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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Tues LL 07.09.24
« on: July 11, 2024, 07:56:50 am »
  • 070924 Audio Tape Tuesday Light Line USA; Host: Dominick. Other transmitter: Ron
  • Subjects: -Father has given transmitters the ability to decide when to hold lightlines; - Why dissatisfied Seraphim are upset; -Outer space region planets to receive beings of a new order; - Governance; -The Universe of time and space is political; -Politics contains some element of controlled violence; -A resignation from the Supreme Court of the US expected in two weeks.
  • Speakers: Machiventa Melchizedek, Monjoronson, Universal Father , Arthura, Michael of Nebadon.
  • Transcribed By: Moses Ouko
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240709_110510
Dominick
All right, I'll say some opening words. We had a light line that was canceled today. We're unofficially meeting. We don't intend to send mixed messages. But what we're doing is holding the assembly of the humans, you could say, and not under any official light line capacity. Nonetheless, we have transmitters available here in the case of a transmission, notably different from Sunday is Ron's here. So, I'm handing this off to you, Ron, to see if you have anything in transmission. Go ahead.

Ron/ Machiventa Melchizedek
Well, thank you Dominick this is Machiventa Melchizedek. Ron is sitting here kind of on the edge of things he's had nothing but trouble and tuning in that's been fixed at least for this operation. The truth of the matter is Dominick and all those listening there's been a change in the plans. You're hearing it here first.
First of all, we are not going to hold a mission like we thought we were. That is planetary mission. Second of all, we are going to have the Magisterial Sons attend the light lines. They will have news for you as we go and Monjoronson has arrived and is about to speak. I'll take it Dominick if it's okay.

Monjoronson
This is Monjoronson. You, Ron, have been knocked silly. And it means that you are not connected well, but you're connected enough to get a transmission. Today we didn't expect any light line, either did you. But then Dominick said he was going to hold it and you were just fine with it.

Ron
Oh yes.

Monjoronson
Now this. We, meaning the celestial beings on Urantia, intend to hold a mission. Ron threw up a bunch of light into the air. And it's for this reason, Ron. You all have prepared for the missions. But Michael has been told by the Universal Father not to go ahead with a major mission until he signals that it's okay. Ron is very rocky right now. They keep wanting to hit him and take him out of physical life. That is not going to happen, Ron.

Ron
Well, that's nice to know, but I sure am rocky on it.

Monjoronson
Yes. I am in Monjoronson, Ron. Without you, it's not as fun. All right, we... Thank you. We also would like you to stand down today and not post anything more. You have posted already at least one post to the discussion forum and that is causing a rumble among the other ones because you mention that you pull them in but they are not producing as well.

Ron
Well, they are I think mostly under Machiventa. You have to ask him because I don't know.

Monjoronson
Thank you.

Universal Father
And this to you, Ron, when I'm speaking, shut up. And now this. I am not Monjoronson, I am Father. Thank you, Ron. He said, welcome, Father. The truth of the matter is you are welcome to speak with me. When you speak with the time universe, they get feedback. At times it's okay. This time it's not and you we got your okay.  Now this; I am quite sure that Ron would love to be part of the missions.

But there's a problem. The individuals who are breaking the law love to gather around Ron and cause a problem. Ron is strong enough to withstand it, and he has. However, this presents a bit of a problem to us on the upper end of things. And we're asking Ron to stand down on the next light line, which is Wednesday. And I assume Dominick, you're taking that, but talk about it later. And finally, this to you, Ron.

You are the one who sees to it that there are facilities, that they are paid for and that people can hear in a regular fashion. For that reason, we are very grateful. Sometime in the future, not now. We're going to have our own audio, and we will tell you how to tune into that.

And finally, this to you, Ron. It is 98 degrees in the shade where you are. It's 104 out in the sun. You have refused to go outside. But I would suggest that you look at that new barberry plant or that new raspberry plant that Dominick put in. It is cooking under that shield, that black plastic. Take the black plastic off, and you'll save it.

Ron
All right, I will. Thank you.

Universal Father
And now this, I am the Father. To all of you, listen. The Magisterial Foundation is already well known in the universe. Ron put it up to organize the discussion forum and anything else that was important to us to hear. It has been heard loud and clear, and we continue to use the various audio that comes from. But Michael of Nebadon wishes this to be known. Shortly, we're going to have our own audio, and we will affirm to you, Ron, what it is, and you put it into place.

Ron
Thank you.

Universal Father
You're not going to die Ron although it feels like it. Your night sessions are horrible.

Ron
I'm awakening every half hour or so, either I'm comfortable or I'm uncomfortable, and I don't get much sleep during the last two nights, and as a result, I'm not thinking clearly. The Spirit has helped tremendously to me by giving me some rest that they add to what I can get personally.

Universal Father
So, we are going to continue the schedules and the means that we have used. Oh, well, since you've been here. And for that reason, Ron, please know this. The Universal Father is now extending to you and Dominick and the other transmitters the ability to decide when and when not to hold the light line. You have a regular schedule, but the regular schedule is under attack. We will let you know when you can transmit. You're doing fine now.

And finally, this to you Dominick. When Ron turns this back to you, take it permanently because his voice is failing. That's Cabal. And now this, one last thing before I turn it back to you, Dominick. The trial that you all have today is to stay cool and out of the sun. The temperatures on Urantia are abnormal. We don't know the precise cause. But when we do figure it out, you may get a couple thunderstorms, and then it will stay a few degrees cooler. And now this for you, Ron. Turn this back to Dominick and stay quiet. Go ahead, Dominick.

Ron
Go ahead Dominick. Take it from me. Go ahead.

Dominick
All right, thanks, Ron. And you're being left unmuted. You might mute yourself. I don't have a guest on right now.

Ron
That's fine. I'll be quiet.

Dominick
Well, you still talk. See yourself. You might hear it. So let me just do it myself. I got it.

Ron
OK.

Dominick
Yeah. There. Now you can mumble all you want, and no one's gonna hear your dirty laundry. Mental dirty laundry or trans, anyway, you get the idea. Okay. Sorry, I was listening mode and not transmission mode, so I will take the reins. Are you still here, Machiventa?

Machiventa
Yes. This is Machiventa.  Be at ease. All right, thank you.

Dominick
If I say, this is Dominick, if I'm a little distracted, I am working on my audio and visual setup on these meetings, so eventually this will get better. We'll have everything ironed out. But that's what you're hearing picked up right now. Not entirely comfortable with the experiences a one-man band at the studio here. And so hopefully I'm coming in pretty clear. I'll speak up. My telephone is about a foot, foot and a half from my mail. And I think we're all set. Good afternoon. All right, I'm going to check the dial.

Ron
Dominick, you hear me? I Give it to me until you're ready, okay?

Dominick
All right, take it away. I feel pretty off right now.

Ron
Yeah, well, I'll pass it back to you. But let me do this. This is Ron Besser. I have been informed by Michael and Nebadon to speak up and to take some of this transmission. Your problem, Dominick, is you aren't being connected. And the reason you're not being connected is not the cabal, but an inference with the equipment that is somehow or other not working entirely correctly. When you find it, take it over, take it back. This is Ron Besser. I am just listening on the discussion forum this morning. And among the many things on the discussion forum is a discussion about the problem we are having with the cabal.

Let me tell you what the cabal is first. It is dissatisfied Seraphim, angels. They are upset about the fact that planning is going on, on the universe area that Urantia is part of, but have not been asked to participate. That is something we rarely do, but we have asked them not to participate this time because the status of Urantia right now is pretty bad. The angels do not have or have not prepared for this kind of situation. The problem is that the cabal, which is not usually the seraphim, has taken on upon themselves to block not only the discussion at times, but Ron and the transmitters.

For that reason, we are going to prepare the following.
Number one. I am quite sure, Ron, it is on the up and up. Number two, it is an impossible situation for Dominick to really grab hold of the discussion right now because it's super high frequency. You can tell the difference, but you're capable of providing frequencies way above the normal transmitter. And finally, this to you, Dominick. Your material will begin to work in about five minutes. Ron's going to fill in until that time, and then he's going to pass it back to you with a…What's his name? Who's uncle? Uncle, not Uversa.

Dominick
Arthura.

Ron
Arthura, yeah, there we go. With Arthura, sorry Arthura.

Dominick
No, that's a father reference. He's uncle.

Arthura
Okay, this is Arthura. I normally speak through Dominick on these light lines, but I'm going to speak through Ron for a few minutes until we can get the connection with Dominick better done. Number one. Ron is about to leave us not. Although it is a rocky life for him, he will survive. He turned 82 this past June and is feeling his age. But on top of it, the cabal is making life miserable for him. And he has a problem.

Number two, I, Arthura, am about to leave time space and travel to the outer space region because we want to look at one of the first planets to receive beings of a new order. They are not time beings. They are no time beings. And as such, are quite different than you. I want to warn you, Ron, that you look there all the time. Be careful when you do, because we are sending high-powered deity out there to round up the first planets to receive, well, life. It's not quite human life. In about a century. That's no time to us.
And finally, this to you, Ron. You are working hard to keep this together. You make sure that you hear me and that I am indeed, Arthura. I am. And now this to your inference. The news that you receive now is considerably beyond what you should write or publish. However, you have held back, and we appreciate that. And finally, this to you, Ron. You're not going to die off, but you may be transferred to a more morontial state. Right now, it is difficult for you to speak because you have trouble getting air. That's because you have been pushed back, so you do not convert to the morontial entirely. We will have more of this, but not on this light line.

Ron
And now, Dominick, are you ready to receive?

Dominick
Yes, yes.

Ron
OK, well, I'm going to sign off here then and hand it to you. So go ahead, please. And come back to me if you run into something you need to.

Dominick
Yeah, those beings sound pretty neat. I suppose they never have to worry about being late or on time.

Ron
No, no, because they don't have time.

Dominick
All right, I'm gonna mute you. Mute yourself at your leisure, Ron.

Ron
Okay.

Dominick
And there he goes. Sorry to be so abrupt. It's never coordinated that well using this dashboard. Go ahead, Arthura. I await your words. Thank you for attending us.

Arthura
This is Arthura speaking through Dominick. We've put a lot of words and concepts, not only through this transmitter, but through other transmitters. And now we continue. We have discussed, in a broad sense, governance.
As missions approach the planet, one of the reliefs that a light line receives is less preaching and philosophizing on subject material to the point where it feels repetitive or that you already know what's going to be said before you say it or hear it. For some of you attending for quite some time, you want news and sometimes we give you news, but sometimes we react to the news and sometimes we wish to keep it on the spiritual train of thought.

We invite your curiosity questions, but we reserve the right to not address them. However, curiosity questions aren't known as such until they are asked. Your participation with questions is greatly appreciated. It takes a lot of stress off of the transmission material. In moments like these, when you are in attendance on the telephone, you can press 5 star to raise your hand and you might be called upon.

In yesterday's transmission, we talked about the obligation of the citizen, how this bleeds into current events and the words of democracy being bandied about is that in a general sense and in the political science sense, and as above, so below, the branches of governance are now approximately mirrored in nation states on Urantia. Because though, or however, because of the fact that your planetary epoch developments in terms of the stages of original universe government have defaulted, there has been rebellion and there has been an out of order progression in these usual steps. Out of order meaning an unusual order. For example, a Bestowal Son occurred and therefore the still sun epic was inaugurated, you could call that a dispensation before the Magisterial Son or Sons arrived.

In your Urantia book, the Planetary epochs progress with a Magisterial Son or Magisterial incarnation, usually done through the Avonal Paradise Son occurs after the garden epoch of a Material Son and Daughter inaugurating the epoch after a Planetary Prince has established himself or itself on the planet prior to that. And then even prior to that is the epoch of purely primitive and evolutionary development which nonetheless is an intelligent design inaugurated by your Creator Son, your creator father, and Michael Son, who represents and for all intents and purposes through experience is the father of his creation. But the intelligent design aspect is through yet another son of God of that order, a local a local son called the Life Carriers, and they inaugurate an intelligent design but leave it alone for purely evolutionary development once the first human beings appear. That's an example of your mortal epochs.

What is so controversial these days is a lot of the content revealed or written in those very chapters to the point that the point that the mores and values of today are so seemingly different that the book itself has to be rewritten in words that apologize for the past authors' words. You're an apologist when you have to explain yourself against accusations. In other words, you're no longer even teaching the concepts. You are justifying and apologizing for what would be interpreted as inappropriate verbiage. The races, as described, are one example. And now pronouns are a big hurdle.

Now, where am I going with this? In democracies, they are peaceful. But the obligation of the citizen is that you use the instruments of the state in nonviolence. You could say that the need for such apology or apologetic, I'm searching for the word. Forgot to find it. Rationalization of the language are frankly unnecessary. It's not only the mores that have changed, but the comprehension and therefore the obligation of the citizen, like we said, to be educated necessarily to grasp. Instead, it's a reactionary to the current times in a conflation of a misunderstanding in proper context of history. For example, the revelation was given during and up until the times of global conflict, which you would see were the, not only were the crescendo of the rebels who were alive, the original rebels playing on the planetary ethic of extreme nationalism.

And those things such as race and nationalism are aspects to be played out and ironed out essentially during the Planetary Prince epoch and the Material Son and Daughter epoch in terms of planetary history. But it culminated in the horrible rebellion originated factions of oppressors and the oppressed in the extreme nation states of Nazis and communists as they're defined.

Capitalism is not an ideology and therefore is not to be something to be identified as any one particular nation. Capitalism exists because economies exist. And capitalism has taken on a form first embraced by democracies and therefore has been conflated in these last vestiges of anti-democratic states. If you look at argumentation the example would be straw man, setting up something of a straw man rather than addressing what the real root of the argument or the contention is, the point, but instead creating something different entirely and equating it with what you is arguing against you and instead arguing against that. There could be lots of examples but if you look at the news today, you can easily start to identify the straw man argument in almost any side of an argument. And what's happening is the obligation of the citizen to use their words, like an elementary school student, use your words, is being used improperly. And now what you're seeing kind of delving off the point and going back into current events now a little bit, is you're witnessing in your democracies the inability to use words. And so, you have, from our perspective, the toddlers in the street literally rioting when they don't get their way. Use your words, children, is what we would have to say to you and then the children use their words to tantrum against the straw man.

What you're quickly finding out is the universe of time and space is political, and you can't avoid that fact. Therefore, does governance exist in your training and ascension entail lots of these in your education and training on the way to spiritual perfection. And then once you are perfected, you are again sent out into the worlds of time and space, which are in this epic adventure of also evolving to a stasis of spiritual alignment, that the material and the spiritual are aligned. And you could say that the material has been finally fully spiritualized.

So, politics as you also see, contains some element of controlled violence. The penalty of death not only exists in the worlds of time and space, but eventually is the enforcement against that which is no longer viable in spirit, in ultimate reality. The entities and personalities of time and space, since they do not originate in places in places like Paradise which time and space gravitate around or originate in sectors outside of the Master Universe from which I, Arthura, hail from and originate in. Therefore, am I referred to as something of an uncle, and that I am extra fatherly, and that I do not originate from Paradise. But nonetheless, we do have a concept of governance.

Now, one thing, and again, I'm switching back to you and your perspectives, is that the ideal of all these planetary mortal epochs is an evolution individually and collectively to this ideal and practice of self-governance through both self-mastery and a relationship with spirit that you are endowed with and surrounded by and encircuited with. You attain this through approaches from, you could say, two directions. If you were involved in Gnosticism with this kind of ideal of approaching things from both directions, that approach would do well. The current Gnostic feels that they do not wish to enter the political fray. And eventually you must, if you have a personal philosophy from that direction.

What happens is you eventually get impinged on from either the rebel side or the original universe governance side to eventually choose. This is the evolution of this conflict, that you are steered and you cannot help, you cannot avoid this reality that you currently find yourself in. You cannot remain on the sidelines. And the good news of that, though, is that you will find yourself in one camp one week and another to the next. I say week, but it happens over the course of a lifetime of development.
Certainly, things like that happen in lifetime stages, like having children and becoming parents yourself or growing older or just having life experience in itself.

Dominick
So, I've lost my train of thought. There's a very annoying dog I have next door with a high-pitched noise. And I'm trying not to let it bother me. Ron, can you take over for a second?

Ron
Can you hear me all right?

Dominick
Yeah, go ahead.
 
Arthura
This is Arthura Ron. You picked up the phone. I would rather you speak into the phone.

Ron
Can you hear me all right now? Dominick?

Dominick
Yeah, you're just fine, Ron. Go ahead.

Ron
OK, because I'm not sure my control's here. In any case, let me pick up.

Arthura
This is Arthura, Ron. We want to say the following to conclude the lesson. Dominick is quite sure he knows what should be said, that Ron is a different transmitter, Dominick, and you get a slightly different verbiage.
We want to say this. The entire matter of the state is determined by the people who are the breadwinners in that state. For that reason, we believe that the breadwinners, particularly in the United States, are excellent performers. However, there is a problem with the people of the United States. And that is there is no one there to perform the actual justice that must be done. Your Supreme Court has abnegated too much. The present Supreme Court is full of ruck-house and not of good lawyer. In about two weeks, there will be a resignation. We do not know who it is, but we expect a resignation from the Supreme Court in about two weeks.

And finally, this, the entire matter concerning what needs to be said here is best said through Dominick. But Ron, you have an interesting take on democracy. You say democracy is just fine, but it needs a strong leader. There is no such thing as a consensus in the United States. And as a result, you do see a poor performance, not only by the administration, but also the legislative body. For reasons of state, we are not going to comment on the legislative body, but we will say that the administration of Biden and Kamala Harris is excellent, but slowly deteriorating under the fact that Biden is slowing down measurably. We are of the opinion that unless he is careful that the Supreme Court will have to decide when to tell a president to use the vice president for day-to-day operations. We're sorry to tell you that, but that, we think, is coming.

Ron
And now Dominick, are you ready to take this back?

Dominick
Yeah.

Ron
Well, go ahead, then, please.

Dominick
I'm glad we have a mute function because I'll just be honest, I yelled at that dog to shut up.

Ron
Well, we didn't hear it.

Dominick
It sounds like you're yelling at the cabal. It's been seemly. All right. Go ahead, Arthura. We have about eight minutes left and this is being recorded. It's an unusual lightline. Thanks for your patience, everybody.

Arthura
All right, so it's this.
Regardless of where you're coming from in the nation of Earth, and regardless of where you're coming from with religious revelation and having to choose a side, everyone agrees that the family and the home exist. You can trace back to all of these planetary mortal epochs that I just talked about and understand there has always been a family. And for the most part, as we talked about, since the invention of fire, there has been a home. And therefore, is it the States responsibility to foster not only the citizen but that together the states and the citizens work to have cooperative homes. In other words, not the cooperative of the state housing, the many, but the state creating conditions for successful home building of its citizens.

This touches straight into current conditions being set all the time in your democracies, which we will roughly include as any state on the planet generously right now, in that you have your institutions of varying degrees of courts, executives, branches, and representative bodies dealing with laws. The politics though deals with not only the laws but resources. And so that's what becomes essentially controlled violence of the state, which is violence over resources and violence over political objectives.
Democracies intend to mitigate political violence and mitigate resource violence. But as you see through the incomplete and unsuccessful resolution of all your past planetary mortal epochs, that race is still a very big issue. Nationalism of the garden epics still has not resolved itself completely and that the ethics of a Magisterial mission of ethics of individuals and laws, ethics of governance, hasn't even occurred yet. And you have this post-Bestowal age of highly spiritualized conditions on your planet attempting to resolve frankly very primitive planetary struggles in a very advanced environment, not only advanced environment, but a capacity of the planet which is unable to allocate enough resources to satisfy all of its population. And therefore, are you starting to get systemic breakdowns here and there.

It's at this point that you have previous lessons where past governance of politics, of the original rebel, will not work in these conditions. You cannot peacefully cooperate in conditions where the straw man of your argument is based in the framework of an oppressor class and an oppressor victim class. Therefore, is it the responsibility of the citizen to use their words and concepts in a different way. It doesn't mean the logic is entirely wrong or should be punished, but that if you truly wish to resolve the problem, A, in a peaceful manner and B in a way that frankly benefits you and sustains your gains. The better way to think about it is you doom yourself. You have only a temporary victory. Look at all the revolutions prior and rebellions. The victors gain really nothing. They must sustain their victories through ever greater ways of state oppression, which becomes less and less democratic. Or worse yet, quickly they become victims themselves in counterrevolutions and warring factions within the very elements of their revolution itself. Being wrapped up in the victim of the class of oppressed and oppressors is completely undemocratic.

And the number one political law in the universe of time and space is the universal law of life. Thus, we have democracies evolving as the best and divine method of perfected governance that evolves over time to use peaceful means to resolve what is otherwise this inherent tension in the universe of conflict. Conflict does not go away ever in any form of governance. And the best method of creating the best citizens is through a family environment. Therefore, should the state work with its individual components of the citizens to foster the best ideals for a single-family home for everyone.
You have a lot of pressures on you and your civilizations. You can now start with not only the individual conduct of the citizen, but now begin to reassess your bipartisan nature of how you can work together to foster single family homes which create the best citizens. We're out of time for today.

Dominick
And thank you, Arthura. We're cutting this off. So that concludes it. Ron, I'm gonna go back to you for a final word in case that was something else besides an abrupt.

Ron
Okay.

Dominick
Anything else?

Ron
Can you hear me?

Dominick
Yeah, go ahead.

Ron
Okay.

Dominick
Recorded for an hour.

Ron
I forget because I got to turn things on here. It's this.

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael of Nebadon. We have concluded the Tuesday light line very well. And thank you, Dominick. It was superior. Thank you, Arthura, for stepping in. It's kinda hard when you are not sure when there's a regular schedule at the moment.

Arthura
This is Arthura, Ron but you are one of the most secure people we have ever met Ron and you see to it.

Ron
Well, we tried to but it doesn't always make it. Thank you Arthura. Go ahead if you have something.

Arthura
Yes. This is Arthura. I want you all to know that Ron is having trouble establishing a permanent set on his own lifetime at the moment. He drifts, he hears the lesson perfectly well, and makes great use of it. However, I must say that when we're done, he has nothing left. And the reason is this, his mind is almost 100% morontialized. As a result, he hears the words belatedly. The meaning of all this is not available in the morontial. So, he hears what Dominick says, but he doesn't necessarily remember the lesson.

In any case, Ron, thank you for holding it open and ready. And we are pertaining to you now, Ron. Dominick, I would not bother coming over at all today. We've got to give him a break back in order for him to work necessarily in the material realm. He is having a fuzzy time of it and is having trouble organizing thought that is just spoken to him. He is disappointed that we say that, but enjoy your evening off, and we will instruct him accordingly. See him tomorrow if you can. This is Arthura now, and we say good day to all and back to you, Dominick, to close it off. Thank you.
 
Dominick
Thank you, Ron, and thank you Arthura and Michael. What's our schedule for tomorrow, Wednesday lightline?

Ron
I don't know. You have been taking that because Lemuel is ill, but you've taken Tuesday. Let's put it this way. Until I can clarify thinking, I will announce it when I have the proper understanding of what we're going to do on Wednesday. I am looking at my board and Lemuel didn't make it. In any case, tomorrow is Wednesday. You have taken your light line. I can take it if you want me to Dominick, or do you want to take it?

Dominick
Well, if you and I are both there, we'll probably end up doing something like we did today. I'm gonna stop the recording. Thanks everyone for listening.

End.

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Thankyou very much SongatSunrise for this post.
Thank you Pleiadeans for your input.  

You have heard the saying "As above, so below". We know there is insurrection, cabal, rebels, 
and various evil intentioned entities which you cannot see. But as above, so below, the rebellion has a "trickle down" effect: so below.

The above quote is quite interesting. Does it mean then that there will only be peace on Urantia 
after the insurrection, cabal and rebels have been put in their place after justice is carried out? 
Retrained, reprogrammed, restored  or otherwise..
God Bless to all.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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  • 070324 Audio Tape Wednesday Light Line USA; Host: Dominick
  • Subjects: -A history of ascension ecology impacted by missions and epochal revelations.-Divine Spark of God within you; _Fusion is one of your first major accomplishments; -There is no such thing as genderfied universe; -The promised return of Jesus has never been done before in the Grand Universe; -Who you are is what you think and do; -Adam & Eve are on the same ascension path as humans;-They have since been restored to their Material Son & Daughter status
  • Speakers: Van, Adam and Eve.
  • Transcribed By: Moses Ouko
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240703_110135
Pliktarious
I can't hear anything. Are you talking?

Dominick
Thank you. Yeah, yeah, I was talking. But guess what? I was on mute. So we're going to start over. And I thank you for alerting me, because I was going really well there. And I was talking in a closet. So let's just begin with everybody on the light line. We've got 15 in total. So welcome, Pliktarious, Stephen, Namato, both of our Rogers, Valerie, Robert, Renee, George, Elise, Gary, Salvador, the husband and wife team of Donna and Larry, and Ron. And I am your host, Dominick, coming at you from York, Pennsylvania. And we're recording live today on video.

And what I was explaining before I was helped that I was muted was that light lines are transmissions done in a spiritual circuitry restored by the universe government. You could call classify that or qualify that as the original universe government because they were previously quarantined and these types of circuits were off. And before those were reinstated, we had to deal with things like say personal revelation of automatic writing and any insights that might be personal revelation in our prayer and worship and anything that came through our sincere inquiry of the mind. I've been trained to transmit for many years in the community around the fifth Epochal revelation which was a revelation given in the mid-19th or excuse me, mid-20th century describing what God is and who this original universe government is and all the things that were commissioned to be revealed and clarified that are outside of our local universe that was quarantined. So, you could think of that as everything outside of the quarantine zone is described in that book as well. Call it cosmology, call it personalities of various scales of divinity and personalities, classifications of what's a spirit and what would be a fellow human being, which you might consider like an ET. But really, they're just fellow humans, which would qualify as a being of material origin on a planet with a mind. But that's also encircled with the spiritual circuits and not just some anamaton or robot. And in most cases, some sort of will, will be going. What we learned yesterday in the light line was not all humans are necessarily endowed with free will. And this planet, an experimental kind of innovation type planet was certainly provided with free will.

Now, there are some examples of free will being debated even today where some claim we don't have free will. And that's certainly the case in certain behaviors. Not every single behavior requires free will. However, when you get into the advanced philosophies and science of prediction of free will, of human behavior and decision making, and certainly the free will to seek higher, not just knowledge, but spiritual connection with the ultimate mysteries of the universe and spirit of the meaning of life and all those deep things that ultimately provide us a deep satisfaction of meaning and purpose. And so lightlines can aid in that, but it also deals with rather, you could say mundane or day-to-day practices of news, universe news, policy, procedure, could be boring for some, fascinating for others. But we do receive from the higher-ups and the past of religion has tried to clarify through written text and codified in religions, of who that is and who is employed underneath, say, the heads of deity to relay and both administer us to us, minister to us with things related to, say, planetary government, which would be in your science fiction with things like the gods, whereas angels would be something that minister to you, your soul. And so what unifies kind of those things together are things related to our ascension. And what is best understood and restated in modern times now, and certainly when the quarantine was lifted because the quarantine dealt with rebellion and the very nature of defining what this is and what we are and who we are and what it's all about. And what it's all about is our, not only self-mastery, but our soul progress and what we are building in a spiritual body to live after we die in our material body. And that's not just our soul, but our partner in building our soul, which is the divine spark of God, that divine core within us. And that's what we'll be talking about today in transmission. So thank you for joining. And I'm gonna just sit down now in my chair. Little Mr. Rogers here. For those on the call, you'll see the video later, I suppose.
Okay, so a quick prayer. And in the future, I'd like maybe someone else to give the prayer if they want. Contact me if you'd like to. I'm never gonna call on you. But it would be nice to hear from some of our loyal attendees. You're always welcome to participate, certainly through a prayer. You've heard it long enough. You know the, we'd love to hear your input. But we thank you, Father, for these light lines. We thank you, Michael, for your bestowal experience that enabled this. And we thank you Father, for bestowing yourself in the lowliest of your creations of mind and spiritual potential, your sons and daughters of God, these humans in the universe. Thank you.

So with a quick procedure like that, we then simply wait and we ask in the light line, which typically lasts an hour, is there an MC or someone who on the spirit side is taking the reins of organizing the content and the messaging and the transmitter simply tries to voice that in a fully conscious higher frequency of mind, so I'm fully aware of everything around me. And I'm listening to the higher frequencies of spirit and voicing that. Anyone with us today for July 3rd, welcome.

Van
Well, welcome. This is Van. I am Van and I am known by many names in past history on this planet. I served a very long time in between the administrations of planetary bestowal of the Planetary Prince who is unseen and an administrator of the planet. I was part of the main councils of government who arrived with the Planetary Prince and we were seen. And we were those ancient councils of organization and education that brought the beginnings of modern civilization as they are revealed from the heavens. We were considered gods for the concept was not even that well developed on the planet during that stage. But nonetheless, there had evolved humans for approximately half a million years that your planet became eligible. And in normal universe proceedings, we see the Planetary Prince with its lead organizers you know by many names such as the Council of Ten. I am Van and I have other names as well in your history. but I prefer Van. My lieutenant was a native of the planet, modified to work on my staff. And his name is Amadon. Amadon. And he and I served on this planet between administrations for well over 250,000 years.

I am with you today roughly 35,000 years to 40,000 years later after I left my planetary assignment here in the completion of its service, handing off the baton of planetary administration to the Material Son and Daughter known as an Adam and Eve who also go by that name and you're hit by name of Adam and Eve and they established the garden. And their mission was a biological upliftment, but also this additional burden of what entailed those 250,000 years, we'll refer to a quarter million years of time, which were essentially a time of quarantine and a time of universe conflict that is, in many respects, being resolved even today. However, the universe quarantine mentioned earlier was able to be reinstituted, reestablished, because the infamous universe court case of Gabriel versus Lucifer had been legally adjudicated. This allowed for certain steps to be taken, one of which is the reestablishment of spiritual circuits which allowed for an interchange of personnel of all spiritual orders and kinds and areas of space and areas outside of time and space to broadcast to the universe and for you to receive and for personnel to establish travel protocol. But most importantly, is a working out of an embedded rebellion governance, which includes this conflict of two competing spiritual governments and their coinciding material applications resulting from spiritual governments. One of original universe government, which I hail from, and during a rebellion times, I was the primary representative of original, you could say loyal universe government, which is created and ruled by Paradise Sons. Our Lord is synonymous with a Paradise Son.

As Jesus, He bestowed Himself in His seventh bestowal by that time, but his only bestowal as a human. He descended each time and by the seventh time reached the status of the lowliest, running the ladder of spiritual beings in the order of sons of God which I belong to. I am of the same order of being, albeit more advanced in my ascension and my service. So, I'm trying to explain to you where you are in current events. And I say and mention Michael, who bestowed himself in the life as Jesus. He became the Christ because he completed his bestowal mission as Michael. He became the Christ in the unification of understanding who and what he was as not just a mere human being, but as the bestowed son of the very creator of this local universe, the Paradise Son Michael. And the local universe is Nebadon. And so the title Michael of Nebadon is synonymous when we say, the bestowal of Jesus, the son of man with a capital S is Michael. The son of man with a lowercase s is Jesus. When we talk about those times in the successful mission of revealing the Father, which is that Divine Spark mentioned earlier. The Divine Spark is the pre-personal aspect of yourself, but it is the unerring guiding voice of the highest source of spiritual essence that the universe provides and therefore is the Universal Father and source of us all. But the mystery and grandness of the universe and this whole ascension scheme which the rebels really rebelled against and spoiled to say the least is this magnificent asset that is within you. And the word pre-personal need not be confusing, because what that really means is the fusion process in your own experience, eventually gives the voice of this source your own voice. The Father ministers you as an honoring, guiding voice in your free will decisions. However, it does not dictate what you do. It merely provides you the highest source of spiritual, well, let's just call it truth, beauty and goodness and sugar and spice and everything nice. But understand it is often looked for in very serious and meaningful moments in your life.
And when you feel you have no strength or when you have no hope, the mirror a jargon sometimes of say truth, beauty and goodness will not serve you, but what will serve you is the inner tuning in to that resource within you. Resource is a good term because there is no limits to the source within you. You can reuse it time and time again to the point where fusion and this voice of yourself and this process of tuning in to the Father's will, become so part of you, you literally fuse and become one with it. And this is one of your first major accomplishments in your Ascension career. It has happened a few times on this planet, but very rare. And that would be the Chariot of Fire with Ezekiel and in more modern times, others. We will not mention for sake of today. However, what's outlined is that in this goal of collective ascension, as each individual over generation and generation, and you could say in planetary terms, as this becomes more common, you might have in your wildest dreams of science fiction a planet far away today which is under light and life and those experiences of fusion begin to replace the process of death itself. Such is the potential of a planet's evolution to the point that it's not assisted death, but it is a graduation ascension.

Now if you are lucky enough to live long enough, the body eventually wears out to the point where death in some regards, at least in body form, is looked forward to given the promise of a renewed morontial body. And morontial is the word for the quasi-physical spiritual form in a phase transition between material and fully spirit. It's a phase transition word, morontia. And if you are facing death at old age, you welcome this revitalization upon resurrection into your new Morontial body and you might have the wisdom to understand and feel the faith that death is not to be totally feared. But everyone does in their minds fear death for it is all that you know. And you need to have some sort of faith because you don't truly understand your resurrection until it happens. But we say unto you through our ministry, through revelation, and frankly through transmission now trying to plainly say without giving you the direct experience that it is real.

Now, in contrast, the Rebellion sophistry simply states that you are a soul inherently alive and rebirthing through this soul mechanism and that it is, that is who you really are. And so that's totally different than what I'm explaining to you, and that you're this embryo of an origin's personality on a planet with a destiny of ascension. Ascension is not reincarnation. Ascension has a core component of you and what you are, which we'll just summarize as your personality, the divine spark of God, which as you become more and more attuned with it, would actually be expressed in your own voice to you until you are speaking with that voice outwardly and your outward expression becomes God-like, and your soul because the soul is what gets built around your actual experience while living now.

So the consequence of living is your soul building. The risks of that entail being unqualified by soul strength and soul capability that you built a soul to withstand the rigors of resurrection and continuing on and free will at that point still respects your ability to decide whether you wish to do that. Now in addition to these things would be the environment that we've referred to as spiritual circuits. That could be the ecosystem or ecology of planetary or mind or environment circuits, literally establishing themselves to interact with their mind, which you could extend to aspects of mind to include even the cells of your body which contribute you are an organism with a mind and therefore at some level there's a unity to it all. That's the aspect of the holographic concept of both mind and time and space as having its origins to the creator of such a holographic universe that's encircuited with mind and spirit. Spirit is where you ultimately are real. Spirit is what can become eternalized and immortal.
Becoming a cosmic citizen means that you phase from material to spiritual. You can fuse with the source of pure spirit before that actually happens. All that does is guarantee your phase transition. You would be guaranteed the phase transition. And you can guarantee your eternity and immortality here now in your lifetimes. That is the individual contribution you can give to the highest source in the universe, which has indwelled itself, himself, within you. There are spiritual circuits and deities of levels in between that could represent the mother that can represent a female. These are very intertwined and there is no such thing as a truly genderfied universe other than what you find in nature. But you could see that there are qualities that would reflect and express themselves as gender. But the universe, when it deals with its non-binary genderification, which seems so important on this planet at this time, is that we might attribute a positive or a negative polarity, if you will. That's better to think about. When you want gender neutrality, you can think of polarities. The importance of this subject with spiritual circuits relates to everything I'm talking about with you today. And this is Van, Van, who is very experienced with your planet, not just during the time I lived here, but also during the off-planet service of continuing universe government and the policies around rectifying what's happened in universe rebellion and frankly continuing the assertion of universe, original universe government in the face of an entrenched rebellion government still here on this planet.

And so I say unto you, major events have created major ecological changes in the spiritual economy of the planet. And one promised event would be the promised return of Jesus, which is something a Bestowal Son has never done before, and all other such similar events with other Creator sons in other parts of the master universe, the grand universe. Another major event would be the planetary phase transitions, which would be events such as the occurrence of a Planetary Prince or the occurrence of Adam and Eve planet. These would be called epochal. When epochal revelation happens, usually that coincides with a major shift in spiritual ecology and economy. When you have the word majesty and magisterial, this foreshadows such an event. These types of bestowals happen by Paradise Sons as well and therefore hail from a high source of deity, not God himself, but a phased form of deity that would include the Father and Son and Spirit, recognized as the Paradise Trinity. And geographically, the time and space universes gravitate in space respiration around the home of not only the Father but the Paradise Deity, the Paradise Trinity. These Paradise Sons find their origin in such a deity and create the universes. But the Magisterial Sons are not the Creator Sons. However, they work with the Creator Sons to bestow themselves to planets such as ours and every planet with humans is designed to receive such sons at certain stages of their planetary development. Incidentally, such development coincides with the levels of biology, technology, and spiritual maturity, or spiritual status, material status, technological status. If one is out of balance with the other, you might have not epochal events, but you might have missions which would seek to provide or pull one of these levers up or down, left or right, whatever it gets so that the planet and population therefore becomes eligible for the next phase of the Epochal Revelation.

The early phases are designed to get you to one stage or another. And so when we say Adam and Eve, Material Sons and Daughters arrived 35,000 to 40,000 years ago. And at that point, I completed my mission. But the planet was deemed to be in the next stage, finally that they could receive them. Those were harrowing days of planetary quarantine where I prepared for that day and I was in effect the leader trying to maintain the light of original universe government on the planet to the point it could receive the Material Son and Daughter, and that created a new phase of planetary epic. The next epic was the bestowal of Jesus. And that created an environmental effect in the spirit ecology, which affected the planet greatly and affected the literal evolution of humans.
One of the most fascinating universal subjects of humans is this fascination with the demonic mind invasion. And I tell you, in the earlier days of mankind, humankind, the mind had less assets of spiritual economy to defend itself. Not only was the human different biologically and spiritually, but it did not have the universal assets of the divine spark of God inherently indwelling the human. During those times, the human being had to be, you could say, extraordinarily seeking or worthy or asking of such a bestowal of the Universal Father into the mind and personality of a human. No, at that point humans were in their ascension careers living, then dying, then becoming resurrected, and then becoming eligible. And even more so was the planet, even if the human being was not such a person who was fatherly oriented in the trinity would become and fulfill the ranks of what the universe needed at that time which was permanent universe residents on ascension tracks, that would just leave them in different locations and ascending to different statuses within the ascension scheme. But the bestowal of Jesus, you could say changed all that with the bestowal of specific circuits that resulted in the universal bestowal of the Father within each human being. And any normal-minded human now inherently receives this gift and has this resource within them. Seek and you will find.

Now, one of the turnoffs of religion is that it gets proselytized or prostituted in the profane dealings of politics, of humankind. And this is not the case when it comes to your personal ministry of ascension and building a soul. It has no bearing. But what's fascinating is this fascination with demonic possession and the fact that what we saw as a result of this was that the human became protected, whether they knew it or not. Previous possession became impossible unless the human willfully and knowingly invited them in. Such would be the traditions of say your Dracula vampire. If you allow the demon in, invite them in. Otherwise, they cannot step through the citadel of your mind, through the door, the door which is your mind. The window to you is your mind. If you invite them in, only then are they able to penetrate into you. Certainly, things can impinge around you, but the citadel is your inner life and your inner mind at this point. This will help you in your future days. It will help you in your prayer and worship. And this inherent or very significant need now for mental health and wellness, which now includes the spirit and the body. And you could, without having to subscribe to a religion, tap into this inner source and imagine you are a citadel protected by this blue shield of energy. You could visualize it as your aura or something of an energy field around you. And this will tap into your inner source and revitalize you through the ministry of the universe and tap you into the flower of life.

Dominick
Well, thank you, Van. This is Dominick. I've been interrupted by my cat, who wishes to transmit, I guess. Anything further, Van?

Van
No, but it is this; whatever you are left with today after this light line, understand that Who you are is what you think and what you do. But mostly that you simply are a child of God. And you would do well to incorporate that into your understandings, your traditions of religion and your philosophy of life, or even your well-being of the nutrition of your mind and body. And then once you have this experience within you, are you able to outwardly express that to your fellows, your fellow brothers and sisters? But that it's also possible to come about this through different modes. No path is the same. You're all different in your individual unique selves, but collectively, you are the brotherhood, sisterhood of the planet which includes the ministry of God, which includes the Spirit, your Lord, and the Universal Father Himself, which is the source of all such things and is mysteriously given into you.

But that if you Seek this within and find it difficult to find. Another technique could be the service to another human. Not just a cause, but a service to another living human being. Yes, you could give it to animals, you could give it to an environment, but this is not the highest spiritual mind possible. And you would be simply taking a different step in the same direction. But if you wanna skip those steps, you could do the very rewarding service to another person. And then will that also build the pathway to not only enlightenment, but understanding that you are a child of God and that this resource not only protects you from evil, but seeks to guide you into the highest and best outcomes in anything you allow it to advise you on and in. And it serves you well and turns your ideal self into that ideal reality.

Thank you. I am Van and I serve you off planet today and possibly in the future you will meet me. Good day to you all.

Dominick
Thank you, Van. Is there anyone else? This is Dominick now. Is there anyone else? And thank you, Van.

Adam and Eve
Yes, this is Adam and Eve. We are together and we drew straws and Eve is speaking. She won and wishes to speak. This is Adam introducing her and she won. And the punishment is not that she speaks to you. The loser in this draw is I, Adam, who misses out on the opportunity to address you, but nonetheless, it's good to speak to you in the introduction of Eve. Eve, thank you, Adam. I am Eve, and I was that partner in crime with Adam on your planet. Now, that crime was considered a default. In other words, a crime is a transgression from the law or guidance of a mission. We had a mission.

So therefore, it was not entirely epochal in its immediate effect on a planet. But nonetheless, like Van was describing, the mission is to biologically uplift the species of the human in a genetic and biological upliftment that allows for even more spiritual functioning and higher spiritual functioning to appear. And one such example, such simple example, would be in a DNA advancement. Other things you might correlate are brain advancements, such as frontal lobes occurring that coincide roughly with our appearance. Anthropologically, sociologically, you might look at things such as art and humor, making major advances in an evolving species. And certainly, these things took off with art and culture, but also the machinations of humankind in industries and the march of civilization rapidly advanced and became globalized in the later appearances of advanced races that were evolutionarily superior and inevitably phased out.
 
Other species of human beings who nonetheless were greatly advanced for their time and like Van said were ascending. But since their literal biology did not exactly qualify them for an inherent automatic track to the father, such humans were fulfilling the universe need for something that you would qualify as permanent universe residents, local universe residents, who would not ascend on a pilgrimage so far out of their origin that they would literally spiritually ascend to realms outside of space and time, but were in fact wholly spiritual locations. I hail and I originate as does Adam from the same local origin of a local universe with our Lord and a Michael Son, Michael of Nebadon. We call our region of space and creation Nebadon. I'm on the same ascension track to paradise as you but I did not originate and I am not human.

I am a Material Son and Daughter. And we originate and reside on non-Earth planets, but this is wonderfully described as the universe administration, the worlds of universe administration, which administer to the worlds of time and space that are inhabited by humans, for example. And we all work, our purpose, our design is to aid in this grand adventure of spiritualizing time and space and becoming perfect ourselves in our divinity as well. And even though I am not originated as a human because of the default, the transgression of the law of our mission, which resulted in the crime of default. We were not convicted of rebellion, but we defaulted by succumbing to rebel methodologies which seemed to be good but nonetheless transgressed the law as the mission was defined and provided by the loyal and original universe government.

And regretfully, we did not adhere to that. And we fell from the garden. We defaulted in our mission. And Adam and I literally were convicted of a downgrade from our Material Son and Daughter status into a human being form. The blessing now is we have in our life experience now known what it is like to live as you, not just perform a mission amongst you and with you for the purpose of uplifting you, but we literally, albeit through sorrowful circumstances, have the experience of living as one of you.
We were adjusted. That is a word for this divine source that bestows itself upon a human. We were adjusted because not only were we what you could consider superhuman, because in our downgraded status, we still retain the legacy of our superhuman biology. Nonetheless, we were no longer sustained by the universe circuits that sustained us, that are summarized or known as the Tree of Life but we were adjusted not only because of our special human status. But we were adjusted because the Adjusters themselves wanted the experience. This was yet another rather unique opportunity for these mystery monitors, these divine monitors, to gain valuable experience within a unique human being.

We have since been restored to our material son and daughter status, and our adjusters are detached and have been personalized. They are not a part of our Ascension careers, Adam and Eve and they now educate and minister to less experienced Adjusters. And they take on their own missions to adjusters on planets like yours and with Adjusters that would be within yourselves. In this way, are we able to make up for and compensate what we failed to do in our missions but to wrap up my contribution, we were not in an epochal revelation. Our mission, like Van described, was to, over time, uplift the biology to a certain level that the planet could enjoy the next phase of a bestowal. By any normal means, this would have and almost always entails, except for one case in each local universe, there's one case where the bestowal is not a son of Paradise, but the Creator Son himself, bestows himself on a planet. And that would be when the Creator Son reaches the stage of the seventh bestowal in his bestowal career of completing the last necessary step of his bestowal missions himself of living the life of all his creation. And he had yet to live a life as a human. And did so as Jesus.

What I'm getting at is that was a very unique event and nonetheless did not by itself have the specific legal ramification. Ramifications, let alone the necessary legal proceeding itself. It was not a specifically legal or justice mission. It was a revelation and bestowal mission with the specific purpose of revealing what has been a central theme of today's light line, that divine spark of God, which Jesus constantly referred to as His Father in heaven, His Father. And even when Jesus knew he was also Michael, bestowing as Jesus, and knew he was both divine and mortal. He still referred to his father. And that was the specific case of his revelation and his bestowal. And so, we get to the point that a new ecology will be likely born on the planet when a Magisterial Son or magisterial Sons arrive in justice, epochal revelation and mission to the planet in this case to specifically administer the legal enforcement of the Ancients of Days decrees, citing legally with Gabriel against Lucifer. In doing so, many of the lead rebels have already lost their lives permanently. But what has not happened since then is the adherence to the rulings by those who still sustain rebellion or are so confused with universe events that they don't know what up or down is anymore and simply wish to rule locally as they wish to. And that would be classified as an insurrection.

The spirit ecology will change drastically as it did with the bestowal of Jesus. That is not up to me to define for you. I only have what I am taught and what I've seen from other planets going through to give you the hint that a profound change in your spiritual experience is and will be upon you. You are to seek and understand and know that you have this sanctuary and citadel regardless of what happens and what confusion could occur in such a planet undergoing the emergencies of multiple crises across many levels, dealing with spirit technology, biology, environment, and politics, just to name a few. And I assure you that you are in good hands when these missions communicate themselves to you in a manner that cannot be denied in your own experience.
Thank you. It was a pleasure speaking with you. Thank you for the introduction, Adam. Thank you all on this light line today. And we will talk again. Good day.

Dominick
Thank you, Eve. And thank you, Adam. And I think we're at the end of the light line. So I'm going to go to my dashboard and disturb the cat on my lap, away from the camera, and to the dashboard. And we have 309(time) and thanks for listening.

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General Discussion / Re: LUCIFER REBELLION
« on: June 29, 2024, 03:00:35 am »
Thank you Ron for your response in this thread. I quote, 

"The course was set by mid October 1985, and Lucifer was brought into the Court, not only cuffed, but tied, and in some respects pitiful to see a true, tough, Vorondadek Son, so treated."  

My perusing of the Urantia book indicates that Lucifer was a son of the Lanonandek order. I think this is a mix up if I'm not wrong. Thank you.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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Ron
All right, everybody. This is the light line for Wednesday, June 26, 2024. I'm Ron Besser, your host. We'll see how far we can get with this light line. To those who may not understand, the problems that we're having is partially due to an insurrection and partially due to our equipment not working very well at all today. I do not quite know what the problem is, but at least I'm getting through.

Michael of Nebadon
Now this. I am Michael of Nebadon. Ron doesn't have the numbers, he doesn't have the display, so we're guessing how many are here. I would guess about, oh, between 10 and 12. That is unusually low, and it's because no one is able to get in. Those of you who have gotten in have more than dialed once in most cases. In any case, Ron, we are holding a light line in the middle of quite a disaster. For those who are not able to hear well, try bringing your volume up. If you can't hear well, do the best you can. The entire reason for holding the light line today is to tell you that we are cutting the light lines after today until the planet is back to normal. Ron is having extraordinary problems. I know some of you are having trouble dialing in or getting in. That is to stop. And the rebels will pay a price.

Now this, this is not going to be a light line of any length. We're going to get in and then out without concern for the hour. Ron felt that Lemuel's place should be honored and is here to do that. Lemuel is very ill and he can't even turn the phone on to listen to this light line. We have reached the end of an era. I do not know what's going to happen to our transmitters or to Ron in particular, but he has refused to fold under the pressure of too many insurrectionists around him that he can't get any peace. They are held back by a cordon. And for the rest of the day, you're protected, Ron.

Ron
Thank you very much, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
And now this. I want to tell you the following. The cordon that is around Ron so he can broadcast is not strong enough to take much more of the rebellion. So let me unwind fastly and tell you what I have in mind. Number one, we are going to re-bring these missions back alive. We're going to resurrect what was to have been done and Ron will be here, we think, to see to it that they are done properly and in proper sequence.
 
Number two, I am Michael Nebadon. I'm on the planet today. And I have this to say to the insurrection. Get your fun in while you can, because we're going to clean house and there will be nothing left of any seraphim excluding those that the Magisterial Sons have brought to Urantia. And finally, this; We are determined to allow Ron to continue as long as he can. Today he has been hit back several times and there is nothing that we can bring to the situation other than to mention to you that his light line has gone blank and that he can't tell who is on the line with him. There are ten on the line with you, Ron.

Ron
Thank you very much, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
And now this. We're going to make this recording last a little longer. But the truth of the matter is those regular attendees cannot even get in. The cabal has drawn a frequency blank across this. And for that matter, some of you may drop and can't get back in. Don't worry about it. The next regularly scheduled light line, which is this Sunday, will be held. Don't forget that. And finally to you, Ron, the entire matter of the light line is fine. It's running. You can't tell.

Ron
No, no more. Alright, there I got it back.
 
Michael of Nebadon
And finally, this, this is Michael of Nebadon. Some of you are quite capable of getting in and not having a problem. I don't know what that means. But Ron's dashboard is highly irregular today. He can't even get a count of people. We are letting it alone for now. And for the future; there will be more activity online for all of you after Sunday. I'm expecting Ron to hold the light line on Sunday and to take care of the problem. The real situation is pretty dire. The Seraphim who have rebelled hold the planet pretty well, but we are not going to permit it to last any longer than necessary. And finally, to all of you, Ron can't tell the number, he sees gaps, and that is a problem with the phone company. Of course they would have trouble the same time we are. I am going to close this down fairly early after Machiventa Melchizedek speaks. Take it away Machiventa.

Ron
Welcome Machiventa. Go ahead please.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you, Ron. I have seen to Ron's health and nature today. He has had nothing but trouble because the cabal has doubled in size and is vicious. They know that the final meeting is going to take place between Michael and the Cabal. The Cabal, for your information, is 75 Seraphim who have taken the Urantia territory as their own. We're not going to permit it. And finally, the Melchizedeks, who are normally here to portray the honesty of the moment, cannot get in. We are going to truncate this meeting shortly. But at least you know what's going on. I have only one other bit of information, and that is that Ron's supple nature is truly tested today because they tried to kill him. He refuses to deal with it and will have nothing to do with them. The truth of the matter is the liaison forces are now here and we are again evacuating the planet. The government is shut down. The protection for Ron is up. The care for each of you is in place. Stay the course. It will get better and shortly. Ron, would you hold a light line later today?

Ron
Well, certainly, do you suggest a time?

Machiventa Melchizedek
How about 5 p.m. New York time?

Ron
Well, that's less than two hours from now.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Does that give you enough time?

Ron
No. Let's try 6 p.m. that is a little less than four hours from now.

Michael of Nebadon
Try to hold your light line at 6pm and we'll try again with more news because I'm brimming with it.

Ron
Alright Michael, I'm glad to do what you asked. Do you need more time today?

Michael of Nebadon
Yes. It's this. You've written down the schedule.

Ron
Yeah. It's 6 PM Wednesday. That's today. We're going to attempt to hold another light line, folks. I know that's terribly inconvenient to you. But we've got to get this out.

Michael of Nebadon
For now, Ron, I am pulling back. You should close the light line and be done until 6 p.m.

Ron
Alright, thank you, Michael. Machiventa, did you have anything?

Machiventa Mechizedek
No. Shut it down.

Ron
Alright everybody, that's about it for now. We're going to attempt 6 p.m. Wednesday. That's today 6 p.m. New York time to try again. I thank you for attending. My dashboard doesn't tell me numbers. It shows me people, but great big gaps. Thank you for attending, and I hope to see you later this afternoon. This is Ron Besser saying goodbye until 6 p.m. today. Thank you.
 
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Dominick
Okay, thanks for joining, those who've joined so far. It's Wednesday, June 19th, 2024. And this is Wednesday Lightline. And I'm your host today…Dominick. So, I'm thinking about a few things and I forgot even to say my name. Alright, so today we have a light line of different proportions. And then let's start with the protocol. pray to Father and we thank all of our attendees who are with you Father. We seek to know you and we seek to fraternalize your love into... Loving association with our fellow men and women, brothers and sisters. and that we in this. very turmoiled world that we furthermore that we find each other and begin to work together so that we can manifest what's good and truthful and beautiful for our planet, our culture, our civilization, our societies, and our families, not only just ourselves. Thank you. Let me take a moment to check out and see if we have an MC or someone who's looking to administer the light line from Spirit Side. So just bear with me a moment and feel free to worship or pray during this time until someone comes on.

Machiventa
This is Machiventa, welcome everyone. Today I will not be on the light line, but I do present to you, Mantutia.

Dominick
Thank you, Machiventa, and it's good to hear from you, and welcome Mantutia. I'm ready to receive you.

Mantutia
Thank you, Dominick. This is Mantutia. I am a Melchizedek. And I, for all intents and purposes, am the voice of the Urantia book. I am here with you with Dominick today and you all. And furthermore, especially to you, reading and listening down the road that I provide to you a revelation. Now this revelation entails the way the universe works and has a plan and a technique for all things related to the questions around you could say your science, your philosophy, and your religion. But above all, revelation entails religion and that is an aspect of revelation we will cover as we go down the line today. When I say go down the line, I mean to relay current events to past events. Of course, I will rely on the resource of a written revelation that has been published in the mid-20th century. But collaborated on for years prior to its publication.  What is summarized in my statement is that there is a technique, there is a technique of universe government. That technique allows for the possibility of rebellion though unfortunately. The universe that was created in the master universe you see in your telescopes, there are millions of stars and galaxies. And the borders of these contain separate universes ruled and created by different Creator sons. And we'll go today along down the line and explain some of these things that are in this book so that it helps you understand not only what's in it, but that you need not be intimidated by such a volume of written pages.

So, what's happening today is that you do have the re- repercussions of a rebellion that's still working out not only on your planet but in your universe and some of the controversy of the resolution of this has engulfed revealed aspects of cosmology that you don't necessarily understand to the point that you can integrate that in your down-to-earth beliefs. And certainly, what has been written and stagnated in static revelation in book form. So, we have light lines that are sponsored by the creator of our universe, Nebadon who has restored the technique of universe broadcasts to be received on the planet. In yesterday's light line, you learned a little bit about what we tried to term as the law of delegation as to why human beings would be tasked to provide this service of receiving universe broadcast transmissions and giving those transmissions and personalities behind them a voice. What you have in the struggle of current events is really not just the conflict of good and evil of archetypes battling over a story and legend of rebellion that is an archetype. But that you have real conflicts, real competing philosophies that are as old as your time itself when you think of time in just planetary terms. And one of the reasons that the technique of universe government has the possibility of rebellion is that when the evolutionary outcomes that ultimately and always resolve rebellion, the plans and policies and procedures resolving the rebellion do lead to and even healthier and robust working, you could say organism of universe governance. And so, our Creator Son, our Lord Michael. Michael son, a Paradise son, designed Nebadon to have as much freedom as possible, therefore has suffered the most consequences of that freedom going full sway into rebellion. These are relevant to your original stories, your origin stories of gods and angels and superhuman things. The Revelation also would explain the relationship between magic and science, religion and superstition. It is a timeline of history on a planetary scale that covers one million years ago. Literally quantifying and qualifying and registering when the first human was registered on the planet. It was a pair of male and female primates that evolved into human status. And their names were Andon and Fonta. We will touch more on that later.

Back to the techniques of universe government. There is a few papers and chapters and mentions of rebellion throughout. This is Mantutia Melchizedek, the overall, you could say, editor of this book. Paper 35, section 9 in this book is produced by archangels, for example, by the authority of Gabriel of Salvington. just to give you an idea. And Paper 35, section 9 discusses what I just talked about with the possibility and potential of universe rebellion when it comes to beings that were and are associated with the war in heaven and rebellion. These are the original rebels, but their order is not entirely rebellious. They are simply an order of being who provide and administer and execute as an executive universe governance. And these sons, Lanonandek sons, happened to be created and designed with less divinity so that they could administer and relate to creatures such as yourself. Ascending sons. And because of this, and because they also have really sovereignty within their domains, are they suspect to rebellion. Now on page 393 there's a mention of another super or another universe. This would also entail a separate Michael Son. And that Michael Son would not be named Michael of Nebadon, but Michael of Hensalon. And Hensalon is mentioned as the only other local universe that has suffered more rebellion in terms of these Lanonandek sons going, you could say, rogue. Now there is a plan and a technique and a policy and a procedure to rectify rebellion. And when that does not work, such beings that do go into rebellion essentially reject reality and go insane and are anti-life in order to sustain the rebellion. And we will quote with some things, but I just want to say this, that as one of the ultimate laws of the universe is that life is the law. You could say life is the primary law. More on that later. But essentially, rebellion rejects life in order to sustain its own sovereignty. This is the ultimate act of insane self-assertion gone wrong is that when self-assertion turns into cosmic insanity.

So, with that in mind, with that prelude over, we're going to give you a little bit of a technique to wade through the fifth epochal revelation called the Urantia book. There are probably many reasons why it's called that. The number one reason being, it's the universe name for your planet. You could say that a planet is an Earth planet or that those are synonymous, but that if they are named, they have unique names, and yours is Urantia. This would coincide with large natural monuments of nature, such as Mount Ararat, which does take some significance in your overall planetary history with the artifacts that exist around these legends of gods, angels, superhumans, and war in heaven. So, bear with the transmitter guide him through what has been programmed as today's lightline. So, there's a way of going through the book, a little bit of a pattern. It's not a conspiratorial, numerological, magical technique, but it happens to be a nifty technique. What the young people call a hack, and the older people would call a cliff note version of a way to get through the book without chronologically going through it and being bogged down by the amount of information that's in it. Now, people trained in advanced enterprises, or even children today that are memorizing vast taxonomies of beings and orders of fantasy creatures with rock-paper-scissors type gaming mechanisms. What's really going on is you're being trained by the creators of such a game who have been exposed to information similar to what's entailed in this epochal revelation. The only difference is we claim this revelation to be true in so much as it is sponsored by the factual beings who administer the government of the universe. And that this puts us squarely on the side of original universe governance. We are that which is and shall be, and that which was in newer origins. The original rebels are not original. They were, in some sense, their legacy still is, but they shall not be. The reason this is helpful to you is that your stories today conflate and mix the two between who is good and who is bad on the rebel or, you could say, empire side. But really, it's the rebels' origins of complaint is that their sovereignty is oppressed and therefore rebellion always needs an oppressor in a class that's oppressed. And that also will be covered in depth today.

So, the first way to go through the Urantia book will be outlined. Hitting in. You can first start at the forward. And you can skip the forward, and trust me, this is not a full-blown recommendation that we're saying you should skip this, you should skip that, or that this means one section of the book is better than another, or more important than the other. This is simply a technique for those new and listening to get a Cliff Notes version or a hack to get up to speed quickly without getting bogged down in what some might call the minutiae of understanding, if you look at the book chronologically. And frankly this technique is provided because human beings are so different in their approaches, which is nothing wrong, that's your personal approach, but it means that there's an infinite way of ingesting an epical, epochal revelation. And so, I'm giving you this technique to be helpful with current events.

Dominick
Yes, I'm Mantutia. I've been told to make sure to open quote and close quote, so the transcription is easier to render.

Mantutia
So, we start with the acknowledgement, which is in the forward. Acknowledgement, ,”In formulating the succeeding presentations, having to do with the portrayal of the character of the Universal Father and the nature of the Paradise Associates, together with an attempted description of the perfect central universe and encircling seven super universes, we are to be guided by the mandate the super universe rulers which directs that we shall, in all our efforts to reveal truths and coordinate essential knowledge, give preference to the highest existing human concepts pertaining to the subjects to be presented. We may resort to pure revelation only when the concept of presentation has had no adequate previous expression by the human mind. Successive planetary revelations of Divine Truth invariably embrace the highest existing concepts of spiritual values as a part of the new and enhanced coordination of planetary knowledge. Accordingly, in making these presentations about God and His universe associates, we have selected as the basis of these papers more than 100... Excuse me. more than 1,000 human concepts representing the highest and most advanced planetary knowledge of spiritual values and universe meanings. Wherein these human concepts, assembled from the God-knowing mortals of the past and present, are inadequate to portray the truth as we are directed to reveal it, we will unhesitatingly supplement them for this purpose drawing upon our superior knowledge of the reality and divinity of the Paradise Deities and their transcendent residential universe. We are fully cognizant of the difficulties of our assignment. We recognize the impossibility of fully translating the language of concepts of divinity and eternity into the symbols of the language of the finite concepts of the mortal mind. But we know that there dwells within the human mind a fragment of God, and that there sojourns within the human soul the spirit of truth. And we further know that these spirit forces conspire to enable material man to grasp the reality of spiritual values and to comprehend the philosophy of universe meanings. But even more certainly, we know that these spirits of the Divine Presence are able to assist man in the spiritual appropriation of all truth contributory to the enhancement of the ever-progressing reality of personal religious experience, God-consciousness." That is in the foreword on page 17. So that gives you a quick editorial about what you would go through. And then a little bit of a technique is to start using a number technique that's not exact. Okay? But you start at 111, then go up to 222-333-444-555. And then we have a minor hiccup in between 555 and 666, in between, which is apropos because that is the interruption of the rebellion around 606 and 607. And then we continue from 666 to 777-888-999. And whether you wish to include or how you include 1111-1111, you can also include 1011. And lastly, if you were to extrapolate that into 2222, there is no such page. It does not continue that further. But if you went to 2022, or essentially the last page of the book, it summarizes this in what is the faith of Jesus in the last paragraph. So, we've gone with page 17.

What do we have when we look around 111? We'll on page 111 is a quote, of course, and this will explain the following. The first quote, “The First Source and Center functions outside of Havona in the phenomenal universes as follows, And we interrupt this quote to simply explain that Havona is, are the perfect universes which are also outside of what we know as time and space. And the Phenomenal universes, you are synonymous with super universes, or in other words, time and space. We continue with the quote. One, as Creator, so I'm interrupting one more time.

Dominick
Thank you, Mantutia.

Mantutia Melchizedek
This is Mantutia Melchizedek. This is describing what is represented or what is representing the First source in your realms of time and space. The First Source is synonymous with God the Father, but in this quote we used first source and center. Continue. The following seven and are listed as what functions outside of First Source and center to represent the First Source. One. The First Source, you could say functions outside as “one, as creator through the Creator Sons, his grandsons, two, as Controller through the gravity center of Paradise, three, as Spirit through the Eternal Son, four, as mind through the Conjoint Creator, five, as a Father. He maintains parental contact with all creatures through his personality circuit. We interrupt this quote to put special emphasis on number five later. Six, as a person, he acts directly throughout creation by his exclusive fragments, immortal man by the Thought Adjusters. Seven, as total deity, he functions only in the Paradise Trinity.”

That gives us a little bit of foundation as we move on to 22 or 222. We have the beginning of paper 20, the Paradise Sons of God. This is also important in the origins of a rebellion story because the Paradise Sons of God are the actual entities of universe governance, of original universe governance that Lanonandek Sons who are sovereign and rule your planet, rebelled against. So, in 222 you have a quick listing of Paradise Sons of God, which we will list. Number one are the Creator Sons, the Michaels. Two, Magisterial Sons, the Avonals. Three, Trinity Teacher Sons, the Daynals. The remaining four orders of descending sonships are known as Local Universe Sons of God. This is Mantutia interrupting. The difference between the descending Sons of God, one, two, and three, are that they originate from what was just described earlier. They originate from Paradise, from the Trinity. So, when they were created, they were created by the totality of deity functioning as the Paradise Trinity. Whereas these four remaining Paradise Sons of God, even though they're local, are classified as Descenders. In other words, they're not on an Ascension scheme. They are part of the universe structure of governance, which includes the Ascension scheme. But in doing so, they work with you by descending, not ascending. They are created in degrees of perfection and divinity. With lesser and lesser degree to the point that the local ones have the possibility of rebellion. We continue. The remaining four orders of descending sonship are known as Local Universe Sons of God. By rank, they continue. Four, Melchizedek Sons. I, Mantutia, am of this order. Machiventa, who opened the light line, is of this order. Five, Vorondadek Sons. Six, Lanonandek Sons. Seven, Life Carriers.” that ends our association with 222 and we close the quote.

We're no longer quoting. We will simply go to 333. And around 333 is not an exact match you could say, but here is where you can skip to the Grand Universe, which is these universes including space and time, of which there are revealed to be seven, rotating around the gravity Isle of Paradise. Anything outside of the Super Universes of time and space are classified as outer space. You roughly see this in your telescopes when you look inward and see a vast number of stars and galaxies, and you look outward and you see vast empty space and forming of space. That would give you a rough idea. And so, on paper 30, starting on 330, and also going through to 338 would be what would be called a taxonomy or a classification of organization of all types of beings. And so, this would include. your near gods, those who you would classify as the gods descending onto man, and the angels and super humans around them, and all of your legend and lore and history. And here you have literally this taxonomy listed out in terms of a classification of living beings and what they're registered as, as an order of personalities. So just as an example, you have Paradise Deities and descending Sons of God and ascending Sons of God. But there is more classifications of being related to the Paradise Trinity, related to the First Source. And when it acts and administers anywhere in time and space, it functions as the Paradise Trinity and all living beings and all personalities, whether they be in material or spirit form, derive or are originated from the Paradise Trinity. As an aside, the Lanonandek Sons, as Local Universe Sons, are created locally. They know no origin other than their creator father is the Michael son of the universe and the divine of the Infinite Spirit who is always the associate of a Michael Son. So that gives you another quick way and a reference material to constantly go back and understand when things are being named and orders of beings are being revealed. Sometimes this could be intimidating, but you have a resource that's been provided.

We move on to 444. And again, there's no exact match here, but you do have a pattern of paper 40 on 443, which begins to go in detail about what the ascending Sons of God are, of which you are in this classification. You are an ascending Son of God. But you are also mortal, and so recall that you contain a fragment of the First Source. And that is how the Father becomes a personalized, not just a source, but can represent Himself in the universe through what is otherwise considered the lowest rung of the ladder in the universe hierarchy of beings. Why you might consider yourself worthy of being ministered to or answer the question If we're such lowly beings, why are we so important in the eyes of the universe? And this would be one good reason why you are. So, in 444, you have the explanation of what we have talked about in earlier light lines of the purpose of ascension, which is fusion, and outlining what you are fusing with and where you are going.

Moving on to 555. You would find yourself in the middle of what's called morontia life. Morontia. M-O-R-O-N-T-I-A. Morontia. In English, this is in no way an association with the term moron. Although you could laugh, we permit that. But morontia is a word which essentially could replace the word metaphysical, because morontia is the real word we use, vocabulary, for that which bridges the material to the spirit. It is a quasi-spiritual material combination, which in science would call this the phase transition between becoming purely material to phasing into purely spiritual. Ultimately, fusion is this process, but along the way, you increasingly become less material and more morontialized to the point that you become spirit. And 555 puts you squarely in this phase transition, but ultimately starts to answer your basic questions about what immediately happens in life after death and it is the Morontia life and the many mansions which have been built and frankly discussed about in the life of Jesus when he mentioned that his Father, our Father, has built many mansions for us. And just as an aside, the mansion worlds are not always fixed as a square, as a number. You have revealed in a static snapshot what the morontia worlds were organized as for strictly human ascension. But it is also revealed and talked about that on the universe capital of Nebadon, there are essentially 56 worlds devoted to this morontial phase transition on the way to cosmic citizenship. So updated revelation would simply acknowledge the next snapshot or the next adjustment that happens in the universe.

Now as an aside, and this will not be a direct quote. Your ascension, which graduates you outside of Nebadon and on the way to Father in Paradise, graduates you into what is called an Finaliter status, in that you have reached the ascension point of achieving not just fusion with the First Source, but that you have attained the Father where He resides on Paradise. But recall that such a source, a universal source, only functions in time and space as Paradise Trinity. So, when these sentient beings that you are eligible to be attain the Father and attain this ascension pilgrimage, they return to universe service as an end course of finality, as Finaliters. Interestingly enough, they begin to populate the Morontia worlds and be headquartered there. And ultimately this leads to planets that become settled in light and life and graduate the mortals on that realm directly to a spiritual phase status that requires the Morontia worlds less and less. But as this happens, the compensation is that it becomes filled to its full capacity and begins to evolve in its performance function to headquarter Finaliters instead. It would be interesting to note that such Finaliters, even in beginning status, remained 100% loyal in the rebellion. And that furthermore, the arch rebels in their manifesto, one of their main contentions is upon this ascension scheme, which will be clarified later. And certainly, this is a threat. But understand the rebels not only don't care about your ascension, they just relegate it to an inherent function. Thus does the rebel simply disregard the significance of ascension and simply claim that it is inherent anyway. And so you get this false sense of immortality from the rebel. But ultimately the rebel declared that the host, the product of such an ascension scheme was a danger to local sovereignty.

So now we will move on to that episode, we can't just go to 666 because this technique literally gets interrupted by rebellion. Similarly, in your timeline, which we mentioned starts at one million years ago, universe governance began to appear on your planet, the normal technique of universe government of divinely appearing Spirits and Sons. A period, you could say half a million years ago. And it continued at a normal technique up until the point of a timeline rebellion, which you could put at quarter of a million years ago. That would be 250,000. So the timeline of this interruption that would be page 606 or kind of the midway point between 555 and 666. Happens on your timeline in planetary history around a quarter of a million years ago and interrupts the normal technique of universe government. What happens when we get to page 606, which incidentally is the serial number of your planet, 606? This would be paper 53, and you would run into section seven, history of the rebellion. So, this technique of skimming through sections based on what I'm telling you would put you now a little bit of an interruption, which is appropriate for the lesson of rebellion on your planet and in the, frankly, the universe that it's in, of Nebadon. But that also neighboring universes with other Paradise Creator Sons, Michael sons, have also experienced rebellion. Specifically named is the universe Henselon on page 393. And when we discuss the concept of dominion in something that's developed in the post-developments, you could say current events of what's happened after this revelation was published is that when these universes that have suffered rebellion combined together to coordinate because of the loss of personnel, which I have explained either get adjudicated because they will not receive rectification and mercy, literally choose not to go on just as you have the right not to go on. Except their right to go on is either snuffed out by the law of life that is executed literally, by the ancients of days.

But what you have and we're going off the book here. We're going away from the book for the moment. But let us look at rebellion on your planet today. There is ultimate confusion, and confusion is a technique of the rebel. In this manner does your education get interrupted as generation to generation, the technique of confusion uses the conflating or mixing up of the naming and understanding of ultimately who the rebels are and who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. But the common theme of the rebel will constantly be exposed if you know, A, that there is a standard universe technique by the creators of the universe and there is a standard narrative of anyone who rebels against that technique, which is a paradigm that does not truly exist in the universe. And that paradigm of the rebel is oppressor and the oppressed, which is a sophistry technique to sustain their rebellion, which ultimately sustains their sovereignty, which they think they have a right to. And if you read paper 35, you would understand why they were created this way and furthermore how they administer to the point that they could convince themselves that rebellion was ultimately in their best interest or even your best interest.  But this is not the case.

However, rebellion does, when it is rectified, strengthen the local universe that experienced it. But the first way of redemption and the way out of a quagmire of confusion, sorrow and pain and suffering on the planet would be to understand these basic premises of the oldest stories that literally are in your genetic code to the extent that they were literally experienced by your ancestors. And so there is this legacy of genetic confusion literally passed down starting 250,000 years ago but also in the genetic code had mixed from half a million years ago. And then another half million before that in pure evolution. And that would get into what you could call the purely evolutionary religion time of man and woman on your planet. For there was no technique presented to you yet. There, during that first half million years, is the purely evolutionary aspect of your developed religion, which would entail essentially the human need of cause and effect, observation and correlation, explanation for discovery, and so on and so forth. Together with the appearance of what would be considered gods and superhumans and classified as angels when that vocabulary was given, as anything unknown and unseen to have cause and effect anyway or a interaction with consciousness. So here we are today where in current events there is much confusion on who are the good guys and the bad guys, the original sinners, and who has a right to this and that, and which way forward is the best way to reach the best outcomes. And so the way to go about doing this is thoroughly confused with the governance of confusion and rebellion by the arch rebels together with an admixed attempt by the universe itself to continue going with standard technique of universe governance in the face of this rebellion. So in ascension, for example, this is happening anyway. The rebel says, well, it's happening anyway. It's inherent. Well, what is the universe supposed to do? Stop ascending you because of your superiors rebelling? We're not going to do that.

So we're going to go back to this, but first let's just go with the three main points on the record, which is Paper 53, page 603 which we label as the Lucifer Manifesto but which the arch rebels labeled and titled as the Lucifer Declaration of Liberty. There are three contentions. One, the reality of the Universal Father. Two, the universe government of the Creator Son, Michael. And three, the attack upon the universal plan of ascendant mortal training. So now you see what we've covered prior to this can make more sense to you when we read the contentions and how damning they are to the confusion on your planet already. We will,

1, “The reality of the Universal Father. Lucifer charged that the Universal Father did not really exist, that physical gravity and space energy were inherent in the universe, and that the Father was a myth invented by the Paradise Sons to enable them to maintain the rule of the universes in the Father's name. He denied that personality was a gift of the Universal Father. He even intimated that the Finaliters were in collusion with the Paradise Sons to foist fraud upon all creation since they never brought back a very clear-cut idea of Father's actual personality, as is discernible on Paradise. He traded on reverence as ignorance. The charge was sweeping, terrible, and blasphemous. It was this veiled attack upon the Finaliters that no doubt influenced the ascendant citizens then on Jerusalem to stand firm and remain steadfast in resistance to all the rebels' proposals.”

2, “The universe government of the creator son Michael. Lucifer contended that the local systems should be autonomous. He protested against the right of Michael, the Creator Son, to assume sovereignty of Nebadon in the name of a hypothetical Paradise Father and require all personalities to acknowledge allegiance to this unseen father. He asserted that the whole plan of worship was clever scheme to aggrandize the Paradise Sons. He was willing to acknowledge Michael as his creator father, but not as his god and rightful ruler. Most bitterly did he attack the right of the Ancients of Days, foreign potentates, to interfere in the affairs of the local systems and universes. These rulers he denounced as tyrants and usurpers. He exhorted his followers to believe that none of these rulers could do ought to interfere with the operation of complete home rule if men and angels only had the courage to assert themselves and boldly claim their rights. He contended that the executioners of the Ancients of Days could be debarred from functioning in the local systems if the native beings would only assert their independence. He maintained that immortality was inherent in the system personalities, that resurrection was natural and automatic, and that all beings would live eternally, except for the arbitrary and unjust acts of the executioners of the Ancients of Days.” close quote on section two of that manifesto. And finally, section

3, “The attack upon the universal plan of ascendant mortal training. Lucifer maintained that far too much time and energy were expended upon the scheme of so thoroughly training ascending mortals in the principles of universe administration, principles which he alleged were unethical and unsound. He protested against the age-long program of preparing the mortals of space for some unknown destiny and pointed to the presence of the Finaliter corps on Jerusalem as proof that these mortals had spent ages of preparation for some destiny of pure fiction. With derision, he pointed out that the Finaliters had encountered a destiny no more glorious than to be returned to humble spheres similar to those of their origin. He intimated that they had been debouched by over much discipline and prolonged training, and that they were in reality traitors to their mortal fellows, since they were now cooperating with the scheme of enslaving all creation to the fictions of a mythical eternal destiny of ascending mortals. He advocated that ascenders should enjoy the liberty of individual self-determination. This is not part of the quote but that is do as thy wilt do as thou wilt Continuing; he challenged and condemned the entire plan of mortal ascension as sponsored by the Paradise Sons of God and supported by the Infinite Spirit. And it was with such a declaration of liberty that Lucifer launched his orgy of darkness and death."
So there you have it, if you can reverse engineer. The ideologies of today. You can find fault in all of them, and you could probably correct what's good in them by pivoting what is revealed as the standard technique of universe governance which and whose law is life and correct and rectify anything that is antithetical to it, to life. But that the narrative of liberty has apparently two sides to it. One, the universe has represented and revealed when we went back to page 111 as first revealed or represented through the Creator Sons, the Michaels. And as we relate to you in this manifesto, even the rebels understand the Paradise Sons and the Infinite Spirit and what they blaspheme against is the Universal Father and essentially tell you the Paradise Deity is a fiction of enslavement. Understand your ascension takes yourself outside of that local jurisdiction, which the rebel wishes to have complete sovereignty and liberty in, and resents the ascending mortal returning and is a threat. And so therefore does the rebel not only be indifferent to your ascension by dismissing it as inherent, but thus has a vested interest in not only confusing you but denying you your ascension, especially those who would be powerful representatives in their mortal careers and returning Finaliter status. And so the rebel has had to turn to the instrument of murder and death and less from the righteousness of its error of rebellion that it is convinced is good. And left unchecked morphs into the iniquity of murder and becomes insane through its breakage of one of the most primal laws that the universe is based in life.

So just as a current events example, let's examine, you could say, the quagmire of status that the planet is currently in. If you think there is a creative stagnation, you're onto something. But let's just go into some other things to take hold of and run with. As a creative person is to know some of these stories behind the rebellion. Stories of your ancestors, stories of other angels and superhumans who have had to react within this political drama saga of epic proportions that frankly you are a part of, even now. But if you go to page 607, section seven, the history of the rebellion. This particular section is not only for the creatives out there and the storytellers, but the women who could use a good inspiration and a good story. So many times is one of the confusion contentions of normal universe structure accused by a rebellion doctrine of being oppressive and that word in modern times has been labeled patriarchy or something like that and we just want to give you this story of a brave woman loyal during the rebellion that happens to be on a different planet altogether but a sister planet nonetheless in the future of missions to planets rebel torn planets and therefore is galactic in its proportion. We quote, “The Lucifer rebellion was system wide. Thirty-seven succeeding Planetary Princes swung their world administrations, largely to the side of the arch rebel. Only on Panoptia did the Planetary Prince fail to carry his people with him. On this world, under the guidance of the Melchizedeks, the people rallied to the support of Michael. Ellanora, a young woman of that mortal realm, grasped the leadership of the human races and not a single soul on that strife-torn world enlisted under the Lucifer banner. And ever since have these loyal Panoptians served on the seventh Jerusalem transition world as the caretakers and builders of the Father's sphere and its surrounding seven detention worlds.” But certainly, anyone who's discontent with the ever-shifting cultural revolutions and disruptions of classical canons that respect the saga of primal stories of this struggle of rebellion in the universe. You now are equipped with a real articulation of your weariness or dissatisfaction with what would be considered falsehood and twisting of truth. And furthermore, you have the inspiration of epic proportions of a woman who took an entire planet and all the races within that planet and remained loyal in the face of evil of rebellion. That's a story worth producing. Ellanora of Panoptia. And so that for now ends our interruption of the rebellion.

And we move on to 777 through the book, the Urantia book. And this is Mantutia sponsoring this transmission as I sponsored all of the papers as chief editor of the book. I am a Melchizedek. And now you know who I am personally as Mantutia and where I come from and what I am as a Melchizedek. Moving on to 777. And here you will find the middle papers of the history of your planet and all of its institutions that evolved with this intermingling of evolution and revelation. But in particular, we go back to Andon and Fonta. And the fact that one of the things that classified Andon and Fonta as the first human beings was the use of their mind and the use of your mind ultimately is the bridge to Spirit and furthermore that the mind is the gateway to discovery and invention. And on that note, we will relate section six of this paper 69, section six, titled Fire in Relation to Civilization. “Primitive society with its four divisions, industrial, regulative, religious and military, rose through the instrumentality of fire, animals, slaves and property. Fire building by a single bound, forever separated man from animal. It is the basic human invention or discovery. Fire enabled man to stay on the ground at night as all animals are afraid of it. Fire encouraged eventide social intercourse. It not only protected against cold and wild beasts, but it also employed as security against ghosts. It was at first used more for light than heat. Many backward tribes refused to sleep unless a flame burns all night. Fire was a great civilizer, providing man with the first means of being altruistic without loss by enabling him to give live coals to a neighbor without depriving himself. The household fire, which was attended by the mother or eldest daughter, was the first educator, requiring watchfulness and dependability. The early home was not a building, but a family gathered about the fire, the family hearth. When a son founded a new home, he carried a firebrand from the family hearth. Though Andon, the Discoverer of Fire, avoided treating it as an object of worship. Many of his descendants regarded the flame as a fetish or as a spirit." And we close the quote there in mid-paragraph. And we thank Andon for your discovery. And that would be roughly one million years ago.

Moving on to 888 you would run into what's culminating in more modern and frankly skipping an epic that need not be skipped of the garden eras of Adam and Eve. But nonetheless, if you were to skip to 888, you would get into more of an archeological and anthropological discussion of the ramifications of those epics of the garden. And their biological repercussions on the migrations and conquering of the Andite expansion throughout the globe. And the Andites would be a race of humans or a race within a species of humans, right? Would be an amalgamation of the legacy of superhuman remnants and of course native biological remnants of all the races. So those would be an amalgamation of native races, which seem to have split off into a diverse mixture of six separate races only to be later influenced by the rebellion and the fallen ones who began procreating with the races those superhumans and then later the other you could say superhuman biology of the Violet races as we covered those you could say gods of that what's known as like the Anunnaki pantheon are really Adam and Eve arriving as Material Sons and Daughters is what they're classified as and why they're superhuman, but also why they are ascending sons of God and what their role is in standard universe techniques of government and their role and planetary development for the evolution of humans and planets.

If we move on to 999, you would find now a more intense discussion on what I talked about earlier in the light line, which is evolutionary religion and the evolution of prayer and religion in that book. Excuse me. In the book at 999 you would have that. And then furthermore, if you skipped to 1111, after 999, you would see the distinction of revelation even further. We discuss how you have three, you could say pillars of truth finding, we describe as philosophy, science, and religion. But it is only religion that has this technique of both what you come to on your own and what gets revealed to you in the technique of universe governance, which entails revelation. And one easy way to think about revelation is it's a great time saver. Without revelation, you would spend much more time evolving to your ideals. I'm being asked a question by the transmitter, and we do acknowledge that in modern times, in these yet special circumstances of planetary status, of essentially dealing with a very advanced planet and very backwards spiritual development, there has been an exception to this general rule of revelation pertaining to religion in the universe technique of governing, which now has included the pillar of science. Really never will it appeal to revelation of philosophy, as philosophy is a method of coming to a way of living life and behaving in the world using religion and science together. It attempts to be the umbrella amalgamation of the meaning of life and how to live it. So we're nearing the end.

But the benefits of going through this is that when you finally get to what we discuss as the evolution of prayer and religion and then also reveal why religion or why there is revelation, that you can begin to now be armed with a personal method of proof. You have a technique and an explanation of whereby to experience God consciousness in a self-proof way and understanding that you even experienced it. Of a personal method and then it culminates in the life and teachings of Jesus and ends, verily, in the end of explaining to you the faith of Jesus as the Son of God at the very last paragraph. And likewise you should be armed dealing with light lines or your religious journey, philosophical and scientific journey to God consciousness. That you should not be confused. Not only do you have to fight being confused by rebellion, but you have to prove this to yourself. And you have a great model and revelator in the life of Jesus as a Son of God and the Son of Man. We end with this quote. Quote, “The great challenge of modern man is to achieve better communication with the divine monitor that dwells within the human mind. Man's greatest adventure in the flesh consists in the well-balanced and sane effort to advance the borders of self-consciousness out through the dim realms of embryonic soul consciousness in a wholehearted effort to reach the borderland of Spirit Consciousness. Contact with the Divine Presence. Such an experience constitutes God-consciousness, an experience mightily confirmative of the pre-existent truth of the religious experience of knowing God. Such spirit consciousness is the equivalent of the knowledge of the actuality of sonship with God. Otherwise, the assurance of sonship is the experience of faith. And God-consciousness is equivalent to the integration of the Self with the universe and on its highest levels of spiritual reality. Only the spirit content of any value is imperishable. If man does not choose to survive, then does the surviving adjuster conserve those realities born of love and nurtured in service. And all these things are part of the Universal Father. The Father is living love, and this life of the Father is in His sons. And the spirit of the Father is in His sons' sons, mortal men. When all is said and done, the Father idea is still the highest human concept of God.” And we end this, and we thank you for listening.

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  • 061824 Audio Tape Tuesday Light Line USA; Host: Dominick
  • Subjects:-Difference between Transmission & Channeling; -Memo of Cooperation; - The Law of cooperation; -From rebellion to Cosmic insanity; -Brief History of rebellion; -Don’t get caught up in politics of the day, in their worst they tend to represent ideologies of rebellion that is to say non-cooperation & destruction.
  • Speakers: Machiventa Melchizedek
  • Transcribed By: Moses Ouko
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240618_110045
Dominick
Hello everyone, it's Tuesday Lightline, June 18th. For those of you joining on video, you'll see outdoors and you'll see my cat. And hopefully everyone else can hear my voice quite clearly. Okay, just had to mute the internet caller there, no worries. Okay, so starting over, it's June 18th, Tuesday Lightline, and we've had a series of lightlines and they shall continue. And just as a note, check in for Wednesday's light line. We've announced that Lemuel is taking a well-deserved rest from the whole ordeal so he can really rest up after a gauntlet of medical procedures over the last year. And we wish you well, Lemuel. And everything to get better. And if you never come back, we really thank you for all the time that you've given us. And that's regardless of whether you're in death or in life. If you're retired from Light Lines, we welcome you back anytime. And we wish you a speedy return to health. And likewise, for everyone else. We wish the same for everyone else. We pray to Father for a good light line, clean circuits and that truth prevail.  And that good come out of these light lines, and that that good grows, and grows, and reaches as many people, and changes people for good, and growth on their path to knowing you, Father. Thank you. All right, so I'm trying to remember the procedure. Is there anyone who I can receive today on the lightline?

Machiventa Melchizedek
Yes, there is. This is Machiventa. We wish to give a quick prelude to what the words of this transmitter have tried to convey as a bumper for light lines. For those unfamiliar with the word bumper; It is simply something that consistently is advertised, sloganized, or explained as an identifying or explanation phrase or sentence or even a piece of music that would come at the beginning and end of the program. That's certainly light lines are. So, this is Machiventa urging the transmitter to connect. Light lines for those listening and for those possibly new, are not what you would consider from the past connections to the spirit world. Connected with the word channeling. If ever the word is used in the context of a light line, it is a down step so that you are bridged to the new concepts relating to restored and newly established spiritual circuits of communication to the planet. If you ever have a question about this, freely ask and there should always be an explanation. We cannot meet you where you are at all the time. You will eventually have to understand what channeling was and what it is not, and differentiate between what was known as channeling and what is the future of spirit communication, known as transmission. The current state of channeling has been studied through watching, studied by this transmitter, and then shared to Ron, who you could say is one of the primary transmitters, certainly in sponsoring this program and producing it. That the current state of the word channeling encompasses many things beyond just the narrow scope of spirit communication. And the state of the word now encompasses things dealing with psychological and energetic systems not fully comprehended or defined by science, but nonetheless being approached scientifically and since there's no vocabulary in their arsenal of words and meanings and understanding of what spirit is, therefore has channeling taken on all of these things to the point that it is watered down.
What transmission is, is a similarly utilized function of the human consciousness, which is now better understood in many different terms. You can look at brainwaves, you can look at psychological constructs of psychology, you can look at neuroscience, biology, energy measurements of electric signals, chemical signals and so on and so forth. And yet, science will never fully reach the explanation of spirit contact. Perhaps only the observation, and by stating observation, that is one of the oldest scientific methods on the planet, is observation. Beyond that, there is the cementing testimony of personal experience and repeated personal experiences which eventually bolsters into a confidence of faith and then a general understanding of no longer questioning whether spirit is real. There is a certainty that it is. At that point you are essentially, one of the advanced, or you could say evolved, advanced could mean a simple progression. You've progressed to a state of spiritual status. In this regard, are you quantifiably known by spirit in ways that we must reveal to you and that you cannot measure, but by qualitative measures. But in general, those qualities are quantifiable in your environment as what we define as cooperative attitudes, cooperative behavior. And what happens over time is cooperation becomes somewhat standardized and culture aims to propagate and educate the new generations into that culture of what has worked for cooperative coexistence, which is necessary to profit from your environment. Now, thank you for listening. This is Machiventa.

We are in full steam. This morning. We gave what's called a memo of cooperation. And we simply define this in a few, in three things. What does cooperation involve? Now, this is not comprehensive. If you think of something that's different or similar or a better word, the chances are it probably fits somewhere in the subject matter we're about to provide. And that is three things you could say involving cooperation. And that is there's some sort of exchange, there's some sort of communication and there's some sort of travel or motion. So one, in no particular order, this is not… But one is exchange, two is communication, and three is travel, or better put, freedom of motion. Now, what's non-cooperation look like? What are some of the opposites of that? With exchange, the opposite of non-cooperation might turn into a monopoly, a monopoly of power and authority over the exchange to the point of monopoly. Non-cooperation with communication has much to do with intent. And so, one example of communication is insincere communication. And that would be feigning communication as expressing one intent but secretly having a different intent. And this would be, say, a common petty human behavior of intelligence gathering like gossip for the sake of bad mouthing or stuff like that. I lost it Machiventa. I don't know where to go. Frankly, I don't want to go there. But intelligence gathering and intent go towards the opposite of cooperative intent of communication. And travel in motion for cooperation, the opposite of that for non-cooperation would be confinement, especially confinement of citizens in good standing. Now, when you are a citizen in the spiritual sense, and we define that as in the real sense, once you are a cosmic citizen. The only things that restrict you from travel are things that are unattainable or sealed off to you because they're of no use to you and held as secrets of higher spirit and deity. So those would be things regarding a memo of cooperation. And so a memo of cooperation is meant to be viewed as the basis of unity. If you have no baseline experience of foundation of anything cooperative and then are you too early to call for unity or drape yourself in the flag and moral high ground of  it, And so when you do call for unity or claim to be unified, therefore must there be a clear understanding by those who all should feel unified of an understanding of how to cooperate. And so, there's a thing called a memo of understanding in say the business world. And therefore, are we communicating to you a memo of cooperation. And so, the magisterial missions or any missions to a planet that seek to involve humans will advocate will communicate. this memo of cooperation.

With that morning transmission came the question from the transmitter, why does God and Spirit talk through people instead of directly at people? You could think of things like the prophets, or you can come to think of the reasons in your own head, either why someone else may or may not like the burden of “profit work or spirit communication work”. All humans do it. They project motivations when they don't understand another's motivations until. They get the social proof to cement their opinion. But that is the human understanding of trial and error. When really it is about this, here was our answer and here is the Father's answer. It’s not just question as to why spirit speaks through a human. It is not just a question of modeling. It is not just social proof, although it could be those things. It doesn't tell that. However, it is best to think of it through what is known as the law of delegation.

The law of delegation
And the law of delegation is defined as the following;
The law of delegation is that which can, should, and ought to be delegated as the reward of service and training. This coincides with the universal ascension nature, that those who progress, those who evolve, typically train and teach those in lower progress, how to get and reach and attain and evolve to higher and higher spirit levels of ascension. Then also could be as mundane as learning the titles or names of different orders of beings or government that governs the wide range of beings. The law of delegation is why humans are asked to speak for God. Now God also speaks to you individually. God is in you for those who are of spiritual composition and nature. And you are designed this way to be like this and depending on your choices in the environment that you are in, you can evolve or you may even have the free will choice to reject that in which case you as an individual entity have the right to refuse ascension, to refuse personality survival. Just fully understand such a choice ends your consciousness in the future of any timeline as what you are and what you were.
The death cult of destruction currently resides on Urantia, the name of this planet, which justifies wanton destruction. Much of this stems from the possibility that there is no personal experience in the life of the mentally ill person who is really rejecting reality. Evil happens from Error. Good intentions could suffer evil consequences. Evil can be rectified because error is something that can be learned from. From there, however, evil can turn even worse… and eventually iniquity. Iniquity is the death called insanity of reality of rejection of reality of spirit altogether and the irrational desire to kill life before ending one's own. The last creative effort, albeit the inverse of creation in life itself is this warped desire to take out as much life as possible, and the absurd irony that they will contribute their resentment and disdain that led to their mental illness. Now, why do I mention this? Because it is the antithesis of cooperation. And this is an emergency warning that cooperation is less and less found in large groups on the planet. The rebellion story, the rebellion history, in fact, from where I'm from, it is myth and story and legend from your perspective. And I speak broadly on a planetary level. However, to gain non-cooperative power is something that is tangibly real in the human experience, whether or not that entails the origin of that experience, it does ultimately lead to the worship of rebellion. And the worship of rebellion is the path of cosmic insanity and is not a noble pursuit. But as the classic archetype or story, you could say the deal with the devil. In other words, forsaking God and forsaking the source of cooperation and creation. And denying that source for the sake of non-cooperative power.

Now, what's an emergency about the planet is that rather than taking a step back and saying, well, there are, we should see why we aren't exchanging, why we aren't communicating, and why we are restricting the motion of the other party or parties we need to cooperate with, and instead, accusing those parties of making a deal with the devil. And dehumanizing them to the point they are not worthy of the world construct that the other wishes to live in. It's an emergency because these experiences have reached from the highest Institutions down to the dinner table of the family. The whole world experienced restriction of movement during COVID. Communication is disrupted and cheap. And complicated with technology, dehumanized, automated and the biological function and reciprocation of human interaction is now to the point that children have been warned, unlike a cigarette package, that such communication is a danger to their health. Too little too late. I agree, for a whole generation. And exchange is still dealing with the Classics of state, a nation state geopolitics of resources just as the chimps of the world and giraffes fight with the lions, tigers, and bears over the watering holes. Although it is a much different and complicated game, played over thousands and thousands of years. And some states have made the deal with the devil, and many states accuse each other of making a deal with the devil. And for some of you, who have asked who the cabal is, those origins of rebellion took place from the highest order of sons possible in brilliance of their executive administration, who were leaders and executives of planets and entire systems of planets, yet imperfect enough that they possessed the seeds of blasphemy and rebellion through the resentment of the authority above them such as those of my order, the Melchizedek order, which is in between them, the Lanonandek sons and Vorondadek sons, who administer, you could say, the kingdoms of man. So, war in heaven has bled to spiritual warfare and I regret to inform you there has been non-cooperation in the very spirits and spirit world that is designed to take care of you. I Machiventa, it upon myself to incarnate amongst you to prepare the way and keep the light of those that care about you and maintain your ascension to the Father. Those who are of rebellion have now gravitated certainly from the origins of the Lucifer Rebellion they have gravitated to cosmic insanity. When they are threatened with death, it is that disease that will destroy as much as possible before it leaves reality. And one last creative destruction against those who would oppose their right to do as they will.

Therefore, do missions in the future intend to restore cooperation. There is enough blame to go around and those who would be willing to serve our missions and serve the Father and serve Michael are warned and have been repeatedly warned that to take a side is (to) put yourself in danger. However, when we do establish rules of engagement for cooperation, we differentiate this. Certainly, during the initial phases of the mission, are you to understand the volatility of those caught off guard who will fill in the gaps using their own logic and their own tribal instincts to place upon you if you were to identify yourself as a representative of a mission, you would place yourself in danger of a logical mob. One of the greatest human errors is your finite perspective, meaning the containment of your reality is limited by the function of your senses and your projection of observation, limiting you literally to a small geographic area, a small spectrum of universe energy of light and frequency and sound and so on and so forth. And also, to truly understand the motivations of another human. And nonetheless, you are hardwired to fill in the gaps anyway, so that you can move forward and operate. And therefore, are we warning you that you are in danger, not because of the goodness and truth of your wish to serve, but that you would. place yourself within the irrationality of those who are hardwired to be triggered. as to what their cultural enemies are set up to do to trick them. This is a classic case in religion, where religion aspires to seek ascendancy of truth by hegemony over the other. The young human would tend to gravitate towards a non-religious view in the hopes of staying clear of this trap. But what the rebels have done is set up a system of planetary communication that traps you in what's called a dialectic, which is basically your... It's rigged. Your enemies are a prompt before you, but ultimately represent the same side of rebellion. Lucifer administration and governance has been able to establish this. And one of the reasons it was allowed was to adjudicate and demonstrate to those of the spiritual orders, those who are not human, that A, they make their final decisions as to their loyalty as to their understanding of what reality is and how they will operate in it. And two, how they operate in that determines the justice they ultimately receive and the mercy they are given. Because this is such an inglorious rebellion that has spread to places we need to update our revelation to your planet with and that the state of emergency on this planet and neighboring planets is the tardiness of what are called Justice missions and by Avonal sons from paradise.

These justice missions have the name Magisterial missions and that is why they could be referred to as Magisterial sons. They are sons. who the rebellions and rebels reject. Ultimately, the high sons of local authority involved with planetary executive function and designed to be nearly perfect, but yet share the Sonship, which you could say human. The only reason we say human qualities is because humans are sons of God under the sonship order. And so these high administrators are also sons of God on the order of the Son, not say of the spirit, which are, you could say, angels. So in your histories of rebellion in your stories, it is not so much that Lucifer is an angel or the highest angel. Lucifer is of the same order as you are, which is the sonship order. And the rebellion did convince many of the angelic orders to join him in his vision of what the universe that he ruled should work and operate as and under. And so, it was set up with literally, governance structures. And listen up because I'm going somewhere with this quickly. Rebellion set up its own universe administration of governance. Such an administration had little to no bearing on the inherent overriding or you could say federalized circuits of the entire universe set up for human ascension. Part of Lucifer's rebellion was the resentment of having to teach slow and dumb and ill slow to learn humans. Inglorious work for a glorious mind he was. And so, your Lord and Melchizedeks and all those loyal to the Father upheld not only the Father but also your ability to ascend. Whereas the rebels were indifferent to hostile. They could range from indifferent to hostile. Now, why did I say this was important? If the story and legend of those who would relegate rebellion to story and not fact, have still yet to deal with the true reality of this archetypical, a dance of non-cooperation going on in world evolution of competition between ideologies. in all ideological struggle. can be reduced on this planet. to the. origins of the Lucifer Rebellion. All civilizations have some root structure in this conflict. We have given you some past light lines discussing creation and destruction. And what should be understood is not to get caught up in the politics of the day to the point where you can't admit that both sides in their worst light represent the ideologies of rebellion, and therefore, non-cooperation and destruction.

Now ultimately this presents a conundrum that cannot be solved unless the model of cooperation is reestablished on the planet. The emergency is, there is a repeating cycle where it is impossible to get a, let's call it a level set or in technical jargon, something of a reboot, where everyone has that baseline of cooperation going forward. And this is a mathematical proof almost that when there is enough non-cooperation in the environment, it is destined for a season of destruction. And that might have been fine on an early evolving planet, but not such a technologically advanced planet as this. It is Doomed if it were to continue. Part of the on and off again conflicting developments of missions is the day to day, moment to moment adjustments of measuring how to deal with this on the planet. On a rough scale it is, do you let nature take its course, and at what point do you step in? And at another spectrum, it is, if nature were to take its course, would there be anything left to build off of? And that's just dealing with you. Then we have to deal with those who remain in the ideologies of rebellion or even the political intrigue of jurisdictional cooperation. The universe operates under and within or the sheer logistical adjustments required at each step. Therefore, can I say that to you so you understand cooperation does take some action. So, when you insert yourself into the inevitable political landscape of earthly living, must you aspire to bring a memo of understanding to those who you A, seek to unify. B, clearly lay out what the consequences of non-cooperation might be to those who would unjustly oppose or take advantage or destroy you in their non-cooperative aims. And furthermore, C, to define and stand for what cooperation will mean for those cooperating with you. What profit does anyone gain? Profit's such a bad word for some. But we all know even more so when you do not profit. Just like a good experience with a service becomes almost taken for granted. It takes very little of bad service to ruin a lot of good service. Simply put, profit is generally something that is recognized as good. And you should not feel shamed for wanting to profit out of your cooperation. Cooperation by mathematical definition equals profit. Non-cooperation by mathematical definition equals short-term gain for the non-cooperator that could be done for a variety of reasons typically, and we just defined those, it could be an error, it could be a consequence of a spectrum of evil. And it could reach the levels of sin. And when it reaches the levels of iniquity, it leads to destruction of the game itself.

So, what is the aim of cooperation? It's mutual gain, it's mutual profit, but it is not necessarily progression. Progress: how the word is broken down into the root, which is gress, which means step. Now to progress means you're making steps in a direction. Steps are being accomplished. The problem with such rhetoric is you are never entirely sure what those steps are leading to. If I were to digress from this light line, for example, it means I'm straying from my point. If I start talking about apples, when I've been talking about oranges the whole time, you would say, why are you comparing apples to oranges, Machiventa? I would be caught in my digression. And egress is something that steps out. And ingress is something that steps in. And so progress, for the sake of progress, is both a natural inherent occurrence, the sun right. The night falls, the sun rises, those are natural progressions of night and day. The Progress of let's just call it out for what it is. The progress of rebellion still asserts itself in the inertia of slow-moving missions that are yet to take full effect to mitigate the planet of its structures of ideas, governance and literal authority. To that which I say, the Most Highs did rule the kingdom of men but that the Most Highs rule when they are loyal to the Lord. Now you humans on this planet at this stage mistake the Lord for Jesus because the Lord bestowed Himself and was Jesus. For this you are not at fault, but that we wish you to cooperate when the Lord reasserts himself whether Jesus is here or not, and that also you are not to mistake Jesus for anything but the Lord if he were to appear, meaning that when the Lord does appear, you will know clearly, and it shall be stated understandably, the authority of God is upon you and that the call to arms is not rebellion in calling him the Antichrist but that your call to arms is to cooperate for the sake of your survival and your mutual profit and gain from there on out.

And thank you for listening. This is the end of our light line. We have reached our hour. And I conclude this as a Machiventa that cooperation is also not something that needs to be entirely taken so seriously all the time, and that when you feel secure in your cooperation, humor and lightheartedness can really take effect, and that when you do feel secure in your cooperative relationships, really can become lighthearted. And not only does this ease the pressure of a hard life, but that it allows spirit rejuvenation and the ability to be resilient in the hard times. So, we do appreciate any lightheartedness before the light line and your ability to shift gears into listening to anything we have to say, and that we do warn you that sometimes it could get and should get lighthearted, and that a light line is not always going to be supercilious. It's to reverence of the Father but that it will get lighthearted in the security that those who attend are unified in their love and faith in the Father. Thank you and have a good day.

Dominick
Thank you, Machiventa. And thank you everyone for listening. And thank you, Father, for this lightline.

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Dear Ron, sorry for your predicament with the cabal. Thank you Dominick for holding down the fort for Ron. 
I sincerely wish to know who or what is the cabal, really? The reason I am asking is because we have been 
told on numerous occasions that the cabal has been cleared from Urantia for good but they always seem to be  
one step ahead, outwit or out maneuver the forces that are trying to clear them out or get rid of them. 
Are they invincible and cannot be dealt with permanently or is there something for "matters of state" that we are not being told?

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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Dominick
All right, welcome to Lightline Tuesday, everyone, and welcome Salvador, who just joined us. This is recording now, but what will hit the editing floor, so to speak, is intros like this, as I create a Lightline and publish it now to YouTube. And in that sense, we are generating more of a production change to keep up with the times that allow us to reach a wider audience and frankly do it easier as well. I welcome Pliktarious to the call. You've joined by Internet and you are welcome.
All right, we're recording. We have as far as transmission weather goes, the warning that transmissions are cloudy and that there is interference. Nonetheless, I have some programming for us today. And let's just start with a quick prayer. We pray to our Father. And we ask for truth and a clear channel of circuit and communication to receive your broadcasts. And that these are helpful individually and to us as a group of people. And that we wanna share whatever's good and truthful and beautiful to everyone. And that everyone's better off with that, Amen.
Okay, so housekeeping started with the announcement that those who are helping with say, transcriptions, you are now welcome to be reassigned in other production assignments if you wish. You can be taken off of transcription. Let the machines do that and we will live with the results that despite human help and working with machines is never quite perfect and is still quite time intensive. So, understand transcription is not perfect. It gives an inaccurate, in terms of 100% accuracy, render of the light line in written form. Most of you can live with that. And so, we thank you for your patience and just qualify the fact that transcriptions, whether they come through the captions on a video or someone who's taken the effort to utilize transcription software to provide you something to read, that that is not always 100% accurate. And there's always maybe a word here and there that's actually not the word that was said or that something is miscapitalized because the software didn't do it. And so on and so forth.
Welcome Gary to the call and you're on video. Gary joins us on video. None of, no one else has so far. And Gary, for your edification, you're looking at York weather out my window here at Dominick, so it's good to see you.

We've started recording, but we haven't quite received any transmission yet. And frankly, we may not today. But nonetheless, I received some programming, so we might have a different style of light line today in terms of who we get. Now, light lines are for those new you could think of them as a podcast. They are being rebranded and re-presented as a podcast because every Tuesday, at least here, this transmitter is utilizing the technology to make it a podcast. And will quickly have the ability to help the others train and produce what is light lines happening and occurring through different transmitters under the auspice of the Magisterial Foundation. That is not a monopoly over transmission, but an organization dedicated to missions that will enter the planet non-physically and physically. Every planet is destined to have physical manifestation of the divine directed by deity. Transmissions in the past have been cut off in planetary history. This is due to what is referred to as rebellion. It is the legacy of the planet and we will begin and end with that term legacy.
But today there is an interesting topic as we have the rebranding of Star Wars coming out. If anyone's followed that trajectory of how the stories, characters and arc of the overall lore of Star Wars has changed over time, you I could say that story and perception matter. So, if there was a theme today. It is this. May the source be with you.

Light lines are provided by source. Yes, there is a universal source. This is the Universal Father. In the arc of the Star Wars storyline, the evil forces, you could say, are the rebels. And what the new story is, is the perspective of the rebel. And the perspective of the rebel convinces you evil is in the eye of the beholder, it's subjective, and that their cause is good. So, understand that those of you who are new to spiritual matters, either in belief or more yet in the spiritual conflict that has gone on in planetary history, that two sides recognizing the creation of the sovereign of the universe, the creator of the universe, a Michael Son, a son from a destination called Paradise. And like your stories, this is outside in your understanding of time and space. Nonetheless, this Michael's son who represents this universal father, this universal source rules and creates in the Father. Thus did Jesus say, if you see me, you see the Father. Now, the rebels’ blasphemy. They say the source is your fiction, Michael and that there is no source, there is only force. The force of nature and the force of intelligence. And so, the story goes through the legacy of your planet. That's the gist of all story-telling in a nutshell.
The struggle between conveying the rebel forces as good and conflating and blurring the lines between who are even the rebels and who are the oppressors. But understand the source of that conflict is not the source of creation. It has a static timeline that occurred early in your planetary history. Story matters because it shapes your perception and your understanding of what truth is. You base your identity somewhat off of that. You base your concepts of freedom and that in turn colors your definition of everything you observe, you value, and you give meaning to. This is an aesthetic reality. But as a human, you struggle to navigate with a compass based off of what you can define as absolute and objective end source while you observe and experience relativity, subjectivity. And those things are forces. And what anchors you as a source. And you can even see this in the Star Wars arcs of old in that forces are what bend the human mind to good or bad. And that ultimately a character arc of redemption is based off of the source within that human. For example, Anakin Skywalker turned to the dark side and was redeemed by his son, Luke, who refused to acknowledge that his father completely turned to the dark side and appealed to the source within his father to win over the force of darkness.

And so, when these stories lead to your perception, your identity with truth and how you define values and meanings, ultimately colors your perception of what is good and what is beautiful and these light lines are sponsored by the source of that. And ultimately it teaches us to connect with that. So may the source be with you. And so now since we're hitting a different format these days and we don't seem to have anybody quite on the line, understand that in a normal light line, these are not scripted. So, the entertainment value is not that you're getting quality programming right off the gate, but that you're getting novel programming co-created and received by a human through spiritual circuits and that we ultimately are humans giving you this broadcast. And if we were to stray too much into current events or the morals of the day, you would quickly find out that we are human beings and not representatives of the divine, but that our transmitting aims to voice those who are, and remove ourselves as much as we can from the controversy of our human fallacies. We do and will touch current events more and more since these light lines are also with the goal of not just purveying and propagating existing revelation, but that it is potential based off of the human participation of both the transmitter and the audience that we are eligible for communication and revelation where wanted and frankly permitted. So, we're going to switch into current events a little bit with a little bit of governance and this may have come from Arthura, a combination of authors you could say.

And so, the example we're going to give, we're just going to launch into it, is human trafficking. Here in the United States, human trafficking is affecting the governance of the state, of the United States. It's affecting each individual state as those cities have an inundation of new arrivals seeking citizenship under the legality of political asylum. Now there is on face value the issue of the strain and quality, the strain that that puts on the existing apparatus and population, the apparatus of the state who is looked upon to resolve the burden for people on all sides. There's a struggle around that, that will touch … in a bit. And that is what's happening on the surface.  The double dip of harms of the human trafficking, if we assume that everyone coming across is worthy of entering via the border and seeking citizenship, but there's still a double dip that's not really being discussed, that is putting a strain on the state. And this is something that can be extrapolated to all conflicts across the planet, in that resources are being attacked. That is a large word on the spectrum. You could just define that as being destroyed without creating anything of added value. So, when it's under attack, it's destroying or siphoning away without adding value. And so, the double dip in human trafficking here is that people spend a lot of their resource to get to the border of the United States, and then they're being human trafficked, so illegally at that border to get in. So, what you have is even when the people arrive, they've been depleted, robbed of their resources, and now they're a burden on us who live in the state. This isn't fair to anyone. And from a policy perspective that's defined as a double dip. It's a hit. The triple dip, the third harm, is that not only is there a loss of resources to get here and then a burden on the host country to sustain these new arrivals, who frankly spent all their money to get here and they really didn't need to do that under ideal circumstances. But nonetheless, it's something to think about as citizens on both sides. And the triple dip is that still what gets in because of this resource war of attack are the drugs and crime equally.

And at a survival mode, this is a temptation then for any newly arrived group into the lands of a new country that you were tempted to go to the lowest common denominator of survival, which is usually something not within the state, but organized without it. And so, you have this precarious dynamic that should be talked about by its citizens.
And so now we'll go into a little bit more of a philosophy around this example which could be further related to the theme of today's light line, which is force compared to source. Force, and if you drew a line down the middle, we're just comparing things on the left to things on the right. Force on the left, source on the right. If you wanna visualize that. Related to the state. The state has regulation. Domestically it enforces laws with that regulation. So, regulation equals laws, and domestically we try to enforce those laws. Adjudication corresponds to courts and the rulings of those laws. And then the executive branch is really state relations in the form of agencies together with the ability to tax. Now there's been philosophies and political scientists of the past. We're not going to rehash that. But now if we look on the left and look at the concept of force, whether it's within the state or not, if you've studied politics, one philosophy is that the state is force, it's monopolized force. And so that's why the state monopolizes the military. But you also hear force in economics when referred to as market forces. And so, we want to recall. Destruction does not create value. And so, the militarized state has the tendency to monopolize value whereas the citizen is the habituator of source. Each citizen is a potential universe citizen endowed with source. In this sense, when you are a normal human being, all people in the past, written in codified as men, pronouns today we say people. All people are created equally. This is represented by your endowment with the source. The universal source we call the Father, because we understand it best as humans when we give it personality and a familial quality to it. Yes, there is source when you extrapolate the universal source to trinitarian source of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, or if you refer numbers, first, second, and third source. This also qualifies as can say these agencies of government. But that's something for your own meandering minds. Now the citizen is endowed with source, but the state is not. Missions from spirit represent the Source but you as people have direct line to the source. The blasphemy of the rebel obliterates that connection. It is your destiny to understand this creation prerogative of a human that you are endowed with this.

The force is not the source. The legacy of your stories so well encompassed by the canons of the Lord of the Rings, which represents the old history, a planetary history, and say something like Star Wars, which represents the politics of galactic system politics do have their canon in the legacy of real events that happened in history. The rebel obfuscates this story by saying that this is human myth. The Satanist nonetheless denies God, while propagating the truth that everything is a story, and then thrives to define what is truthful, good, and beautiful, while declaring the individual unit as the source itself. There's the little nuance. The rebel aspires to replace the source and be the source, whereas the deity of source points out the binary nature between your consciousness and the consciousness of the Father, the consciousness of Spirit. Eventually you can merge these things. This is called fusion. The rebel causes confusion. Think about that. Confusion aids the rebel. In this sense, the repeated revelation of the truth of deity, the truth of spiritual conflict, aims to rectify the planet. It doesn't just aim to rectify the spiritual evolution while ignoring all the bad that's going on, on the planet.

So, realize the struggle goes on still today to accurately present you with the story and work on your perception up until the point where deity presents itself in physical form to you in the aspect of divine representation possibly. This is the litmus test by which to judge all your brothers in outer space, brothers and sisters. If you understand that there’s visitors to the planet, it's easy to understand they come for many reasons. Mostly because the very deity of the universe, this sector of the universe, the grand universe, which has a local universe to it, which is still quite huge and which you belong to, the deity of our universe bestowed itself upon this planet. It is a one-of-a-kind event to all planets who otherwise have a different divine son of paradise. The rebel declared that these Divine Sons were real. Understand that the rebel does acknowledge that these Divine Sons exist, but the rebel does not tell you that the Father and that the Universal Source is real. Instead, it elevates oneself to deity status and sustains that contention by pointing to the force of the universe still existing despite their rebellion, and that that lack of immediate judgment sustains their rebellion. That's what we're in still today. That's in large part why bad things are still going on, on the planet. When deity enters the scene, and know that we are doing so now, anyway that we are creating a liaison with citizens who are endowed with source, and that we will work with you to amend your conflicts and institutions to the point where the state is not a force of monopolized destruction but that it is a useful tool for the citizens to become value-based and add value based on creation. This by no means destroys the laws of regulation, the courts of adjudication, or the agencies of the state, and its general need to levy taxes.

So, in conclusion, when the transmitter received this earlier today, we were asked, why are we fighting? So that's how we ended it. Why are we fighting? And it is, in two words, our legacy and those are the people inhabiting this planet. We are fighting because it is our legacy that we fight. How are the stories today, all of our politics, all of our social movements aiming to amend this legacy. Are we creating value or are we looking to destroy and not add value? Let's look at some of the definitions of the word legacy.
The appropriate definition of legacy that we just used is, quote, something transmitted by or received from an ancestor or a predecessor or from the past. That's the second definition, number two, when I looked this up and printed it out. That's certainly the legacy that was just elucidated or talked about. All of our conflicts with legacy are also simply just evolution when we look at animals and hierarchies and behavior, in so much as legacy is also defined as a gift by will, especially of money or other personal property. And so, that's essentially a legacy of animal behavior and hierarchy. Nonetheless, it's very complex. And certainly, that's why we have regulation around that. But it's a big thing that human beings naturally care about their legacy and they certainly in nations that have property for its citizens will seek to provide that legacy to their offspring. And then as legacy as an adjective.

The really easy way to think of legacy is that it's carried over from an earlier time. So, understand that this planet, if it is being so critical or critically besieged with conflict, you really can't resolve the conflict or understand the philosophical differences of how we're supposed to get out of this together and that we should not look externally too much within or without ourselves and that we should look within ourselves. Wise advice is always that for your own mental health, try to control what you can within the zone of your control. And so, the source is ultimately within you and that's within your zone of control. Propaganda, media, all that stuff. You can give yourself a quick test to ask yourself how good it is at pointing you back to source as opposed to distracting it or maybe even telling you that it doesn't even exist. This source is what involves worship. So, when you worship and you want to elevate that gratitude to the point of a personal relationship with Source, worship is the way to do it. When you want to have a conversation with Source. That could easily happen spontaneously along with prayer, which can easily be spontaneous as well. And Jesus taught this as well.
More complex lessons for those who struggle with pronouns is that understand the male and female and all sorts of combinations therein are best viewed for humans like a double helix. You really can't have one without the other. And so those who currently worship the Force and not the Source, you could also ask yourself whether you were trying to win victory by not restoring any balance, but dominating one over the other. Rebel declares himself good while justifying the bad. Whereas the source eventually replaces the bad with good to the point where the evil no longer exists. This is what it means to create. Creating adds value and therefore is good. Thank you for listening. And we will open this up to questions.

Q & A
So, we've had some possibility of Q&A and you can press five star. Otherwise, we're at the end of today's light line, in which case we can fill up a little bit of the time with some announcements, and that is, stay tuned for Wednesday's light line, possibly from a different transmitter, as Lemuel has encountered some difficulties and is unavailable. So, there's the possibility it's canceled tomorrow. But stay tuned in case another transmitter steps in to hold the Wednesday program. In the meantime, you can press 5 star if you're on the telephone. And I will unmute everybody just for a moment just to see if there's anything. We're all unmuted. Is there anybody who has anything to comment on or question? In which case, I'll mute everybody again and answer the question. Okay.
All right, so I thank you everyone for tuning in. And that's usually the case and the hand gets raised. I'm trying to unmute you, Elise. You're unmuted, Elise. You have the floor.  

Elise
Yes, thank you, Dominick. Well, I was wondering, your talking or your question was, why are we fighting? And your simple answer was, it's our legacy, right? And I'm wondering, do all planets in the whole creation have to fight against that same problem, this legacy? Is that a norm for all inhabited worlds? Do they all have to face it? And also, are all planets that are in light and life, have they overcome this problem of fighting?

Dominick
Well, we'll start with the last and work ourselves back. Yes, light and life has resolved violent conflict, such as war. And what's left is only the association of living and the conflicts around that. But at a planetary scale, things like war have been resolved for conflict resolution. Now, if you recall in the 5th epochal revelation, it acknowledges the fact that evolution of an animal species experiences war and warlike behavior. That humans, therefore on any planet, in its early history, when you talk about planets with very long histories, that evolutionarily, this is something all planets with humans undergo. And so, with this program of missions to a planet, this gets staged out. So, the answer to your question is; Planets do experience it and it becomes phased out with more and more revelation and more and more divine representation. Does that answer your question?

Elise
Yes, it does. So, then legacy goes that far back, you know, all the way back to the animal life on the planet, actually. That's where it starts.

Dominick
Yes. Yeah. Okay. Well,

Elise
Thank you.

Dominick
What would be different on a normal planet is the lack of disrupted and defaulted missions and galactic politics of rebellion.

Elise
Yes, yes, I understand that.

Dominick
Yeah. So that is the conflict of anyone listening to these light lines is that they might be exposed for the first time that this conflict exists or that missions need to happen and occur to help resolve this.

Elise
Yes.

Dominick
Thanks, Elise. Is that it?

Elise
Yes. Thank you.

Dominick
Thanks for the question.

Elise
I see everything has been provided for by the source. That's what I see in the whole history then. However history runs, there are things that can solve it, and we always get the help from above, so to speak. Yes. I understand it. Thank you very much for your answer.

Dominick
You're welcome. So not to talk over Elise, I put you on mute. And just to further that point out, or further finish that point, missions to a planet that are spiritual might have a purely spiritual goal to it. And that would be to evolve human consciousness to the point where it can work with source better. And that will create an affect with an A, an affect on the planet. But a mission need not be purely and wholly spiritual. That missions, certainly in the case of Adam and Eve, had a biological component. And so, understand that that source just isn't pure mental willpower. It involves the body. It involves your cells. It involves all those things are interconnected. And that modern missions today, that deity and divine administration have declared that the broadcast circuits are open enough that we can have something like light lines. And so, we're trying to prepare the way, not just propagate spiritual teachings and declare the fact of any past revelation, but that we're trying to prepare the way for missions to have a positive creative effect on the planet that helps us materially. Because we are so abnormal, like that question just kind of asked, we're not a normal planet. And that missions today, if they were to just purely be spiritual, would be ineffective but that we shouldn't look too much for external correction, that we will be empowered to work this out amongst ourselves to the point where we don't have to depend on the state for 100% of our lives and that we could govern ourselves eventually around all the ideals we seek. And that is defined as light in life. We're not there yet and we need missions to get us there as well. And so that's ultimately what these particular light lines seek to engage our audience with.
And so, on that note, we thank you for attending and we thank you for listening and stay tuned. Thank you.

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  •      061224 Audio Tape Wednesday Light Line USA; Host: Lemuel Cohost: Elise
  •      Subjects: -So much educating is needed for people to know the meaning of their lives; - Do you know yourself? You have 4 lower bodies and 3 higher bodies as well; Your emotional or Astral body-your Aura is your area of influence;-Your Soul is the real you and what it needs to grow; -Your thoughts are the most powerful thing that you possess;
  •      Speakers: Mantutia Melchizedek, Lemuel’s Thought Adjuster
  •       Transcribed By: Moses Ouko
  •      Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240612_110231
Elise
Good evening, good day to everyone, this is Elise and I'm taking Lemuel's place for a little while as host because Lemuel doesn't have a dashboard and we have right now 12 people on the dashboard listed. And Lemuel asked me to name them all. So, then we go, it's Salvador, George Meyer, Robert from New York, Donna and Larry Whelan, Ron Besser, Rene Duran, Moses, Roger Raz, and then we have a couple of names. One, two, three, four via the Internet and it's me and yourself Lemuel. So altogether there are 13 listening at the moment. And well, Lemuel has asked me to start this light line off with a little prayer. So, I will do that.

Well, maybe I first should say what the date is before we forget to list that it is Wednesday today and it's June the 12th of the year 2024. Okay.

Well, dear Father, we thank you for bringing us together with Lemuel as our host. We thank you, Father, for your love, for your care. We pray for peace and healing for this world. We pray for all people that we may have the strength and the courage to all keep the course. To make ourselves useful in what must be done to heal the world. And we want to pray for Jesus, for Michael of Nebadon, the Melchizedeks, the Magisterial sons, and many, many others who are always helping us, that they may succeed in their work to improve this world, and that they will overcome any opposition. We thank you, Father. We're all coming here to hear your words. And we ask for clear connection and for your true words. Thank you so much. Amen.

I'm just wondering if I started the recording. I guess I did. Could you be of help here, Ron?

Lemuel
Did you mute me? Ah, okay. Elise?

Elise
Yes.

Lemuel
You forgot to mute me. Okay, no, I'm unmuted now. All right?

Elise
Yes, you're unmuted. Yes, I have unmuted. Okay, I'm unmuted. I am going to unmute you, Lemuel. Let me see where you are.

Elise
Yes, you are unmuted. I'm just wondering, Lemuel, whether I started the recording because when I look at the sign, it says stop recording and I cannot see if it's running. Did anyone hear that it started or should I do it over?

Lemuel
Well, you did say that I heard the recording started as normal, yes, I heard that.

Elise
You heard that? Okay, well, let's count on that. So go ahead, then Lemuel.

Lemuel
All right, thank you.

Elise
I cannot see it anywhere, whether it started or not. That's the problem. Well, let's just hope it started.

Lemuel
If you want, you can ask Ron for his advice.

Elise
Yeah, let me unmute him. Ron, are you there?

Ron
Can you hear me?

Elise
Yes, I can.

Ron
All right. I've got problems of my own. So, the cabal is at work and are introducing confusion. If Lemuel does not have his dashboard working, and you are working it. All you need to do is press the button that you use to get the dashboard and let it take its own settings for itself because it's got the right settings automatically.

Elise
Okay, even if I'm not sure that I pressed recording?

Ron
That’s right.

Elise
Okay, then I leave it like that.

Ron
Yeah, leave it like that. That's the best we can do under the circumstances. So just go with it, Lemuel.

Elise
Thank you, Ron. Thank you.

Ron
Take your time. Thank you.

Lemuel
Well, this is Lemuel, of course, as you all know, your host. And it's good to be back here in the saddle, so to speak. And welcome to all of you on this Wednesday Lightline, 12th of June, 2024. Now I ask if there is someone here with us who will act as our MC.

Mantutia Melchizedek
Well, this is Mantutia Melchizedek Lemuel, and I in fact will not act as an MC, but I will stay around for a while because I know that Machiventa Melchizedek is really tied up, and of course Michael of Nebadon. All very busy doing what they have to do. And what I would like to say is that in fact, there is nothing new that has not been spoken to yesterday and Sunday with Ron's Lightline and nothing of great import, I would like to say. And we don't know, well, nobody seems to know at this point, and I'm sure Ron doesn't know for himself whether or not he will be available to do a lightline on Sunday. Well, that remains to be seen. So, I think on the face of it, and I mean you are left to your own devices, we need to a great extent. If there is someone here, I will of course introduce him to you and the group at a convenient moment. But just to let you know that I am here. I am Mantutia Melchizedek your Planetary Prince, and I will just keep an eye on you and the proceedings. So go ahead, Lemuel. Do what you think is best.

Lemuel
Well, thank you, Mantutia. Thank you. Yes, well, I call upon my beloved and...

Lemuel’s Adjuster
Yes, all right. All right. Well, yes. This is Lemuel’s Adjuster, and strangely enough situation being as it is. And it would be quite appropriate now. I don't know if you can remember, but some time ago because Lemuel had been absent for health reasons we spoke about how you relate to the elements, some of you may remember. Well, I would like to speak about, for example, the Magisterial sons with a mission will go ahead as they plan and they will do what they have to do, when and how, etc, etc. And the same applies, of course, to Jesus, when he is able to do his thing, so to speak. It's going to be a long time really before Adam and Eve are able to set up their schools.

Well, I want you to imagine that although the first signs of rioting and panic and all the rest of it that probably will take place after the first announcement from the Magisterial Sons. And hopefully all that will be quietened and brought under a certain amount of control so that Jesus is able to begin his mission. But be that as it may, there is so much need for educating on a personal level. So many people do not have the slightest idea of who they are, what they are, and why they are here, and what is it they're supposed to be doing, and what is the meaning of their lives. Further education of a more spiritual nature will follow. Yes, of course.

But all of you here, you are such a privileged group and a loving family. You have a degree of knowledge far beyond the average Joe or Mary. I want you now to imagine that someone may be soon as you think is going to come to you and ask you some questions about what is happening, about God or Jesus or whatever, what are you going to say? How are you going to respond? Well, I suggest that you say to this person standing in front of you, please, for the moment, don't concern yourself about God. God is X, Y, Z. Let us start with the A, B, C. And you are the ABC and let me tell you now. Long, long before you reach XYZ in your spiritual advancement you will have already traveled along your ascension path so far that you become what is called fused with the God that is in you. So let us leave that for the moment.

Now let us come back to you. You are the ABC. What do you really know about yourself? You look in the mirror every day and you see this image. Yes, what you see and what you think and how you are, etc., etc., is just the tip of a very large iceberg, so to speak. The vast majority of you is totally invisible. So, it is understandable that you know practically nothing about yourself. And if you know nothing about yourself, how can you possibly love what you do not know? How can you love other people if you don't know them and how can you really know them if you don't really know yourself? You are much more than a body. So let us start with your body. Yes. It is a wonderful organ full of different chemicals, electro chemicals. Now I want you to imagine the next time you look in the mirror. Let's suppose you've just come out of the shower and you start thinking, if you're already shy, okay, put on some pants. I want you to look at yourself and imagine.

Immediately surrounding your physical body, there is another body, a very fine body. And it is called your energy body, or your etheric body. And it is very fine. It is about it may be a centimeter to a centimeter and a half in width. And it is a pale gray color, if you could see it. The kind of color of exhaled cigarette smoke, for example. Again, it is invisible. But in fact, you can train yourself to see it if it was necessary, if you were so interested. Well, this is your energy body and it is called your energy body because in fact it acts as battery cells and as a battery, it takes on the international energy called Prana. You fall asleep every night because your battery is almost uncharged, flat. So, it needs to be recharged. So, this is why your sleep is so necessary. To recharge your batteries, you say it for yourselves, don't you? I need to recharge my batteries. Well, your energy body is your battery.

All right. Let's look again at your body. Around your body again, there is another body. Oh yes. It is called your emotional body or also we just call it your astral body and it extends from the top of your head, extended out to the width of extended arms and then tapering down to your feet. And it is full of colors, different colors, swirling around, and it is really quite beautiful or also it can look terrible because your aura displays what you are, what you think, and how is your health and people who are able to see your aura, and there are people who can, they see exactly how you are. No secrets, they can see who you are. This emotional body, this astral body, almost always, every night leaves your body. And the dreams that you have may be of experiences that your astral body has experienced during its night travel. I think you will all agree that mostly when you wake up in the morning, the first moment you remember maybe some things of your dream, but just a short while later you will have forgotten all about it. The astral also is a body that many people have seen and they regard it as a ghost or poltergeist or whatever because the emotional body has its own energy. And these poor souls who do not know anything about the Light, do not have any spiritual maturity in their souls, they stay around where in fact they have lived throughout the whole of their lives and they need to be rescued, for this is another subject that I won't talk about at the moment.

Alright. Also, I would like to mention that your emotional body also relates, in fact, to the vegetable kingdom and yes, the vegetable kingdom that is to say all the trees, all the plants, all the flowers, etc, they have, yes, they have feelings. And they know those of you who love and appreciate them and those of you who do not.

Alright. Now, let's have another look, a deeper look. You have another body. And this is your normal mental body, that is to say, your human mental dimension of thought, conscious, unconscious, subconscious. And of course, that surrounds all of the rest of you, so to speak. So, you have, we could say, four lower bodies; your physical, the aesthetic energy body, your emotional body or astral body and then your human, your normal human mentality or your mental level.

And there are also three higher bodies. Yes. Now, I know what you are thinking, but let me tell you this. It does not matter what you believe or disbelieve. The truth is. And that's it. End of story, full stop. Truth does not need you to believe it or any whims for that matter. It is so easy for ego to tell you that something is true or something is false when in fact it doesn't know the first thing about it. There is outer knowledge, of course there is. Those who study have proven things for themselves. Yes, of course, there is outer knowledge from outer experiences. But there is also inner knowledge also from experience. But this is spiritual knowledge. And this spiritual experience always surges from deep within your being. And it is this that tells you what is true or what is false. You do not need ego to tell you what is true or what is false. Any new concept that comes into your way, all right, look at it, think about it. Just keep an open mind. There's no need for you to say yes or no. Don't allow your ego to tell you what is right or wrong. No, no.

Let the real you tell you what is right and wrong. And by the real you, I'm coming to that now. You've all heard of the soul. Yes. But what do you know about your soul? Really. What is a soul? Where is it? What is it for? What does it do? Your soul is the only thing that has the potential to survive after your physical death. At the beginning, I told you, you are the A-B-C forget the XYZ for a while. Now I want to paint you a picture and in fact, there is a pun in this. Deliberate pun. Listen now to what I'm going to tell you. It is impossible for the creature to be separated from the creator. And it is impossible for a painting to be separated from the painter. Everyone can recognize a Leonardo da Vinci or a Picasso or a Rembrandt or a Salvador Dali. Why are these paintings so recognizable? Well, the simple answer is, of course, that they have within them the essence of the artist, the painter. I can see that you believe that. I told you it doesn't matter what you believe. What is true stands by itself. But you understand that, and you recognize that. All right. Well, it's the same with you. You have the essence of the creator in you. So, if you like, regard yourself for a moment as a work of art and the artist has obviously during his creating of you, has given you of himself. So, you have your creator in you. Now, that essence of the artist in you resides in a higher mental level, far above your normal human level. But between that, your normal human mental level and the higher mental level where the essence of your creator resides, there is what we call the soul. Now your soul, of course, is invisible but you have the soul and your soul was brought to you from this essence of the creator that is in you.

Why? Because the artist wants from you his painting, so to speak. I hope you can still follow me. He wants you to become like him because you are in fact his child. Many artists, because they work as their children, artists have maybe thousands of children, thousands of works of art, and within each and every one of them is a part of himself. Now, coming back to your soul. As you know, when you die, your physical body just disintegrates, you bury it or you burn it or whatever. What is left is your soul and the essence. Now, this essence of the Father is pure Spirit. So now I will use the word God or Father. I prefer Father because it's easier for you to understand. Your Father. Your Heavenly Father has placed a part of himself in you exactly like all artists have their essence in their paintings. This essence is pure spirit and it accompanies your soul. In fact, in a way, it is the father of your soul and your soul to begin with is in embryonic form and it needs to grow. And of course it is invisible, but it is not spirit and it is not physical. It is of a finer material, which we call morontia. There's no need for you to remember the word, but you do need to remember and differentiate between the material or physical and your mental level and then, Morontia, in between physical and spirit.

Now I've given you six bodies for you to think about. And there is a seventh one, of course. So let us recap for a moment. You recognize your physical body. Now I've explained to you your energy body, the aesthetic body. It is your battery that you need to charge every night when you sleep. You have an emotional body called the astral body and you have your Aura also which displays who you are in a sense and how you are. It's really a beautiful kaleidoscope of color and this is your area of influence. And of course, when you meet other people, you clash, your auras clash. And sometimes there's no problem, you're quite comfortable in the company of other people. But sometimes the reverse happens and you just can't wait to get out of the company of some people, this is a clash of auras. And this is another subject that perhaps can be talked about on another light line in the future.

So please, now, when you look at yourself in the mirror. You will only see your physical body. But now I think you can identify with your energy body and then your Astral body that leaves normally your body every night and returns before you wake up. And sometimes during the night you jerk awake and it is because your astral has entered rather sharply and it kicks you, so to speak, and you jump in the bed. You've all had that experience, I'm sure. Obviously, you can identify with your mental body, or that is to say the workings of your mind, your conscious, unconscious, subconscious mind. Again, invisible. And then this soul, in fact, is the real you. The real you that has the potential of surviving after your physical death and it needs to be nurtured, it needs to grow. And it grows with the help of the essence of the Father that has brought it to you and it grows with spiritual food. It grows with your love that you display, not just towards yourself, but towards other people. It grows with every kind act that you have performed. It grows every time you smile and say hello to someone. It grows every time you do something for a neighbor or you help someone. It grows and it grows every time you do something for someone else. And as you go through your life, this soul grows and matures because of everything that you have done under the umbrella of love and doing exactly to other people what you would have them do to you. This reciprocal action of to give and receive with love and gratitude.

You have doubts in your mind about the invisible. Well, let me tell you a few other things. There are quite a few things that you share your life with. And you take it for granted, but you can't see them but you can see the effect. You cannot see air, but you breathe it. When you breathe out you see vapor, of course, in the cold weather, but that is something else. You cannot see the wind, but you can see the effect of the wind with the trees and the leaves swaying in the breeze. When you smell the roses, you cannot see the perfume but the smell is wonderful, is it not? Invisible again. You cannot see your own thoughts. But your own thoughts are the most powerful thing that you possess? And you cannot see love. You are only witness to its action or in other words, the effect of love. Something that you and everyone else has witnessed, I am sure, many, many times. So, the reason you do not know that in fact you are the ABC of everything is because no one has taught you. How can you know something if you've never been taught? And as I said in the beginning, how can you love something if you do not know what it is? Well, when you know yourself. When you really know yourself, you cannot help but love yourself and therefore you know and can love every other Tom, Dick and Harry, Jane, Mary in the world because they are all the same. They are like you, although different. You all know you are unique. It's not another one like you in the whole of creation. That's just almost too wonderful for words to even describe that. Nothing is repeated.

Well, I hope now that you have learned something about yourself. You are the ABC as you go through the alphabet, this will be after you leave this body and with your soul on this morontial level. Morontial material which is invisible but as I said, it is much finer than physical but it is not spirit. But that grows and it grows and it matures and it matures until one day it becomes so fine that it becomes Spirit itself. And this wonderful fusion takes place. So that the essence that was given to you from Father, and you, the soul, becomes one entity. This is the potential of your soul. And this is the reason why you are here. You are, remember, exactly like a painting. The artist has painted you, God has painted you, or Father, if you prefer. And Father has given you part of himself as all artists give of themselves in their paintings. Now, I know you understand this. Whether you believe it or not, that's entirely up to you. For me, it's neither here nor there. But in the future, maybe sooner than you would like to think, something inside you will surge up into your mind and you will know that what I have told you is the truth. All spiritual knowledge is inner, not outer, and it comes from within yourself, and it will come from within your soul that is growing. True spiritual knowledge and experience is always inner, never outer. And this is why there's no need to allow your ego to say what is true or what is false. Because that only pertains to the outer world, the material world. Never to the inner world.

Well, I think I have spoken long enough to you. Now, hopefully you understand a little bit more about yourself. You are far, far greater than what you could ever imagine. Your uniqueness and the potential beauty and wonder of your soul which you can help it to grow every single day with the love that you display for others. Alright. One final word. All paintings represent, do they not? The painter, the artist. So, you represent the Father. You represent your creator. What are you representing? You are the work of the artist and the artist has been God or Father. Are you representing him? Because you already have him as I explained. This is your seventh body, so to speak, and your sixth body is your soul, so to speak. By being Kind, by being loving you are representing Father who created you. And that fragment of the essence of Father that resides within you, as it does within everyone. Alright, but I thank you for listening to my words. Take them to heart and they will bear fruit in the future, and you will know that I have spoken the truth and you will experience it for yourself. Thank you. Alright Lemuel. I stand back now, I hand it back to you.

Lemuel
Thank you, beloved, thank you so much. Well, really thank you so much for that. Well, I want to ask Mantutia Melchizedek, are you still around?

Mantutia Melchizedek
Yes, I'm still here, and I've heard every word from your Adjuster and I want to say it was just wonderful, thank you for that, Lemuel’s Adjuster. Thank you so much. Thank you. I'm sure it will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Well, Lemuel, the situation is the same. There's no one here. And for the reasons that I explained at the beginning of the light line. And so, you still have some time left. So now you can ask your co-host, Elise, yes, ask her to open it up and to perhaps to give someone else a chance to say something or perhaps ask Elise if she wants to say something. So, I will say bye-bye for now, Lemuel.

Lemuel
And thank you so much, Mantutia Melchizedek. Thank you, we really and do appreciate it. Thank you so much. You're very welcome.

Mantutia Melchizedek
You're very welcome, Lemuel. Thank you. Bye-bye.

Lemuel
Thank you. Well, Elise, I will hand this over to you now as my co-host and ask you if you have any comments to make.

Elise
Yes, thank you, Lemuel. Well, thank you for this beautiful transmission. In the meantime, others have joined you. Valerie, Roger Kruper, Stephen Gitz, Dominick, Roger Raz, Jose Vargas, and Charlotte from Alabama. So, you have a full audience of 19 altogether.

Lemuel
Thank you for that. OK.

Elise
And well, I'm going to shut off the recording. I hope I'm shutting it off, but I have been writing down what you have been saying, what you have been hearing. So, if the recording isn't there, I will try to make something from what I have on my paper here. Well, thank you so much, Lemuel. And I will.

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General Discussion / Re: Happy Birthday!!
« on: June 09, 2024, 13:33:55 pm »
Ron. God Bless you always.

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I concur with you Occerpa. I also stood up, raised my right hand and took the oath. 
May the will of the Father be done always in all ways. Amen.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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Good morning/afternoon SongatSunrise.

Thank you for this post. 
Thank you Pleiadeans for this transmission as well. 
Sincerely appreciated. God Bless to all.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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Thank you Dominick. 
Thank you our celestial family as well. 
This is good news. God Bless to all.

Love and Blessings,
Moses

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  •     050824 Audio Tape Wednesday Light Line USA; host: Lemuel, other transmitter; Ron
  •     Subjects: -consciousness and how we relate to it's manifestation; -the 4 elements, earth, air, fire, and water; -the vegetable kingdom, devas, tree sentinels and elemental spirits; -the animal kingdom; -human relationships; -Jesus is the only human to have expressed unconditional love; -Michael announces that lightlines will have a different name in future.
  •     Speakers: Lemuel’s Thought Adjuster, Machiventa Melchizedek, Michael of Nebadon, Jesus
  •     Transcribed By: Moses Ouko
  •    Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240508_110034

Lemuel
Yes, all right. Let's get started. Good afternoon, everyone. Good evening, wherever you are. Welcome to another Wednesday Lightline. Today being the 8th of May, 2024. And this is Lemuel, your host.
And we have at the moment 13 on the call. So welcome, George. George Meyer and Robert, welcome. Roger Krupa, welcome. And there's three names with the numbers. Welcome to all of you. And so, let's see what happens. Good afternoon, Roger. Roger Raz, welcome. All right. Is there anyone here that would you like to speak to us this, this Lightline?

Lemuel’s Thought Adjuster
Yes, Lemuel, this is your beloved indwelling. I would like to address your Lightline today.

Lemuel
Well, thank you Beloved. Thank you. Please go ahead when you're ready.

Lemuel’s Thought Adjuster
I am Lemuel's thought adjuster and I would like to talk to all of you. And first of all, I want to ask you to consider how do you relate to consciousness? You all know what consciousness is. Consciousness is simply life. If there is no consciousness, there can be no life. If you are unconscious, to all extents and purposes you are dead. Everything in manifestation, throughout time and space, is a manifestation of consciousness. All that is manifested is a creation, a demonstration, if you like, of consciousness. The created can never be separated from the creator, consciousness, in exactly the same way that an artist and the artistry and the art is a manifestation of the consciousness of the artist. I want you now to consider how you relate.

First of all, to the four elements, earth, air, fire, and water. Let us first consider water. What is your relationship? How do you relate to water? Well, this is obvious, is it not? You know if there is no water, there is no life. Water is a manifestation of the creation of water. And as you know, the four elements have what is necessary for you to live, but they also contain that it can destroy you. With too much water, too much rain, you have floods. Fire at nighttime camps have been a company of humans for thousands of years. But you also know that fire can be very destructive. And the air that you breathe, of course, without it, you would not survive. But the air can also blow strongly. And there are many tornadoes and hurricanes that are extremely destructive, as you know. And there is the earth, Mother Earth, as you refer to her. Beautiful. Without the earth, it would not be possible to grow any crops. Man would not survive. But the earth can also produce earthquakes that can kill many, many people. So, your relationship with the four elements are obvious.
Let us consider from another perspective. How do you relate with the material world? Then we will consider the vegetable. Then we will consider the animal and then we will consider the humans. I want you to imagine now you are walking barefoot on the sand and you allow the water to wash your feet. And it is so pleasurable, nice sunny day, gentle breeze and it's perfect. And you look down and you see a shell and you bend down and you pick it up and you look at it and you hold it, you caress it, oh it's beautiful and you love the colour. Maybe you've done this in the past. Maybe you put it in your pocket. And maybe you have taken it home and put it in a jar with other seashells or pebbles. So, what have you done? You have related to that seashell. You have picked it up. You have removed it from its place and put it in another place. You have put your thoughts and to some extent your feelings into that seashell. Now I ask you, do you think the seashell has related to you? There is consciousness in everything. It cannot be otherwise. Remember what I previously said, the created can never be separated from the creator. There is consciousness. There is unconsciousness. There is self-consciousness. You may ask yourself, well, does a seashell have self-consciousness? Well, the short answer is, no, of course it does not. But it is and remains a manifestation of consciousness. Well, this is something perhaps you have not thought of before. How do you relate with your material world? The sun is vitamin D. It gives heat. It gives warmth. It gives light. And it also burns. You may say to yourself, well, everything is like a two-edged sword. Well, yes, it can be. But the important thing is your relationship, how you relate to everything you see in your material world.

Let us move now to the vegetable world or the vegetable kingdom or the vegetable dimension. How do you relate now to vegetation? Well, I am sure you all love nature. How can you not love nature? The trees, the grass, the birds, the flowers, the bushes. Everything again, is a manifestation of consciousness. It is a creation of the Creator. Yes, of course it is. And it has consciousness. Yes, of course it has consciousness. You all know the Earth is a living being. And everything on it is alive and conscious. So how do you relate now? When you see a rose, for example. If it is close at hand, you reach out to bring it closer and you smell it and you enjoy the perfume. And hopefully at that moment you give thanks to that rose. You relate to that rose by thanking it, enjoying it. And do you think that rose or anything else you would like to choose also relates to you? Do you think the flower knows that it has consciousness, that it has been touched by human? Well, the short answer is yes. The vegetable kingdom, they have their own hierarchy of spiritual beings. Of their hierarchy. Their order of angelic beings. You have heard, I am sure, of the elemental spirits. The fairies, the gnomes, the elves. And all the other beings. Right up to the devas and the sentinels of great trees. If you could see them, they are beautiful. So beautiful. And they have been. And they still are. People who have the ability to see. And to draw and paint. Beautiful paintings of these beings. The way you relate to what you see and appreciate, gives these things an opportunity to acknowledge amongst themselves that they have been noticed and their beauty has been appreciated by humans. And they are thankful and greatly appreciative of that. How do you relate to the food that you prepare to eat?

How do you prepare the vegetables? Ideally, with a loving care and thankfulness. Because without them, of course, you would starve. Now let me tell you something. The vegetable kingdom. All. They are able to communicate amongst themselves. They know, for example of what you feel about them. Those of you who buy plants or flowers and you have them at home. If you love them and look after them. They are aware of that. And that makes them so happy. The food that you eat, for them it is Paradise. To be eaten and to be enjoyed by human. That is the peak of their existence. That is why they are here. To feed you. And so obviously it is so necessary for you to prepare the food that you put into your mouth with kindness, with love, with appreciation and thankfulness. Yes. But you all know. That that is not the case. In general. It is impossible.

There are many things that I could mention about the vegetable kingdom but it is suffice to say that the consciousness, the general level of consciousness within the vegetable kingdom is exceedingly high. They are aware. And they have feelings. Yes. Plants have feelings. Trees have feelings.

Let us now move to the animal kingdom. How do you relate to the animals? Let us begin with a very simple example. Most of you have had or still have a pet. A domesticated animal. A dog or a cat. Those of you who have a dog. You know what they say, Man's best friend is a dog. Maybe. Just maybe. The first time you have witnessed unconditional love, it has been through the eyes of your dog. That dog has unconditional love for you. And you see it. And when you see it you feel it. And that's why you love your dog in return. That dog would give its life for you. You know that. And there are those of you who would give your life for your dog. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the look of unconditional love was also visible in the eyes of humans? Well. There are instances of course. But very, very few. Again, within the animal kingdom of course, there is consciousness. There is self-consciousness. Yes. They have feelings. They have ideas. They have great skill. They have intelligence. But they don't have what a human being has. They do not have the desire to kill just for the sake of killing. An animal would kill to eat and to survive and there is a chain an ecological train within the animal kingdom as you are all fully aware of, everything is planned that way.

Just think for a moment just for a moment the wonderful work of the life carriers that have worked for millions of years in order to prepare this planet for life. Well, I don't wish to talk at length about this because it is such an enormous subject but of course it takes billions of years for a planet to be finally ready for a human being. Just like a garden, it needs preparation etc. It needs landscaping. It needs an expert gardener to bring in the shrubs and the flowers and the trees and all the rest of it as you are fully aware of. And this is how it was of course in the first garden with Adam and Eve as you know. Many people have forgotten I'm sure, that throughout the whole of creation on the vegetable level of creation every plant, everything that was necessary to cure any and all of your ailments was there ready for you. There was never any need for chemistry and to put tablets into your systems. What has taken place although many, many centuries of course is that knowledge that wisdom about the plants and its health properties have been largely forgotten. There are still some places especially in China where this knowledge still exists and they have herbal medicine, natural medicine.
It is such a tragedy that through overpopulation, it became necessary for mass production of everything. When ideally and originally the planet of Urantia was only meant to support between two and a half to 3 billion maximum and you know now that that is not the case. So, of course mass production of everything has become necessary for centuries now. An export and import from different countries around the world so the food is available throughout the year. The problem is of course it does not have, it cannot have the same quality, the same taste, the same health-giving properties that food produced naturally as had in the past. How do you relate to these things now, every day? Well, it is habitual. Your way of life is so demanding. You have hardly any time to avail yourself of natural food, of natural things. If you do have, they are available. You know they are very expensive. So, it is much easier, much cheaper to buy food of a lower quality. You are all aware of this and you've come to accept it because in fact you have no choice and that therefore is understandable.

Let us now move to your human relationships. How would you relate to your brothers and sisters? Well, you can only answer that for yourselves. We just talked about unconditional love for the pet dog demonstrates continually for his master. You know this to be true because you have seen it and experienced it for yourself. Has there ever been any human on this planet to express unconditional love for all brothers and sisters? Well, I can only think of one and you all know, I am referring to Jesus. But I will add, the early years of Jesus was just like any other boy. He rough and tumbled it with his playmates and had a wonderful time. But he was always kind and considerate. He was never a bully, far from it. He was also of a gentle nature. But he was strong, a strong lad and a handsome lad. And later on, of course, yes, he was able to express unconditional love, even for those who crucified him. Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. So, there we have an example, an inspiration for the rest of us to relate in a similar way to our brothers and sisters. Oh, how difficult is this? How difficult is this? We all have friends. We all have families. Do we have an enemy? Can you turn an enemy into a friend? A worst enemy can become your best friend. How to turn the tables around? That can only be done with love. And if you cannot face an enemy, face-to-face, literally face-to-face if that is impossible, at least you can try to be sincere in your desire to turn the tables by sending that person light and love as sincerely as you possibly can. But this light, everything else needs practice. It's easy to do with friends and family, but it's not easy to do with friends and family. It's so, so much more difficult to do it with a so-called enemy. And this is why, in fact, they say an enemy can really be your best teacher because it is an opportunity for you to learn something so fundamental. Turn an enemy into your friend. And the only way you can do that is with love.
Love literally is the strongest force of all because it is the only force that comes from the Father of all. It's unconditional love. His consciousness, His creations, He has created on all levels, physical, vegetal, animal and human, and the three upper levels which we have not mentioned yet. So, spend some time thinking about how you relate to your fellow man. If there is someone you can identify as an enemy or someone that has hurt and offended you, or for whatever reason do not let that situation stay unresolved. If you cannot sort it out face-to-face then do the only thing available, and yet the best if it is sincere, it is love coming from your heart and it will be received by that person. Obviously unconsciously, that person will not be aware of that to begin with, but later on you will see a change in that person. Lemuel has experienced this for himself, so he knows and has identified with this. And I know it to be true. Of course, I am Lemuel's thought adjuster.

Now, how do you relate to the spiritual kingdom? Well, you are here because of your desire to find out more that was missing in your life. To become an Agondonter, as you all know, means that you have faith in things that are invisible. And yet, you have many times experienced the invisible. As proof, yes, you all know this to be true. You cannot see perfume, but you can smell it. You cannot see the wind, but you can see the result of a high wind. You can see the trees and the branches dancing in the wind. Just because something is invisible, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. As wonderful as your five human senses are, they are extremely limited. You are aware of that. The animals can see much more than they can see. You all know this to be true. How do you relate to that which will remain invisible? And yet, it is something that you can feel. And this comes from within. And this is the first thing that you can relate to that is not outside of yourself, it is something from within and it is something that you can feel. Yes, you can feel it. It really becomes tangible, the joy that surges from deep within your being, that makes you want to stand up and jump up and down for joy with your arms raised, praising the Father and thanking the Father. This is how you can relate the Spirit to the invisible. It doesn't matter that it's invisible. You don't need visible proof because you have your proof through your heart and through your feelings. This is how an Agondonter relates to the Spirit. And this is how your faith increases.

All of you here, on this call today, and all of those who will listen to the recording later on, all of you are relating to that which you have interest in. This relationship will lead you further and further into yourself, into your real being, to discover what Lemuel and others of you have discovered, your real self, your beloved indwelling Father fragment, your Thought Adjuster. This is your true relationship, the relationship that one day will make you into one being. You all know this. Your mutual destiny, your Thought Adjuster and yourself, your Thought Adjuster is pre-personal. Your personality and your Father fragment will one day fuse and you will become God. In God's consciousness. Well, that's the most wonderful type of relationship, of course, you can have.
To repeat, consciousness is life. Remember, the created can never be separated from its creator. What happens with a human is that you become one with the creator. That is a true relationship. And the best. I thank you for listening. Thank you, Lemuel. That's all I have to say. I bid you all a very good day. Thank you.

Lemuel
Thank you, beloved. Thank you. Well, where are we? Let me refresh my page here. Oh, we have 20. So that's a goodly number. Let me see. Who can I welcome? I didn't see before. Well, there's names and numbers. Oh, there's Donna and Larry Whelan. And the others are just names and with numbers. Anyway, very good. And a very good afternoon or evening to you. And you're so very, very welcome. Thank you. Well, we still have a quarter of an hour to go. Let me see if… Just give me a moment now, please.

Unknown
No, David. Nothing? No, I'm not. No, David.

Lemuel
Why am I hearing that when you're all supposed to be muted? Why is that? I don't understand that. Ron, if you don't mind, I would like to come to you now, and I will unmute you, and hopefully you will have something to say. Are you there, Ron?

Ron
Yes, I am. Can you hear me all right?

Lemuel
I can hear you fine, Ron. Thank you. Yes.

Ron
All right. Let me check for you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. I am experiencing some problem with the connection, Ron. That isn't your fault. It is the telephone service that is having a bit of a problem.

Ron
I am also aware just a minute that we have 21 on the call because I'm also using the device. And we welcome you, Charlie. In any case, this. Most of you know that I put on the discussion forum this morning the idea of a date for the return of Michael to this planet. I have not heard back from anyone, including Michael, to the planetary communications. What does that mean? Well, by myself, I don't know.

Machiventa Melchizedek
But this is Machiventa Melchizedek, Ron.

Ron
Aren't you a surprise? I was waiting for you to return to me.

Machiventa Melchizedek
You weren't aware of being dropped. But then you picked me back up to speak. About the proposal to come to Urantia by Michael. Right now, we are proposing that the mission start May 17th. Today is May 8th. And for purposes of our own, we don't say much more about the date. But what has happened is this today. No one's aware of it. You, Ron, are going to be truncated out of existence, not. You are glad I hear you and you say, well, I'm transmitting. I shouldn't put my personal comments to this, but do.

Ron
Well, yes, folks, whatever is the problem in maintaining the vitality of the spiritual life on this organization has been fine. But the personal problems I've got is that it is separated from what they want to do with me publicly. So, I have been more or less asleep more than I want to be trying to take care of the visible problems of just staying alive. Today, I conversed with the Magisterial Foundation long enough to suggest that we have to be doing something more now than we have been doing. I am waiting from Elise for certain information. And when that is available, I will have more information for you about a new program that I conceived and I think it works and will support it. But right now, I have nothing more to say about what to do.

Second of all, I have promised more or less those who work with me to see to it that we have a Magisterial Foundation board meeting. That was kicked out for me for being on May 17th. But I am now informed that the board meeting is canceled permanently and that a new unification of the power plant that I have invented and the work of the Magisterial Foundation are to be separated. For that reason, I look at Michael or Gabriel or whoever to tell me exactly what they have in mind. Of course, I'm open to what they want, but I need to know what that is. And finally, I notice that there's a couple people missing today. I won't name them, but they are sound asleep. That is a result of Michael requesting that they not be part of this
transmission.

Michael of Nebadon
The following transmission is made to tell you, one, I am not going to be around much longer. And that is Michael of Nebadon. Ron is, and he will be a spokesman as you've heard him. Second of all, unless there is a positive response, from the person he contacted this morning on what to do, I am leaving that alone too. Number three, I no longer wish to converse much with Ron, but he's hard to get rid of. For that reason, he will hold his Sunday lightline exclusively with me and Gabriel and Machiventa when I have to be away. Fourth, the entire matter regarding what he calls the Western Transmitters is about over. I agree, they do Machiventa very well, but Machiventa is not coming to Urantia, at least that I know this time, for a transfusion of energy to Urantia to become a better planet. Five, the entire reason for the lightlines is exclusively in Ron's department. He put them together, he makes them work, and he has invited others to join, but they consider him too poor to work with. Number six, the following information should be heard. I am not coming to Urantia in a mission. Jesus will reflect me. I want it to be known that when Jesus is done, I am leaving Urantia in the capable hands of Machiventa Mechizedek. Ron cheers. Machiventa Mechizedek is going to insist that the Planetary Government be fully and well substituted with Mantutia Mechizedek, Manituba Melchizedek and any other Melchizedek I find necessary to prepare Urantia for something unusual. I have asked Jesus to do it. But he prefers to teach on Paradise. He will appear briefly and then return to paradise probably for the rest of his life if he doesn't take on a local universe. For that reason, then, I want it to be known that Machiventa Mechizedek may become the permanent spiritual person on Urantia and will see to it that Ron is well taken care of and that I no longer have to look at Urantia and what it's become for now. I will be back but not soon.

And now this to you, Ron. Where you came from, I'm not sure. Where you're going, I am not sure. But while you are here on Urantia, you're going to co-host a number of lightlines not only with me but with Machiventa Mechizedek and Jesus. Those are your three spokesmen for the foreseeable future. And thank you, Ron. For the rest of you transmitters, which includes Dominick and two or three more, you are asked to follow through with your time schedules for more of these presentations. But we're not going to call them lightlines. We're going to call them other things and that is at my request. The light has gone not from these transmissions but from the eyes of the planet. Ron embarrassingly says he's disgusted with the Middle East. I don't blame him. So am I. He also says that the United States ought to automatically extricate itself from anything to do with the Middle East, I agree.  And I am fully prepared to tell the Middle East if they ever ask, what am I to be done with? Well, the answer is probably an awful lot of inundation. Do you know what inundation is? Well, I expect so.

And finally, this to you, Ron. Your illness is not of the body. It's not of the mind. It's of the mansion worlds that you must participate with. You're looking forward to joining groups there. But I have this to tell you. Those groups. Are removed from the mansion worlds. And remember, I told you one time, or, six months, eight months ago, that the new mansion worlds are no longer where you think they are. I am not going to reveal that. Not yet. Where they are is still a secret. What they do is still a secret. Most of you today on this light line are going to be there, too. You are a part of this. Ron knows you almost individually. And he would rather not go to the new mansion worlds without you. I have a lot more to say. And I will use. Ron exclusively on Sunday light lines and any other time he's allowed to speak for a discussion on what is to happen now. You're going to see Jesus. You're going to see me in a different light. I don't know what you know, Ron, but you double emphasize that.

Ron
I feel good. Thank you, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you, Ron. And now this. Lemuel. I am going to shut this light line down from here. You haven't done anything wrong, but I want the phone to go silent. What I am done with saying this. Don't worry that the light line is shut off. Just listen to what I have to say. I have told you. That beginning on May 17th, or a little later, possibly, I will appear. Well, I'm canceling that. Jesus will be seen and you will hear him. It's up to Jesus how long he wishes to be seen. Your light lines will carry him. And by the way, the light lines out west. Ron says they're fine. They're very well done. But they need consolidated. If they do not choose to consolidate, they're done. No more transmissions. Number two. I want it to be known that Ron has no illustration to provide you. But that he has been hit once more by the goddamn insurrection. I will never permit this to happen again. In any case, Ron, you're free of it shortly. I am just a minute. I am not used to your bow, but you keep giving it to me more and more as I approach Urantia. I have never seen a human do it before. But you have done it consistently now for two days. I do not know what it means. But you do not either. But you feel it in your heart. And I will be back to you later today to discuss this.

Unknown
Regret.

Michael of Nebadon/ Jesus
And who may that be, please? Just a minute. Just a minute. We're going to end this call now. And that individual. If I may present it normally. May find life very difficult. Shame on you. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. I will have more to say. Later. I will announce it on the light line. And on the discussion forum. When I'm ready. Thank you. I thank you, Lemuel. Perhaps let me pass this back to you to close it normally. I am Jesus. Close it, please, Lemuel.

Lemuel
All right. Thank you. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you. All right, everybody. Well, a big thank you to all of you who have helped me with this light line. And, well, apparently, it's not going to be called a light line. In the future, so we'll see what happens next Wednesday. And I will put up a notice on the on the discussion forum. Until then, please take care of yourselves, love one another, and may God bless you all. Bye, bye.

Unknown
Gracias, Lemuel. Get well.

Lemuel
Thank you.
Bye, bye.
 

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