Dominick
Hey everybody. It's March 30th, 2025, 2:00 PM little after 2:00 PM Eastern in New York. And this is Dominick, your Sunday host. And the lines are open for most, but if there's noise, I'm going to mute you. So a couple of, you are muted, and you can always press five star to say anything. Dear Father, bless everyone listening, bless the world. Bless Ron, please give him some healing and everything that he needs and everything that all of us who care about him, feel for ourselves following him, and accept our prayers for him, our family, our friends, the world in general, and that we
keep growing in your will. Thank you. Alright. Hey Weydevu.
Weydevu
Hello.
Dominick
Let's see. So I just want to give an update, I suppose, on the, oh, and welcome, Renee. I'm glad you're here.
Renee
Thank you.
Dominick
Yeah, thank you. Uh, we just, you just missed the prayer, opening prayer, that's all.
Renee
Sorry.
Dominick
Yeah. But if you'd like to give a quick silent nod and join us in an instant, that's fine. So here we go. I'm really glad you're here, Renee. I just wanted to address something on the forum with the whole ego thing. And what do you think? I think it's a very simple kind of adjustment. Like death, death is what? It's transformation, right? Do you have all traditions?
Renee
Exactly.
Dominick
Yeah.
Renee
Yeah. Well, let me put it in a way that we understand. When we talk about this, it talks about the way that certain defects or like a negative energy need to be eliminated.
Dominick
Oh, we lost Renee, but he'll call back. He dropped from the call, so I assume he'll, figure that out and come back. But just to carry on the that point, death is transformation. I don't know what, in case he doesn't come back in a moment, the point is to talk about the death of the ego is really, it really means the transformation of the ego, elimination of the ego is well scientifically almost, or just practically impossible. It's just something that's inevitable in the human personality. It's, I think Carol was pointing it out, and some of the people posting the lessons from other transcripts, also those lessons pointed that out. And so you know, just, all talk about the scientific level, but from an evolutionary standpoint, the, the ego evolved so that the human being could survive. And so we're just evolving that with us, into more spiritual, and that's totally, you know, what the spiritual teachings teach these days is that there's not a full elimination of the ego or the death of it, or when we talk about the death, we talk about the transformation. So that, it's very simple, that way.
Does anybody have any questions before we move on? And we'll allow Renee to continue this point when he comes back.
Elise
No question.
Dominick
Okay. Thanks, Elise. but we do have, yeah, we do have one. Hey, Robert, you're unmuted. What's your question?
Robert
Oh, yes. A question just came to to my mind. Does the ego plays a role in our ascension career?
Dominick
Oh, I don't know. I mean, that's a good question. But the ego is something evolutionarily that is essential in our animal, in our experience here on earth. And I guess when we talk about, are you familiar with the Urantia book when it says, or other traditions that talk what is of spiritual value is retained
Robert
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Dominick
Right? So my guess is a lot of that ego stuff, if it's not spiritualized, simply, isn't retained, right? But person personality is constant and, and eternal. So whatever aspect of ego is, is part of the personality, I suppose that stays, but I couldn't give you a real definition of it.
Robert
Yeah. Okay.
Dominick
Yeah. Does, does that kind of help? At least,
Robert
Uh,
Dominick
Were you already expecting that kind of answer? <laugh>,
Robert
<laugh>,
Dominick
Were you, I mean, maybe I didn't add anything new. It's okay if you say, uh, that's what I thought.
Robert
Okay.
Dominick
Do you, do you have anything to add that I might have missed? What are your thoughts about it, Robert?
Robert
Oh, I think, in our ascension, when we go to transition, we leave the material body behind. I think that we do leave also, the ego behind. This is just, you know, just a thought.
Dominick
Right?
Robert
In my opinion, he doesn't play a role in our ascension. Yeah.
Dominick
And probably if it does, it's on the early Mansion worlds, because all that stuff needs to be fixed, right? <laugh>
Robert
Yes. We have to clean. Yeah. <laugh>, we have to clean up first.
Dominick
But in general, you know, I think that, well, let me go to Valerie first. Thanks, Robert. I'm gonna go to Valerie.
Robert
Okay. Dominick. Thank you.
Dominick
You're welcome. All right, Valerie. Hi.
Valerie
Thank you, Dominick. Can everybody hear me on this?
Dominick
Yeah, go on. Go ahead.
Valerie
Okay. I would like to add my opinion, which is kind of supported by the Christians because I believe the ego is self-will as opposed to the will of God, and that's why continually to surrender. And who?
Dominick
Valerie. Valerie. Valerie, sorry to interrupt, but talk a little bit slower because your voice quality isn't that great, but it's okay if you talk a little bit slower, please.
Valerie
Yes. Alright. I will. Is it better now?
Dominick
Much better, thank you.
Valerie
Okay. So what I was saying that I believe, that ego could be defined as self-will versus the of the problem. And that's why we are continually reminded or caused to remember his presence and to surrender, to hear and obey. Because what we want to follow is the will of the Father as just as did Jesus. And since he was bestowed by spirit in such a measure that he was able to overcome the flesh, he was the only one so far, and maybe some saints in the Old Testament who were able to overcome the ego and continually be in the spirit, but simply put either we're in, in our own self, which we call flesh. And that's not necessarily, only includes the body, but also our mindset and emotions which we control, or we are seeking the view of the problem, and we are fully following that.
And that's when the ego is controlled or, treated as it's supposed to be, not as our authority, but as our helper to do what we have to do, what we know is right to do. That's what I would define the ego to be. And <…>, apostle Paul, not once, he always called the Christians to submit to God. And of course, Jesus as well, just to submit to his will. And that's, I think the goal to overcome the ego and of the self-will, which is contrary to the will of God.
Dominick
And what do you think about this question, Valerie and somebody else can also answer this also, but let's say everything is done well for a while, and the ego is okay, and it's aligned with spirit. How does a human being express oneself without the ego, if that's possible. I'm trying to say that the ego, it's impossible not to come back to the ego. Even when you're spiritualized though, the transformation is that the ego is aligned with spirit. And if you're going to express yourself and fully, like Jesus was a fully integrated, self-mastered personality. And so his ego was always masterfully expressed. Everybody who loved Jesus and followed him seemed to the book, the Urantia book talks about how everybody loved a certain individual aspect of Jesus. And those things were probably highly reflective of some expression of the ego is all I have to say about that. Would you somewhat agree, Valerie, or does that help your point at all?
Valerie
I certainly agree with, um, the alignment with the Spirit, which would be equal to do the will of the Father willfully. And, the scripture also says, and that's very helpful, that the righteous which is righteousness of Christ to follow Christ or follow the Father, falls seven times and get up and go. In other words, we are not going to master on to, to align with the spirit 100%, but that's our life goal. And, uh, and so it's a daily walk. That's why it's called a daily walk. We need to pray, we need to hear Father, we need to know what he wants us to do. We need to know his nature and character. And just simply, if we are close to somebody, I mean this earthly life, then we know them much more than a syndrome. We know how they reply, we know what they'll do.
Likewise, if we are close to Father, we know his nature and cannot to, to topic, to reflect because we are the reflection of His glory. Apart from him, we are nothing. But that's the goal. And that's the hard way. That's the nugget because the masses are, going with the least resistance. And that is the ego. The ego is always ready to take over whatever is without prayer and without meditation, and without having even understanding what and why they are doing it. I mean, I'm not a judge, but usually when we take the time to draw near to God, and then, there is a good result as was, uh, the apostles for instance, were able to manifest, uh, Jesus' works. And, and so people said that scripture said that they knew that they were with him. In other words, whoever we spend the most time with, and that is in my opinion is very simple to have the ego. It's never gonna die. That is our own false personality because God created us to be like him.
So if we are not like him on any other way, like, uh, he's peaceful and he's long suffering, and we are angry and hot headed, then of course that's the ego. We know that's not God. So that's how we can easily differentiate of the spirit we are of, because the ego is not in the Holy Spirit. So I don't know. I think I said everything Dominick.
Dominick
Yeah. Thank you. I'm going to mute you again, Valerie. We've got Renee back with us. Thank you.
Valerie
Thank you.
Dominick
Okay. Yeah. All right. Renee. Welcome, welcome home,
Renee
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Dominick, I'm sorry, my call cut off.
Dominick
It's fine. We had a little bit of a discussion., Robert asked about the ego, and Valerie said something. So I don't speak for Robert. Robert, could you repeat your question for Renee?
Robert
Okay. The question was, does the ego plays a role in our Ascension career?
Renee
No. The ego is something that makes us stop right in the middle of the way. I’m just going to rephrase something that we all have read in the Urantia book.
Robert
Okay.
Renee
There are two, main characters there that failed because of the ego, you know, Lucifer, Caligastia, they had very big pride. They thought that, they were God, but God has no ego. That's the first thing that they failed to understand.
The ego. We have created it, we ourselves and ego has to be destroyed to continue with the path of ascension I don't know, uh, where I got that in our, uh, in what I was saying, but ego has to be destroyed in the first ascension war when they put us aside to, uh, clean our mistake letter of character mistakes. That's what they call them also.
And those are like pride, laziness, anger, envy, greedy, and people knowing in religion like 17. But, there are no only seven. There are, every single one of them has millions and millions of little, eyes, little defects. They need to be eliminated because the Urantia book says in one part that they need to be cleaned in order to ascend to the second ascension world.
And when we get there, also, they put that aside to continue with that process. Until we are completely clean, we cannot go and meet our, Thought Adjuster, having those egos, like a hundred percent alive. No, no. They have to be eliminated. And at this point, people on earth, they don't understand ego because they are not esoteric students.
We understand that best of the ego as the real best. When we ask our divine, daily like Christ Michael to eliminate, when we have discovered one of them in action. We have to use our self-observation sense to look inside our emotions, our thoughts, our actions to discover those things when they are acting, they are directing, they are manipulating our physical body, even though we don't know they are within us. That's the great thing that we have to do, discover ourselves, knowing ourselves. And eliminating the ego is not an empty word. It is not an intellectual No, no. When you know that you have one defect acting or taking over your personality, then when we say, oh, I’ve started knowing myself, I'm not a peaceful person because I have anger, anger makes us kill another human being, then God cannot be the creator of that defect because He is love. He doesn't create anything that goes against his nature, his creation. And it's for us to get self-knowledge and it start like, being more understanding over action, what we do, what we think, and yes, the ego is something that will stop Our nation, to be in a growing process. And, uh,
Dominick
May I say something, Renee, because while you were gone, this is Dominick, while you were gone, you know, I gave somewhat of a different answer than you have. And that's because we have different definitions of the ego. Now you may have a definition of the ego that that fits for what you're saying, but it doesn't talk about anything of the scientific understanding of psychology, of the ego. In that it's a basic aspect of personality, identity and mind. But but you're ascribing characteristics of the human character and assigning that to a word called ego. And so that's where we have, you know, Carol had a different definition, that teaching mission lesson that was provided talked about that, where once those defects that you're talking about are corrected, then the ego that I'm talking about and other people are talking about becomes a good, a tool for good expression.
Now, scientifically, I was just talking about, it's just something that evolved in the human personality. It's essential for human identity and expression. And of course, when we live in a world where there's not very good spiritual evolution and your group is approaching how to compensate for that, do you understand how there could be a, a disconnect in people's understandings when you and I are, are saying kind of different things, but we kind of mean the same thing, but it's definitions of the ego that are kind of getting in the way, I guess. That's all I have to say.
Renee.
Right. Yeah. I would say that as the scientists who are doing those concepts are not, very deeply informed in esoteric terms. They don't have the knowledge to go deep inside. They don't have the real contact with the ego. Those who are very professional in the spiritual sense know how the ego manifests because ego has different levels and levels within the psychology and the scientists don't experiment with the inner level. I would say that, you know, terms and concepts are one thing, but the reality is different. When you go and experiment yourself knowing the ego and a different level, then you, you can say, okay, this is this. And then the concept is a little bit like superficial, I would say, because barely on the surface. And it is nothing that is going deep into those levels of understanding are not, I would say up today in the scientist’s field. We are talking maybe about the same thing but in different ways. And they take it like without importance, without the import that we esoteric people do because we know that we can advance in the spiritual way when we have eliminated certain percentage of the ego.
Dominick
Yeah, here's another question. Most people think about the ego with the bad seven sins like you're talking about. But what about when someone is their own worst enemy because of their own ego telling them how bad they are all the time? A lot of us are conditioned the other way around where we limit ourselves from even doing anything because we talk so bad to ourselves.
Renee
Well, you know, I'll say that the ego gets bigger or develops more in certain kinds of, or type of persons than others, because sometimes they grow in a different environment. Also, of course, there are different ways that ego manifest for a person that goes to the church, and persons like us and person that never go to any of those places. Like they live on the street forming gangs, forming you know, all kind of groups
And they are different sizes, different ways. People justify themselves, oh, no, I don't have those defects. And as I mentioned in another post, if we should justify our defect they will grow and will grow bigger because we are giving them the energy they need to keep growing and nobody will stop them. And if we condemn them, they will hide and we will pretend that we don't have them because they are hiding. They don't want to be seen by us again, because they feel that their life is threatened because we, if we discover them, we might take action. They are very smart also as exactly as Lucifer and Caligastia did. Those are the examples of how the ego start growing. And until they don't have control over it, and they destroy themselves.
Dominick
Yeah. I think the, the comparison was, uh, self-exaltation is one way, and then the other way was self-forgetfulness.
Renee
Yeah. Yes. You know, I said, for example, pride, it has too many manifestations. We don't know that we have it until we apply the self of observation. We look very carefully within us to see how we act. And then we find out that we are acting bad. And it is a difficult thing to deal with the ego. Let me tell you, I've been working on that for 40 years. 40, and I have discovered things I thought I never had. When we apply self-observation, we find things within us that we never thought that we had. And also, we discover that we don't have those virtues that we always thought that we had it, but we need to apply the self-observation that's very important to do.
Dominick
Here's another question.
Renee
Go ahead.
Dominick
What do you think, …my own opinion is that too much positive thinking, like stress on the positive and accepting everything and talking about, I think it's the church of new thought is like that, it's like the whole aspirations and tell everybody how good they are all the time. Does that help or hinder what you're trying to do with self-mastery? I don't think it does.
Renee
No, it doesn't help Dominick because they are justifying all the time that’s what they're really are. If they applied the self-observation, they will find out, as I said before, things that they didn't think they had because they don't want to see it. They think that, you know, that being good or being clean of the ego is just a simple design. Everything is full fulfilled. No, it doesn't happen that way.
Dominick
Yeah. So how do we find the balance between that and say, like, you know, the Baptists are, you know, you're, you're a sinner and you can't help it out. You're always going to be a sinner until you're saved. How do we strike a balance between those two?
Renee
Well, there is one thing that I have found hat the balance, you're not gonna, or we are not gonna get it in the first day. What we do, or the magic rule is this; We start by looking inside what we think and analyzing what kind of thought we have. Is that it is good or bad? And then if we think that is, for example, we are criticizing somebody else, okay, and then we realize that that's not good. You know, the bickering is not something that is constructive for our life.
Okay. And then we start talking in our neighbor's back. That's another thing. For example, nobody stops us, and then the poor guy doesn't defend himself against everything we are saying and that's another thing. For example, we think that our neighbor's wife is beautiful and then we start making approaches to see what comes out it, even though you know, the 10th commandment= don't look at your brother's wife but we do it anyway. And if we check for ourselves, we find out that that's a big defect. What if we ask a deity to eliminate it? So we start getting cleaner. And if we do that, maybe we stop there and we have our neighbor as a friend forever because we didn't attempt to do harm to his family. Like that. It is a way of, you know, putting the, the balance every day, simple thing, one thing at a time.
Dominick
You remind me of quitting smoking almost. I didn't smoke for a long time, but it's very difficult to quit. And what you're describing is when you talk about becoming clean, sounds like something similar where you think it will never change. But if you keep if you keep, I guess focusing on the transformation one day, you don't recognize until it's happened already that you have transformed and you're cleaner, I guess, in your ego, right? Like those, the effects are gone, but it's a subtle change.
Renee
Yes. And I'm gonna add something to it. I did the same, like 1982, I quit smoking the same day and then I quit drinking beer the same day. That's the most terrible thing to do, but I had to do it. And let me tell you, we can miss our defect when we go into the dreaming world. We can see them over there. I met with my smoker defect. I saw him smoke there, you know, a big cigar like that, long cigar with the red eyes and the hair a little bit spiky like that. That was me. That was my energy. That was the defect that I created myself and the drinker also. So but when we are here in the awake in this world, we don't see him. We just feel their effect, their power, the strength they, they use to dominate that thing.
Dominick
We have a question from Valerie soon, but I think what about this, Renee? And then, we'll, let's go to Valerie. What we are talking about is really the way to be happy.
Renee
Okay.
Dominick
Real happiness is this transformation. Like do you agree?
Renee
Yeah. Well, yeah. I'm going to use some word to reinforce that. Okay. There is a pendulum law that we call them pendulum law. Okay? And when the pendulum goes to the left, we have pain. When the pendulum goes to the right, when it swings to the right all the way out, we are happy or we are glad for something, okay? But we cannot b, all time on the right or on the left. We have to look for the center. And the center is when we realize that the pain is caused by one ego. And also, when the pendulum goes to the right that happiness is created, or partial happiness is created by another ego, then we have to be in a center. When we discover why we are suffering, why we have pain, maybe we are sad because we don't have a lot of money.
Dominick
Well, Renee, can we get to our questions from the other people? I'm going to keep your mic open. Hey, Valerie, you were first, if you could talk, remember to talk a little bit slower.
Valerie
Yes. Thank you.
Dominick
So go ahead.
Valerie
Thank you. I don't have a question, but I would like to add to this conversation, which I believe is very important. All I would say is the most important aspect of this transformation is to understand that all is done by the spirit of the Lord, by our asking and surrendering our freedom, but the power and the dilemma coming from him. And I would like to back this up in an example of, from my life, to make it very clear I was serving in a ministry. And of course, I tried to do it well for the glory of the Father, love and kindness and, and care. And I did, and I had developed that reputation, but then one day I could not control myself. I just got tired and irritated for like two, three days in a row. I could not respond to the people who were late coming and had their excuses, any godly, just with anger and with harshness, and said, I'm sorry, we are closed in this kind of way.
And on the third day, I broke, I'm crying and said to the Lord, I said, Lord, I'm sorry I'm trying so hard, but it looks like I'm just too tired. I can't do this now. And he said to me, I did it to make you understand that apart from me, you can do nothing, which part of the nothing you don't understand. And I think this is the most important aspect of message in this topic, because that's exactly what Father wants us to do, that we would recognize who He is in us and how to let his spirit in us to rule and remain by our serious submission, is understanding that all power or authority or glory coming from him. And so therefore, he will get the glory. I hope this helps.
Renee
Yeah. Okay. I would say, yeah, okay. But to reinforce what she said, I agree that, without our Father, we don't have the chance. And all of us here in this forum, we had the, the great opportunity to, to get in contact with our Thought Adjusters. And that's a great thing. You know, people out outside are looking definitely for any sign of God, and some of them get it. We cannot deny that. But to work in that transformation it's a little bit hard when we try to use the elimination of the ego because we have to limit ourselves from doing things that the ego likes. Like drinking beer, licentious life, living, you know, the easy life either for ladies or for men. And, you know, we have to limit ourselves to too many times when we discover that if we do something, I'm sorry, somebody was calling. And, yeah, I just want to say that our life would be very impossible if we didn't have a guide, the guide of the divine Thought Adjuster.
And I just wanted to, you know, share my experience on that field. It is not something that you have to accept, just like that. No. For those people who want to find out what you really are, then you have to apply the self-observation and then find out who's acting, who's controlling your life, apart from the Thought Adjuster. Because he is behind those actions. You know, the ego always takes the first stage and that's what I can say. Go ahead, Dominick.
Dominick
Elise, sorry. All right. I was my mute. I muted myself. I thank Renee. So you didn't hear any of that Renee. Go ahead, Elise. We have Dennis with his hand raised but you're next.
Elise
Okay. Thank you. I wanted to add something to that because it's such a difficult subject and it's difficult to analyze and it's difficult to overcome.
And well, what's good and what's bad is also the question. But well, we all have good characteristics and we all have bad characteristics. And among the good is, well, there's a lot we can mention like service and, love and unity with each other or being, good to your neighbor and forgetting yourself, things like that. And, you know, and when we look at the at the bad side, like self-importance or pride or control over things, or like dominance and being very proud of yourself and finding yourself very important as Lucifer did. But well, when you call the one, the good ones, maybe the true self and you would call the bad things your false selves, then we do both. And you can only quit the bad things. You can overcome them. I think when you become aware of the difference between the good and the bad, and you have to experience that, and then when you learn that and you have experience, you are experiencing that then you can work on the good and then you can transform yourself, I think.
So the truth has to be the winner over the false self and I agree with Renee, that in life, it's like pendulum is either going left or right, so it's always shifting a little bit. But of course, you're always looking for the good side more than the bad side. And that's how you're growing. And that's why I think that the ego is also aligned or connected with spirit because I don't think you could do it otherwise. It's a learning process and we probably need it to grow our soul. And I think then when you learn more and more to listen to your guidance, to your Thought Adjuster, then the more your true selves will grow, and then the false selves will probably become less important. Well, those are my thoughts that just came up when talking about this subject, which still is very difficult. But that's all. Dominick, back to you.
Dominick
Alright, thank you, Elise. Dennis, go ahead.
Dennis
Hello, can you hear me?
Dominick
Yes, go ahead.
Dennis
Okay, my understanding of the topic of ego is that the ego is the sense of self that develops to, that acts most directly in the physical world. And as long as I'm human, I find that I have to engage with the physical world. And if it's the ego that is the, that outer orientation that interacts with the physical world, when I hear words like eliminating the ego, I find it difficult to integrate that into my understanding. Because if this is the tool that I use to engage and interact with the physical world, how do I continue to do that if I need to eliminate it? So that's one point for me that has been difficult to integrate into my understanding. However, because we know that we have a deeper sense of self that we are taught is limitless, then I find that the work becomes, it. It's not so much to eliminate the ego, but to turn this outer orientation, to polish it and make it more and more like the inner limitless self that we are taught that we have. And looking at it in this light makes it, at least for me, frames it in a way that I can understand. And from this perspective, I see that that work of polishing the outer self to become more and more like the inner self.
How do I put it? It's, like,, it's almost endless. Because if we know that our true self is limitless and our human self is finite, is limited, then we can only continue to make our outer self, like Renee used the word cleaner. This work of cleaning, you polish the outer self more and more, to make it more like the inner self, and if the inner self is really limitless, then this work of polishing yourself and making yourself more and more like the inner self goes on up to the point where that work, kind of reaches a point where you can't really do anymore because you reach of the limits of your humanness. I think that there's some relationship between this and what we are taught as fusion, but I'm still not sure it's just how I've been thinking about this. But I think framing it in this way, at least for me, gives me a picture that I can hold in my mind and walk around. I don't know if that helps.
Dominick
Yeah, you touched on a, on a big point, I suppose, in that probably some of our ego perfection is related to the what, the seven circles. And because there's two different, kind of approaches, right? To our personality, perfection while we're here.
So, thank you, Dennis. I'm going to get to Valerie, who has got her hand raised. Any closing? Thanks. Did I interrupt anything? Did you have anything else to say?
Dennis
No, I think that that was it.
Dominick
Okay. Well, thank you, Dennis. Go ahead, Valerie. And we're almost at the hour, so if you could, you know, make it a minute or so. Go ahead.
Valerie
Yes. Thank you. Thank you. I finished with this for, on my part, but there is a way to, to evaluate what spirit we have in so to speak, because the ego is always self-serving. The spirit of God in us is always serving others, pulling others first, as Jesus said, love your neighbor as you love yourself. So he never said, love yourself first, and then give your neighbor, he said, give to them even if you don't have left. So, therefore, there was a clear, may I say, listing of the qualities by Apostle Paul. And we can draw the same conclusion if we observe ourself and see what our motivations are in any event. And so when we serve others, then we show love. We have peace, joy, patience, self-control, kindness, faithfulness, and gentleness.
In other words, we really strive not to be controlling, not to hurt other feelings, but just show the love of God in a transformative way. And it really works. I have seen it really doing miracles and the self-service. This is from all. I hope that none of that is true for me anymore. But it says violence, revealing, emulation, loss, witchcraft, hatred, dread, lies, greed, darkness. So all those things that are not helping anyone but me and I, think that that's the ego. And so if we just take a step back when we say something or do something, if I do, I immediately know that I fell short on the glory of God. If Ifor instance, he says to me, to my heart, give him money, and I decide not to do that, I may just go one step and immediately know that I was wrong. So, I would say that's the easiest way to know when we are in the right spirit. And if we are not, then we say Father, deliver me of this. And He will. That's all I wanted to say. Thank you.
Dominick
All right. Thank you, Valerie. And so yes, I think we've learned a lot from each other, and we certainly have a lot to think about, but not too much to feel bad about. Next week will be a different type of lightline. I've asked a guest to come speak to us about some of his mission work that he's set it to do, and more details will be forthcoming. But we will have a… I've invited a guest to present to us a little bit next week. His name is Halbert Katzen, and he is someone who is donating his work to the foundation's library.
So I asked him to come speak, so it'll be appropriate if you, if you want to see some of his work, you can go to you can search UB the news, but his website is ubannotated.com, Halbert Katzen, and he is retired from his day job and going back to the college campuses. And I asked him to speak about some of that and how we can maybe support him in that type of outreach in general. So that'll be a different thing to do. And, and thank you all for joining us this week.
And let's see Renee, are you there? Renee!
Renee
Yeah.
Dominick
Yeah, thank you for presenting so much to us today. Could you please say a closing prayer for us and we'll close it out?
Renee
Yes, Dominick, I thank you for that. And I also I thank our divine Universal Father Christ Michael, our, Thought Adjusters, everybody here in this forum listening today, I want to direct to them my thanks for being all together and for being in this mission, serving the Father. That's the most important thing for any human being to understand in our short life, is the initial step in our ascension. And I thank all those Deities who are providing this day. Thank you everybody. Thank you, Dominick. And we'll be there next Sunday. Listen to your guest. Thank you everybody.
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