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General Discussion / Re: UFO
« Last post by KIBET BRIAN on Today at 04:07:40 pm »
Weydevu I have seen his videos and I really don't know what to make of it. There are a host of other people  who claim to have been in different secret space programs. Most claim to have been involved in some sort of fighting with aliens.
It's unfortunate that we take with us our Waring mentality that serve no good and that is why man must make peace with God and ourselves before we attempt to colonize the furthest reaches of space.

  • Adam & Eve school
  • 6:45 am York time today "pole shift" plus Michael of Nebadon's request for study by Power Directors for future reversal and why
  • Change to earth core from lithium to ferrite (iron)... its cooled to below boiling point greatly reducing threat of explosion
  • upcoming change in Planetary Government - plus Solonia, Chief of Seraphim for Nebadon now Liaison Officer with Monjoronson
  • Seraphim temporarily removed from Urantia ...includes Guardians
  • Seraphic government later to be re-employed on Urantia for introduction of another 'epochal revelation'
  • Satania mansion worlds now closed...
  • Jesus part of Phase II of Magisterial Mission but with his own staff and offices
  • change in human status under consideration by Deity Absolute ....would allow for sustained service with Planetary Government after extensive Epochal Revelation training...
  • streaming of Lightline calls may be dropped because of constant issues
Spirit is so intertwined with humans that it goes unnoticed through outright ignorance. It has been drummed upon us that the only way to ' see and know' God is through religion confusing it with spirituality. Now as we grow we grow up we reinforce it within our psyche that we literally build walls around us and follow the ways of the flock.
It's is rare as humans on Urantia to chance upon such a tantalizing book as the Urantia Papers, let alone   have time to fully grasp what is contained therein. Now the first time I got a hold of it and scheming through it contents I was in high spirits literally, my smile stretching beyond the capacity of my lips. Without a second thought I showed it to my siblings and I was shocked to see them  have a glance and continue what they were doing. I have tried to make them read but it falls on deaf ears until I gave up on them. ( May be  they are not ready) the funny thing they tell me  is that  the wording used   in the papers makes it very difficult to read beyond the first two pages.  Im faced with the same challenge but I try regardless.
The materialization of Magisterial Missions will offer much needed change as to how people view God and religion. Perhaps a break from the constant noise of religion will offer an opportunity to make us look within for true answers. 
A well written document Ron and I pray may you be at peace.



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 Hello Dear Ron and you all Dear Sisters and Brothers and also Dear Guests of the forum here.
 This evening I , as Albert , the host of my group of subscribers, of here in MADAGASCAR, am really very glad to be with  you all through my written words here,  that, to express here my ability to come back to work, to do God's work again , since TOMORROW WEDNESDAY  05th, AUGUST; 2020; 01:30mn; P.M.; Antananarivo, afternoon time; that, to do our work of the  L.L.O.T.H.O.M.;
Yes, I have been healed enough from the hard flue that caught me, as that has been specified to be one. That is an important news that I am happy to share to all,
Now, I estimate myself being almost strong enough to continue to make running again our local Ligthline to , that, since tomorrow WEDNESDAY 05th, JULY and the next session to it: for the following, SATURDAY 8th, AUGUST; 2020; 01:30 mn.; P.M.; ANTANANARIVO afternoon time.

God is prayed; All Celestial Family Teachers  are humbly invited and should be welcomed and greatly appreciated for your Teaching.

Everybody's supporting prayers are heartfeltedly thanked.

 For my part, I am praying You GOD: " so, help me GOD, help us GOD . Amen 
. a o i "

  Thank you all reading.
  Have a  good night / day all.
The Host : Albert.

General Discussion / Re: UFO
« Last post by weydevu on Today at 01:28:40 pm »
Ron what you say to this, similar information has been on the internet for several years. I got this from

[font="Times New Roman", serif]Captain Randy Cramer claims to be an officer who has been given authorization to address the public on behalf of a covert "special section" of the United States Marine Corps. He joined guest host Jimmy Church (email) to discuss his 17-year tour of duty off-world on Mars, and his years serving aboard a secret space fleet. For those who may question his extraordinary story, Cramer pointed out that it is a felony to impersonate an officer and to lie about military duty stations. He noted the USMC has not disputed his story nor have they stopped him from speaking out publically about it as, according to Cramer, he was appointed this task by a brigadier general within the clandestine program. [/font]
[font="Times New Roman", serif]Selection for the program began before birth during a 300-subject, soldier augmentation experiment called Project Moon Shadow, Cramer continued. A team of human scientists assisted by extraterrestrial engineers genetically-engineered the participants for rigors of off-world duty, he explained. "I jokingly sometimes say that I was a Marine since I was a baby, but that is actually legally true," Cramer said. He revealed what it was like serving in the Mars Defense Force fighting aliens while boosted on a cocktail of performance-enhancing drugs. "When you're fighting you don't care... you feel pretty aggressive and you're just happy to be there stomping and killing things," he recalled. [/font]
[font="Times New Roman", serif]The main territorial conflict on Mars is with the indigenous reptoid and insectoid species, Cramer reported. He shared details of fighting in the Draconian (reptoid) invasion as well as his time piloting an Airwing aboard the intergalactic air carrier EDF SS Nautilus. Cramer estimated he has had his body replaced several dozen times because of dangerous and harsh conditions on Mars and in space. The process involves hatching a fresh clone and pumping it with the soul, which he described as a quantum fluid. After his service, he was again placed in a newly cloned body that was physically the same age as when he was deployed. [/font]
[font="Times New Roman", serif]When asked about how he knew definitively his recollections were accurate and whether he may have been part of mind control experiment that implanted false memories, Cramer suggested his thousands of hours of therapy have shown it was an authentic experience. "I feel really confident that we're talking about solid and real memories," he said. Cramer also warned about North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, who he suggested may attempt a large-scale Jim Jones-type of ending for his life.

[font="Times New Roman", serif]In the U.F.O. community talk of space defense operations of the U.S. have been ongoing for years. I've been involved with this material even before I started reading TUB[/font][font="Times New Roman", serif] and I've forgotten way more than I can tell you Sue brings a lot of memories to me in her research. I would like to hear your thoughts.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman", serif]Domtia[/font]

[font="Times New Roman", serif]Weydevu

Thank you JRL44.  I have something else on the stove too.  Maybe you are not interested, but ever since some moron burned Dr. Sadler's diary after he died, there is no real history as to how the Sadlers and the Kellogs got involved to bring us the Urantia Book. 

suddenly three days ago I had a history presented to me that is only one quarter done, and that means a total of about 40 type written pages is available if I can get to them all.

It is a very sad thing Robert to see people refuse to be educated about important history and those who read the Urantia Book with awe are so trapped with a Foundation that refuses to come clean about its inability to take charge of the revelation as it should have been presented and used by them over all these years.  They think they are doing fine, but they have failed to understand that they wrapped it in an enigma and then let it go limp in the arms of man who never knows what to read or believe in unless he is well instructed.

We have determined Robert that the entire idea of mankind on Urantia is ready for good news, but has gotten so tied up with crystallized institutions in religion, and yes, even science, we have to see to it that the Magisterial Mission to come, knocks some sense into heads that are truly incapable of thinking themselves out of the box of stagnation and conspiratorial stories.

It reminds me in some ways when Copernicus announced to the church that the earth rotated around the sun and not the sun orbiting the earth.  They threatened him with death if he did not recant his findings.  When he did not they tried to shoot him five times, and finally let him be when he fled Italy to get out of their murderous ways.  Copernicus started the scientific revolution for western civilization.  Now we must start a truth revolution for western civilization, and the sad part of it is that the very places we ask to lead us see nothing wrong to refuse to acknowledge the change that truth brings.  That truth brings a new revolution inside the Magisterial Foundation is true too and to all of you with the Magisterial Missions however they are to be presented on Urantia.

I am so sorry there is so little collusion between readers of the revelation and ourselves.  I have begged and borrowed arguments to get that to happen yet no one finds it pertinent enough to look at the very same thing you do Robert:  "Why must we fight over fortune?"  The facts and truth is fully given by God and most groups refuse to accept the invitation to come to the table and feast.  I will never understand the likes of a Urantia Foundation which still considers the ability to hear the truth through the Voice of God, as certifiable madness, yet they partake of this news through the Voice of God, daily just because they are surrounded by it and never know it.

I thank you for your kind evaluation and look forward to meeting with you later today on the Tuesday Lightline. 

Good morning Ron,

The three postings yesterday are treasure for me and  I am going to read them over and over in order 

to absorb the full content and I thank you very much.

May God bless you always.

Jean Robert

Thank you both for your kind evaluation.  It took me three days of writing and actually all three were rewritten twice and then I am still concerned that it is not enough.  But at some point I have to give up the effort as I worry to the point I do not sleep well about things like this.

Sue, one of the things I did not cover is the psychic circles.  I have mentioned several times now and it is confirmed today, there are no psychic circles to evaluate spirit progress for the human in his infancy on Urantia.  Adjusters transfer the learning we have to their own insidedness as part of themselves too, so the supreme was not the only high being that could use and evaluate the worth of our individual experiences.  But when the supreme crashed so did the idea of psychic circles go down too.  The Master Spirits look at the old way of evaluating us through psychic circles acquirement, and are generally in favor of reestablishing the criteria, but so far they see no good relevance to put them back in place.

Agondonter status, which is a morontial designation to humans when they come over now, and is not a status on Urantia now or any other inhabited human planet.  Michael has decreed that if you worked your tail off to help God on your natal planet, then when you die and come over, you will be assigned agondonter status there and then.  Most people here Sue, and I mean on this web site who read it regularly will have their agondonter status revised when they are resurrected. 

For those who do not know what agondonter status is, the label is affixed to our names because we believed in God without a representative of God being present.  No contactable rep of God exists on our planet ever since the big rebellion that started over 250,000 years ago and lasted until 1986 when it finally was adjudicated by the Uversa Supreme Court.  Uversa is the planetary capital of a superuniverse we live in called Orvonton.  Orvonton has three top rulers, the thre Ancients of Days and they were created by the Paradise Trinity to handle one tough job of administration.  There are a total of seven super time galaxies and each one is ruled by 3 Ancients of Days and it is they who are the Supreme Court judges as only they are allowed to decree life and death punishment.

Agondonter status, when it is won on one's natal planet by behavior that sees to the workings of God on that planet, is worthy of a brief look as to just what it means to be an agondonter.  Some people capitalize it, but I leave it in small letters only because we have so many capitalized words these days I just leave it as a title for any of you who love God and tried to make Him known in your community.  Unfortunately on this planet we have not had a visible representative of God for over 38,000 years.  We have forgotten, because of that, what it is like to make visible contact with such divine persons.  But that should change when the Magisterial Missions allow the re-appearance of a visible representative of God once more.

Being an agondonter when resurrected means you are placed in a set aside place on the worlds of your resurrection.  Our earth belongs to a Planetary System that has about 642 inhabited planets in it.  Of that 642 number, 86% if them are human and they all look remarkably like us.  Only when you observe humans outside of our planetary system do you get what you might call and alien looking like a thin Casper the ghost or some pointy faced ones.  Those are visitors we glimpsed usually from two Planetary Systems found in what earth calls the cluster of stars named Andromadeus.

Our Constellation leader, Andromadeus, likes the name so much he names Himself to us as Andromadeus when he speaks to us  We should recognize that this Planetary System earth belongs to having a total of 642 inhabited planets, the remaining 14 percent inhabited are Midsoniters, and they look like we humans, but have a life span of 500 earth years if they lived on Urantia.  Just realize all of these planets share one set of resurrection worlds, and they have their equivalent of being agondonters too.  All meet, if you are an agondonter, in the special sector of agondonter activities on the mansion worlds used only for this particular planetary system.

"I am delighted to share this through Ron this morning as he is ready to quit the entire charade of work if he cannot get free of his pain and suffering brought on by a big fight he had with the Creative Spirit when she insisted he  bow to her insistence to modify his life or die.  He said she was shameful for even suggesting to cut across the free will prerogatives all humans have to choose their path if possible and they fell to very serious disagreements.  That cost him his legs and his eyes and now his heart and soul.  He is an agondonter as is Sue and Wendy and Lemuel and Amethyst and all of the rest of you for sure.  What sets some of you apart though is that Ron has insisted you learn to transmit and transmit well.  That earns you more status and on the sector that houses agondonters, there is one neighborhood set aside for those who can transmit.  It is a special privilege and no one ever loses it once you are resurrected with it attending upon you personally.

"Ron will never lose that status and he never lets it go if there is a lesson to teach.  Agondonters have six different ways of becoming FINALITERS.  The Finaliter status pertains mostly to hose humans now who have proven themselves ready to fight the good fight for the appearance of a Mission Son or for the FATHER Himself before the tribunals of time.

"For that reason, you Sue and Ron in particular, will be awarded the Grand Cross of Urantia, and wear it as a privilege on Urantia sectors only when you teach on the mansion worlds what it means to be an agondonter.  You Ron look at the agondonter status as passing, but it does not now.  The Urantia Book tells that it does disappear once you become a spirit, but no more, as the agondonter experience is now a permanent part of your record and that stands mighty high among beings who are so fought over they hardly know what day it is answering questions you have about why they stay in the Local Universe instead of becoming Finaliters.

Finaliters may disappear as a status now that the supreme is dead and gone.  The Finaliter took an oath to the Paradise Trinity to serve it alone, and Ron already has sworn such and it stands on the record that he has done so.  However. the supreme looked at agondonter status as a miss-firing of Justice, and ordered all Finaliters to obey one command:  serve the supreme first.

"Ron so seriously disagreed wit that injunction he threw the supreme out of mind and reminded him that those who are indwelt with Adjusters always have their allegiance to the Paradise Father and no one dare question it.  The supteme proceeded to blind Ron there an then.

"Agondonter status also confers the ability to know the supreme once more not but to know the Master Spirit of jurisdiction over any particular group of humans who are resurrected with agondonter status.  In this case on Urantia, those who carry that status forward into the mansion worlds, they also become wards of the Most Highs.  There they become more and much is held back at this point, except to say agondonter status is now rare and it should be, but that is a story for another day too..  MICHAEL OF NEBADON. k"


Some Thoughts Muses & Meanderings / Re: Where is Sue ?
« Last post by Clency on Today at 01:59:37 am »
Mind is everywhere, and consciousness is in everything” – from an inspirational quote.
The human brain is divided in several parts, and this is where the mind operates, but is not limited to it. Effectively, we can think with any part of ourselves – with our heart, telling us what to do in any given situation, what our gut instinct says to us, what our intuition (third eye) tells us and the liver, the spleen, maybe even sexual organs are the impulses of decision making.
Thoughts are real; they’re things. Recognizing this can help us attain a better understanding of what constitutes “mind” and “consciousness.” Mind is split into three basic parts: conscious, subconscious and superconscious. We can describe the conscious mind as the state of living in the waking, physical world, which is governed by the five senses of sight, hearing, smell, touch and taste.

This world is a finite one, and it’s where most humans choose to live. The world where they can physically see, hear, smell, touch and taste is a world they can be sure of and know. But they’re missing out, big time! There’s so much more.

The real you—the “soul” you—resides in your subconscious mind. This part of the mind never sleeps. You get an inkling of that fact when you go to bed at night and dream, because you dream within the subconscious mind.

The subconscious mind is made up of four parts: emotional, lower astral, upper astral and mental. These are the inner levels of mind. Just as you have a waking conscious mind, you also have an “inner you” that’s constantly in dialogue with yourself, constantly giving you messages.” – Excerpt from an article.

In the light of what is said in this article, my question is how can a transmitter know that he/she is transmitting from his/her subconscious ? For those who want to learn or are just start learning to transmit, there should be a guide, available to all on the forum, that explain, step by step, about the composites of the brain ( the pineal and hippocampus glands) and the different functions of the mind (subconscious, conscious, superconscious), all the elements that make a transmission what it is really. Such informations would enormously help those who dearly want to receive messages from Celestials. Domtia
These three posts are just wonderful.  They explain to any layman interested in understanding the forum better, as well as the current condition of the planet and the goings on as a result of unrelenting rebellion, a perspective that is very succinct and on point.  It is unfortunate that more details are not available to us at this time, but just understanding the basics is  extremely valuable.  You wrote them very plainly and very understandably and I hope everyone, both guests and members are able to benefit from them. 
     We seem to be in a drifting pattern right now, uncertain of where all of this is taking us, but when you think about it, isn't that the way it has always been on Urantia?  
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