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As the World Is Today - Revelatory Text
« on: December 26, 2017, 02:25:45 PM »
As the World Is Today

T/R: Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Dnepayotia *(Ron Besser’s fused name)
Revelation of Michael of Nebadon's true name: HORTIEN DIAPETRA SONSANNORTIA CLAYOTIA DNEPAYOTIA
♦        Revelation of New Planetary System Name
♦        Revelation of the three fused individuals fused names
♦        Revelation Original Certain Midwayers are now Archangels in Nebadon

December 26, 2017
2PM York, PA USA

This is Michael.

Ron asked if there was any cheer the day after the Christmas binge on Urantia?

Nothing much except to remind all of you that Christmas as just experience in the last 24 hours is over with for good anymore. It is not a happy holiday anymore and it leaves most of us leathery and chilled as so little time is spent on the religious aspects of it. Our work is to continue unabated and as is as you have been told a gazillion times before. Margul is here.



MARGUL - TRINITY TEACHER SON -
“We at the Trinity, see little to cheer ourselves with as Boxing day in the Commonwealth countries (the 26th) leaves much to be desired and few people feel euphoric in the EU at all and very little in Great Britain. The Queen of England had her Christmas speech well received by Ron as much as the BBC would show of it on American television. He noted the first speech by the Queen greeing her subjects was made in 1957, and saw little in it in that day that forbode what it would be like in 2017 as her grandson Harry plans to marry an American.

“We pray in the Trinity to have America prepare for a solitary wedding for Trump and his new bride Kim Jung Un, are asked to make nice and let the pot stop boiling hard enought to spill over into war. We doubt there is any goodwill left in China or Japan or South Korea for North Korea but we wait to see what happens in the entire region because right now it is a tinder box of countervailing discussions on how to prevent North Korea from blowing itself up.

“We leave this board alone for a few days as the Nebadon government wails over what is happening on Urantia. Not only is North Korea behaving badly, Iran is about to blast the Americans for their lack luster rating on the Treaty banning work on their nuclear plans. North Korea sent an emissary to Irant last month and got such a warm wlecome they are not sure they are talking to the old Iran which wanted out of the race for that kind of bomb. Now all is back on the stove and we wait for the Americans to trump themselves out of peace once again.

“The Trinity has very little to do with the coming of Jesus to Urantia. You who watch the gauges of expectations are truly out of luck as Jesus never admits defeat unless he pre tastes it for himself first. Things are now so rocky on Urantia we make no predictions for anyone at this moment in time as to what to expect when once again. I follow this with the statement next below:

“You are being forced to feed on your own views on this list and Ron has seen to it he makes very little statements since he sees little to cheer about in the Jesus schedule to bear fruit to the eye of the beholder. I am seldom disappoint but today we see Michael hanging up his slicker since the rain of disappoitnment is even too much to stand out in all of that in spite of the protection of such a rain coat. In any case we must not give into temptation so far we end the vigil as it will not end in spirit as it waits for the consequences of the Trump admin to get its act together for a change and reorder the peace negotiations with Korea to start up once again. Kin Jung un has no hope and he is truly a sorry mess at the breakfast table in the past few weeks as Trump nixed talks even before they had a chance to start.

“I am Margul and I leave it to Mother Spirit to conclude this.”



MOTHER SPIRIT -
“We seldom see Ron so non pleased that he cares little what can be said over stalemates caused by a Trump confusional statement as he makes frequently these days. Twice now the Most Highs signaled we could go ahead with Jesus and his choices for Urantia, and twice now Jesus himself ask for things to be delayed or postponed. We doubt the Magisterial Mission can sustain much more of this and we may signal the Magisterial Mission to proceed without its vanguard of Jesus and his Staff of profession Archangels and Evening Stars, as they flock to his side for work and work they cannot with the belligerency of Donald Trump goading Asia to face up to North Korea. We also have Andromadeus for a few words now:”



ANDROMADEUS , CHIEF OF THE MOST HIGHS OF NORLATIADEK

“As a Chief of a most important segment of the ruling hierarchy of spirit in Nebadon, I call upon all of you to pray that the President of the United States learn humility before it is taught to him with a strike of a nuclear weapon on the United States. We are not predicting this, but he invites the enmity of all nuclear nations to shut him up and pay attention to his own wounds. We on high secretly wish him gone but he is a fact of life we have to formulate in our pronouncements to our citizens on Edentia and Salvington alike. In our best formation we see Trump as a useless tradition of warfare dating back to the Middle Ages and we dare not file for further writing as Ron is being bombarded by his Adjuster to quit and let the trial of these last remaining days of 2017 end, we hope, peacefully. I am Andromadeus seconded by Hortien, the Most High specialist on Urantia also known as Michael of Nebadon.”



MICHAEL OF NEBADON -
“As Michael of Nebadon, my formal name is Hortien. It is phonetically pronounced (hor’ tea N). My announced name is Hortien Diapetra (Diah Pet’ Rah). Those names refer to one of the clan names of the Creator Sons (Diapetra - the clan of Diapetra) and Hortien is like your first names in that clan as you use William or Martha and so on. My other names are as follows: Hortien Diapetra Sonsannortia, (Sun San Nor Sha) refers to the purpose of my personalization and is never spoken but always just written in formal documents to me. My final name is Clayotia (Clay Oh Sha) which is appended to my name when I am out of my Local Universe doing business as Hortien they call me Clayotia and Father appends all my names in one word: Creator Son Michael 611121. All spirit has to do is enter that number into their conversant communication device and all those name appears.



HORTIEN DIAPETRA SONSANNORTIA CLAYOTIA DNEPAYOTIA speaks:
“This is my personal entity name and all of you have such names too when you fuse on the Mansion worlds. Ron’s fused name is: Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Dnepayotia (Den pay oh sha) and when simply stated Ron is called Dnepayotia, which means something like he is a live one.

“Lemuel’s fused name is Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Bneyatoia (Bhen nay oh sha), and that is a twin name with Ron and rhymes with Ron’s name.

“Larry Gossett’s fused name is likewise Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Bytortia (By Tor Sha). These names are alphabetized on Paradise by date of fusion and all three persons here received the same fusion date of 7.2.3.141527- 4157 which is translated as Superuniverse 7, Sectors 2 and 3 combined, in the event calendar of Nebadon on Urantia (4157). Our calendar on Salvington is the spirit calendar and no one understands it but the angles who write on it. I have now done my duty as an Archangel who pronounces these names to fused humans on Mansion World Four. I call forth the Archangel of Record that witnessed these three fusions for his statements to the souls on Mansion World Three at that time.



ARCHANGEL “A” -
“In these sons we are well pleased, as the Father conditionally fuses you no more than to except that translation by chariots of fire which they are due at translation form Urantia when they are released from duty. Be assured I speak your names fully as of that time of fusion and grant you sixty days of leave from all duty to rest on the Mansion World of choice. Since your fusion has actually taken place on the planet known as Urantia, number 606 of the existing Planetary System of Satania, henceforth to be known as Santiena (San Teen Ah), in the Constellation of Norlatiadek under the Most High, Andromadeus. Santiena is the likely replacement name for the Urantia based planetary system but it is not yet fully decided or entered into the maps as of yet. Today Urantia lives in Santiena but tomorrow in may live in Byantoptia (By An Tope Sha), and Byantoptia may actually become the fixed name for Santiena.

“I am Archangel Bernice and I assumed the duties of an Archangel upon the release of my name from the Council of Twenty-four (24), and I was Governor General of Urantia when Ron and Lemuel were born. Larry Gossett was born under the general rulership of Michael Himself when the succession of Governor General’s was disrupted in the year Gossett became a valid human creature of that year. Besides ABC-01, Bernice; ABC-02, ABC-04, ABC-07 and ABC-10, all have assumed Archangel duties in Nebadon until further approval is solicited from the Eternal Son.”



THE ETERNAL SON Speaks:
“No Archangel has better served Nebadon than this group of Midwayers representing both genders at their birth 37,500 years ago approximately. In their birth status they showed perfunctory skills as Midwayers and that was it. But during the last years of seditious rebellion, all named showed valor and courage to clear the area they worked in of all rebellion personnel in order to make clear decisions as either Governor Generals or as workmen of the Michael government on high for Urantia. These brave individuals are now sentenced to service in Nebadon as true Archangels and they are fully enlivened to speak now, I am the Eternal Son and I wish all a good day.”



ABC-01 BERNICE -
“We as a group never thought such would occur, but it did in 1986 when the announcement of the end of the Lucifer Rebellion adjudication ended. We are being signed to by the Father to pay attention to a Father statement of interest: . . .”



THE FATHER -

“Ron your name is profane on a list that wants you removed immediately and they are calling upon the leader of that list to dismiss you and remand you to the custody of some devil they invented for you. Not so. There is unanimous acclaim for your reports to them about the Paradise Trinity, as another one has surface there to assing you to a special category of subscriber. That person is the owner of the list and wants you to write a soliloquy not but an explanation of what you posesess so he can prepare a special category for you to hold forth on any subject you may wish, It is too good to be true Ron thinks and we agree as it is conditioned on you paying him one hundred thousand compliments in your research to alarm no one but to provide the truth to the list as you perceive it from us. This is not a ruse but a change of plans we allow for you to speak to a group of people hungry for your information. We do no good holding you back in this endeavor and we wish others on this discussion forum to recognize Ron has received a high honor as well as a request to write as he pleases. You Ron are cleared to write with our help (Ron: I would not and I cannot write without your required help for me Father and others). We also admit your poison pill is not overweening pride but truthfulness to the point he sours the great powers on that list who think they know more than anyone else but you must prefer to give them the best you can without wowing them as you did lately with a discussion of the pressure of space to guide space ships inward or outward fomr locations outside of Paradise. You are not wrong and how you deinged to discover that we can only that the Deity Absolute who adores your style of humor and decision making to stay the course in spite of the bad mouthing of the clergy over your view of the Paradise Trinity. You sadly removed two from the list when they discovered you made no error about Isaiah and the clergy who saw it wondered what you meant and finally connected it with Ezekiel as to his experience with the chariots of flames they never payed much attention to before. Now they clearly see your point and wish to know a great deal more for their own edification. The chariots of flames story is a great one and you will transmit what is left of Ezekiel at this point in his spiritual ascension. We leave the rest of it for another time dear one of Urantia. It is true and you will be called by one of them this week sometime if you are willing to chat with a cell phone that says the list name on it. Good. This is Father and finally good news for you Ron. We now return you to the speech of Bernice known on Urantia as ABC-01.”



ABC-01, BERNICE

“I seldom am shocked at what humanity does, but the Father stating what he did above for Ron to hear himself, that a list finally recognizes the enormity of your human learning and how it makes a huge impression on those whose jobs are to teach spirituality. I am no longer an Archangel Ron as that commission died with my use of the work humanity as you are not human fully anymore and you need time to rest and reflect with or without complications there. I am Bernice and I speak to you as a friend of the Court, and make this announcement for most of you who really listen to what drags out of us as he works tirelessly to learn our natures and our ways so he may be competent to explain us in some furture talk he may have with humans just learning what is true about us and spirit.

“Therefore, let it be known that this transmitter is being assigned to my Corp of Excellence on high where he can learn to speak properly before the high spirit of the Court and of and to Michael and it begins with the protocol of speaking to Michael of Nebadon as Hortien Diapetra and the rest of his form name appended thereafter. Ron has no memory cells in the brain and must learn by rote and he will have new memory cells in a few days as we are now permitted to replace them with all of his memory returned plus a few more things he will discover later on as he is one of the few to win an accolade from a human organization for being what he is. Good. Now this:”



HORTIEN DIAPETRA SONSANNORTIA CLAYOTIA DNEPAYOTIA:
“I am now Michael of Nebadon no more to Ron as he may use my name in public where appropriate as Hortien Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Dnepayotia - and that I so fully appreciate as we now have someone on Urantia who speaks to me in my formal attire before I chat with them, You ask that this be true and that it cannot wait upon your deliverance from the flesh to easily reacall it since you cannot place anything into your mind memory as you are presently built up there, I am not Michael of Nebadon to most but to many I am Hortien Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Dnepayotia, and that is thanks to your PC Windows clipboard you placed the full name in it. I laugh with you but keep it handy for future reference and it should be as a template for all board discussions as well with Mantutia and others you will come to know as you drive away the black spots of the disarrangement of the clergy over your teachings concerning the Paradise Trinity. I saw you literally figure out how UFO’s and other space travelers can find their way with maps in a huge space universe and I laughed aloud when you figured out that the navigator on board of one of those ships has a dial on his dashboard that reads the space pressure of where the ship is sitting and computes to the space pressure where one wishes to land, We have not modified that to say that the space pressure at the fett of of the Trinity is naturally zero but once outside of Paradise it begins its pressure building and would crust a ship in firth firs outer space level as it is now. I am Hortien Diapetra Sonsannortia Clayotia Dnepayotia and I welcome you later today to continue this major revelation to all who subscribe to this discussion list.

END
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Re: As the World Is Today - Revelatory Text
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2017, 08:46:36 PM »
I watch and wait as the HATE continues  to boil outside. When will there be intervention I must ask as may many here? Are we to wait till there is no Here,  Here?We are at a point where there is no truth anymore and if  Michael came here  in person he would be crucified again for what he preached. There need to be intervention on a grand scheme......... my opinion
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Re: As the World Is Today - Revelatory Text
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2017, 09:28:43 PM »
PREFACE: The beginning of this post I'm about to write will only [initially] seem irrelevant to Ron's transmission above...for this I request your patience - I am addressing something relevant to the topic at hand.  ;)  [SOLUTION-SUGGESTIONS enclosed]
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Does anyone remember the feeling-experience of the first time you realized that someone whom you absolutely adored was in-love with you?(!) Mmmm. Now, there's something quite uniquely beautiful about the feeling. Yes! For convenience, I will label it "A" (as in 'experience "A" '). However, there is a similar odd experience (perhaps its common and I don't know it) that I wish to briefly explore - experience "B", for convenience.

Now, before I lay out the brief details of "B", let me just state that "A" is a pre-requisite for "B" - but "A" and "B" may not be directly related (although, in some scenarios,  they are directly related)...so what is "B"?

"B" (experience "B") is the spontaneous sensation of "A" without the actual circumstances of "A" - plainly, speaking: you spontaneously experience a 'bout' of  that uniquely beautiful sensation toward someone as if you were in the throes of initial awareness that this target of your adoration and affection is in-love with you!

Now, I'm not at all about to discuss romantic love. It turns out, all of that preamble is just to say that sometimes when I am reading 'new revelation' (e.g. here on the forum, TMarchives, or any of the Correcting Time published works - by the likes of Byron Belitsos, Daniel Raphael, Fred Harris, Jerry Lane, etc), I get that feeling-sensation of initial awareness about something Super Wonderful of which I've already have a head knowledge! Ahhh...I'm sure you know what I mean.

You see, I already understand (head-knowledge) that The Celestials have a profound affection and interest in us - that They even seek an active, tangible, and even interactive closeness (relationship) with us. That head-knowledge is with me always; however, every so often, I feel-experience that knowledge as if I had just acquired it. Well, reading this post gave me a mild bout of that spontaneous rupture of feeling-experience of this knowledge. I tell you, it's ALWAYS  a beautiful thing!  ;D

I experienced a range of feelings and thought streams while reading this latest transmission. I realize that the content provided in Ron's transmission above is quite significant. Consider the following [rather open and frank] statements (emphases mine):

1. "You who watch the gauges of expectations are truly out of luck as Jesus never admits defeat unless he pre tastes it for himself first".

2. "Things are now so rocky on Urantia we make no predictions for anyone at this moment in time as to WHAT to expect WHEN once again".

3. "...Ron has seen to it he makes very little statements since he sees little to cheer about in the Jesus schedule to bear fruit to the eye of the beholder".

4. "I (Margul, Trinity Teacher Son) am seldom disappoint [sic] but today we see Michael hanging up his slicker since the rain of disappoitnment [sic] is even too much to stand out in all of that in spite of the protection of such a rain coat".

(5). "Twice now the Most Highs signaled we could go ahead with Jesus and his choices for Urantia, and twice now Jesus himself ask for things to be delayed or postponed."

Since any intimation of an especially imminent Advent could (as faith would hold it) come true 'this time', the believer must necessarily remain vulnerable to disappointment - and know, by faith, that each disappointment transcended provides valuable credit for the 'transcender'.  Yet, the purpose of this post is not at all related to handling disappointment.

Rather, I would call attention to the specific apparent [and significant] sources of the problem/challenge precipitating the decisions, which when executed lead to the disappointment referenced. Consider the following statements from the transmission (again, emphases mine):

(A). We pray in the Trinity to have America prepare for a solitary wedding for Trump and his new bride Kim Jung Un, are asked to make nice and let the pot stop boiling hard enought to spill over into war.

(B). We doubt there is any goodwill left in China or Japan or South Korea for North Korea but we wait to see what happens in the entire region because right now it is a tinder box of countervailing discussions on how to prevent North Korea from blowing itself up.

(C). "...the Nebadon government wails over what is happening on Urantia. Not only is North Korea behaving badly, Iran is about to blast the Americans for their lack luster rating on the Treaty banning work on their nuclear plans.

(D). We doubt the Magisterial Mission can sustain much more of this and we may signal the Magisterial Mission to proceed without its vanguard of Jesus and his Staff of profession Archangels and Evening Stars, as they flock to his side for work and work they cannot [do?] with the belligerency of Donald Trump goading Asia to face up to North Korea.

These statements (and many previous ones over the years) indicate that a group of 'actors' are putting spokes in the wheels (preventing the roll-out) of the Celestial plans - an understatement, huh? ;)

Now, if the Celestials are having such a level of challenge to implement solutions for such a broken Urantia, I can't imagine having any confidence in mortals to provide solutions to such massive problems, which we have created, maintained, reinforced, and escalated. If 'They' can't easily solve the problem of this world, then certainly mortals don't stand a chance!

Could you imagine a mortal having the audacity to make suggestions to The Celestial Team concerning how They might make some headway to initiating Their plans for this world? Such a mortal would have to 'mad' to believe it could make a suggestion...yes? Well, in that case, paint me 'mad'! ;D 'Cause I am about to make such suggestions!

Now, before you pick up stones to cast at this silly and apparently quite deluded mortal, with chants of 'Blasphemy!', consider the suggestion merely to be a request for engagement in dialogue for the purposes of education and purpose-driven interaction. Personally, I am open to two major possibilities: (1) I may win responses that may be highly educational and insightful; (2) While the suggestions may be technically worthless, they may precipitate another set of Celestial thinking on ways to approach Their problem of being unable to find an entry point into our global reality (i.e. safely making touch-down/Advent Manifestation on Urantia).

Oh, by the way, there is a third possibility (I just don't know how "major" this possibility is): SHARP reprimand! Well, nothing ventured = nothing gained. And to Whoever responds, just consider that the content below is being written with joyful, loving energy! I am having holy fun!  ;D (Well, let's hope it's not un-holy ;D )

MY SUGGESTIONS (Choose the most workable one and modify it in accordance to what is technically feasible and in alignment with spiritual laws & ethics. Alternately, chose elements of both!):

1. For all the obstructionist key leaders, provide them with the unique experience of a one-week* 'learn-n-see' Cosmic Enlightenment - this could include tours of a strategic list of Celestial spheres. For example: one/more satellite spheres of Satania's Father world (remember the detension spheres?). More importantly, and while providing such a tour, fill them in on the basics of cosmic reality - planetary organization, administration, Stakeholders (Yourselves) and Their/Your chief concerns for Urantia. On the last day/period of the tour & learn engagement, have them meet each other and instruct them on who will contact whom once they return to their temporarily comatose bodies!

2. For the same group of individuals, provide them something you have granted many living mortals: full-fleged NDE's** replete with full life reviews and radically paradigm-shifting experiences. Be sure to include at least one especially stark component of the experience that they will have in common. In this way, it is likely that they will share amongs themselves - at least allies at first, and thus realize the importance of their NDE experience.

Auxiliary Commentary: I recommend arranging the experiences of these crucially placed individuals around the same time (or at least in groups of individuals who will meet on the last 'day'); however, You (Celestial Team) would know how best to stagger or synchronize the timing, given your super Intel.
*One-week is quite arbitrary: Celestials would know the period of actual time required to accomplish the experience
**NDE: For this context I dislike the term 'Near-Death Experience' (the meaining of NDE) - I would like to substitute it with a self-styled term: 'Conscious Soul-Experience'.
** For insight into the reality and formal research on NDE's lookup Kenneth Ring's (NDE researcher) groundbreaking work at: https://www.near-death.com/science/experts/kenneth-ring.html.

CONCLUSION: The overarching point here is that perhaps the best way to prepare a planet for Celestial Intervention is to provide profound experiences that will accomplish radical paradigm shifts in all the world's greatest influencers and/or trouble-makers - who are currently the cause of the roadblocks in Your way. Ultimately, the specifics of how that is done, as suggested here, may be ignorant commentary; HOWEVER - the principal of first radically altering the paradigm of the world leaders by means enacted on many mortals already(NDE's/visions/etc) is probably a viable approach not yet considered! After all, it's a lot more discreet, and can more likely prepare the way in world conditions so that a global manifestation (Advent) can be made. How about it, Team??

All Love and Sweet GLEE!
Walt

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Re: As the World Is Today - Revelatory Text
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2017, 12:52:52 AM »
@Sue/7inOcean: Oh my word, sister! It has just occurred to me that the morosely-tuned post for which I felt an inexplicable urge to post on Christmas (Topic "Postpone The Delay" at: http://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=9610.0 ) was an intuitive foreshadowing of Ron's post here - one day later!!

Isn't it weird? Even the topic I wrote (Postpone The Delay), which I qualified as "logically moronic" contains the very words conveyed in this post to inform us of the reason for the current disappointment; and I quote, "...twice now Jesus himself ask for things to be delayed or postponed" (see section labeled "MOTHER SPIRIT -", lines 2 and 3 of Ron's transmission above)!
What a coincidence, huh??

Although I am open to having just revealed how pitifully ignorant, naive, or lacking in understanding I am - by my response (Reply #2) to Ron's transmission here, yet the more I think about it, the more I see that it's the world leaders who comprise the group of persons which keeps stealing The Team's opening to make Their Grand Entrance. Thus I must conclude that it's at least worth 'a shot' to work on them (i.e., any obstructionist world leaders) in some way to radically adjust their world view - or in this case, to extend their world view to a cosmic understanding!

What do you think, sister Sue (or anyone else with an opinion)?

Somberly (No Glee In The Moment),
Walt
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Re: As the World Is Today - Revelatory Text
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2017, 01:17:44 AM »
Dear Walt,
If you are to be painted MAD you and Ron B may be the same color! Has not he to been so bold to speak up to give his thoughts about things from a human point of view, we have been told, one point was about the benefit of having a grandfather image for mankind to look to by having a visible SON OF GOD being on Urantia with the MSM. Also because of the rebellion and Ron B we have been told that this MSM will not be like any of the ones in the past and will be the start of seeing how well this change is to be used in the future in the MSM.

I understand this is so because Urantia is a Decibel Planet and for that reason it is open to the opportunity in doing thing in ways that would not be done on other planets that have not had the rebellion.

Walt, I would like to ad to your suggestion, if it is limited to just the heads of state that are causing the problems that have the NDE it may be said they have gone MAD by their cabinet if they come back telling people about what happen and then they could be called unfit for office and be removed.

Were we not told of one setting that could be done. That the top 10 countries would be given a memo to their leaders of a invitation to a meeting in their briefing room and asking them not to be late. Has any thing like that happen yet?

Just thoughts of my madness.
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Re: As the World Is Today - Revelatory Text
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2017, 06:01:53 AM »
Hi Walt and all,

I am trying to cope with today’s temperature here at a hot, sweltering 37degrees Celsius and sitting in front of a fan after my day’s work is making me feel hotter. As I catch up on reading this thread, I admit, I can’t think well in this horrid heat.

Four hours later, it is cooling down only slightly, but at least it is better now the sun has set down the horizon, phew!!

Walt, you are very good at coming up with those suggestions and I am sure the (the Celestials) have most likely covered all this too. What is disappointing is having a man like Donald Trump who says a spade is a spade and yet doesn't know how to use it properly, particularly when good statesmanship diplomacy is necessary.

I watched Queen Elizabeth’s Christmas speech on Boxing Day (26th Dec) and was all teared up when she mentions the love Jesus so shared and that she takes his example in her life’s work. If anything, she is the last bastion of decent speeches that is a pleasure to hear from a woman who has lived and endured many decades of change. It was refreshing to hear from her than it is to hear from Donald Trump.

Anyways, I had a dream last night, but got woken up by my alarm to get up ready for work. The lasting impression I got was the last scene that is still in my memory. It was a scene where upon this hilly slope(?), it appears there was this large device with a shade-cloth that is expandable. And I perceived to know the wind is picking up as the breeze all around me was gorgeously wrapping me and I thought to commence tying up the shadecloths so they do not flap out by the wind.  Suddenly, I woke with the alarm and that was the last of the image when I woke up.

Surprisingly, I remember how I felt. There was that feeling of ‘business-as-usual’ type thing and I just had to continue in that activity, although the breeze was mildly pleasant and I welcomed it and recognise the swift wind licking up into the sails of the cloths, and around my body, through my hair and I just loved the moment I was in. :)

Why this last scene has not left me, I do not know and I do recognise it has left a lasting impression. Why I share this dream is because I feel my Adjuster nudging me to sense the meaning that it has for me and maybe for you my dear friends.

As I see it, unless I have my hand in it, I will not see the change; unless I am willing to brave the wind, I would not appreciate the change that this wind can create. In the dream, my hands were busy tying up the cloths, I was put to task to tend to what has to be kept in good order. So it is in my life and our lives as you and I live it, even now and so on as the days go by.

We will need to weather much and still keep to task, however long it may take, the joy in the moment is all worth it as life is so precious and amazing as we let it unfold as it does.

Thankyou RonB (Dnepayotia) and Michael (Hortien) for this tremendous transmission on revealing your names and so on. I have taken notes in my notebook to memorise. :) And I congratulate the Midwayers on their new post and assignment.

Thank you all and I look forward for more as you say.

Much love,
 
Sue/7inOcean
27/12/2017 9.53pm(AEDT)

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Re: As the World Is Today - Revelatory Text
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2017, 03:25:11 PM »
Brother RonHammar and sister Sue! Full gratitudes for replying...and guess what: you have plenty helped me to refine my thinking.

@RonH: I agree with you about the likelihood that (and I quote) "...if it is limited to just the heads of state that are causing the problems that have the NDE it may be said they have gone MAD by their cabinet if they come back telling people about what happen and then they could be called unfit for office and be removed."

What I am now thinking in this regard is that The Team (The Celestial Team) should further arrange that similar experiences be extended to the most senior and/or trusted members in the cabinet of these leaders. The aim would be to create a critical mass that would foster (even compel) discussion among the most senior individuals in a government, as well as a shared sense of credibility of the significance of the 'Contact'.

The initial discussions would be internal (not public) at first - AND because a component of the Contact (whether NDE, vision, or some other hybrid of Celestially engineered experience) would include notification/information or a full awareness about other world leaders having been Contact-ed, that initially internal discussion should quickly become an international discussion, albeit still non-public.

It might be noteworthy that I do not advocate leaders taking to public discourse about their more-than-ethereal experience - as a matter of fact, they could be given instructions in the Contact that the experience is not for broadcast - notwithstanding the likelihood of leaking and rumors. The point of the Contact would not be for leaders to give Celestially provided messages to the public: we wouldn't necessarily want to turn presidents (and other heads of states) into preachers...right?!   ;D

Rather, and instead, the aim is to create an opening of peace, calm, and cosmic perspective among the world's leading belligerents SO THAT The Team can finally dispense with the human roadblocks preventing them from coming. And yes - of course there is the added benefit of how much more easily and readily They will be received...Not to mention: the much lessened degree of panic among the world governments (having been prior Contact-ed and partially 'prepped') will translate into a much lessened degree of panic among the populace - since leaders can speak more calmly and reassuringly to their citizens.

Goodness, gracious - as I write and think about this matter I realize that quite a large script can be written around a strategy of maneuvering on and prepping (preparing) world leaders by providing shared and extraordinary experiences that will soften them to BOTH (a) behave themselves, and (b) be open to Celestial Intervention!

@Sue: I was quite pleasantly surprised at your impression of my suggestions; and I seem to recall that you, yourself, have had an NDE (or something similar), and thus know first hand how radically paradigm-shifting one can be. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.


- I also agree that it is quite likely that, as you put it, "the[y] (the Celestials) have most likely covered all this too". If indeed this is the case, then I'm hoping that perhaps given how so many other approaches have been at the mercy of human behavior, and have thus consistently turned out flat results, They may be open to consider a revisit of such an idea, but with a ramping up - an amplification. In that vein, I wish to advocate for this approach with the following points:


1. All unsuccessful attempts have contained a common feature: cosmically unenlightened & ignorant mortals being in positions of potential and actual great consequence (national, regional, and world leadership) - making decisions, counter-decisions, and reactions from such a pitifully narrow understanding of reality.


2. These leaders (and the world, at large) have been deprived of (and/or philosophically handicapped from arriving at) the information that You (The Team) could provide - the which, if they knew would make all the difference. They do not have a chance to 'behave' for a moment when their grasp of reality is so distorted and so truth-bare.


3. Most of these leaders (if not all) are operating NOT from a stance of iniquity (determined evil - spiritual rebellion despite clarity), so thus, the case could be made that should some convincing access to the 'facts' truth is warranted, at least sufficiently so that they can make informed decisions.


4. Contact-ing these leaders en-masse (them and their most senior/trusted associates) prevents plausible deniability - as they discuss internally among themselves.


5. Such a plan could not be that outlandish when we consider the massive Investment poured into the TM (Teaching Mission) - which boasts Celestial teaching "in several dozen cities", giving birth to "over 50,000 pages of teachings and dialogues in over one hundred locations" (see Healing a Broken World - The Grassroots Guide to a Socially Sustainable Future, Daniel Raphael with Byron Belitsos, 2013).


6. The TM plan aimed to build a global movement from the ground up; however, and whereas the aim encompassed a very wide field of impact (elevation of world culture through grassroots activation) and a long-term change, this current top-down plan initially targets a much, much narrower field of impact (the key mortal planetary movers & shakers, along with the global troublemakers - often one and the same). Also, the objective is likewise much, much more specific, and requires a much, much shorter term of action: merely long enough to create an opening of peace and relative cooperation that will allow The Team to make Their Appearance unobstructed by the concerns of mortal behavior (among the planet's mortal leaders) currently bogging Them down.


7. Moreover, this plan of initial (and measured) enlightenment, which I believe that the growing body of NDE evidence (see Reply #2) is positive indication of how powerfully and positively effective this could be, yes - this plan could serve as a helpful segue way into actual Contact with mortal governments by Emissaries of The Mission (e.g. the Melchizedeks, as planned), by providing the openness and background awareness that will make introductions (and collaborations) much smoother, much faster.


You know, sister Sue and brother RonHammar: the Urantia Book has made clear that communication with 'the departed' is forbidden, as it is written, "Those who go to the mansion worlds are not permitted to send messages back to their loved ones. It is the policy throughout the universes to forbid such communication during the period of a current dispensation." (TUB 112:3.7). And yet, even on this forum, there is the regular acceptance that such communication is currently being permitted. Unconventional, yes? How come, right? ...


...In his most recent, remarkable, and seminal work*, Byron Belitsos addresses this dichotomy, stating that he has "personally come to the conclusion that the UB's rule prohibiting ADC (after-death-communication) may have been suspended as an act of mercy during our time of planetary crisis." (emphases mine) - *see Your Evolving Soul: The Cosmic Spirituality of the Urantia Revelation [Massive amounts of kudos to you on your groundbreaking work, Byron - it's epic!].
It is in this vein that I wish to propose, to The Team, that given this "our time of planetary crisis", it would be a most wonderfully powerful and needed "act of mercy" to  furnish our ignorant, cosmically blind mortal decision makers with some degree of Cosmic Enlightenment - in a way that is undeniable and gets them sharing with each other, long enough to allow that opening for You (The Team) to Arrive!


Encouraged, Hopeful, and (even) Excited,
Walt
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Re: As the World Is Today - Revelatory Text
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2017, 04:19:19 PM »
Hi Walt,

I to have in the past wondered about what you said here,
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communication with 'the departed' is forbidden, as it is written, "Those who go to the mansion worlds are not permitted to send messages back to their loved ones. It is the policy throughout the universes to forbid such communication during the period of a current dispensation." (TUB 112:3.7)
The key thing in this statement in TUB is "a current dispensation" What dispensation are we in now? Are we not in the 6th Dispensation? When did it start, is it less that 24months old?

If this is true then there would be no problem in the contact like Ron has had with those in the past. They lived in the 4th or earlier I think and the 4th came to a end in the 1900s did it not?

If this is all true then it would be with in the universes policy to allow what you have suggested. 

I found in the FAQ #8 this:
"The Fourth Epochal Revelation came in 07 BC, the birth of Jesus,  and its effects were to cause the religion of Christianity to spread over much of the world. All of us have lived under the Jesusonian Dispensation (the 4th) until most recently as the fourth epochal dispensation and revelation.  It has only most recently been changed to  the Fifth Epochal Revelation and Dispensation, proclaimed on Urantia by Gabriel, the Chief of all angels and top administrator for Nebadon, dated January 16, 2015, when the fifth epochal dispensation and revelation was declared at noon time in the New York time zone on Urantia."


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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2017, 05:23:56 PM »
Ah Ron Hammar! You make a great point! After all, Byron is likely unaware/unaccepting of the recent, new dispensations (correct me, Byron, if I'm wrong: Afterall, I know you have a membership here! ;D ) Given your reminder-insight, we may conjecture that the policy has not been relaxed for Urantia...

...Perhaps, then, the reason for the apparently increased and increasing number of NDE reports is due to The Celestials providing the closest thing to intra-dispensation ADC (self-styled) - in other words, the closest thing to communicating with the departed from within one's current dispensation is to have reports from individuals who have had NDE's! No doubt the reason for this phenomenon, if indeed it is more prevalent than ever before, would be to impart greater cosmic awareness and enlightenment to the masses - as an "act of mercy", in "our times of planetary crisis". ...

...So, I guess your point would be that despite Them (Celestial Team) taking bold and unconventional steps (lots of NDE's to the masses) to elevate our awareness, They haven't bent any of the rules.  If this is your point, then I must concur.

Now, I am still going to hope for two things, at this point (unless further enlightened): (1) The plan I advocate is feasible and potentially very useful, and (2) The plan doesn't break any rules. And if there is a third hope in my subconscious (  ;) ), it would be that (3) Any long silence (i.e. appreciable delay in response on Their part) is because They're mulling it over!! ;D

All Love, Glee, and Gratitude,
Walt
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2017, 02:11:50 AM »
Walt and those following this thread,
Walt there is something missing in these discussions you present.
Allow me to explain something first. And to keep it brief and to the point, I do this in point form as follows:
1. You refer me to my own (OOBE) experience that I had back in 2005. Even today(28/12/2017), twelve years later, I am still coming to terms with what it is and what I have had the wonderful privilege to see, sense, hear and converse in what has been given me in those short minutes of time.  I can't go into it here in depth, as it is a personal experience relevant to me at that time as it helped me realise something so profound that it takes time to absorb what just happened. I can't explain it in words, yet it is imbedded in my awareness until later on I got some prompting by my Adjuster on some things that piqued my interest to search until I found the FER, The Urantia Book. Reading these Papers has helped me immensely, yet I am still awed by what I know and have come to see as both deep and truly amazing. I am still uncomfortable with labelling these experiences as NDEs or OOBEs as I feel it is more to do with how Spirit reaches those of us who receive such on a very personal level related to where we are at in our life. God works that way in showing something so we can grow in this spiritual understanding. I also discovered how active the Adjutant Mind Spirit is in these experiences and more. I became consciously aware of those skills of perception, intuition, understanding and on to some serious dialogue of 'many things' that was discussed in the experience I had, so much so that aeons went by and I didn't even care how long it was, only that I was finding it so intensely riveting as both intelligent and engaging. It is only when I pause to look up, the spell was broken and I came to, that woke me to in a sense of surprise shock as I realise something significant just happened to me. Again I sense, the Adjutant Mind Spirits and the Ministering Spirits heavily at work in me to deal with what I just had.
2. Having explained in the above, I feel God works in some of us in ways that is best for our growth. Ever heard of the term, "moves in mysterious ways"? What I am getting at is that these 'experiences' is all to do with our being experiential beings in time and space. We learn, we grow, we mature over time and come to understand things better than when we were say eighteen. The long life lived has granted so much more for us to cherish as we have been through so much that gathers more meaning to us as we live. Certain things makes sense to us when we learn to relate to others as they experience some life-changing moments that causes them to adjust, maybe overcome or simply accept what has been for them. To try and do this to leaders as you suggest Walt is not how God works. Rather, it has a lot to do with our walk with God and discerning His voice within as we go on living and becoming more attuned in awareness of His presence. The above experience I received, if anything, confirms that walk with Him.
3. I feel the way to go is through education and revelation. The SER to Earth will be the most instrumental tool in evangelism. Let the word of God do its job.
4. As for political leaders: the behind the scenes dialogue, word of mouth and some charming wit to gain the interest to pursue better ways in proposition for them to try. I know, a lot of this happens in governments, a lot of trial and error, some hard decisions to be made, some changes to make for better outcomes even if it means enforcing it to make it work. On the business side, you only need to look at the amazing advances some entrepreneurs are doing, such as Elon Musk, Bill Gates and so on that are making impressive strides both in technology and science.
5. The Magisterial Mission will be a wonderful Team and will introduce some amazing technology and judicial improvements and these will further the progress of evolution.
These are the main points I bring up for now and I humbly wish to rest it all with the Universal Father, with our Magisterial Sons, Serara and Monjoronson, and our Creator Son, Hortien Diapetra Sonsonnortia Clayotia as to what is best for all concerned, thank you.

Sue/7inOcean

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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2017, 10:14:49 AM »
To the point about dispensations Ron Hammar and others:

Today we live in the 6th epochal dispensation.  It began in October 2017.  It will last about 1,000 years if not slightly more.  It is THE LAST DISPENSATION EARTH WILL EVER HAVE AGAIN.

The 4th dispensation lasted over two thousand years and was modified by technical dispensations at least 1,000 times during the time it lasted on earth.

The 5th epochal dispensation lasted one year Oct to Oct 2016 to 2017.  It is so complicated to explain I will not go into it here; however, the importance to me personally is that I fused in the 5th epochal dispensation even though date-wise the event appears in 2014 under the fourth but the records show it was the 5th.  That is a spirit decision far above my reasoning and it is not important to you all at this time.  But it does illustrate we face changes to us and the Mission and personal attributions that have no time relevance whatsoever.

Finally, Ron you make me laugh with your typos.  I am the king of typos and you all know it, but let me correct one of my favorites you profoundly state.  Urantia is not a decibel planet (decibel is the volume of SOUND), but we are a DECIMAL planet, and that is a typographical nightmare to explain too as it signifies we are an experimental planet which is the point your were trying to make with that other word.

That's it for now.
Ron

MICHAEL OF NEBADON -
"Ron Hammar you are like Joe DiMaggio who spoke a language of his own and brought gales of laughter to the press when he said it was deja vu all over again, and many other witticisms.  Your retain in your own mind what you want and let the rest go and Ron Besser is similar until he has to tell somebody the right way to use words to describe situations he finds perplexing too.

"Therefore, let me also set the record straight once more with Ron.  He fused on Christmas Day in 2014.  By out dating to all of you, and he speaks correctly to it above, that was well within the old 4th epochal dispensation.  In utter fact that remains true on your calendar, but Ron correctly states that the universe records show that Ron Besser. Lemuel, and Larry G., are of record as all fusing under the very short 5th epochal dispensation.  I made sure that they were shown to have fused under the 5th, all of them, to keep them together in their ascension careers to God the Father.  Why would I do that?  Ron laughs at your gaffs and you have many of them, but the one about being a decibel planet is ironic because Urantia is one of the loudest and stupidest planets in the entire system of the current one called Satania.  You have no memory what so ever what the new system name is which is Santinena (San Teen Ah) which got bobbled into Santinitia somehow in the transmission to Ron.  He did not make the bobble I did.  We both get tired having to write down so many words and we both make slight errors in those transmissions, but you RH take great pride in what you know and will not let go of errors soon enough to keep egg from your face over them.  I agree with Ron, you are let alone to speak as you wish, but upon review you need tighten up on the facts better for your own good.  I am Michael and greet you later today from a transmission to Ron on the State of The World, from the Most High Andromadeus.  Good day."

Ron's note to readers:  Honestly, I am not sure the correct spelling is yet right for the new system name.  I think the SAN is correct and the "tinena" ending is off base somehow.  I assume it is correctly written in the new Urantia Book, but for now do not write that name in concrete in your brain.  It will be stated correctly shortly as I am sure of that too.
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2017, 01:06:50 PM »
Thank you Ron and Michael,
May I restate the first spelling given in the first post above is Santiena and I quote below:

"...the planet known as Urantia, number 606 of the existing Planetary System of Satania, henceforth to be known as Santiena (San Teen Ah), in the Constellation of Norlatiadek under the Most High, Andromadeus. Santiena is the likely replacement name for the Urantia based planetary system but it is not yet fully decided or entered into the maps as of yet. Today Urantia lives in Santiena but tomorrow in may live in Byantoptia (By An Tope Sha), and Byantoptia may actually become the fixed name for Santiena..."

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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2017, 02:09:09 PM »
@Sue: I thoroughly enjoyed what you have written in Reply #9. By and large, I agree with the points you made - as reinforced by your personal experience. Having largely accepted your wonderful insights, I had planned to engage in only light banter about this matter of Celestial Intervention...

...HOWEVER, Ron's most recent transmission (under the title "Nuclear War" at 1:11PM EST today: see: http://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=9626.0), has laid this matter to rest for me. Hence I now take my leave of further discussing this topic, and I've decided to just let the whole idea 'go' (i.e. to leave it alone).

Please accept my warmest gratitude (to you and Ron Hammar) for entertaining and bearing with me.

All Love & Gratitude,
Walt