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My apologies, I left out or rather forgot at the last minute to add a very significant statement that Jesus made about this aspect of the I Am, that is, creatures in the likeness of God, when he said: "I am the Messenger of God, I am the Son of God" and finally when he supposed that his apostles were able to understand better he told them; "Whoever has seen the Son has seen the Father."

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After reading the interesting intervention of Lemuel's Thought Adjuster on the I Am and the Ego, brilliantly complemented by Lemuel himself and by Dominick, in addition to the valuable contribution of Valerie, I want to add an appreciation on the fact of those who ascend to the mansion worlds without knowing the Bible and consequently, never knew of the words of Jesus: "I am the way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through me", because I consider it very logical to think that the mansion worlds existed long before the birth of Jesus. We must start from a very specific matter such as that, like everything manifest, revelation is also evolutionary and Humanity existed long before the birth of Jesus as is logical to think. The bestowal of Father Michael inaugurated another very necessary revelatory era because the truth of the Universal Father had declined substantially, mainly since the time of the Lucifer Rebellion. With this, what I want to emphasize is that Jesus' words try to make clearer the need to understand that all human beings are children of God who, through that singularity (I Am), chooses to manifest his own glory. The struggle to face is the universal struggle of the spirit against the flesh: that of the divine fragment against the ego. Although, as we know, the spirit does not submit but waits with immutable patience. Understanding it is much easier than making it a reality. I just wanted to participate in the thread because I could see that in the end there was total understanding between Lemuel and Valerie on this very transcendental aspect. Thank you.

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With great pleasure Valerie, I imagined you would enjoy it.
It is very valuable that the name of Stainton Moses, with so much merit for the readers of the Urantia Book, has been brought to the forum and I consider that the only reason why after so much time has passed he has remained unknown to the public and his writings remain anonymous, must also be the work of the same, of that malevolent force that today is carrying out the genocide of children in Palestine and generating all kinds of chaos to prevent the Return of Christ.
I am pleased to share Valerie, thank you for your attention

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Excited as Valerie was by the information Ron posted, I went to Google for information about Stainton Moses and this link caught my attention on Spirit Teachings where we can read his biography. I have to see how I managed to read as much as possible but in the meantime I'll share it with you. Thanks Ron

https://dn790009.ca.archive.org/0/items/spiritteachings00moseiala/spiritteachings00moseiala.pdf

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My loving greetings to everyone. About three months ago, moved by the heated discussions that are taking place around current geopolitics and in particular the Colombian one, and also by the occasional controversies at the family level on religious issues, I wrote the following approach that I publish without any special purpose, making it clear that I agree that we cannot load our exclusive forum with personal political positions, although I must also say that I enjoy it when they are presented. Thanks Ron and thanks Dreamcat01

NOTA: My apologies if the translation is defective




POLITICS AND RELIGION: THE CHALLENGE OF DIALOGUE If there is one reason why all human beings can be lumped together, regardless of their gender, it is because they are convinced that everything they think is correct, that everything they say is the truth and that everything they do is well done; exceptions to this attitude are so few that they can be considered non-existent.


I am brought to the subject of the discussions that arise around two aspects that, with sufficient grounds, can be affirmed, have motivated human activity both in the past, as they do in the present and will do so in the immediate future: Politics and Religion. That is, on the one hand, our social and family life, and on the other, our spiritual dimension. The first has to do directly with our material, mortal environment, and the spiritual life with the survival of the soul. Although each one seems independent of the other (and this due to causes beyond the control of Humanity itself), both the material and the spiritual are realities that complement each other and cannot exist without the other. However, this divorce designed millennia ago by heavenly rebels (like the Rebellion of Lucifer), has prevailed to this day and where it has the greatest impact is on these two aspects mentioned of Politics and Religion, because they are markedly the most sensitive and the ones that most affect our daily life.

Very often, the warning is given as a preventive measure to avoid conflicts that may arise and escalate into more serious physical violence between groups of relatives, friends and other types of associates: “No discussion of politics or religion is allowed here,” without taking into account that it is precisely these two disciplines that can gauge the quality and degree of relationships and bonds between humans. If respect, consideration and affection governed as they should the relationships between civilized societies, thinking differently with respect to any topic, but in particular with respect to politics and religion, should not for any reason become the cause of interpersonal ruptures or distances. This principle is fundamental to be able to grow and ascend on the spiritual path in which love, true love, which is unconditional by nature, constitutes the essential feature that denotes the presence of divinity inherent in the entire creation: “God is Love and if you develop love, you do not need to develop anything else.”


In any case, it is a rather intricate subject that makes it difficult for us to get out of the quagmire in which we have fallen, trapped as useful idiots, defending absurd superimposed positions, reduced to the simple role of miserable bio-puppets that repeat pre-programmed behaviors, a state that I have come up with the idea of calling Wireless Man.

The work done by our “programmers” (captors) has been, without question, admirable and monumental, to the point that the captives, as a general attitude, render a cult of fidelity and admiration to their captors, according to multiple pre-established programs, within which conflicts and confrontations, among others, form the basic pillars that formulate human behavior. In this argument, I maintain that it is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to establish a constructive and harmonious dialogue or debate on politics and religion. These discussions tend to almost always lead to irreconcilable polemics. The emphasis must be placed on the religious issue because it happens to be the one that concerns us most as mortals in this earthly life experience.



Without falling into the same error that I am trying to point out, my motivation is to expose the existing problem, hoping that my reasoning will lead to reflecting on the need we all have to "transcend the quota of animality with which we are born," the root of all our disagreements.
Any Christian believer repeats a whole series of dogmas learned since childhood, at home, at school or at church, clinging to them as unquestionable truths, sufficient, according to them, to increase their faith in the truth of God, for example, "God is Omnipresent", and other statements that they proclaim as banners to emphasize that they know the total truth about their salvation from ignorance inherited for millennia; but like Pontius Pilate, who after asking the question "What is Truth?", would not wait for the answer from the Nazarene for fear of knowing it, in the same way, in their great majority, these believers fear deep down to know the truth of their existence. They hear preaching about eternal life, but as much as they testify that they do not fear death, they tremble at the slightest chill and prefer to hand over the responsibility of God's truth (the greatest of all) to religious leaders, churches and sacred texts, and they settle for repeating Bible verses by heart, convinced that it is the same saving word of God, without discerning that the Truth can only be found within themselves and never outside, no matter how big, beautiful and renowned the church or cathedral is, and how qualified and eloquent the preacher in the pulpit.

But again, I am not going to fall into the same error that I am trying to point out, of pretending to be the bearer of absolute truth, as often happens among Christian fanaticism multiplied and divided around a single God.


What remains for us is to discern about facts and realities that orbit around us in a permanent way, like birth and death. Our body, as important and fundamental as it may be for this material life, is only a vehicle of temporary manifestation for the soul, but within that perishable body, there exists a divine core, pure spirit or divine gift, the path and goal of every spiritual aspirant. Here lies the secret of eternal life that brings mortal and finite man closer to the reality of an eternal and infinite God.


It can be said that anyone who seriously delves into the search for the truth of who they are, or self-knowledge, will reach the conviction that: "We are not a body with a soul, but a soul with a body" and from this basis, undertakes the transformation of an arduous existence full of uncertainties, into a life full of abundant hope.

Life can be conventionally understood as a Divine Game, which, unlike any other game that imposes and is governed by many rules, the Divine Game is governed by only one rule: INTEGRITY, or fair play, throughout all spheres of existence.
Ultimately, and in conclusion, when reflecting on politics and religion, and on the complexity of human existence between the material and the spiritual, it is essential to remember that true consensus lies not in uniformity of thought, but in cultivating mutual respect and deep understanding. Accepting our differences not as barriers, but as opportunities to grow together in wisdom and compassion, is the challenge and promise of a Humanity that seeks to transcend self-imposed limitations and reveal and transform into action the Truth that resides within each one of us.

Octavio Cervantes Pava MD, Barranquilla, June 23, 2024

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Some Thoughts Muses & Meanderings / Re: THE DEVIL'S MINEFIELDS
« on: September 11, 2024, 10:16:20 am »
Greetings Dreamcat01, and thank you for your important and accurate comment, very consistent with the historical truth that our suffering nations of the rest of America have experienced. In the past I remember having read a comment of yours with the same approach, only now much broader and more critical. I think that the policy of the United States of America towards our countries obeys a plan based on seeing us as they say: "our backyard." 
I guess it must be because of the disastrous history that, as you say, nothing is taught in schools about "the backyard," because the majority of North American citizens would reproach and condemn, as you do, such a ruthless history of crimes, plunder and murders that continues to this day. Did you know that not even a week ago the presidential plane of Nicolás Maduro, president of Venezuela, was seized by the United States government in the territory of the Dominican Republic with the complicity of the president of this country, claiming that its purchase was made illegally? All because Venezuela put an end to the interference of the Empire in its nation. But this is just a small sample of the chain of abuses that you can find s9ummarized in a renowned history book written by Eduardo Galeano: The Open Veins of Latin America. Thank you very much Dreamcat01 for taking the time to bring to the forum this part of the ignored history of our America. But I trust that, as you say, with the entry into activity of the Magisterial sons and the return of our beloved Jesus, all this imperial policy will come to an end. For now we can only hope that PH will turn out to be a second John F. Kennedy.
 

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Some Thoughts Muses & Meanderings / Re: THE DEVIL'S MINEFIELDS
« on: September 09, 2024, 14:52:23 pm »
My greetings Dreamcat01, without entering into a discussion of your comment, which without a doubt reflects your great mastery of the subject, I just want to recall the comment made by our Nobel Prize winner Gabriel Garcia Marquez (Colombian), who, on the subject, more or less said that he did not understand how the people of the United States, a country that he admired so much for its organization, administration and development on all fields, were so careless when it came to choosing a president. There are also those who think that the president in the United States is only a decorative figure because the one who decides and directs is the so-called shadow government (Pentagon?). 
I can only give my opinion on notable facts of the oppressive foreign policy that the Empire exercises and has exercised (the people are another thing) that I can find out about and verify, especially here in Latin America. 
Very good comment DreamCat, thank you. 

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General Discussion / Re: Heads Up - New Information Available
« on: September 04, 2024, 09:00:37 am »
Hi Dominick, thanks for your attention. I just wanted to get the idea of chatGPT about the forum, so my question was very simple: what is the Sera forum?
However, since the answer I got was quite accurate, I assumed that at least in that approach Ron could be mentioned as a generator and relevant figure. Thanks Dominick
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General Discussion / Re: ChatGPT and Serara Forum
« on: September 03, 2024, 18:35:23 pm »
Greetings: Here to share with you the result of the query I made to ChatGPT about what they could tell me about the Serara Forum. Interesting but it leaves unmentioned the prominent leadership of Ron Besser and the creator father Christ Michael, as the central figure of the Forum, from my point of view. Thank you.


The Serara Forum is an online community and discussion platform focused on spiritual topics, particularly those related to the teachings of The Urantia Book and various other revelatory texts and transmissions. The forum is named after Serara, who is considered by some members to be a spiritual figure associated with the mission to prepare Earth for significant planetary changes and spiritual upliftment.
Key Aspects of the Serara Forum:

  • Spiritual Discussions:
  • The forum hosts a wide range of discussions on spirituality, cosmology, theology, and esoteric knowledge, often drawing from The Urantia Book and related spiritual transmissions.
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[li]Celestial Messages:[/li][/list]
  • Many forum members believe they receive and share messages from celestial beings, including angels, spiritual guides, and higher beings like Serara. These messages often pertain to spiritual growth, planetary change, and the evolution of humanity.
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[li]Focus on the "Magisterial Mission":[/li][/list]
  • A significant theme within the Serara Forum is the anticipation of the "Magisterial Mission," a proposed spiritual intervention on Earth led by Serara and other celestial beings to guide humanity through a period of transformation.
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[li]Community and Fellowship:[/li][/list]
  • The forum serves as a space for like-minded individuals to connect, share their spiritual experiences, and support one another in their spiritual journeys.
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[li]Speculative and Interpretative Nature:[/li][/list]
  • The discussions and beliefs on the Serara Forum are often speculative and interpretative, with a strong emphasis on personal spiritual experience and revelation.
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Important Considerations:

  • Diverse Beliefs: While the forum has a core focus on certain spiritual teachings, the beliefs and interpretations among its members can vary widely.
  • Non-Mainstream: The ideas discussed on the Serara Forum are generally considered non-mainstream and are often viewed with skepticism by those outside the community.

If you're interested in exploring or understanding these spiritual topics further, the Serara Forum could be a place to start, but it's important to approach it with an open mind and critical thinking.

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Greetings Phyllis. It is really a pleasure to see you here on the forum and with those desires to be the star of the Sunday LLs again. Because I always thought that as long as Ron was there, the brilliant collaboration of newstarsaphire could not be missing. I have no doubt that you know very well the only rule of the game: Spiritually developed Integrity. Blessings

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NOTE: I was not able to obtain an appropriate translation for: 
"Los mesones a arremolinearse". Mesons of the atomic particle meson in plural. My apologies. If someone can help me with that translation, I would appreciate it because it would change the meaning, because there it is translated as inns, which is totally wrong. Thank you

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Ron, my gratitude for that very stimulating reaction to my post yesterday, an essay that I have no doubt, as you say, SAIBABA led me by the hand. I am only now responding to your post because I tried to see if in the literature I have, I could find something about your inquiry: "Does Sai Baba ever give a hint of the future for man without getting depressed?", but I was unsuccessful in my search. I understand your concern, when it is assumed that those of us who walk under his protective aura should not give way to any kind of fear, He says: "Why fear if I am here?". But this fact only proves the truth that everything is a process, a transfer from a state of lack to one of wealth, but all, step by step. What SAIBABA places a lot of emphasis on is the omnipresence of the present time because it represents the past and the future; He says, "The present is the fruit of the past and the seed of the future". Thank you Ron for that "Yowsa SAIBABA", which Google translated in Spanish as Viva SAIBABA; wonderful!!

In relation to the reference that I victimize life, I think it may have something to do with the fact that unconsciously, I regret not having found this path much younger, without ceasing to understand that chronological age is not what marks the path, but the evolutionary momentum of the soul.

While we wait for you to be able to communicate with SAIBABA yourself and find the answer you desire to your inquiry about a future without depression, I would like to share the following poem, created by N. Kasturi, who was SAIBABA's official biographer.


LA VOZ DE SATHYA SAIBABA
Es la voz que se elevó por encima del horrible fragor 
de la espada sobre el cuello,
y el silbido del odio enflechado,
para mostrarles a los enemigos
que el asesino no mata 
ni el muerto muere.
Es la voz que calmó las agitadas olas
que se atrevieron a rehusar calmarse.
Es la voz que atrajo a los humildes,
a los poderosos y a los orgullosos,
ante los pies del que pastoreaba los rebaños
Con la dulce melodía de su flauta.
Es la voz que retumbó en la montaña
y estremeció las arenas del desierto.
Es la voz que resuena a lo largo 
de los cañones del tiempo
por el infinito y estrellado cielo,
y las cavernas de la matriz y la tumba
Es la voz que escuchamos cuando
en el interior reina el silencio,
o la desesperación nubla todo
y rompe las cuerdas del corazón,
o amanece el Día de la Sabiduría
Es la voz que tintinea dulcemente,
en el templo del más recóndito Yo.
Es la voz que alienta al pajarillo a volar,
a la célula a crecer, a los mesones a remolinear,
a los pastos a reverdecer
y al pavo real a extender su esplendor.
Es la voz que aconseja e infunde fe,
en la desfalleciente voluntad.
Es la voz que los sabios anhelan oír,
que lleva el río al mar
que inunda los ásperos callejones de los barrios miserables
con esperanza y nuevas de liberación.
Es la voz de la madre que acaricia a sus pequeños
aburridos ya de sus juguetes, sin consuelo.
Es la voz del Padre, recta y fuerte,
que conjura el temor y la debilidad.
Es la voz del Maestro, luminosa, bondadosa,
que nos revela a nosotros mismos.
Es la voz que susurra, haya oídos o no,
muy cerca, cuando todos desertan y se van.
Es la voz que se elevó en el vacío
!cuando tú y yo, éramos piedras!
Es la voz que nos hizo despertar y marchar 
del árbol al troglodita.
Es la voz que nos lleva y nos conduce,
del feto a los pies del loto
Es la voz de la victoria,
!el clarín de la esperanza!
Es la voz de la gracias de Dios 
Que ha venido en forma humana

English version: 

THE VOICE OF SATHYA SAIBABA
It is the voice that rose above the horrible din
of the sword on the neck,
and the whistle of arrowed hatred,
to show the enemies
that the murderer does not kill
nor does the dead die.
It is the voice that calmed the troubled waves
who dared to refuse to calm down.
It is the voice that attracted the humble,
to the powerful and the proud,
before the feet of him who shepherded the flocks
With the sweet melody of his flute.
It is the voice that echoed in the mountain
and shook the sands of the desert.
It is the voice that echoes throughout
from the cannons of time
through the infinite and starry sky,
and the caverns of the womb and the tomb
It's the voice we hear when
Silence reigns inside,
or despair clouds everything
and breaks the strings of the heart,
or the Day of Wisdom dawns
It is the voice that tinkles sweetly,
in the temple of the most hidden Self.
It is the voice that encourages the little bird to fly,
the cell to grow, the inns to swirl,
to the pastures to green
and the peacock to spread its splendor.
It is the voice that advises and instills faith,
in the failing will.
It is the voice that the wise long to hear,
that carries the river to the sea
that floods the rough alleys of the miserable neighborhoods
with hope and news of liberation.
It is the voice of the mother who caresses her little ones
Already bored with their toys, without consolation.
It is the voice of the Father, straight and strong,
that conjures fear and weakness.
It is the voice of the Master, luminous, kind,
that reveals us to ourselves.
It is the voice that whispers, whether there are ears or not,
very close, when everyone deserts and leaves.
It is the voice that rose in the void
When you and I were stones!
It's the voice that made us wake up and go
from the tree to the troglodyte.
It is the voice that carries us and leads us,
from the fetus to the feet of the lotus
It is the voice of victory,
the clarion of hope!
It is the voice of God's grace
Who has come in human form




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I enter this thread here because I find it very intriguing without even being able to extract its central message but only arrive at a series of conjectures, hoping that we can soon get supplements that will help us discern this material that I believe could mean everything we need to learn in this life as a mortal being with divine potential: "When the authority of Michael of Nebadon enters the realm of matter, time and space, either through physical manifestations or through a conscious breaking of mental barriers, I will leave it to your imagination" Does Arthura refer to the elimination of the energy field that, like an electromagnetic fence, has kept us prisoners and ignorant of our divine affiliation? I would like to have the ability to further analyze this entire extraordinary dissertation by Arthura who is already so notable for her master classes. My gratitude and admiration to Arthura, but also thanks to Father Machiventa Melchizedek, our creator father Michael of Nebadon. 

"This is Ron Besser.  I operate much of this communication work in order that there may be a free exercise of views about what is happening with the spiritual concerns for the people who do have a view of what is to happen with the spiritual side of life"

What I had in mind was to attend to Ron's call to give our opinion or express our point of view on the reality of spiritual life, which I feel moves consciences since it should be a concern for everyone, and in particular for the elderly, to be able to develop the most complete idea possible in preparation for what awaits us on the other side, and of course, if we manage to configure, by bringing together the known revelations and the added touch-up through personal imagination, a thesis that allows us to free ourselves from the stress of death, I think we can exclaim with joy: Hallelujah!!


It is understandable to admit that when dealing with a complex and multifaceted subject, what can be presented as a simple opinionator, only reaches an outline of a great truth. 

Finite and Infinite: I believe that here in this dilemma, lies much of the material on which we must work in order to break down the truth that underlies the relationship that exists between our individuality and the universality of God. The finite cannot encompass the infinite, this is as simple to understand as realizing that we cannot pour two liters of any liquid into a one-liter container, I bring it as a very ordinary example compared to the central topic of finite and infinite, where we deal with elements so dissimilar, or at opposite extremes: matter and spirit. Thus posed the equation, all the work to be done would consist of an operation of alchemy. Today it could be said that what is involved would be nothing other than performing a "technological" intervention in our biocomputer to update the operating system, ruined by forces hostile to the original divine plan. And this is what is happening, comparatively today, with the transition from conventional digital computing (bit) to quantum computing (qubit). No matter how erudite or intelligent a person may be, his current organic endowment, his brain and all his centers, glands and neural connections, are only enough for him to move in the three-dimensional world of space, time, energy and matter. And no matter how much Bible and other scriptures we may have studied (including the Urantia Book), it will not allow us to assimilate what the spiritual side of existence is all about. Only by transcending the law of animal life and treading the spiritual path will we be able to aspire to undertake the universal career that has as its goal the fusion with the fragment of the Father all the way to Paradise. This passage from the material (finite) to the spiritual (infinite) dimension should take place in a gradual and spontaneous manner as occurs on normal worlds without the intricate conflicting processes that the inhabitants of Urantia and other worlds affected by the rebellion have to endure. The upgrade I am referring to involves the mortal's access through the etheric interface (etheric or vital body) to a virtual energetic brain, manifested above the physical organ, as a reflected projection, which enables the human being to be able to interconnect, to communicate, with the world or spiritual reality, always through his mysterious monitor or Thought Controller, which would serve as a "system engineer" and everything else. However, it is important to keep in mind that this high achievement is only possible after having carried out the not-so-easy work of transferring the ego-based consciousness (head) to the heart-based consciousness (love), thus generating the sacred or energetic heart. From this center of pure energy, the heart of Christ, the commands depart through which the neocortex designs the energetic, reflected or virtual brain, which is where the Thought Controller will definitively settle, and from where, in collaboration with the Spirit of Truth, it will guide and accompany the finite being throughout the entire universal career.

A closer look reveals that everything is based on the expansion of Consciousness: from animal nature to divine nature, passing through human nature. I said that the most difficult work we must face is to subdue the ego and its cohort of pettiness and jealousy (SAIBABA). And we are certainly slaves of the ego, because if only we could recognize that this "evil" ego responds to a mental programming of slavery and control for millennia, it would be easier for us to follow the guidance of our Adjuster. We are warned that it is not spiritual knowledge but spiritual action that makes us advance. To work towards this purpose we have a whole series of guidelines from keeping the Decalogue (...), exercising human values (Love, Truth, Righteousness, Peace and Non-Violence) and the practice of the six virtues of the energetic heart: Appreciation (gratitude), Compassion, Forgiveness, Humility, Understanding and Courage. These virtues of the energetic heart, when practiced as a philosophy of life, create what is known as the "tone vibration of equality" (or the frequency of solution), which is equal to the frequency of Love (55x10 to the 24th power). An analogy that is made in this regard is to suppose that these six virtues make up a chamber ensemble (sextet) of six instruments; if even one is out of tune, it is no longer pure Love. Thus, SAIBABA's statement that says: "If you develop love, you do not need to develop anything else" is quite decisive, a statement that I use as a motto here on the forum, with the purpose of working on this wise assertion.
I hope Ron that this chatter has some useful content to alleviate the spiritual concern with which we all walk. Thank you Moses Ouko

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Thank you Lemuel for sharing your interesting, compact biography, full of very exciting passages and adventures. I think your story deserves to be expanded and organized as necessary, to leave it written in a book for what Lemuel has represented and represents for the group, with such an invaluable legacy of spiritual guidance. And what good news from Valerie who announces that she keeps all those transmissions from Lemuel, I especially remember those of the Sower and those of Calumny; it would be wonderful to be able to read them again. And thank you Dominick for the occurrence of this very pleasant interview; we hope that Ron also agrees to grant you an interview with the same purpose. And thanks also to Moses Ouko for the transcription.

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Thanks Dominick, it is the most logical and even unnecessary question.   Extraordinary revelation.  And furthermore, we get an explanation of why the great difficulty we often encounter in getting others to accept or agree with our beliefs.  Thank you

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