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General Discussion / Pleiadeans and Head Coverings

« on: February 08, 2024, 12:31:59 pm »

Thursday February 8, 2024

 
Good morning All!

 
Good morning Father, TA, Michael, and Pleiadeans.

 
Thank you Pleiadeans for promising to be with us, and assisting us at any turn of the way.
Please do speak as you wish. Thank you!

 

 
I am restless and confused. You promised to clear the confusions, and show the way.
I have a peculiar suspicion that Ron's transmission from Hernon was interfered with.
Hello Hernon. Please clarify what is your wish about my using some kind of head covering when listening to you and conveying your messages.

 
I never did that before., I don't know of anyone else who transmits who has to use a head covering.
I got the impression there was something wrong with my head that needed "protection".

 
If I have had cabal influence in the past, 1. do I need head covering now? 2. Do I have a genetic disorder? My mother used to say that people who were crazy had "a hole in their head"! I thought she was being funny. But is there something to that?

 
OK, what kind of "covering"? A shroud? a veil? a hoodie? a hat? a ski cap? a babushka? a burka?
This so sounds like cabal! The quote in question is this:

 
To you, Carol, we are going to continue the messaging, but you must shield yourself. When you do a transmission from the Pleiades, always wear … one moment! … what we discerned as a head covering. You do it to keep warm. If this doesn't make any sense to you, there is something about your head that actually shields you from problems of interference. You get the Pleiades perfectly. Work on it, protect yourself Carol. Your troubles with your health will suddenly end, Carol. Be blessed. Beware, be caring. Stay the course, Carol.


 


 
I have had a lot of problems lately with interferences in my life, losing stuff, misunderstanding, etc, etc.

 
It wouldn't surprise me if Ron left that in the transmission to see if I would catch it.

 
Any word you would like to say, Pleiadeans, and Hernon? Thank you.

 
Hello Carole. I am Hernon. We are invisible. We also know when you humans are beset with invisible interferences. Even in the most ideal of condition, there will be challenges to your understanding and usages. The cabal is indeed about doing its thing, but you are admonished to be wary, and watching closely for anything that stands between you and the Father, between you and your Adjuster, between you and the pursuit of the right way.

 
Giving the cabal credit for doing the wrong thing is not our way. We know your hearts, and at the same time the stumbling blocks to your faith deep inside your soul. You are given challenges so you can exhume these skeletons, as it were, and dispose of them properly. Your faith is what the Father is interested in.

 
Do you wear glasses? Do you wear big shoes? Do you need a hearing aid?
What you wear has nothing to do with your faith or good works. Do you wear a "thingy" on your head? What for? Father can take care of any aberrations that may exist.

 
We want to talk to you people. We are not interested in letting little stuff get in the way.
Go in peace, Carole. We are here for you, We are here for the entire planet. All kinds of traditional accoutrements need to be dropped, so we can be heard better. Starting with physical things, and progressing to mental blocks, preconceived notions and prejudices, many things need to be dropped in order to hear us.
Your experience may just be a start. Thanks for listening. I am Hernon.

 
Thank you Hernon and Pleiadeans!

 
Carole

 

 

 

 

 

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General Discussion / More on "Trinitarian Justice"

« on: February 05, 2024, 17:22:59 pm »

 Feb. 5, 2024

 
Good morning All!

 
Some time ago, I asked Father the Prayer of Jabez: O that you would bless me indeed!
I asked that Father would show me the many opportunities He gives us for "Soul Growth". As humans, we are mostly unaware of the spiritual opportunities that pass our way, and we continue in our ways.

 
Here are some "opportunities" I have seen lately:

 
Confusion. About what happened in the past. About what may happen in the future. Confusion about the present. Things don't make sense.

 
Well guess what. That is normal isn't it? All we can do is take what we've got at the moment, and run with it. But. . .

 
I have been thinking a bit lately about "Trinitarian Justice".

 
God knows we are pretty much clueless about how to live and what to do and what to think.
But here is where "Trinitarian Justice " fits in: God doesn't judge us according to our faults. Rather He judges us according to our faith. He knows the many ways we mess up. But God is more interested in how we look to God for the way out, and for the clear vision needed to move forward. "Trinitarian Justice" is gentle. And the thing to remember is that it exists outside of time and space. That is why so many times we wait a long time, and may never see "justice" even though it is there! And at other times "justice" steps in with suddenness. Michael said humans do NOT have the final decision.

 
We may not know what the "Final Decision" is, or when it occurs, or what it encompasses, but the Trinitarian Justice we speak of here is the Rule of Law in the entire Universe. We are being supervised, however unknowingly. Wherever the justice extends, the law extends as well. The laws of goodness, mercy, and righteousness are totally backed up by "Trinitarian Justice". So our faith in God's rulership has everything to do with our experience of "justice". It is at the spiritual awareness level, through the Thought Adjuster, that keeps us on track. That is how, as spirit, we experience "Trinitarian Justice".

 
Extremely important LightLine today: from Elise, Arthura, and especially from Hermon, (Hernom)? the commander of the Pleiadean delegation.

 
Thank you!

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From The Old To The New Universe Age and What Can Be Said? / Re: Urantia Book Surprise History - see inside please 9 Dec 2023

« on: January 26, 2024, 19:27:49 pm »

Here is a link:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Waldenses
Carole

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From The Old To The New Universe Age and What Can Be Said? / Re: Urantia Book Surprise History - see inside please 9 Dec 2023

« on: January 26, 2024, 19:25:47 pm »

Dear RAZ, forum readers, and Ron ,

I believe the name of the group is Waldensians.
Britannica has a good article on them.  
Thank you!
Carole

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General Discussion / Re: Justice?

« on: January 23, 2024, 23:33:20 pm »

Thank  you Margul! And thank you Jesus, and Ron!

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General Discussion / Justice?

« on: January 23, 2024, 12:10:32 pm »

Transmissions Starting Jan 23 2024


Good morning All!


"Be still and know that I Am God". A sign on my desk. Here is a quote from the recent Light Line: 1/21/2024.

 NOTE:
  Ron here and I am in contact with MARGUL, the Trinity Teacher Son, to give you some pointers on this excellent post, Carole.


 I am using your post to write in since the questions are better left in the context of your post and the answers or views we have are better left to your questions for clarity.


MARGUL speaks:



"Urantia does expect to become a universe symbol of Trinitarian Justice."


What does that mean?  URANTIA IS A BESTOWAL PLANET, AND THE TRADITION OF PARADISE INDICATES THAT BESTOWAL PLANETS BECOME THE SYMBOLS OF UNIVERSE JUSTICE  as  they evolve toward trinitarian justice statues in their own self governments.  Urantia does show this at time particularly in the United States government, but the politics of abortion rights and Trinity values has scorned this US Supreme Court over too much temperance and far too little thought or life revelations.  Ron could be an excellent speaker to the Justices if they had any concept of how the child is prepared to be centered into the womb, and for that reason he (Ron) needs to explain to people how a new human being is produced.  We do not have time here to do that, but learn that the reproduction of a child in the womb is Trinitarian, and that the Trinity has ruled that the life of the mother must come first. 

POST:
A "Symbol"?
"Trinitarian Justice"?

MARGUL: "You are correct.  But you are not correct to expect man to understand what is not revealed, and cannot expect man to understand that life is precious and not a happenstance.  For reasons of State, Ron refuses to adjudicate any of this for the simple reason he considers most abortions the result of immorality, and refuses to take sides with the mother or the fetus.  It then becomes a matter of law, and the law is blind to revelation but not blind to constitutional interpretation.  Your United States Constitution is NOT a sacred document, but tradition has hammered home, that without the Constitution, there is no real United States.  IF the Constitution is changed, they reason, you inherently reduce the United States to it former associations of colonies and that is not country, but it is a federation.  I cannot use your reasons on earth or in the United States, to rule what must be said here, but I can tell you that the fetus is not declared human until about 5 and 3/4 years of age.



As I see it, Justice is an experience. It may be looked at as a "concept", but if Urantia is to be a"symbol" that implies there is a much bigger issue at hand that is condensed into a visual. Letters are symbols for sounds. Notes are symbols for pitch and rhythm. The "Ring of Laity " is a symbol of God's participation in our lives. Symbols surround us everywhere.


 
JESUS - "I ANSWER THIS ONE CAROLE, and please take no offense, but you are asking  for answers out of your ability to understand the answers.  Ron does understand what is to be done with the fetus if abortion is considered, and that is to prepare the fetus for full term in the mother, and put it up for adoption.  We do not like taking the life of a fetus either, and neither does Ron with his understanding the that Infinite Spirit, when the egg is fertilized, experiences a sequel eruption and paralyzes the mother's womb to receive the life sustainment of the higher spirit realms so that the child can come to his full term of development, and then proceed to the birth process.  Mothers who routinely wear no protection are failing as women to protect their birth right to have children, but some mothers get pregnant due to rape, incest, and others means we are not fully familiar with.  The FATHER  says to those mother's "KEEP IT UP AND YOU GET PENALIZED when you ascend to heaven."

"I AM JESUS - I do not intent to lecture people on abortion or State's rights, or other figures justifying those things you practice down here on Urantia by traditional appeasements.  War is illegal now when I arrive.  Anyone who deals with it as a routine matter will be disenfranchised.  I let the rest alone for now.  JESUS




POSTER:

If Urantia is to be a "symbol" then it has to experience the justice of the Trinity in a huge way.







MARGUL - "You complete this rather strangely Carole.  You need to understand that the entire matter of Trinitarian Justice is the Law of the Universe, and it is not a viewpoint.  Let it stand with you that GOD favors all who work hard to understand why they must heed the warnings of Justice and that is processed always through the Paradise Trinity.  Ron would have loved to have been in the Justice System, but he is far too pedantic in caring for circumstances the law abuses people with so often.  In any case the entire matter has been fully discussed with you now, and thank you for your post.  MARGUL OF THE PARADISE TRINITY at your service.  K"




Can justice be avoided? Ignored? Undone?    
"YES, but rarely forgotten and is eventually justified otherwise."


Can unfortunate victims demand "justice"?  
"No, but it is always given by the JUDGES."


Does the Judicial system of the government actually dispense "justice"? 
"Not entirely and you are aware of it qutie likely more than we.


Does the award of money constitute "justice"? 
"In some cases; in other cases, absolutely not."


Can the application of the right moral thing to do, undo past experiences?  
"It could but do not take liberties with that view."


Does "justice" undo cause and effect? 
"In time no, but in the world of Ultimacy, it can be reversed but never in time."


How do we know when we are experiencing Trinitarian Justice? 
"You cannot know that without being spirit."


What IS "Justice"?
"It is as you define it with these questions."


May there be some comments on this?
Thank you!

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General Discussion / The return and SER-a view

« on: January 07, 2024, 11:43:34 am »

 It is 3:19 A.M. Epiphany is the church season that commemorates the revelation of Jesus not only in the dedication in the temple, but also his baptism.
Dear Folks of the Forum,
This past Wednesday Light Line had some wonderful questions addressed by Amadon, and basically they are these:


 
How is Jesus going to return? and, what is the new Epochal Revelation going to look like?


 
(My first reaction to this one was "two tables of stone". (stop it!))
There is a famous quote from "Star Wars", "I can imagine quite a bit!" applies here, so here are my thoughts.
Since all sentient people have Thought Adjusters, perhaps they could all work together in concert. (I asked Ron about this some time ago, and he said there was no protocol for that. Father, could this be considered, please?)
When, at the battle of Jericho under Joshua, (interesting name, there), there went up a huge shout that totally scared the inhabitants of Jericho, along with shofars, trumpets, and the like. But I am thinking of the Thought Adjusters all saying "Hosanna! Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord! Hosanna in the highest! Glory to God, and on earth peace, good will among men!"
And of course, people who have never thought about God might be asking themselves, where did that thought come from?
Not panic, but joy. The walls of Jericho came "a-tumblin down". The walls of fear would come tumbling down. The TA's in each person would open up awareness of the TA's in other people,


 
Noah's flood (some people take very seriously) will be a flood of awareness of just how simple the solution to world problems can be. To just listen to the voice at our right hand and our left, a unified celestial input, in unity throughout the world, could be a foundation for the next big event.
Jesus could announce his appearing, and importantly, lead the whole world in a prayer to the Father for unity and forgiveness.
Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. And Jesus could explain the gist of the SER in his new mission.


 
The people will need a visible readable revelation to go by right away.
The second question is what will the SET look like and what will it contain?


 
I envision, like the first printing of the Gutenberg Bible, to make a limited printing of the SER, bound in beautiful embossed leather, with gold edges, and illuminated pages between each paper title. It could indeed be a museum piece, to be shown next to the ring of laity in the Library.


 
But then, my opinion here, the SER needs to be printed in individual booklets, with commentary in simpler language for the children. Each paper could answer a specific question to be used as titles of the papers. For the commentary for the children, the active tense, and shorter sentences may make it easier to read. And don't forget large print editions. Perhaps the translations into other languages would renew the languages of every nation. Getting it up on the internet immediately in Kindle form will help many readers.
Urantia book part three and four could still be available for their usefulness.
Some kind of community organization with the help of celestials to form study groups is already under consideration.
I picture Jesus leading the world every day in prayers. Maybe five times a day.
Make full use of the internet and TV and radio.
I think God wants us to use our imaginations. Maybe something good will come out of it!


 


 

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General Discussion / Habit vs. Free Will

« on: January 01, 2024, 10:16:39 am »

Good morning All!

 
Good morning TA, Pleiadeans, and all who are interested in the destiny of Urantia:

 
TA: Last night we heard an interview on CNN with an author and professor of a university, and recipient of an award for genius, who spoke at length that our destiny is determined solely by genetics and environment. He denied that free will had anything to do with the outcome of our lives. He said our choices had more to do with our environment and genetics.

 
It sounded to me like the perfect example of how supreme led us into the mess we are in right now.

 
People who think that personal responsibility doesn't exist are duped by the supreme philosophy. The interviewer knew something was not right, but had to shut the interview down due to time.

 

 
The whole issue at stake today with the Master Universe is about the real extent of free will on the part of human destiny. It is our free will that overrides habits of doing and thinking, that determines our responses to everything that happens to us. Genetics and environment do not altogether determine our lives. But it is difficult to quantify free will. It is elusive, and altogether spiritual.

 
We can determine our days, yes, by following our intuition, but intuition needs to be closely examined as to whether it is beneficial to all, and not just ourselves.

 
Our habits of thinking and doing arise as a result of trial and error, and often become obsolete without our knowing. The recent years have brought many changes in social awareness, environmental awareness, education, and many things that aren't taught in schools. Social media often muddies the waters, so that our own free will has to come to the fore to determine the clarity of our vision. Do we fall back into habit? Do we forge a new outlook?

 

 
Can free will override genetics? Free will can create new approaches, and innovative ways to take advantage of genetic difficulties.   It has often been said we create our own reality.  Free will can make adjustments to the perceived environment.  It can turn "can't" into "can".  

 
Our free will needs to be God directed, and used carefully.

 
Thank you TA!

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Pleiadeans Communications and Other Human Civilizations / The Pleiadeans discuss gratitude

« on: December 30, 2023, 10:53:31 am »

 
I caught the Tuesday Light Line that had 7 listeners. Ron reminded us to keep our diaries. And that the return of Jesus is not in the offing.

 
How can you give marching orders to less than a dozen people?
The new year approaches. I expect to play "Glorious Things of Thee are Spoken" by Franz Joseph Haydn for special music. It is a promise of a beautiful new day tomorrow.

 
Dear Pleiadeans, Is there anything you would like to say?

 
Thank you, Carole. We are still here waiting our marching orders too.
Waiting is stressful, and non productive. Unless it isn't.
Every moment of every day is an opportunity for thanksgiving.
Look for the things to be thankful for.

 
You gave Walter a note for Christmas, thanking him for many things. It was moving, and something to remember.
Yesterday, you found two violins in pawn shops that can be used for students or fiddlers.
That is what you do. You have three students waiting in the wings. Your life continues.

 
What we want to tell you is that reorienting your mind to thankfulness restores the humility that would solve so many of the problems on the planet today. You become an example of the bedrock of the reconstruction.
You cannot imagine the wellspring of gratitude that will bubble forth when the Missions are started. The pictures of "springs in the desert" and the blossoming resulting are well founded. Keep with us.

 
Thank you! Go in peace.

 

 
Thank you Pleiadeans!

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General Discussion / The nations of the Middle East are Abraham's Family

« on: December 16, 2023, 22:30:16 pm »

Thank you so very much for your Light Line of December 6, Lemuel.
And thank you Geoff, for the questions about the various nations that currently occupy the Middle East.

 
Machiventa is addressing the spiritual status of Abraham, and used him in presenting truth to the tribes that existed locally around Abraham. The revelations of Adam and Eve and the Sethite priests were becoming diluted to the point that Machiventa needed to intervene to restore the understanding of the One True God.

 
Abraham was informed he would have an heir. But as time would have it, Abraham got a little anxious, and jumped the gun. With Hagar, Abraham had a son Ishmael. Thirteen years later Abraham was told that Sarah would be the mother of his heir. It was Isaac. It was Isaac who had two sons, Esau and Jacob. These two sons each had twelve sons of their own, and started their own tribe. Jacob, now named Israel, and his whole family including Abraham, went to Egypt, and became a nation of their own. When they came back to the Middle East, Esau's many tribes were already there, and Ishmael's descendants in Arabia, and many sub tribes that arose from the intermarriage and interaction of all these peoples.

 
Now we have a number of Middle eastern nations that can all rightfully be called brothers. They are all family.
Melchizedek wanted to point out that the spiritual reunion of these brothers is coming in the "Lifting of the Veil", that is, the Apocalypse, (the meaning of the Greek term), and that these warring nations have to become informed of their familial status through the Regency. National boundaries come later. Along with spiritual understanding will come the appreciation that war is not necessary, and that through Abraham, "all the nations of the earth shall be blessed".

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OFFERING OF YOUR PRAYERS FOR THE ADVENT OF JESUS AND UNIVERSE WELLBEING / O Day of God Draw Nigh

« on: November 19, 2023, 16:38:59 pm »

Dear friends and forumites,

 A tune entitled "St. Michael" from the Geneva Psalter (compiled 1551),
has the following words which are so very pertinent today. . . a song for today!  

O Day of God Draw Nigh

 

O day of God, draw nigh in beauty and in power,

Come with thy timeless judgment now to match our present hour.

 

Bring to our troubled minds, uncertain and afraid,

The quiet of a steadfast faith, calm of a call obeyed.

 

Bring justice to our land, that all may dwell secure,

And finely build for days to come foundations that endure.

 

Bring to our world of strife thy sovereign word of peace,

That war may haunt the earth no more, and desolation cease.

 

O day of God, draw nigh as at creations birth;

Let there be light again, and set thy judgments on the earth.

 

Words by R B Y Scott, 1937

Music Geneva Psalter   1551

link:  https://youtu.be/HGwgaukcSwg?si=cNvSEn4KYi-YH9tw

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Music Compositions And Other Artistic Expressions / The Impossible Dream

« on: October 06, 2023, 14:36:33 pm »

Here is a song for today. . . The Impossible 
Dream sung by Gomer Pyle!
https://youtu.be/7Jkkmb6jEAU?si=wDTcCfy3ZWMXMPTH

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Music Compositions And Other Artistic Expressions / Re: Shine Jesus Shine

« on: August 26, 2023, 22:31:29 pm »

Hello everyone,
The lyrics here have an extra verse.  

Shine Jesus Shine

 

 

Graham Kendrick

 

 

Lord, the light of your love is shining,

In the midst of the darkness shining,

Jesus, Light of the World, shine upon us,

Set us free by the truth you now bring us,

Shine on me, shine on me.

 

Shine, Jesus shine,

Fill this land with the Father's glory.

Blaze spirit blaze, set our hearts on fire.

Flow river, flow,

Flood the nations with grace and mercy

Send forth your word, Lord, and let there be light.

 

Lord, I come to your awesome presence,

From the shadows into your radiance,

By the blood may I enter your brightness,

Search me, consume all my darkness.

Shine on me, shine on me.

 

As we gaze on your kingly brightness,

So our faces display your likeness,

Ever changing from glory to glory,

Mirrored here, may our lives tell your story,

Shine on me, shine on me.

Shine, Jesus shine,

Fill this land with the Father's glory,

Blaze spirit blaze, set our hearts on fire.

Flow river flow,

Flood the nations with grace and mercy,

Send forth Your word, Lord, and let there be light.

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Music Compositions And Other Artistic Expressions / Shine Jesus Shine

« on: August 26, 2023, 19:14:55 pm »

Hello everyone,
I found this song to be particularly appropriate for the times at hand.  
I hope you enjoy it like I did.
Song at Sunrise.
https://youtu.be/nTIGVIcHsFE?si=wjGBG3ktaEhM4RN5

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: NEW TRANSMITTERS.

« on: August 20, 2023, 10:41:39 am »

Thank you Evelio Rivas and Thank you ArthuRa!

 "We are already in this task and we want our partners who are very few to remain in faith and hope by strengthening their new capacities, on our part we will give assistance to everyone who looks up to heaven and asks for it.




Here is a song for today:
How Shall They Hear the Word of God

Words by Michael Perry 1982
Music from Choralbuch 1816 by Koch United Methodist Hymnal #649

How shall they hear the word of God unless the truth be told?
How shall the sinful be set free, the sorrowful consoled?
To all who speak the truth today, impart your Spirit, Lord, we pray.

How shall they call to God for help unless they have believed?
How shall the poor be given hope, the prisoner reprieved?
To those who help the blind to see, give light and love and clarity.

How shall the gospel be proclaimed that sinners may repent?
How shall the world find peace at last if heralds are not sent?
So send us, Lord, for we rejoice to speak of Christ with life and voice.

Love to all,
SongAt Sunrise