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From The Old To The New Universe Age and What Can Be Said? / Re: I am passing on a distrurbance in the force
« on: March 13, 2023, 11:50:31 am »
Andre and all:
I do not make myself clear enough in these discussions where I am in eternal conflict with a segment of the Universe that cannot explain why it rebelled and why I cannot fathom their ill treatment of anything I am designed to do. That said, Andre, your mind is a fine tuned instrument you love to use, but it seems it prefers to be left alone for taking on the change that frightens all of us, and for that reason you stand in abeyance. That means you do not want to understand that which has no application to you ever, and frankly, maybe most of those on this web site who read this inevitable clash of work that has no spirit affiliation except to get a pilot plant built and a historical record written by those in our population who record their reaction to the re-appearance of Jesus.
In your post response to me over understand how WTP works, you make it clear you refuse to consider the full understanding about electrical machinery that can take electrons and modify their structure just enough to force their nature to take on being a Muon. In that response you seem to make it clear that our design might be relevant, but that you are not designed to understand much more than what you were taught in the 20th century and to do that forever as far as you are concerned.
That is not a fair assessment of free electricity, but it does tell me, I think, you cannot convert to the idea that nature is far more resilient to its purposes than I allow it to be. In other words I change something that is not supposed to be changed, at least this way. That is a personality conflict with me and I am resigned now to the fact you have no means at hand to consume the idea further. IT is peaceful and non progressive as a relationship and as a teacher of these things, I cannot make any difference to you.
Further evidence suggests there is nothing in this world prepared to understand noxious fumes from burning coal is also an atmospheric death certificate. Something has to give and it is applicable to these divine Missions they are at wits end with people who cannot absorb truth without falsifying their own attempts to serve the FATHER. I am quite sure this entire matter of intellectual refusal to come to terms with unlikely changes to how nature works will cause the planet in a certain number of years more cause the planet to be evacuated. Then we will end this useless conversation where it is not that my explanation is bad, but that you just prefer not to believe it based on the ugly idea it is pointless to discuss it with you really.
I do stand ready to help, but you do not allow the premise of free electricity development to stand as science but hoc-us poc-us designs you do not tolerate. The disagreement between us then is "just is." and we let it ride without rancor but without further development.
I also remember that spirit has allocated information concerning your work to remind the Polish government that there are pockets of natural gas under the sea on the norther borders of Poland. Neither Poland or yourself can contribute to a statement like that, but the gas deposits are enormous and nearby and the State cannot manufacture a way to discover them without some serious drilling in that sea bed. Again it is not your fault, but a circumstance that is not workable, and I cannot do anything further than to answer what you ask and then agree it is hard to finish the idea because it is so physically daunting to discover gas deposits when they are covered so well. IT is an example nearly of what we have here, not just over free electricity, but in actual fact, the collapse of the 5th epochal revelation being entirely useful anymore.
How long do we hold onto a major revelation that time has obliterated as entirely true? Free electricity and many other Missions by the Magisterial Sons, and the divine Sons of Nebadon, and even Uversa and Paradise, have perfectly reconditioned but cannot convince the mind of man it must make adjustments too. I sincerely doubt that America survives the coming end of this century at all as it is now seen, and that the EU will have to construct several EU's before you have a unified Europe in the true sense of the word "unified."
As usual Andre, your posts bring on difficult discussions and I thank you for the opportunity for me to air my view that the controversy over free electricity and so on will melt away much of the good will the idea suggests for use by mankind. But I insist it is addressed and to be developed regardless of how hard it might be for some minds to take on unexpected knowledge that ratifies changes you do not want to make.
Many thanks.
Ron Besser
MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "You both are rapacious believers in the 5th epochal revelation. You both find it useful to talk about it yet, yet Ron knows more than anyone how badly skewed its truth about the unifying issue that God the Supreme once was and now does not even exist. For that reason, Ron, your body has terminated the use of spirit entirely, and it is designed never to turn your back on spirit so long as it convinces you it can work. IT cannot work Andre, and the body of Ron is terminal over the loss of the supreme importantly and fully. We cannot change the lack of spirit on Urantia, and it is greatly mysterious why Ron has to pay the price with death over a terminal arrangement of the supreme with Paradise.
"I am MICHAEL OF NEBADON, and I have to stay the course regardless of the turmoil this issue represents for mankind in general and in particular mankind on URANTIA. Urantia itself is in double jeopardy again, and this time there is no way out of Urantia problems by Urantia itself. Ron is totally correct that unless Urantia makes a good faith effort to understand those issues which have changed the old idea of faith and security in faith, the entire mater results in clinging to the idea, that if you cannot change then you are removed. Ron has made every effort for you to understand Andre, and you tell him you cannot and he says, appropriately, then you are a dead issue over what is to come and in spite of your willingness to step back and refuse understanding entirely. He has made it very clear how this process of fission works and you do not fathom preparticles in this style at all. Most cannot and will fight tooth and nail that free electricity is possible this way. Unfortunately it is the only way you can have it.
"I am trying to tell you Andre, your work is found but will crumble after you are gone mostly due to the fact we cannot maintain the old idea of a Second Return without the idea of JESUS fully cooperating in the old sense of appearing for the second time. For that reason Ron has adjusted to the idea, it is a second coming, but needs people to change their minds about why JESUS is now involved in government this time. He sees the deep need but President Biden is adamantly against quick change to anything and may have to be removed to redeem Urantia at all. And Andre if Urantia refuses to work as you are, the planet will be evacuated. Yes: EVACUATED!
"I dare you Andre to see the light before you fail entirely to understand there is a real choice coming. Ron has a lot of details the rest of you do not, and he fully deems it a sacred choice to remain silent over issues you refuse to address. We agree with you Andre it is next to impossible to force a mind, your mind, into new facts without understanding why old facts have to be put to rest and removed. You do it all the time with the Polish government, and with Ron all the time, and yet you two are friends in spite of it as Ron considers you top notch.
"In as the case may be, the entire matter today the 13th of March, it must end like the rest, and the EU continues to stumble badly over the lack of power and fuel and for that reason Ron has to make it clear he will not compromise with minds that say there is nothing to gain by using a patent which actually solves the riddle and yet it is laughed at less and less as some minds are beginning to see how it can work. We are establishing a MISSION to Urantia that takes that issue of free electricity and pressing it into completion with or without Ron at the head of this issue. He is nervously understanding there is no way out of the illness but insists there is no spirit commander who can understand it well enough to produce it either.
"Finally, Andre, it is our Course in Miracles which determines who and how this must approach the final days of nature on Urantia, for we must burn the atmosphere to get rid of Carbon Tetrachloride which is the culprit causing excessive earth warming. You half believe but do not know how that happened. Further evidence suggests we have to reclaim the north sea out of its oblivion and force land masses to appear all over it again and be rid of the Russian border impinging so close to the EU there will be nothing but serious clashes of civilization again. For that reason Andre stand back in the next six (6) months and allow the world to change without your say so. We are about to enter a terrible, horrible, issue with America and the EU and China and Russia and hope you live long enough to count the ways you are saved for the future for us and even America, as you do understand a lot about Ron, but fail to heed the need to attempt to change your mind over issues you cannot change but fail to understand.
"I am MICHAEL OF NEBADON, and Ron close your heart and head to the incident this morning you just fail to comprehend yourself as it is so dangerous and so highly volatile, it must not be allowed to catch fire again. I was with you this morning to control the issue, and it cost some lives, but there is nothing you can do for ME or them any more in this huge issue of SPIRIT on URANTIA. Andre can never understand it and you are not understanding it at all either, but SPIRIT refuses to die and it has in you fully and they are furious you can go without them. But Andre that is not your fight ever and we leave it alone for now. Good day. MICHAEL."
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I do not make myself clear enough in these discussions where I am in eternal conflict with a segment of the Universe that cannot explain why it rebelled and why I cannot fathom their ill treatment of anything I am designed to do. That said, Andre, your mind is a fine tuned instrument you love to use, but it seems it prefers to be left alone for taking on the change that frightens all of us, and for that reason you stand in abeyance. That means you do not want to understand that which has no application to you ever, and frankly, maybe most of those on this web site who read this inevitable clash of work that has no spirit affiliation except to get a pilot plant built and a historical record written by those in our population who record their reaction to the re-appearance of Jesus.
In your post response to me over understand how WTP works, you make it clear you refuse to consider the full understanding about electrical machinery that can take electrons and modify their structure just enough to force their nature to take on being a Muon. In that response you seem to make it clear that our design might be relevant, but that you are not designed to understand much more than what you were taught in the 20th century and to do that forever as far as you are concerned.
That is not a fair assessment of free electricity, but it does tell me, I think, you cannot convert to the idea that nature is far more resilient to its purposes than I allow it to be. In other words I change something that is not supposed to be changed, at least this way. That is a personality conflict with me and I am resigned now to the fact you have no means at hand to consume the idea further. IT is peaceful and non progressive as a relationship and as a teacher of these things, I cannot make any difference to you.
Further evidence suggests there is nothing in this world prepared to understand noxious fumes from burning coal is also an atmospheric death certificate. Something has to give and it is applicable to these divine Missions they are at wits end with people who cannot absorb truth without falsifying their own attempts to serve the FATHER. I am quite sure this entire matter of intellectual refusal to come to terms with unlikely changes to how nature works will cause the planet in a certain number of years more cause the planet to be evacuated. Then we will end this useless conversation where it is not that my explanation is bad, but that you just prefer not to believe it based on the ugly idea it is pointless to discuss it with you really.
I do stand ready to help, but you do not allow the premise of free electricity development to stand as science but hoc-us poc-us designs you do not tolerate. The disagreement between us then is "just is." and we let it ride without rancor but without further development.
I also remember that spirit has allocated information concerning your work to remind the Polish government that there are pockets of natural gas under the sea on the norther borders of Poland. Neither Poland or yourself can contribute to a statement like that, but the gas deposits are enormous and nearby and the State cannot manufacture a way to discover them without some serious drilling in that sea bed. Again it is not your fault, but a circumstance that is not workable, and I cannot do anything further than to answer what you ask and then agree it is hard to finish the idea because it is so physically daunting to discover gas deposits when they are covered so well. IT is an example nearly of what we have here, not just over free electricity, but in actual fact, the collapse of the 5th epochal revelation being entirely useful anymore.
How long do we hold onto a major revelation that time has obliterated as entirely true? Free electricity and many other Missions by the Magisterial Sons, and the divine Sons of Nebadon, and even Uversa and Paradise, have perfectly reconditioned but cannot convince the mind of man it must make adjustments too. I sincerely doubt that America survives the coming end of this century at all as it is now seen, and that the EU will have to construct several EU's before you have a unified Europe in the true sense of the word "unified."
As usual Andre, your posts bring on difficult discussions and I thank you for the opportunity for me to air my view that the controversy over free electricity and so on will melt away much of the good will the idea suggests for use by mankind. But I insist it is addressed and to be developed regardless of how hard it might be for some minds to take on unexpected knowledge that ratifies changes you do not want to make.
Many thanks.
Ron Besser
MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "You both are rapacious believers in the 5th epochal revelation. You both find it useful to talk about it yet, yet Ron knows more than anyone how badly skewed its truth about the unifying issue that God the Supreme once was and now does not even exist. For that reason, Ron, your body has terminated the use of spirit entirely, and it is designed never to turn your back on spirit so long as it convinces you it can work. IT cannot work Andre, and the body of Ron is terminal over the loss of the supreme importantly and fully. We cannot change the lack of spirit on Urantia, and it is greatly mysterious why Ron has to pay the price with death over a terminal arrangement of the supreme with Paradise.
"I am MICHAEL OF NEBADON, and I have to stay the course regardless of the turmoil this issue represents for mankind in general and in particular mankind on URANTIA. Urantia itself is in double jeopardy again, and this time there is no way out of Urantia problems by Urantia itself. Ron is totally correct that unless Urantia makes a good faith effort to understand those issues which have changed the old idea of faith and security in faith, the entire mater results in clinging to the idea, that if you cannot change then you are removed. Ron has made every effort for you to understand Andre, and you tell him you cannot and he says, appropriately, then you are a dead issue over what is to come and in spite of your willingness to step back and refuse understanding entirely. He has made it very clear how this process of fission works and you do not fathom preparticles in this style at all. Most cannot and will fight tooth and nail that free electricity is possible this way. Unfortunately it is the only way you can have it.
"I am trying to tell you Andre, your work is found but will crumble after you are gone mostly due to the fact we cannot maintain the old idea of a Second Return without the idea of JESUS fully cooperating in the old sense of appearing for the second time. For that reason Ron has adjusted to the idea, it is a second coming, but needs people to change their minds about why JESUS is now involved in government this time. He sees the deep need but President Biden is adamantly against quick change to anything and may have to be removed to redeem Urantia at all. And Andre if Urantia refuses to work as you are, the planet will be evacuated. Yes: EVACUATED!
"I dare you Andre to see the light before you fail entirely to understand there is a real choice coming. Ron has a lot of details the rest of you do not, and he fully deems it a sacred choice to remain silent over issues you refuse to address. We agree with you Andre it is next to impossible to force a mind, your mind, into new facts without understanding why old facts have to be put to rest and removed. You do it all the time with the Polish government, and with Ron all the time, and yet you two are friends in spite of it as Ron considers you top notch.
"In as the case may be, the entire matter today the 13th of March, it must end like the rest, and the EU continues to stumble badly over the lack of power and fuel and for that reason Ron has to make it clear he will not compromise with minds that say there is nothing to gain by using a patent which actually solves the riddle and yet it is laughed at less and less as some minds are beginning to see how it can work. We are establishing a MISSION to Urantia that takes that issue of free electricity and pressing it into completion with or without Ron at the head of this issue. He is nervously understanding there is no way out of the illness but insists there is no spirit commander who can understand it well enough to produce it either.
"Finally, Andre, it is our Course in Miracles which determines who and how this must approach the final days of nature on Urantia, for we must burn the atmosphere to get rid of Carbon Tetrachloride which is the culprit causing excessive earth warming. You half believe but do not know how that happened. Further evidence suggests we have to reclaim the north sea out of its oblivion and force land masses to appear all over it again and be rid of the Russian border impinging so close to the EU there will be nothing but serious clashes of civilization again. For that reason Andre stand back in the next six (6) months and allow the world to change without your say so. We are about to enter a terrible, horrible, issue with America and the EU and China and Russia and hope you live long enough to count the ways you are saved for the future for us and even America, as you do understand a lot about Ron, but fail to heed the need to attempt to change your mind over issues you cannot change but fail to understand.
"I am MICHAEL OF NEBADON, and Ron close your heart and head to the incident this morning you just fail to comprehend yourself as it is so dangerous and so highly volatile, it must not be allowed to catch fire again. I was with you this morning to control the issue, and it cost some lives, but there is nothing you can do for ME or them any more in this huge issue of SPIRIT on URANTIA. Andre can never understand it and you are not understanding it at all either, but SPIRIT refuses to die and it has in you fully and they are furious you can go without them. But Andre that is not your fight ever and we leave it alone for now. Good day. MICHAEL."
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