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Yes, I see Newstarsaphire - But because I cannot see any Light like that I honestly forget about it and that includes what is dictated to me sometimes.  Many dictations are simply withdrawn from memory and I remember not a lot about them.  But your post gives me an opportunity to update what just happened about an hour ago.

I have never been assigned Destiny Guardians before' that is, Seraphim who would guide me to my Paradise choices to come.  I asked why this was trued and Michael told me I was too hard to handle in almost all categories, which does not make much sense to me, but I accepted that it was not easy to guide me in that I had no real objective in my life until the Fifth Epocahl Revelation came along.  That I was put on fire and have burned for it ever since.

As I was finishing the first post above I got a tap on the shoulder to take dictation.  Michael spoke, then Gabriel, then Mantutia, and then . . . WHAT'S THIS?  MACCABE SPOKE.  Who is Maccabe? 

I have a Guardian Destiny Seraphim now!  She introduced herself to me and Michael told me about her and Gabriel patted her on her arm to commiserate that she was going to have a rough time, and then my special Melchizedek, Moody Mantutia, inclined his head and told me I am still his Ward too and the he had a lot to teach me and guidance galore and that he and Maccabe would two punch me into something decent for a change.  I was excited and found it exhilarating to say the least.

I have to leave it hang there, as Maccabe is a wonderful angel for me to have because I feel her!  I asked her if her presence influences me spiritually--  meaning do I react not just spiritually, but that her presence changes how I feel toward life?  And I asked that because I do feel something and it is very pleasant to have around.  I do not explain much because she wishes to speak with all who read this about this change for me:

MACCABE, THE ALMOST  COMPLETION SERAPHIM TO BE -
"I am Maccabe, and that is my true name and not a moniker as you use them on this list.  Ron uses Aronolac as a moniker on his email address for as he says, there were so many Ron's all those addresses were taken he could think of, so he used one Ron ( a Ron) and a science ending and no on had that.  You know the rest.  Now we prepare to settle in as a Guardian.  My assignment on Urantia is personal and deeply felt, as I care about what happens on Urantia very much.  So does Ron and that is what first attracted me to learn about him.  Ron is now officially my ward too along with Mantutia Melchizedek, and together we will get him to Paradise as quickly as we can when he is finished with his assignment on Urantia.

"Ron is the first human to have an actual assignment to carry out on Urantia.  He is also the first ever to have a Bachelor of Arts degree in History that has nothing to do with his work on Urantia, which was to advise Engineers from having cost overruns and he did that well enough when management let him do it.  Finally, Ron is so advanced in his work on Urantia, that little biddy who claims we need new rights for prostitution in the Urantia Book too,  Ron felt she was good enough to learn she was most attractive but long gone soon from your discussions about new epochal revelation."

MICHAEL OF NEBADON -
"What Ron has not told you is that Maccabe is nearly a Completion Seraphim and is of an Order we do not disclose in the Urantia Book, and may never do so, as their need is passing as we clear the Local Universe of Madison Square Garden events like Ron shows us he can do.  That is because I am a Completion Creator Son so to speak meaning I have done all seven Bestowals required of me by our Paradise Father as creatures we populated the universe with in our creativity period.  Ron is a completion human and so is Lemuel and Larry and Sue and Amethyst.  And so far all have held their ground in spite of my wish for Amethyst to get busy more than she is but she is also beset with personal problems due to relationships that have almost gone ballistic.  I am sure these things are of interest no more to Maccabe, but Ron is of intense interest to our Maccabe, and she was the angel who compromised herself just enough to show Ron her beauty and a sense of grandeur we hold her for up here.

"Maccabe was part of the angelic brigade that held forth on Jerusem when Lucifier seized control of the capital of Satania and forced him to vacate the are of the Most Sacred Mount which you do not know about yet.  You will in the new Urantia Book, and you will also see Maccabe's name listed there too as she was among the few angels who recognized the nefarious ways of Lucifer and knew of his murderous conduct already even before it became public.  She was the original angel of distinction cited with Loyolatia and Serena and a few others you do not know their names yet.  You will. 

"In looking at this pairing, Ron considers himself most fortunate to be under the tutelage of Machiventa Melchizedek and Mantutia Melchizedek and a few others we dare not mention as they are unrevealed Deity from a far future estate that does not and should not revealed yet.  Ron wants me to explain to those of you reading this, that all of you are in line for some of the same thing for standing with him and Me, Michael, through these storms of conduct, and he is not that special at all once we learn the true nature of some of you who participate with Ron in this gathering on line.  WE return also to say that Maccabe is not fully a Completion Seraphim but will be so in another few days of Urantia time.  Ron asks why Maccabe would want to weigh herself down with Guardian duty when she will be offered glory in her new work as a graduate Seraphim equivalent to a Finaliter as a human.  She replies she considers Ron so exceptional that she will stand his trials with him soon, as he must find himself a partner in love and then drop the pretense he knows nothing of marriage in truth.  His life is full of vexations and sad occurrences of things that should have worked and never could for reasons of State.  Maccabe is also one of the few angels Ron will tolerate as he has taught himself how to be good and refuses to compromise in sex or heart or dalliance and avoids all usual places for watering holes and exhibitionism anywhere in the world.

"Finally,  you are about to find Ron much easier to deal with as that prostitute Ashly's post is allowed to stand awhile for your own edification.  Ashly is a lovely girl and mistakes Ron prudery as a law:  He fashions no such view on any one and is a tade jealous they can  get away with it and he cannot.  I am Michael and I wish you all a good day."

MACCABE SPEAKS -
"I feel my authority coming on Ron.  Shut this down and get dressed and work hard on what else comes to you today!  Thank you.  Maccabe."
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General Discussion / Re: Need for a Urantia and Spirit Primer?
« Last post by Marjon33 on April 07, 2018, 12:53:13 PM »
Hello Larry and to all others who may find this thread, 
I completely agree with the idea of developing an introductory book(s) or lesson guide(s) to assist those just being acquainted with Spirituality as well as TUB for the first time. Additionally and just as importantly a clear understanding of physics specific to the multidimensional aspect (frequency bands) of the many realities that comprise the different worlds that are commonly referred in TUB such as the Mansion Worlds should be explained with clarity or otherwise in simple understandable ways.
Also the very essence of ‘consciousness’ should be defined and conveyed in a way that anyone who may read the explanation would easily recognize what is being said.

None of these subjects are difficult but I have noticed a propensity for these things to be made more difficult than need be thereby losing the attention of potential students. It would seem to that all who are involved in Spiritual Teaching should have the same basic boiler plate information so at least at the basic level everyone is talking the same basic talk and not squabbling over relatively unimportant details.

Another observation concerning discussions over TUB, what I see among other things in TUB is a very large hierarchy that is described essentially in bits and pieces but to this point I have seen no visuals that assist the reader/student in understanding the associations between the entities or beings described therein. Not having this type supporting information to assist with learning the scope and scale and most importantly the associations between the aforementioned entities can very well lead to overwhelm and or confusion even to those who are well versed in highly complex matters but not familiar with the specifics TUB.

Furthermore I have seen no writing standards on this site or descriptions of content, form or format that are deemed appropriate or acceptable in regards to developing documents or training material of this nature.

Lastly who must approve a final version for publication if these were to be developed?  Surely development of information of this sort would not become victim of excess Bureaucracy and unneeded red tape and while always keeping in mind the lowest common denominator for training/teaching are those that are completely unknowing about the subjects they are about to be introduced to.

In all honesty I have experienced situations where knowledge was intentionally made less than clear in order for some to maintain a perceived superiority over those they were professing to help. I hope that is not the case here.         

Not to bore anyone but please see My Basic intro here;
40 years in Power Generation Nuclear (Licensed) and Conventional or otherwise erroneously known as Fossil and related Systems Training as an approved instructor, Procedural Development, Certified Grid Operator and Compliance Director functions related to large scale Electrical Systems necessary for Public Safety and Convenience IAW NERC Standards and others as applicable. 

May I be of service to your efforts in some way either here or some place else?

Peace
Marjon33
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Threads for New Transmissions / Awareness versus Preoccupation
« Last post by Michael S Queen on April 07, 2018, 12:39:13 PM »
Speaker: Michael of Nebadon
Subject: Awareness versus Preoccupation
Category: Threads for New Transmissions
T/R: Michael S. Queen, Kasaan, Alaska USA  
Saturday, April 07, 2018  1515 UTC



“We have arrived once again at this place with you, My son – let us begin. Your mortal mind juggles many things… much input, much from your animal creature origin, and even more from your Father Fragment as well… as well as the Spirit and Seraphic teams that attend you and your cohort.

“You are presented with much to process – receive, consider, contrast, keep or discard, then integrate, assess, and reassess. That is the nature of mortal and spiritual maturation, growth, and progress. While mortal worlds across the universes differ greatly, still the pith and essence of your growth and learning processes remain remarkably similar.

“You perceive much of the planetary activity swirling and eddying about you as you survey the behaviors and events of your fellows… and you worry much about meanings, and values, and outcomes. It is good and proper practice to be aware of and understand those events about you – especially to the ends of how they might affect you and those you are responsible for and to, that you might wisely prepare or act on their or your behalf so as to further your security and enable room and time and energy for even more spiritual growth, development, and maturation. Nevertheless, awareness is one thing and preoccupation entirely another.

“For all the apparent ‘hard reality’ of mortal existence, forget not that there is nothing ‘real’ about your sojourn here on the world of your mortal nativity but for those treasures you lay up in heaven – those thoughts, words, and deeds that flower and bear fruit in your nascent soul. Only those things rise and awaken with you in the Resurrection Halls.

“As I repeatedly endeavored to impart to my apostles and disciples when I incarnated among you, what the mortal who was Jesus had to internalize too, was that upon this or any mortal world, there is, in truth and in fact, nothing, absolutely and irrevocably nothing that can be of real harm to the one who has found the Father and is desirous to know more – even the flickering hope of such a kinship is sufficient fare paid for transit to the Mansion Worlds.

“Love yourself as I love you – learn about, foster, and grow in that same love. Love your neighbor and embody the love and mercy of the ‘good news’ to your fellows as you continue to cultivate that knowledge and guidance within yourself. All of this ‘mortal stuff’ passes away – the briefest of instances in your eternal journey toward the Paradise Father.

“There will be a time, My son, where you will pass inward and upward beyond Me and Nebadon, toward ever more learning and living in the similitude of the First Source and Center, fused with Father and increasingly indistinguishable from Him. Yet, even as I am in Him, and He in Me, you and I will ever be one in His will for us both.

“Learn to disengage even more from the stimuli of mortal existence as you seek ever to improve upon your ability to come to and reside in stillness. It is here, in this still and quiet place within, where the realities of eternal life and ascendant growth await you.

“Break now – rest and refresh – turn your thoughts from the external to the internal. Receive that refreshment and energization that circulates always from the Paradise Isle. Go in my peace. Good day.”
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General Discussion / Re: LEMUEL LIVES Horray!
« Last post by Pliktarious on April 07, 2018, 12:08:35 PM »
Lemuel, great to see that you are still one of the living ,we thought you had kicked the bucket and I was relieved it was a false alarm. Hope you get well soon, Domtia. :)
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Ron,

I had noted these comments from Serara in your post yesterday Bulletin: Magisterial Sons Returned and Missions Hope Rises Like A Phoenix

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"You glow brightly today with the bright light of the majesty of Michael before you and behind you and on top of you.   The Light of Michael follows you fully now and no one in spirit dare broach it without the encouragement of Michael Himself."

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"...he is wearing his mantle of Light well today and we congratulate him on becoming the first human in history to wear the Michael Mantel on his flesh and bones body ever in Neabdon and only once or twice in other Superuniverses. "
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Congratulations Ron, for your Michael award, but just want to know what is your real status now that you know you are rewarded ? Your angel’s history looks indeed like a fairy tale, the one I used enjoy listening when I was young. ;) Domtia
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General Discussion / Re: Need for a Urantia and Spirit Primer?
« Last post by Ron Besser on April 07, 2018, 11:03:26 AM »
Larry, that is still a book that is secondary and has little use regardless of your wish to imagine one into existence.  That is what you would have to do to get a good one.  Mantutia says the Foreward was supposed to be that primer, and that is how I, ron, use it, as it condenses that major concepts and writes them out in the preferred revelatory way.  I know your longing but it cannot be truly unless Mantutia takes the time to write a primer, and then why do the whole Urantia Book beside it when you have a volume one third the size of the original Urantia Book?  He is right and I would not trade that so called primer for not reading the full sized rendition.  Thanks for your post.  Ron
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Just a brief report to all of you.  Last evening I awoke from a nap, and as I got my eyes open, there before me was a tall figure, over seven feet tall, and I saw her from the arms up as she gently reminded me they have no feet.  She was truly beautiful, a real yummy being with lots of energy and a lovey bearing.  She spoke to me and may have chuckled too at my surprise.

I asked her (as the appearance lasted a full minute and one half) if it was easy to show me the physical form she presented me and she said she was exhausted but glad to do so.  I asked her why I saw no spirit down to the floor, and she told they do not have legs, but that is the blue white energy of spirit and it has no physical equivalent.  She said she wanted to do that for a long time now, but that she wished to reward me for getting the Michael award I did not know I had.  Now let me tell you what came about earlier in the day as it her appearance may make some more sense after you know this:

About 4PM yesterday I screwed up my courage and went to Walmart to get some odds and ends like milk and grapes.  I am so physically impaired I walk kinda slow pushing my cart, and I started hearing voices in my mind as though someone was transmitting to me.  I have occasionally spoken with some angels that attend to that store and they are fun and humorous with me and cheer me up considerably.  But on this occasion another voice came in quite strong and with a lot of authority which was not familiar to me at all.  It was the Chief Angel over this part of Pennsylvania, and the funny thing, she asked me why I was all lit up?

Well, that was news to me and I said I did not know.  She said, "you walked into this store and one of my subordinates in the store called to ask if you were Jesus? "  She continued, "You are not Jesus I know that but you are so brilliantly lit we wanted to know if you knew?"  Dumbstruck, I said,  "No.  I do not know anything thing about it."

The Creator Son, Michael came in at the moment (and remember I am pushing a cart as this was going on as the store was full of people, and you had to keep moving or get run over),  and told her I was awarded a special light to carry that day and all angels ought to see what a brilliant light a human can have on Urantia if he has done his work properly.  Then Michael was gone and the Supervisory Angel (working hard to be a Completion Seraphim soon) chatted with me even as I went out to the car to load my groceries and go home and even on the way home.  Now that was quite an honor to me!  And to have an angel whom I did not know and was not the Supervisory Angel I spoke to in the store, tell me she wanted to do that for years with me but did not have the courage to do so until I showed up with all my lights at Walmart!

Ron
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General Discussion / Re: Need for a Urantia and Spirit Primer?
« Last post by LarryG on April 07, 2018, 10:47:47 AM »
Michael, Ron and others.   I am not talking about a primer for people who already know what the Urantia Book is, have a copy and are in a study mode.   I am talking about people who have little  or next to no exposure to spirit values, beliefs, little experience with the truth as we here accept.  When Jesus stands at the UN, when Serara shows up on the world stage through whatever means that occurs, when man finally is confronted with an Incarnated Spirit Being from Paradise or from Nebadon, standing in fron of him or on his TV I would think,he is going to need some real basic and simple basic foundations about the complexities of the Universe that he can relate to without going head long into something he is not going to have the faintest idea about in the beginning.   I am just talking about the average  man woman and family unit on Urantia  that has, so far, a life in the dark... spiritually speaking.    Just a thought that I often have.    LarryG
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General Discussion / Re: Need for a Urantia and Spirit Primer?
« Last post by LarryG on April 07, 2018, 10:33:12 AM »
 I was writing this  at the same time Ron was posting his message but thought I would go ahead and post this....

First let me thank you Clency, Sue and Pliktarious for your comments.   And also let me restate just as I have several times in my 5 Plus years of being a member here that I love the way the Urantia Book is written, how it is put together ,how the very formal spiritual language is used and how it leads us, always forward, to higher truths and revelations.   I have long said and written that  our Urantia Book is, without doubt or comparison, the most significant and profound book of information and revelations ever given to mankind in written form.  And a large part of that is in the exquisite way that Mantutia and the many, Spiritual Beings and Personalities and other writers put it together.


I remember the first time I first read the first page of the forward and how awed I was and still am and the impact that that first page had on my.   That page so eloquently states:

Divine Counselor
“0.0.1 IN THE MINDS of the mortals of Urantia - that being the name of your world - there exists great confusion respecting the meaning of such terms as God, divinity, and deity. Human beings are still more confused and uncertain about the relationships of the divine personalities designated by these numerous appellations. Because of this conceptual poverty associated with so much ideational confusion, I have been directed to formulate this introductory statement in explanation of the meanings which should be attached to certain word symbols as they may be hereinafter used in those papers which the Orvonton corps of truth revealers have been authorized to translate into the English language of Urantia.
0.0.2 It is exceedingly difficult to present enlarged concepts and advanced truth, in our endeavor to expand cosmic consciousness and enhance spiritual perception, when we are restricted to the use of a circumscribed language of the realm. But our mandate admonishes us to make every effort to convey our meanings by using the word symbols of the English tongue. We have been instructed to introduce new terms only when the concept to be portrayed finds no terminology in English which can be employed to convey such a new concept partially or even with more or less distortion of meaning.
0.0.3 In the hope of facilitating comprehension and of preventing confusion on the part of every mortal who may peruse these papers, we deem it wise to present in this initial statement an outline of the meanings to be attached to numerous English words which are to be employed in designation of Deity and certain associated concepts of the things, meanings, and values of universal reality.
0.0.4 But in order to formulate this Foreword of definitions and limitations of terminology, it is necessary to anticipate the usage of these terms in the subsequent presentations. This Foreword is not, therefore, a finished statement within itself; it is only a definitive guide designed to assist those who shall read the accompanying papers dealing with Deity and the universe of universes which have been formulated by an Orvonton commission sent to Urantia for this purpose.
0.0.5 Your world, Urantia, is one of many similar inhabited planets which comprise the local universe of Nebadon. This universe, together with similar creations, makes up the superuniverse of Orvonton, from whose capital, Uversa, our commission hails. Orvonton is one of the seven evolutionary superuniverses of time and space which circle the never-beginning, never-ending creation of divine perfection - the central universe of Havona. At the heart of this eternal and central universe is the stationary Isle of Paradise, the geographic center of infinity and the dwelling place of the eternal God.
0.0.6 The seven evolving superuniverses in association with the central and divine universe, we commonly refer to as the grand universe; these are the now organized and inhabited creations. They are all a part of the master universe, which also embraces the uninhabited but mobilizing universes of outer space.”

Quite honestly I was, in that instant,  HOOKED!
I agree heartily with what has been said here and Sue I really enjoy your statement that the Urantia Book IS our Primer to our Eternal Destiny… Wonderful comment as are all of the thoughts you added.
And Clency I do like your comment:
In my opinion, a visual synopsis, introducing the basic of the SER, the like of a new movie, to stimulate in simple terms the curiosity of the general public to know more, would be most welcome. Urantia is well advanced in visual learning technologies to meet the need of all nations of the world and in any language. There are other groups that are doing well in this field, perhaps not with the same objective, but they are using what is at their disposal and they know how to do it. “
And Pliktarious you mention a  children’s book  and what I am thinking that  75% of Urantia’s population may well need is a “Primer” of sorts on that very kind of basic, plainly written, simple level since humanity is so without much in the way of  a Spiritual ‘guage or interest.   That is not to say that there are not good people on Urantia but so many are bankrupt when it comes to Spirit ideals, ideas, concepts, interest, beliefs and awarerness and naturally all concerned want the best outcome  introducing the original Urantia Book as well as the new realease to  such a spiritually backward humanity.

I have every confidence that the Father, Michael, Jesus, Serara, Monjoronson,, Machiventa, Mantutia and all of the Melchizedeks, Margul and all others coming to establish the Father Kingdom on Urantia have already considered everything that will be required to achieve success.  I only bring up the idea of a “Primer”  just from  observations of our world.  

We all have our individual stores of how we found our Urantia Books and the stories of what led us to this site that we call home and where we spend so much time, energy, faith and we give and learn and receive all that is shared with us.  However, most of us already had some “pre-disposition” to Spirit  matters in some way and I would venture to guess  that most of us have spent considerable time in our spirit development, in study, in searching, and now finding, and in our investigation towards  and with faith and belief.   For as person that has no such interest nor this type of  pre-disposition, it would be exceedingly difficul to pick up a Urantia Book and just start reading like most of us have done.

I am sure that Michael, Jesus, Serara and all involved will use everything at their disposa to instill in mankind that certain something that opens the heart, mind and soul to  man’s eternal career so perhaps my thinking about a needed “primer” for that 75%, that average man on the street is unwarranted and mute. and even short sighted on my part….. I just so want the Missions to be successful and to really raise Urantia to the heights of glory that I know she can become… so thanks for baring with me here.     In Love and Service to the Father’s Will, Plans, and Purposes, now and forevermore.   LarryG    
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