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Dreams
« on: December 13, 2018, 09:07:23 PM »
Dear Serara Forum,

I would like to share some dreams I have had, which I feel may have Adjuster content. May this be appropriate here?

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Re: Dreams
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2018, 10:29:27 PM »
Give it a try Charles, and let us see how you are hearing the latest news through dream interpretation which I do with the help of Salvington if nobody really has a clue to their content.  Ron/Admin
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Re: Dreams
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2018, 05:44:11 AM »
Hi, Charles. Yes, you can share your dreams if you wish and it is a dream that has impacted you. I myself have shared much of my dreams here at the Serara Forum. I'm not an expert on dream interpretation, but I've had many strong dreams in my life myself. Many times I feel that the dreams that I have, have some connection with the subjects that are dealt with here. A big brotherly hug. Julio.
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oi Charles. Sim, você pode compartilhar seus sonhos, se assim desejar e for um sonho que impactou você. Eu mesmo já compartilhei muito dos meus sonhos aqui no Fórum Serara. Não sou especialista em interpretação de sonhos, mas eu mesmo tive muitos sonhos fortes em minha vida. Muitas vezes eu sinto que os sonhos que eu tenho, tem alguma ligação com os assuntos que são tratados aqui. Um grande abraço fraternal. Julio.
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Re: Dreams
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2018, 12:16:29 PM »
I am like yourself Julio, I dream a lot, but some dreams are so spiritual, I would put them in a different category.
About 43 years ago, I got caught up in a bad scenario where I felt that my life was threatened .I was been interro
gated for a long time ,and under a lot of stress.I do not want to go into detail about this ,but I felt that my life was
 threatened.I was very tired due to lack of sleep and nodded off. It was then that I had a vision ,where a spirit being
approached me,this celestial being was in the shape of an orb and was a golden yellowish color. When it approached
me all my fears disappeared and I went from nightmare to heavenly thoughts.I remember thinking "what was I afraid 
off", everything became so clear. After this experience it showed me another world where a multitude of people with
dark garments and hoods on their heads were walking along a sandy road with water on their left hand side.I did not
 see their faces since they had their backs turned towards me. It was a lot like Prozonovs dream but a different scenario.
The angel or celestial being was showing me something ,that I did not understand.When I woke up I was back in this 
nightmare scenario which I survived as you can see, Domtia.


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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2018, 07:18:27 PM »
Thanks all. I will share now some special dreams I remember. I have included quotes from the Urantia Book which I think might be relevant.

Here is one part of a dream, from earlier this year:

I was in a car in a certain island port town, in a passenger seat I think. I saw a sign that said "Havona" and was surprised. "This is Havona?" I said. Another in the car (maybe the one driving) said yes. I responded, "but I was a mortal just a few weeks ago." They said, "There's no more mortals". I said, "How many survived?". Then they said some number or percentage and I was surprised how low it was.

Another thing from this dream, at one point I saw a woman who appeared to have smoke coming out of her. I think she said something like "I am smoking". This has caused me to consider what really are the effects of doing something like smoking tobacco, on one's morontial(?) body.

Another dream segment: I was at a hotel at the same island port town as the previous dream (if the deities wish, I can say which town this is). I went inside to buy some food, a banana and a piece of bread. I offered cash and the cashier said they don't give change. I said "that's not right". She said, "we love it". "Oh you..." I said. Then I think I used a certain debit card, and they thought that was a good idea. The point-of-sale system had a complicated menu but eventually I made the payment.

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(158.6) 14:5.3 The regulations of the central universe are fittingly and inherently natural; the rules of conduct are not arbitrary. In every requirement of Havona there is disclosed the reason of righteousness and the rule of justice. And these two factors, combined, equal what on Urantia would be denominated fairness. When you arrive in Havona, you will naturally enjoy doing things the way they should be done.

The cashier said, "the weather is about to change." I went outside. There were other people sitting there, talking. Then a mist came. They all started to drop and apparently fall asleep. I felt drowsy but apparently stayed awake, and went inside. I saw outside in the water, a giant person lying on their side half-submerged. They were vary large, thousands of feet tall I would guess, some miles in the distance. I thought they looked female but I wasn't sure. Their skin was moderate lightness/darkness. They were looked like they were sleeping but their mouth was moving like they were murmuring or stirring. Back inside in the hotel, an entity came up outside and showed themself through the windows. There were several windows and in each one, this entity showed a head outside which was a green blob with a face, extending from below outside (not visible) to appear one head in all the windows at once. "Hello, humans," they said. Inside the room I was in there were people sitting at different tables. The blob entity began singing, and there was really upbeat positive music. The people at the tables were really happy. I saw them in sitting at tables under labels of different categories, some having to do with sexuality or food, (which I thought might signify their level of attainment?). When their category was named in the song they showed off as they were featured.

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(188.7) 16:3.19 The inability of the Havona pilgrims fully to find God the Supreme is compensated by the Seventh Master Spirit, whose triune nature in such a peculiar manner is revelatory of the spirit person of the Supreme. During the present universe age of the noncontactability of the person of the Supreme, Master Spirit Number Seven functions in the place of the God of ascendant creatures in the matter of personal relationships. He is the one high spirit being that all ascenders are certain to recognize and somewhat comprehend when they reach the centers of glory.

If this is good, I have more to share, including another significant personal one, and some more recent short ones that might fit the category of "news".

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Re: Dreams
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2018, 07:35:38 PM »
Considering the timing, I will add this one from about two weeks ago.

I dreamed I was in my mother's room and we were watching a documentary about a woman who had died. After that, I saw on the wall, two poster papers with handwritten lists. One was a list of about 10 things having to do with Jesus and/or Michael of Nebadon. One of the first things was something like that governments would not be able to find him just by looking in all the churches. One of the middle items had two parts, I'm not sure if I should state the first part, but the second part was that God does not need "God protectors". One of the last items in the list was simply "desktop publishing". I don't remember the rest.

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Re: Dreams
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2018, 10:27:24 PM »
Charles,
Thank you so much for sharing these dreams.  I hope you are writing them down and ask your Adjuster to help you understand their meaning.  They are quite profound.  Dreams have often helped me understand things.  Keep it going!
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Re: Dreams
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2018, 01:23:13 AM »
When I find myself in a nostalgic mood, I often listen to romantic musics and last night, in a dream, I was looking for a love song when suddenly those words popped up before my eyes : ‘The Prince of Love’. I don’t know why, I instantly had a weird feeling that it was referred to Our Lord Jesus. Hope to have good news soon about His Second Return. :D Domtia
Oh, Lord ! I am your servant, I am your liege, it is my will to have your will be done, I am yours for eternity.

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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2018, 01:48:37 PM »
Thanks for the encouragment, amethyst.

Some dream segments from last night/this morning:
I saw a company (Apple?) making hologram projection devices. Each one would project a hologram about a cubic foot. They each cost $20,000.
I was in an airplane. A ray of light was coming through the window and hit me on the forehead. It felt good. It was a bright concentrated beam of light coming from the sky.

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Re: Dreams
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2018, 07:59:46 AM »
Hi, Charles. I now have a little more time, because I went on vacation, practically, yesterday, December 20, 2018, and should return to work, only on February 4, 2018.

As for dreams. Usually, there are personal and subjective factors connected to the person himself, and the answer will be found by the person himself.

For example, I recently dreamed that I was in Germany today. I already told this dream on another topic. Just to remember, it was hot and I was in a water stream by the ocean and a small tsunami took me into the mainland. I was worried if any object would hit and hurt my body, but nothing happened in that sense, in the dream. People were trying to help me and they could not. It was a strong dream.

In the case, I am Brazilian, but with strong German traits on the part of the father. However, possibly, I also have Jewish origin, as there are many Jews with the surname Steinmetz, and even famous Jews, as one of the wealthiest men in Israel.

In summary, I may have German Jewish origins. And if my ancestors had not left Germany, around 1850 to Brazil, they would probably be in the statistics of the Holocaust.

It's looks I have all the Germanic characteristics, very white skin, 1.80m tall (relatively high), blue eyes.

At the moment, from the dream I was with some momentary personal problems that was overcome, including, overwork.

So I sought my answers in the interpretation of the dream, for the symbols are usually personal.

In some parts of dreams, however, an interpretation is possible for other people, in the face of the fact that some symbols are interpreted by people in a common way.

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In relation to your dream.

I'll try to make a synthesis, and if I have it wrong correct me.

Were you in a technology company, and wondered if it was the American company Apple?
In the dream was a projection equipment that cost about $ 20,000 (twenty thousand dollars). Then a plane ride and an intense light appeared in the window and came toward you, toward your head, and it was okay with you.

Here is your last strong dream.

Before interpreting his dream, a synthesis of the facts, commented here in the Forum Serara, and that possibly has connection with his dream.

I believe that after the events related to geographic pole change, humanity will be rebuilt from the ashes, and the main and initial pole of spiritual reconstruction and renewal will possibly be in the city of York, Pennsylvania / USA.

There will be many companies or organizations, with headquarters in the US, for example, Magisterial Foundation, technology company in the branch of science, Magisterial Bank.

In case, I believe there is a possibility that you work in a technology company that will be developed in the USA. For this your dream with equipment and in your memory, perhaps, the Apple company is a record in its memory of technology company.

On the other hand, air travel may be a trip you have to make to York, Pennsylvania to deal fairly with this possibility.

The light that came in your direction, in my vision, is the light of God, because you felt good, with the light sent to you.

Incidentally, my full name is Julio Cesar da Luz Steinmetz.

"Da Luz" is a surname of the maternal family and means "give light".

I was also born in the city of Estrela. Estrela means star.

Perhaps, this message will serve as a light for you.

A big fraternal hug,
Julio

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Oi Charles. Eu agora tenho um pouco mais de tempo, pois eu entrei em férias, praticamente, ontem, 20 de dezembro de 2018, devendo voltar ao trabalho, somente no dia 04 de fevereiro de 2018.

Quanto aos sonhos. Normalmente, existe fatores pessoais e subjetivos ligado a própria pessoa, sendo que a resposta será encontrada pela própria pessoa.

Por exemplo, eu recentemente, sonhei que eu estava na Alemanha atual. Eu já contei este sonho em outro tópico. Apenas para relembrar, estava quente e eu estava em um ribeirão de água perto do oceano e um pequeno tsunami me levou para o interior do continente. Eu estava preocupado se algum objeto iria atingir e ferir o meu corpo, mas nada aconteceu neste sentido, no sonho. Pessoas tentavam me ajudar e não conseguiram. Foi um forte sonho.

No caso, eu sou brasileiro, mas com fortes traços germânicos por parte do pai. No entanto, possivelmente, eu também tenha origem judaica, pois existem muitos judeus com o sobrenome Steinmetz, e até judeus famosos, como um dos homens mais ricos de Israel.

Em síntese, possivelmente, eu tenha origem judaica alemã. E se meus ancentrais não tivesse saído da Alemanha, por volta de 1850 para o Brasil, estariam, possivelmente, nas estatística do Holocausto.

É olha que eu tenho todas as características germânicas, pele muito branca, 1,80m de altura (relativamente alto), olhos azuis.

No momento, do sonho eu estava com alguns problemas pessoais momentâneos que foi superado, incluindo, excesso de trabalho.

Então eu busquei as minhas respostas na interpretação do sonho, pois os símbolos, normalmente, são pessoais.

Em algumas partes dos sonhos, no entanto, é possível uma interpretação por outras pessoas, diante do fato de que alguns símbolos são interpretados pelas pessoas de uma forma comum.

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Em relação a seu sonho.

Vou tentar fazer uma síntese, e, se eu tiver errado me corrija.

Você estava em uma empresa de tecnologia, e indagava-se se era a empresa americana Apple?
No sonho havia um equipamento de projeção que custava aproximadamente $ 20.000 (vinte mil dólares). Em seguida, uma viagem de avião e uma luz intensa apareceu na janela e veio em sua direção, na direção de sua cabeça, e estava tudo bem com você.

Eis o seu último forte sonho.

Antes de interpretar seu sonho, uma síntese dos fatos, comentados aqui no Fórum Serara, e que possivelmente tem ligação com seu sonho.

Eu acredito que após os eventos relacionados a mudança dos pólos geográficos, a humanidade irá ser reconstruída das cinzas, e o pólo principal e inicial da reconstrução e renovação espiritual estará, possivelmente, na cidade de York, Pensilvânia/EUA.

Serão muitas empresas ou organizações, com sede nos EUA, por exemplo, Fundação Magisterial, empresa de tecnologia no ramo da ciência, Banco Magisterial.

No caso, eu acredito que existe a possibilidade de você trabalhar em uma empresa de tecnologia que será desenvolvida nos EUA. Por isto seu sonho com equipamento e em sua memória, talvez, a empresa Apple é um registro em sua memória de empresa de tecnologia.

Por outro lado, a viagem de avião, talvez seja uma viagem que você tenha que fazer para York, Pensilvânia para tratar justamente sobre esta possibilidade.

A luz que veio em sua direção, na minha visão, é a luz de Deus, pois você se sentiu bem, com a luz enviada para você.

Casualmente, meu nome completo é Julio Cesar da Luz Steinmetz.

"Da Luz" é sobrenome da família materna e significa da luz.

Também nasci na cidade de Estrela. Estrela significa star.

Talvez, esta mensagem sirva como uma luz para você.

Um grande abraço fraternal,

Julio
« Last Edit: December 21, 2018, 08:14:15 AM by JuliodaLuz »
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2019, 06:58:05 PM »
Thanks Julio.

I will now share the other dream from earlier this month that I have been meaning to share here. This one is why I chose this category of the forum for this thread. Some of this one is hard to describe so if a part doesn't make sense, just skip that part.

I was in a room or place with a friend. He was using a computer and related to me they were having some kind of issue with a program that I made. I said, being sort of silly, "why don't you use the time machine?" (the idea being that they had access to a time machine). I was trying to use my computer to show them something or do something. At one point I was holding the computer keyboard in an odd way. He said "he is communicating with me electronically" (seeming to be speaking about me to someone else). I was trying to use the computer but the screen seemed to not be working properly. I asked for his help and he pointed to another one of the same type of computer screen, which I then took. When I retrieved it it was like it had been stuck in a fixed condition, like in ice or a fridgerator (but not cold) but after I took it it was not like that anymore. He gave me some coins, one of which when I saw it I said "this is special, I don't have this one anymore". (I think I know what some of that was about but I don't know if it would make sense to share here now). I saw he had with his stuff a white point of light which was what I had called the time machine, and which I thought of as a black hole. I manuevered to go towards it, or bring it towards me, to check it out. As I got close I felt the gravity pulling me in and saw the spot move around as I got a little disoriented and alarmed and reeled back. Trippy. Back to being with my friend. He then said, "we are closer now" and the last couple words reverberated! Then he started to go to bed. "The old-fashioned way", he said, mocking tossing and turning in the bed (I often have trouble falling asleep and turn each way in bed before falling sleep, and I think he was poking fun at me about that). I was still concerned about my computer and asked him if there was anything he could tell me to help me with that and he said no.

Comments: I looked in the Urantia Book for relevant info about black holes, time machines, gravity and Thought Adjusters. I read there are large "dark gravity bodies" surrounding Havona:

Quote from: (153.5) 14:1.14
On the outskirts of this vast central universe, far out beyond the seventh belt of Havona worlds, there swirl an unbelievable number of enormous dark gravity bodies. These multitudinous dark masses are quite unlike other space bodies in many particulars; even in form they are very different. These dark gravity bodies neither reflect nor absorb light; they are nonreactive to physical-energy light, and they so completely encircle and enshroud Havona as to hide it from the view of even near-by inhabited universes of time and space.

As far as time travel, I'm not sure about that, but there is this part about faster-than-light travel:

Quote from: (260.6) 23:3.2
The universe is well supplied with spirits who utilize gravity for purposes of transit; they can go anywhere any time — instanter — but they are not persons. Certain other gravity traversers are personal beings, such as Gravity Messengers and Transcendental Recorders, but they are not available to the super- and the local universe administrators. The worlds teem with angels and men and other highly personal beings, but they are handicapped by time and space: The limit of velocity for most nonenseraphimed beings is 186,280 miles of your world per second of your time; the midway creatures and certain others can, often do, attain double velocity — 372,560 miles per second — while the seraphim and others can traverse space at triple velocity, about 558,840 miles per second. There are, however, no transit or messenger personalities who function between the instantaneous velocities of the gravity traversers and the comparatively slow speeds of the seraphim, except the Solitary Messengers.

I read that the Paradise Trinity is the center of gravity:

Quote from: (176.6) 15:9.1
The universal circuits of Paradise do actually pervade the realms of the seven superuniverses. These presence circuits are: the personality gravity of the Universal Father, the spiritual gravity of the Eternal Son, the mind gravity of the Conjoint Actor, and the material gravity of the eternal Isle.

Quote from: (103.7) 9:6.2
Much as the Father draws all personality to himself, and as the Son attracts all spiritual reality, so does the Conjoint Actor exercise a drawing power on all minds; he unqualifiedly dominates and controls the universal mind circuit. […]

Apparently Adjusters use the gravity circuits to travel and communicate:

Quote from: (1182.6) 107:6.4
[…] It is a fact that the Adjusters traverse space over the instantaneous and universal gravity circuits of the Paradise Isle.

Quote from: (65.4) 5:3.2
[…] The Adjusters undoubtedly also utilize direct prepersonal channels of communication with God, and they are likewise able to utilize the spirit-gravity circuits of the Eternal Son.

And this says how Adjusters lead human minds to the spirit gravity of the Eternal Son:

Quote from: (76.6) 6:4.6
[…] The indwelling Father fragment adjusts the human mind to progressively divine attitudes, whereupon such an ascending mind becomes increasingly responsive to the spiritual drawing power of the all-powerful spirit-gravity circuit of the Second Source and Center.

Quote from: (84.2) 7:3.2
The spiritual-gravity pull of the Eternal Son constitutes the inherent secret of the Paradise ascension of surviving human souls. All genuine spirit values and all bona fide spiritualized individuals are held within the unfailing grasp of the spiritual gravity of the Eternal Son. The mortal mind, for example, initiates its career as a material mechanism and is eventually mustered into the Corps of the Finality as a well-nigh perfected spirit existence, becoming progressively less subject to material gravity and correspondingly more responsive to the inward pulling urge of spirit gravity during this entire experience. The spirit-gravity circuit literally pulls the soul of man Paradiseward.

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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2019, 02:12:26 PM »
Dreams last night / this morning. One was about a huge ancient "apartment building". It was like the ancient Pueblo complexes, but it was a single high-rise building, and the different families in it were Chinese. I thought I might be living there.
Other dream involving Jesus. It was that he chose a child to become a leader or something. There was a group of people and he asked for any to volunteer their children, and one mother offered her daughter, a baby, as if she didn't want her, and then Jesus took the child and appointed her.