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Dear Amethyst,

Thank you so much for asking this question that has been on my mind since their announcement and am reminded of every day when I give thanks for their presence with us.  I appreciate the details provided and am determined to fight my way through my mess of health and other issues to do whatever it takes to fuse while here as a mortal in the flesh and become a better contributor to the manifestation of Fathers will and ways on this planet and anything I am deemed able to contribute to the betterment of this planet and her people through the Missions.

I thank Stella and her comrades as well as all other benovelent celestials for their ministry to us and their service to our Father.

Domtia - Hello and Goodbye and wishing you my heart to meet again
Bynotria - Let us pray together for each others love of God
Urboytia  - Let us work together

This reminds me of a journal entry I have from last November to my beloved "team" where I bring up these same points and voice a similar commitment.

Thank you Probius, Pre'Mtor and Sue,

I love this analogy of the "stitch in time", I grew up in a very poor household and you didn't even consider throwing anything away or not making a valiant attempt to repair what you had.  My mother taught "a stitch in time saves nine" and to this day I believe in that principle that can so widely be applied.  As with many of you I'm sure, it concerns me that we live in such a "throw away" society that has little value for anyone or anything and is so encouraged to disgard and replace when the 'new' wears off or the next best thing comes along.  

To me this is not being against change or progress but about recognizing the value and usefulness of what you have and honoring that value using foresight and creativity.

I am also reminded of a wonderful poem passed down through my grandmother to my mother and myself that originated from Corrie Ten Boom entitled "Lifes Weaving" that I post the link for, as I believe it to be a similar thread of thought which I have placed in another category

I have been blessed to have done cross stitch and embroidery in my lifetime and it certainly presents this difference as well between the upper and under side.

Thank you again Probius, Pre'Mtor and Sue "like a garment stitched together"..."in this service of love"..."to progress in the work with the Creative Parents, who also work in this timely manner to achieve an abundant life to wear well.”


Music Compositions And Other Artistic Expressions / Life's Weaving
« on: July 09, 2018, 10:24:10 AM »

My life is but a weaving
between my God and me;
I may not choose the colors,
He knows what they should be;

For He can view the pattern
Upon the upper side,
While I can see it only
On this, the under side.

Sometimes He weaveth sorrow,
Which seemeth strange to me;
But I will trust His judgment;
And work on faithfully;

'Tis he who fills the shuttle,
He knows just what is best;
So I shall weave in earnest
And leave with Him the rest.

At last, when life is ended,
With Him I shall abide,
Then I may view the pattern
Upon the upper side;

Then I shall know the reason
Why pain with joy entwined,
Was woven in the fabric
Of life that God designed.

Corrie ten Boom

Dear Lemuel,

The Urantia Book most certainly attempts to bring the need and value of 'experience' to our conscious understanding as it refers to and highlights the need for 'experience' repeatedly and just to name a few examples:

- experiential knowledge
- experiential wisdom
- experiential reason
- experiential destiny
- experiential existence
- experiential evolution

I offer a few examples from the Urantia Book:

"(31:3.7) 3. The glorified mortals of the Paradise Corps of Finality are ascendant beings in possession of experiential knowledge of every step of the actuality and philosophy of the fullest possible life of intelligent existence, while during the ages of this ascent from the lowest material worlds to the spiritual heights of Paradise, these surviving creatures have been trained to the limits of their capacity respecting every detail of every divine principle of the just and efficient, as well as merciful and patient, administration of all the universal creation of time and space."

(118:8.6) The slowness of evolution, of human cultural progress, testifies to the effectiveness of that brake—material inertia—which so efficiently operates to retard dangerous velocities of progress. Thus does time itself cushion and distribute the otherwise lethal results of premature escape from the next-encompassing barriers to human action. For when culture advances overfast, when material achievement outruns the evolution of worship-wisdom, then does civilization contain within itself the seeds of retrogression; and unless buttressed by the swift augmentation of experiential wisdom, such human societies will recede from high but premature levels of attainment, and the "dark ages" of the interregnum of wisdom will bear witness to the inexorable restoration of the imbalance between self-liberty and self-control.

(180:5.2) Divine truth is a spirit-discerned and living reality. Truth exists only on high spiritual levels of the realization of divinity and the consciousness of communion with God. You can know the truth, and you can live the truth; you can experience the growth of truth in the soul and enjoy the liberty of its enlightenment in the mind, but you cannot imprison truth in formulas, codes, creeds, or intellectual patterns of human conduct. When you undertake the human formulation of divine truth, it speedily dies. The post-mortem salvage of imprisoned truth, even at best, can eventuate only in the realization of a peculiar form of intellectualized glorified wisdom. Static truth is dead truth, and only dead truth can be held as a theory. Living truth is dynamic and can enjoy only an experiential existence in the human mind.

(112:5.5) And it is this very power of choice, the universe insignia of freewill creaturehood, that constitutes man's greatest opportunity and his supreme cosmic responsibility. Upon the integrity of the human volition depends the eternal destiny of the future finaliter; upon the sincerity of the mortal free will the divine Adjuster depends for eternal personality; upon the faithfulness of mortal choice the Universal Father depends for the realization of a new ascending son; upon the steadfastness and wisdom of decision-actions the Supreme Being depends for the actuality of experiential evolution."

Domtia Lemuel and your Beloved Adjuster for this timely reminder

I picture people standing on the shoreline of a beautiful beach on a hot day watching someone enjoying the refreshing coolness of the water and waves, that refreshes and even strengthens them, beckoning to those on shore to "come on in the water's fine".

Threads for New Transmissions / Re: Diophenes - The Search
« on: July 05, 2018, 10:41:15 PM »
Hi Amethyst,
I did later wonder as well Amethyst if Diophenes may be one of the members of the extended Corps of the Finality that was recently mentioned.  I haven't gotten back to this for a number of personal reasons going on right now but perhaps I will hear from him again or someone else on this.

Threads for New Transmissions / Diophenes - The Search
« on: July 04, 2018, 02:18:05 PM »
Diophenes - The Search - 4-Jul-18 - Newstarsaphire, CA
Teacher:   Diophenes
Subject:  The Search
04-Jul-18 1:53 PM  EST   17:53 hrs GMT
T/R:    Newstarsaphire, ON, CA

“Well at last that is all out of the way for the clarity of your mind and thinking and you are right to be cautious of that which you allow to enter your thoughts, especially in this day and age in which you live.  In my day things were much simpler and yet our search was just as profound as to the origins and purpose of our existence and how that was to be played out in our lives.  

“My name is indeed Diophenes and I come from ancient times of Roman history where man began to turn his gaze inward as well as heavenward and was allowed to do so by the many eases of everyday living that had come our way.  It is interesting is it not that, as the basic needs of life are more easily dealt with, the mind wanders past its immediate needs and into the searchable unknown to discover answers to questions that seem to surface from the very depths of our being.  Indeed it is so as our indwelling God presence urges us ever heavenward and we are like a scout on the scent of a trail we often find difficult to follow but somehow know we are still on the right track and it will well be worth the journey to discover.  That is not to say mistakes will be made along the way nor detours encountered but that is all part of the learning process and the inner hunger for truth.  At times we may stay a little too long or press a little too hard but in that too comes the working out of our self-discovery of uniqueness of personality and progression of soul.  

“In my days on this planet as in the Cynic way of believing, my own leanings and belief patterns lead me on a lonely soulful path and yet is that not true of us all?  What is extreme in perception by others may be the most natural and highly acceptable option to the one who chooses its ways and who needs benefit from its many lessons to teach.   You think to yourself, and rightly so, that hindsight is 20/20 for it is the function of wisdom that considers the past and present in application to future decisions and acts as the fulcrum of balance that can otherwise be so elusive.  Indeed, yes, the fulcrum point is moveable and adjustable according to the weightiness of circumstances and ever is the application of grace at work for our benefit in the education of acquiring enlightenment and balance of truth.

“I thank you for inclining your ear to my missive this day and find your modern times quite interesting too as, regardless of the machinations of living, the quest and the goal remains the same and praise be for those provisions our Heavenly Father has so freely given that draw us to Himself and opens our eyes and hearts and understanding to His will and ways.  Good day to you and happy hunting in your continuing search for truth, beauty and goodness.”


[Transmitter note:  Upon receiving the name ‘Diophenes’ earlier I asked my Adjuster “So beloved if this is a real celestial being that you are referring to me to receive a transmission, I defer to your watchcare as in opening myself up to high spirits of the universe that meet with your approval for me to receive their messages for whatever purpose you have in mind.  I fill myself with the Fathers light and love and life and make room for spirit of your approval to connect with my mind circuits and ask you for a clear circuit My Beloved and those who would assist me in receiving that which is in and of the will of Our Father in Heaven.

A subsequent internet search garnered only a couple of vague references to a Diophenes of early Roman times who seemed to be an extreme believer of Cynic inclinations.  In receiving this message from Diophenes I sensed a very genuine and philosophical signature of earnest thirsting after the essence of truth, beauty and goodness and a no holds barred willingness for its personal life application.  Thank you Diophenes.]

AUDIO TAPE Transmissions Here / Re: Inclusion/Just Do It
« on: June 27, 2018, 11:02:46 AM »

MALVANTRA, MOTHER SPIRIT - Inclusion / Just Do It - 27-Jun-18 – Larry Gossett, Florida
Subject:  Inclusion / Just Do It
27-Jun-18 Posted 7:49 AM EDT
T/R:    Larry Gossett, Winter Park, Florida

Good morning everybody this is Larry Gossett it is the 27th of June 2018, 7:25 in the morning.  I offer this voice recording and apologize for any stops, gaps, stuttering for it has been a while since I have done this.  I give you Malvantra.


“Yes, Larry, this is Malvantra and it was indeed me who prompted you this morning to work on this voice recording.  It is a technique that all of you can learn to use that will be very beneficial for your journey, your soul’s advancement and this great adventure that all of you are on, especially in these days when the Missions are so very close.

“What I would like to sort of entitle this chat this morning is something that Ron said a few days ago when he said and I quote “don’t step back, step up” which is what is so gravely needed on this forum that you have; which by the way is one of the premier forums that spirit uses around Nystoria in these latter days.  

“The other part of this little chat that we are going to have this morning is about ‘inclusion’, so let me address this first.  Inclusion, we talk about team work and this is inclusion of all people on the planet working together to do the will of the Father, to do it in thought word and action, which brings us to the point of ‘just do it’.  This is a slogan that was used by Nike shoe company in 1988 “just do it, just do it”.  This is what all of you need to take hold of.  

“We speak of the mastery involved in transmitting and you all know already that the only way that you’re going to achieve that mastery is by just doing it, for that doing gives you the impetus, the experience, the wisdom and the skill to become the best you can be, not only as transmitters but just as being a spiritual being with spiritual goals on this as I said great, great adventure.  This technique of voice recordings that you’re working on today is so beneficial to you for when the time comes, and it will come soon, the need for you to address the public, address your friends and family to be representative of what spirit gives you and shares with you for that is for you to share with other people, when the time comes.  But all of you know that right now you have to be very wise and prudent in what you say, think and do.  

“Now let me say a few words about infusion or inclusion.  I know that there are many messages being sent that are focused around the “FIVE (5) FUSED ONES” but, and this is a big “but”, we don’t want any of you to feel  excluded in this process in the great gifts that are given for fusion with your Thought Adjusters and as you were informed just a few days ago there are now seven more that are nearing fusion and this is so unprecedented on a planet, especially one that is in so much trouble as your Nystoria (oops I almost said Urantia) and you are all included so please, please include yourself as well.  The mastery that is involved in this doing of the Fathers will, this doing of coming to this forum and participating with your responses with your interest and with your commitment is of vital importance to your spiritual growth and of vital importance for the upcoming Missions.  You, none of you are excluded so please just accept that and continue on with your support of the forum and with your support of the Missions for this is what we are all working towards and we will do this by including all of you and many around the world that you don’t even know or be aware of.

“I come today at your request and I know, that even though you have a house full of company right now, it well serves you to find the time, rather make the time, to come and take part daily in this forum.  So, I appreciate you coming, I appreciate you inviting me in to work on this and I know you feel a little odd coming today doing a voice recording because it has been a long time, but you know you have one who has set a wonderful example for all of you and that is Lemuel, and  Ron as well excels at voice recordings and there will come a time in the very near future when all of this will come to bear and all of the experience that you have will be the pay off so to speak.  

“So this is Malvantra and I thank you for your coming, I thank you for your  invitation and please know that I am with you and I come and be with you as you call on me, even though I may not be the direct Supervisor of some of you still yet spirit, as you already know, uses every possible avenue, every possible technique and aptitude to serve the Father, to serve the Mission and equally to serve humankind who is in such need of guidance of good will and cheer and, as we talked about yesterday, joy.

“Sue is now working on this as Lemuel always does and more and more each of you will gain efficiency and skill if you but just do it, just do it, that is of vital importance to your adventure, your journey, and your involvement and engagement here on this forum.  For there will come a time that this forum will be so overly packed with new people, with new members and with new guests and we can only encourage all of you.  There are times when you can all appreciate acknowledgement and I give you that acknowledgement this day.

“This is Malvantra and I notice that Mother Spirit is here and wants to say a few words.”


“This is Mother Spirit and indeed I do want to say a few words.  It has been a while Larry since you have received a transmission and lesson from me but as you all know my Adjutants are so involved with your lives and you must know that I am always nearby, just a thought away, just a thought away and this entire concept of inclusion and that slogan of ‘just do it’ says so much so please my children stand up, be counted, work on everything that brings you closer to spirit for we are all working together for the same purpose, we have the same goals and we are one in the Father.  This is Mother Spirit and I am signing off now and I thank you for acknowledging the fact that I am here to talk with you as I always am.  I bid you all good day and hope that you come back and work on this again Larry for it is so very important that you become a well-balanced spirit being.  I thank you, good day."


Threads for New Transmissions / The Mentori - Be Eager Students
« on: June 21, 2018, 08:34:25 PM »
The Mentori - Be Eager Students- 21-Jun-18 - Newstarsaphire, CA
Teacher:   The Mentori
Subject:  Be Eager Students
21-Jun-18 7:31 PM  EST   23:31 Z/GMT
T/R:    Newstarsaphire, ON, CA

“Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name”.   what does that mean to you?

“Thy Kingdom come…”  what is the significance of that to your understanding?

“Thy will be done on Earth[Urantia/Nystoria] as it is in Heaven…”   What does that look like in your minds eye?

“These are questions most people never seek the answer for and that is for a variety of reasons.  Perhaps the speaker of the words of this prayer is mindlessly repeating what they have been taught and it is simply rote oratory; perhaps they seek the comfort these words are expected to bring to their mind and soul; perhaps they believe that by repeating the words they have been taught (that Jesus himself suggested) that they are therefore living the life example he himself lived?

“The point I am making here is, what is the intention of the heart behind the words that are spoken?  This is not for you nor I to judge for that is left to the ones to whom the prayer is spoken.  It is the intention of the heart more so than the schooling of the mind that propels the desire to be heard and it is neither the intensity of the emotions nor the desperation of the spirit of the one who prays.

“What are the intentions of our thoughts and prayers; what are the desires of our will and purposes and are they in line with Fathers?  These are questions we each must ever ask ourselves and be honest in our self-discovery.

“We are not a blank slate in our minds for Father to write the “special menu for the day”, we are thinking, reasoning, self-willed beings who are afforded the opportunity to become more than we could ever be alone unless we choose to remain in our pretty little boxes with a ribbon neatly wrapped around it for others to admire and ourselves to look at in smug appreciation.

“We, each free-will gifted creature, have a higher calling, a parade of unwrapped potentials that we can achieve if we only choose to pay attention, ask the questions, seek the answers and walk the paths of self and Father discovery that lays wide-open to us all.  

“Will you choose the intriguing path of untold discoveries to be made and experiential riches to be uncovered by truly seeking the will and ways of the Father and following His guidance throughout that journey?  Will you allow the quest of the unknown to draw you higher as it challenges all you think you know and believe?  Will you allow your horizons to be expanded far beyond your present ability to behold?  Will you search out the fuller meanings and broader perspectives that await your blossoming into their reality?  Do you want to experientially comprehend what it means to be a co-creator?

“I ask you these things that you may ponder their meaning and have you mindful and ready to search out and receive their value for your lives.

“I am the Mentori and my heart is to teach the eager students who desire to learn and grow and anticipate possibilities.”


General Discussion / Re: Where Are Those Joyful, Spiritual Goosebmps
« on: June 20, 2018, 02:53:17 PM »
Brother Larry

I, as well as probably everyone else here... ;D , relate to what you are saying.  It sure takes a conscious effort to keep the faith and move on to find and bring with us the positive and its uplifting expectations.  Thanks to our Beloved Thought Adjusters and all the Divine benevolent energies of the universe ever at our disposal we have the choice and resources to face change and embrace new beginnings.

(26:5.3) That, then, is the primary or elementary course which confronts the faith-tested and much-traveled pilgrims of space. But long before reaching Havona, these ascendant children of time have learned to feast upon uncertainty, to fatten upon disappointment, to enthuse over apparent defeat, to invigorate in the presence of difficulties, to exhibit indomitable courage in the face of immensity, and to exercise unconquerable faith when confronted with the challenge of the inexplicable. Long since, the battle cry of these pilgrims became: "In liaison with God, nothing—absolutely nothing—is impossible."

(48:6.36) Even as mortals, so have these angels been father to many disappointments, and they will point out that sometimes your most disappointing disappointments have become your greatest blessings. Sometimes the planting of a seed necessitates its death, the death of your fondest hopes, before it can be reborn to bear the fruits of new life and new opportunity. And from them you will learn to suffer less through sorrow and disappointment, first, by making fewer personal plans concerning other personalities, and then, by accepting your lot when you have faithfully performed your duty.

The above quotes from the Urantia Book do not reveal what we really want to hear about our ascendant journey but if what we really seek is 'truth' then I believe our acceptance of that truth becomes a guidepost along the way.

I thank our Father and everyone and everything we need that He provides for our journey, including my dear brothers and sisters of this Forum and elsewhere on and around this planet of opportunity.

Prolotheos - Be Mentored in Father’s Wisdom - 19-Jun-18 - Newstarsaphire, CA
Teacher:   Prolotheos
Subject:  Be Mentored in Father’s Wisdom
19-Jun-18 3:25 PM  EST   19:35 hrs GMT
T/R:    Newstarsaphire, ON, CA

“This is the dawning of a new era on your world called Urantia/Nystoria and it is with the mindset of doing the Fathers will, in his ways and timing that will see you and your brethren through to the days of Light and Life for which you long and your planet cries out in despair.  I am of the Seraphim order which has longevity on this planet through the ministries of high spirit counselors who draw near to those who draw near to the pure higher energies of spirit in their thoughts will and intentions.  

"It is of a certainty that there will be personal and social upheaval but such are the ways of change on such a planet so torn with strife and expectant of corruption and violence at every turn.  We see and hear and sit back in wonder how a people and planet can be so resilient time and again in their strange evolutionary journey into the concepts of love and brotherhood for all.

“Is there a time so ripe as to pick the fruit in its most perfected state of maturity or will the winds of corruption once again cause the fruit to spoil on the vine or be plucked in anticipation of darker days to come?  Such is the quandary of the farmer with his crops and the situation at hand before us.  

“Can the fruit be preserved if harvested too soon?  Should that which is over-ripe be given over to continue its evolutionary path in its natural environment?  At the behest of Our Father in Heaven we must await the counsel of He who knows all things from the beginning to the end.  

“It is a scenario best viewed from the all-inclusive panoramic view of Paradise wherein dwells the Source of wisdom, the essence of virtue and the foundation of all that can and must exist  to play out in the vicissitudes of life from before their embryonic state on the worlds of time.  The pressures and pain and struggles and gain are ever kept in perfect balance through the heart of the one who pours out His life energies into every form and facet of existence.

“I bid you now, today, to look into the face of Life itself and comprehend the similitude of His gathering and giving, as you await in peace the dawn of each new moment of opportunity you are given to be mentored in wisdom by giving Him your ear to hear and heeding His wisdom freely given to each of his children for the asking.

“I am a way bringing to your conscious mind the Fathers desire to fellowship with each of His children near and far.

My name is Prolotheos and this one questions her worth as she lays this before her brethren in service.”

[Transmitter note:  I note here for the reader that Ron’s post states Prolotheus is a Secondary Seconophim and I stand open to correction]  

[Thank you Prolotheos, I have sensed an overwhelming presence of the Heart of God this day, of His love and acceptance so freely given.  I thank you for so gently coming through me as I sat to receive the voice of Father’s ambassadors in spirit.]

Man’s Humanity to Man – The Make It Work Foundation

As my perception is that this would be a support system for any and all whose intention is to help their fellow man I believe it is wise to stay away from the words ‘federation’, ‘fellowship’ and ‘brotherhood’ as they have their own connotations and preconceived ideas that precede them.

A “Foundation” conveys the idea of a support system and that is what I see this as being, a support system that provides the “nexus” for social/humanitarian ideas to come together with the manpower and resources they need as the cogs to make them workable to achieve a common goal that is exclusive of race, creed, culture and religious belief.

The project can be big or small and what I envision is a “database” of manpower and resources where creative minds may propose action plans with specific goals and objectives as well as time lines where those willing and able to provide the manpower and resources may choose to come on board and form teams to bring the proposal into reality, basically to “make it work”.

There are many wonderful people with many unique ideas to help their fellow man but connecting those people to the support and resources they need has killed a lot of creativity in the dead air of bureaucracy, etc.

We all have something to contribute be it time, resources, skills, and even encouragement and we all know that not only do many hands make light work but results improve exponentially when those many hands are self-motivated.

Any time I worked for temporary employment agencies whether the assignment was for a week or months I always had a personal goal of finding ways to incorporate something into the tasks of that job that I could leave behind for the next worker that would make that job a little smoother or easier for them and I perceive a much higher intention and more far-reaching results for those who desire to give of themselves for social improvement without the intention of monetary gain.

I think what we are considering here is the support of good and healthy “intentions” for “mankind” being given a fair and equitable chance to come to fruition without the usual hindrances.  Since I see this as an opportunity of support for the “idea” being provided by those who can make it come to pass and not by those who have control of the “purse strings” there is a much greater chance of success when you also consider the factor that all are working towards a common goal they have chosen to make happen.

The opportunity to give of oneself to a worthy cause is not a new one by any means, nor is it one that is specific to any age or group.  Definite challenges would of course include that of wise oversight without hindrance of objectives and for sure the benevolent presence of spirit will guide and inspire.

I see this as also being a catalyst for inclusion, personal growth and broader understanding.

General Discussion / Re: Haqppy Birthday/ Gift of Nystoria Book
« on: June 09, 2018, 12:05:26 PM »
Ron Besser -  Happy Birthday,  feliz cumpleaños, Bon anniversaire

Ron and forum friends,

I received the email and chose to use the "Report to Admin" option because I wanted to test it out and ask you Ron if it worked as I assume it is supposed to be used to report posts and personal messages to Admin (in this case Ron) to alert them of possible website abuse?

I particularly like Father Michaels comment I quote below about "people who hate before they think".  All too common and true it seems to me these days and a warning to us all to be vigilantly conscious of our thought processes and as Lemuel advised to be aware of "the observers" within us.

I thank you all for responding so well to this threat of annihilation by people who hate before they think.

Love to all my forum family

Hi Newstarsaphire - the mechanism to report site or post abuse worked well and I received your report via that mechanism.  I sincerely thank you.  But I also like to say that when you all posted to the thread running here it made it a group recognized need to rally the wagons round to protect the integrity of what we say and do here too.  I cannot overemphasize that there needs to be a group dynamic to supply me with the idea you care very much too.   You all have done that well and it makes me feel some pride we can stick together on really touch challenges to our faith and beliefs,  Thank you!   Ron

These two exerpts from Rons last two posts in this thread have answered my personal question of current "fusion" status for mortals on this planet, whether it had reverted to chariots of fire or would be allowing continuation in the flesh to serve Father here.

I quote the following comments both by Father Michael:

"I am tiring of this review process by you Ron, but you are making it clear for me that we have no real obligation to answer these questions, but this is important enough to pause to give you my answer:  There is no change in our choice to help those qualified to find a way to fuse with their Adjusters while in the flesh.  I make it clear you are no longer under my guidance but under the Finaliter guidance and that you do not care for since you find them estranging in ways you cannot identify well.  Here after address it to Elyon and Elyon is without portfolio to these questions as well.  Good day."
“…we have five fused mortals on Urantia.  It is an outstanding effort by all of them and we must abide in that honor as well even though I got harsh with Ron asking about it.  I do not rescind those remarks entirely but mostly, and let Ron know it works yet on Urantia and you five may be the last ever agondonters to succeed where everyone else has failed fusion because of it on Urantia ever.

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