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Greetings André, for me your publication was based on a topic of general interest, which I think is always very well received. But you have your own perceptions, however I am going to add a little more on this topic that deserves our attention. First, I must inform all of you that I am finding difficulties not only in publishing but also in writing and translating the text of what I write. Now I went over here to this translator who seems to be doing better.
   
What you say about the absence of the spirit of truth, I have also considered as a great disadvantage because the Adjuster, as the UB refers to it, needs the collaboration of this spiritual assistant so that the spiritual ascent and evolution of the human being is more normal. The UB says: "The flesh, the immanent nature of beings of animal origin, does not naturally give the fruits of the spirit, but when the nature of the material sons of God is added, then the Spirit of Truth is in better conditions to in communion with the Resident Adjuster, produce the precious harvest of spiritual fruits, if you do not reject this spirit, eternity is still necessary to reach the goal. More or less words. In other words, the task for the current inhabitant of Urantia is too difficult. Thanks

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[color=var(--YLNNHc)]Greetings André, the series atof approaches you make is interesting and I am not the one who can answer your questions, I would just like to express what I have been able to understand from what I have read in the UB, waiting for the intervention of Ron who is the one who can give the correct answers to everything regarding this matter.
The first couple of humans, Andon and Fonta, I understand that having been born as an animal species, they carried the superior germ with human potential, and it was precisely the descent of an Adjuster that allowed them to unfold human nature, I believe at 11 years old. old when they experienced self-awareness and it allowed them to escape and flee from their primate relatives. In the UB, it reads, more or less: "When the higher animal becomes aware of itself, the higher animal appears"
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Saludos André, interesante la serie de planteamientos que haces y no soy quien pueda responder tus indagaciones, solo quisiera expresar lo que he podido comprender de lo leído en el UB, esperando la intervención de Ron quien es el que puede dar las respuestas correctas a todo lo referente a esta materia. 
La primera pareja de humanos Andon y Fonta, comprendo que habiendo nacidos como especie animal, portaban el germen superior con el potencial humano, y fue precisamente el descenso de un Ajustador lo que les permitió el despliegue de la naturaleza humana, creo a los 11 años de edad cuando experimentaron autoconciencia y les permitió escapar y huir de sus parientes primates. En el UB, se lee, más o menos: "Cuando el animal superior adquiere conciencia de si mismo, aparece el animal superior"

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Thanks Ron, the solution to the problem is very simple, but I never thought about it.  I don't understand what the reason is to prevent such an inoffensive publication as my last one. But Ron, what happened with the previous publication, where you explain more to the respect.  Thanks for your attention Ron, and many successes in your lightline today.

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Thank you very much André, thank you very much for making my post visible, and now if this happens to me again, I can also count on your help, because it is very disappointing in this situation that you cannot see what you wrote.  Then the text seemed repeated because I  tried it again and it was when I understood that it was about once more, contrary forces as  Ron said.  Thank you André

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Please Ron again I need your assistance to become visible my post. Thank you

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Admirable is HerderPoeta's enthusiasm for being able to serve his compatriots in that area of so many needs such as serious illnesses that are difficult to cure.  I do not know how much possibility there is in the current conditions of the world in general, that his petition will be heard and that he will be able to see that laudable desire come true.

I do not doubt that many extraterrestrial races, such as the Pleiadians, possess advanced knowledge to help in this purpose with the use of revolutionary technologies that would be a blessing for our deficient and commercialized medical science.  How I wish we could hear some pronouncement from heavenly sources regarding this request from HelderPoeta.  On the other hand, while something is happening in this direction, I would suggest that you take advantage of your youth and undertake a smaller project, since always in a country as large and with a very solid economy as Brazil, it should give, to its extent, the fruits that you have proposed.  Just a respectful suggestion.


I came to read that Extraterrestrial Medicine is preventive and not curative like ours.  They teach their inhabitants not to get sick, living in harmony with
Admirable is HerderPoeta's enthusiasm for being able to serve his compatriots in that area of so many needs such as serious illnesses that are difficult to cure. I do not know how much possibility there is in the current conditions of the world in general, that his petition will be heard and that he will be able to see that laudable desire come true.

I do not doubt that many extraterrestrial races, such as the Pleiadians, possess advanced knowledge to help in this purpose with the use of revolutionary technologies that would be a blessing for our deficient and commercialized medical science. How I wish we could hear some pronouncement from heavenly sources regarding this request from HelderPoeta. On the other hand, while something is happening in this direction, I would suggest that you take advantage of your youth and undertake a smaller project, since always in a country as large and with a very solid economy as Brazil, it should give, to its extent, the fruits that you have proposed. Just a respectful suggestion.


I came to read that Extraterrestrial Medicine is preventive and not curative like ours. They teach their inhabitants not to get sick, living in harmony with nature, with everyone else and with themselves. Thank you HelderPoeta, I congratulate you for such a humanitarian spirit, success. nature, with everyone else and with themselves.  Thank you HelderPoeta, I congratulate you for such a humanitarian spirit, success.

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General Discussion / Re: AI
« on: May 08, 2024, 16:01:14 pm »
Thanks to you Clency for your permanent concern to keep the group up to date with the main world events.  And this topic of AI technology is very significant and too important to leave without trying to carry out the most extensive analysis possible of what may concern each of us personally.  A few days ago we heard in a lightline the Infinite Spirit declare that now, thanks to technology, it is more possible for Urantia (its inhabitants) to better assimilate the revealed truth, in this way or in more or less similar terms.  I interpret it as an insinuation for us to understand that our true nature is much more subtle (quantum) than physical matter, although we depend so rigorously and so inescapably on our physical body, as long as we follow the teachings of this three-dimensional dimension.  In this same line of thought, we can better assimilate that only the knowledge of the truth will make us free;  That truth being the discovery of a God who hides from us when we search for Him in heaven and earth, but who finally, when we direct the search within, we find Him dwelling in ourselves.  Like the one who was looking for his glasses and had them placed there on his head.  All of this makes it recognized as the deepest mystery, the mystery of the residence of the Universal Father in each of his creatures: the mystery of mysteries.  And for this very reason, I dare to speculate that the Second Coming will be quantum.  Thank you for reading

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General Discussion / Re: AI
« on: May 07, 2024, 17:59:56 pm »
I would like to intervene in this thread to express my opinion on the matter, because as Clancy says, this AI phenomenon has to do with everyone and although it is a topic for specialists like Dreamcat01, anyone can have an idea, however vague, of what it means. it is about. I particularly think that the machine and the human mind have their limitations and although machines are made, programmed and controlled by the human mind, it is possible that AI could reach levels of analysis and data processing that surpass those of its programmer. . However, in the few times that I have dared to venture into ChatGPT, apart from being amazed at the super speed with which it responds to the questions that I have presented to it, I am intrigued by the fact that when faced with certain very acute questions, it limits itself to giving vague answers where it can be concluded that there is no commitment that alters the prevailing conventionalism. I understand that there are already higher versions and that the results obtained correspond to the level of inquiry of whoever explores. All this makes me think that behind all this phenomenal system, there are superior non-human minds, let's say, celestial ones. It is my humble point of view. Thank you

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After reading with dedication Dominick's magnificent transmission of this master lesson of the Infinite Spirit and I understand that also with the participation of the Universal Father, I can only describe it as Ron said, as a superior conference and a brilliant dissertation.  Thank you Dominick and Deity of Paradise, I think it is a lesson in life and salvation.  Here is a material to study for many days given its transcendental importance

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Regards Ron;  If no other member of the Forum has been to the south of India where I was more than three decades ago, to meet SAIBABA, in Puttaparti, state of Andhra Pradesh, and I remained without going anywhere else for a whole month within of Prasanthi Nilayam, the ashram or sanctuary of SAIBABA, then without a doubt, it can be said that I know that area of the Indian Ocean that you mention, (which I consulted is more than 5000 kilometers away from Puttaparti), better than all the others.  Blessings Ron, here daily praying for you.

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I believe that one of the qualities that should characterize a true human being is compassion: feeling the injustice and suffering caused to any other human being, as one's own. I bring this to the case to applaud the decision taken today, May 1, (the date on which Workers' Day is celebrated), by the president of Colombia Gustavo Petro, to break diplomatic relations with the Zionist (genocidal) state of Israel. I see this action of massacring the Palestinian people that Israel is carrying out with the support, as always, of the Northern Empire, with the cabal and the camarilla, trying at all costs to prevent the plans of the missions of our Father Michael of Nebadon, and the return of Jesus. They are the same ones who murdered the Son of Man 2000 years ago and I don't think I'm wrong.

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Greetings Ron: to your interesting question about something that I had never thought of, my answer is that of course yes, which I understand would make the universal race, as they say, a piece of cake for everyone, but, ...it would also be the end of the Game, there would be no more challenge that I believe is the origin of all this great Creation, the Father would have no more "fun" to do.  That's my answer, but I don't suppose it's the absolute one.  Thanks Ronó

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I have been reading with great attention this explanation by Arthura about the growth of the soul and I believe that it is such an important subject that it deserves to be a topic that should be taught with greater rigor and with more emphasis, because I think that if all of us who seek to grow spiritually could If we have this teaching very clear, our ascension would be more secure.  Another masterful teaching, like the ones that Arthura has accustomed us to, where we can read between the lines, that until Lucifer's Rebellion, forms a crucial part of this Divine Game: "Man always tends to make the least effort and if it is not presented to him inevitable challenges, it stays where it is" (SAIBABA) . Thanks

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