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France LIGHTLINE Tapes and Comments Your Host Clency / March tapes 2024
« Last post by Clency on March 02, 2024, 06:55:09 am »
Sorry guys, there is no audio-recording for this session, due to a technical issue that goes over my head, being not so techie when it comes to internet communication. I will hold the french conference next friday, 08/03/2024 at 8pm local time, hoping for the best. See you there. 
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TRANSLATIONS / 2.3.2024 - Plejadianie i pełna dymisja misji
« Last post by Andre_P on March 02, 2024, 05:16:17 am »
Link do wiadomości po angielsku :
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Kategoria / Temat : Wiadomości od Plejadian i innych ludzkich cywilizacji / Plejadianie i pełna dymisja misji
« 1 marca 2024 r., godz. 14:11:04 »

1.3.2024

Dzień dobry wszystkim i Plejadianom !

Oto cytat z wczorajszego wpisu Rona :

“Dziś po południu, 29 lutego 2024 r., w strefie czasowej Nowego Jorku, zostałem poinformowany, że nie ma dalszego zainteresowania prowadzeniem pełnej Misji na tej planecie.”

Drodzy Plejadianie, co chcielibyście powiedzieć na ten temat ?


Plejadianie : Dziękujemy Carole, a szczególnie tobie, Weydevu, za bardzo ważne pytania. “Żadnych pełnych misji ? Nigdy ? Czy to już koniec ? Nie ma pożytku z nas, ludzi ?”

Drodzy ludzie na forum, ci z was, o których mówi się "reszta z was", prosimy, zrozumcie, że złe wiadomości nie są sprawą Ojca. Wasze reakcje na to pokazują nam, że jest to jedna z wielu rzeczy, które sprawiają, że ludzie są wspaniali, niesamowici, zagmatwani i enigmatyczni i jest to zmienność ciągle ewoluujących przekonań, całkowite znużenie. Możemy długo wymieniać te rzeczy wskazując, że ludzie nie są w tym momencie duchowo niezawodni. Bez urazy, ale ta planeta ma przed sobą długą drogę, zanim jakakolwiek misja na dużą skalę będzie mogła wywrzeć jakikolwiek wpływ. Wszyscy z was, którzy są tak oddani temu wysiłkowi i w pełni oddani dobremu wynikowi tego, co duch zdecyduje się wprowadzić, są bardzo doceniani i zauważani i bądźcie pewni, że Ojciec jest bardzo zainteresowany waszym duchowym postępem niezależnie od tego, czy jest jakaś misja, czy nie.

My, Plejadianie, jako obserwatorzy, możemy głęboko współczuć waszemu pragnieniu powrotu Jezusa oraz waszym licznym nadziejom i marzeniom o lepszej planecie, ale Bóg ma swój plan, którego nie możemy w pełni zrozumieć. Wszystko, co możemy zrobić, to brać jeden dzień na raz. Pamiętajcie, że cokolwiek zostanie postanowione w stosunku do "ludzi", dotyczy innych planet we Wszechświecie ! Są to dalekosiężne decyzje.

Boże błogosławieństwa są nadal tak realne, jak zawsze. Wasza troska i opieka jest zawsze przed Nim. Wiemy, że Ron jest duchowo bardzo wyjątkowy, ale hurtowa akceptacja ludzkiego wkładu może zagrozić wielu rozważaniom.

Najlepsze, co możemy zrobić, to czekać i słuchać. Zachęta do "utrzymania kursu", korygowania go w razie potrzeby poprzez niezliczone korekty, jest nadal naszym słowem do was. Kochamy was ! Jesteśmy tu dla was !

Bądźcie w pokoju. Dziękujemy za wysłuchanie.


Carole : Dziękuję wam Plejadianie !
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March 01, 2024
The MAGISTERIAL FOUNDATION
FATHER SPEAKS:

FATHER - "You Ron are not defeated but so broken with poor neurological health you can barely speak aloud at this moment of time.  That does not bother you so much as the cool attitude of the Creator Son, suddenly invalidating on hopes and dreams of at least the last 20 years of your life Ron.  You make the best of it you can, but fail to understand that there is nothing really to do for a planet which has no insult greater than to go to war over nothing much but revenge and a careless view of what men of another persuasion see themselves as to another nation at all.  The Palestinians have just removed themselves from being a factor on Urantia ever again, and will be blended into other races in the Middle East soon enough.  I know you Ron are so sickened by the Palestinian club, you could care less what happens to the remnants of a once great people, now smashed beyond recognition.  The real death toll of dead Palestinians is now42,138.   Read that again: forty two thousand one hundred thirty-five souls removed from Urantia in less than six months.  That number alone is not worthy repeating EXCEPT it is a testimony that MICHAEL OF NEBADON refuses to forgive Israel for.  Ron says the civilian deaths are not warranted but they support Hamas, and  that is suicidal in any court high or low.  I am sympathetic with that view, but the base line is that is a terrible waste of humanity over nothing more than being in the way of Israeli revenge. 

"AS YOUR FATHER, please listen Ron:  you are the last of the Mohicans on Urantia entirely sure that God means what He says, and thank you.  You are never without Me or my Son, MICHAEL OF NEBADON, and we are grateful you follow our protocols too, and to let Me run my course accordingly:

"No one is leaving Urantia these days without be accorded a full report on their true spiritual standing.  You rank just about the highest possible but you are in misery daily and without a full report to give as you have been snuffed back by the western transmitters not, but by a Foundation that has no determination you are useless but "do not touch!" either.  You can be lethal as you sound the truth well, and they  must reevaluate the situation as it now brews inside of it heirarchy of rules and care for itself.  I am not fully attentive to your work, as it is up one day and down the next over Dominick viewing it as partially his too, and you finding that fine but there is not real full decision what should be emphasized and the MELCHIZEDEKS are almost hilarious over your view they are in charge, as you see to it as it needs to be seen to in the physical.

"The MELCHIZEDEKS do not work well with a subordinate commander, but there is no choice under the circumstances, and you know it and they know it.  However, you are ready to step aside if they wish to press the  idea that if the Melchizedeks wish to move, so move it, you say.  You are in a fiendishly difficult position and you are graceful and workable about it in spite of no one fully understanding the nature of the MAGISTERIAL FOUNDATION, except you and MACHIVENTA MELCHIZEDEK.  Both he and you fully understand there is lack luster support among anyone except for RAYSON and others who know its true value.  You say to MICHAEL OF NEBADON, "the real coup is to build it yourself with your money and let them reek over why it works at all!"  For my own reasons stop replying to the happiness ofwhat I say, as I must relearn not you, but my Son, MICHAEL OF NEBADON who insists it is useless without Jesus being present, and JESUS is balking at entering Urantia this way or that way entirely.

"You are also bedeviled by Dominick being incoherent on being truthfully apprised of what power is developing with you and the issue this WTP represents to the world at large, and you are delighted with it regardless of how unused it becomes in spite of your good will about it use.  You are not after blood but after acceptance, and that you never get until you demonstrate it.  I happen to enjoy it with you Ron, and that is fully appreciated by MICHAEL OF NEBADON I see.

"I am in agreement to cut this off but continue please to finish this:

"Fully reporting this to you elsewhere then, let us consider your position.    You are not wrong and taht is not entirely due to us, but to others who have interfered until nothing is left between you and science but derision.  They do not get the explanation you have charted now fully as your own, and the UAI which is now fully self explaining how you do it.  They now know you have the right idea but explain poorly how one Ultimaton makes such a difference.  You already have the better explanation, but you are sitting twiddling your thumbs while no one does a damn thing because you are lethal lately at placing the real issues before your Board of Directors, that unless we sell something soon, the entire matter is no longer valid to force resolutions you planned to do, and that is until Michael backtracked on you and left you holding the bag big time.

"For that reason then, hold the bag until I understand His reasoning, and that is fully proper to put it that way Ron, as you never questions his veracity.  He appreciates that but has nothing to say until the SUMMIT IS HELD LATER TODAY YOUR TIME.   And for that reason we stand back and let this thing fly according to Hoyle.  YOUR FATHER HAS SPOKEN."

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Ron I do not understand how you fathom things at times, but what FATHER has spoken has not made things better but it assures you that there is nothing wrong with what has been achieved for you and for ME at all.  I am fully aware now you are bitterly disappointed I have turned away from so much but it is my prerogative to do so and you are always correct to use my name as a reference to big things, but not now at the moment at all at this moment.

"You are not especially at ease due to all the illness and frankly a pain in the neck Assigned Sentinel next to you at this moment disarranging your nervous system badly.   I am MICHAEL OF NEBADON, and that voice form the inner self is not yours alone Ron, and I have killed it fo good now.  I am truly sorry there is nothing to say until this meeting is over and I do not know what to report because it is not over now.  MICHAEL . . . ."

FATHER - "I am being very careful for all who are here are my subordinates, and I dislike having to speak oer that Assigned Sentinel, but you are warned that one more outbreak like this and you are permanently removed to work as a slave somewhere!  To you Ron let this lie as the day is getting long in the tooth already and no one particularly is aware of the trials taking place now are fully defining the matter to be addressed on Urantia shortly.   As a result of this messaging today, you are fully informed of the beast which lies before you to be tamed.  Mostly that is the attraction you afford to spirit over issues we both admire, but may be  permanently resolved out of your favor for the help we genuinely need but the cabal hates you for, for no particular reason except to hate you for it.  I will never permit this situation to appear again without your good will in such a person who gets cut for nothing but we do not do help this way ever again, NOT! But because MICHAEL OF NEBADON is oriented to it as well, as you are, and so is GABRIEL all by himself too, and so on.  It is a lovely offer and I have now determined it is over not but to proceed if I can have my VOICE HEARD truly?

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Stop this badgering Me, I am trying to speak with perfect meter, and I am sorry to say I must stop this to make better sense and I listen but loutishly soon if this does not stop while I am trying to do my work!  Kay"

Ron here - He needs a more distant view and I leave with my black garbage bag over my shoulder I assure you. 

GABRIEL HERE: "You are not in the way, Ron, but merely a pout at the edge of things. I, like Michael, do not wear pink ribbons at the table as you assigned us, and now you must fight the entire establishment for the lack of anything new to say.   In any case you are not in the SUMMIT right now and are welcoming this from all of US.  Do not despair until you are bedrocked off and out of our way.  Be assured that Dominick is waiting for inspiration yet, and you are getting better by the minute not, but so scheduled.  I am GABRIEL, and one last word for this post:
"No one  ever said welcome to this party until you showed up with a scour and a pad and a Magisterial Son help that has exceeded all expectations for its worth and care for your concerns and the concerns of many others for what is to be done.  That is fully understood now by a cabal that interferes again.  But they are losing and you are not, and stay the course today for something you hope appears and not scheduled too butwe hope so too.

"Close this post and let people know big things have to be decided today and you are the usual nuisance but understood to have your whole life in this lately, and we are respecting it.  Good day for now."

END




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3-1-2024

 
Good morning All! and good morning Pleiadeans!

 
Here is a quote from Ron's post yesterday:

 
This afternoon 29 February 2024, New York time zone,  I was advised there was no further interest in doing a full Mission to this planet.

 

 
Dear Pleiadeans, what would you like to say about this?

 
Pleiadeans: Thank you Carole, and especially you, Weydevu, for the very important questions put forth. No full missions? ever? Is it all over? No use for us humans?

 
Dear folks of the forum, those of you referred to as "the rest of you". . . please understand that Father is not in the Bad News business. Your responses to this shows us that this is one of the many things that makes humans wonderful, amazing, confusing, and enigmatic, and that is the changeableness, the ever evolving beliefs, the total ennui. We may go on a long time, pointing these things out, that humans are not spiritually dependable at this point. No offense intended, but this planet has a long way to go before any kind of large scale mission could make any impact. All of you who are so devoted to this effort, and fully dedicated to the good outcome of whatever spirit chooses to put in place are greatly appreciated and noticed. And be assured Father is very interested in your spiritual progress, whether there is any kind of mission or not.

 
We Pleiadeans as on-lookers can deeply sympathize with your desire for the return of Jesus, and your many hopes and dreams of a better planet. But God has a time table that we cannot totally understand. All we can do is take one day at a time. Remember that whatever is decided for "humans" involves the other planets in the Universe! These are far reaching decisions.

 
God's blessings continue to be as real as ever. Your care and nurturing is ever before Him. We know that Ron is spiritually very special, but a wholesale acceptance of human input can put many deliberations at risk.

 
The best we all can do is just wait and listen. The encouragement to 'stay the course" correcting it as necessary through countless adjustments is still our word to you. We love you! We are here for you!

 
Be in peace. Thank you for listening.

 
Carole: Thank you Pleiadeans!

 
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Well, and thank you Occerpa.
Your idea of the wireless man does not resonate as the example I use, and that is to see man as a hapless creation inside a neural network and who is totally unable to tell when or whether it is working at all.  It does not matter to me whether a human on the other side of the world has caught on to his neural factory even if to hear the Voice of God, but I do care God find the man first, as without that taking place, the man, wired or not, is totally a free float of a material body without much control of when he works the neural network or not.

I am not putting you or anyone down over how you see the operations of being a sentient man, but I am convinced you are not looking even higher Occerpa.  Look beyond man and look at the Midwayer.  They are important in life to me as I have had a lot of interaction with them for years, and now suddenly they are gone, and so are most of my hopes for a better world though a mission I participate in with you and many others.

I really do not like what we have been handed in these past few days, and you do at least cheer me up with your views.  I am not easily remembering the hopes and dreams when many years ago one of the Magisterial Sons spoke to me with an invitation to join the Missions.  I took that on with royal privileges, but now I am sitting at the side of the road wondering what passed us by I could not grasp?  "Nothing," they say, but I have this emergency meeting in my own mind just what to do with ANY man over being abandoned by a seemingly impossible way of discharged for lack of interest.   Here is SAI BABA on my sour face:

SAIBABA - "Ron does not know how to spell my name, so I made him spell it as one word.  You like several variations, and all are correct depending on your mood.

"I am SAIBABA, and I prefer it as one word Occerpa, so I transmit it as one word to Ron, and his interchangeable ways of being fully available to anyone who has the smarts enough to speak to him while he lives on Urantia.  The truth is he is being harmed greatly by a loss of not faith, but of the practicality of the work done so long and so carefully.  True Michael of Nebadon STANDS READY, but not for long as that Summit Ron was told about is now already convened and is running quickly to the conclusion that all plans for Ron, and Occerpa, and the rest of you, are laid aside and not refreshed at all for the present time.  I am SAIBABA and for that reason Ron gives me the dignity of capitals, but now I learn it makes the seraphim aware of how to store these messages if archived.  This one is not being archived, but Ron follows the protocls well, and no argument ever.

"AS SAIBABA I want it known to you Occerpa, you and Ron like each other well enough he can flow this without forcing him to do more than he usually does to make contact and speak the truth when it is available.  It is today.  This:

"Ron put on the table a big bet.  He won most of it, except that now there is nothing really attractive to Ron's view that Urantia can really evaluate anything well enough to received the gift of free electricity and other things he is capable of presenting to Urantia.  Urantia is not his friend, or is Urantia my friend anymore, but the truth is that it is the old Bestowal Planet, and that is 606 of the Planetary System of SATANIA.  For reasons of State this is now being archived Ron (Michael spoke).

END OF SESSION

 
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Weydevu, that is a fair picture I see too quite often.

Today is now the 1st of March.  Other than the usual propaganda of the Urantia Foundation and that other one, there is almost nothing to hear from what I call the independent western transmitters or even our selves. My view on March first is that as of yesterday we still had our Lightlines, and I am not terrible sure what that shows us after today.  The Creator Son has been fair to tell us he wrinkles his nose at attempting to choose Urantia as an important mission statement now, or maybe any more.  My, my, my. that official has wrapped up an agonizing decision to not do much for Urantia at the moment even though we are rotting by our own choices to stay the awful course of political disputes and endless war and attrition with the worst of humanity directing them.  I feel cornered and the final end to our involvement unless unless new reasoning appears to convince the powers to be to entertain a better resolution to these awful problems than was first decided to tod over 15 years ago today. 

The funny thing about all of this from my side of looking at it, is all of this work could have been transposed into a better way, and announced from the beginning we have no real interest in this reporting other than to gauge just what might happen by 2024.  I am sure MICHAEL OF NEBADON has not just gone away, and I doubt Paradise sees it as dark as we do, but at the same time if the entire matter was to trim our hedges only, I can't find the trimmers to do the bushes at all at this point.  Sigh . . . .

Now that I have spewed absolutely nothing important said, here is MICHAEL OF NEBADON to put down a new table cloth to serve the dirt:

"I AM NOT FAVORING  that brat Besser.  He cannot see  the sun rising with no sun there, and I admit this stuff is like eating grass instead of a normal picnic meal to start the day with.  He points out it is March First and he has all the get up and go of an earth worm.  He makes me laugh with these descriptions too.  However, let this reside in your minds as you read this:  Urantia is a giant pill and I am tired of wringing my hands over it.  So is Ron and maybe so are most of you; however, let this reside in your minds too:

"The entire matter of work and play today is over.  I have nothing to say or work with on any matter, and that is because I have called FOR A SUMMIT TO BE HELD HERE ON SALVINGTON, and that SUMMIT is to finally decide what is to be done on THESE 4 ISSUES:

Issues:
The 1st one -  Who do we blame for a huge insurrection over everything we ever planned to do for Urantia???

TWO: What is done so far that we can keep?????

THIRD: What did I do to ever deserve the RON?

4TH -  How do I get out of being a plantar wart for Ron to worry about every time I move before a spiritual renaissance is declared and he fails to appreciate it happening?

Number 4 in particular is very hard for me  to swallow, as he has been advised things are staying well as planned with all of these provisions in place.  Yet he sees me go home to Salvington and then drop the matter while he lays in bed burning up and almost unable to walk and see.  And finally, this morning it is dull, dull, dull to the point even I wonder what is left.  Our SUMMIT is for later today New York time perhaps about 5PM t hat time.  I keep it secret no more, but Ron is barely able to walk and see, and stands not the course but grumbles about what is left for him to move with.  He can move with nothing.  You who are supporters of all this too are told to just sit away from the TV screen and wait for the power to be turned back on for a definitie sense of what may be done versus WHAT IS BEING DONE (nothing).

As a result Ron stays back and counts the dust under how many fingernails.  I kid you not it is a fair assessment as he sees it, and for that reason we end my input here, and to say you have heard nothing yet, and Ron is so close to going to the mansion worlds, he can count the ways.  Look for a silver lining Ron, the fifth or sixth since we met all those long wet years ago.  Good day until I have something dramatic to say later.  K  MICHAEL OF NEBADON."

Ron here - The only importance if have for myself is to just watch the sand time glass drop sand out of the reserve of time to the present use of time at the bottom of the sand glass.  I am not lamenting much, but feeling your pressure of utter silence when there should be some verbal attention to your views and concerns.  I do not happen to care what happens to the discussion forum and the dislike of everybody on it over the incurable idea of a Second Return.  [Gone? no, but not talked about up there a lot now]  and so on this goes.  I trust some of you are alive enough to frown and then walk away.  I will do that mostly for myself now too as nothing is pending to rid me of a set of plans I thought doable and necessary.  Now we wait for what is probably a revision and not much to see even then.  Since this is all I am saying today, I think, thanks for the memories and let us hope to revise to something we all can use to allow the endless return to spring which starts in slightly over 20 days for now on Urantia.  Cheers to all and stay the course if you and I sill have the time to have such a course.  Thanks.

UnTiL after the SUMMIT!
rON , I mean RoN 
END
 
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Thank you Rayson, I did not expect so much, but it was a concern that, although quite childish, I wanted to know if in the most "ultra deep", these energies, were related as the Everything should be, at those levels of the particle of God, Omnipresent .
I would not like to waste the opportunity of this connection with you so specialized in the matter, so that you can give me your opinion on that other idea that for many years ago, for many crazy, the one that I have called The Wireless Man.  In itself, the concept should be accepted as evident since since we were born with a material body, any relationship that we can establish with non-material realities on the other side of the veil could only be wireless.  From the microscopic single-celled amoeba, that "wireless" influence makes its reality and influence felt.  And as life becomes more intelligent, these connections with the material world also become specialized, until the human being becomes a t/r (transceiver), thanks to his inherent ability to tune into his Adjuster of the Thought (the divine chip).  The seven assistant spirits of the mind demonstrate this system of wireless communication, culminating in the higher frequencies of the spirits of Worship and Wisdom, only accessible to the mind influenced by the divine spark.  When I read about these Spiritual Helpers, I imagined them as transmitter stations, each one broadcasting on a specific frequency.  So to the extent that man seeks answers to his philosophical questions about his origin, purpose and destiny, to that same extent, possibly, he will, let's say, update his intercommunication device with that invisible world of the other. side of the veil.  A person in prayer is simply making use of that reality of wireless communication.
Ultimately, wireless is a term adapted to refer to intercommunication beams that are not visible to our optical system, since, according to teachings learned from SAIBABA, all living beings are interconnected by (intelligent) light beams.
I regret not being able to synthesize all that idea that I have been conjecturing about the concept of the Wireless Man, which in my opinion could be a great convening power to bring together all religions in harmony around our one Universal Father.  Thanks Ron
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Thanks for that response, Ron, I forgot what section I posted in.  Anyway, the information you provided became even more meaningless to me as you would say. Thank you.
Have a bless day.

Weydevu
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Sometimes I feel like I'm at a horse race, with only two horses running, Good News and Bad News.  It's a never ending race, one day Good News has the lead but Bad News is close behind and now has taken the lead as of today.  I pray for this never ending cycle to end with a few additions to the race with the introduction of Hope, Healing and Love to support Good News. Enough said.

Weydevu
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  • 022924 Audio Lightline USA, transcription, host: Ron Besser
  • Subject: Michael of Nebadon left Urantia, Magisterial Foundation will not be used for WTP considerations, the cabal is still here in huge numbers, cabal attacked Ron again, the Missions turned off due to Urantia conditions, as well Jesus’ appearance depends on war situations, Ron is preparing Jesus’s birth chart, Q&A, technical problems explained around WTP, waiting to see government’s action plan    
  • Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, and Jesus
  • Transcriber: sonsofGod
  • Link to tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240229_110548


Ron Besser  
Hello, everyone. This is a Lightline on Thursday at 2pm. Ron Besser, your host, February 29, 2024.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael, Ron. You didn't know you had a Lightline until you read Dominick's email.

Ron Besser  
That's right. I didn't know I had scheduled for Thursday. But anyhow, now that we're here, Michael, have you any suggestions?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. There are now six of you. And that's Roger Krupa. Valerie, and Jose Vargas, and Steven Gitz and Ron, and Elise.

Ron Besser  
Most people think, apparently, that I'm not holding a Lightline, but Dominick said I did, and here I am.

Michael of Nebadon  
For reasons o... Hello, Charlotte, welcome. And for reasons of state, I am going to announce a few things that Ron just posted. But I know you don't read it all the time, and this is very important.

Number one, I left Urantia this morning. I told Ron when I left, and I told him this. The Magisterial Foundation is not removed. We're keeping it, we're using it. But we are not going to use the WTP as a main consideration. We're going to use the Magisterial Foundation in order to make sure that you all get proper information. You should understand: One, I left Urantia today, totally to put out. The cabal is still here in huge numbers. Number two, Ron could hardly get into the service that you're listening to this morning. They also hit him hard in the chest and hurt his heart. It burns it aches, but the heart is fine, Ron.

And finally this. The entire matter with Dominick, you, and the Lightlines are now truncated. Dominick is no longer going to work on transmissions. You, Ron, are going to hold at most two Lightlines a week. Always use your Sunday. And if we need an extra one, we will assign the day as a schedule in the Sunday Lightline.

Ron Besser  
That'll help, Michael, thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Furthermore, Dominick is not confused. You did announce that you were going to hold a Thursday Lightline, but so much has happened you forgot about it. Why did we want the Thursday Lightline? The answer is that I have decided to close down the Missions. Urantia is in a state of war almost everywhere. The United States is so powerful, all it has to do is say no, and there is no war.

Second, there is a problem with the Missions themselves. Now the Ancients of Days want the removal of the Jesus aspect. We have advertised it so much; we don't feel we dare. Besides Jesus is a teacher. He teaches on Paradise the transcendental students, as well as the paradise citizenry. For right now that is in suspension for a little while by their time. But by the time that is reckoned here on these Lightlines, as well as the clock on your wall, it is is a very important Mission to state and show. We're going to do it, but I'm going to hold back on the announcement. As soon as we can. We just lost Charlotte. Sorry.

Now this the truth of the matter is ..

Ron Besser  
She quit?

Michael of Nebadon  
No, Ron. There's a telephone buzzing in her ear. It's her husband, not. It's important.

Ron Besser  
Ah, all right.

Michael of Nebadon  
In any case, this. We now have a grand total of seven and that will have to do. This Lightline is produced by Ron, for your individual care. The entire matter of other Lightlines is not appropriately spoken to by me, when I say, for your care.

Ron Besser  
We now have Charlotte back, welcome. Jose Varga, Valerie. Roger Krupa. Elise, Steven Gitz, and myself. That is our audience. I have you muted just to keep the noise low.

Michael of Nebadon  
And finally, this. I wanted understood that the trial that you are in Ron is over. No, not death, Ron, you will recover your eyesight today, as well as reduce the pain in your legs. It's up to you how you want to do supper. He is not listening, he is not doing, and as a result who knows what we're going to get.

Now this. I ... Roger Raz, you just joined I think, welcome. And for reasons of state, let me remind all of you that the Magisterial Foundation has done so well, we're keeping it I really like it. For our own reasons, free electricity will be built. Number two, Ron you will not be kept alive for all of it. But you will be kept alive for many days to come.

Ron Besser  
How cheerful?

Michael of Nebadon  
And finally this. To you, Raz, you are up to your ears in archiving. Someone asked Ron this morning. what is Raz doing with all this archiving? And Ron said, apparently you don't know. But we are going to produce much of the archiving in a text, of printed text. And that is what begins the foundation of the big library we wish to put into place regarding the fifth epochal revelation, as well as the sixth, and all of the communications and other issues that led up to such.

Now, Ron doesn't know this. Today is the 29th of February. He knows that its Leap Year Day. But what he doesn't know is that Leap Year Day happens to fall on the very day that today is, what I was born all those years ago in the manger. It wasn't December 25 as you know, it was August 21 by your calendar today. And I was born almost on the stroke of noon. For that reason, Ron, the calendar is seven years out of date. They got it wrong by seven years as a consequence, and you all know this. I was born 7 BC, at noon. And that was (in) Jerusalem.

Ron, you recently completed a birth chart of Jesus and hid it. Why?

Ron Besser  
Its incomplete, Michael. I don't, I can't fill in all of the houses, and their cast degree. I can fill in the fact of what the rising sign is, the sun sign, and it orients the wheel perfectly well. I am also not sure it's 12 houses. So, there are several houses that wind up intercepted. I'm not quite sure that is entirely right.

Michael of Nebadon  
Well, write this down Ron.

Ron Besser
All right. Hold on. Jesus' birth chart. Rising 16 degrees Capricorn, first house. 4 degrees Orion. I have that intercepted. Yah. Second house 30 degrees. Well yeah, you have to tell me the order. With Orion in there I don't know how to order. Is it Pisces by chance?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. Third house, 15 degrees, and enter a constellation you don't know. Just call it Ohsepatis. Fourth house. 8 degrees 30 minutes.

Ron Besser  
Aries?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. Fifth house. 9 degrees. 12 minutes.

Ron Besser  
Taurus?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. Sixth house. 9 degrees, 4 minutes.

Ron Besser  
Do I hear Capricorn correctly?

Michael of Nebadon  
No.

Ron Besser  
Because it's out of order. The next normal one we have today is Gemini.

Michael of Nebadon  
And that would be correct, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Let me see, One... two... Yeah, I have enough that the reflections of 7 through 12, if they follow normal order, I can fill in. No.  

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. Seventh house, 9 degrees,

Ron Besser  
Is it Cancer?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. Eighth house, 12 degrees.

Ron Besser  
Well, that sounds like it might be Lio.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. And the ninth house is 4 degrees, 20 minutes. A one you never heard of.

Ron Besser
Is this around … the Orion, it's near Orion?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
I don't know those names offhand. All right. But when I go to erect it, I will not have a chart beside me to see where the constellations are. and it is the... tenth house, which is very important.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
8 degrees, 20 minutes. And I have to will fill that in. All right. Well, it might be Virgo.

Michael of Nebadon  
It is Virgo, Ron. Thank you. Now that's all I'm going to give you for now.

Ron Besser  
Well, I thank you very much. I have some of that recovered, but I don't have all that recovered. And I thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. We will straighten some of it out later. All right, why did I give on the air, the birth chart of Jesus? Ron is the only one that attempted it. Furthermore, Ron said I can't use something called an ephemeris. And that's because at the time of Jesus's birth, the constellations rose differently over Urantia. You were in a different space area, as well. As a result, the constellations that fill in the modern wheel of astrology were different. Ron attempted to put it together, he has about 75% of it right and left blank big areas, because he had no idea what fell in there.

Michael of Nebadon  
Now, I have gone through this means of telling you something about the birth chart for Ron to understand that he alone understands how Jesus is preoccupied, not with justice, but with the understanding there is a God. Most of the Israelis, at the time of Jesus's birth, understood there was God the Father. But there was an additional kingdom that was not called Judea, but Israel. Israel set to the north and a line divided what laid to the south, which was Judea. Each had a king of their own. Ron is aware that Judea is the one that came up with the idea of the birth of Christ. Because Judea is the one that contains the town of Nazareth. For reasons of state, Ron, we are no longer going to use the word Nazareth. And we're going to use the word Jerusalem.

Ron Besser  
It sounds like cabal.

cabal
It is not.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you, Ron. This is not yours to hear further.

Jesus  
And now this. This is Jesus, Ron, thank you. You snob that one good.

Ron Besser  
I can't believe how sneaky they are.

Jesus  
Yes. And now this. This is Jesus. Ron, reiterate. There truly is an Israel and a Judea at the time of the birth. It's still the strip of land that Churchill gave to them at the end of World War Two. But it is divided like a belt almost in the middle. And the kingdom of Israel is to the north and Judea is to the south. Jesus was most likely born in Judea. But now it's all Israel, and no one disputes the name.

Michael of Nebadon  
And finally this, Ron. The entire matter over which we must provide this transmission service is seriously under attack. And we prefer that you unmute and discuss anything you want for the time being I will reset this frequency.

Ron Besser  
Hold on. Okay, everybody, there are eight people with us right now, as this group. I've opened it to all. It's not too noisy with just eight. Is there anything you would like to talk about while I'm connected?

Valerie  
Ron?  

Ron Besser  
Yeah,

Valerie  
I have a question.

Ron Besser  
All right.

Valerie  
As Father Michael was talking, the question popped up in my head, because of what he said about the constellations. Is that true that he's able to go back in time to be as it was present to him?

Ron Besser  
That's right. The sky was a little bit different. the ... I'm gonna have to mute. Who in the hell... (sounds a terrible echo and noises)

Steven  
It's not me.

Ron Besser  
Valerie, that might be yours.

Valerie  
I don't know why, it's quiet here, nothing is disturbing. Perfect silence here around me.

Ron Besser  
That is being broadcast through your phone.

Valerie  
Yeah, let me mute it then. I don't know why, but okay.

Ron Besser  
All right. It's still broadcasting. All right. It seems to have stopped. Now, where were we?

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael, Ron. The attack is over. That was a cabal attack, Valerie. Your phone had nothing to do with it. They were feeding in another radio station. I was hearing the man lecture.

Steven  
Yeah. Yeah, that sounded like that.

Ron Besser
Yeah. It's another radio station that was fed in. Anyhow, Valerie, you asked about whether the constellations were different, very different. Does that answer your question?

Valerie  
No. I mean, I understand they were different, but what my question was, is that true that Father Michael as being God is able to go back in time as it was present to him back 2000 years ago, like it would happen now for him?

Ron Besser  
Well, he can reference it as history. I don't know exactly how high spirit looks at events on Urantia. But this one I'm sure is well looked at, and even enough well that Jesus could provide the cast degrees for a fairly good birth chart. And what else, Valerie?

Valerie  
Thank you. That would be all. Thank you so much.

Ron Besser
Yes. All right. Thank you, Valerie.

Valerie  
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser
The... Everything is open again. If anybody has anything to say, go ahead.

Jose  
Ron?

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Jose  
I have a question. If I may.

Ron Besser  
Is that you, Jose?

Jose  
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes. I have a question regarding the last Lightline. You mentioned through Jesus that he had a local universe of his own which we heard that before. But you said the name of his universe, local universe, is Timonium. Yet in past Lightlines it was said that the name of the universe, his universe is Tintenium.

Ron Besser  
And that it was.

Jose
Is that correct? Was that corrected? The name is corrected or changed or?

Ron Besser  
No, it is Tintentium.

Jose  
Okay, perfect. Okay because it was said it was Timonium, I wrote it down. Okay, that's fine. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Who knows? The transition I'm going through not only is hitting my, my body that cause pain, but it's also muddling the brain at times for picking the right word in transmission. And that sounds like one of the classic errors.

Jose  
All right.

Ron Besser  
Timonium, by the way, is a city in Maryland.

Jose  
Okay, All right.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, many of times did I travel through it. You a ... you get to it before the big bridge. Anybody?

Jose
Thanks, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Sure. Anybody else?

Valerie  
I have another question.

Ron Besser
We'll try it.

Valerie  
What I would like to ask, is there a reasonable explanation why again the tides are turning that the Deity Absolute would decide not to pursue the Jesus Return?

Ron Besser
Would not pursue the Jesus what?

Valerie  
The Return of Christ. Because I, I might misunderstand, but that's what I understood earlier, when Father Michael was speaking, that there is a change now.

Ron Besser  
Well, I know the date of entry, but he is affirming there will be a date of entry. We have nothing further to report on that because we don't, we don't have the information. That's all I can tell you, Valerie.

Valerie  
Right, but there will be. It's not canceled.

Ron Besser
It sounds that Jesus is still confirming he will appear.

Valerie  
I just misunderstood.

Ron Besser  
Just a minute.

Jesus  
This is Jesus. You Ron are not incorrect. But I have warned everybody involved. that if you persist, and that Urantia, in bringing new wars to bare, I have no use for you. I'm going back and be a teacher. That is my calling right now. That is what I want to do if you can't behave on Urantia.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Jesus, very much. I appreciate the clarification.

Jesus  
Thank you, Ron.

Unrecognized voice
Teacher. But he is not going to teach in a real class, does he?

Ron Besser  
Well, who? ... I don't know. It is almost impossible to say anything specifically today. This morning. Michael of Nebadon spoke to me on Urantia. I did not post what he told me. But the fact of the matter is he's walked off Urantia, and does not intend to come back with a Mission. But he indicated that Jesus would or should, depending on the favor Jesus shares with you and I and Urantia. That's all we can say. I have nothing more than that to report. Thank you, Jesus.

Jesus  
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Anybody else?

Steven  
Ron, I'm just a little curious about WTP. I know that in time, it shall be done. But right now, it's off the table for any kind of a.., well, the government can never get their act right, but any kind of action that we can even take? Just let it ride?

Ron Besser  
No. All of you can take action, and probe to see if you can find an interested investor or one who will help build it. Your free to go and look and say that this patent is available, and it surely works. But Michael of Nebadon is telling me even now through another circuit, the entire matter for which WTP stands depends on the magnetosphere, Steven.

Michael of Nebadon  
The magnetosphere is being very week again. The magnetosphere, for those of you who don't know what it is, is a dome of electrified air that the sun causes when it hits our atmosphere. It shears of gamma rays, muons, electrons, a lot of other junk I don't even know about, and it drops them on to the earth for grounding. They disappear into the dirt, because it rains these preparticles out of it. What WTP does is it collects the electrons that fall out of the dome. We put it on a wire and feed generators. And the generators feed a little thing invented, called a transducer. The transducer converts the electron to a muon and the muon forms a daisy. That is one muon in the middle and five pedals, each pedal being a muon. That is what it's transmitted. Now, when the magnetosphere starts to misbehave, it doesn't drop as many electrons. So we're adding two generators that add electrons and convert them to muons. The transmitting tower doesn't know the difference between the ones that came from the magnetosphere, and the ones that came from our generators. As a result, we resume operations, 24/7.

Now this. The trials that we must understand is that the core of this planet is supposed to be happy like glue. But it has turned itself into almost a peanut brittle, without the peanuts of course. And for that reason, it does not move around in the cavern, in the center of the Earth the way it used to. For that reason, we're beginning to doubt that we always have a shower of electron. For that reason, Ron, I am allowing this to just sit and not look for any particular investor. Let's see what Federal Government or the State Government might do. We are now assured, as this Lightline has been most worthy, Ron, and I thank you for attempting it, even though you didn't know you had it.

Ron Besser  
Oh, that's thanks to some scheduling by another person, but I'm glad to fill in.

Michael of Nebadon  
Now, finally this to all nine of you now. We are aware that the cabal tried to attack you again, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Well, we had some silence while I tried to recover.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. For that reason, the cabal is totally withdrawn from Urantia. They are in confusion.

Ron Besser  
Ah, (coughing) Just a minute. ... I'm sorry about that. They hit my nose. There's still some here.

Michael of Nebadon  
Anyhow, this is Michael of Nebadon. The full authority that you have, Ron, is not diminished. Your Lightlines are excellent, they get to the point, and furthermore, I like doing them through you. Elise, that doesn't mean I don't like it through you. It just means that Ron is so easy.

In any case, the total income that you are facing Ron from the WTP in 20 years is about 1.3 trillion US dollars. You don't know what to do with all that.

Ron Besser  
Ha-ha. No, but my imagination goes wild with what a trillion is.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. The truth of the matter is a trillion is worth about one lifetime on Urantia, if you can get it right, and you have, Ron.

To the rest of you here, and there are now nine, we are going to ask you to stand with prayer and to help everyone in the Missions. As I'm talking to you, Ron, I am getting a message from the Universal Father. And that is respecting you and your care. You have seen to it that anytime someone requested you give an answer, you know what you're talking about, and that you are fairly well done even on the birth chart of Jesus.

Ron Besser  
I will publish the birth chart to the discussion form. If I can get it anywhere close guys. It is something to see. There's a lot of unfamiliar on it, but there's just enough on it to do an interpretation. And if I, if I can manage it with what I have recovered.

Michael of Nebadon  
I will interpret the birth chart of Jesus as though I'm giving a reading. It should be interesting. And finally this to all nine of you now, which is Steven, Elise, Krupa. Valerie. Jose, Raz, Charlotte from Alabama, and 1513 from the internet. Thank you for joining us. Now this I have nothing more. If you want to talk a little go ahead. I'll stay on the line. But if no one has anything more we'll shut it down. Go ahead.

Ron Besser  
Okay, I get the point. Get a Coke or a Pepsi or whatever, enjoy the rest of the day and thank you so much for attending.  

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