seem to be willing to even try it. You sit there, absorb, and then worry. Try being proactive. George Meyer, you're one of the few that is proactive. You are a blessing to us. Thank you. Stephen Gitz so are you. The Planning Commission in general Elise and Phyllis are also blessings to us. They have contributed in their own ways, proactively. And finally this: as the Deity Absolute, please understand that Ron has run the course and has lived an extra eight years just to do this. His mitochondria set the year 2015 as his death. The body is worn out and cannot repair itself well, due to the fact we have overrun the code to stop the body living. Each of you have that trigger. It's in your mitochondria inside your bones. We do not override it. But we can give the gift of extra life by supplanting your soul in place of flesh and blood. It will appear as flesh and blood to those outside. But pity the doctor that tries to give you an operation and can't get the transfusion to take. Each of you when you learn that you are refortified will have to learn how to take care of your body. Don't be a hypochondriac. Take care of the necessary aches and pains, change is required of you. Dominick your head is preciously redone. But you've got some aches coming. And that is until the new tissue is firm and actually operating. Ron sees to it with you. As you have seen with him. It couldn't have been done without each of you together. And that is true for each of you ladies and gentlemen. The more you meet with like-minded individuals; that God is my center, that Jesus is my mentor, and that I live to do good. Those who are of that ilk help each other tremendously when you're together, physically. You can't tell it, but it is true. Old folk homes are anathema to Father. That mixes batches of people who are on so many different rungs of achievement, there is no chance that mutual friendships of a high development nature have any chance of helping each other because they are usually absent. And finally this: for all of you, the Magisterial Foundation is a bit of an ephemeral jack o'lantern lit in the patch somewhere that Linus is sure will visit much like Father Christmas does. And we laugh with Ron on that because that's true. Linus made it into not a fetish, but an alternate celebration of nature and goodwill. We miss the Peanuts.

Ron Besser  
And I think they miss us.

Michael of Nebadon  30:04
To all of you: this is Michael of Nebadon. The further trial of the Magisterial Foundation and now listen well is to establish the Divine Presence of Paradise sons on Urantia, in visible form. Ron says we cannot provide an office grand enough to house the incarnations but we can work administratively to maintain them. That is exactly how we're going to do this, folks. The Magisterial Foundation is an administrative center not only for WTP and anything else we may have in mind, but it pays the bills. It writes the checks. It is where the contracts are stored. And for reasons of state that's where the books are first kept. The Fifth Epochal Revelation is now considered out of date and must be removed before the cult called the Foundation insists on reprinting it, mercy of God, as its own book. It's in the process of revising the means of production of how to put it on your bookshelf. It's not what we produced. We will stop them before they print it. The current chief of state of that Foundation is of the opinion that Ron should lead it. Ron can't lead it. He cannot take the attitude that self-perpetuation trumps using God as the center of your preferences for revelation. A God-centered life provides the priority to the Father, not to the Foundation. They all make the same mistake. For some reason, Ron knows the difference and refuses that this Foundation will ever become central to your life. It will help find you work. But it won't tell you how to think or that you are imprisoned because you criticized it. Ron has a belly full of it already but understands that is the nature of man when he is uneducated. And finally this: as I keep promising, we who are in the Urantia Foundation. And that is an Archangel of record. And that Archangel's name Ron is not Ryan. It is another. No, it's not the Archangel of Michael, although that makes total sense. Ron just tired himself out and said I will stand back. The truth of the matter is that Archangel is fully apprised of you, Ron, and is horrified you have not done more to advise them.

Ron Besser  
This is Ron, I asked if I can speak. What the Urantia Foundation does with the advisements of the changes to the Fifth Epochal Revelation is to put them in the waste can upon arrival. I have fulfilled my obligation as one who receives revelation pertinent to the Fifth Epochal Revelation that the changes have been advised. I will never provide such loveless people who have now formed a cult around the Fifth Epochal Revelation anything further than what I feel I am obligated to do. That I promised Michael, and to our Father. Thank you, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. In further conclusion to that statement, Ron, you have not made anything more of the WTP available to the U.A.I. or any other as they refuse to comment. They are now removed from participation, I'm so sorry to say. Furthermore, the U.A.I. department in Texas is removed from any further participation in what they achieve as their view of WTP and what it will do for Texas. They have set a course and now lie in their own bed of choices. They may remain in it. You have said to me, Michael, Ron, our real audience is not the readership of the Fifth Epochal Revelation, it is to the common person, the average person who can still muster thought and mind that is requisitely critical of mistakes I make. But they also are capable of deciding freshly the ideals of what is revealed in that precious Urantia Book. We are no longer going to listen to all that claptrap Ron. But to remind you, among the readership are many of you on this and in this audience. You are precious, you have made the leap of faith to understand as uncomfortable as it is, you are hearing the changes in spite of any authority from the Urantia Foundation that should be making the announcements. They are done very soon. Bringing them down is not difficult for the simple reason they are running out of energy and even money. We let it lie for now. And finally once more, I Michael of Nebadon am quite sure that Ron has picked up something quite precious he can't seem to share with you. You refuse it every time he offers it. You have within you the same matter of spirit that Ron does. What Ron did was he empowered that same spirit of mind to a level that adjudicates his own judgments and releases them to the Father so that the Father is free to act and provide the insight to run something like the Magisterial Foundation that is becoming the administrative home for the Regency. It's one important foundation, but you will hardly hear of it unless you're working with them. Ron will be there. And he chuckles, you say so, all right. Now this: the one called Dominick is perchance looking at other alternatives due to the need for constant revision to that which sustains him. Ron has got the same problem, Dominick. The truth of the matter is shortly you will be salaried. The gifts promised will be delivered. Stop fussing Dominick. Your reunion shortly will be glad. There is much to say. Even Arthura will be back. Oh, Ron stop it.

Ron Besser  
No, I chuckle. If I may speak?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes, Ron.

Ron Besser  
It's briefly, this: Arthura is quite a character. And I mean that in the sense that he is overpowering in the room. And he has his attitudes to what Ron does, to what Dominick does, and the rest of you do. And when he sees something, he can be as sour as the most sour boss you ever met, and tries to be kind, but it spills over with; must you do that? I understand Arthura's coming back. And that we are going to have another performance. Thank you Arthura, we do look forward to it, to that. Thank you, Michael. Thank you for the vent.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. Now this: Arthura can't speak yet. No, Ron, stop it. The truth of the matter is that the entire ability of these different names to speak to you through transmission was; underline w a s - past tense, to be translated through Vitalbys. Those are 50 Adjusters bonding together to make sure that you have a clear transmission in these Light Lines at least and any important transmissions for the discussion forum. The chief of the Vitalbys has informed me that you Ron, are the only one they're going to attend to right now in order to make sure that they do not harm what is intended by these missions. It is truly so complicated we're not going to explain it here. But just know we're going to hone this down until we have clear transmissions through this one at least. Those who transmit it like Elise and the others, you will have their transmissions available and your Thought Adjuster will determine if they transmit through you. I told you it was complicated. Stop worrying about it. Go with the program. Don't question it. And now this Ron: we are coming up to about 10 minutes of the hour and there is no real question brewing among the audience as usual. But we want to open it to Q and A, particularly for those who want to question Jesus. This is Michael of Nebadon.

Christ Michael
I am now Christ Michael. I stand for Jesus. Because Jesus is on Urantia. He's visible. No one has a clue. No, he's not an executive in a toy factory Ron. Now, this: Ron, open it to Q&A.

Ron Besser  
Yes, everyone, that is on your number pad five star that puts a question mark by your name and I can come to you. I see we already have some. I will proceed. Michael, if I may.

Christ Michael  
You most certainly may, Ron. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
All right, Jose, just a minute., you're unmuted. Go ahead.

Jose  
All right, thank you. Thank you, Ron. You mentioned earlier in this transmission that you had a meeting with Jesus in your living room, I think it was. Could you please share with us anything concerning that conversation you had with him?

Ron Besser  
I didn't have a conversation with Jesus. Jesus, I'm sure, would love to do it, but the protocol requires that I meet with an official who carries the legal work I must sign and that is not Jesus, that is through the Melchizedek Corps. And they assign the personnel. I don't know who will be here. I probably will know them by name and we will have a good time. I will tell you all I can about it after the fact. But it is up to them to allow me to do that and I accept their conditions. But Jose, it's not Jesus this time. Okay?

Jose
All right. Okay, I have another question. You mentioned that Jesus was on our planet already. He's in physical form. Has anybody seen him and known, it was Jesus?

Ron Besser
Absolutely not. That's part of the preparation, that he can remain anonymous and not receive the accolades but receive genuine reaction to his personal self. You know, if you are Basil Rathbone, and people know you're Basil Rathbone they will treat you like a famous actor. But if you are instead, George Smith, they will take you as just one walking with you and mumble and complain about the conditions they have to deal with. Jesus wants to know the conditions. He doesn't want accolades. No, he's not known, Jose.

Jose  
All right. Okay. All right, Ron, thank you very much.

Ron Besser  
You're welcome. Jose, thank you. Weydevu, go ahead, please.

Weydevu  
Thank you, Ron. I just have one question. That was some time ago, sometime this year, I guess. We were told that Jesus was teaching a class in the Midwest. I'm sure that was temporary but can you tell us about it or what happened?

Ron Besser  
I have to go somewhere. I'm not even aware of it. Just a minute.

Jesus
This is Jesus. I'm not scheduled to talk. I don't want to talk very much.

Ron Besser
Weydevu, where did you get that information?

Weydevu  
I got it on, right here. We were told this, I remember that.

Ron Besser  
Well, I have a blank. Jesus, I do not know, ever speaking to it. But that doesn't mean with my memory problems it didn't happen. I have to refer this back to you. Thank you.

Jesus  
Thank you, Ron. The truth of the matter is that Lemuel is ready to take my voice.

Ron Besser  
Just a minute. Lemuel, I've unmuted you. Would you take the transmission, please? Thank you.

Lemuel  
Thank you, Ron.

Jesus  
Yes, good evening, everyone. Thank you, Lemuel. Just a moment, because in fact, Lemuel is thinking of something else he wants to ask you, Ron, to do with reflectivities. But alright, that's going.

Lemuel  
Thank You, Jesus. Thank you for coming.

Jesus  51:17
Yes. This is Jesus. And the question comes from weydevu. Yes, in fact, this is true. It did take place for a short while. And I did teach several people, well more than several people, quite a few people really. But as just as Ron has indicated, they did not have any idea who I was. And I didn't want that of course, as Ron has just explained, I do not want that ever. That is why I, not incognito, it's simply that I did not want to show who and what I was. And so they accepted me just as a normal teacher, and that was it. Yes. That did take place, weydevu. Yes. And thank you for the question. Now. Yes. Yes, Lemuel. Everybody's asking the same question. Yes, I know. And I have said the same thing to you many times. Yes. I also am aware of that. Well, looking back to last year, the preparations before last Christmas, we are in the same situation, as we were last year? No, not exactly. You all know that from the beginning of this year was it February, we now have a war. A terrible war, like all wars, are terrible. But this is particularly terrible because of the way the Russians have waged this war. But I'm not going into any detail, of course, because it's not this is not the time or the place where it's not necessary. But yes, we come up to Christmas again and I said it last year. I know I did. But for reasons you all know about it could not take place. This year is different. I repeat it. This year is different. And I intend it to be the last Christmas as it has become a tradition to celebrate in my name. But we shall see. We shall see. But it is my intention to put a stop to it. But knowing people like I do, they will continue to want to celebrate it in some way, shape, or form. Well, that's okay. But leave me out of it. So, we shall see again. Now, yes. All right. Well, I will also because I can talk about it. Okay, yes Lemuel, I wanted to mention what Lemuel was thinking about earlier on. In fact, he thought he had a transmission from Lord Majeston. And in fact, he did a short one about reflectivity. And Lemuel was thinking, questioning the formation of this wonderful group of Vitalbys to ensure that the transmissions are clear. Is there any further need for reflectivity? Will it affect reflectivity in any way, shape, or form? And this is what Lemuel was thinking about and this is what Lemuel wanted to know. And well I'm not going to speak on behalf of Lord Majeston, but only to say that the Vitalbys will have no, it will not alter in any way the reflectivity, when reflectivity is used. Not at all. The Vitalbys will only ensure that the normal channels of communication will remain open and will remain clear for all transmissions. And that's their reason for forming. All right. What else can I tell you? Well, no, I can only thank you for your loyalty and your steadfastness because I understand how you feel exactly, you have been disappointed so many times. Tested and tried. And yet you are still here. And I love you all so deeply. And I'm so very grateful that you are still here and loyal to me and I really do appreciate it. You are my flock and I know and love each and every one of you. Well, it only remains for me to say once more that I will see you soon. Yes. I am looking forward to it as much as you are. And with those few words, I step back now and I bid you all a very good afternoon.

Lemuel  
Well, thank you, Jesus. Thank you.

Weydevu  
Thank you.

Lemuel  
Just give me a moment to see if there's anyone else who wants to come through me, Ron.

Ron Besser  
All right.

Lemuel  
Do you want me to hand it back to you?

Ron Besser  
No, give a check.

Majeston  
All right, yes, this is Lord, I am Majeston. Yes. Well, I'm taking this opportunity to come through Lemuel because, as Jesus just mentioned, I came through Lemuel when he was interested in this earlier on this evening because he was thinking about the possibility of the effect, if any, that the Vitalbys would have on reflectivity. Well, I am here to say no, not at all. And reflectivity is and has been and will be in the future, those who are able to use it for the moment it's still the best way of receiving the transmission because as the word implies reflectivity, the information is reflected directly to the receiver and it doesn't matter how many receiver receivers that are, it doesn't matter how many there are throughout the world, they will receive the same message simultaneously. And that's how wonderful it is. Except for the problem that because the band is so wide. Lemuel likes to use the analogy of what you call in America an interstate highway, you can drive easily very, very fast, but be careful because it is so wide. If you lose focus for a moment, you go off your lane so to speak and it doesn't save you, that is when images and words fly up from your subconscious and you will likely need to come back onto that lane. This is the problem with reflectivity but there will be no problem, no interference per se, with reflectivity due to the actions of the Vitalbys. Okay. And this is all I want to say. So this is Majeston and I bid you all a very good afternoon and thank you, Lemuel.

Lemuel  
Thank you Majeston, very much.

Mantutia Melchizedek  
This is Mantutia Melchizedek. Yes, thank you, Lemuel. You all know that I was the author or to use a better word the arranger of the scripts that came through for the Fifth Epochal Revelation, The Urantia Book, the papers, and I have been involved with the developing and the repeating or the proposed repeating of that book so many times over the past few years, that I would just like to mention now, at this moment, that well you've already been informed in fact that the Fifth Epochal Revelation is yes, it is out of date. But as also, you know, for your own self, because you've been informed before, the Urantia Foundation is still printing it or trying to print it again and they are not willing to accept any changes. But the next printing or the next thing to be approved as a revelation will come through in time and it will include the Second Return of Jesus. In other words, it will be a continuance of the Fourth Ephocal Revelation to the life and times of Jesus and the return of Jesus. And we are working towards that even now, as to how this is to take place in the future, particularly because now  

Lemuel  
Excuse me.

Mantutia Melchizedek  
particularly because of the imminent return of Jesus now before Christmas. Yes, and those of you who have been advised or encouraged to keep a chronicle or maybe your own personal journal, please continue to do that. Because the information that you will supply in the future will be extremely interesting to read it in the future, they will become history part of the history itself. So, well keep writing in your journals and telling us what you think and what you feel, etc, etc.

end (Ron edited out the last portion of the tape at Spirit's request)

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In The Urantia Book 54.6.6, it reads: At first the Lucifer upheaval appeared to be an unmitigated calamity to the system and to the universe. Gradually benefits began to accrue. With the passing of twenty-five thousand years of system time (twenty thousand years of Urantia time), the Melchizedeks began to teach that the good resulting from Lucifer's folly had come to equal the evil incurred. The sum of evil had by that time become almost stationary, continuing to increase only on certain isolated worlds, while the beneficial repercussions continued to multiply and extend out through the universe and superuniverse, even to Havona. The Melchizedeks now teach that the good resulting from the Satania rebellion is more than a thousand times the sum of all the evil.


Now that the calamity of the supreme has taken place I know that the Melchizedeks and all of the celestial hosts have been busy but I wonder if they have had time to get their calculators out and if their calculations today would be anything near this optimistic? Spirit and all of our celestial family remind me of my earthly father who was always optimistic. May we always have a spirit of optimism too.
Raz

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General Discussion / Re: Sufix TIA
« on: November 18, 2022, 08:50:04 pm »
I assume that when we arrive at the mansion worlds we'll begin to learn the language of Nebadon. Do we know the name of the language of Nebadon? I am going to guess it's called - Nebadontia. Are all of these words ending in 'tia' words that we won't have to learn again in that language because we will already know what they reference or aren't they even a part of the language of Nebadon? 
Perhaps they are part of the superuniverse language of Orvonton? Do we know what that language is called? It is incredible to read in The Urantia Book 44.4.4 that the Uversa language has 70 basic alphabet symbols and over a billion character symbols.
Actually, I'm guessing these' tia' words will also need to be relearned in both the local universe language and the superuniverse language once we have finished this life.
Raz

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  • 111322 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser
  • Subjects: all 12 departments of the planetary government are removed and replaced by 12 honors which will have no human personnel, Rayson indicates He will be visible in about one week, the Son seizure of Ron is discussed, Universal Father partially discloses a mystery which had been unknown to Michael, Urantia is being renewed likely starting in the next six weeks, the New Universe Age foundation will be other than time/experience, the nature and the state of the Outer Space Levels, and the unification of time will start in the Dominion and spread out from there; Speakers: Tarkas, Rayson, Universal Father, Michael of Nebadon, Unknown, and Gabriel
  • Transcribed By: RAZ
  • Link To Tape: https://app.box.com/s/78xxem8c71ppe6nsvjy3vv02mwh2cu03

Ron Besser  
Welcome, everybody. This is Light Line Sunday, November 13, 2022. I'm Ron Besser, your host, and welcome.

Tarkas
This is Tarkas Ron, One Without Name and Number. And we say welcome to all of you. We now have 22 in our audience and are grateful for your time and attendance. It takes a lot to remember when things get so busy for you to remember to take the time to listen to us. We thank you for remembering. I am Tarkas, Ron, as you have been mulling around now for almost 48 hours the entire business concerning the planetary government has been a real serious problem as announced to you. We're not going to go into the detail that you have received, Ron. But we are going to tell the audience that the planetary government as originally put together and until about a few days ago, had 12 departments. We had asked some of you to help provide those department's personnel. The Universal Father has therefore decreed that the planetary government remove the departments and merely put what we now call the honors in place of the departments. The honors are merely the names and not the department. There is a department of education but it's now been turned into the honors of education. No personnel, particularly human is to be placed in an honor. That is for the future. All 12 have been removed. The honors right now are taken care of by the Archangels. And finally this: Machiventa Melchizedek has promised that the planetary government will become visible not with Mantutia or Machiventa, neither one can do it. But we will have a discreet planetary appearance by the Magisterial Sons with Rayson representing the government. Ron says he loves it. Thank you.

Rayson  3:23
Now this: this is Rayson, the Magisterial Son of record. I will be visible in about a week. Big news. Let me say it again. I Rayson, a Paradise Magisterial Son will be visible in a week. We let that alone for now. This is Rayson to you, Ron. You have been fighting death and the horrors of excruciating pain for over a month now. The trial for that must end. (when the speaker transitions from Rayson back to Tarkas is unclear here)

Tarkas  
And let me say this to you without giving you details. Ron made a suggestion yesterday that blew the place up. We never thought of it. Let me give you the simple details. Ron has requested relief. He rather not die and leave Urantia with the projects just hanging fire. He requested among other things Son seizure. Son seizure is not fusion ladies and gentlemen, it's hardly mentioned in the Urantia Book. What Son seizure is, is the decision of a Creator Son, to fill the human body with so much spirit, it dissolves and appears with that Creator Son in his local universe. Michael did not want to do that to Ron for reasons of his own, and reasons of state. Ron turns around and says, we understand Michael, you just don't want to do this, but it seems to be the only way out to deal with whatever has happened to me. May I suggest, you now have something called a Dominion. That's a total of six Creator Sons, plus the Father. He suggested to the Dominion, that the Dominion which is represented all by Creator Sons, jointly, Son fuse (seize) him with all of the Creator Sons participating, and then make him an official of the Dominion regardless of how poor he is at the beginning, or what it portends. Immediately, the Deity Absolute says there is no precedence, there is nothing that we know of that is a problem with that. The Universal Father then said he would rather like to see the experiment to proceed. But the Creator Sons in the Dominion turned white, they blanched for the simple reason no one knows what would happen to what was Ron to what they seized. They would all infuse him with their purposes and Ron would be a counsel of his own, representing purposes of all six or seven of the Creator Sons of the Dominion. Ron says I did not intend to become an official, I intended to stay on Urantia without all this pain. This morning, the Father decreed the following, Ron. Proceed, that's all I have to say. Michael says, Father, do you know consequences? Father says yes, proceed. Now, what does that mean to me Tarkas? I waited 10s of millennia to be fused by the Paradise Trinity to become One Without Name and Number. Ron is suggesting that Son seizure accomplishes for a local number of universes an official of their combined efforts as a Dominion. I Tarkas am not upset, I'm so curious, I can hardly stand it. What in the world would that do to a human? Son seizure was made on several people you know, I will not repeat who they are. But several in your great histories were Son fused, Son seized I should say, and disappeared.  You know, a couple by name if I mentioned them. And we're going to let that go for now. What we have in effect is a suggestion by a little human, how to avoid further discrimination by the insurrection, by the rebellion, and by the cabal and to become fully evident on Urantia if we can do it. Michael has refused to discuss it further and the other Creator Sons are all looking at it seriously and wondering what to do about it. For that reason, we have had to say to Ron your hours are limited in your life, as it is now lived. We do not know the consequences of when the Father says proceed. Ron seems to be excited by it but is deeply concerned that it would prevent him from serving as a finaliter because Son seizure keeps that person in the local universe of the Creator Son that fused him or I should say seized him. Seizure and fusion are very different. Ron is fused with the Creator Son, some of you are. Now this: the nature that must be considered is that Ron is deeply concerned that the WTP is truly a major revelation to Urantia they can use. We agree. We agree to the point the Father says save his life regardless of what you do, and present him visibly to Urantia so he can interact and teach. For that reason, Ron, Son seizure is not possible by Michael. But it is possible by one or two of the Dominion that is now available. We have never wished Ron to leave Nebadon but if they fuse, I beg your pardon seize him then he belongs either to Avalon or Sensalon. Run has no choice and doesn't mind if that is what allows him to make this revelation of how to deal with matter so evident. As it turns out, ladies and gentlemen, this individual speaking, is the only person that knows how it is done. Dominick has the blueprints but he doesn't know the transaction. Ron does and for that reason, if he goes WTP and the revelation go too. We are now at the point in this Light Line that we should have someone in authority speak. But let us tell you that the shock about the suggestion about who should Son fuse through the Dominion is so considered and so important that they rather not even speak to it verbally through this Light Line, at least now. One moment.

Unknown  15:17
I am another voice. I'm not cabal. But I am not ever considered a friend or a supporter of Nebadon. We disagree too much. In any case, Nebadon is the one that is presently the chief at the table of the Dominion. As that chief, they are warning you, Ron, that any discussion further about the Dominion and Son seizure is premature. I have been selected because I'm neutral, to speak to the following information. Number one, Son seizure presents certain technical difficulties for ascension to finaliter and you don't want that to happen. Number two, you prefer to serve Nebadon but are open to the Dominion to be part of it. Number three, you would love to work with your friends of the past and they are evident in everything you do lately because they see you coming close to passing in death to meet them. For that reason, Ron, I recommend to Michael of Nebadon and to the Dominion we do not consider this option. What must be considered is total fusion by the Adjuster and presenting you to Michael as a finished spirit. For that reason, Rayson has volunteered to be visible on your planet to make available anything that WTP would do without presenting it as a building with a tower. There are other ways of doing it. But we rather not do it that way, but to provide the Epochal Revelation Ron intends to deliver because it works. For that reason, I withdraw the idea of total Adjuster fusion and ask that Michael reconsider other options. What those other options are are not known to Ron, nor to any of you. But they are all fiat materials and as a result, are secrets. I conclude my remarks Michael and to the Dominion. What Ron has offered is exceedingly helpful. I have never thought of it. Dominion never thought of it. Father never prescribed it. But for reasons of state, Ron is in a terrible condition and needs relief. He can follow through with the steps required and all of you. He supports what you are, what you do, and probably may even hire some of you but that can't proceed until he is validated to remain visible and human on Urantia. I step back.

Ron Besser  
We thank you and are grateful.

Unknown  
Thank you, Ron.

Michael of Nebadon  19:59
This is Michael of Nebadon. And thank you unknown. I have had a shock beyond all words when Ron said that. We never considered it. We never even thought that the Dominion would be an operating unit, much less to have what Ron thinks makes him an official. I think it does. I don't know what to do about it. The truth of the matter is Ron loved the idea of the Dominion immediately. We didn't even have to explain it to him. What in the world is going on with a sector of the universe, we have no idea what it is, where it is, and how it operates. The Universal Father said to me, Consummators are not the only high officials I deal with. What in God's name is that? I am his Son. I don't know about those things. One of them spoke to Ron late last evening and reminded him that they will never be seen, found, or developed but they are capable of pulsing destiny anywhere they feel it is necessary to include them. They don't live in the Master Universe. They are not hyperinfinity. This is even greater mystery. Mystery so deep the Father himself avers, no comment. For that reason, it was disclosed in one sentence. The Circle of Infinity from that source was passed down to Ron in his early years, to domesticate him, and to bring him into the technologies that prepare the planet Urantia the ability to live better. He never knew it, never suspected it, nor do any of you. This must remain a mystery and that's all the disclosure you will ever have from this source. We stand back.

Universal Father  23:15
This is the Universal Father, Ron. You are genuinely reporting what is being transmitted. I am aware of the source. It is genuine. I have never disclosed this. You are not receiving Epochal Revelation ladies and gentlemen, you are receiving a New Universe Age in which I must make adjustments too. The NUA the (New Universe Age) must find a new foundation that is not entirely based on the idea of time and experimentation. Experimentation is necessary to find what works and what cannot work. Please remember this; Ron's nervous system reacts to choke him, take his breath away when evil approaches him. They're always harassing him with it. That is not an assignment I made. But someone did. And Ron cannot live with the idea of supremacy, that is where the evil is founded. Yet there are trillions of seraphic beings who are of the supreme and cannot minister to Ron. That's a great mystery. Ron is a great mystery in that he has no idea of why the effects he provides are evidence even to you. I am the Universal Father, I condone his disbelief that any Spirit can help him. But of all things, listen to this. He says to the new deity, and we call him Tandyboro, at the moment; I find you totally acceptable. I have nothing against you. You work fine with me and I with you. Yet He is a replacement for the Creative Spirit. He's universal. As was God the supreme who is no longer with us. I have made adjustments in my thinking now, at least twice. Ron is not to be removed, I insist. But my Creator Sons are at a juncture of what to do about a New Universe Age situation that is alive before you ladies and gentlemen, personally. You're seeing it in a way no one else ever will. The travails we have provided about Ron are meant to show you that he has entered the New Universe Age entirely and cannot easily exist with the ministry of Spirit we provide. I know the implication. Ron says it has something to do with the goodwill of spirit, but have no clue. The truth of the matter is, that is entirely it Ron. But that is based on a New Universe Age idea that Spirit is not entirely to be used in time. You say; My God, if it's not Spirit, we don't know anything else. You will. For the next six weeks, we think Urantia is going to be buffeted by bad news physically. When that happens, I doubt that there is a Christmas much less a happy Christmas. It's gonna hit for Urantia in two difficult areas, the West Coast of the United States, the East Coast of the Republic of China, the People's Republic of China. For some reason or another, they are the two most powerful nations on the planet and they're getting first choice to the disasters. It will cause pandemonium in world markets and we frankly forecast the destruction of the constantly renewing capitalism you work with. We think an entirely new capitalism must rise. We need the planetary government visible and speaking and that the Regency is an effort we need to make. But you're dealing with animals, even clever ones, that had governments and are so egotistical to think they are God's chosen leaders. We don't want to battle. We're not going to insist on a Regency or a protectorate zone, Ron. But it's still open and on the table, according to Michael's wishes. I have spoken clearly, fully, and well. I will continue to speak to it as interest arises among the discussion forum, which is fully and blankly sitting on the couch and listening and not doing. Ron says it should be taken down. But there are also connections there that should never be taken down. I just let it ride. And for that reason so do I, Ron. You ladies and gentlemen who are listening today and there's a few more that have not joined are a select few that actually knows what we're thinking. It is going to be a big surprise to everybody else. How you use this information should not be passive. But at least prepare your minds to go into the modes of disaster containment. That may be your biggest job and afford people near you, you consider friendly to understand what is going on. The planet is being renewed, not that God forecast tectonic plate problems, but that the planet is being renewed, that there is a divine intervention that will be visible and people can ask it questions, and that technology is going to appear by a serious inventor called Ron. These things must prevail. I step back.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Father, very much.

Universal Father  
You're most welcome.

Ron Besser  
This is Ron one moment. The circuits are being rewound. There's a bit of silence. I'm going to the speaker phone to adjust my blood flow. Hold on. All right, that's not as good but I have to use it. I am Ron Besser. You know that. I've been here forever. And so have some of you. You have been loyal, supportive, and good-natured. That is never forgotten. Thank you. I don't know what they're going to do to me. There's too many options on the table I've heard with no selection. And for that reason, my friends, I don't know what's going to happen. For reasons of state I am told that today and maybe tomorrow will be more or less the last day, I deal with these circumstances. I don't know exactly even what that means. But in any case, as long as I'm here, I will hold these Light Lines to provide you an insight into what will be a new Epochal Revelation. I spoke of it many times before. But they have finally caught on, ladies and gentlemen, that the way to the human heart is through technology, at least in this era. There is a major revelation brewing through technology now. They're gonna learn the facts of material life and how it works, and why it's part of the undeifed universe, as well as the Deified universe. They must construct a new cosmology if they want this planet to survive, it is my intention to enjoy some of that production and I have asked the pain to be removed. That is entirely up to my superiors. But it is all to my friends that I speak this: I thank you so much for your interest, for your attendance, and for your support. Now the circuit to Michael has been put up again, I can hear it. One moment. He made me go back onto the headphone. Hold on.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon. Ron, you speak eloquently and well. Every one of those persons on this Light Line today are your friends and they see to the support. But they can't do work they can't see. You see it because you invented a lot of it. Now we're going to make that invention work. As of today, I am not going to Son seize you. But there are other methods you are totally unaware of that will be put into effect, we promise, and that the vitality cells on the brainstem are renewed. You can hardly breathe, much less walk. That is the destruction of the body from within. We're stopping it and you are going to feel much better a little later today. That's the young Father Ron and he wishes to speak.

Ron Besser  
One moment.

Universal Father  38:19
Ron just received a picture of a young Father. That's Me on Paradise. I do that to remind him that when there is renewal of this kind, it reverses all the old age spots, the froggy voice, and the determination of the body to turn to dust. That does not frighten Ron but it is so inconvenient as he says to ask for renewal. That is to be provided. Now this: Ron just had the mind say I don't entirely object but I'm too old to keep this up. And to the mind I say this, your rejuvenation is in place. Learn to sup and the brain is responding. And now this: the entire matter we have discussed with you today is so relevant to your lives. But you do not know how nor do you particularly care to know how. Ron does and that's the difference. We cannot categorize anyone on this list today, of which there are now 29. The entire matter of listeners is fully resident on this Light Line in particular, for the simple reason, this is where the rubber meets the road. We tell you what will happen, so that those hosts for all next week, know where to speak. The old idea of the Light Line had to be put away, and you're now presenting what a new Light Line is like. It has to report the serious conditions of your planet, of yourselves, and of our decisions, to redesign time so that it does provide the foundation for new life in the outer space levels. Ron still sees the outer space levels as a place for ultimacy, I do too. God the Ultimate is no longer the one who determines that however. I do. For that reason, I am making this statement to you, Ron in particular, and to those of you who understand it at all. God the Ultimate is no longer an experiential Deity. He's been absorbed by the Deity Absolute or God the Absolute. The Deity Absolute will become God the Absolute regardless of the difficulty, some of you have with that. For reasons of state as well the third outer space level Ron is Coabsolute. The fourth outer space level is to be Coabsolute, with the idea of hyperinfinity being introduced. It's all right, Ron. The truth of the matter is the fifth outer space level is God the Absolute. And he will determine precisely how we become an infinite Master Universe. Ron knows the details far more than you want to deal with it. And that's because he spent hours and days on it and you don't have the initiative to do that. Finally this: Ron, this will be reported to you in a paper and you're most welcome Ron.

Ron Besser  
Yes, this is Ron. It's far too much for me to remember even to put down on paper. And they have promised to help me put it down on paper for those who are interested. Thank you, Father, please go ahead.

Universal Father  
Thank you, Ron. The truth of the matter is that we are now approaching the quarter hour to 3:00 p.m. here in New York time. We have 15 minutes left of this Light Line and I would like to display a little heart to all of you. The truth of the matter is that Ron has been facing death daily for months. He just passes it off as best he can. Meanwhile, he is harassed remorsefully day after day by the cabal and other issues of rebellion. We have tried to remove them. They keep filtering back and now I am decreeing that Urantia is a cabal-free planet and that Densalon and several other local universes can now let down your guard. The Dominion, Michael, and to all of the local universes who may be listening in it is considered the primary groundwork for the solidification of time into one undivided unit. Ron spoke to it last evening to me and said, Father, I view the Dominion as the small hive that will spread around 360 degrees to fill time as one unit of time that is in perfection. This is the experiment, folks, for Creator Son cooperation and determination of how to conduct their local universes. They do not even have that, in the Sonship Transmissions I make to my Sons daily. Ron of all things hears more at times than they do. He is an after status, he's after making it work and for people to understand what the heck is really going on. That's the purpose of Dominion. It's the little hive that starts the unification of time. For that reason, Ron, you should be Dominion in all of your efforts with a love and care for the specialty of Nebadon with Michael of Nebadon. Fear not, you are not divided among seven. But simply providing counsel, as you may be asked for. Yes. And now this: on high little spirit beings never say anything, unless they are solicited for information. That's what Ron said, I understand. When you say when I'm asked for I may speak, and never so beforehand. I'm making an exception for you, Ron. You are the one with the strange and mysterious connection to a hallowed area I never reveal. But they revealed themselves to you. It's not more or less of hyperinfinity. But it is other. And Ron just said, oh, Lord. And this: I joke with Ron because he's got a sense of humor that is universal. Learn to laugh people, it's not all so dead serious you can't see relationship problems and the humor they can generate when they do. I'm the Universal Father. I don't think a Q&A session is appropriate. I will make this clear; that Ron will be around for centuries, if necessary. And maybe, maybe some of you. I turn this over now to Michael of Nebadon.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Father, as always. We are grateful.

Universal Father  
Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Welcome, Michael. Go ahead, please.

Michael of Nebadon  49:57
Yes, Ron. Thank you. I am determined Ron, that this is not the last Light Line. But if it is, say bye-bye. And for that reason, I offer this: condolences if they're necessary. Ron has shown, which you should all show, not as Ron, but as your individual selves and your dedication to your Father and to me. I'm not an intercessor I am a necessary step. And Ron fully acknowledges that in spite of the unification of his mind with mine, and Father. He deals with difficulty, normal thinking at this point, he has to constantly remind himself the junk collector comes on Thursday morning, he has to put it out Wednesday night, but he forgets. That's what I mean. It's not easy for a brain to deal with that. Now, the truth of the matter is that his friend Dominick has helped tremendously. Dominick is leaving for two weeks for the West Coast. He will return we hope December 1. In that time, is one of the worst times for Ron to deal with. And that has mostly to do with this transition. But Ron says it is fully necessary that he takes care of what he has to when he has to on the West Coast. There is no problem. However, Dominick, if you come back and 2709 is empty, proceed with the paper Ron gave you. It's gonna be a little tough to understand. He's gone and no body, we are seeing to that. However, we are expecting that the processes I have set forth with our Universal Father, prevent the dissolution of this life and that you can meet the silly Ron on December 1 again. We leave that alone for now and say this to all of you. This entire period from about 29 or 2008 to the present time has been transmitted mostly by Ron, for all of you. The trial that must remain is if this voice is silenced to pick it up and continue it. The Magisterial Foundation has the money to pay for the phone calls and the websites that must prevail. Rayson will prevail with it and provide what Ron wants to provide now. I don't want this to dissipate. We shall see. And I conclude this Light Line we are not going to go to Q&A. I think it's too somber to do that. But I want to say before we depart I'm Michael of Nebadon. Gabriel, the Deity Absolute, the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit; all conclude that Urantia has one last chance. This is it. Put your back to the shoulder or your shoulder to the wheel and make sure that you contribute what you can. And now I am leaving, here is Gabriel for all of you.

Gabriel  55:32
I am Gabriel. We thank you, Michael. The truth of the matter is Ron that was removed from you so as not to patronize the Creator Son in a huffy mood, not over you, but over some of you deciding this is melodramatic and it must stop. As far as we're concerned, please let it stop. For those of you who care, the entire reason for the modification of what we are doing with Light Line, what we are doing with the Master Universe, and what we are doing with time is not a minor issue or sentimental. But the trial must end as it is now. If Ron is around you have Sunday Light Line next week. I doubt the Tuesday Light Line will be held but watch the discussion forum if he cancels. He has no intention of canceling at the moment. And finally this: I am Gabriel of Salvington Ron, God bless you, and stay well. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
We thank you, Gabriel. And Michael huffy or not for speaking. We are grateful. And that ladies and gentlemen, ends our Light Line for Sunday, November 13, 2022. Thank you for listening.

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  • 110622 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser
  • Subjects: some Vorondadek Sons are assisting rather than harming humans, new order of being on Urantia is revealed and they are called Husboro and are in between humans and midwayers and they provide care for nature on Urantia, the change of time in the time/space universe will happen first on Urantia and will affect 3 different age groups in differing ways and it will bring a closer following of Father’s will to evolving human civilizations, and Arthura and Tarkas, Henson, and Bzutu will be assigned on Urantia; speakers: Tarkas, Council of Equilibrium, Machiventa Melchizedek, Jesus, Henson, Michael of Nebadon, and Arthura.
  • Transcribed By: RAZ
  • Link To Tape:  https://app.box.com/s/47wkc0yzaq0h3gdaavf8c7an64iqyrv3

Ron Besser  
Hello, everyone. Sunday Light Line. Today is November 6th 2022. I'm Ron Besser, your host. We have 19 on the call this morning, or this afternoon, I beg your pardon. I suspect that we have a few less today because they did not set the clock back. That is what happened this morning.

Tarkas  
This is Tarkas, Ron, you're catching a lot of interference.

Ron Besser  
Yes, I am.

Tarkas  
And that is unknown to us as well. It sounds like an open mic.

Ron Besser  
That's what it sounds like. And it may very well be. Can you put up with it, Tarkas?

Tarkas  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
I'll do my best down here.

Tarkas  
As a matter of fact. (silence)

Ron Besser  
Hold on a minute, please. I'm trying to adjust this. That's better. Tarkas, if you will, please go ahead.

Tarkas  
Yes, Ron, thank you. This is Tarkas. I'm One Without Name and Number. The usual difficulties prevail for us right now and for that reason, we may stop in the middle of a sentence and correct. Like we just did. I am Tarkas and I'm also warning all of you that the entire matter is going to be addressed to all of you, but some of it may specifically apply. I want to discuss one thing in particular with you. And that is that the default that we must work with today includes the full admission of the cabal to Urantia over the decree by the Spirit of God, the one you call Tandyboro. It is for that reason alone, Ron, that you are having these difficulties, and that we may have to cut it off a little early to prevent more. You had a speech or two with Tandyboro this morning.

Ron Besser  
Yes, and I asked permission. This is Ron to explain, Tandyboro to you. That is an assigned name to a new spirit that was sent from the Universal Father to time and space. And the reason that deity was sent into time and space is that planets like our own Urantia are in great difficulty without having any ministry of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, and a few other concerns, including the adjutant spirits. They have almost all been cut. The new spirit that was sent to us months ago, is a deity that oversees all of time and space. We have given a general name to him. He can change it anytime he wants. But we both like Tandyboro, T A N D Y B O R O. And for that reason, as Tarkas go ahead with what you want to say.

Tarkas  4:40
Thank you, Ron. I am now sure that Tandyboro fully understands that your concern is not for him. But for the Vorondadek Sons that are totally misbehaving this morning entirely. You have had nothing but problems with a cabal all week, including them breaking a valve stem on your riding mower. You couldn't fill the tire and you gave up mowing. You called some help over. When you raised the barn door and looked at the mower tire. The mower tire had changed position and a brand-new stem was in the tire. We could fill it with air again. That was good spirit making amends for the blasphemy that the Vorondadek Sons in particular are pulling.

Ron Besser  
I felt like a damn fool. Honest Bob, it was so and so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In any case, I can mow again. And I thank God for that. But the fact of the matter is they are pulling that all over the property today, and yesterday, and the day before. I'm missing things. I don't have things that I used to. And they're seeing to it that things are moved into the morontial where we can't see them.

Tarkas  6:37
This is Tarkas. And for that reason, Ron, we're telling you this. The repair work was done by the Vorondadek Sons in your name. There is a group of Vorondadek Sons that is attempting to be friends with you. You don't take them easily, because they're brusque and they talk in a King Louie the 14th style. In case you don't know what that was, he held life and death over you when you appeared before him. No one argued if he chose to kill you. Now this: we also say Ron, that you were introduced to a new order of being. Yes, you are fully sympathetic to them. And they to you. This new order ladies and gentlemen fits between the human and the midwayer. You've never been told that there was a gap filled between the midwayer and the human life. The name that you applied to them was Husboro - H U S B O R O. That you made up and they're wearing it for now. They are not a life carrier order. They are of the orders that Gaia gave the planet. They are small, about four feet tall. Their skin color is either a light gray or a pale green. Ron says it must be chlorophyll. Not yet, Ron. In any case, they work here to see to the welfare of your plants and trees and to the welfare between humans when there is decency between you. They said to Ron, we collect around you because we no longer have a parent. In case you don't know. Gaia has been removed and has been reassigned to a different universe. For the reasons that she has been promoted. Her full description is not available to me. But Ron knows that Gaia even spoke to you briefly yesterday and thanked you for the care you're giving her creation. Ron told the Husboro, I can't do much. I'm a poor human with less abilities than you have. But I'm for you. I will protect however that may be given to me to do so. You are my friends, and I welcome you. That's so endeared Gaia, she spoke to the leadership and Ron now has another group helping defend against, well, the insurrection, and even the rebellion. They are here with me today, ladies and gentlemen. And I thank them for their attendance. Now this:

Ron Besser  
I feel the wrong stuff around me. Tarkas. And it's strong, very strong.

Tarkas  
Continue, we'll take care of it. Thank you. While we're taking care of it, we are now in the middle of a decision-making day or two to determine what happens to the Master Universe, it is that big. Ron has indicated that he thought the need for spirit is almost nothing, but at the same time, there needs to be ministry, to your heart, to your soul, and to the things that make life worth living. There's nothing like friendship. There's nothing like love. There is nothing like being successful in the things you love to do. The rebellion would steal it. And for that matter, we're about to shoot the evil one again.

Ron Besser  
Folks, I get warned. They take the breath away from me.

Tarkas  12:48
All right, we dispatched that one. Now the thing we have to speak to today, besides the bad behavior going all around me again, is to assign to you the idea that Michael wishes it to be known that whatever Father does to time, the present generation on Urantia is to be removed entirely. That's anybody from 18 years of age down to a day old and we don't mean death. We mean they will not exert the influence of the coming administration. Majority of people as a group, they will blend in with the present generation. The present generation is about 30 to age 51. The present generation of about 30 years of age to age 51 will have great influence. They will have for a change, something to do besides working all day, vacationing, and dying as a great-great grandfather. It will not do for anyone to understand how this has to be done but Father sees the need to modify time entirely in the entire space-time region. For that reason, Ron is appalled at his physical condition. It's not only a bad blood cell that is causing it, it is also that he is mostly morontial and the body cannot cope. We never thought it would be a problem, but he's a world war two baby, not the current grouping. For that particular reason, a few of our hosts are also world war two, particularly Amethyst. And since I don't know the birth dates of everybody, I refrain from identifying completely. But those of you who are in your 80s are of the world war two generation, late 70s also applies. I am now speaking as Tarkas of Nebadon, Ron. And you smile and say, Well, isn't this news? Yes. I have asked for a transfer from Paradise to Urantia, in particular. I could have asked for Salvington or Nebadon. But I didn't. I have to work on Urantia. That's where Ron is. Arthura from hyperinfinity has asked the Council of Equilibrium to transfer to either the local universe or preferably to Urantia. Today, the Council of Equilibrium ruled the following: I Tarkas may transfer to Urantia. You, Arthura may transfer to Salvington. If you were let loose on Urantia it would create revelatory problems that we don't want to get into right now. And Ron says well, that's interesting, because it would have brought the subject forward, premature not; that many would benefit from. It's only a remark, it isn't instruction. Thank you, Ron. This is Tarkas. And we thank you for it, Ron. I have argued the same thing.

Council of Equilibrium  
This is the Council of Equilibrium. Ron. You carry a heavy weight with us. You believe Arthura's presence if he is allowed to speak to it.

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Council of Equilibrium  
That he would educate beyond words the idea of expanded spiritual concepts that are never taught for another at least 200 years on Urantia.

Ron Besser  
I do Council.

Council of Equilibrium  18:41
Thank you and for that reason, we grant Arthura, the right to work on Urantia as long as he wishes. We are grateful for the comments Ron.

Ron Besser  
And Council of Equilibrium. We are most grateful that you even listen to us. Thank you for your attention and assignment. We are grateful.

Council of Equilibrium
Thank you, Ron, we retire.

Tarkas  
Now this is Tarkas, Ron. Yes, Ron. Ron says, Oh yeah, yeah, Tarkas. Now this: I Tarkas has seen to so many doubloons that failed on other planets. I'm not afraid for Urantia because we're under Ron. Now he has no power folks that was not meant to mean power. But it does mean you have a human who understands just enough to keep the Magisterial Foundation, the Magisterial Mission, and other Missions pure and out of the

Ron Besser  
They are looking for the right word.

Tarkas  
the frailty of human decisions that don't see far enough. Ron has been tested severely for the last three days on top of fighting a rebellion that moves things out of sight, and even destroys some mechanisms. Now, the truth of the matter, Ron just apologized to the Vorondadek Sons, if they're that good to do something for him he desperately needed. The truth of the matter is Ron, there is nothing you can do further, that is not already scripted for you to follow. Yesterday, you had Dominick take you to a store so you could buy skillets. You have a lot of skillets but what happened?

Ron Besser  
This is Ron, I'll make it easy for Tarkas. Somehow, I managed to drop three skillets. They are now out of round, and I can't stand to see them on the top of the stove in the size of an ellipse if you get what I mean. I needed something that was made of iron. And this time if I drop it, I don't go out of round. Thank you, Tarkas.

Tarkas  
Yes, thank you, Ron. The following information is available to all of you as well. If you find you are dropping things, losing things, and forgetting; you are under the control of the cabal. They're trying to weasel their way into human decisions and confusions and above all, to split you away from friendships and work relationships that you need to keep. They love to create confusion that way. Suspect it if you are having trouble in any of those areas and tell them no, you will have nothing to do with them. Now this from Tarkas. The Light Line for Sunday USA is going to remain. The Light Line for Tuesday is going to remain but Ron should not have to do double work. We're going to assign one of you who already is a host to take Tuesday. We'll let you know. The reason that we have to do that is that by Tuesday, we have answers to what is decreed on Sunday. That's why Ron originally scheduled Tuesday for a quick update. But he is about to undergo surgery, not in a hospital but in spirit. And it will be very hard on his mind as the confusion with this cabal is hard on his mind already. For that reason, he will take this coming Tuesday, but then we will reassign Tuesday to a new host. He will stand by to help. And now this to you, Lemuel. You ran into the same problem, this past Light Line that you run into now and then in the lack of an emcee. When are you going to learn to ask for it explicitly. It's not enough to say do we have an emcee, that's generic. But if you ask for Tarkas or a Melchizedek or for Michael, you are likely to get your emcee. But be explicit. That didn't work in the past, but it works now, Lemuel. For you, Elise, you're doing fine. You have your assigned spirit hosts and cohosts. And for that reason, be aware that you Elise are doing fine and that Michael is going to insist you appear in York before the year's end. You do not have concerns about how. And finally, this to you, Dominick. This has got to be heard. You have arranged with a construction engineer on the west coast to review for Ron and you and the Magisterial Foundation three very important points. One is, can you give us a cost estimate, real-time for what this plant is going to cost? The next two items Ron, are; you have asked for a reasonable understanding of what the courses are that you must be regulated by the government. He needs to outline it for you so you know something of what you're in for that you have to regulate. And the third item Ron is to render an architectural drawing as briefly and as out of his head, he can of what the plant would look like, on its 30 acres. He looks at it and says I love the assignment. I will do it. The other two are a piece of cake. There is a telephone conference Monday morning or I beg your pardon Monday afternoon or actually Monday evening. It's at seven. Yeah. For this to take place, and it will, and we will be listening as well. We thank you, Dominick. And so does Ron very much. And finally, to all of you who are listening through the Internet audio device, it is much clearer and easier to deal with than streaming. Ron can't get anybody to service the streaming and wishes it taken down. But we're going to insist it is fixed and brought back into health. We have our ways with that, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Well, I thank you. It's a tremendous help. Thank you very much.

Tarkas  
Thank you. And finally this from Tarkas, I have made application to work on Urantia and now that I'm one of the party of the planetary government.

Ron Besser  
I just chuckle at the almost non-sequitur of someone who lives on Paradise being part of the regular government. It, it, I chuckle.

Tarkas  
Thank you. And I chuckle too. Who would have ever thought that One Without Name and Number and there are a couple of others, want to be on Urantia to see what really happens with this whole big mix of surprising universe changes that are first put into effect on Urantia and you heard right the first time changes will happen on Urantia. And now this: the trust that we must have Ron is that your friend and others have good reasons.

Ron Besser  
I accept that.

Tarkas  
Yes. And for reasons of state you Ron must step back temporarily while we figure out how you managed to cut your own hair today and make it look like a professional job.

Ron Besser  
I've become a professional.

Tarkas  
Oh, I see.  

Ron Besser  
Yes, since COVID-19 and the lack of barbers I've cut my own hair, and I'm learning quite how well how to do it. Nuff said.

Tarkas  
Now this: the truth of the matter is Ron, that we Tarkas, Henson, and Jack, the fraidy cat are all here.

Ron Besser  
That's a surprise, especially cats.

Tarkas  
Yes, thank you. And for that reason, Ron, we are going to go to another transmitter here. Yes.

Ron Besser  
And Lemuel, we're coming to you if I can find you on this list. I found you. If you would transmit, please, for about the next five to 10 minutes. Are you there?

Lemuel  
Yes, I'm here. Ron, thank you, I'll do my best. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
And the person you're going to speak to first I'm told is Machiventa Melchizedek, who is also a Paradise personality, working on the planetary government in Urantia. We are all atingle Machiventa and thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser
Go ahead, Lemuel.

Lemuel  
Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  31:50
Well, good afternoon, everyone, or good evening, wherever you are, indeed I am Machiventa Melchizedek and you've just been informed of something that I personally did not realize that it would be announced in such a way as it just has, through Ron from Tarkas. The situation is such that because of the changes that are about to take place, that is to say, especially with the time and the age groups that you've been informed of, but there is still a tremendous amount of information still to come on that. So don't think that it is written in stone. But I can tell you that it will definitely take place. And but I cannot tell you exactly when for reasons of state. Well bearing that in mind of course if you are in that particular age group, especially the younger one, from zero to what was it I can't remember 18 is it, or 30, I can't remember. Yes, I think it was zero to 30, then obviously, you will be very, very concerned and worried about what is to take place and how it will take place. Well, that information will be sent out to you or broadcast so to speak on a Light Line as soon as it possibly can be known. For the older group, while the same thing applies in the sense that you will have to wait and be patient until it is finalized exactly what, how, and when your group will be affected by the time changes. And what has not been mentioned is that the older age group as you refer to it has been referred to as your war babies. Well, yes, yes more or less. I mean, Lemuel is already in his 84th year. He has recently completed 83. And I'm not going to even go there as regards to what's gonna happen to the second world war babies, but that remains to be seen. Well, in any case obviously, you are here for a reason and you are bearing witness to all these changes that are about to take place. And yes, they are mind-boggling. But because of the new universe age and all the other things have taken place since or during the last, what is it now, three years; just over. So many things have come together so many things have become evident to be needed. But the biggest thing of all now and most recently is, of course, the changing of time. This really is a big deal. And we shall see how this develops because well, even for me, and the rest of us, it really is a big deal and the future holds tremendous changes because of that. So we shall see. All right. But yes, I am still I'm still a Planetary Manager and along with the rest of my duties with my order of Melchizedek, they are still on the ground, so to speak those 13 or 30, what is it now? No, it's 13, in strategic places around the globe, they are still working, and they still report it back to me on a regular basis. But for state reasons or state, obviously, I cannot tell you what that is about. Alright. Well, I step back now. So thank you Lemuel for picking me up. This is Machiventa Melchizedek. And I bid you all a very good afternoon.

Lemuel  
Well, thank you Machiventa Melchizedek. Thank you. (Silence) Well, is it Henson? Well, I'm not, I'm not sure. Well, the name I'm picking up is Henson. So if it is Henson, you're very welcome. Please go ahead.

Henson  37:30
Well, yes, indeed, thank you Lemuel this is Henson. I am also One Without Name and Number. And I can confirm what you have just been informed of that I along with Tarkas and Bzutu in fact, will be here. Yes, on Urantia. Well for two reasons really. One for us ourselves, to find out what's going on and how, how all you people tick, so to speak. We have to learn or rather, we have to approach what we do from a different angle because of working with you humans on a certain level. But remember, bear in mind, we are Ones Without Name and Number, and for that reason alone, we have to be very, very careful about what we are able to do not to have too much of an effect on you guys. But in fact, it will be very interesting for us. Apart from that, the future, of course, the main reason that we are here is because of the time changes that are about to take place. This is an unprecedented situation, really, obviously, a change in time, throughout the whole Master Universe. Well, this has never ever been contemplated before. So it really is, as Machiventa Melchizedek said, it really is a big deal. In fact, there is no bigger deal that I can think of than to have a time change throughout the whole of the Master Universe. And as you've just been informed the time change will affect different age groups and this is something that has to be finalized and that's going to take a little time. And yes, I say a little time, no pun intended. In fact, at the moment, there's very little I can tell you because it's at the beginning of this process, so to speak. So, as I say there's nothing much that I can tell you. Anyway, I repeat, I am Henson, One Without Name and Number and I am here along with Tarkas and Bzutu. And I'm sure we will enjoy our stay here and we are really looking forward to it. And with those few words, I step back now and I thank Lemuel for timely picking me up. Thank you.

Lemuel  
Well, thank you, Henson. Thank you so much for those few words. Thank you. (silence)

Ron Besser  
Lemuel, this is Ron.

Lemuel  
I'm not picking up anyone else Ron at the moment.

Ron Besser  
That's what I thought was going on. However, I've just been told by Machiventa Melchizedek, keep it open and try to bring him in.

Lemuel  
Try to bring who in, Machiventa?

Ron Besser  
Machiventa Melchizedek. (silence) In the meantime, while you're waiting, let me know when you're ready, Lemuel, in the meantime, I will tell you this. The entire reason for this exercise is to allow you, Lemuel, to get accustomed to the idea that you're going to be used as a speaker for some of the new personnel that is arriving on Urantia even today as we speak. They are not used to living on a planet that has no speaker. You are a speaker. I am a speaker. The other hosts are speakers when called upon, but Lemuel and Ron are called upon 24 hours a day. And for that reason, you have to get used to it Lemuel and there's no better time than when we're all together here.

Lemuel
Yes. All right, thank you.

Ron Besser
So, put your antenna out and receive Machiventa if he can find his way back here.

Lemuel  
All right.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
All right, yes, I have found my way back. Thank you, Lemuel. This is Machiventa Melchizedek, I'm here again. Well, I've not missed anything. I've known exactly what has been said over the past few minutes or so. And well I just want to add something, that Ron has just said to you, Lemuel. The fact is that you are potentially a tremendous speaker for high spirit. And as Ron just said, you need to get your act together and to be more confident and also just to practice. You will be called upon to speak more and more. And so you will just have to get used to it. But what I am aware of from the beginning that you are capable and not only are you capable, you are willing and you are determined to be of service if you can, and we appreciate that very much and I can assure you that you will be of service, Lemuel. Thank you. Okay, well apart from that. Yes, it is amazing, really. And also for me, that Father has given the go-ahead for the return of those Ones Without Name and Number to be here to witness such a tremendous change that is about to take place because of the changes in time. And also because of the possibility that these Ones Without Name and Number; Tarkas, Bzutu, and Henson will be able to use their experience on this level of that is to say on a planetary level that working alongside human beings so to speak. They will have that tremendous experience and knowledge to take to other situations other planets when it becomes necessary in the future because these time changes as you've just been informed will take place here first and foremost here on Urantia. Yes, Lemuel just told me in morontia. Wow, what a planet - Urantia! Well, yes, it is when you think of everything that has taken place on Urantia, and to think that now? Wow, yes, it is mind-boggling Lemuel. Yes, it is, considering what has happened to this beautiful blue planet over so many 1000s upon 1000s or hundreds of thousands of years. And now, because of what took place initially, three years ago, that was the start of it really three years ago. And y'all know what I'm referring to. Since then, it became necessary for Father to inaugurate a new universe age, by little other things are taking place. So it became necessary, even more changes need to take place. Why? Why is it that so many things go wrong in a system of time? Because that, ladies and gentlemen, is what it's all about. All the problems that this planet not just the planet, but throughout the Master Universe, have taken because of time. Well, the changes in time that are about to take place, will

Lemuel  
What's the word he's looking for?

Machiventa Melchizedek  
will concentrate initially on three age groups. The problems that the young bring to the fore, and the different types of problems that the older age when that happens. When I say problems, I'm thinking of situations negative, that is not good, well, yes, of course, Lemuel is thinking of the word rebellion, but I don't want to use the word rebellion. What I am intimating at is the need for the time to change is to identify the reasons why things go wrong. And we want to identify what goes on in a particular age group. And as I said, now, there will be three age groups to begin with. And so we will have over time, a tremendous amount of information, which would be a tremendous advantage when other planets, other universes become involved with these changes. And so, yes, well, that's enough for now. That's all they want to say again, this is Machiventa Melchizedek. And I thank you, Lemuel, once more, and I say good afternoon to all of you once again. Good afternoon.

Lemuel  
Well, thank you Machiventa Melchizedek, thank you so much. (Silence) No one else at the moment Ron. I'm not picking up anyone else at the moment.

Ron Besser  
All right, I, I have to be your housemaid, here. The doorbell has rung and an individual wishes to speak to you know very well. I believe it's Jesus. Go ahead.

Lemuel  
All right, thank you, Ron. Ah, yes. Oh, welcome, Jesus. Thank you.

Jesus 49:07
Thank you. Lemuel. Yes, this is Jesus. And I see you all are now wondering what I can say to you. Given the state of the situation at the moment, and all the changes that you are you have been informed of that are about to take place. And of course, you may well be asking, Well, yes, what has happened to Jesus? What about the mission? When is he going to come or not? Yes, but believe it or not, I've asked myself the same question from time to time. But seriously, I will be here. I am not going away. The Jesus mission will go ahead and so will the Magisterial Missions. Everything is still on board and you all know what we have been waiting for. That is still the confirmation that the planning has terminated and everything else can go ahead. The time changes that are planned for will go ahead in such a way that it will not, this is difficult for you to understand, but that will not interfere with the missions. Now, I know this is probably difficult for you to get your heads around, well don't try. My message to you is that my mission is to go ahead along with the other missions and so yes, rest assured. I would also like to mention the fact that I personally am so pleased to hear that Urantia is going to be blessed to have such a service from such high personages as Those Without Name and Number; Tarkas, Henson, and Bzutu. They will be able to have a tremendous effect on what is to take place to human subjects for them to learn and for you as human beings to learn what is to come in the future. There's nothing else I can think that would be of use to say to you at the moment so once again I will repeat; rest assured that all is well, be patient, carry on with your normal daily routine and you will see things change very soon indeed. You can keep watching the news and see what happens very very shortly. I step back now and I bid you all a good day. Thank you.

Lemuel  
Well, thank you, Jesus. Thank you for those few words. Thank you so much. Yes, well this is Lemuel again and I will just hang on to see if there's someone else here. Just give me a moment. (silence) Yes, oh welcome Arthura.

Arthura  
Yes, indeed Lemuel. Yes, I have been waiting. It is me I am Arthura. And I only want to say a few words to confirm for my part as you know, as you now know all know I am from hyperinfinity and I can phase down right all the way down to a level of a midwayer. But now that so many of us have been assigned to Urantia or some to Salvington but Urantia that must tell you that something tremendous is going on here and about to continue and you are all involved in this you really are bearing witness to history and you are part of this history. It is really a wonderful time for you to be alive and experience what is going on. But as you all know, and understand you have been prepared for this practically throughout the whole of your lives. It is no coincidence. Your individual Thought Adjusters knew of your potential before they volunteered to take you on as their wards. Now, you've all been involved with this, and you understand this and it is true. This is the case. So here you are, at this tremendous moment in the history of this planet. Well, a history now of the Master Universe that is about to change, to some degree. Well, it remains to be seen, it's meant to be played out. But we are all part of it, we, and you are part of this change, this historical change. And it's just wonderful. So I encourage you to keep on keeping on with what you were doing. And let's see what happens in the future. So that's all I have to say. Thank you very much. I step back now.

Lemuel  
Well, thank you so much, Arthura. Thank you so much for those words. All right. Thank you, Ron. I hand this back to you now Ron, if I may. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, there's nobody else there Lemuel, and I thank you very much for your service. And thank you to the speakers very much.

Arthura  
This is Arthura through Ron now. I have saved the best for last Ron.

Ron Besser  
Yes, Arthura.

Arthura  
Yeah, you're used to being last.

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Arthura  57:17
Anyhow, this: the entire matter that is going on with your phone today is an instruction to the circuit that feeds your phone company, that it is to be truncated if ordered. But the fact of the matter is, it's never been ordered for the simple reason that you have been producing a Light Line that requires a lot of thinking, a lot of thought over what to do about the insurrection, the cabal, and the Lucifer rebellion. Those states of despair are to be removed entirely. Time cannot tolerate them. That to you, Ron says that this is almost divine and I will say that that is the case. Up until now, time has been allowed to make error. Your lives are full of error, but success too. Please understand that if we make time more coincident with the Divine Will there's a lot less chance people will fall into cults, cabals, insurrections, and sedition. Father is seriously looking at it as a way to tamp down to call the awful warlike materials being let loose in time today because the supreme refused to deal with a reality that perfection is in mind and not just his hegemony for that particular reason, then we're going to say, watch out. You may find that using time in the near future requires you to be prepared to do what you decide to do. Ron has done so and is successful. He spent 10 years in preparation before you have a patent for free electricity. It's about to be in his mailbox. For that reason, the Planning Commission has been assigned to find some money. Two of you could care less. Well, if that's the case, you're going to be removed. You don't belong on the planning commission. Three of you are fully aware that it is essentially vastly important you find some big bucks. We appreciate every cent we can get. You are thanked mightily for the good work that you have done. Those who have freely seen to tithing to the Magisterial Foundation. That's what some of you have done, and it has saved the day. Thank you. For that reason, I Arthura recommend that you, George, be in close consultation. Because frankly, George, when a colonel writes a letter, they listen. Use your title, please. Furthermore, Ron, when you speak, they will listen. The Patent Office of the United States says this is worth patenting. It's worth protection. Go for it. And finally, to you Elise, the entire matter is a bit of a fog and humdrum. You don't understand what Ron has asked. Not unusual for you Elise. It's not because your brain is bad it's because you always question authority. And for that reason, Stephen Gitz, you haven't even read the email yet. And Phyllis you're too ill, we leave that alone for now. Steven, you're quite capable of getting this money, but you won't do it. Ron understands. But it's critical now that you read the last memo to the Planning Commission and to the response that Ron sent to George this morning. It tells you how. Now, this for the rest of you. There's nothing stopping you, from doing the work that Ron has recommended to the planning commission. What you do is you find an institution that wants to help the environment or anything related to it and who gives grants. Go in and find out. If you find that institution, how they want you to apply for money. It's a grant. It doesn't own. Send one in. Ask for it. That's what Ron is asking. Everybody to do. That's where the money is big enough to sustain the Magisterial Foundation. Ron has been asked to spend $18,500 to secure the patent. He spent about 14,000, actually $11,000 so far. We need 1000s to take care of the cost. For that reason, he's asked the Planning Commission to attempt to find grants. We need grants until we understand how we're going to build this plant. We need to operate with a much bigger kitty than we are operating now, we need your help. The world needs your help. This is doable. There is now a patent.

Arthura
And finally, this is Arthura once more. That was Michael of Nebadon. Ron.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Michael. I guessed, I wasn't sure.

Arthura  
Yes, I know. Now this to you and Michael, Ron, I'm Arthura. I have now received permission to work on Urantia as I may choose. You Ron are the one I will work through. I never met a human who can do what you do and be successful in spite of a guerrilla warfare against you. They don't pull their punches they have hit you hard and at times you think you're dying, well not so. For reasons of state the entire matter of death for any of you right now is moot. We cannot subscribe to the few of those of you who know what you are doing, who know what it takes, and who know how to do it to be removed just as we are so critical in need. We can't let you leave. Unless you are run over by a steamroller, you will be here. This is Arthura Ron, I love your machines.

Ron Besser  
That one is for sure Arthura.

Arthura  
Yes, Ron. Stop it. He showed me a steamroller with birthday balloons on it.

Michael of Nebadon  
Now this: the truth of the matter is this is Michael of Nebadon. Get your breath, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I have chokers around me.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes, we know that Ron, just a minute. You are removed. Now, this is Michael of Nebadon. We are over we've spent our time for Light Line USA on Sunday. Raz when you go to write this one up, it's a big one, if you will, please. You do so well. Those transcripts are wonderful. Now, to you, Ron in particular. They've hit your legs so hard they're almost brittle. You can almost have to pick them up to put them somewhere. That's a cripple. You refuse to be a cripple and use the cane hard. We are going to do something about it, as promised many times before, but this time we have to. George Meyer, we admire your tenacity and pernicious way of saying how do I do this? Ron told you in today's email to you find an institution by googling grants for environmental work, or anything else you can think of to hone down the organization that gives money to help people who want to help. That's what you're looking for and it's done by Google. That's the same for you Elise and anyone else. For the time being the entire matter of money Ron is what you can raise by beating the forest to see if you can get grants or find a deep-pocket donor. You need several 10s of 1000s to keep up with the charges. You had another $5,000 charge come in yesterday. You sent back and said, you're not quite ready to deal with it yet. The attorney will understand. And for that purpose, Ron, stay away from letting him know your thinking because he blasts it all over the place.

Ron Besser  
I'm glad he does.

Cabal  
I am to Mike.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael. I don't know what that is in your ear, but it is not going to work. Now this: I'm Michael of Nebadon. Our time is up for this Sunday. I would love to open it for Q&A. But we're taking too much time of your Sunday to do that right now. I'm recommending Ron, that you end the tape now.

Ron Besser  
One moment Michael.

end

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  • 110122 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser
  • Subjects: about 13% of Voronandek Sons on Edentia have joined the rebellion, 13 Melchizedeks, as well as both the Monjoronson and Serara contingencies, are incarnated, and Ron hears Universal Father and Machiventa Melchizedek transmitting simultaneously; speakers: Tarkas, Arthura, Jesus, Monjoronson, Machiventa Melchizedek, Universal Father, Michael of Nebadon, Aya - Master Spirit 7, Cabal, and Vorondadek Son 141517.
  • Transcribed By: RAZ
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20221101_110246

Ron Besser  
Hello, everybody, this is Light Line Tuesday, new month, November 1, 2022. I'm Ron Besser, your host.

Tarkas  
This is Tarkas, Ron.

Ron Besser  
We welcome you Tarkas very much. Please go ahead if you wish.

Tarkas  
Thank you. The truth of the matter is that the insurrection that you all dislike so much, has expanded exponentially, mainly because the constellation, the capital Edentia, has joined the rebellion by about 13% of the Vorondadek Sons stationed there going into rebellion. This seriously affects everything you do, everything we intend to do, and what we need to do. This Light Line may be the last for a week or so, primarily because the interference with us and with the landline that Ron uses as his phone, he doesn't use his cell phone, is subject to great Vorondadek and Lanonandek interference. Ron had nothing but a fight this morning. He is fine, he was protected and all of you are under protection as well, particularly as we hold a Light Line. The truth of the matter is that Arthura arrived at 2709 early this morning and saw to it that Ron was okay. For that reason, we have had a good exchange privately with Ron and in part with Dominick. Now, the point that we would like to make is that the lung capacity of yourself Ron seems to be badly affected. And for that reason, you're speaking carefully and slowly. For reasons of state, that is not cabal, that is Arthura and Michael and a few others on staff, you don't know. They're here to make sure that the Vorondadek substitute that is here today is also a genuine supporter of Michael. The breath that Ron has to use is being transported into a soliloquy that is meant only for that representative. If he wishes he may speak now.

Vorondadek Son 141517  3:52
I am Vorondadek Son 141517. That's my serial number or at least the last few digits. For that reason, I am stating to Arthura and the powers to be that I am not cabal and that I am leery of Light Line reports which suggest that Edentia is in rebellion. I do not like the idea. I do not want the idea. And I seriously object to this process. If I am not released at once I am leaving in disgust.

Arthura  
This is Arthura. You may leave.

Vorondadek Son 141517  
We leave.

Arthura  
This is Arthura. Now Tarkas please go ahead.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Arthura. Go ahead, Tarkas.

Tarkas  
Thank you. We are pleased Ron with a protocol that is abrupt. Now this: the Vorondadek invasion of 2709 is over Ron. You say I don't see how they can do it, they leak in at every chance. Yes. And, we thank you for the news. Thank you, Ron. The truth of the matter is that individual is the supreme commander of the insurrection. He is foolishly thinking that if we allow him in he may speak. But we have isolated him, so that this Light Line may go forward without further interruption. We are also of the opinion that the small number that you have today is entirely the fault of the Sunday Light Line, and entirely. Most people don't like to be lectured. But Michael lectured. And you fully agreed with him.

Ron Besser  
I did.

Tarkas  
Thank you. The truth of the matter is that the membership on this discussion forum is now seriously divided. Ron doesn't care. But he will see to it that discussions are appropriately posted and that there is no personality, assassination. He demands it. None of you are guilty of it. There is one on internet audio who is purposely proposing an indigestion problem. Ron knows which one, you're in jeopardy of being totally removed. Now this: the trial that we must propose is the following. Light lines hereafter are allowed to continue but if there's any shenanigans like a particular audio internet account is pulling you can be removed by controls that Ron has. You're dangerously close and you know who you are. Number two, Lemuel you are in the hands of the insurrectionists more than you know, but take no precautions. First of all, be careful. But second of all, start listening to what you say.

Cabal  
And third, there is grave danger that the entire matter of Light Lines may be removed, right may be removed including Sunday.

Ron Besser
Just a minute, please.

Arthura
This is Arthura. Thank you, Ron. We've got em. Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
We have a little incident here but I can go on.

Arthura  
The truth of the matter is that that little incident is the supreme commander trying to force his way back in Ron and doing his damnedest to disrupt your speech. You felt it, you knew it. Now to the rest of you. You're innocent. You are our support. And finally, those of you who did name yourselves today are most welcome all the time. There's a few on the internet audio, you're only known by a four-digit number to Ron. But he's got a little device on the side that shows when the disturbance occurs, which microphone is doing it.

Cabal  
Now this: the truth of the matter is the loss of life in South Korea.

Ron Besser
And that is worthy of speech right now. That's Ron asking that.

Cabal
And this is a Vorondadek Son, who will not relent.

Ron Besser
Au contraire, asshole. You're gone.

Arthura
This is Arthura, thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I apologize for my language, but they deserve nothing less.

Arthura  
Now this: for reasons of state Ron has properly assigned the individual to oblivion. For reasons of state I am Arthura and cannot permit that slip of protocol, Ron, not for you but for us. We are not used to hearing swearing.

Ron Besser  
Arthura, that was mild.

Arthura  
Thank you. Yes, in deference to us, yeah. Well, we accept the apology then. Good day.

Michael of Nebadon  11:54
Now, this is Michael of Nebadon, Ron it's a test of wills. That when one of those people as you call what you called them, has learned to do and has unlearned it because it doesn't work. The rest of you hosts whether you're hearing it now or hearing it in the tape, please understand, you are now necessarily being sensitive to the intrusion of the rebellion. Urantia is loaded. Ron says when the Lucifer rebellion occurred, you sealed all the circuits, we couldn't use them.

Ron Besser  
Is that about to be offered, Michael?

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you for the question. Ron. Yes, we may take down all communication circuits, including Light Line circuits, if they persist. You can think and thank the divine Vorondadek Sons for keeping them open to this point. But this is Michael refusing that intrusion once more and assuming that you value your life, the next one ends it. Now this to you, Ron. Your illness has perpetuated a churlishness over a test of wills that is insufferable. You are forgiven for calling it out as you did. But Arthura

Ron Besser  
Is he pale?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes, Ron, he is pale. And we go on then. Thank you. The truth of the matter is it's almost required to beat back what is insufferable disunity among a divine order of sonship. They will learn. Many of you are learning for the first time what a real rebellion is about. It is not about merely staying safe in your home. They're after you and your mind and your heart all the time. Watch it while this is put back in the box. And now this: we have one statement for all of you to hear worthy of a Light Line and it is this: the statements we have made over the past six weeks are still valid.  V A L I D Valid. We are not changing the mission. We are not going to do anything to disrupt the appearance of WTP or any other plans that are still moribund due to the insurrection now on Edentia. That beautiful place is smeared. That's what I want to tell you about. The constellation Norlatiadek is no longer in charge of the planetary system of Satania. It has no ability to rule and the good guys are holed up in a sector the rebellion cannot enter. For that reason, then Ron, please understand that the new constellation that you are under anyhow is not named to the group. That includes Ron, Dominick, Elise, Rene, to certain extent Clency, and to a certain extent, to one or two others you do not know about. In case I forgot to mention it, Elise, you're with Ron. For that reason, there is now a total disruption of the hierarchy of spirit control. Ron is quite sure that the circuits probably will be shut down. I'm not sure myself, Ron. But you are in remembrance of what it was like before the Light Line, er I beg your pardon the teaching mission. You had nothing whatsoever. Now this: you're allowed to speak out loud, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I thank you. All I said is, yes. Before the teaching mission, it was dead. There was no news for 70 years practically from Salvington.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. That is reasonably stated. Now this: if that happens again, folks Urantia is going to be one of the few places the entire universe can go to because the Magisterial Foundation is going to stay open. Ron will be involved in providing you updates. He has a secure method. We use it and he's glad to use it for you. He cannot transmit if the circuits are in quarantine, but he will post regular updates on the discussion forum. And somehow some of you have got to learn to read it if that's what you want. He could care less about others being insulted Sunday. That just tells us they have not matured enough to understand that it is a two-way street and that man doesn't have all good news. Man's gonna get a lot of bad news and we're letting you know where it is. For that particular reason, we must also revoice the idea that you're probably going to lose one or two of your membership to natural death, it cannot be helped now. The full fury of the intrusion of Vorondadeks is not going to go away easily and we have to be harsh. For that reason I stand back because I am their Father, please remember that, it tears my heart. Also to you, Ron, you're right with me. Thank you. The truth of the matter is so are all of you, except one. And that one is removed shortly. The truth of the matter is it's 7597. You don't know your number Ron does. And finally this: the entire matter that must be addressed between you, Dominick, Elise, perhaps Raz, and perhaps Rene, and certainly Clency and that is the Light Lines that are now speaking and supporting you so well Ron are under strain to be taken down by their own choice. If that happens, let it happen. You have already decided that. And finally this: there are several of you who transmit perfectly well. One is called Amethyst. Yes, you wanted to take time to do your book but we are asking you to come back into service. Let Ron know if you would please. For the rest of you, Ron says you are too untested, to take a Light Line at this point. And he lets it lie. And finally this: the entire matter of this Light Line for Tuesday is now a subject for an open question as to how necessary it is again. Ron is gonna let it run as long as there is a good audience. There is attendance and interest. But if it shades off too much, we're going to leave the entire matter in the hands of the Father, and Ron will be informed. This is not or was not meant to be a lecture and a chastisement. But we're forced into it for the simple reason that the entire matter that is pending on Urantia is to determine who is and who is not useful. Ron says to me this afternoon, we are now face to face Michael with the problems of support with a reduction of communication from you. I now look at the Urantia Foundation as a pool of support in the old way. I cannot stomach most of them for their inability to modernize their views of the Fifth Epochal Revelation. But Father, maybe you Michael might look at that pool. and evaluate what use it may be to us who already support you fully with changes accepted to the Fifth Epochal Revelation. This is correctly stated by myself, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I speak out loud. That was so much me, I thought it was me.

Michael of Nebadon  
No, Ron, that was Michael. Now this: Arthura has returned.

Ron Besser  
With Milk of Magnesia?

Michael of Nebadon  
No, with a friend of his that helps us all.

Ron Besser  
All right.

Arthura  
It's Jesus.

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you for bringing that in, you've met along the way?

Arthura  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
I'm sorry, I am temporarily on the wrong side. Do you want me to call you what I called him?

Arthura  
No, Ron.

Jesus  26:17
May I be the peace bringer Ron, this is Jesus. And I will speak through you, Ron. I am Jesus. Remember me? I am speaking to every one of you on the list. All 17 counting Ron. We have run into the usual issue of what to do with Jesus when a major insurrection has occurred, right under his doorstep. I don't like it. It's childish. And frankly, Ron calls them children. They are selfish and greedy of their own power and no one will tolerate that in a grown-up spirit world. I ran through the Lucifer rebellion when I was bestowal on your planet. It is exceedingly unpleasant to face. You read of the transcript in the Urantia Book. And believe me, it was much worse because the midwayers cleaned it up. Ron has cleaned up an awful lot for you to hear. He hears the raw power, the anger, the attacks. You get the pure transcript. You do not get the jibber jabber he has to force down or have removed. That is what I dealt with and I will not deal with it again. That's why I'm telling you this everybody. Those of you who have their heart set on me appearing in the visible, will not be disappointed. But I might not be at big rallies. Thanks to your technology, I can appear on a screen safely tucked away in my own home. I'm going to do that, to begin with. The entire idea of a Regency starting with the United States is to begin at once. Ron cheered when he heard it yesterday. I cheer with you too Ron so that they can hear me today. The truth of the matter is that you look at it not as a game but as a war and frankly it is a war now. They will not take hostages, they will kill you. The leadership of the Vorondadek Sons is a transfer from another estate, it is among the worst leadership we have ever had among Vorondadeks. It pouts, it sniffs, it carries on, and cries like a baby sometimes. If it doesn't get its way, God help you. I'm so sorry to say this to Arthura. You have to get used to this, Arthura. You are on a material world with a war in spirit. Ron can't follow protocol exactly when the insult is so large. It requires a disgusting response to let them know where they really fit. And now this: you suppressed your laughter Ron, for good reason. That's exactly where they fit and I have a feeling their Father may also tell them that. I want to leave a little room before I go on, for Arthura.

Ron Besser  
We invite you here Arthura if you would like to speak.

Arthura  
I do Ron.

Ron Besser  
Please go ahead Arthura you know, you're most welcome.

Arthura  
Thank you. I love it when you make it clear where I stand. The truth of the matter is, I am from hyperinfinity. I live outside of the Master Universe. Get used to it. Ron has finished an eloquent paper on the subject. He wants to do a word check on it one more time but he better publish it now if you're ever going to see it. I say that to you, Ron in particular.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Arthura  
Now this: as Arthura I have been sent as a representative for hyperinfinity, low enough in our own cast to speak to connections to the material. Ron is the best I ever found and I speak to you Ron in particular. The motion you feel right now is against a wound you have occurred because of the Vorondadek rebellion. They're going to pay for it. But that will be removed and you will look better in general.

Ron Besser  
The world will thank you, Arthura, thank you.

Arthura  
I am now instituting the right to remain silent. Except for this: Jesus is one hell of a fellow you will love to know Him. Someday perhaps, underline perhaps you can go to a rally and hear him speak. There's nothing like it. Ron was supposed to appear with him but Ron is stuffed back into his chair in front of the television for the duration. And Dominick will continue to help. We turn this back to you Jesus. And thank you for letting me speak.

Ron Besser  
Thank you Arthura, we enjoyed it too.

Arthura
Thank you.

Ron Besser
Go ahead, Jesus, if you will.

?
Thank you, Ron. You are entirely sure that that is helpful to me.

Ron Besser  
And that is not Jesus.

?
And that is correct.

Universal Father  
I am not speaking under my usual name. I am not cabal Ron. I am the Universal Father. It's always my will be done. You consider me misunderstanding and I am and I apologize. I don't know how this works, but you did not misuse the transmission. Now, Jesus, if you will, please go ahead.

Jesus  
This is Jesus everybody, don't misconfigure this, that is the Vorondadek Son doing his damnedest to cause a split. Ron knows perfectly well and Father does, what the slip was. It is my will to speak and I do so.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Jesus. Please go ahead.

Jesus  36:18
Thank you, Ron. The truth of the matter is that you Lemuel would love to do this voice but you are subject to the Vorondadek Sons now entirely. Watch what you say, and stop transmitting when you know it's not right. Also, you're going to have to learn to deal with unknown names and perhaps the depth of conversation you're not used to. You've got a real challenge, Lemuel. You can face it or stand down. We hope you face it. And finally this: to all of you. I am Jesus and I want you to understand you are my flock. I was born among you, Homo sapiens. I am now appearing as Homo spiritus. Elise is already Homo spiritus, and so is Ron. They fit each other like a glove. Dominick is almost there. George Meyer so are you, you're so humble that helped tremendously. The rest of you have a little work to do. But you are all on the track to becoming Homo Spiritus. Unfortunately, it's an older group and parent or parenting is over for you. How this gets passed on is only known to Father.

Universal Father  
And now this, Ron. I am your Universal Father. And for that reason, I want you to understand that the true identity is another one known to you as. (no name stated -sentence ends)  

Ron Besser  
All right, thank you.

Universal Father  
I want you to know that the entire reason for telling you that is it is a trusted friend who no longer accepts anything you say.

Ron Besser  
All right. May I speak?

Universal Father  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
Only this Father. It doesn't matter what they say. The course is set and like a snowplow. They are merely in the way and passed over the curb. It bothers me not.

Universal Father  
Thank you. I am now of the opinion that individual knows he's been fingered. What a shame. In any case, the truth of the matter is: I see. We are now going to leave this portion of Light Line and reissue another voice.

Jesus  
I am Jesus. I want you to hear Machiventa Melchizedek and his careful analysis of what just happened. We give you Machiventa.

Ron Besser  
We thank you, Jesus, come back. And Machiventa you're most welcome with your strength and your heart. Please continue if you wish.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you, Ron. Your protocols Ron are much better than mine. But I will say this personalizing a welcome is always grand to me and I appreciate it. To the listening group, of which there are 17, now you have made the final choice in your life almost to a man except for one. And that one is lost. Fully discovering who you are, doesn't matter Ron, but you know him well. For that particular reason, the entire matter must be put aside, and as Ron says the snowplow used. I do like the analogy.

Ron Besser  
I would too.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Yes, Ron.

Ron Besser  
A personal side, folks.

Machiventa Melchizedek  42:31
All right and it's this: when Ron says anything like that there is an issue pending, he can't resolve. And we'll let it go at that. Now this: you need to all understand that the insurrection that is now occurring on Urantia has been smothered. What you also have to understand is that you Lemuel, are in a dangerous position. You ought to discuss it with Ron, and for God's sake, try to remember what he says. He tells you the truth. You don't like it. But so what, it's the truth? Discuss it with him. Second of all, the truth of the matter is that you Lemuel have been led astray twice now. Let Ron tell you how. Ron doesn't interfere because he feels your importance is good enough that we leapfrog over what is spilled. And finally, this: as Machiventa Melchizedek, Ron your legs have been torn out from under you. You are in a fit of despair. Yet you never waver. The truth of the matter is either do I and for that reason, you are made whole, I guarantee it. Yes, Ron, thank you. Now this: you Dominick have an important trip ahead of you. We need not discuss it further. However, Ron has properly warned you. Take heed and we'll drop this. Furthermore, to the rest of you. Ron can't be with each of you, in fact, he can't be with any of you for the simple reason, distance is overwhelming. But you should hear the lectures, every evening that Dominick is there, that bursts forth into that living room. You would be educated beyond what you are now. For that reason, Ron, you chuckle a little and say that's faith. I see why. But the truth of the matter is, you get information that should be shared here, but do you remember this? When the apostles questioned Jesus, He said, be reassured whenever two of you are gathered in my name, so there I am. That's what happens when Dominick joins Ron, the circuit is closed, it is met. For that reason, he was invited here today, but can't. The circuitry is so improved when two are gathered in my name. I go deeply into what spirit feels and am in presence to make it heard. That's what's missing folks with a Light Line. You are all gathered in His name. We make amends to allow this to happen, in spite of physically not being present, but the circuit is weak. Now this: Ron I know of the issue you speak to, and you're not particularly interested, only because it sits right beside what you just said.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
And we aren't going to discuss it.

Ron Besser  
Well, that's fine.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Truly, it's fine with you.

Ron Besser  
It is. It is a side issue. I think many know about but don't use.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
I fully agree with that. And that is?

Ron Besser  
A word that is Jewish.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
That you can't think of because it's somehow blocked.

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
And we let it be. This is Machiventa Melchizedek. Let me do one bit of analysis for you. The truth of the matter is Ron didn't know that this Light Line would be all his to do again, either. But we're going to make it that way. We need you to attend here, Dominick if you're well enough, if not, that is fine, don't worry about it. But the second reason that is pending for both of you is that Rayson helped you put together an outline last evening on how to redo a tape. I don't want that tape done at all right now. Just leave it sit on the side. Use it when you need to use it and you will. For that particular reason to you Dominick, in particular, the reason that anything exists between you and Ron at this point is your work. Ron is too ill to do almost anything else. He knows it, you know it, I know it and the leadership of Spirit knows it. But the Vorondadek Sons are piercing that illness with more poison. For reasons of state, I will not go into it but Ron was harmed medically by a little issue done by a Vorondadek that is estranging even us. There's a bump on Ron's forehead at the hairline. He put medicine on it and a bandage. The next morning the bandage had been torn off and a replica of the injury was printed underneath it. Bump, medical condition, and the appearance of a bandaid below it. Ron says how in the world did I do that? You didn't Ron, that is Luciferian evil beyond words. It goes beyond iniquity. And finally this: if you can believe that understand that the entire matter of everything else in Ron has been medically redone to prevent further evil. Ron doesn't talk about it but we are very much aware of it. That is what happens when you are face to face with the devil. Very serious consideration is to remove Norlatiadek. Very serious consideration is to remove Urantia and worse yet perhaps Michael of Nebadon. The entire matter of Uversa and Michael is sweet and sincere and with Paradise but where in the hell did Edentia get the idea it knew better? (long silence) Yes, Ron is holding a conversation with me that's opened my eyes. He called me Father then Machiventa. He just told me he hears both at the same time. Thank you. For that reason, Ron, I'm being exceedingly careful now, for my little lecture. The truth of the matter is that none of this will be carried out but it is part of the discussion. Ron has insisted, since September 2019 the only way you get rid of sedition and insurrection in this case, is to exemplify they no longer exist. He said extermination. He doesn't have the other concept. For that reason, Ron the entire matter concerning the problems with Light Line pales with the problems with Edentia and now one other little sphere. There is a minor universe within the Dominion that has been insulted by your name over and over and they are seeking vengeance. Yes, Ron, you may speak.

Ron Besser  
I suspect Machiventa/Father that this is an intrusion of the open rebellion, you must snuff out wherever it occurs. I don't know how to address a municipal universe. But I assure you they have better things to do than worry about Ron and his insults. I thank you for letting me respond. Thank you Machiventa.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you, Ron, fully approved by Father. The truth of the matter of fact is it's no municipal universe. It is Edentia all over again in another planetary system.

Ron Besser  
Spilling the poison everywhere. How wonderful.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you.

(material deleted as requested)

Universal Father  
This is the Universal Father. Ron correctly said to me, Father, what do you wish to do with this? And I said you do not respond with speech. (material deleted as requested) And now this Ron, remember to put the transcript up.

Ron Besser  
I will, it takes the service maybe up to an hour to put the tape up. Then I can transfer it.

Universal Father  
Thank you.

Ron Besser  
And then I forget.

Universal Father  
Thank you.

Ron Besser  
That's what happens.

Universal Father  
Yes. Now this: Roger Raz, takes special notice by you.

Ron Besser  
Yeah. His work is superb, consistent, and dependable. I am fully appreciative there is one who is willing to be that, he gets a gold star from me anyhow, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. And from us as well. Thank you, Roger. And now for the rest of you that doesn't condemn you. But the rest of you stopped doing transcripts for the simple reason that Valerie is doing things elsewhere and that Carol Deptula feels totally useless with an inability to take care of long transcripts. Ron is famous for them. Fully, another issue is being taken care of now and dropped. We now review one other little aspect to this before we close; the entire matter of the Magisterial Foundation is still open. It is running. It needs cash to do all the things like Light Line. We're okay at the moment. But in a few moments, not so. The demand for a lot of money is on the table. Please donate if you can. And only if you can. We are deeply appreciative. And now this: Dominick went to the bank yesterday and Carol, your check's in that and it will clear. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Carol's complained she isn't getting canceled checks. I wait a month before I go to the bank. And I thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Now this to the rest of you. You're indifferent. It's not that you don't care. But it is the one place that is openly in your favor. We ask support and thank you. The Magisterial Foundation is going to work in tandem with the Rayson Corporation the matter of fact is that the Magisterial Foundation is owned by us. The Rayson Corporation is owned by Ron. But Rayson is the boss. The reason, let me repeat it, you've heard it before but let me repeat it; why Ron owns the Rayson Corporation is that is where the money has to be spent to build WTP. Spirit never handles money. It's too political. We need to be, as Ron says, as clean as the driven snow. And that's how we're going to see to it. Ron has to write the checks, along with somebody else too, that's why he owns it not for profit. It's a 501(c)(3), a not-for-profit corporation. If there's a profit, we distribute the profits to the people.

Monjoronson  
And now this: I am Magisterial Son Monjoronson.

Ron Besser  
We welcome you Monjoronson. Thank you for joining.

Monjoronson  
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Go ahead, please.

Monjoronson  1:01:37
Thank you. The matter of Machiventa Melchizedek speaking and hearing simultaneous Father is an extraordinary event Ron, do you know that?

Ron Besser  
I have no clue.

Monjoronson  
Thank you. That means that Machiventa Melchizedek has achieved what he set out to achieve. Machiventa is jerking

Ron Besser  
I'm almost with you.

Monjoronson  
back tears. Thank you, Ron. The truth of the matter is, he never heard that before. But then there has never been a transmitter that could hear it. You did. Where this goes, I do not know Ron. You are in love with Father as all of you are. When you make the move to become active in its promotion of that which you love, it activates back to you into being more than you. Ron has learned that in spades. Some of you have already and some of you will die a natural death knowing full well you did your duty. You did the will of God.

AYA - Master Spirit 7  
This is Master Spirit Seven, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I have some catching up to do there. Yes. Thank you Monjoronson.

Monjoronson  
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
And Aya welcome.

AYA - Master Spirit 7  
Aya Ron.

Ron Besser  
Aya welcome. Please continue, if you will.

AYA - Master Spirit 7  
Thank you, Ron. I love the protocol. The choice of Aya, Ron is to make this well-heard on Uversa. But that little protocol slip makes it impossible. Except they need to hear it.

Ron Besser  
Well, you brave Master Spirit. That's Master Spirit.

AYA - Master Spirit 7  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
I understand.

AYA - Master Spirit 7  
Thank you. It's this: Ron your detestation for what they do has to be understood that even on the lowest levels, the iniquity that is let loose in an innocent universe of goodwill is despicable and an anathema even to the Ancients of Days. We are now respecting your choice for extermination because that is what Norlatiadek is inviting. The planetary system of Satania is under a new constellation. We do not name it, we don't want you to know it. What happens in the next few days will be extraordinary revelation but be bolstered by the fact that the Magisterial Mission is already underway again visibly. Yeah. There are now 13 Melchizedeks incarnated as what Ron calls governors in geographical areas all ready to take them on. The Monjoronson contingency is now in the flesh. The Serara contingency is already in the flesh and Ron, you will meet them shortly, you and Dominick. Thank you, Ron. It's such a pleasure to you.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, it is.

AYA - Master Spirit 7  
I will let that go. For one particular reason is that you have had to battle mostly because of distance handling all of the hardware to put this into place. You have the Magisterial Foundation and six 501(c)(3) corporations backing it up. It is a fortress. And we're going to use it. I will settle with this Aya and that is me speaking.

Ron Besser  
That's me practicing.

AYA - Master Spirit 7  
Yes. Aya and that is to stay the course with you, Ron, and all that it matters to you on Urantia. We're going to close the Light Line again, in perpetual silence. We say good day.

Ron Besser  
And we thank you, Aya, and all that have spoken here today. You've got major revelation in this, ladies and gentlemen, parse it, think about it and learn it, at least for the present status. I really appreciate your attending. My throat is dry and a little raw and I'm glad to stop speaking. Thank you so much for listening. Bye-bye, everybody. And oh by the way before you quit, I have no intention of doing a Thursday Light Line unless I'm asked to by the powers to be. I will see you Sunday for sure. Anything else is open to conjecture at this moment until the crisis is passed like the top of a flood going by. Thank you, everybody, and bye-bye.

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Is there anyone who is willing to assist with transcriptions? I will do this one, but my preference is really just to do one a week, the Sunday Light Line. I am happy to run any Light Line audio through Otter transcription service and email you that rough unedited draft if that will be of assistance to you. There are so many of Ron's and Lemuel's Light Lines that are going without transcriptions recently it would be nice to have more transcriptionists.
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  • 103022 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser
  • Subjects: Elyon visits Ron, Elyon and a high Spirit do battle, there is war in Heaven, YouTube video on WTP should be viewed, clarification on the Ancients of Days mandate about immediately ending rebellions, more compossibilities, and use The Urantia Book but know where it is in error; Speakers: Tarkas, Universal Father, Deity Absolute, Michael of Nebadon, Machiventa Melchizedek, Ocilliaya - Master Spirit Four, Uversa - Ancient of Days, and Ron’s Thought Adjuster
  • Transcribed By: RAZ
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20221030_110143

Ron Besser  
Hello, everyone. This is Light Line USA. For Sunday, October 30, 2022. I'm Ron Besser, your host, and I welcome all of you. We now have 21 on the direct call, and welcome.

Tarkas
This is Tarkas, Ron, you've been through a hell of a morning.

Ron Besser  
Yes, Tarkas. And thank you for coming. I don't know what we should tell everybody.

Tarkas  :37
Well, let me tell it. Ladies and gentlemen, this is One Without Name and Number. The problems that have surfaced in the last 24 hours have been excruciating, not only to me, but to Ron, and even to Michael of Nebadon. Yesterday, Ron was trying to stay awake and was fiddling around in his chair, watching the BBC, which we get on cable. And for that reason, he was not particularly honed in on the British politics that are so convoluted, even an American doesn't follow them well. But in any case, the truth of the matter is he was approached by Elyon. Now, Elyon is now a Mighty Messenger. But Ron knew him 30 years ago as a superb teacher, that would appear to various groups, particularly on the West Coast, and taught groups, not just one transmitter. For that reason, Elyon and Ron were familiar with each other and quasi-friends. What Elyon suggested to Ron yesterday was that since now he was Mighty Messenger he was sure that the problems the physical problems that Ron was having, could be ameliorated with his help. While that discussion was taking place, someone entered the room and insisted that Ron take the transmission. Ron knew immediately it was evil and said so, that it was not welcome. If there was anything to be said, say it to the Creator Son, not to him. That individual is one of the most evil individuals that existed in the Master Universe. Elyon addressed him and told him he wasn't welcome there. The individual involved is a high-ranking Spirit and decided to eliminate not only Ron but Elyon. But Elyon is a faster draw. He fired at the evil spirit and killed him. That immediately brought down the Paradise Trinity and Uversa. Elyon was escorted by the police to Paradise. There he was asked to explain himself as a Mighty Messenger and why he took the life of a high spirit without cause. The truth of the matter is that Elyon was placed in prison for a few minutes. Michael of Nebadon traveled to Paradise and asked the Ancients of Days to hold a court hearing immediately if they could afford to. They did. The facts were laid out on the table and the Ancients of Days excused Elyon without charge. However, what has happened is that Elyon was injured by a return fire of the spirit. Elyon has refused to return to Urantia with Ron's salute in any case. Ron now has no one standing in his corner, because we can't. For that reason, I Tarkas insist, with the accommodation by Welmek to my name on this issue alone, to allow me to speak as your emcee this morning or I guess it's this afternoon here in the States. And for that reason, I want to speak to something very severe. This entire issue is the boiling point over which the universe will fight to renew the normal pageantry of Spirit on Urantia. Don't mistake it, everything that Ron has attempted to do has been pushed back and allowed to fester into oblivion. Ron has made comment to Michael about it, and to others. They all say they understand, but cannot do anything about it. Today, Dominick came in for his usual set to with this Light Line here at 2709. And Ron asked him, why in the world can I not go on to YouTube and find the video? Well, it's complicated. But we have to reset the ability to find the video by just going into YouTube. It can't be done by the average person, the way it's set up at the moment. That's not entirely anyone's fault except you can thank the mechanizations of the insurrection to see the worst that can be done for the video. We also want to say to anyone who has seen the video, it's quite an education to listen to Ron explain it, it's quite valuable. It needs to be shown to the most people that it possibly can be shown to. I am Tarkas. And for that reason, Ron, you're most welcome. I now turn this over to a very angry Creator Son.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Tarkas. And, Michael, if you're there. You're most welcome. Please go ahead.

Michael of Nebadon  8:58
Thank you, Ron. You have been battling this now for 48 hours. Dominick is not aware of it because you don't tell him things that are unresolved that would worry him. He's here today. He took a load from you over the video but that is not entirely his fault. It's got to be seen by anyone interested in the subject. And Dominick said he will reset it. In any case, it's typical of what we are facing on Urantia not only on things that Ron wants to see done but almost everything I want to see done. Ron was told this morning by me in a post that you ought to read if you have the time over a response to the ongoing thing that Julio keeps putting up about anti-christ, but it gets kept turning into a discussion of the Ukraine war. Ron had to take down most of the posts and asked them, pleaded with them, don't get into this. It's not going to bring any peace. It's only going to divide. It's not spiritual. But this morning, it started all over again, in a sense, except Ron is appreciative of the history that both Andre and Prozonov presented. That was good posting, and Ron appreciates it. But admin warns, please don't get into the war itself. It can only divide. As a result, as Ron was writing the post in return, one of the most evil individuals I have ever met, entered the room and was ready to see to it that Ron would not give you a Light Line today. The crux of the matter is that Ron is wily enough to know that when they enter evil is afoot. Our trust with Ron is complete. Our trust with the evil ones not to commit murder in the name of their insistence on winning what Ron says is nothing is without rancor to you, Ron. But let us take care of it. You have to defend yourself. You feel the impingement and the raw power of evil and that you defend against it with vigor. The truth of the matter is, they are still around you and can't wait to get in to knock you off. The truth of the matter is, it is now impossible for the simple reason I have declared the following. Listen carefully, please. Number one, the Magisterial Foundation will go ahead. Number two WTP in spite of the intrusions will go ahead. Number three, we're going to make it possible for Ron to live, how we are not sure anymore since Elyon was so wounded. In your terms, his arm is in a sling and he stays well outside of the Urantia plane. He will not go back there until spirit is normal again on the planet. Number three, we are not going to listen to the Uversa complaint that the constellation of Norlatiadek is to have full access to Urantia. This morning, and listen carefully to this; the Vorondadek Sons on Edentia declared Ron hostile and attempted to remove him. I intervened at once and avoided a clash with the Ancients of Days by telling the Vorondadek Sons, you are suspended. Right now you have a rebellion out of Edentia. It will not be allowed to get into the planetary system of Satania at the very least until this is resolved. You should be shocked. I hope you are. This leads to a very very unpleasant situation Ron is dealing with when he talked to Dominick this morning. Ron has been warned that he will be removed immediately if there is any further intrusion by the constellation and the insurrectionists Vorondadeks. They are to be removed entirely and I leave it to the Ancients of Days to determine their fate. The seraphic insurrection is just about over. The Vorondadek Sons on Edentia have made Urantia a hell again. I am not friendly to anyone except my mortal supporters who have remained loyal, thank you. I'm Michael. The truth of the matter is to you Ron, you feel every punch. You are well advised to allow them to pass and hear this. The truth of the matter is that several of you have taken it upon yourselves to complain elsewhere. We know it. We know the names and we are determined if you keep it up you face your own problems. Don't play politics, shut up. Now this: the production of the video was only slightly marred by things that should not have been produced but were. I'm advising you Dominick and you Ron don't get chatty about anything because people will make fun of you at every turn they can. The blackamoor on the side of Ron's chair is now seen as a Catholic representation of WTP.

Ron Besser  
St. WTP Michael, please go ahead.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. Furthermore, Ron, stop it. I am not in the mood to listen to St. WTP. However, you have your point. You don't care.

Ron Besser  
Michael, no sir.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. That is reassuring. So let it be. Now this: the entire matter of WTP and Ron and the video is now a huge support focalization by 1000s up here on Salvington. Dominick and Ron and the blessings to all of you are now seen as the warriors. In The Crown, Ron quotes a writing that refers to the lighting of the beacons on the planets in the sky coming together to warn of insurrection and death and that the warriors must gather again and stand true to God. Tolkien, that's the author's name. And you know the work. And for that matter, Ron,

Ron Besser  
I couldn't name it if I was paid. I can't think of it right now.

Michael of Nebadon  
But you know what I mean. Ron saw it as a prophecy, including the poem that followed. It is. I didn't take it very seriously. But somehow Ron knows that the man Tolkien, who wrote the prophecy was dead on, read it. It's quite effective. I want to tell all of you why I am so angry not with Ron or Dominick or with you. But let me tell you something else that has me furious. Today, the Biden administration was informed that they may have an insurrection. Their response was, so what else is new? Biden has become difficult to deal with.

Ron Besser  
Ah, just a minute.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes, Ron, go ahead. You're just fine.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, we've got a disturbance in the force here. Just a minute.

Ocilliaya - Master Spirit 4  
Thank you, Ron. This is Master Spirit Four. You are extraordinary. You felt me come in and pull back.

Ron Besser  
Yes, it's a disturbance to me. I can't tell anything further Master Spirit Four.

Ocilliaya - Master Spirit 4  22:27
Call me Ocilliaya. Thank you. Michael is a furious Creator Son, over the response of the Biden administration. And now he's going to be even angrier when he learns that the Master Spirits are not divided, but are concerned that Nebadon is facing a huge insurrection over the pleasure that Michael feels is the place for Urantia to be as a  bestowal planet. I hope you can fathom the sincere and serious problem that everyone is facing, not only in Nebadon but the Dominion. The Dominion is saying to Michael, we have no issue. But we have an issue with the Ancients of Days that refuses to stop the suicidal attacks by the cabal, and the old Lucifer rebellion. The Dominion says, and Ron pointed it out at once that the mandate from the Ancients of Days at the conclusion of the Lucifer rebellion was that if any insurrection or rebellion broke out, it would be immediately suppressed.

Ron Besser  
Yes, this is Ron. I think I misstated something there. The mandate and this is Ron speaking it's not spirit, issued said that any rebellion would be snuffed out at once. It did not refer to an insurrection which they look at differently. It did not refer to any other device of rebellion. I must be fair and say the mandate only referred to, I believe, rebellion to the Ancients of Days. And to you Master Spirit Four please continue now.

Ocilliaya - Master Spirit 4  
Thank you, Ron. That is most fair. The truth of the matter is, the trial that we must face together is the Universal Father has decreed that the Uversa idea of justice when it came to insurrection must be reapplied to Urantia. In that case, that is quarantine. Once more, the circuits will be seized, and no communication allowed in or out. For that reason, the entire idea of the Magisterial Foundation and its subsidiaries cannot operate. We depend on the instructions and counsel to keep us doing what we should do as a mission. Without that, you wind up with humans doing it. Look what the foundation, the Urantia Foundation did to the Fifth Epochal Revelation, a cult. We dare not sully the Magisterial Sons, Jesus, or anyone else with a misapplication of corporate power. If you take down the circuits, you do not have anything left. Period.

Uversa - Ancients of Days  27:17
This is the Ancients of Days, Ron, thank you for being so fair. We do not agree with you entirely, that the mandate spoke it so clearly. But we accept that it did in truth. The truth of the matter is that the mandate got republished to you Ron with that statement in it. That is the affordability of a Creator Son to make it clear, in instructions to his fold, what was intended. It is intended, it will be maintained and we are so glad Master Spirit Four is warning even Nebadon along with its Dominion, that there is an everlasting threat to life everlasting if we pursue policies that allow rebellion to go unattended and refute the counsel of Paradise. Ron is of the opinion that Paradise will not change the will of evil and that it must be eliminated, not imprisoned.

Universal Father  
I fully agree with that. This is your Father Ron. And you're welcome. I'm the Universal Father. This is heating up just as I thought it might. And for that reason, I am pulling it back down by allowing myself to speak peace. You Ron pointed out correctly, that the mandate, as it was quoted to you didn't suggest but stated clearly that a rebellion would be wiped out immediately upon its appearance. I happen to agree with that fully with Michael. But that's not what the Uversa Ancients of Days said in the mandate. I quote it from what is in front of me: in the event of additional rebellion, there will be no successive issue to the Lucifer rebellion but will be dealt with according to its nature and to its source. You shake your head wisely spoken for them. Yes. Truly. And you see, no, they had that leave the option open to consider. Thank you.

Uversa - Ancients of Days  
Beautifully stated. This is the Uversa Ancients of Days. You are guarding on your frequency Ron, zigzag like lightning. It's the truth. You are a compossibility all by yourself. We on Uversa never saw a human act like you did or do for that matter. You salute Elyon as the bravest man besides Bzutu that ever lived.

Ron Besser  
With my issue at stake.

Uversa - Ancients of Days  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
To be honest, I'm sure there's other brave men too.

Uversa - Ancients of Days  
Yes. The truth of the matter is that Elyon is solidly for you again, he will not break his neck this time. We will not get involved. Because it is not wrong to defend democracy, to defend spirit, to defend good with lethal weapons, that destroy the full intent to commit murder, heresy, and disaster by allowing an individual like that, to run loose, we have gathered four of them. We have gathered four more deaths. It is despicable. It goes far beyond iniquity. We must invent a new word for the degree this has been taken. You don't make the Creator Son angry ever but he is. And you bowed to Michael and said you shouldn't say; good for you, Michael, because it's not a good idea. But you smiled and bowed to him as you did to Elyon and to Machiventa this morning. The truth of the matter is that lightning bolt that you put through the frequency was exactly what I wanted to see. You do not understand yourself, Ron. You don't understand the iniquity that you must suffer at times over the pretense of doing right and doing very wrong. It's all around you. But this time we are going to have a comeuppance and that patent Ron doesn't have to be issued. You've decided that. But you're gonna get it issued because you're gonna open eyes for a change with a population that has no understanding. Nothing. Zilch. About God, Spirit. The prattling of channels is to be eliminated. Maybe a vestal virgin during the time of the Greeks it could be used satisfactorily. But in the 21st century of the United States' power, it tails to uselessness. It's so inaccurate that the Zetas said to you Ron we dare not use channel anymore. We now see how they have so twisted, who we are and what we say we decline further contact. The Pleiades, another human group you admire has withdrawn the pack. But they say this to you, Ron; not true Ron we'll be back.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Uversa - Ancients of Days  
There are two other groups known to you, Ron, but we do not repeat here because they don't know them. You had hopes without knowing exactly what or why it was beneficial. It is beneficial, and we will make of it what we can when this rat-infested insurrection and rebellion is turned back.

Universal Father  36:21
I am the Father, your Father, you belong to Me. I dare not speak harshly when I say to you, the last remnant of good is not the Magisterial Mission or even Nebadon but in my heart, it is the human Jesus. Let me speak to the Second Return. The trial that is on you and you all know it because you suffer under the relentless advertising that goes on and still no Second Return. Jesus and I speak daily in deep solitude. He said to me this morning. We are now faced with an insurrection from the constellation Norlatiadek. That's no small matter. Where does it get rubbed out? Where does normalcy get restated? I, the Father said Jesus, those are big problems, even for you. It takes the existential life of Three Beings; Two are My coordinates, to understand the nature of the rebellions in every corner of the universe right now. And Ron, that is a desperate attack on you. And you're feeling it?

Ron Besser  
Yes, I, I, they're hitting my throat.

Universal Father  
Yes. For that reason, you have resupplied yourself.

Ron Besser  
I refuse to give into whatever you call that policy of death.

Universal Father  
I fully agree with you. Thank you for saying it that way.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon overriding Father, briefly, Ron. You're going to get through this Light Line if it kills you, and it might. The Second Return is my concern entirely. Jesus and Father talk about it, of course. But it is my decision. There is no revision to my Father on Paradise that you may know it. I stand steady. It will occur, it will be visible. I insist that the Magisterial Foundation, stand with us. Your support for it, ladies and gentlemen, has been superb. You have given cash, you have given support, and you've given heart to it. It will stand. And I'm going to use it fully and willingly with Rayson who also stands with it, Ron. This is Michael of Nebadon and I return this back to you, Father, thank you.

Universal Father  40:50
This is the Universal Father, my Creator Sons, 611121, 122, 125, 129, and 134. (all begin with 611) You are the Dominion. You have suffocated no one by becoming sure that Michael is right. This is unprecedented. The Deity Absolute is looking at compossibility work once again over you, Ron. Once again over you Michael of Nebadon. Once again over some of you, you are named in the legal documents by name over what has to be done to some of you. And that is only for the good. Don't worry it. I have proposed to the Deity Absolute, that this entire Matter of the Fifth Epochal Revelation was not a mistake. It was the Savior in place of Jesus. And now it has been refuted not by Ron, but by some of you as too contaminated to use. Don't do that. But understand that Ron gave you the chapters you don't teach and no one bothered to take them down. Good God. I want it somehow to be known to the entire Master Universe Father does not get frenzied He knows the end from the beginning. He holds your planet in the palm of his hand, He towers above Dominion. And I want it to be known this shall not stand either. The Dominion is fair, free, and a delight for me to administer. Ron loves it. He says it is the hope he thinks for mortals as ascenders to be universalized quickly. Amen, Ron. And for that reason, everybody, Ron is not to be snuffed out at least today. For reasons of state I admit that there is an endless chicanery over a mere human standing in place of what the Seraphim used to do on Urantia, but Ron says to the Seraphim who are disappointed; you couldn't do this Seraphim this is work for humans to do not you and because we dedicated on our own free will we are the mission too, and remember it, and honor it, and become it, for Urantia's improvement. It cannot be done otherwise if you ever allow humans to be mission. Amen. This is Father Ron. Thank you. The truth of the matter is you went into your subconscious not you went to Adjuster and that is his verbatim reply to us when we questioned it too. Employ the man who is also the mission and you have him for perfection. That is how important this is, that it work. Ron, what are you seeing?

Ron Besser  
I'm seeing embers as a forest fire in the dark. Oh Lord, run! (silence) One moment, please. That is what I thought.

Universal Father  
You are seeing the fire in the deep forest, burning the undergrowth.

Ron Besser  
Showering sparks up into the air. It was surprising, it just came in as that picture.

Universal Father  
That's prophecy, Ron. I'm glad you spoke of it so clearly. You in Europe, you in the United States, Indonesia, Malaysia, Southeast Asia, and even eastern Russia had serious forest fires this year. It burned huge tracts of forest. That is an analogy people that the insurrection and the horrors of it, they are the undergrowth and they are being eliminated by fire.

Deity Absolute  
I am the Deity Absolute Ron. I sent that picture.

Ron Besser  
I wondered who. I thank you greatly.  

Deity Absolute  
Thank you, Ron. The truth of the matter is, I considered it to be a little silly. But you caught on immediately.

Ron Besser  
I caught on to fire I didn't quite know at first.

Deity Absolute  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
But it makes sense.

Deity Absolute  48:00
Thank you. I'm going to ask, with the exception of our Father, to stand down on this for the moment. We are nearing the hour's end of this Light Line. And boy have you been immersed in the terror and the horror of this day for Ron. We are proposing that the entire issue of missions to Urantia be suspended. But we have a sovereign Creator Son called Michael of Nebadon who refuses to listen to that. He is sovereign. We bow to his will. We have no objection, Michael. Do as you must, as you must! I step back.

Ron Besser  
Thank you Deity Absolute very much.

Deity Absolute  
You're welcome, Ron.

Ocilliaya - Master Spirit 4
Master Spirit Four here. Ron.

Ron Besser  
Welcome, go ahead, please.

Ocilliaya - Master Spirit 4
Thank you, this: the trial that must be assimilated is to advertise the fact they are done for the day.

Ron Besser  
I have workers outside, people as we are talking; repairing some roofs and the property itself and they have a car with a bad muffler. And I wondered what the racket was going out my drive. Anyhow, I apologize.

Ocilliaya - Master Spirit 4
In any case, I am Master Spirit Four, Ocilliaya. You shy away from it Ron. Why?

Ron Besser  
Master Spirit Four, in due respect. I am hearing a change. It may be named, but identity that may not be named.

Ocilliaya - Master Spirit 4  
Fully, you are one of the craftiest I ever heard.

Ron Besser  
Well, unintentionally.

Ocilliaya - Master Spirit 4  50:44
Yes. The truth of the matter is Master Spirit Four is now the object of a terror list that is initiated by a group up here not on Paradise but on the executive worlds of the Infinite Spirit in Superuniverse Four. The Supreme Executive of the superuniverse name has decreed that Master Spirit Four has misstated that the rebellion is in error and that it must be opined; that is the opinion given by the Supreme Executive; he is in error. The same was done in Orvonton. The truth of the matter is Ron, the Father's supreme rules has undermined the order of the Master Universe to the point we are glad God the supreme saw the writing on the wall and destroyed himself. Your Fifth Epochal Revelation, Ron spends hundreds of pages on the supreme and it turns out to have been an inoculation to allow the supreme to declare himself controller. There is no controller except the Universal Father. There is a usurpation of authority and concern and it has divided the Master Universe through the individuals under the Infinite Spirit. Serious concern is now allocated with the Infinite Spirit who remains loyal and is part of the existential life of your leadership. He is not asked to speak but now the Supreme Executive of the Superuniverse Four is now allocating that the Master Spirit is in error. It cannot stand, Norlatiadek cannot stand, Uversa has every right to declare this sector of the Master Universe in error. We stand loyal to the Infinite Spirit and to the Paradise Trinity as do you, Ron. As do all under Michael. As do most of you. We now stand back Ron.

Ron Besser  
We thank you, Master Spirit. That's very brave.

Ocilliaya - Master Spirit 4  
Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Showing the laundry as bad as it is. I fully support that.

Ocilliaya - Master Spirit 4  
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
We stand with you Master Spirit. Thank you.

Ocilliaya - Master Spirit 4  
Thank you, Ron.

Michael of Nebadon  54:52
Now, this is Michael of Nebadon. You have no right to stand with anybody Ron except as a reader of the Urantia Book and that is very real to you and we accept that nothing is in the way between you, Master Spirit Four, or any of them and myself. We declare you fully available and ensure that we have nothing further to say, ladies and gentlemen. For today at least hear this: there is war in heaven. We stand back and wish you good day.

Ron Besser  
We thank the deities. We are grateful. Speaking for all of you and for myself, Ron thank you for being fair and open with us.

Tarkas  
This is Tarkas Ron, thank you for passing it to me.

Ron Besser  
With relief, Tarkas. Thank you so much for taking it. You're always up to it, aren't you?

Tarkas  
The truth of the matter is that we are going to close this Light Line quietly. I hope some of it has rubbed off onto you. Stand ready to work. But stand carefully. There is now a war and as Ron says, there is now rationing. You're not going to get everything you wanted because we don't have it. I am Tarkas, Ron. God bless you.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Tarkas. I'm to flip but thank you truly out of my heart and to all who have spoken to me today. Thank you for your distinct honesty and the horror of what you see, what I feel on myself; particularly the last 48 hours. I thank you deeply with deep respect to you all. And to my Father. I stand with You, Your will, as we all do. It is our prayer. This is done. Amen Father.

Machiventa Melchizedek  57:52
This is Machiventa Melchizedek you son of a gun. You speak the truth as I do. Someone has been fully honest and now has let you fully know the situation we are furiously trying to deal with. We have the power to do it. It will be brought back into normal channels. And Ron you have a good talk with Dominick soon. This is upsetting to you, to him, and I believe to every one of you. But you know the truth or at least most of it. There's even worse in certain places, but not Urantia. I am Machiventa Melchizedek the friend of Urantia as Ron just called me. Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Thank you Machiventa, we can't do without you. Thank you for the smidgen you give back.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you, Ron. We appreciate the insight and thank you to Ron, and to you as a group. You have stood with us through thick and thin. I hope you have the strength to do so again. We sign out.

Ron Besser  
We thank you Machiventa. God bless to all.

Ron's Thought Adjuster  
Now, this is your Thought Adjuster Ron. We must close this down because this is hard on you to hear all of this and to suppress emotions that you have to do all the time. It exhausts the mind. Yes, you can go blather to Dominick shortly. In any case, we close this with one admonition not to you, Ron, but to the rest of you. Are you gonna dismiss this now? Go back to your seat before the television or what else? The challenge is to your lives. Maybe even your ascension until this is resolved. I'm an Adjuster that has refused to be personalized now three times. Ron says I can't do, deal this without you Adjuster, please visit at least. I'm no longer visiting Ron I am here permanently. You will fuse in chariots of fire when the time comes. Elyon has been brave beyond words and so has your beloved Bzutu. The truth of the matter is you three are warriors of great use. You are warriors that extend beyond your own lives. You have taken it Ron twice; you have been shot, your blood contaminated, your mind indwelt by evil. You fight it out and say it must never be appearing there and so on entirely.

Universal Father  
I excuse you entirely for anything Ron. This is Father. You do not use anything or anyone evilly. Good for you. Yes. In any case, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to call this the Light Line of Light Lines that occurred one day before Halloween eve. It is that macabre. If you dress up, be as angels.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, and goodbye. I'm not going to unmute. We're just going to go out. Thank you for listening. Bye bye

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General Discussion / Re: TMARCHIVE.COM A Little History
« on: October 30, 2022, 06:59:52 pm »
PJammer,
Yes, I've used it. Thanks for your work on it. It is very helpful and much appreciated!
Raz

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  • 112321 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser
  • Subjects: the battle with cabal and insurrectionists is still being waged and will eventually be won, observers from around the Grand Universe are coming as close as they are allowed to observe Urantia, free will dominates life on Urantia and we can and should use it much more than we do, Ron and Dominick’s YouTube video and more of them need to be completed and put up on internet, mota and Ron’s use of it explained, Luciferian interference prevents Second Return, the spin of a muon is 8531 rpm, and the future will include children being aware of their indwelling Thought Adjusters and homo spiritus developing and Light & Life coming much faster to Urantia than was normal in the past; Speakers: Tarkas, Thought Adjuster of Pliktarious, Universal Father, Deity Absolute, The Future, Rayson, Unknown Spirit, Arthura, Michael of Nebadon, and Infinite Spirit; Q & A
  • Transcribed By: RAZ
  • Link To Tape: https://app.box.com/s/33qa4ftd1jiujka7ju682aoww5w5btw7

Ron Besser  
Hello, everybody. This is Light Line Sunday for October 23, 2022. I'm Ron Besser, your host. We have 20 today with us, and welcome everybody. 

Thought Adjuster of Pliktarious  
This is the Adjuster of Pliktarious, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
Well, welcome Adjuster. Thank you. Go ahead, please. 

Thought Adjuster of Pliktarious  
As the Adjuster of Pliktarious, I will make a comment to you, that makes this a little easier for you to hear. The truth of the matter is that today, you have a full audience of the people that usually follow you. But with us today, there are several more following. And I just wanted you to know. 

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you. I'm much appreciated. I hope that's true with others too. Thank you. 

Thought Adjuster of Pliktarious  
You're most welcome, Ron. 

Universal Father  1:13
This is Father Ron. I am slightly intervening before this Light Line starts to inject the idea that you Ron have had a terrible 48 hours with regard to the overweening presence of the cabal, the insurrectionists, and that you battle them constantly, even at night when you're trying to sleep. That cannot be entirely removed. But we keep working on it. And for some of you, you've got the same thing. But you're not quite aware of it as much as Ron is. I just wanted to intervene to let you know we are working on the problem. And that we will eventually win over it. 

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you, Father, very hopeful. I look forward to it. Thank you. 

Universal Father  
And thank you, Ron. Good day. 

Tarkas  
This is your emcee, Tarkas. We are going to play a little bit differently today,  again, Ron. We're going to ask for transmissions today. Rather than you holding forth for the full hour which has been true of the last at least three light lines. You would prefer the voice of others? 

Ron Besser  
Oh, yes. Just for the variety, it's very helpful. 

Tarkas  
Yes. And for that reason, unmute Lemuel 

Ron Besser  
All right. Hold on one moment while I unmute him. I hear you, Lemuel. What would you like Lemuel to do, please? 

Deity Absolute  
Lemuel, can you transmit me? I am the Deity Absolute.

Ron Besser  
All right, just a minute Lemuel, before you get started. There is something moving around in the woodpile I don't particularly care for. Was it, Tarkas that is here? 

Tarkas  
Yes. Ron. 

Ron Besser  
Can you tell whether we have the clear channel?

Tarkas  
You do not Ron. But we want Lemuel to speak. Lemuel, it's not the Deity Absolute. You've got a visitor, we don't know the name. So go ahead and transmit.

Lemuel  
All right. Well, it is true, I don't know the name but I can certainly feel the power. And yes, all right, please go ahead. 

unknown Spirit  4:15
Well. Good afternoon to all of you. I come at a very difficult time in the planet's history. And you all know your history going back as far as the rebellion under Lucifer. And you all know the aftermath of that throughout hundreds of 1000s of years. You know the results of the attempt of Adam and Eve to teach. You know the results of the mission of Jesus and how that ended. Everyone that has been sent here to try to elevate the human consciousness into a higher level of thinking to a great extent has failed. In more recent times, since the demise of the supreme and the aftermath of that which necessitated in Universal Father declaring a new universe age. This is a situation that has never appeared on any other planet and for that reason, more than any other at this very moment in time there are beings from the superuniverse 7, who are aware of the uniqueness of this tiny blue orb that they are here to observe and whenever and wherever it is possible they are prepared to offer their help. I am here simply to tell you; that all will be well. What has been planned so long and had to be postponed so many times is still as you say obviously ready to go. You may look at the present global situation and say to yourself, its never going to happen. Let me assure you if you allow yourselves to be assured, that it will happen it is going to happen. And it will be a success because it will change everything. Terrible changes to come, yes; but eventually, Urantia will bloom once more. And the beautiful pristine garden even more so, than the original Garden of Eden as it sails into Light and Life, and it will. And whether you are aware of it or not you are all a part of this. You all play a part in this and you will be remembered for this and you will be rewarded for this. Although you seek no reward, but nevertheless you are worthy, you will be rewarded.  Remain calm and collected. Remain peaceful amongst yourselves. Carry on with your duties but be prepared anytime at any moment of any day could be the beginning of what must indeed take place. I thank this one for receiving me and I thank you for listening. And I bid all good day.

Lemuel  
This is Lemuel. Well, I don't know who that was. (unclear - breaking up) It's very strong, it's wonderful. Thank you. Just give me a moment to see if anyone else wants to transmit. 

Weydevu  
Excuse me, may I interrupt for a minute?

Ron Besser  
Yes. You're wondering why he is doing this from the bathtub. 

Weydevu
Oh, yeah, he's breaking up? 

Ron Besser
Well, not only that Lemuel, there's lots of running water.

Weydevu  
Ok.

Lemuel  
No, not where I am, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Well, it's running water in my ears. And I'm not blaming you Lemuel, but you are breaking up a little bit. And also there's a sound of like there's a fountain nearby.

Lemuel  
I'm not in the bathroom, I can assure you.

Ron Besser  
the tub?

Lemuel  
No, no, no, not guilty.

Ron Besser  
All right. Go ahead and see if you've got somebody else, Lemuel. (silence)

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes, thank you, Lemuel. This is Michael of Nebadon. I'm only popping in for a brief moment. I heard what has been said. And I will not reveal the identity of this entity. But it is perfectly true what he said. And I only want to say that the 

Lemuel  
This is Lemuel, just a moment, please. Do I still have clear channel? Yes, I think I do. Alright, thank you. Please continue, Michael. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Lemuel. Yes, I only want to say that the recent insearch, no, Lemuel 

Lemuel  
I'm trying to think of the right word, yes, thank you. 

Michael of Nebadon  13:17
The recent increase in interest from well, extraterrestrials. That is to say, other beings and other entities from other systems that are taking a great interest in what is taking place at the moment also forms part of what you've just heard. It's almost as though there is, not a telescope, a looking glass, what does Sherlock Holmes look for when he has a spying glass or a magnifying glass? That's it. Thank you. It's almost as if there is a universal magnifying glass put over Urantia and people from all over the place are looking at this to see what is going on. And so they have decided to come as close as they can. And by that, I mean as close as they are allowed to come. Because honestly, if the door was open to all and sundry, well, there would just not be enough room here in our atmosphere of Urantia. But this should also tell you something. Everybody is waiting for the curtain to rise on this fantastic play that is about to take place. And so people are coming in their hordes in their 1000s and hundreds of 1000s. And they're all waiting as in fact, you are all waiting. And so we shall see. We shall see. Christmas is coming closer and closer. And maybe this Christmas will be like no other. We shall just have to wait and see and be patient. All right. This is Michael of Nebadon. And I bid you all a very good afternoon. Thank you. Thank you, Lemuel. 

Lemuel  
Thank you, Michael, thank you very much indeed for those few words. I'm not sensing anyone else at the moment, Ron.

Ron Besser  
All right. All right. Thank you very much, Lemuel. And I discovered where the water is. I've shut it off. 

Lemuel  
And it was not me. 

Ron Besser  
No, it wasn't you there was an open mic. Thank you, Lemuel, and thank you, Michael and unknown. 

unknown Spirit  16:25
This is the unknown Ron, I want to speak with you in particular. You, in particular, are looking at this and wondering where the lack of activity is originating. You're looking at it also as a possible effect of transition. It's all of the above. Plus the fact that you have an irregular mode of transmitting lately, in which you are subject to an awful lot of insurrectional material which you finally identify and remove. 

Ron Besser  
That's right. 

unknown Spirit  
Now this: you are quite sure that the entire matter of superuniverse instructions yesterday that you received privately, is most likely a story and not entirely accurate.

Ron Besser  
That is correct, unknown. 

Arthura  
The fact of the matter is I'm not unknown to you. I'm Arthura. 

Ron Besser  
All right Arthura. Thank you. 

Arthura  
For that matter, Ron, you didn't suspect it? 

Ron Besser  
No, I didn't. 

Arthura  
Why? 

Ron Besser  
I have no sense. No intuition, you might call it of knowing who it is. Or has anyone told me. 

Arthura  
Thank you. Regularly, they do? 

Ron Besser  
Usually, yes. 

Arthura  
And for what reason? 

Ron Besser  
So that we know probably the rightness of the subject with a person speaking and that it is most likely clear, clear channel. 

Arthura  
Thank You. It's excellent. For that particular reason, then, let us look at the situation for you. This morning, you woke up truly grumpy. And we understand why. But the truth of the matter is you decided you're tired of being an invalid and set out to use the normal structure in the physical body, ignoring the pain and the paralysis. What happened? 

Ron Besser  
I got a few steps in with a normal walk. 

Arthura  
That's beautifully spoken, Ron. And what does that mean to you? 

Ron Besser  
I can get a few steps with a normal walk. I don't know that it can be projected out.

Arthura  
But it can be Ron. For some reason or other, you decided it was time to just put aside the problem that was laid out for you and just walk around it. That's the only way out of it at this point. You're going to get better. But at this point, it has to be that you're tired of being an invalid. And for that reason, you snubbed it in ah its back or its face, whatever you want to call it, and actually got a few normal steps of walk in. 

Ron Besser  
Yes, I did. 

Arthura  19:32
How interesting. Now this: the entire matter and this is Arthura concerning the rest of you who are listening today and we have 23 on the direct call that you need to understand that free will really dominates life on Urantia. If you do not choose to do something, it won't be done for you. Ron learns it over and over all the time. For that reason, he learns to overcome better than most of you who don't understand how powerful self-will can be. For that reason, Ron, we're very proud of you. You said today, I am going to take it as if I were a normal man and can walk like a normal person. And you did. The strange thing is the pain has lessened in some of the areas of the leg. What say you? 

Ron Besser  
Well, I'm glad but I don't feel I control it. 

Arthura  
And why do you say it that way? 

Ron Besser  
If I could control it, I would remove it. But now it has done a variation. That is uncomfortable still. But yet there is a slight progress in being able to walk without the cane. 

Arthura  
Thank you. Isn't that beautiful? 

Ron Besser  
I don't know how beautiful it is but that's what we've been trying this morning. 

Infinite Spirit  
Thank you. Beautifully stated. I am not Arthura now. I am the Infinite Spirit. Ron, you are frequently the only person on Urantia who says; this is ridiculous, there's no need for all this to happen. I am just going to ignore it. It doesn't need to be. For that reason, you and Dominick did what last night? 

Ron Besser  
I suppose you don't mean eat? 

Infinite Spirit  
That's right. 

Ron Besser  
We videotaped a segment on the WTP subject. 

Infinite Spirit  
And where did you sit? 

Ron Besser  
Well, down, in a chair. I'm not quite sure what you're going for Infinite Spirit. 

Infinite Spirit  
Thank you, either am I. 

Ron Besser  
Just a minute. We'll get this straight folks, just a minute. 

Infinite Spirit  
This is the Infinite Spirit. I'm now myself. The truth of the matter is I was combing through your brain, I was looking at what you were looking at, I was seeing through your eyes. You have a tendency to droop the eye when you must concentrate very hard to keep the frequency. That's not abnormal for you. But it doesn't show in your transmissions. You insist that the frequency be precise, that you speak it precisely, and that there's no tomfoolery in between. And that requires concentration. 

Ron Besser  
A lot of it. Yes. 

Infinite Spirit 24:06 
The truth of the matter is you do it so well nobody notices it. I, the Infinite Spirit, however, notice everything. And I must say you and Dominick set up three cameras, did your lighting, and proceeded to do the interview. Dominick says, oh, okay. Ron says I think it went very well, Dominick. You're a great emcee. But Dominick doesn't seem to understand compliments. That reason is that he's never received enough of them to know the pleasure. Dominick, you did damn well. Ron, you did even better. I reviewed the interview. They are excellent questions, and they are excellent responses. I am asking the Magisterial Son Rayson, to make a comment if you will Rayson. 

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you Infinite Spirit. Thank you and Rayson, please, if you will go ahead. 

Rayson  25:26
Thank you, Ron. I love your protocols. It's this: everybody, Ron, and Dominick have been chewing back and forth over the past week. Just what to do about getting some spotlight on the fact that there is a patent for WTP brewing, and that it is woefully unreported by anyone. So they decided to do what Ron says to Dominick, please do a YouTube. Dominick seems to think it's for his website alone. No, Dominick, it's for YouTube. Please get that in your head. And do it so people can follow. Ron has mentioned it, but you're brushing it aside, don't. For that reason, Ron, make sure that when it's edited, that you remove a couple of bobbles that you laughed about, as you were trying to answer. One of the bobbles was the spin of the preparticle, of a muon. The spin of a preparticle of the muon is 8531 rpm. You couldn't remember it. You got it right the first time. But 30 minutes later, you couldn't remember the number. Things like that have to be edited out. Now this: this is Rayson on the deity level, Ron. Truly, I seldom go there with you, for the simple reason, it's high and mighty. But high and mighty is what I need to be with you and Dominick, and anybody else who attempts to do a transmission like you did. The truth of the matter is you sighed relief. You said well, Dominick, at least we've got the interview in. We can do it again if you want to now that we have the experience of what it's like to do it. But I'm suggesting, Dominick, that you take what you got yesterday, and you make your videotape last about 45 minutes. You've got plenty of throwaway in it, you know that and so does Ron. What I want to say is Ron said to you Dominick, do it so that on YouTube, you have followers, and subscriptions. It is critical that you do it. Don't fuss about your website until the YouTube website is done and up and flowing. Ron is adamant about it and so am I because that is where the major audience lies. It's of sufficient interest, you probably will provide entertainment for a large number of people who are deeply interested in free electricity. Furthermore, Ron, you worry about your appearance. Yes, Ron, you say you're falling apart in front of everybody. Not quite. Just continue as you have and you make a good appearance. You Dominick have a wonderful voice. You know how to interview and you did a spectacular job as Ron says. It couldn't have been done without you. In spite of the fact that Ron's the inventor. Now let me say this. This is the deity of the Magisterial Son Rayson. Ron, you want to do more videos. Do so. If Dominick doesn't want to do them or do the editing, which we feel he should do, then hire a professional to do this, to take some of the strain off Dominick. But Dominick will always be the interviewer. Please understand that Dominick. And finally this: the trial to see the video must be within the week, Dominick, there's too much to do coming that will detract from your time to edit and put it up. Ron wants to do more preparticle work. He wants to do more ultimaton work. He wants to do more muon work and how it broadcasts. We need a video for each one of them. You need to prepare the questions and I helped prepare the questions yesterday. Ron wrote them down and made them available on a sheet for you. But you did very well by coming up with four or five of your own., that were well, firecrackers. Excellent. And Ron thinks so. This is the deity level of Rayson speaking, you Ron are the last one on Urantia to have ever received an invention of this quality. We will do the hydrogen car. We will do nuclear waste remediation. After that, you're on your own. It's not going over well, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
I found myself lying down and pinching between my eyebrows. 

Rayson  
I fully understand. 

Ron Besser  
Listen, a hog, always a hog. We need more. 

Rayson  
No Ron, not more. You've got to take care of these before we give you more. And for that reason. You got your hands full for the next three to five years, just taking care of the hydrogen car and nuclear remediation. Now, why I say that? Ron, we didn't burn anybody out. The truth of the matter is that Alfred (Albert?) Einstein, whom you have had several good jocular talks with. He often visits to see how you're doing with the inventions. And frankly, you have ignored the inventions simply because it is so dead with anybody to speak to. You can't get any momentum. So you let it sit so you don't get into dutch with the attorney or with yourself or anybody else. I am now here to pledge that we are going to stir the pot good and proper. Dominick, the YouTube video is going to be part of what we're going to do. Please see to it as quickly as you can. Your ideas are excellent. Ron fully agrees with you. You are a great partnership. See to it, please. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Now this: I am Michael of Nebadon on my deity level Ron. 

Ron Besser  
Yes, somebody likes it, Michael. I think it's the Fire Company. 

Michael of Nebadon  
I think to Ron. Just a minute you idiot. Now this: I'm on the deity level. And that means there is no squandering of language. It's direct. You Ron took the bull by the horns this morning and said and I can't repeat you exactly. I'm not going to be a paraplegic. I am going to walk. And what did you do? You actually walked I would say a good 200 feet normally. Yes, it was uncomfortable. But you did it and said, well, I've got a normal gait. Thank God that wasn't taken from me. Thank you. And it's this. You do thank God all the time. 

Ron Besser  
I do. Thank you. 

Michael of Nebadon  
We're not going to ask the reasons for it. 

Ron Besser  
Well, other human beings that way we can have a fire company. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. Now this: I am not going to allow you to speak in public until I can predict you. I am now on my deity level again. No, I don't need help. Ron, stop it! The truth of the matter is that the flames around your head have been extremely high in the past few days. That is protection for your mind. 

Ron Besser  
It also gives a wonderful curl. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. For that reason, I want you to understand that the Adjuster couldn't respond to you this morning and said, where are you? I've got nothing but this insurrection around me making up names and pretending to be authority. They're not. That's hell on somebody that is as ignorant as you are. And that's true.

Ron Besser  
Yes, and I'm going to repeat it and he told me I'm ignorant, but I don't smell. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. Now this: the truth of the matter is, this is like trying to interview a cat. Now stop it. The last time we spoke, Ron was to say that I would be there and that we are going to end this tomfoolery and get rid of all the paralysis. That has happened to a certain extent this morning. When you said I am not going to be an invalid. And you just stepped out and walked regardless of the circumstances. Well, my goodness you did and it was a normal walk. It hurt but it walked. Now this: you always surprise me. You always surprise the Deity Absolute. And I can't speak for the Infinite Spirit. 

Infinite Spirit  
This is the Infinite Spirit, I'm surprised.

Ron Besser  
Kind of a trinity. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes, it is... 

Ron Besser  
Is anybody hungry? Coffee?

Michael of Nebadon  
I want you to understand Ron, that this is serious. Now this: if you could see you; you have a gray area from the waist down. And that is a result of the fact that it's almost entirely morontial. The rest of your body from the waist up is of the normal physical construction. You're you you see it that way yourself. 

Ron Besser  
I do, yes.

Michael of Nebadon  39:26
Why can't we get the upper trunk to be morontial? We don't know. But we speculate that there is a force in evolution that is superior to fiat, Deity fiat. That we have never run into before and what are you wondering about, Ron? 

Ron Besser  
Only this Michael, there have been reports of people, Saint Germain in particular, who affected the morontial and the physical at the same time for long periods of time in Urantia society. I don't know the truth of the stories around St. Germain. But I suspect that there are people who have reached a high spiritual status that were converting to the morontial and did so successfully. I don't know enough to discuss it any further. But why would I be one area that balked? 

Michael of Nebadon  
Beautifully stated. The answer is, you are an erudite, funny man. People enjoy listening to what you have to say because it's full of school talk, you know how to speak it. The truth of the matter is, if we place from the waist up to the top of your head, the morontial form, you lose the physical mind. And you get the cosmic mind entirely, including mota. If that happens, you become so insightful we lose the sense of a lecture that has humor in it. We don't want to lose that because it is so effective. Now this: the trial that Dominick must go through to put that video up is very small, Dominick. You've got to splice in some graphics. Ron was going to suggest that for the intro, you use the scherzo from symphony number seven, of Beethoven, it's light, it's beautiful, and it appears to be a business sound almost. But there is a problem with YouTube using, say an orchestra, like the Cleveland Orchestra, which is copywriting its records. So that's out of the case. But the point is Ron thought of it, and he knew the piece of music that would go with it perfectly. And it still does. You should hear it. In any case, when someone is that creative around you, Dominick, listen to it. It is, shall we say the gold framing around your very good work. I also want to say this to you, Ron. You walked this morning to say to yourself at least for a few steps, I'm not an invalid. That is presupposing the physical mechanism can support it. Well, you forced it to support it. I don't know how you did that. No one knows how that is affected. The gurus in India, back in the 1920s actually learned to levitate. Madame Blavatsky is well aware, she witnessed their levitation. The fact of the matter is they understood that if you have a strong enough will, you can even overcome Earth's gravity. Ron doesn't care about that. He doesn't care about levitating. He doesn't see the point. He would rather fly. And we would too, Ron, to be honest. But your will is very powerful, each of you. If you understood how powerful it was. You know that there is a Russian and he's still around still doing it. They can bend spoons by looking at them. That is willpower to the nth degree. But there's other things you can do with your own will, folks, if you can mobilize it, you can move things out of your way. You could open a door. But don't try to walk through a wall. You are molecularly impossible to do it. The midwayers can do it and be physical. That's not for you right now. But it is the point that the human will is as powerful as able to make levitation possible, and many other little tricks. Ron would love to know how to make a pen float. We will do that for him. Now I am using the deity level of Michael of Nebadon. Rayson was using the deity level of the Magisterial Son Rayson. We now are going to use the will of God the Father, to speak to one particular problem that all of you are having with that 10th of October. Most of you have reached the point, okay, we've been fooled again. You haven't been fooled. That was the plan. But on the 9th of October, the resurrectional Lucifer decided that it would never happen. He exercised the will of evil. It has its own will and broke the chains we had in place to bring Jesus into visibility. You ought to understand that Sonorington, the secret sphere around Paradise that is called Sonorington. Your home is around Paradise too on a secret planet called Ascendington. Michael's planet home is Sonorington. That's where incarnation secrets are kept. Ron spoke with one of the shall we say seamstresses who see to the appearance of the forms they take on? And they laughed about it. And Ron says, I suppose I'll never speak to you again but I am delighted to hear you say that you exist. The seamstress said to Ron, not only do I exist, but I've got a form for you, slip it on someday. You'll love it. And the truth of the matter is Ron feels beautifully ensconced with something like that. But we have to prepare, prepare the mind of Ron to be able to wear it. Dominick will have it too. Now this: when we incarnate as the Second Return is to be done. We have to put into place those steps from high to low that portray the incarnated form as it was designed to be seen and not what happens to it in the trip down to Urantia. Lucifer burned and destroyed the steps. We couldn't move. It's another embarrassment. But that is what happened. Furthermore, Ron is looking at the face of a young father. He sees it more or less in the form of his biological father when he was in his 20s The truth of the matter is Ron, he's still in his 20s but takes no notice. And that is a lack of will to achieve morontial status. That's all it is. Your mother, your biological mother, Jane has learned the fact that it is the will that dictates appearance, as well as the mobility. You have learned it on Urantia Ron so well you can use it down there, that's usually a morontial attribute. Now, Ron, you're being presented? 

Ron Besser  
Yeah, the basic form of the Raggedy Ann doll. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. 

Ron Besser  
The only thing I'm seeing is the form. I'm not seeing the detail of features. It assumes the posture that Raggedy Ann always does. And that is fairly large and floppy. 

Michael of Nebadon  51:09
Thank you. That form is what you have, Ron. Everybody that is listening has that form. We add the features by genes. Ron's form has 1000s of genes he now uses he never used before. You are all in the same spot. Most of you are using 1000s of genes that can do things for you, you don't use because you don't will it. The bodies are meant to be willed into position and for that matter, Ron can broadcast. And he did it when he went through the little store called BJ's to the checkout man who knew exactly the greeting that Ron psychically gave him. He responded psychically and Ron heard it. That is using genes that most people never even think about the use. Why am I lecturing this? Ron needs to be morontial to live longer. He took a step this morning to do that. Peeved that he was, that he just did it out of sheer difficulty, but it exercised the will in a way that makes things healthy. Yes, fresh air, walking, exercise, doing different things, sunshine, and sleep. All those things are endemic to good health. But when you activate a gene that destroys cancer, or sees to the remediation of Covid-19 in your own body, then you're exercising will to make it work. It's possible. Most of you never know how or why. With Ron, he gets pissed off, he gets angry; then he does it. Now this is Michael of Nebadon exercising the highest level of a Creator Son with very small children. I couldn't do this with 99% of the people alive on Urantia. I would like very much in a few minutes Lemuel to come back to you for a transmission, but not just now. I will be back to you in a minute or so. But I want to tell all of you that the YouTube idea Ron was sitting and talking with Dominick in the living room, when he looked at Dominick and said, you know, duh, how dumb I've been. Why haven't we used YouTube to advertise science? The way we're using it, it's so simple. You know how to do these things, Dominick, I am an inventor. I can explain some very unusual entertainment. So they decided to do it. Ladies and gentlemen, why aren't you doing something like this? In your area of expertise. I'm not necessarily saying do YouTube or anything like it. But in your area of talent, write a book, do something in art. Do a lecture. Go out and find people to sit around you to have a meeting once in a while on high spirit values. The world craves it. But the problem is, the churches want a monopoly. But they're failing. All these things you can do if you organize yourself and take the trouble and use some new genes. I am now stepping back. And I want you to unmute Lemuel, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Lemuel you are unmuted. 

Michael of Nebadon  
And Lemuel, this is Michael. You have a transmission of some import. Go ahead, please. (silence)

Lemuel  
For the moment Ron I'm not picking it up.

Ron Besser  
I looked myself, Lemuel. And when I go into my usual picture, I get a blank screen. 

Lemuel  
Yes. 

Ron Besser  
So let me niggle a few things. And let's see what happens when we get a little slaphappy here. Yes, I'm picking up a frequency. 

The Future  
This is not the Deity Absolute. This is the Future. I am not telling you how this is done, but the Future is speaking Lemuel, pick me up.

Lemuel  
Yes. Well, I can certainly feel the Future. That is to say, well in fact I can't say it, it's just, all right. Thank you. 

The Future  58:43
You're welcome. Yes, indeed, I understand your hesitation, Lemuel, because how can you explain anything in the future? Or how can you see the future? This is your thoughts and I understand those thoughts. So just let me speak. Well, you all say tomorrow never comes. And this is true of course in a sense. The future as you look into the future is obviously unknown. Some of you speculate for example, on what the future holds for you personally, in your own personal relationships, in your job. and all those things pertaining to your everyday life as a normal human being. And some of you speculate on the future, the immediate future because of the global situation with the war and the political problems that exist between nations. These pertain to your immediate future. Well, your immediate future and just beyond your immediate future will be taken care of, in a real sense, will be taken care of, through the Magisterial Missions and the return of Jesus. The future that I am proposing to mention to you is the future beings on this planet, that is to say, human (homo) spiritus and it almost goes without saying that human spirits or humana spiritus, or however you like to address yourselves as in the future. You will almost from birth be cognizant of your spiritual nature. And so, by the time a child is seven years of age in the future, that child will be in constant and in conscious contact with their Thought Adjuster. Well, you can imagine the effect, the tremendous advantage and effect that will have not on just the individual and his family, but on society as a whole. Now, one of the main reasons that I am mentioning this is it will be a tremendous shortcut and a tremendous saving of time. For Urantia to enter the first stages of Light and Life. What under normal circumstances would take 1000s upon 1000s of years, as other planets have already achieved that. But you all know that this planet is not a normal planet, by any stretch of the imagination. And so, it is necessary for extraordinary processes to be put into place. And just coincidentally, if I may use that word Homo sapiens, or come to the end of their use. So, like any vehicle, like any car, it has done its duty. It has been used for goodness knows how many 1000s of miles, but it's over and now we need a new car. We need a new body or we need a new type of human, a new type of human being that is human spiritus. And this is your future. Well, in fact, there are those already on the borders of human spiritus now. Yes, Lemuel is thinking naturally, is he going to be alive to see any of this happen? Well, I'm not going to answer that. That's not for me to say. That's up to his Thought Adjuster. But some of you most definitely will. In our earlier transmission, yes through Lemuel it was stated that you are already taking part in the future. Although you may not realize it, you are small in number, but your contribution is beyond your imagination. And this is another reason why so many beings from other systems are so interested in what is taking place down here on Urantia. How is it possible given the history of this planet? How is it possible to produce you lot, this little family; and certain others in the world. So in order to bring this Light Line to a close I want you to think about these words because you all want the planet to survive. You all know that this planet is so beautiful, like no other. Urantia the blue planet not only will it survive, but it will, as I've just told you, and it will enter into Light and Life and much, much sooner than what normally would take place with a normal evolution of a planet. So this is just part of the future that you may look forward to. On a personal level, you will those will be different, you will be in contact conscious contact with your beloved Thought Adjuster. And well you just cannot imagine really at the moment, the improvement that that will make personally, individually, and collectively. So this should encourage you, this should inspire you, and to make you feel truly hopeful and joyful for the future, that you will enjoy. Don't dwell too much on what is happening at the moment. But at the same time, obviously, you cannot like an ostrich bury your head under the sand. No, I'm not suggesting that for one moment. But everything in perspective. Live in the now, yes. Even the now to the maximum. But at the same time, also be aware that there is the most wonderful future awaiting the future humans on this planet of Urantia. And with those words, I step back now. And I thank you for picking me up. And I bid you all good day. Thank you. 

Lemuel  
And this is Lemuel. Thank you. Thank you very much indeed. For those wonderful words of encouragement. Thank you. All right, Ron, back to you, if I may. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you, Lemuel, and thank you Future. 

The Future  
This is the Future Ron, we also speak to you. You look at the entire affair as though it is passing you by. Yes, you're saying you're so slowed down it's easy to pass me by; not entirely anymore. You did something this morning nobody expected you to do. You exercised willpower to the point that you changed the construction of the physical part of yourself. I will never fully understand it as I am the Future. But I also know the past. As a result, Ron, you're going to be much better. And as a result, we can do the repairs more quickly than we had proposed before. You are still going to be addressed by Michael and you're still going to be addressed by the Adjuster. They have something in mind for you. And thank goodness you are alive, awake, and willing. For that reason, the future holds this. Stay the course you will be fine. Change your mind and you are not lost but work with difficulty. Look forward to the future and let the past reside in its despicable work with an insurrectionist Mother Spirit who caused it in the first place. I am the Future. We salute you, Ron, we welcome you to it. We welcome all of you to your future. I am here, I guide you. But you have to decide through what circumstances you improve yourself. As the Future, I salute you and say goodbye. 

Ron Besser  
Thank you Future. We are most grateful. We salute you. We look forward to the future or bust. 

The Future  
We thank you, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
Yes. 

Tarkas  
Now this is Tarkas, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
Well, welcome Tarkas again, thank you. 

Tarkas  
I am going to ask that we shut down the Light Line more gently than you did last time, where you just said there's no Q&A and we say goodbye. That's normal. That's acceptable. I want to open the Light Line to a Q&A session because so much has been covered and in ways that it is personally interesting to a lot of you. 

Ron Besser  
If you would, on your number pad, press five star. I can see your question asked. I will unmute you and speak to it. Five Star if you have a question or comment? (long silence) Yes, Stephen, go ahead. You're unmuted. 

Steven  
Yeah. Hi, Ron. You mentioned Beethoven's scherzo. The, but which symphony was it? I didn't want to wait till the recording. Sorry. 

Ron Besser  
The seventh.

Steven  
Oh it's the seventh. I can't wait to hear it again. Yeah, 

Ron Besser  
Yeah. 

Steven  
Okay. Yeah. Oh, it's, I'm so glad you're in the Romantic period. I like that. 

Ron Besser  
Alright. 

Steven  
That's all. 

Ron Besser  
Go to it. Thank you, Steven. 

Steven  
You're welcome. Bye-bye.

Ron Besser  
Go ahead, Robert. you're unmuted.

Robert  
Okay, Ron, thank you. And I thank you very much for this Light Line, 

Ron Besser  
Your welcome.

Robert  
Which is a lot of revelation. Thank you again. Okay, last few days. I was reading the definition of mota which defines that ability that allows additional intellectual insight into material spiritual relationships. But men cannot have mota while in the flesh. And then you came to my mind. Since there is always an exception in everything. I got one, I am wondering if you are that exception?

Ron Besser  
That's hard to answer because it's like looking at yourself and trying to see what's inside. I am told and I have to go to higher authority to make any sense out of it. I do utilize mota, but not like you do on the morontial worlds. I've got little pieces of it. Is there someone that would like to address it please for me? 

Michael of Nebadon
Yes, Ron. This is Michael. 

Ron Besser  
I'm back on my headset, now. 

Michael of Nebadon  
The truth of the matter is you do use mota. You have cosmic mind more than you have physical mind. But lately, your sense of mota has been directed more or less to personal relationships and we don't want you to use it that way. For that particular reason, it's been cut back slightly. But we see that you use it very well. You do not misuse it, and that's always our concern. To Robert, he uses mota to the point he can discern oftentimes what you're thinking. 

Robert  
Ok. 

Michael of Nebadon  
He can oftentimes figure out what your motivations are. I would say, in about 30% of cases he can figure it out. That's compared to almost zero for the average person. And that should indicate to you the degree of mota that he has, he has only a little of it. We're going to resupply it, Ron. Thank you. And for that reason, Robert, we can't say anything more about it. But Ron does use it. 

Robert  
Okay. 

Ron Besser  
Does that answer your question, Robert?

Robert  
Yes, yes, Ron. Thank you very much. And thank you, Michael.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, you're welcome. Just a minute. Rene, I'll be to you in a minute. Hello, Rene, you're Rene Duran, you are unmuted. Go ahead.

Rene  
Thank you, Ron. And it really surprises me the announcement that you do that on October 9. You know, the comment about, the second comment was by carried by the Luciferian. Through the will, from the hall people, you know, will. It really struck me very hard, because, at this time, I was like, 100%, I feel it in my heart, the Second Coming was really coming through. And I didn't understood when the analysis was done by Eternal Son that there was something that would really make damage if that physical appearance would happen. But now I understood that it was something else really did derail that those plans, and now it makes sense. I've been asking all these days after that failed appearance. Why? What happened? By now you gave us that, that clue.

Ron Besser 
Yes, there was an act of evil that destroyed the mechanism that they could do it. And, frankly, Christianity isn't going to understand technical reasons that spirit can or cannot do something. But we're all grown up enough now to understand that there are circumstances that interfere. And particularly in this period, when we have Lucifer, an insurrectionist determined to spoil everything. Well, they spoiled the 10th as you pointed out, Rene, but I was convinced that they were going to follow through with something and that we would see the log jam broken, and then something would appear to confirm. It is my opinion, Rene that we have it confirmed. But we don't have the visibility. And you're right, just to step back and wait for the troubles to be corrected. Thank you, Rene. 

Rene  
Thank you, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Rene. One moment, please. All right, I do not see any additional hands up and for that reason, we're going to close the Light Line for this Sunday. It's my intent to see you Tuesday on another Light Line, God willing, and lately it's been that bad. So until this Tuesday, thank you for attending. We have 23 people with us today. And I thank each and every one of you for taking the time to give a good listen and appreciate your support. So until next time, this is Ron Besser saying thank you and goodbye.

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  • 101622 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser
  • Subjects: Pleiadian desire to assist and train Urantians, information about Pleiadians and Honiadar, the need to focus on input, not output, and to talk to people where they have interest in our service to Spirit, and the coming commodity recession; speakers: Pleiades, Tarkas, Michael of Nebadon, Jesus, Machiventa Melchizedek, Estephanie, Deity Absolute, unknown Spirit, and Ancients of Days; Q & A
  • Transcribed By: RAZ
  • Link To Tape: https://app.box.com/s/70e9wfj207p6mv8kvsbwqgafq402vjbz

Ron Besser  
Welcome, everyone. This is the Sunday Light Line, October 16, 2022. I'm Ron Besser, your host. I welcome all of you. We have 23 in the direct phone call, including the Internet audio, which we have about six members joining us. And we thank you all. I hope we can give you some good information today.

Tarkas
This is Tarkas Ron, I am your emcee.

Ron Besser  
And we welcome you we are incomplete without you, emcee Tarkas. Welcome. Go ahead, please.

Tarkas  :50
Thank you, Ron. I do enjoy. The truth of the matter is, there is no controversy now, but it's been raging around your head all morning. Even when Dominick was here, there was a discussion about the Pleiades and the transmission you took this morning from that very distant local universe sitting far far away, beyond the constellation Orion. They are well known on Urantia because you have about 17 channelers that take the messages from that group of super-advanced human beings. They are so advanced, they are born invisible. They are not midwayers, but they are humans that have reached the epitome of social civilization and spiritual understanding. We are about to allow the transmission of the Pleiades in a few moments. The truth of the matter is Ron the pronunciation is Ple i a des.

Ron Besser  
Well, that's simple.

Tarkas  
Yes, Pleiades, hear that, ladies and gentlemen, that gets rid of some of that awkward ei sound.

Pleiades  2:29
Now this: this is Pleiades Ron, we are now fully forecasting that your trial with the Light Lines and with our channelers is about to meet not only havoc but with an extreme care that you be very careful how you transmit us. We are also facing what you're facing, an insurrection that is trying to destroy our connection to Urantia. We know you're called Urantia. No one else does that we transmit to or I say channel to because we do not transmit. Ron, you are the first one we have learned to transmit to. It is easy, it is accurate, and it contains no subconscious foible. Once they learn to do a transmission, you will have dozens of transmitters to work with.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Pleiades  
You do that through the morontial. Thank you. Now I know you are something quite different. Listen to this: last night when you transmitted me for the first time I was sent to review you in the flesh. You sat in your big easy chair and easily transmitted anything I ever wanted to say out loud and clearly. This morning we received a transcript. It is almost blank because your statements are outrageously mostly funny. We do not allow official transcripts to show humor. For that reason, we need to reestablish an official record. We're doing it now. Thank you. Now this: I am the Prime Minister, so to speak, of the transmitting possibilities of the Pleiades response to communication with Urantia. We are making your group our first guinea pig to see what we can do as educators as an advanced human race, which you are to become yourselves, probably without what we have achieved, your species is profoundly slow to learn anything. Now this: the truth of the matter is the Pleiades is slow to learn too, but we are almost 1 billion years old, as a species. You're not even quite a million, not even a 10th (1/1000) of what we are as a species. That proves to us that the entire matter of time is essential for any of you to learn what, I don't know how to put this; Ron has learned. He is less than 1 million years old, as a fellow brother, sister, and whatnot of your civilization. The truth of the matter is he considers himself a universe citizen as you should. You are almost all agondonters, you are the largest group of agondonters on the planet. Yet you fall to bickering and falling out with process. You are almost children when it comes to not getting your way. Now, let me speak to something else. I am let's say the Prime Minister, the viceroy, the diplomatic representative of this group of beings that exists on a home planet like you have, only we are so old that we have developed the ability not only to birth channel, but also to be born invisible. Ron met a group of invisible beings, oh 10 years ago, called the Honiadar. That is correct, Ron. He met the Honiadar and had quite a series of lectures from them. He has retained the name but not the lectures. And for that reason, has very little more to say. They may be on TM archives.org but he doesn't know where they went. For that reason, we are ready to speak to you through the Honiadar. The reason the Honiadar are so important, Ron is that they were moved from their home planet when a double star erupted to heat their planet. It toasted them. They had to be removed. Now this: we are like the Honiadar but younger. There is still a step or two we must develop. And for that reason, Ron, we're going to use you and these agondonters If we have permission to. We now are stepping back and allowing the rest of the transmission to take place as usual.

Ron Besser  
We thank you, Pleiades for your attendance, your interest, and your care. We look forward to developments and we thank you profoundly, (from) the agondonters of Urantia.

Pleiades  
Thank you, Ron, we are so pleased. Good day.

Tarkas  
This is Tarkas Ron, beautiful. Now to everyone who is listening the channel that takes place on Urantia has to be taken down. That is the traditional way of receiving broadcasts from disincarnate beings from high to low and back. What we have shown every one of you is that the Pleiades are speaking the truth, but your channelers are producing subconscious statements of desire rather than fact. I have never seen it so more clearly stated than what Ron quoted to you from the Gaia site, as to who these people are, it's full of errors and tremendous over-expansion of who they are. The Gaia site calls them spirit beings. They're not, they're human. The Gaia site reports their lives are 700 years. No, they're like the midsoniters at most 500, usually 300. That's what you develop when you develop being more advanced as a species. Furthermore, Ron is quite sure they know the difficulties that you experience on Urantia. The problem with sleep. The problem with over-emotional responses. The problem with social disorganization to the point you have insurrections even in a wonderful country like the United States. The Regency is meant to correct what is wrong with the social organization in your governments, and in your routine lives. For that reason, Ron is saying why am I reproducing a transmission in phrases rather than conversationally? The answer is Ron, we had to pull the reflectivity that you use in order to accommodate the Pleiades. For that reason, we now restore it.

Ron Besser  
Hold on a moment folks. All right, something went clink. I think I'm back into normal mode.

Michael of Nebadon  14:24
Yes, this is Michael of Nebadon. The Pleiades are aware that they have to use a standard transmission quality rather than the reflectivity you use Ron. And for that reason, we've had to make a transition switch back to the normal transmission style. For those of you learning transmission it's a shame you can't be with Ron for one session, he can get it flowing easily. And that has to do with the fact that his Adjuster can work with your Adjuster to put into place those mechanisms that make it easier to do. And finally this: the first 20 minutes or so of this transmission has been with the Pleiades. Ron still has trouble with it, he has no memory cells to use. The truth of the matter is that the entire mechanism that Ron uses is not out of date, it is so far ahead that we get the systems mixed up. He will do fine. We will make our changes. Now here's Machiventa Melchizedek.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Greetings, everyone.

Ron Besser  
We greet you Machiventa. Welcome. And please continue. Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you. I enjoy your protocol, Ron very much. The truth of the matter is I feel so at home in this particular mind, I can joke with him, and it works beautifully. The fun is a relaxation. Few of you ever get enough to really enjoy your transmissions. Ron can do it and laughs with us. The trust that we provide Ron is full. And he to us is full. The trial that you are now seeing Ron is,

Ron Besser  
This sounds domestic.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Yes. the tree you need cut down has to be cut down by you.

Ron Besser  
Oh, I see.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Don't worry about it right now.

Ron Besser  
All right.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
The truth of the matter is that tree was in the wrong place for size.

Ron Besser  
I thought it would stay small. It isn't. It's a Sequoia, and it's getting into the electric wire.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you.

Ron Besser  
So it has to go.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you. Now this: I allow that kind of discharge Ron, only to let them know you've got your own problems too. The truth of the matter is it needs chainsaws, it doesn't need the other type of saw. And for that matter, you are waiting for things to settle out with him.

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Very well done. Now this: there is no particular reason, Ron, for a Light Line today in that there is oh, not a lot of news from the last Light Line you had on Tuesday. Tuesday was a giant Light Line. We will have more of them when Michael of Nebadon is ready to tell you how to start the missions. We told you some of it on Tuesday. You have heard some of it with Lemuel on Wednesday, and so on. There is no consistent broadcast yet, other than the Sunday Light Line, which is today to establish precisely what we want in factual terms. For that reason, Ron, we are adjusting the epiglottis.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, I'm having trouble getting air at times.

Machiventa Melchizedek  19:19
Yes. The truth of the matter is that the entire mechanism of the voice box, the esophagus, the breathing mechanism in the chest, the diaphragm, and the other devices in the human to speak is too slow for transmitting. You have made adjustments yourself Ron. Those who transmit don't seem to get it done completely. But you do and make it easy to transmit. For that reason, we make minor adjustments as we go. Now I have one important thing to tell you. The truth of the matter is that the discussion forum is now falling back into silence. You aren't holding your end-up transmitters. You're going from daily to every third day. Elise, you're doing fine. The rest of you are slacking off. You say well there's no one there. There is. But you have to ask, ask, ask for a transmission. Ron does all the time. That's how he gets into very important contacts. Now this: the Pleiades are the result of Dominick working with a man for other purposes who channels the Pleiades. We are hoping that Dominick sends him the transcript Ron took this morning because it's important. Furthermore, as Ron told you, Dominick, he sent you the HTML document that wasn't edited. The document is edited on the discussion forum, just copy it. And fully this Ron, your spelling is atrocious because you have the insurrection constantly on your back, throwing you out and off.

Ron Besser  
Yes, Machiventa and I've even gotten rid of two and three paragraphs of transmissions that they spoiled.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you. For that reason, Ron. There is a moratorium, not on your transmissions but on their ability to do anything, particularly around you. That one is now advised. And finally this to all of you: this is not a particularly long Light Line for the simple reason there is not a particularly good amount of information to share with you right now. I step back. Here is the Deity Absolute.

Ron Besser  
Thank you Machiventa. We appreciate it.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you, Ron.

Deity Absolute  
This is the Deity Absolute.

Ron Besser  
We welcome you Deity Absolute. You can use your sleigh now.

Deity Absolute  
Thank you.

Ron Besser  
The snow is new fallen in many ways, sir. Just the innuendo is appreciated. Is that you Deity Absolute?

Deity Absolute  
No. That one's dead. Now, I want to say something about the UFO contact you made Ron. On Friday evening you decide I am bored to death, certainly, I can do something better than sit here and stare at nothing. So you chose to go online and search for UFO corporations, those who report it, and follow it. You chose the very first one that the search engine found. And it's called?

Ron Besser  
I think cura. (Cufos)

Deity Absolute  
And that is correct.

Ron Besser  
I don't know what the letters stand for. Maybe it's cufo, I don't know.

Cabal  
No its. The truth of the matter is that the remaining email that you sent was not truncated when it first got there. But someone decided that it was too specific and deleted large portions.

Ron Besser  
Sounds like the Bible.

Deity Absolute  
Yes. Ain't it the truth? This is the Deity Absolute now, that one is removed.

Ron Besser  
Sorry, folks, it's cabal. Let's put it back, right.

Deity Absolute 25:18
This is the Deity Absolute Ron, thank you. That email is complete and is making the rounds of the membership, which is about 5000. Ron has stirred a huge controversy simply by placing it in a scientific report with headers, a factual statement, and no editorial. The truth of the matter is, that's the way you report to anybody that has used science to implement an invention. Ron now has about 3000 people demanding that he be interviewed. That is an extraordinary amount of interest over a segment of the population that can be reached with Epochal Revelation Ron. They're already doing it with Pleiades and the Rockwell Fund. The truth of the matter is, you're going to get a heck of a lot of information. We'll take advantage of it as we can get interest. Thank you. Now this: to all of you, you wonder what to do. Ron always figures out what to do when he hits, let's say a spot that isn't scheduled. He's done it with the UFO people. He's done it with mechanical and electrical engineers. He's done it with the Master Force Organizers, and so forth. You are as capable as he is. But you are not thinking about input. You're thinking about output, what you can do. Well, put in, and you have your output.

Ron Besser  
It's like falling over a log, Deity Absolute now that I hear it.

Deity Absolute  
Yes.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael, please continue.

Deity Absolute  
The result is that most of you who are sick and tired of sitting back and wondering what to do have to use your creative imaginations where to make input and for God's sake don't lambaste them with 'the full monty'. Hit them with their interest. With the UFO organizations, it's UFOs. With electrical engineers, it's how to transmit electricity and on and on and on. We're not telling you to do it. But look at what is educatable in the outside world that you live in, and see what you can come up with to rouse their interests. I am the Deity Absolute. I stand back.

Ron Besser  
And we thank you Deity Absolute. We are most grateful.

Deity Absolute  
Thank you, Ron.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon, now, Ron, you always make me laugh with you. That is the truth. And you never saw it that clearly.

Ron Besser  
No, no, I didn't. But he's right.

Michael of Nebadon  29:44
Thank you. The truth of the matter is Ron, that you're constantly thinking about ways to make things work. They don't work, but you constantly think of them and implement them. The time is coming shortly when anything you do will work. And that is thanks to a Regency we intend to insert almost immediately. The trial that is going on in the Biden administration is it is overwhelming to deal with all that's going wrong in the world at the same time. The truth of the matter is that the EU is as bad as in its financial policies as the United States is. One is hiking everything and another is taxing everything. And that's not what you do in a slow down like is developing now, thanks to a commodity recession. That's what you're going to get, a commodity recession. That is silly compared to a monetary recession caused by too much money, or too little money. This time, it isn't easily fixed. You can't print commodities. For that reason, we instruct you all learn to walk more, gasoline will be precious. The United States is a producer, a plus producer of oil, but they want too much money to produce it. Let them figure out some money is better than none. We'll see how that goes in the USA and Canada. Fully ensured is the fact that the trial for the Magisterial Mission is to gather people in enough quantity to listen and do. Ron has been bitching and I mean bitching for weeks now about the solid cardboard heads that are supposed to be brains of people in government and what they are doing and creating chaos. The new Prime Minister of Great Britain is not inept at politics. But she is not an expert in taxation. Yet she tried to implement a certain policy that goes counter to the requirements of the Bank of England to cover debt. For that reason, she got her fanny in trouble. We don't know how this is going to turn out. Second of all, the Biden administration is not corrupted but is fully misunderstanding the emissary from our Regency, asking for an interview with the President based on the fact he knows something critical to the governance. The truth of the matter is the Biden administration says you're a dime a dozen everybody thinks they do. But Biden is he's not psychic but he's got a sense of politics and he said bring him on, we'll meet him. For that reason, ladies and gentlemen the Regency will have a voice. We leave it at that. And finally, the truth of the matter is we have nothing much further to report to any of you than what we have just told you and which you just experienced as Pleiadian.

Ron Besser  
Forgive me, folks.

Michael of Nebadon  
You'll get it, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I better, yes. Pleiades.

Michael of Nebadon  
The truth of the matter is, the Pleiades have one more comment, Ron.

Pleiades  
Ron, you're hysterical. We don't have much humor up here. But you're fun to listen to. You're honest, you care that it's accurate. And that you need one last report. Find Lemuel on your list, unmute him and let him have a transmission.

Ron Besser  
You're unmuted, Lemuel.

Lemuel  
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I believe you have a transmission. Help yourself. Go ahead.

Lemuel  
Well, well, I'm going to speak I'm not sure if I have a transmission or not. But I'm just going to let the words flow as they come into me. And well, this is very strange in the sense. This is Lemuel talking. The, it's different. What I'm finding.

Ron Besser
This is Ron, may I speak?

Lemuel
Yes, please.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, let me help you out. I am getting the fact you don't know the name.

Lemuel  
No, I don't know the name.

Ron Besser  
Just go with it. If there is no name that appears, I'm getting something called domwell. But that may not necessarily be in your transmission. Go ahead, connect.

Lemuel  
Alright, well. Yes. Well, whoever you are welcome. Welcome, whoever you are, um, please go ahead. And I will try to, I will try to pick you up.

unknown Spirit 37:21
Yes, all right. Thank you. Thank you, Lemuel. I know you but you don't know me. It's not important at the moment. Well, what I want to say is that we are extremely interested in the possibility of establishing a network of us to be able to work, with you, you humans. This would be a first. There's nothing else like this on Urantia at the moment, no, not at all. It may not work. But in fact, we are confident that it will work. And the emphasis that you have just been listening to from Michael of Nebadon, I believe it was or Machiventa Melchizedek that the transmitters instead of sitting on their butts, and wondering what to do or when something is going to happen, simply ask. Ask and you will receive as your master Jesus said, and continue to ask. We for our part are listening, we have our antenna fully extended. So if we pick you up that is to say if we are able to pick you up in this sense, this is someone asking for a transmission, we will hone into you or tune in to and you will be able to receive a transmission. This is so important for the future because as you are all aware when the missions are up and running, and when Jesus is all ready, that is to say when Jesus is well into his total social reform. I will repeat that total social reform. There is going to be a tremendous amount of information that you will need to give to other people. And in fact, now I can also tell you that this will coincide to a certain extent, with physical changes on the planet. But I'm not going into that too deeply because, in fact, it is not necessary. And it's so it's an ongoing change in situation all the time. It is something that is being monitored from moment to moment with the advisors, your planetary organizers, Lemuel can't remember the name at the moment, but it doesn't matter. Power directors! Yes, that's it. Thank you. That's being monitored all the time. But coming back to what I am interested in is that your transmitters including this one Lemuel will be able to transmit us, one of us on a regular basis if he and the others take the bull by the horns as you as one of your favorite sayings because we are waiting for that, this is something that we want to set up. And we are looking forward to it. And as I say we are confident that it will produce it will be successful and this is what we are hoping for. All right. Well, thank you Lemuel with those few words, I will step back, but I look forward to coming and transmitting again very, very soon. Thank you.

Lemuel  
Well, thank you whoever you were, that was very interesting. This is Lemuel now, and wow. Okay. If I take the hint. Thank you very much. Okay, let me see if there is someone else here. Yes, Machiventa Melchizedek. You're welcome. Please go ahead.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Yes, thank you, Lemuel. Well obviously, I have heard what has just been said. And that only enhances or embraces not embraces no Lemuel that's not the word. It enhances and gives more emphasis to what I have mentioned previously, that you who transmit really, get off your butts and ask because there is a tremendous amount of work to be done. And so I go, I'm happy about that. So I step back also now. Thank you.

Lemuel  
Thank you. Machiventa Melchizedek, thank you so much. All right.

Jesus  42:45
This is Jesus, Lemuel. Do not doubt, this is Jesus. And I, like like Tarkas and others of you I do not have a great deal of information to impart to you this evening. And the words you've heard so many times before, but nevertheless, I think it is necessary to keep encouraging you all this with a few regular words. I and, those who are with me, we are ready to go. And yes, I will repeat it will it can be tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. We simply do not know. It all depends on Father. His will be done. And his will is what we want to see done. As you all know. And you all want to do the same thing yourselves, of course, you do. I did mention the last time I think I spoke through Lemuel, was the fact that yes, it's what it's barely two months to Christmas. Apart from what we want that is to say my return and that what I want to do and the missions of course, and the Rayson Corporation and WTP, all that sort of thing. There is now an extra element developing that will, what do you say? It's not come to the foreground yet. But it is coming. And this is something extra apart, as I mentioned, apart from the Magisterial Missions, apart from my Mission, apart from the Rayson Corporation and all the rest of it, this is something else, something extra over and above what I just mentioned. And this would be interesting to see if it does do better, so we should wait and see. I can't tell you any more about it at the moment. But it would be it will be very interesting. All right. So this is Jesus. Please keep on keeping on and your prayers are always welcomed. Please continue with your prayers. And I keep the faith and above all remain in my peace. My peace I give to all of you. Good day, and thank you.

Lemuel  
Well, thank you Jesus for your few words. Thank you so much as always, greatly appreciated. Thank you. I'm not sensing anyone else at the moment, Ron. So I hand this back to you if I may.

Ron Besser  
Do you know the name Persephone?

Lemuel  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
I believe she is around you.

Lemuel  
Well, I know the word Persephone from another situation, but alright.

Ron Besser  
She's ready to connect Lemuel.

Lemuel  
All right. Well, good evening. Is it Estephanie or Stephanie?

Estephanie
Well, it's not really important, Lemuel. You can just call me Estephanie for the moment.

Lemuel  
All right.

Estephanie  
Yes. In fact, I have been on one or two lifelines previously some time ago. And you probably don't remember but it was in connection with the new, (what is the word) the new, (was it the new Mercy mission?) No, it was something else. And also to do with what.

Lemuel  
I'm losing it Excuse me. Have I got clear channel or is this cabal? I think it's cabal. Just give me a moment, please.

Ron Besser  
Lemuel, it's Ron. You now have clear channel.

Lemuel  
Well, I.

Ron Besser  
Estephanie is a compliment. You are well connected.

Lemuel  
Estephanie is a compliment.

Estephanie  
This is Estephanie, you need to put it back on the frequency you were working with. Lemuel. Pick up where you left off. Don't try to search it.

Lemuel  
Okay, thank you. Well, I think I think it is to do, this is Lemuel this is not Estephanie. I'm sorry, Ron. I'm not picking it up.

Ron Besser  
All right, that's perfectly all right. You've done very well, Lemuel, and thank you. And we thank the speakers that you brought through.

Estephanie  
This is Estephanie.

Ron Besser  
I'll take it.

Estephanie  
And what I want to tell you is that Ron heard Persephone first. I am the complimentary angel Estephanie and for that reason, Ron, you are absolutely correct in letting it lie. He does not transmit this frequency very well, for whatever reason.

Ron Besser  
So, Lemuel, it's almost genetic.

Estephanie  
The truth of the matter is that you Ron can pick up any frequency. And that's what you're doing now. I am singing on a frequency that almost no other human could pick up. And that is the reason he's having trouble, partially. I am not transmitting from the local universe. (it is not clear at which part of this paragraph the Cabal cut in on Estephanie)

Cabal
I'm transmitting from behind Paradise. Yes, that's an area never spoken to. That reasonable description is not to be repeated, but only to give you a sense of location. I am Estephanie. And Persephone is a supernaphim of unusual character in that Persephone is often the character name of the Infinite Spirit. Estephanie is the Infinite Spirit when we must make material statements. Our statement is this: trust not those who would feed you information that is being transferred not as Persephone or as Estephanie but as the miracle worker, Jesus of Nazareth.

Ron Besser  
One moment people. We have a comeuppance here. Michael, I defer to you and your wisdom in this.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. I am gathering it is as you call it Ron, not. I am quite sure it's a new ploy and as such, it is called down and we leave it for the Ancients of Days to determine the nature of this disgusting behavior.

Ancients of Days  
This is the Ancients of Days, Ron, you've called it correctly. We now transfer you back to Michael of Nebadon.

Ron Besser  
We thank you Ancients of Days. We are most grateful.

Ancients of Days  
Thank you, Ron.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael, again, Ron. You showed me something I never knew a human could do. You caught it and nipped it in the bud. That which you asked Lemuel to do was impossible for Lemuel, to appreciate for the simple reason they would not transmit to him but only to you to trap you. You won't be trapped. Let us look at the situation. It's not overly critical now that we've caught the dragon in the woodpile. The fact of the matter is that you Lemuel are finished

Ron Besser  
and I'm muting you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Lemuel. The truth of the matter is that we are finished too. I have time just for a couple of Q&A.

Ron Besser  
Press five star on your number dial and that will alert us that you wish to speak either with the question or something to say; five star. I'll wait. (long silence) Seeing nothing means we have no question. And wait a minute.

Lemuel  
Lemuel.

Ron Besser  
Yes. Yeah, go ahead, Lemuel.

Lemuel  
It's just a quick one, Ron. When you mentioned that this problem that I have is genetic, then obviously that means there's something that has nothing that can be done to improve my transmitting abilities, is that correct?

Ron Besser  
It is a frequency receptor. I don't think you have it.

Lemuel  
Ah, all right.

Ron Besser  
I can't tell without walking in there and, of course, I can't do that. But that's what we're trying to get across. You literally can't receive that frequency.

Lemuel  
All right. Okay, thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Sure.

Lemuel  
Thank you, bye-bye.

Ron Besser  
Yes, Elise, just a minute, I'll unmute you. You're unmuted, Elise.

Elise  
Yeah, thank you, Ron. I was just wondering Ron, that this weird transmission that we just had through Lemuel Lemuel and through you Ron if that has something to do with the Persephone name we received in one of your transmissions on a Light Line in June of this year. And this person was an administrative worker for Gaia in the new universe age. Do you remember that?

Ron Besser  
Yes. I don't, Elise I'll be honest with you. I don't know what remains consistent with the functions of these names, mainly because they are being changed almost daily as to what they're being asked to do. I don't assign them anything unless they tell me at this point, with the names that suddenly appear and we don't hear a lot about. I don't think Persephone right now is available. And I don't think that we want to get back into the compliment, which is genuinely the right name but the frequency was hijacked. That's all I can tell you, Elise. But what did you have to question?

Elise  
Well, that's what I was questioning myself is that could have been the same person. But you know.

Ron Besser  
It is.

Elise  
Yeah, so I don't want to get into that struggle again and neither do you. So really, that's all. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
You're welcome. Thank you, Elise. Lemuel, I'm coming to you. I've unmuted you, Lemuel.

Lemuel  
Yes, I'm here.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, the question mark appeared again.

Lemuel  
Oh, I did not. I have not. I have not marked 4 star, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Ok, well you're safe. I'll put the blanket back on. Thank you. And Valerie, you're unmuted please go ahead.

Valerie  
Thank you. I just would like to know more about the plans of the Pleiades. I know that they had schools on Earth. I used to listen to that years ago. And so that's what they would like to reestablish and retrain their, ah, their channels to transmit.

Ron Besser  
I understand your question Valerie, and that is entirely up to them and their local universe and the Missions here in Nebadon for Urantia. I have no way of knowing capabilities or choices.

Valerie  
Yeah.

Ron Besser  
That's what they said they would like maybe to do, let's see what happens.

Valerie  
Okay, but may I ask you another question about them? You may not have the answer, but the thought I had is now that they are invisible, they are able to travel differently and come to our planet. How about their abilities to traverse this distance, they are a far distance from us. Are they able to come here as human beings, because they are so different from us?

Ron Besser  
I can tell you what I'm told. And that is advanced human beings can do something called projection. We do it here on Urantia. As a matter of fact, The Urantia Book was associated with such, an individual. His name was Harry. And Harry could do the amazing thing of appearing in a distant city, interview what he had to interview, and return back to his body in California. The Pleiades are capable of doing the same thing. I don't speak to it quite often, because there's no need to nor do I understand the process. But it is possible with advanced status and they are quite capable of arriving in your living room and having a chat with you. Of course, you can't see them.

Valerie  
Okay, but astral projection, this I know about. Many people claim that they had this. I just didn't know how to do it for the humans here on earth.

Ron Besser  
Well, it's called projection.

Valerie  
Astral projection.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, because they don't need ships. They have ships, but they don't travel here.

Valerie  
Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much.

Ron Besser  
Sure. Thank you.

Valerie  
Thank you.

Ron Besser  
You're muted. Anybody else? Oh, yeah. All right. You're open weydevu. Okay, I hear you.

Weydevu  
The planet of Albara, or Albara, that's the planet that the Pleiades were speaking from.

Ron Besser  
That's what they call it. Yes.

Weydevu  
Okay. And, they said that there's like 600 light years from this from the star cluster of the Pleiades. Now, I think our nearest star, is what four light years away? Our nearest, yeah, Centauri?

Ron Besser  
I don't know, I don't retain it.

Weydevu  
Oh okay. Well aren't there, aren't there many other planets within the Pleiadian cluster?

Ron Besser  
If you go online and ask Google, what are the Pleiades, they'll tell you precisely the stars and their rank. I couldn't tell there's five or seven of them, Six, oh right, six of them.

Weydevu  
Okay. All right. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
You're welcome. Anybody else? All right, looks like we have pretty well finished our term in office here. Hold on.

end

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  • 100222 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser; co-host: Phyllis Simpson
  • Subjects: new Jesusonian Foundation; WTP; compossibility TUB 118:5.1 (research previous decisions in light of current); Regency;  coming newsprint articles significant for posterity; Protectorate Zone; Council of Equilibrium; Malvantra replacing Manatuba as Chairman of the Magisterial Foundation Board; speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Tarkas, Jesus, Deity Absolute, Rayson, Malvantra, Vorondadek Son, Manituba & Lemuel’s Thought Adjuster; Q & A
  • Transcribed By: RAZ
  • Link To Tape: https://app.box.com/s/cyoaktp61natwzoqvr193vkjj0wn4s4p

Ron Besser  
Welcome, everybody. This is USA Light Line for today, the Second of October 2022. I'm Ron Besser, your host, and Phyllis Simpson, your co-host. We have, let me check the top of the form here, 20 listeners on the direct call. We are not working as usual the streaming, we will eventually take it down, folks. 

Tarkas  
This is Tarkas, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
Well, welcome Tarkas. I wasn't sure who we might have today, welcome. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Welcome to you too Ron, this is Michael of Nebadon. Tarkas is standing beside me. We are near you in your own room looking at the computer screen and seeing the names, the telephone numbers, and the various other information that is on the desktop list. You are unable to reproduce that for everybody? 

Ron Besser  
I wish I could. I would if I could. Unfortunately, it takes a login and the problem with it is that anybody can come in and harvest your telephone numbers. So they don't allow it for that reason, I'm quite sure. But I wish you all saw it because you can see the names appear as you come online to work the Light Line today and every day. 

Michael of Nebadon  1:56
This is Michael of Nebadon. And I want to assure you, everybody, that the entire reason for today's Light Line was not clear to Ron, to begin with and it is not clear to Tarkas but I Michael of Nebadon have something rather extraordinary to tell you. Ron had problems this morning posting. The so-called cabal, the insurrectionists mostly seraphic, kept getting in his hair adding the letter A to everything he wrote or not spacing. They can override your nervous system when you're typing and they were doing that to Ron so he just quit after making the post. However, just about 30 minutes ago, his friend Dominick arrived with a new license plate. He has now registered his car in Pennsylvania. And guess what? The first three letters are mbf, Magisterial Besser Foundation, and the last four digits are 2230, they are not really hard to remember. In any case, it reminds me, Michael of Nebadon how lucky Dominick can be all the time. He's now got something he can remember. Ron can barely remember his tags and he's had them for over 15 years. For that particular reason Ron when you get a new car and you will. Get a tag that you have m something f two. That way you establish you belong to the Magisterial Foundation as well. Now this: we are now going to go to the Salvington headquarters of the Jesusonian Foundation that we wish you to revive Ron, in one of your 501 C three corporations. You have at least two that can be renamed. 

Ron Besser  
That is correct. 

Michael of Nebadon  
We want one renamed the Magisterial Foundation, which you already have. And the other one, the Jesusonian Foundation and we'll give you the full title later. Now this: the trial that is awaiting for your signature is ready to be signed. That's the trust that you are turning over your entire estate and property to the Magisterial Foundation, it's worth will greatly improve the standing of the Magisterial Foundation. and for that matter, relieve you of local taxes. We still are trying to figure out why the IRS looks at this askew but will relent once it understands why it's being done. You need to perpetuate the property for an office, at least to begin with, and also a place for one of the executives to live in and care for. That way everything that you have is redeemable during the lives of those who will live after you. That's a trust. And now this: finally Ron, the entire matter of the WTP patent is fully figured out by Rheem. Your attorney says we now know that the patent was suggested as a rip-off of a certain kind of parallel patent that was exercised oh, 20 years ago and never used. Now we understand that that patent is no longer effective. And that the patent office has finally concluded you are not the individual who did that. Nor do you ever understand why that patent was registered in the first place in that that old patent never could transmit electricity anyhow. It probably would electrocute the builder. And now this: we are now looking at the Jesusonian Institute. I want you Ron to initiate and I will tell you the details later. The truth of the matter is you can have the attorney do it. But he is so slow lately. You are tired of using what you hope is the results. 

Ron Besser  
May I speak, Michael? 

Michael of Nebadon  
Why of course. 

Ron Besser  
What we can do, Michael is to have them change the name. It's a simple form, I think. Meanwhile, we will call it the new title. 

Michael of Nebadon  8:01
Thank you and the bank will probably demur given what we are giving the bank. Thank you, Ron. Now this: for your information, Ron, the entire matter of the Magisterial Foundation; and all the people listening should understand that the entire idea that you promoted as the Magisterial Foundation is to be used. We spent last Sunday talking about what the initial institution of the Regency is going to do. And the Regency is going to use the Magisterial Foundation as a means to transport not only personnel but also money. That it can do very well. It will transport to the Rayson Corporation, which will form Rayson Electric. It can also transport to the Jesus Foundation International, the Michael Foundation International, and the new Jesusonian Corporation, you have not named yet. It will be our funding agent. The money will not come directly to the other corporations but will funnel through the Magisterial Foundation, which can donate tax-free to other corporations. And finally, this: the entire matter of your physical health Ron has been under discussion now for 48 hours. You are barely able to walk, you are barely able to stand, and even laying down is very painful. That cannot be tolerated by the heart, nor the physical apparatus you called body. This morning and you laughed about it, we injected a serum used for animals on Urantia. And you felt a small relief. That is probably the route to go. Don't laugh people. But the blood that Ron has now produces red blood cells that are obligate, that is oval. Unfortunately, the cells need blood plates that are round his blood does not feed the cells in the legs. Hence, they are extremely painful. We found that the ostrich has a round red blood platelets. We injected a bit of it into his lower leg. And he felt it immediately as relief. What do you think we're going to do? Don't laugh. But you might get quite a runner out of Ron with ostrich red blood cells. And finally this: we stand on ceremony on one objective Ron, do not cross ___ any of these corporations with a sale to anyone but yourself. There is a consortium in the EU that already knows how you operate. They're going to offer you a fortune to buy one of those corporations and become a subsidiary. 

Ron Besser  
I rather like that.

Michael of Nebadon  
I do too Ron. All right. Look at what the package might be. I do not know which one they're interested in. 

Ron Besser  
Could be Rayson. 

Michael of Nebadon  
I fully agree and we daren't ever fool with that. Thank you. 

Rayson  
This is Rayson, Ron. That's the way to get to WTP ownership. 

Ron Besser  
At least the income. 

Rayson  
That's right. And that's what they're after. You have made no error. They make no error. But they'll offer 10s of millions. It's not petty cash, but it is not worth what Rayson Corporation is. For that reason, Ron, you daren't sell it. 

Ron Besser  
No. Well, for lots of future reasons, too. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. Now this: look at what you have and discuss it with the board that you now have and see what they think about the deal. It makes the Magisterial Foundation wealthy. And for that reason, Ron, you can do a lot of things you haven't been able to do. Starting with IT section, and other sections that you need to take into account. 

Ron Besser  
Oh, I do understand. That's wonderful, but I'm a little nervous. But we'll see if this materializes. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. That's all we ask. Now this: the entire matter of free electricity merely being broadcast from a tower in York, Pennsylvania, because we're insisting it be built there is going to make certain individuals furious. Not in the State Department or the Energy Department, but in the patent office. They now know what you're talking about ultimatons and they see there is a better way to produce electrons that are modified. That individual is not Rayson but the Deity Absolute. Ladies and gentlemen, it may be that this patent isn't quite what gets built. We'll have to wait and see what our friend on the circle of infinity might have to say. 

Deity Absolute  15:31
This is the Deity Absolute Ron, I do appreciate your language. I am the Deity Absolute, I am infinite. I am the counsel to the Universal Father to make sure that all of our Paradise policies do not conflict with past decisions. That is called, when you search for it, compossibility. Your Urantia Book uses the word once. No one is quite sure what it means. But it's simply research back to make sure previous decisions do not conflict with new decisions. If you do compossbility, you conform the present with the past decisionwise. 

(transcriber note: it is unclear to me if the Deity Absolute continues or if Michael of Nebadon steps back in and continues. I choose the latter.) 

Michael of Nebadon  
Now this: I am truly sure that Ron will survive the next day or so. But there is good reason to believe that the cabal, the insurrectionists along with what is left of one or two of the Lucifer rebellion are out the kill him. They tried it this morning. It was hit and hit hard. They are dead. But the truth of the matter is, there is no shield we can place around any individual who is in the material to protect them about the vicious turns that renegades spirit wishes to place on any humans they do not like, and believe me they don't like Ron. For that reason, we have contingency plans. The Magisterial Foundation is now going to be moved from York, probably to one of its outside municipalities. That's to avoid riots, burning of buildings, because that is what we expect. York had the military in it in 1968 and again in 1969 to quell racial riots, they attempted to burn down a block of buildings and the governor called in the reserves. There's an armory right in York itself that was mobilized and tanks sat on the bridges over the Codorus Creek, which runs straight through York. About five bridges. Every one had a tank on it. What is happening is that the racial substitutes that live in Baltimore and New York city find it a wonderful battleground to just riot and steal. There will be no such thing but the Magisterial Foundation will not be represented in the central roundabout that is the square of York. Instead, we will look at 2709, Ron's home address as the permanent Foundation location until it is safe to locate it In continental square. We now turn to a subject dear to all of your hearts, that is the Regency. We explained to you before what a Regency is. That's where grownups in the royal family work with a youngster who is now become king by succession. But he or she is far too young, to exercise free will choice of government policy. They stand until the king or queen is 21. That is the mature age most people say you can handle decisions. Yes, in the United States they are pushing it back to 18. But 18 is not quite there yet, 21 is. The Regency is spirit incarnations, Paradise Sons, nothing less, that work with a government, in this case, the United States government to see to it, that the king, President Biden if you will, has full counsel all the most wise decisions your government can do. We will extend this to Great Britain and to the EU. But we are deciding that the EU is now beginning to break into nationalistic behavior again and that France in particular may opt out. For that reason, Germany becomes the hegemony of what is left of the Union. Germany will be provided WTP and all of the power of a Regency if it is ready to cooperate and do away with the extreme right wings that really are Nazi, it's embedded. It's embedded in Hungary, in portions of Austria, and in a couple of other EU nations, you don't usually talk about. They are extreme nationalists to boot. But they have also a racial bias that cannot be tolerated. The Regency will stamp it out. Now the Regency is scheduled to appear no later than October 10. That's only eight days from now. We intend to be timely. And everybody, don't be too surprised if it is a few days early. The next two weeks are historical. Ron is desperately trying to get the money to begin the chronology. He's not going to make it, quite. But people save your newspapers please, your magazines please, and see to it that when you're done with them to send them to Ron who will use them as first source information about the introduction of the life of Jesus, once more on Urantia. Do not toss your newspapers away with the headlines, the editorials and god knows what else they will be saying. Become the eyes and ears of reports to send Ron so we can put it into the Chronicles and produce a volume on the life of Jesus as he lives it. It's vitally important. Remember it, please. Go out of your way, if you can, to gather materials he needs. It doesn't matter what language. I remind you all the volumes that will appear are historical. Yes, the revelatory commission in Nebadon will produce an Epochal Revelation on the life and times of Jesus in the Second Return. But they cannot reproduce the human reaction among the nations it first appears. We desperately need reaction not only from the United States, but Canada, Mexico, Central America, and other nations including the EU. We need to get an institution on the job, but it's costly. The resources Ron that you need are already there, you can't see them. The truth of the matter is you've got to see them and get to the institutions to avoid a rush on them to see what you want regarding the Second Return. You have already upset the order in the college by being silent. The head of that department is worrying, you have died. Now this: we suggest you do not make one issue of any bulletin to any institution, for the next week, Ron. You had no intention to. But at times you get the impetus up your nose to take matters on directly. This time, wait it out until you're instructed. 

Ron Besser  
Thank you. 

Michael of Nebadon  27:25
We are now completing the idea of additional Regency information. We're going to use you Ron as our transmitter. For the simple reason, everybody if you had trouble transmitting, again, just know that the insurrectionists destroyed the main cable. It's been replaced. And we're using it to provide this Light Line. The Regency is forever going to be remembered for centuries to come, particularly in the United States. For that reason, we intend to build a monument. It may be in York. They deserve it. But it depends on how well York survives the use of riots and other devices used by racial politics. York is known for a hotspot. So is Shrewsbury, 30 miles to the south, on the Maryland line. Ron's ancestors opened the general store there. And then when things got a little thin picking, they moved to York for a better environment. For that reason Ron is familiar with Shrewsbury and Shrewsbury was the center for the Ku Klux Klan in the early days after World War One. Now the racial politics remember Shrewsbury and York as a hot center for debating racial purity and it's always under attack. We've got to remove the Magisterial Foundation from such temptation. And finally this: the Regency will be centered not on York, Ron, but on Washington D.C., of course. You are fully aware why. So are we. But the Deity Absolute is quite sure that the Magisterial Foundation must be used administratively to help transfer not only money but information that the Regency needs to operate politically. We are asking you, Ron to run not for governor, but for mayor of York not. Yeah, and perhaps as a senator from Pennsylvania. It's ideal and you operate well within the Regency. Now, this: our decisions with the Regency are now really new compared to last Sunday. One of the things we have modified from last Sunday is that the term for belonging to the Regency in the Magisterial Foundation is not the ability to transmit, but the ability to be able to think and do. Ron has chosen the planning commission primarily based on that and not transmitting possibilities. The fact of the matter is of the six, only one cannot transmit and even that is being worked on, religiously, by our friend Gitz. Now this: truly speaking, the Regency has to be modified one bit more, Ron. You are not to become part of it. You never thought you were. We thought you should belong to it by becoming an elected official. But the elected officials from Pennsylvania are no longer considered valid officials, we'll explain that later. What must be done is that a protectorate zone around York County and perhaps, 

Ron Besser  
It's not Arundel, I don't know quite what the county is in Maryland that we abutt. Pennsylvania abuts the state of Maryland, in York County, and for that reason, I keep hearing Arundel but I'm not sure of that at all. I don't know where Arundel is. 

(transcriber note: it was later ascertained that Baltimore County is the name of the county in question.)

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. It happens to be the case. All right, um, Baltimore County. Thank you. We may put it around Baltimore County too. For that reason, Baltimore can be blocked using the interstate as that block. We need for you to contact officials in Baltimore County, and speak to them by telephone to invite them to York to have a really good talk around your dining room table just what they might do to help the Second Return be successful.

Ron Besser  
Yeah. All right.

Michael of Nebadon  
Now this: Ron has intimated what degree does the protectorate zone need a commission to oversee the municipality. And to what degree does the Regency wish to represent them or each? Beautiful question Ron. It's not settled. Thank you. For reasons of state, Ron knows the municipalities. He's worked with them for 20 years. He knows what it is to attend meetings, to offer advice, and watch how the voting and even the minutes are produced. 

Cabal  
He is so valuable, we are not going to allow him to reproduce without being sure that the entire region is aware of his special status. 

Ron Besser  
And ladies and gentlemen, that last two sentences is cabal. Strike it. Let me reestablish the clear channel. Thank you, Father. 

Michael of Nebadon  35:30
We now clear the channel for you Ron once more. Ron has no intention of speaking to special status or anything for any of you. You will be salaried those who join the Magisterial Foundation or its executive committee or other organs. You will be salaried. You will pay taxes. The Foundation will not pay taxes. The Foundation will distribute income from the sale of commodities the Foundation is in control of. It also will benefit from the profitability of free electricity through Rayson Electricity. For those of you who have donated to this point, some of you far beyond what we expected, and we thank you. The Magisterial Foundation right now needs cash. The legal fees are well over $5,000. And that's on top of the cost of a world patent and the cost of other legal fees coming in. We are determining that the entire cost of placing the Magisterial Foundation at the service of Salvington, of Jesus, and of administrators we have not introduced to you yet, Ron; is almost $300,000. Ron has already supplied $180,000. He can't keep doing it. Now, for reasons of state, the entire matter must be reviewed by the Council of Equilibrium. Remember what we told you about it. The Council of Equilibrium is Paradise. It is a council set up to review the serious problems of all local universes in all superuniverses. To date it has reviewed close to 10 million big problems, 400 of them are from Nebadon. You still have a serious problem, not with Dominion, but with Vorondadek, Lanonandek, and a sonship order you do not have named yet; that refuse to cooperate with Dominion and fail to see why they are not in charge of missions to a material planet like Urantia. The reason is, it's a bestowal planet. Hands off. The other thing is it is experimental. Hands off. But they cannot think it through for some reason or other and for some reason or other the cabal that is near Ron here is trying desperately to break in. But the Father has seen to it, they're bumbling idiots right now. This is hardball folks. Ron looks at them and says if you keep it up, it's war. I will not rest until you're dead. That's severe talk to Spirit. But they deserve it. They're stupid. They don't understand the repercussions that they're undercutting their own spirit activities by refusing cooperation with the Creator. There is a Vorondadek Son insisting on being heard. We insist you speak to Michael. 

Ron Besser  
We wait a moment, a little silence. 

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael, request denied. 

Vorondadek Son  
This is Vorondadek Son coming through a back channel. 

Ron Besser  
It is denied to you, Vorondadek Son.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon. Of course. You're special, not anymore. Let me finish the Regency talk and the problems of locating in downtown York right now. We are going to use 2709 as the administrative center and await for the use of another building located somewhat out of the reach of downtown York because there's nothing but trouble brewing once the return of Christ is running. Number two, the lack or reason for being of the regency is to correct government booboos. Biden is full of them lately. So is Putin. They are dire enemies. But neither one can associate the need for the protection of the people from their already ironed out plans to produce something otherwise in their administrations. For that reason, Biden is off on a toot and Putin has got a war. We now locate the administration of the Magisterial Foundation not at 2709 but on Salvington It is there Ron that you are really working from. You do not know how. You do not know the way. But your decisions funnel through that particular complex and are distributed back to the minds of all of you who support this foundation to get things done. We now close this discussion on Regency. Now you will have more but for reasons of state we now dispose not of this Light Line but a Q&A session, if you wish to have it. Five star is what you punch in. We will see the marker on the desktop and open to your voice. Begin now. Five star any Q&A you wish to have. This is Michael of Nebadon. And we thank you. I withdraw. 

Ron Besser  
Go ahead, Phyllis.

Phyllis:  
Yes, we have a question from Jose. I'm unmuting you now Jose. Oh, are you there Jose? Hello.

Ron Besser  
Yes, I hear you, Jose. Go ahead.

Phyllis:  
He disappeared from my screen when I unmuted him. 

Ron Besser  
Yeah, hold on. I show him unmuted on mine. Jose, can you hear that? 

Jose
Yes.

Phyllis
All right, you're open again.

Jose  
All right, thank you. I just have a question regarding the regencies. I heard that they're going to be various regencies in different countries. And I was wondering what about the other countries, the smaller countries? Will they be involved in some way with their own regencies or they will be annexed to the major regencies?

Ron Besser  
Well, Jose, I know you're thinking about Puerto Rico. Am I not wrong?

Jose  
You are right. 

Ron Besser  
Yeah. 

Jose  
Yeah. Yeah. Other countries, like, for example, maybe any country in South America, Brazil, for example, Colombia, Venezuela, Mexico. Any other European country?

Ron Besser  
Yes. The Regency has already spoken to Great Britain and Germany. I don't know any other sure country we have named. But those are major countries. When it comes to the smaller countries. I doubt that we can get to them early on. But certainly, the whole world is to be protected by better government through the Regency. I'm not saying the Puerto Rico is off scale. But I am saying it probably will wait maybe two years. That's just a guess. And I'm turning this over to anyone that wishes to speak to the Regency, upstairs. 

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon, Ron, upstairs reporting. Ron has got it absolutely right. The trial that we have is that Urantia has over 167 countries. For that reason, we do not have the personnel individually, to produce a Regency in any or all of the countries that fall below the idea of the major countries right now. The EU is not considered a country. Although it should have a Regency since other countries are beholden to it. That is one way of doing perhaps 15 or 20 other countries. But Germany specifically and Great Britain specifically will receive it. Mexico is not on the list. Honduras is. I will only say this: that Honduras has a particularly nasty situation developing in which the wholesale sale of drugs is driving that government out of office. And the corruption is severe. We need to break it up. Jose, that's the best we can do. I hope that helps. 

Jose  
Yes, sir, it does. Thank you very much.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Michael, very much. Was there anything else Jose? This is Ron.

Jose  
No, sir. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Thank you. Go ahead, Phyllis, please.

Phyllis:  
I'm muting you now, Jose. And we have a question from weydevu and then Lemuel. Weydevu I'm unmuting you, go ahead.

Weydevu  
Thank you, Phyllis. Thank you, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
You're welcome.

Weydevu  
This morning, I read the two posts from Sue and Sophia Veronica. And Sue's post was possible planetary default. And Veronica's post was uncertain times. Now, these posts were at most to say they were kind of like gloom and doom and yet we didn't, there was no one discussing it as of your post, I mean this Light Line.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, but I did. I posted to it.

Weydevu  
Oh, well see, I didn't see that one. 

Ron Besser  
And the gist of the post I put up was Jesus agreed. There is conflicting reports. Neither Elise or Sue are wrong. That is what was dictated. But Jesus made it clear to me regardless of the conflicting views of our superiors, Jesus has no intention of standing down and that he will meet the drop dead date with a Regency. Does that help? 

Weydevu  
That helps a whole lot. Thank you. 

Ron Besser  
Yeah, you're welcome. Was there anything else?

Weydevu  
Well, in terms of the possibility of Russia using nuclear strike on someone, a tactical nuclear strike, is that foreseeable or is that a rumor of war?

Ron Besser  
If you would read my post to Sue, it addresses that. 

Weydevu  
Okay. All right. 

Ron Besser  
Well, let me repeat what Jesus said, and I'll let Jesus speak to it. I'm now transmitting Jesus. 

Jesus  
Thank you, Ron. Weydevu, you need to keep either a computer in your home or stay at the library and live there. There's too much coming on for you to miss, as you are deeply interested in developments that achieve my Second Return. Ron is also, between the two of you, you are well informed by reading that post Ron put up under that original Sue post. I say with regards to the nuclear usages, that we have no intention of Putin ever being able to get to that point with decision-making. We're going to leave it go at that. Use your imagination what that means. Thank you. I'm Jesus. 

Ron Besser  
We thank you, Jesus, very much. Weydevu does that make sense to you?

Weydevu  
Thank you. Yes, it does.

Ron Besser  
A lot, right. Yes. All right. Was there anything else?

Weydevu  
No, that's not. That's all. Thank you very much.

Ron Besser  
You're welcome. weydevu. Go ahead, Phyllis.

Phyllis:  
I've muted weydevu and Lemuel I'm unmuting you now, go ahead.

Lemuel  
All right, thank you. Ron, just a simple question. You pronounce the word regency as regency? Is this just a habit of yours? Or do you Americans spell regency with R a, instead of R e?

Ron Besser  
No, it's the American long E.

Lemuel  
Ah, The long E pronounced as an A, regency. 

Ron Besser  
That's right. 

Lemuel  
Because it's regency here. 

Ron Besser  
Well, yes. There's lots of words Lemuel, we get a different emphasis on.

Lemuel  
For you, for you, it's regency. 

Ron Besser  
I always say regency. 

Lemuel  
Okay, thank you, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
You'll have to live with it, Lemuel.

Lemuel  
Yeah, unfortunately. Okay.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, okay. Thank you. Is there anything else?

Lemuel  
No, not at the moment. Thank you so much. 

Ron Besser  
You're welcome. Yeah, Phyllis, go ahead.

Phyllis:  
I've muted Lemuel and there are no other hands raised Ron at the moment.

Ron Besser  
All right. Let me just ask among the select group here, is there anyone that has a transmission they feel they would like to supply us with? Ah, five-star.

Phyllis:  
Someone's, Lemuel just put his hand up.

Ron Besser  
Okay. unmute him. Lemuel, you're on.

Lemuel  
Yes, yes, thank you. Well, I had a well I try every morning to do a transmission, and todays nothing has been coming at all. And I'm chatting away with my Thought Adjuster, and he simply tells me to relax, that it's not my fault that there's no circuit available. 

Ron Besser  
Lemuel, this morning, the cabal took down the main trunk. I had to go through my own Adjuster to get other transmissions. I'm now informed the trunk is back up. Give it a try. Okay.

Lemuel  
Ah, well, yes, yes. All right. Thank you. 

Lemuel's Thought Adjuster  
Yes, this is Lemuel's Thought Adjuster and I can not now confirm that there is a circuit now reestablished and available because I was concerned that Lemuel was beginning to not want to throw in the towel but he gets very frustrated when in fact there is nothing coming through whatsoever and I as his Thought Adjuster want him to relax and to chill out and not to worry about the fact that at the moment that doesn't seem to be anything coming through and I think this goes for the rest of the transmitters I know that Sue and Sophia Veronica and perhaps one or two others receiving something will exactly what they receive and where that comes from I cannot comment but the fact of the matter is as far as Lemuel is concerned,

Ron Besser  
Lemuel. This is Ron I'm being informed that Manituba is breaking through to you. See if you can pick him up.

Manituba Melchizedek  
Yes, all right, thank you, I am Manituba Melchizedek. And it is my function to help as far as I possibly can be, well, not just your planetary prince Mantutia Melchizedek. But also you have been informed fairly recently that there is one very very high being referred to as Arthura. And he is able to phase down to be able to assist the transmitters. That he wants to assist all transmitters to improve their transmission abilities because it is so very, very necessary. I as Manituba Melchizedek, I would also like to be able to help in that in that matter. But in fact, I am recently assigned to help the Magisterial Foundation when it is really up and running. And to, to stand in for Ron Besser, when it is necessary, and to it take the council meetings and minutes and that sort of thing. But now that this circuit has just been reestablished, I'm quite happy to, to have these few words, to have this opportunity to have these few words through Lemuel. And to say that thank you to Lemuel. But also for the rest of you tonight, those of you who are still trying to transmit, please relax and try not to worry too much if you are not receiving anything. The fact of the matter is that there has been so many problems caused by the cabal with the destruction of the circuits, that this has been a headache for all of the celestials. And so well with those few words, in fact, I have nothing else to say other than thank you Lemuel for picking me up. And for the rest of you please relax, and try not to be too concerned when you are not able to receive anything I thank you for taking the time. 

Lemuel  
Well, thank you Manituba Melchizedek. Thank you for that. I just wait a moment if I may if I can just give me a moment, please. I'm not sensing anyone else at the moment. Ron. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Okay, Lemuel, thank you very much for your help. And Manituba, thank you for coming through. 

Manituba Melchizedek  
You're most welcome, Ron. Ron, you need to make an announcement of one sort. 

Ron Besser  
Yes. I was informed this morning that the chairman of the board of the Foundation, the Magisterial Foundation was being changed by Melchizedek name. Manituba, who was our chairman assigned, is now being replaced by Malvantra. Do I have this right Malvantra? I got a battle in here with names. 

Manituba Melchizedek  
Thank you and it is not right. Manituba is now the chairman. Malvantra was the chairman. 

Ron Besser  
I have it switched around. Yes. All right, Manituba is our new chairman of the board of the Magisterial Foundation. And Manituba. Malvantra is moving on. 

Manituba Melchizedek  
No the other way around, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
Do you want to speak? 

Manituba Melchizedek  
Yes, Ron. I don't know what the problem is up here. That's unusual. Yes. The problem is Ron, that the cabal is trying to confuse the situation. They're not getting away with it. I am not Malvantra. I am Manituba. I am not relinquishing the chairmanship. 

Ron Besser  
I'm not so sure that's clear channel. 

Manituba Melchizedek  
It is not clear channel, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
Let's clear it again. 

Manituba Melchizedek  
I am Manituba. I am no longer chairman of the Magisterial Foundation Board. The person who is chairman of the Magisterial Foundation Board  

Ron Besser  
And there, they've entered Melchizedek. Let's just drop it for the moment, if you don't mind, I can't clear it. 

Manituba Melchizedek  
Thank you, and neither can I. That individual is to be removed by death. 

Ron Besser  
Well, we'll let it go for now. Clarification will come ladies and gentlemen. As soon as I'm able to operate a brain cell that's been dislocated. 

Malvantra Melchizedek  
And we thank you. This is Malvantra. I am Chairman. 

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Malvantra. If I can only remember the V in your name that will help. Thank you. 

Malvantra Melchizedek  
We thank you. 

Ron Besser  
All right, everybody. Seeing no further inquiries, Phylis, do you? 

Phyllis:  
No, I do not. 

Ron Besser  
I don't see any either. We have 25 on the call right now.

Phyllis:  
I'm sorry. I refreshed my page and Lemuel has popped up. 

Ron Besser  
All right. Yeah, go ahead open him up.

Phyllis:  
There you go, Lemuel.

Lemuel  
Okay. Ron, I just wanted to say that that is obviously the reason why I was blubbering because I wasn't receiving clearly and I was as confused as you were. And now it is still a bit cloudy. But in fact, if Malvantra is indeed the chairman of the Magisterial Foundation, then that's fine. But as you say, drop it for the moment just in case that's not correct. But in fact, that's the reason that I was sort of bubbling the words. This is all I wanted to say, Ron. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Yes. That's the rebels in full force. They should be exterminated. But we'll leave Paradise to decide that I thank you, Lemuel.

Lemuel  
Okay, Ron Thank you. Byebye. 

Ron Besser  
All right. I think that is just about everything we have we filled our hour very nicely, I thank every one of you for attending and for your interest. Stay tuned for additional Light Lines. I have no particular announcement about any new Light Line this coming week from us but don't forget, you have other Light Lines proceeding, and tune into them to see what might be new. They are an excellent opportunity to hear emergency news. I thank you. The Foundation thanks you. And we're saying bye-bye.

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  • 092522 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser
  • Subjects: updates on Covid 19, Tarkas and Jack, the 2nd return of Jesus, WTP, the grid around Urantia, and transmitting, and the new fourth estate ascension embrace; speakers: Jesus, Tarkas, Jack0802AB, Michael of Nebadon, Mantutia Melchizedek, Universal Father, Infinite Spirit, Supernaphim #417, and Ron’s Thought Adjuster; Q & A
  • Transcribed By: RAZ
  • Link To Tape: https://app.box.com/s/xec2srax7w92m6rnddr4xylovjcr8eh5

Ron Besser  
Welcome, everybody. This is Light Line Sunday. I'm Ron Besser, your host for the 25th of September 2022. 

Tarkas  
I am Tarkas. Your host.

Ron Besser  
A welcome Tarkas. Thank you for coming. 

Tarkas  
You're most welcome, Ron. Today's Light Line might be a little long. Michael of Nebadon has requested that several speakers whom you traditionally do not hear from, at least give us some input about the situation, not only with the missions but also the equivalent of another mission, really, of the electrification of Urantia through WTP. WTP, for those of you who may not know, is the ability to transmit electricity off a tower, without wires. We now have a patent pending that can do that for a radius of 200 miles around the tower. Somehow or other it is being hotly discussed in the Department of Energy and it has refused to let the patent come back to me Ron Besser, who is its owner. 

Universal Father  1:38
I do wish to state this: that the entire matter of WTP, and this is the Father, is now being confirmed as being held up not by the Department of Energy but by the Department of State, Ron. The Department of State dislikes the entire idea at a time when Russia is attempting to lord it over the European Union (EU). Ron's invention will smack them right in the face and the Department of State thinks that is not proper at the moment. For that reason, Ron boils, there's no excuse; not even for that reason. I am the Universal Father and it will not be permitted. It is now the Department of State that is trying to rule whether the patent should be issued. And we happen to feel it should have been issued 10 days ago, that is its proper timing. I step back. 

Tarkas  
This is Tarkas. 

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Father. 

Tarkas  3:07
Now this: we are now looking at a situation on Urantia that is bothering everybody including Jesus. The problem that is now developing is that the EU is proposing that they furnish the World Health Organization with a trial run with a COVID-19 injection that inserts live viruses. That is a pandemic in the making once more. It should never be done with a retrovirus! Never! We now are going to report something else, Ron. And this is still Tarkas. 

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Tarkas I wasn't quite sure. 

Tarkas  
Thank you. The truth of the matter is I'm One Without Name and Number. Ron and Dominick had a new revelation two nights ago and Dominick transmitted a spokesman that was not identified who warned that Nebadon is about to receive a new type of order. When we say order, we are referring to a type of being: the human order, the midwayer order, the angelic order, the Sonship order, and so on. The truth of the matter is that they are proposing that there be a new Trinity embrace of certain human ascenders so often from Urantia and that these ascenders be called the Fourth Estate. You have in your Urantia Book, a paragraph or two of the Trinity embraced humans who become either: Ones Without Name and Number, Ones High in Authority, or Mighty Messengers. We are now seeking to add a fourth as a trial to run in Nebadon and on Urantia in particular. There have been no embraces. There have been no candidates assigned. But this fourth estate, which Ron prefers to call it, without a name yet, is fine with us. On your planet, the fourth estate is considered the newspapers and your mass media on television and radio; in other words, journalism. Our fourth estate will have to do not with news but with broadcasting the good word of the presence of Jesus on Urantia. They will become broadcasters. They will become those who imitate your Light and Life. Ron is going to be one of the first, I'm sure. The rest of you might join that highly honored order if you maintain your study and your practice with transmission during the Second Return. We need you now. Please continue your studies and your ways with beginning transmissions so that you become accustomed to it by the time Jesus appears. Now I'm Tarkas. I am an embraced ascender by the Paradise Trinity. I am One Without Name and Number. My colleague the old Jack0802AB was a midwayer. Tarkas was a human. Humans, Seraphim, Midwayers, and a few others not revealed to you can become Trinity embraced, the ascendant order of the Trinity embracement. Now this: the trial that we have today Ron is to be rid of the pests. Ones around you now causing discomfort. They are removed by death if they continue to push this, they're gone. And now this: I am Tarkas. Here is Jack0802AB as his old midwayer designation and those numbers refer to the parental group he belongs to which means only things to them and not to you. So we don't discuss it further. Here is Jack who is now One Without Name and Number and preferring to try the choice, as a Mighty Messenger, but that has not been changed yet. Let's see. 

Ron Besser  
Thank you Tarkas 

Jack0802AB  
This is Jack. 

Ron Besser  
And welcome Jack, please go ahead. 

Jack0802AB  10:15
Thank you, Ron. I am Jack, the midwayer, Ron enjoys so much. In the old teaching mission, I was the one who was an emcee for the Gerdean group in New Mexico. From that time to this, there has been at least six different MCs available to those different remaining transmitters on Urantia. They can no longer make connection and they are wondering why. Here's the reason. They refuse to cooperate. They refuse to join the network that we present in the Light Lines on the Magisterial Foundation basis. This discussion forum is where the network schedule is formed but it is the Magisterial Foundation that supports it with money and education. I'm Jack, and I welcome you all. I want it to be known that the entire reason that Ron is here today is that he determined that there shall be Light Lines in spite of the insurrection and the trial that the seraphic rebellion has caused everybody in Satania. That's the name of the planetary system you belong to of over 600 inhabited planets in Satania. It is your planet Urantia, one called Denselon, one called

Ron Besser  
And they're blocking it, Jack. I know it, Panoptia. there we go. We slipped around them. 

Jack0802AB  
You all know the name, Panoptia it's a twin sister planet of Urantia. They look identical to you although they behave differently. Now this: I'm Jack and Ron, you are not apparently synchronized right with your Adjuster yet. 

Ron Besser  
I'm not aware of that, Jack. I'm not aware of any problems except the continuing problem of being blocked in vocabulary by the insurrection. Other than that, I have spoken with the Adjuster. I hear no particular reason for a problem. Go ahead, Jack. Thank you. 

Jack0802AB  
Very well done Ron. Now I get it. The Adjuster is not standing guard as he usually does. He is detached and is by your side on the right side Ron and on the left side is attached a supernaphim who can count the days to your relief. And for that reason, he wishes to speak. 

Ron Besser  
Go ahead, supernaphim. We welcome you and take it as you will. 

Supernaphim #417  14:25
Thank you, Ron. I love your protocol. I am Supernaphim number 417. That's how old I am. There are over 1 trillion supernaphim. I am among the very first the Infinite Spirit portrayed as one of his concepts. I am of the concept called, let's see what we can do when the world is against us. Urantia is a boob. It's become so haughty and decision making, they feel they can change anything without proper foundation. I have been sent here by the Paradise Infinite Spirit. And that is to portray to the Infinite Spirit the problems Ron is running into over a simple conjecture that we can transmit electricity 200 miles around our tower without wires. We can, I assure you. But the patent is being fooled with by the Department of State and even by the Biden administration in the Energy Department. Ron must bring a civil lawsuit to get it loose. If they refuse, it must go to the Urantia Supreme Court. And that is the nine whatever the number is of your present constituted Supreme Court. They will usher it out, I'm sure. Meanwhile, the temptation is to throw acid on them and force it out. We must never do that because we are dependent on the United States government to house the headquarters of our missions. Ron says you have Canada, you have member states in the EU, plus Israel; somewhere among them is a better reception for you. 

Michael of Nebadon  
I fully agree with that. This is Michael. Thank you. Jack, may I take this briefly? 

Jack0802AB  
Certainly, Michael. 

Ron Besser  
Go ahead please, Michael, you're most welcome. 

Michael of Nebadon  17:50
Thank you. The truth of the matter is that Ron is looking at an obstinate Department of Energy, of State, and now the Judiciary Senate Council has been warned that unless the patent is delivered, pronto there will be a Senate hearing. Stephen Gitz passed the first number of pages of the patent to Senator Kennedy. He inquired where it was and he was told it is not to be discussed. That infuriated him. Now the fat is in the fire. I am standing back Jack. Go ahead, please. 

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Michael. We appreciate it. Thank you. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Go ahead Jack if it's you. 

Jack0802AB  
It is and I say this to you, Ron, thank you for your protocols. Now this: here is the Infinite Spirit. 

Infinite Spirit  19:28
For those of you who say it's not possible, you really are correct. I am the Infinite Spirit and I speak through my vicegerent, who I've sent to Urantia to receive my signals. And that vicegerent in return rebroadcasts on a human frequency that Ron can hear. When I speak, it is simultaneous with what Ron is saying out loud. To all people on Urantia, your time is coming when you have plenty of power. Ron sent a response to Stephen and Dominick this morning that outlines his problems particularly well. We are not going to repeat the five-page memo. But suffice it to say that without the patent and without remedial funds, he can't do a thing. And worse yet, without the presence of Rayson to inspect, there is no guarantee we wire it up right. You must understand that the Infinite Spirit is not used to niggling construction contracts, or engineering contracts to do a new technology. But Ron has his plans in mind. He knows where to start with this. And we are supporting him. For that reason, please understand that we have nothing to add to what that memo said to Dominick and Stephen, but that it should be made public with some editing. Neither Steven nor Dominick don't make it public. Let us edit and show it on a post to the public. Furthermore, the trial that we are facing not only with WTP, but the hydrogen car is that there is insurmountable objection from deities who have nothing to do with the material realm but feel that it would bleed into ultimacy in the wrong way. Ron says the concept is not difficult. No one ever thought about it, how to do it, but it's not difficult. And he says it would be a shame not to produce that kind of car for those who cannot get WTP in their area. We fully agree with that. The concept of the hydrogen car we have generates its own hydrogen. It doesn't use chemicals to do it. Ron might be able to show you the concept. But it's under the lid of secrecy right now. Furthermore, Ron knows a great deal about something called a plasma engine. He heard the back reasons it shouldn't be produced and says I don't think we should ever produce it. Not until we learn how to turn it off. 

Ron Besser  
And folks, that's the problem with the plasma engine. Once you turn it on, it's on eternally. You can't shut it off. 

Infinite Spirit  
Unless you dismantle the mechanics. We let it alone for now. 

Jack0802AB  
And finally, this: this is Jack0802AB of the old designation and an MC in my own right during the teaching mission. For that reason, I am returning to Urantia, not as a Mighty Messenger or One Without Name and Number; but One in High Authority. We are very rare. I asked to try it. The Trinity said: it's your nickel, go ahead, but if you want something else back, you can have it. That sounds good even to Ron. And he smiles. 

Ron Besser  
Yes. 

Jack0802AB  
I'm Jack0802AB and I withdraw. 

Ron Besser  
We thank you, Jack, please come again. We are honored by your presence. Thank you. 

Jack0802AB  
Thank you, Ron. 

Tarkas  
This is Tarkas. 

Ron Besser  
And yours too, Tarkas. Please go ahead. 

Tarkas  
Thank you. The truth of the matter is Ron, your protocols are even better than ours. You assign each one of us the dignity of personhood and friendship. That is so rare, we don't always know what to do with it. 

Ron Besser  
I will not have a parade. No one will be caged. 

Tarkas  
Now this: the truth of the matter is that there is nothing further for me to report. But I know that Michael of Nebadon has plenty to say. I stand back, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
We thank you, Tarkas. And welcome, Michael, if it is you? 

Michael of Nebadon  
It is indeed.

Ron Besser  
Please go ahead as you will. 

Michael of Nebadon  26:46
Thank you, Ron. The truth of the matter is that in these first, oh, almost half hour, we have portrayed just about everything we wanted to say for this Light Line. However, I want to add one thing that is not on the agenda. And that is that there are several of you listening who want to be transmitters. We had an individual ask to learn transmitting recently. The instructions have gone out. He is doing fine. The truth of the matter is that many of you do not wish to be bothered. Well, I'm telling you we don't want to bother particularly with you when the point is you can do it and that is our need right now. If you need a start, send Ron an email and tell him what you think. Furthermore, Amethyst, we're for coming after you. You are going to be asked to do a Light Line again in a week. Not this coming week. But the week beyond that. Discuss it with Ron, and tell him what you view. And we hear it very well when Ron is in contact with any of you. Furthermore, the need for Dominick to improve his schedule is all that is needed. This morning Dominick you didn't particularly care to and didn't. That's how we read it. You must produce or just cut the line. Furthermore, Ron, you are reaching finally the final adjudication of your situation in heart. You believe it's none of their business what you like or dislike, but it is and you sent them sailing back home without any adjudication. That must stop. 

Ron Besser  
We don't stop that, Michael. Thank you. It's not a challenge. I assume that the mind, the nervous system, has its own intonation and you react to the environment as best your body can, I do not control it. Thank you

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael. I'm studying the remarks. And that is true for every one of you. I know it is. But the trial that must be afforded to God is absolute priority and nothing else. Ron has assigned to that and has founded total ability to meet it without qualification. What the fracas is, is that free will reigns on Urantia and we do not have robots serving us. That makes it exceedingly difficult for the human level to participate when they represent God. Ron says there are at least two levels of service in the Magisterial Foundation. One is the executive level. And one of it is the levels below it whatever you wish to call them, that do not have this serious refraining of habits that God doesn't want you to display during representation. We fully understand that the issue with you, Ron is huge. And that the entire matter is not a matter of free will and not of habit, but inclusion in the genes. That's what you're saying. Thank you. I conclude that we have a very serious disagreement on service in the Magisterial Foundation. For that reason, Ron, you are on notice that you may not be the qualified individual to run it. And I heard him say we always welcome the Melchizedeks. I fully support that, Ron, thank you. Now this: we just had an exchange with each other in the morontial. Ron says, there is nothing further and I said, but there is. Your refutation of a demand of the Creator Son is serious enough, but you're saying you're asking a man to breathe underwater. He can't do it. I fully assume that. For that reason, we send this to all of you. The personalization of Jesus is one thing. The policy of Jesus is another and for that reason, Ron, you may be nicked even off representing Jesus. And Ron says so be it. You can't change black to white.

Ron Besser  
Unless you're Father.

Michael of Nebadon  
Exactly. This is Michael of Nebadon. I'm enjoying the concept, Ron. You're only standing your ground. You are not yelling. 

Ron Besser  
No, I'm not. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. The truth of the matter is that Amethyst wanted to do a book. We didn't think it was a particularly good idea for her to do it now. But she's completed it and is looking for a publisher. That's not against the will of God. Neither is Ron. But we are being persnickety about who is on stage with Jesus. And Jesus is referring to me to determine the policy of who and what can stand there with him. You, Ron, are soiled temperance, I repeat that soiled temperance for that reason you are now disobeying the Creator Son and refuting my absolute demand to conform to what I ask. What say you? 

Ron Besser  
I reserve the right to speak later Michael. The Adjuster, I am sure can put the issue succinctly. If you would Adjuster for me, please. 

Ron's Thought Adjuster  
This is the Adjuster that came out to you on July 10, 1988, Ron. We see you hang on to life precariously. You fight for it. You believe in it. You love to show it. But Michael is correct. You may not disobey the direct order and therefore are lessened in degree of representation. Good day. 

Michael of Nebadon  
The Adjuster has spoken and you Ron are now reduced to the level of the executive of the Magisterial Foundation only and are not in its policymaking. We get the point, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
He shook a contract that is saying until you buy this thing I'm going to, I'm going to wear it to market.

Mantutia Melchizedek  
Thank you, Ron. This is Mantutia Melchizedek, Ron. We dare not restore anything. But you heard the word restore. 

Ron Besser  
Yes, yes, I did. 

Mantutia Melchizedek  
And what does that mean to you? 

Ron Besser  
Oh, it may mean.

Mantutia Melchizedek  
Don't you dare say that.

Ron Besser  
I'm fixing my face up. 

Michael of Nebadon  
No. That's not what it means either. The truth of the matter is that Michael has pontificated over and over and over the many issues you represent. There's none worse than the entire fable that you look at, at social relationships, teachings, and other matters that makes this exceedingly difficult to administer. You are not allowed to say hello to subhumans and others and for that reason you say?

Ron Besser  
That's where the ministry goes too. I can't tell the difference. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Fully understood. Now this: Ron just told me morontially what I wanted to hear. 

Ron Besser  
Michael, I'm not arguing about this at all. 

Michael of Nebadon  
I finally understand that. For reasons of state, the entire matter is being referred to the Council of Equilibrium. It must make a final decision and you will obey. 

Ron Besser  
Michael, when God speaks I have no choice. 

Michael of Nebadon  39:33
Truly. You say that brilliantly. Now this: the truth of the matter is Ron, there is no objection to you whatsoever in any case, but we brought it to a head to see what you would do before the public. You're surprised, but are not shaken up?

Ron Besser  
No, no, there's no need to be shaken up. I've had to have my nose down to the grindstone nearly for 80 years. Things work better that way. Without other contracts to worry about. I simply now am meeting the rubber to the road and whatever you wish in service is done. Although I can't stop the body, or the mind, or the spirit that moves me. 

Michael of Nebadon  
I fully agree with that and give you full confidence. You know what you're doing? 

Ron Besser  
Mantutia, may I have a private word? One moment people.

Mantutia Melchizedek  
Well enough, said Ron, this is Mantutia. The jackhammer is not on you or anyone. But you are in the policy-making decision that makes all things work well or unwell. You are toeing the line now and continue to do so. I know your heart. For reasons of state, this discussion is now over and replete. 

Michael of Nebadon  41:43
Now, this is Michael of Nebadon. I have one more important issue that addresses all of you. The truth of the matter is that we now have 30 on the call. Thanks to internet audio and the direct telephone service. The streaming service is so bad, it turns itself on and five minutes later crashes. We can't get Charles seemingly to fix it. We need the streaming repaired Charles, go to something more expensive, if you will, and charge the Magisterial Foundation. Thank you. And finally this: the entire matter of using the audio internet is well as long as the internet is up. I don't think it will be frankly, in a month or so. Too many people have too much access. Ron says there should be two tiers one for the public and one for high users. This connection is a high-user end. We don't mind paying more to save the bandwidth and that it precludes just anybody using it. No one has ever thought of that. Comcast is a moron. They can't even keep the email running right. For that reason, we should apologize to Comcast. But they're charging an arm and a leg and delivering an arm. We are suspecting that Comcast will fold when the overwhelming service needs cannot be met. That is the supposition. Now the following: I am Michael of Nebadon. I now carry two new honors. Ron's already delighted. One is I'm no longer ombudsman. Father says okay I get the point; Nebadon needs a compass, a direction finder, and power, Michael of Nebadon. For that reason, the ombudsman is not discussed with Nebadon. Furthermore, now that Father has relieved me of ombudsman, I am now assigned to the fracas on Urantia called the United States government. Their behavior under Biden is reprehensible. If they do not straighten themselves out soon, a certain Department of State chief may find himself sitting on the curb and the DOE chief sitting with him. We are not going to tolerate this kind of interference. Furthermore, Ron, we take you at your word. If the United States is idiot enough to assign the EU, the headquarters of the Divine missions then you shall go probably to Germany. Yes, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
Ron is German from the tip of his head to the tip of his feet. He's only the second generation. Boy, I didn't ever look at it that way. I just did. Oh, my.

Michael of Nebadon  
And for you, everybody Germany and the speech of the German is not pleasant to the ear. We may go to England, and maybe even to France. If we can't get the Biden administration, to finally put his belly on top of the bar and order something nonfattening. For reasons of state, belly up to the bar is a 19th-century invitation to have a drink on you. Ron knows it well. But we use it to say if you're going to be of service, then belly up to the bar. Okay. And finally this: we have a little bit of time for Q&A. Five star if you want a question answered. I stand down now. And thank you all. 

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Michael. We appreciate it. Good day. 

Michael of Nebadon  
Good day. 

Ron Besser  
Weydevu I see you. You're unmuted weydevu.

Weydevu  
Okay, thank you, Ron. Ron, my understanding that the morontian grid was to support the morontian beings that live in that grid. And what is the meaning of the grid being shut down?

Ron Besser  
The morontials are dead.

Weydevu  
Oh man, what?

Ron Besser  
Isn't that simple? Now let me give you the real answer. The truth of the matter is the grid had to be taken down anyhow. I don't think you remember the work we did in about 2017 where the grid was suddenly discovered to be being misused. 

Weydevu  
Right.

Ron Besser  
The Melchizedeks spent a lot of time and effort repairing it. But we are now discovering it's being misused again, by the insurrection of the Seraphim and even by Lucifer. The grid remains down and probably never will be put up again. I am now going to an authority on this, Mantutia Melchizedek. Go ahead, Mantutia, please. 

Mantutia Melchizedek  50:13
Thank you, Ron, you have your ways Ron with being correct. The truth of the matter is weydevu, that when a person now dies on Urantia they are escorted immediately to the staging area where they can be enseraphimed and move to the resurrection worlds. They are no longer required to walk a dark path to the light. That was an old-fashioned idea, we decided was not essential. Now, the soul is advised that he wait and be escorted to the transport. There is no need to breathe morontia air because the soul now is oxygenated like your body. That's a major change. Does that answer your question?

Weydevu  
Yes, it does. I appreciate it. Thank you. 

Ron Besser  
Sure. Anything else?

Weydevu  
Yes. On Lemuel's Light Line, you were about to elaborate about the seasons of fall. And you was saying that the beginning of fall was also in relation to the Second Return, but you never did get a chance to elaborate on it when something else happened and you started talking about something else. Could you elaborate on it now?

Ron Besser  
Yeah, I can't because I don't know what I meant.

Weydevu  
Okay, but well, you were talking about fall at the beginning of fall. Yeah. You had a relationship to the Second Return of Christ.

Ron Besser  
Well, it's not Christmas. 

Weydevu  
No. 

Ron Besser  
No, I don't know the relationship. If I ever knew I don't have it now. 

Weydevu  
Okay. 

Jesus  52:35
This is Jesus. Ron is playing a party prank not on you, but on me. It was I who said that, weydevu. It wasn't Ron. Ron doesn't know what it means. But I do. This is what it means. With the application of fall on the 22nd of September, we were prepared to clear the Lucifer rebellion. And now are prepared to prepare the removal of the insurrectionists of the seraphic order and associated orders. For that particular reason, there is no good idea to say that Jesus will appear the 10th of October. That's the drop dead date that we mentioned before. Now it can be any time once the insurrection is cleared, that I can say hello, in the flesh to you. It's a matter of about 12 days. But now I am free in spite of the 10th of October being the announced date. It could be before. I was making a joke about September, weydevu. 

Weydevu  
Okay. 

Ron Besser  
Was there anything else?

Weydevu  
Yes. My last question. You mentioned that if the case against WTP if it went to the court and it didn't pass it would go through the Urantia Supreme Court. And I was wondering how would the Urantia Supreme Court enforce its decision, would that be through the Regency?

Ron Besser  54:44
No, I mistakenly said the Urantia Supreme Court. I meant the United States Supreme Court. 

Weydevu  
Oh, okay. 

Ron Besser  
That should answer that. 

Weydevu  
Right. Well, my last question. This is my last question. What, what's up with your white papers?

Ron Besser  
I'm keeping them back. I've been warned to keep them back.

Weydevu  
Oh okay.

Ron Besser  
They're. It has, they're full of concepts that the physicists haven't even understood that preparticles have makeup they don't know about and are refusing to entertain. As long as they refuse to entertain the nature of materialization those white papers are like feeding a shredding machine, the Bible. It can't be done with any straight face. You understand?

Weydevu  
Some of it? Yes.

Ron Besser  
It means they don't understand enough to be cooperative.

Weydevu  
Okay. I understand that. 

Ron Besser  
All right. 

Weydevu  
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
You're most welcome. weydevu. Thank you. All right let's see if there's anybody else. Oh, yes. hello, Valerie. you're unmuted. Go ahead.

Valerie  
Hello, thank you. Yeah, one of my questions would have been to ask if the insurrection is being removed. But if I understand it now, Jesus just said that it's about the last days to finish that.

Ron Besser  
Valerie, no time was attached to that except immediately. And I'm not quite sure what that really means. 

Jesus  
This is Jesus. Ron, thank you. It does mean immediately, Valerie. Today, Ron has been harassed all over the place. We need to see to it that it's not just for Ron it's for everybody. That they are gathered, remanded into custody, and then removed from insurrection around Urantia and Salvington.

Valerie  
Thank you so much. Now, what will happen to the humans then, are they going to be cleared who are serving them?

Ron Besser  
I don't quite understand what you mean, the humans, are you're talking about insurrectionists?

Valerie  
There are dedicated humans who gave them you know who, who made blood covenant with dark forces do they need to be cleared now or just

Ron Besser  
They are not, they are not of the kingdom. And I don't know what Jesus intends to do with those that can't get in. 

Jesus  58:18
This is Jesus. I love the speech, Ron. The truth of the matter is, all of you here are of the kingdom. But all you have to do is side with insurrection and you'll find yourself sitting on the curb again. I will not tolerate indifference. I will not tolerate the inability to serve because of your preferences. We serve each other. We serve the kingdom. Ron much prefers the word kingdom. And so do I now that I hear it.

Valerie  
That's beautifully said, thank you. Now I'm also concerned about the underground facilities as you know they have a lot of black budget operations there and a lot to do with human trafficking. Those are those facilities are also being cleared and monitored for activities. It's just a huge amount of darkness there.

Ron Besser  
You're talking about what humans are doing with other humans, are you not?

Valerie  
Yes, and I never separate them from the devils either. Because if they do such a thing, they really are under the influence of the Luciferians. Nobody would do such an evil just on their own, I believe.

Ron Besser  
They are under evil influences, not Lucifer in most cases, yet the seraphic spirit could care less about human trafficking but the point is, no. Those individuals have to die a normal death and be adjudicated. That is still the law, Valerie.

Valerie  
Okay. Now about the Chinese man who brought upon us the COVID-19 with his misconduct, is I understand, he was resurrected and needs to apologize to 12 million people. Is that what that meant? 

Ron Besser  
That's what was said. Yeah. That was what was said.

Valerie  
But how can that be possible to apologize to over 12 million people? How long would that take? And how would he ever be restored in his mind when he has to just keep repeating, what he has done 12 million times?

Ron Besser  
You're asking me how God does something? I don't know, Valerie.

Valerie  
Okay. But he's not yet accepted into the kingdom. He's just been resurrected right? Before judgment.

Ron Besser  
I heard that said, I have not had it confirmed. 

Jesus  1:01:21
This is Jesus. Thank you, Ron. As usual, the truth of the matter is that individual has survived. He is now being brought before due process. And if he doesn't conserve his own name, God will not. That's how precarious this is. Any further explanation will have to wait until you're up here, Valerie. 

Valerie  
Okay. 

Ron Besser  
We're not going to discuss it further.

Valerie  
That's fine. I'm just trying to understand, but thank you for that. May I have a question about transmitting or better if I send you an email?

Ron Besser  
No, go ahead, go ahead. 

Valerie  
I can. Okay. After many trials and errors, finally, I really would like to become a transmitter meaning I practice every morning, but I do not have the confidence to know that what I'm receiving is really how much is me sending or my subconscious. So when it comes to me this level of insecurity, time to time, I really would like to know, just one thing is, am I still qualifying or invited to become? Or sometimes I just feel like, okay, this is not going to wait. But I need confirmation. 

Ron Besser  
Yeah. That's a universal concern. 

Valerie  
Yeah. 

Ron Besser  
Am I going anywhere but into a black hole?

Valerie  
Would anyone give me a word that I can hang my hang to, please?

Ron Besser  
Well, shut up.

Valerie  
Ok. I can do that. But you know, honestly.

Ron Besser  
No, when you keep bleeting, we can't get in. 

Jesus  1:03:23
The truth of the matter is, this is Jesus. You are practicing with unqualified people called yourself, your subconscious, and your conscious. You are going there rather than going into the universe, Valerie. Ron knows the difference when you speak. He can hear it. The truth of the matter is stop doing what you're doing for three days. Do not bother practicing. Do you understand that?

Valerie  
Yes, thank you. I understand that. 

Ron Besser  
Okay. On the fourth day, which should be about what Thursday? Monday, Tuesday Wednesday, yeah, that should be about Thursday. Sit down and tell yourself I'm going to do this. You don't want anybody around you, Valerie. Put both feet flat on the floor, sit straight in your chair, and your hands on the keyboard. Then you say to yourself, with your hands on the keyboard ready to type. I am Michael of Nebadon and if you're listening at all you will transmit. 

Valerie  
Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Stop what you're doing now. It doesn't hurt.

Valerie  
Yes. Now may I ask? Jesus knows you don't know Ron but maybe you know, many years ago, I've been writing a whole lot which I have received from above. It's been really revolutionary to me. So I know I have not made it up. I don't have that capacity. What happened? Why have I lost that ability? I can't comprehend it. 

Ron Besser  
I'll tell you why. Valerie. It's psychosomatic. You know what that term means? 

Valerie  
Yes, yes. 

Ron Besser  
All right. It's cutting across your faith. 

Valerie  
Uh hmm, okay. 

Ron Besser  
I can't tell you, I'm not there. If I were there, I might be able to pick something up. But I'm too far away. I can't tell by phone. The reason that you get into those blockages is that you insist on seeing to others and their worries. It's a poison. It introduces blockages. You need to clear your mind of worrying for others, at least for the next three days. It will make it so much easier for you.

Valerie  
Thank you very much.

Ron Besser  
That's been rather blunt. But it needs to be said now. 

Valerie  
Yes. Ok.

Ron Besser  
Is that everything?

Valerie  
Yes, very helpful. Thank you very much. I do that.

Ron Besser  
I'm putting you back. I'm trying to put you back, There we go. 

Valerie  
I'm muted now.

Ron Besser  
It refuses to remute. There we go. Don't touch it. All right, I see that we have a question. I don't have a name for you. Telephone ending in what looks like 3882. Go ahead, please, if you have a question.

Dennis  
My name is Dennis. Hello, can you hear me?

Ron Besser  
I can hear you very well. Thank you.

Dennis  
I have a question concerning the ascension career. 

Ron Besser  
Yes. 

Dennis  
In the Urantia Book, it's the description of the ascension career is only given up to the it was called the sixth stage of a six-stage spirit. And if I remember correctly, it said the the the finaliters in Paradise are at the sixth level of attainment. And there's some other level that is unknown beyond that, but that has not yet been revealed. And I was wondering now that we are in a new universe, is there anything that can be said concerning that?

Ron Besser  
All right, I am now connecting to the Universal Censor. 

Universal Censor  
This is the Universal Censor that sits over Ron's head to make sure he doesn't get into invalid revelation. You have asked a very pertinent question. The answer is that yes, there is a change but not to the spirit level status of a finaliter. The finaliter now removes all of the former idea of being a human animal or a spirit morontial ascender and even of all spirit. The sixth stage spirit form is fully spirit. It exhausts the idea of spirit in form. What the seventh stage spirit form will be is ultimacy. That is not revealed yet. But many finaliters will be called to a constellation called. 

Ron Besser  
And I may not speak it, I know it, but I may not speak it. It's a new constellation, it's outside of Satania. 

Universal Censor  1:08:51
And for that reason training will undergo like you do on the morontial worlds where you ascend through phases of correcting until you're seventh stage. That will permit you to go to the first and second outer space levels as servants of the Trinity. Does that help you?

Dennis  
Yes, yes it does. And I also have, maybe it's the, it's the same question asked in a different way. But in these Light Lines, it's been mentioned before that Jesus is currently a deity, if I remember correctly, and I was wondering also if there was any relationship between that level of attainment and the seventh level for the finaliters if there was any relationship between them.

Universal Censor  
This is a Universal Censor. I have never spoken before. But you're now into really new revelation that's beyond the Urantia Book. And I know you knew that. We must be exceedingly careful not to exceed your mind frame with regard to the Fifth Epochal Revelation, the Urantia Book. For that reason, we are stating that any discussion having to do with relationships between existing deity and the ascension career as finaliters for the outer space levels one and two is really left up to God the Ultimate insofar as He may approach settling all four outer space levels. Sir, we do not know yet what His intention is, since the loss of the supreme. He was depending on, God the Supreme to prepare the ascender to have sufficient mind change and spirit change to handle the idea of ultimacy and the reversion of time. We have never discussed on this Light Line that ultimacy requires reexamination of God the Supreme solutions, how to build WTP if we did it and if it worked. Ultimacy would look at that and say, why did you do that? Do this and correct it perfectly. That is what we mean by referring to ultimacy as reposting what the Supreme did, it takes the mind to be able to handle more than steps to correction. It requires the deep understanding of certain issues within infinity that you are not yet prepared to address even as sixth-stage spirits. The finaliters will be taught. I'm now, am allowed to say the constellation on Orion. Certain individuals already on this site are to have their normal ascension careers done on Orion with the expectation they will graduate seven stage spirits. That's far into the future as far as your mind is concerned. I wouldn't doubt that it takes several million years. I hope this helps a little. I am the Universal Censor, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
And we thank you for your attention and we appreciate yours, Universal Censor. I don't think we've ever had such specific authority. 

Universal Censor
Thank you, Ron. Good day. 

Ron Besser
Good day, and thank you. Does that help?

Dennis  
Yes, it does. Thank you very much.

Ron Besser  
You're most welcome. And thank you for your questions. All right. I'm muting. I'm checking to see if there's any, ahh yes. Robert, let me unmute you. You're unmuted. Robert, I hear you. Go ahead.

Robert  
Ok, Ron. Thank you. Ron, the exercise that I think it was Jesus give, we got in transmission, give to Valerie to do is that apply to everybody that would like to transmit?

Ron Besser  
Yes, providing you have everything within you to do that. Robert, remember, the petition to transmit, transmit, which I'm sure you have done, requires spirit to reset the mind to be able to hear verbally, that that which frequency comes into your mind chakra that's at the crown of your head. There are five little cells at the swirl of your hair at the back. Those cells transmit to the pituitary gland and other glands, the frequency of communication from spirit. It is the need of spirit to further transmit from the gland to your auditory nerve. Then it is possible to transmit. Robert, you have it all in place, but you're stubborn. You have placed a block in your way that says if I do not do this in a particular way, I don't get success. Well, the problem is your particular way bypasses your hearing. I can't fix it at a distance. Maybe if you were here I could. But the truth of the matter is, you need to work it out for yourself. Remember what I told Valerie, do not have a preconceived notion when you sit to transmit. What you do after you center yourself, and don't take a long time, just clear the mind with both feet on the floor. And begin when your mind is quiet and just say out loud I am Michael of Nebadon and words should start to flow. They have made it easier and easier. If you don't get it try it again.

Robert  
Okay, Ron, I will keep trying. 

Ron Besser  
Okay, that sounds good. 

Robert  
Thank you very much. 

Ron Besser  
You're most welcome, bye-bye.

Robert  
Bye-bye. 

Ron Besser  
All right, I'm checking the desktop. I see no further questions. One moment all right. I assume that we have now reached the end of our Light Line. Tarkas did you have something to say please? 

Tarkas  
Ron, how do you do that? 

Ron Besser  
I was informed. 

Tarkas 1:19:30 
I see you were, this is Tarkas. I am now closing my service to all of you, Ron. For the simple reason, I'm being promoted. Not to the curb Ron. I am now not only One Without Name and Number but like Jack, I am now allowed to experiment with Mighty Messenger, and One High in Authority. I have to take my time to do that. And I leave you sadly. And, Ron, good day. 

Ron Besser  
Tarkas, this is Ron, may I speak? 

Tarkas  
Certainly. 

Ron Besser  
We are not of the opinion this means you disappear. We will not take that kindly or otherwise. But I know you need your practice with what you decide is favorable in your choices. Take all your time. And then tell Ronnie how you did. 

Tarkas  
Yes, I shall do that. 

Ron Besser  
We bless you and thank you deeply for your service Tarkas and to Jack and to all of you from that area. We look forward to being with you again and meeting. Thank you, Tarkas. Good day. 

Tarkas  
Good day, Ron. And thank you. 

Ron Besser  
Well, everybody, I think that concludes our Light Line. I'm going to shut the tape off.

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