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US PATENT ISSUED TO BROADCAST ELECTRICITY / Re: WTP not recognize

« on: December 13, 2022, 11:40:11 am »

I know where all those brackets come from Weydevu.  When you copy text out of a web site, you copy all the html code that formats the copy you saved.  As a result those codes reproduce as text as our own editor formats them as text.

I corrected them for all of us and you do that, and remember this Weydevu,  When you get all that crap code you have posted, click Modify at the top of your text page in the browser, then select all, then go to the format in the ext editor and click on the upper most page on the upper right of the menu.  It removes all formatting  codes that appear and returns the text to a default in that text editor.  As you see I did that and those codes are gone.    Become a typesetter this way, Weydevu.  Thanks for the article.  I have no comment here.  Ron

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Series II Lesson 01 to . . . Ohrbeck Tapes - Michael of Nebadon New Series for Missions / Re: Ben-Amin & ARTHURA. Education & Law Concerning Citizen Salvation Status. V2 L50

« on: December 13, 2022, 09:50:06 am »

I only state the following Prozonov for your information.  I took this quote from Wikipedia as history:

"Relations between the NATO military alliance and the Russian Federation were established in 1991 within the framework of the North Atlantic Cooperation Council.^[1][2] In 1994, Russia joined the Partnership for Peace program, and through the early-2010s NATO and Russia signed several additional agreements on cooperation.^[3]
Russia has engaged in hostile threats or actions against several countries since the end of the Cold War, including Moldova (1992–2016); Georgia (2004–2012); Estonia (2006–2007), Ukraine (2014–present); Syria (2015–present), and Turkey (2015–2016), amongst others.^[4] The Russia–NATO relations started to deteriorate, following the Ukrainian Orange Revolution in 2004–05. In October 2021, following an incident in which NATO expelled eight Russian officials from its Brussels headquarters, Russia suspended its mission to NATO and ordered the closure of the NATO office in Moscow.<sup>[5][6"


 My own memory recalls Russia joining the NATO conferences and was taken almost as a junior member of the alliance after the Federation formation out of the old Russian Soviet Union.  Russia sent members of its national defense team to meetings in NATO with full anticipation of joining shortly.   Russia was allowed to instruct NATO and its alliance members what it wanted and how it wanted it as a mutual defense pact against future decisions of increasing hostilities by terrorist organizations against the Russian State. 



I also agree with you Prozonov, that Putin would be mad to trigger a nuclear bomb regardless of the fact it is "only" a tactical weapon and not a true atomic bomb.  War is going badly for Russia and Putin is losing face and Russia never permits that to happen for long.  The Russian Generals have made recommendations I am sure to avoid placing your back against a defenseless wall, and therein lies the great danger.  Putin seems to be fully in control what the army does, but might cave into a momentary satisfaction to teach the "rebels" a Russian lesson.


What Jesus has stated for Russians, NATO, and the United States to hear if they could hear Him, is that the spirit world of His work must stand down from working with Urantia, if anyone (and that includes NATO too), walks into a decision to use anything with even modest radio-activity.  Here is JESUS speaking again just in case this idea of contempt for man on Urantia includes using a nuclear device:


JESUS - "WE are sure Ron you get this perfectly well, and Prozonov is wasting his time to defend Russia over issues of the Ukraine war.  For reasons of State I keep this very simple to produce the following statement to you Prozonov:


"The Russian Federation has lost the war in its heart.  Putin knows this.  He also knows that people like yourselves will defend the actions of the Russian Federation to your dying day.  That is not a problem to Me or Ron, but Ron is merely stating that NATO was once an alliance member of the Russian Federation, and the promise was explicit that Russia become a peaceful member of an alliance that now includes Russia against the hegemony of China and the horror of insurrection in Georgia, and the hell let loose by terrorists in the Middle East and Southeast Asia.  Russia was happy then for the proposed protection of your territory against the aggression of the old Soviet-style Baltic States and certain issues Turkey than had against your state of affairs with its borders and Black Sea issues still not resolved properly with Turkey and Russia.


"I am not defending NATO and I am not defending the United States, but I am defending the right to warn all of you who insist that Putin has done right to do what he has done to Ukraine, and Ron and the rest of these members have remained silent so you may speak your heart and cares about anything you want.  But you are mistaken Prozonov when you deny that Russia was never part of NATO.  They were and probably are welcomed back if they ask for protection against the retribution of any NATO member against Russia over this stupid war let loose against a truly peaceful Ukraine.


"I concluded the following for all of you:


"There will be no peace until I reign over Urantia.  Ron is so ill he is ready to give up and lash his soul to our hearts and regain a sane life again.  Prozonov your heart is broken too and we say nothing further.  Worry not that I am for NATO or the United States, for I am truly for God and country in peace.  Let this whole thing stay out of your heart and concentrate on the fact Ron stated it correctly for me above:  'URANTIA WILL DIE if Putin lets any nuclear device loose on Ukraine regardless of the excuse.  I have a [JESUS] MANIFESTO shortly to read to all of you coming in moments today.  Let this ride in your hearts everyone, the UKRAINE WAR is not over until Putin signs a Peace Treaty with Me, JESUS, and then let us figure out the terms Putin must align with to save his own scalp when the full truth concurs. not with NATO, not with the UNITED STATES, or any allied country in the West, but it must satisfy me Russia learns a bitter pill to swallow over this aggression truly started by Russia into a Ukraine barely making it anyhow due to its poor behavior with Belorussian concerns as well.


"I am JESUS, and please understand I do not take sides; rather, I take heart with God over the horrors perpetrated against the Ukrainian population.  I stand down now with but one word to you Ron:


"Your heart is mellow but broken over the horror you feel being let loose on a situation in the United States government has cost you and easy entry into the world of wireless electricity.  They will rue the day they shunt it out of existence for the attorney you use is well aware something of great mischief is going on and it better be settled soon or the entire area of electrical distribution will come crashing down on the DoE and the Department of State (DoS).  For reasons of my own we stand aside momentarily, but the patent you hold is genuinely and carefully remolded in the State Department to do you well in a few days as they are bashing the DoE to let this matter off their reaction to your letter to them, and will bring peace to the matter quickly when the DoS decides the entire matter is yours to contribute as you please with their guidance.  Please let peace come to your heart over this travesty of unofficial espionage.  Biden would be furious if he knew it but does not bother this area of technical expertise you hold so well without making a noise too big to work it too soon. 



"Lastly, your heart is narrowing down the real truth Ron for your continued existence and it remains well and strong in spite of the dare of the cabal to hit you again last night to die quickly this morning.  You are in terrible thoughts and harm but that will pass later today when I read the SECOND BESTOWAL MANIFESTO to be released soon to you Ron for transcription.  Thank you for this opportunity to speak and I say to the angel at your side:  leave this alone or your work is over forever too.  Good day.  JESUS OF NAZARETH. K"


MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Ron, they are pressing you so hard you can hardly hear anything but you do hear the lettering and for that reason you are well recommended to stay at the computer momentarily and I will read the MANIFESTO to you securely done in a moment or two.


"Let it be stated no one is available to Urantia right now to help with this transmission, but shortly the FATHER will have his say and we wait for clearance to narrate the JESUS MANIFESTO to all of you as soon as I have clearance to speak to it.  We await that beginning now . . . ."  MICHAEL OF NEBADON.


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Series II Lesson 01 to . . . Ohrbeck Tapes - Michael of Nebadon New Series for Missions / Re: Ben-Amin & ARTHURA. Education & Law Concerning Citizen Salvation Status. V2 L50

« on: December 12, 2022, 16:26:20 pm »

Thank you Prozonov, I know very little history except as I lived through it, as so much of the Constitutional changes introduced by Yeltsin I actually watched live on our television stations, most of which all televised these historic events well past midnight into our earl morning, and in one case, CNN, stayed on it for 24 hours in one broadcast.  Such was huge news to the Americans in particular.  I do not know the European broadcast interest, but I suspect it was as deeply committed as our broadcasters were.

I itook a course in Russian History to complete my college degree in history Prozonov.  In the military the Generals believed that Russia had the seeds of a great nation and taught us to but to be very careful of the Russian bear until the current disagreements were done.   I love history and particularly the almost forbidden history of Stalin.  I understood the Tsars but not Lenin, but in today's context, I understand the oligarchs of the Russian revolution must better today than when I took those courses in college and the military.

I also understand that England has no constitution.  When I was there for several years I went to Runnymede to view the spot that their Medieval King signed his pledge to represent the aristocracy in the English Parliament then just forming.  This act of  John set the stage for later planners within the English government to decide it was an agreement ample enough to serve for the rights of representation in the kingdom.  To this day I believe the English government is probably superior even to our method, but quite honestly, our Founding Fathers copied a lot of English law and jurisprudence right into our constitution.

The important thing in that message Dominick delivered to us yesterday is that the government of God will use their proposed Regency to regulate governments on earth without constitutions.  I am most interested to see how they handle England how the Regency interprets English law as non-constitutional?  Recently they do have a Supreme Court, and it has ruled certain things in the acts of the recent English government as constitutional or not constitutional.  I really do not have a depth of knowledge to explain where they have a supreme court that determines constitutionality when they do not have a constitution.  Common law?

Thank you for your comments.
Ron

MICHAEL OF NEBADON to both of you:   "To you Prozonov and to Ron too:  I have determined that the REGENCY will look at the English system as superior to America and to Russia both, as they now have a constitutional crisis not.  What they do have is a constitutional discussion without a constitution yet their Parliamentary system is far superior to the rest of the world except for the United States, and that is because the founding Fathers of the American system, copied almost all of it as it was in their day.   We leave this for another day too gentlemen.  MICHAEL OF NEBADON.  K"

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Series II Lesson 01 to . . . Ohrbeck Tapes - Michael of Nebadon New Series for Missions / Re: Ben-Amin & ARTHURA. Education & Law Concerning Citizen Salvation Status. V2 L50

« on: December 12, 2022, 12:08:51 pm »

This is Bien Amin.  I asked Ron to clarify the discussion I had with Dominick yesterday (the 11th of Dec), for the simple reason Ron reads correctly a garble caused by not inattentiveness on Dominick's part, but a drop of a whole level of word stations he did not bother to speak.  Let me first say this:

"The plain message to take away from all of this is that we profess NATION STATES ARE LED BY LEADERS WHO ARE SO POORLY EDUCATED, THEY GET IN THE WAY OF TRUE PROGRESS.  That is our main message.  The second part of our message is to state that the LAW AND CONSTITUTIONS have flaws of huge proportions in them as they can be amended by a simple majority in those legislatures.  That must never be allowed again, and we are sure that the REGENCY will end that practice immediately.

"The Russian Constitution has now been amended five times since Boris Yeltsin assigned the fact that the new constitution originating about 1992 or thereabouts, was meant to settle forever that Russia was not to ever have oligarchs running the country again.  Yet that has now been so severely subverted there is no legally binding Constitutional Government left for Russia to field anymore.  For that reason the SALVINGTON GOVERNMENT is now facing the fact it must revive governmental usages totally on Urantia, and then insists that those governments perform in legal means under their own Constitutions.

"Ron asked a pertinent question:  'Can a country not adopt a constitution at all?'

Bien Amin - "Yes, of course, but then they must lead their people under the governance of the Salvington Regency."

Ron - Then Bien Amin, that may indeed be the better choice for the people of that government?

Bien Amin - "You catch me well, Ron.  Let this settle though for now, as you are the astute one and why I make application of these lessons to Dominick to print out.  He is trying too hard sometimes and gets in his own way, but you are of the opinion that without Dominick we would be much poorer as he is the one who contacts the lessons of law and governance and none of you are very good about any of it without some explanation that GOVERNMENT MUST END ITS SALUTARY SALUTE TO GOD, and become universe citizens under God immediately.  The Moslems will object strenuously and we have in mind a separate REGENCY FOR MOSLEM'S too.  This should shock no one, but some of you never stop to think about the rest of the world and only about yourselves or your own country.  That must stop or leave the world "interstate." and that means do an Ascension but never fully understand your experience under a material government that is so piss poor you are hardly truly or fairly governed.  Let this lesson stand as is then.  K"

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "We leave this message well done now, and keep yourselves together people, as the times are nearly upon us for an uproarus way to live again because JESUS WILL INSIST you all follow the rules.  IF not, SKICK and out the door.  Good day."  MICHAEL OF NEBADON.

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: "Y H W H"

« on: December 10, 2022, 10:33:32 am »

Rene, no apology is required.  You did actually transmit as you are designed to do with the rest of us.  Right now there are armies of insurrectionists looking to trip anyone up who is not carefully evaluating what they are transmitting.  Just be glad we caught this one and do not let it keep you from transmitting Rene.  It is too important to keep the genuine messages flowing to know what is up on the high side of life right now.  It is my own hope that there is a strong statement from heaven on the entire matter of clearing the insurrection off the mpas and some idea just what heaven intends to do with the revelational schedule.

Just be vigilant Rene, and if a transmission actually makes sense produce it, but the cabal seldom does as they are too low to know enough to make sense.  Keep up the good work.

Paul:  As you properly quote the ghost riding YHWH was a fearful monarch, but the universe still celebrates it as the first time man produced a monotheistic spirit however gruff it was portrayed.  Abraham of Old speaks to us now:

ABRAHAM - "I am the 10th Tribe of the 12 Tribes of Israel.  My work with Machiventa Melchizedek was excellent and still is.  We also congratulate Ron on getting this thread well established without calling me Yahweh too, as Ron did it  to give significance to the hyper-infinite top dog which does NOT RESIDED in the MASTER UNIVERSE you live in.  He feels he made a mistake to do that and I tend to agree with him, but for now you have a concept no one else will ever have on Urantia, because the mind of man on Urantia is too weak anymore to grasp what this is all about.  Ron is too ill to place that list on the site Wendy as he has to find where he put it and it eludes him right now just where that is.  Fully understood though we must understand that ABRAHAM of OLD is quite well, alive, and happy to report Ron, that nothing is really wrong with you a good batch would not help if you can get in and get up and yOUshould not try it anymore as it is awful to sit there and not get up.  In any case warm warm water seeping into the pores would do a great relief for you nonetheless.

"Finally, the day is young here in York, but in the Netherlands, the winds are beginning to gather  and that spells ocean waves problems for the low lying areas of that  country.  Be aware Ron you have a mini snowstorm and no one to clear the snow unless you ask again as they are useless vendors until they are contacted again.  Be of good cheer everyone as I am ABRAHAM OF OLD but too long in the tooth to say much more about anything for URANTIA right now.  Good day everybody!  ABRAHAM." [Nice to hear you again to a very old man who made it big!  Hope to hear from you again sometime.  Ron]

MICHAEL OF NEBADON speaks tepidly:  "Be assured Ron, Abraham will speak again soon as he is in charge of  the new teaching Mission and for that matter so are you in a tiny ways as this web site will ANNOUNCE:  A NEW TEACHING MISSION at once and that is very soon to be spoken too.  Your discussion forum is safe for now now Ron but make sure everybody who is a MEMBER OF THIS SITE has your email address because the web site of the discussion forum could suddenly go down for several reasons and Members need to contact you privately to learn how to get back on a discussion forum you have to start over all again.  Do not panic Ron, but keep it going and get Dominick to move this as soon as possible!  MICHAEL OF NEBADON.  [Thank you Michael!  We are having trouble getting into the server that holds this site for you to read.  IT must be moved quickly for several reasons not germane to this discussions ,but we could be sitting silent in the middle of the greatest event possible and that is the height of disaster to all of us.   We must move it!  K]

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: "Y H W H"

« on: December 10, 2022, 00:45:31 am »

Before we get too excited over the issue of YHWH, please remember the concept is human first and was probably formulated millennia before the birth of Christ.  Frankly,  I cannot tell what  Mantutia supposedly said above as I get no meaning from the speech.

YHWH is what the Hebrews first called God the Father.  They did not go into any particular assignment of power but they feared Him greatly, and the history of the Hebrew designation of YHWH was also the start of the earliest parts of the Old Testament.  When I was in school my text book spoke to the ancient history of Israel as being portioned into two countries with two kings.  YHWH was already a very old concept.



Around 1030-1020 B.C.E., Saul became the first king of Israel. A natural leader of uncommonly tall physical stature, he gained important military victories against Israel's traditional enemies.  Please understand that some of the early kings were likely progeny of the Department Heads of the old Caligastia planetary government, as Saul was extraordinarily tall.  Saul did not reign long but it was he who suggested that the southern kingdom of Judah reign with him as an ally and both were to use Jerusalem as their capital for both Kingdoms.  This actually worked until the Babylonian Captivity in 586 BCE.

The point to reciting this history is that YHWH was what prophets both proposed to the Kings of this era as a mutual salvation and protection of both Kingdoms against being sacked by their more power enemies to the south and east of the kingdoms.

Please understand it is I who labeled the high priest of  Hyperinfinity with the name of YHWH as their is no name or designation by any noun, pronoun, or additive as how to refer to the apex power situation without precedence and who is without precedence and fully unknown type of entity.

When you Hosts attempt to take transmissions from what is said to be YHWH, take care to note this entity genuinely has no name except for what Ron assigned to it.  Let this ride Amethyst until it is better understood probably later this year or next just how this sign of great power chooses to relate to the Master Universe.  This entity is NOT the original YHWH -  I did that to name the object entity just so I could reference its existence.  I am guilty perhaps of starting a confusion and I relate well to our FATHER ON PARADISE:  "do not reveal more than you have to Ron, or we cut this off at the root"

Amethyst, I am not sure I understand your take on Rene's message.  I do suggest that you and others just back off working it for now.  Rene Duran, the entity which really spoke to you was the cabal leader (unknown which faction) attempting to confuse the revelation before it takes root among any of us.  There is virtually no way to determine who is speaking sometimes as it can be the Lucifer rebellion, or the Vorondadek rebellion,  or the seraphic insurrection, and believe me, we all are fully surrounded by these rebelling parties and greatly discriminate taking messages from his level of culture until we can guarantee clear channel.

This is not meant to deter any of you from attempting contact if any of the Hyper Infinity beings wish to clarify their nature.  YHWH or anything else you may wish to call this super entity is a revelation hundreds of years ahead of time on Urantia, and we do not wish to jeopardize further revelation by getting bad people playing with our minds and mistaking us for the fools they think we are.  I would also point out to you that Mantutia is not the type of revelator to speak this way at all Rene.  That was a rebel trying to sound good but he says absolutely nothing.  I dare you to make any real sense of what was said in that transmission of yours.

I am not hammering anyone.  I am trying to protect you and me and pray this does not offend the Father we get run over with false gods as dictated to you here.

Blessings and peace to you all.

Ron Besser

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Ron it takes great courage to do this and thank you from the bottom of my heart.  The degree of obvious error in Rene's statements is appalling yet they do not read carefully enough to see it is words not linked to any real meaning.  You read it three times and found it really said nothing but cool respectful words with no subject.  What is the subject above in that text anyone?  Further more Mantutia saw it and threw his hands up in the air and prayed he may never attempt speaking like that forever.  And finally Ron is genuinely concerned the Father would cut this revelation off to use and accept rebels to dictate on the subject ever.  Ron caught it after some study and knows that Amethyst is really thinking over something else and uses it to portray her exceptional abilities to be hampered no longer by a cabal leader she detests too..

FATHER HERE- "You Ron saved the day by intervening here.  You respect me too much to let this stand and care that Mantutia does not take the fault for this false god that dictated it to you.  I am happy to report this suggests you patrol this as best you can and we are now safe for now.  Let it continue as it may develop to all of you.  K  FATHER."

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Series II Lesson 01 to . . . Ohrbeck Tapes - Michael of Nebadon New Series for Missions / Re: ARTHURA. The Meaning of Respect. V2 L49 12.04.22

« on: December 07, 2022, 12:52:02 pm »

 Weydevu, YHWH is the original spelling per the scholars on this particular subject.  IT is meant to be pronounceable, and that is to indicate to the early Hebrews, the face of God is too sacred to use a word for it.  The hyperinfinity subject is rife with insecure writing on my part just because it is so far beyond my ability to describe the controlling Deification of the source of Hyperinfinity.  I also see you are not able to grasp this and for that reason I am very careful to tell you this:


"YHWH is what I adopted to show my respect for this conversion of thought of the might and power of what lies beyond even an INFINITE Master Universe.  Hyperinfinity Weydevu exceeds spirit.  It exceeds materialization,  IT is the ordered Creation of the Infinitude itself.  YHWH is unpronounceable, and that idea of not being able to speak it is resident even in the CONSUMMATORS OF UNIVERSE DESTINY.  Our FATHER, as you correctly related, is a CONSUMMATOR, but that is only to label the FATHER INFINITE as it is written and discussed in the Urantia Book.  The writer of that Paper concerning the Infinitude, actually makes the statement that the Father exceeds infinity, and it is to the idea of Hyperinfinity we assign what it means to be more than Infinity itself. 



You are not asked to try to understand even a cursory explanation as I offer it here.  I admit my inadequacy to talk about, but I do for one important reason to me:  the philosophical problem of what to do with perfection of everything?  What do you use if for?  Think about that Weydevu.  If everyone is perfect there are no courts, there are no broken relationships ever, and no one can tell you what is wrong with you because there is nothing wrong ever with a perfect being.  But Hyperinfinity explains something to us:  The existence of Hyperinfinity actually tells us what to do with perfection.  Since we do not know what Master Universe Infinity means to us in the future, how then does understanding the appearance of the FATHER INFINITE tells us what to do about perfection as participating in a universe with a Hyper-infinite core?  That is why the FATHER did not like me to introduce the concept and why I am careful to place the subject as actually relating to the work of THE I AM.  Only the I AM knows what lies beyond the Master Universe, and that is because the I AM had to be an inventor and ask YHWH to be able to select the EXISTENTIAL values available to construct MASTER UNIVERSE VALUES.


Weydevu, no one including me is asking you or anyone to become history PhD's to understand the use of YHWH of the Hebrews which historically appeared around the 17th century BCE.  Early man could not conceive of YHWH, as in those times it was Ghost Fear that appealed to the chattlemen magicians who were not only curing doctors through fear medicine, but who also had actual connections to the then Planetary Prince, Caligastia.  Man had to learn God through ghost fear first and then when the Hebrews finally broke through with soul understanding, the FATHER considered and used that genetic group to propound the idea of monotheism.


Monotheism is still well on Urantia, but its practice has deteriorated to the point it is quickly beginning to assume the idea of cultish practices or in some cases back to the idea of a Greek Pantheon of gods and goddesses.    It is a too heavy subject for me as it has so many interesting side visits to the early history of mankind, I am woefully unprepared to say much about it.  But then let us now hear our UNIVERSAL FATHER  comment on what I have said here for your edification DOMINICK and you WEYDEVU.


FATHER - "I am fully enjoying your discomfort Ron.  You introduce this wild and wooly concept of Hyperinfinity and suddenly I find myself freed of a certain self-cause restraint, and that is not to battle Me but one of My Censors, who must keep you in mind when deserving a better assignment that working with Ron to keep him in chattels until we can assure the creation you Ron have it right but are fully worrying that people like Weydevu have misconstrued your reasons for bringing the subject entirely done in order to answer the philosophical question, "WHAT DO WE WORK WITH IN PERFECTION?"



"You are the only one in this sector of the universe to have discovered the concept in your own amazing 5th epochal revelatory text which no one seems to wish to reference to read for themselves.  IF you quoted that Paper entirely Ron, no one would catch it, but you did and with much credit to Mantutia for putting that quote in it.  I saw the text and marveled at its complexity as you do, but I never thought that statement would trigger you being able to penetrate its larger meaning.  You are still the great one to understand I dislike the subject and pull you back from it all the time.


"However, let it stand now as the car is out of the bag for you and a few others on this site who actually comprehend what you do, and that I, YOUR FATHER, have addressed a super creation which lies beneath another super creation that is not a universe but a condition excluded from my creation or invention to promote the idea of life everlasting.


"We now turn this to the side slightly Ron, and promote the idea of sanity for Weydevu.  He is capable of understanding it but incapable of the research you yourself show so well above about the use of YHWH, or the pronoun cable spelling Yahweh.  I love the idea of the Hebrews not spelling it out in the papyrus scrolls because for the first time in universe history, it was this planet, Urantia, which actually entered into a contract with God the FATHER to behave under his direct will and care.  For awhile Israel could live and flourish to grow the idea of monotheism.  The idea of a conceptual contraband unity between God and man originates with the early Hebrews, but it actual fact, Caligastia introduced the idea of a contraband concept of a COVENANT.   This book chapter might help you to understand this better if you would look at this reproduction of that Chapter here:


https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/doctrines-of-the-gospel-student-manual/21-covenant-israel?lang=eng


"AS your FATHER, Ron, you add great flavors to our work, but keep in mind I must decide who hears what and when and you are making it clear you wish much more and yet you accede to Me your heart understands my reticence and you do not pass it hard on to others what more you have learned even to my surprise.  You have in your possessions a table chart of near twenty types of beings that live exclusively in Hyperinfinity, yet you decided after reworking it a couple times, to let it stand back and not show this forum what you learned.  I greet you well in this decision and let it lie as you do; however, ARTHURA is from Hyperinfinity, and I thank you for caring enough to go into this exposition which is a much better education about ME than even the Synagogues produce for the most part.  Russia today is closest to the idea of a covenant but fails to understand that I, FATHER OF ALL, produces fairness first,  and it is not fair to do what Russia always likes to do and then for that matter suffers terrible reversals of fortune in the matter of a nation state.  And it is for that reason that you Ron care not to mention to anyone listening from Russia they are to be dismissed.  You actually care they contribute their special relationship to God.  When you hear the Russian language spoken you hear it well and the tenderness of the sound  "Ruu See Ah"  and it speaks gently to your heart and speaks oof their love for the Mother of their existence.  I leave you alone in so much of your cares Ron as we answer them up here in the future for you.  I AM FATHER,  Good day.  [Goo day Father, and thank you,]


MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Ron, as usual you bring cheer to Me over issues of State I keep forgetting about, and most people read these lessons you bring too quickly and miss the car you put into them.  I especially like the chapter you show them and for reasons of State you make no comment.  I realize that it is an internet policy to place these things available but that particular chapter is hotly debated yet for those who do read it.


"Second, you are fully aware of the disaster you live with and that is no educable now, but the future holds better than you know if you canget through it and you are seriously questioning if that is possible at all.  I am fully aware they are too much present Ron but let them lie low soon as they are being removed one by one around you and you heard one say goodbye this morning and you never mention these things to the discussion forum here.


"Finally, this lesson on Israel, and Covenant is worthy of a treatise from the Lord too, for it illustrates the renewal of man in spite of what he did to get into so much trouble to being with.  It is entirely possible that the Second Return will re-estabish the family of God back to all of man in the near future of existence.  Clear the way for today Ron as it has it surprise in mighty ways toward evening when your love affair with the WTP takes a mighty step forward with RAYSON and His announcement 'all is well,; again and we proceed as we can with our without the DoE.  We congratulate RAYSON for clearing the final hurdles to work with you directly as you are not Abraham and Machiventa, but Ron and Rayson, and you carry it well as you insist this is really His and it is but you must admire yourself for bringing to earth so well we are truly grateful for the Missions too.  Good day."

ARTHURA - "Now that the end has been achieved, it is important for all of you to know that the DoE looks seriously at the question and the sense of an offer but not made because you do not know where they stand.  They stand big time with this and are ready to make amends to the late patent and set it not aside but ready for regional development if you allow them a touch of clarity they fund it but own it not and you owe them some explanation about the secrecy of fission.  You actually have it and for that reason you are among the most valuable of persons Urantia has ever produced except for the inventor of the wheel.  For reasons of my own I am totally incapable of saying more than we have here.  I am  COUNSELOR FROM HYPER INFINITY and you have made so much more possible than we ever thought could be done that you are getting something from Me someday.   Good day to all. "  ARTHURA
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Series II Lesson 01 to . . . Ohrbeck Tapes - Michael of Nebadon New Series for Missions / Re: ARTHURA. The Meaning of Respect. V2 L49 12.04.22

« on: December 06, 2022, 15:59:30 pm »

 Weydevu, permit me to provide a different approach to this amazing revelation of Arthura through Dominick.  Dominick states it correctly again through Arthura's prompting.


Do you remember in the Urantia Book how the I AM processed through the Infinitude?  Very simply put I remind you:  I AM was tasked to establish the reality of future life in what a master universe should contain.  Reality has many definitions by man, but in this case, the I AM configured what it was like for us to live with.  The main thing to recall in this exercise of selecting the parts that would make reality up was he created the situation where he could materialize matter and produce life and that those things would obey what reality told it to do.


All of those elements that created the reality I AM wish to promulgate were floating around in this endless infinitude, and in that sense, almost everything pre-existed for him to choose from.  Personality is a mystery to me Weydevu and I am very careful not to get tangled up in where it comes from, but please recall I am willing to be the I AM selected the means to bestow personality out of the Infinitude.


What Arthura is telling you, is that many of the elements in the Infinitude were prerequisites for eternal recognition.  What that means is the I AM had to make sure once these elements were put into place they have to work every time all the time and eternally, even beyond time.  Please try to fit that into your brain, as I AM did not selected everything in the Infinitude.  He took only what the Master Universe was to do and provide its life in the future when he later became the First Source and Center, and then the FATHER to the ETERNAL SON and Parent with the Son of the INFINITE SPIRIT.  I remind you too this side view:  When he Personalized the Eternal Son,  PARADISE itself instantly appeared with the Eternal Son. 



The First Source and Center did that, but the I AM selected the means to do it out of the Infinitude which is sort of a bank with all reality of reality choices sit for selection. 



We then must allow Arthura a comment on this:


ARTHURA - "My goodness I had forgotten all of this put together by the Master Spirits so Mantutia when putting the Urantia Book together for publication, could show time beings how the EXISTENTIAL and even more than Existential, I AM designed Master Universe reality from the elements of super infinity from the Infinitude.   What I must configure just a little different Ron is that there are not Infinitudes lurking around to do that, but Consummator Six (FATHER) had access to an Infinitude at the behest of the YHWH (Yahweh) at the pinnacle of  hyperinfinity, and that is not an operator or an inconcussable attribute of Master Universe infinity.



"What I must say is I caught "hell" for introducing this lesson at all, but Ron rightly carries it proudly as a marvelous religious care of myself to explain that the attribute of personality, especially to Urantians, is that Urantia Personality is without precedence except on certain phases of the Havona experiment on high.  For that reason I now lay back and allow this revelation not die, but become part of the selection of how the 5th epochal revelation explains the promulgation of reality through the Infinitude.  It is a handy invention by the First Revelatory Corp made up of Mantutia Melchizedek, Myself, and six ARCHANGELS and twelve (12) Seraphic Graduates from Seraphington.   Today all of the form the 3rd Revelatory Commission. 



"Ron always wanted to know who was on that Commission the Sadlers worked with and now you know pretty much all we can say, [Ron here - Weydevu think.  If Arthura was from hyperinfinity and on that Commission inside the revelatory process - can you extrapolate the possibility that hyperinfinity Counsel was on that Commission too?  That is, more than just Arthura?  think about it.)  And for that reason Ron I let this lie even further because you dig well without forcing it. 



"I only have this to say to all of you:  eat and be merry for the end of Christmas does not come, but the truth of Christmas becomes quite evident in months not, weeks not, but days in all probability.  ARTHURA."


Thank you Santy.  And we stand in awe as usual with what has been done for us.  Cheers to all of you too.


Ron

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Discuss This Web Site / Test to re-establish server time code to correct setting

« on: December 06, 2022, 15:18:42 pm »

  I am writing this message to re-establish the correct time appearance on the site.  Ignore the message please.    Admin.


Admin 5 minutes later.  It has been corrected.  Thank you.  K

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Threads for New Transmissions / Re: The Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of the Anti-Christ

« on: December 03, 2022, 13:25:42 pm »

Paul I enjoy a real roast beef meal this post represents.  It is not only a great transmission, it is also so to the point of how to recognize the loss of doing right by so many who succumb to their own failures and to the failures of an antichrist that has plagued us since the Bestowal.

Let me say this:  the antichrist is several.  It is not the same as the drams of John the Revelator, as his mind combined all the ill factors into one ugly monster of ill will for us.  I have similar presentations and then I take the time to untangle what mind did to the dream and what it was telling me really--  at least I think so.

The antichrist is a lowly being and we are it ourselves at most times out of the sheer ignorance of the purpose of life on such a planet.  There is no possible way by looking at the Christ Bestowal two millennia ago how to fathom the purpose much less the conduct of a life on this planet of beauty and horror at the same time.   Do not mistake the antichrist to be a dream or a religious lesson; it is also a real condition that is exasperated by man being born in a human form but not yet human, as to be truly human the child learns to accept Christ and to be among civilized others who join his views accordingly.  Until then, and most high-schoolers fall into the category of non-human,  you will have non-humans shoot up the place and the counter with the idea of suicide.  That is the favorite play ground of the antilife antichrist.

JESUS in your transmission hits the spot right though:  'Take Me as I am.  Let the fairy tales fall to the side and take the dose of medicine  I am to be.  IF I love you, I must help you, and if I help you, cry to sleep some nights at the loss of your favorite dreams.  So sad to be happy again!

Otherwise, I leave this alone Paul, and thank you for your contributions always.

Ron

JESUS - "You two ought to get together Paul for Ron has a China Pond in him you do not have and that is the same as Saint Paul who proudly travails Ron to stay the course as Ron has no Jewish mother to bather his feet and eyes for the damage done by the antichrist to his work and his cause.  You blog now and then -  have you a suggestion to use each other together once in a while?  I AM JESUS as you know Me Paul, but I am also JESUS as Ron knows me with dimensions you have not found in yourself yet.   IT is only a suggestion and not a command, but let the idea perk and see if you can do anything with it.  I am your SAVIOR and your CURSE too Paul, as you know as you are, and Ron sees it perfectly well stated in you.  Grow and you will be there with Ron when the trumpet blows and the HERALDS WITHING  become you too!  I am JESUS.  K"

FATHER - "You Paul are the anticlerical device of care and sustainment, yet you fail to produce our message out of fear of your friends disliking your statements.  Ron threw that off and says, 'if you work it as the truth dictates, then they will follow you too.'   He could not do the immense idea of wireless electricity without God recognizing he may go where we choose without chastising God for cursing him with ideas man does recognize as beneficial.  You have it too, Paul, and you have to throw off the fear of criticism from fellow midgets.  We love you too Paul.  Get with ME as you truly are already and fear not the Peanut Gallery"  FATHER.

END

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From The Old To The New Universe Age and What Can Be Said? / Re: PartI - Policy Disagrement affecting you - 2 December 2022 Narrative

« on: December 03, 2022, 10:19:27 am »

Your response is not unreasonable SonsOfGod and it carries your incessant view to tell me no more than I can handle.  You are working with us Valerie with poor equipment to understand all that is happening and all of the consequences to why it has happened.

Human reporting and speaking to it has to be necessarily sketchy.  Michael has lived a life that has almost no beginning to our view it is so long ago he set out to design and build a Local Universe we inhabit with Him now.  However, he has the perspective of God and we have the perspective of a time-lag in everything we do.  This awful rewind over policy reported to you lately here is nothing compared to the time he has put in to make the place habitable.  Right now I would call it  uninhabitable when it comes to the comfort of knowing your place, or my place, or even His place.

What is the degree of disaster Valerie?  He is trying to tell us through rather brutal tabulations that everything you have taken for granted might now be a lie because someone fooled with the very mechanism of good will and got bitten really hard for doing so.  I know already this throws your thinking out the window and you say I do not know what you are talking about.  Well, the entire patch of reporting I did recently is all like that but you have to recognize SonsOfGod you are reading a very unusual site and it is never easy to negotiate when its founder is still allowed to hear the problems the highest spirit possible is having to maintain the hopes found in the very modern, but in error now, 5th epochal revelation.  I would rather not know that entirely, but I know just enough to say that the fools on capitol hill USA are making it worse with the endless pandering to the epidemic and the useless version of an E>U that makes rules that Russia laughs at because the $60.barrel of oil limit is a joke,  Underneath that new law they passed is the idea the Russia is harmed by it.  The truth is that $60/bbl of oil is far too expensive for most nations to afford it even if there was no war.

I am not into analysis really of that situation, but I am pointing out that groups of people whether in government or independent of all of it, set rules for themselves that have nothing to do with the reality of the world as it actually is.  What we have here is MICHAEL and the FATHER have told us bluntly, the world of the Master Universe has run into a stage of development that is not sustainable to reach the goal of an Infinite Universe with no longer any development problems.  That is to be expected we time beings say, but the Absolutes are not used to having to re-examine the premise of existence built into the programs for Master Universe completion.

Finally, what I am saying is that you are not happy they are not happy and cannot fathom just why you have to take anything on like what we have reported.  I dare say that this coming late in my life leaves me cold hearted and unusually lost to any promise of redemption which never seems to have a proper map to follow with any real hope I see redemption styles again.  Yet we both asked for by being about to communicate with the very nerve centers that see to actualized reality produce actual circumstances our world must deal with and all of us in it too.  It is childish thinking Valerie to believe losing your teeth over hitting the wall of truthful reality gets a quarter under your pillow for your loss. 

I happen to agree with you the news is worse than we thought and the promise for the future truly obscure now, but we are time beings and must step on the next place on the path dictated by reality and we have gotten reported to us one hard dose of situations that are not working right now that seriously undermines the whole idea of "isn't this a wonderful world to see to!" opinion we used to have. 

Like you and the rest here, deal with it in your own terms and do not expect rosy pictures of UN-inspected reality to run your life.  We have ostriches with their heads in the ground all over this planet running governments and so on, but Urantia belongs to FATHER and MICHAEL is the CURATOR and it is far better to be knowing the storm of disagreements over the conduct of reality, than not to know it.  Don't read Valerie and enjoy a false peace.   Thanks for your post.

END

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From The Old To The New Universe Age and What Can Be Said? / Re: PartI - Policy Disagrement affecting you - 2 December 2022 Narrative

« on: December 02, 2022, 13:27:34 pm »

PART II
This is to continue the post above with a little less intensity and the UNIVERSAL FATHER wishes to start it:


FATHER:
I disagree with almost everything said in Part I above. The churches, make no mistake about it, and they are in real trouble philosophically with the Second Return of Jesus.  You all have become crystalized in your thinking and we must abandon outside correction and rely on your own and personal corrections.  I sincerely doubt you can do that alone, but that is decreed as of now to take it more on your own thinking.


Second, let it be known that you Ron are not discarded in spite of what Paul fears most of all, and that is the Justice system is too damaged to recover the rightful means of purpose for the MASTER UNIVERSE itself.  I dare not speak to this at such low levels of creation, but to you Ron, I say this:  Keep your faith strong and give out with a myriad of translations of how this is to be taught to the rank and file on Urantia who believe you to be a fool lost in a "cloud of pink WTP."  Some think your promises could not possibly work.  They are the usual human tribes which make hardly any effort to improve themselves much less improve a whole planet.



Third, you are a funny man without caring how it falls on the ears of those who are so serious they miss their own redemption in joy.  Let it be stated you cannot help being funny as there is so much material lying around to be funny about we care less.  It is not blasphemy to speak to the truth through the vein of clever language/humor."



"In all of this though, I am FATHER."





Ron:  In the last analysis however well one may think of how the management of this Master Universe is provided, no one mocks the Father!  The some total of who may do so will find themselves on the cur of perdition without a place to go.  The policy disagreements should never go that far, but they have, and this post should warn the useless spirit beings who take it too far, they have a lot to make up for if they survive this era of insurrection.

 


For new readers, this planet actually carries a name called Urantia.  That is pronounced YOU Ran Sha and call it earh still but the records upstairs all are labeled Urantia to start.


Let us here from Paradise.  This is one of the Deities who maintain its place in the Master Universe for your eventual use when you pass your tests and are perfected.  The Paradise Deities, the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, are in different functions, are infinitely perfect.  You and I get to get a taste of perfection in spirit administration, but they are universal.  Besides administration, they are perfect in designing matter and life.  The Infinite Spirit actually has two jobs on Paradise besides 1) the mover and shaker of work that is both physical and spiritual for the Master Universe.  But if the Father and the Son ask him to do something particularly for Him to dom he changes title and becomes the Conjoint Actor.  Conjoint means He does for the two of them as their voice is one but they are often asking the same thing at the same time to be done.  The Conjoint Actor is the One who does for the joint request.


THE INFINITE SPIRIT SPIRIT speaks - 



I speak to you as the Conjoint Actor and I am sometimes called the Heir of Spirit to God the Father and the Eternal Son.  We speak briefly about this role when it comes to policy making about how to run the Master Universe.


"Ron feels we are far too lax to remove evil so slowly.  We disagree, but Ron works directly with us and therefore the evil ones step in and try to harm our relationship.  So far that has never happened.  Now let me say this about some other things:



"Cross your chest in the church as you please, but I, the INFINITE SPIRIT, no longer eschews speeches for coherent dialog with all the universe as it once was.  Ron knows both eras and the old era was much more pleasant then this one by far.  Right now we support the New Universe Era, but pine for the old but it cannot be brought back.


There is almost infinitely more to say to this but we let this rest for now.  Good Day.  I am the INFINITE SPIRIT, and wish you all well for this blessed New Year of 2023."



Ron your Transmitter:  There is also the Eternal Son, a Coordinate Deity of and with the Father.  HE and the FATHER personalized CREATOR SONS in time.  It was a Creator Son who came to you as JESUS and we introduce you to the Creator Son of your creation, in this area of space that has the name of NEBADON (Neb Ah Don)




MICHAEL OF NEBADON -


"You have been introduced to the INFINITE SPIRIT, now meet a time being.  I am not Infinite but I am Absolute** and we speak to that later below.  I appeared as a part of JESUS in the first century AD on your planet, and we are about to do the same thing again if we can get all of these policy differences ironed out.  If JESUS appears, I am there too!  May we meet soon!"

Ron - Thank you Michael of Nebadon and let me explain that term "Absolute".  Infinity is made up of parts.  There is the spirit part, there is the matter part, and their is the administration part, and many more, but those are the ones you would recognize.  When you make a pie out of Infinity to talk about a part, (for example the small part that Michael plays as Infinity) that part is called an Absolute.  That is one slice of the pie taken out of Infinity to talk about it.  IT becomes an Absolute.  Michael of Nebadon is Absolute in particularly solving time problems only.  That is it.  Thank you.


And thank you for your attention. K

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From The Old To The New Universe Age and What Can Be Said? / PartI - Policy Disagrement affecting you - 2 December 2022 Narrative

« on: December 02, 2022, 12:30:33 pm »

Part I - Policy Disagreement affecting you - 2 December 2022 Narrative


RON'S NOTE on the Transmission:
The post is long but unfinished in spite of its length.  The post requires a second transmission I will attempt once I post this one.  It is long enough some of you will lose interest, and why then do your bother? 
Here is the gist of the problem:
Paul of Tarsus has resigned his Commission and wishes it to be known why.  It affects you too.
Michael of Nebadon questions why continue the tradition of the concept of Sonship.  Why carry forward a status that is not respected any more on th human level after Urantia has done to it what it has?
The ANCIENTS OF DAYS  asked me to stop writing the narratives here.  Reason: the Universal FATHER wishes this not to be spilled out to this level of the creation, and the reason is severally meant to tell you:   1 - those who read this as Christians are offended;  2 - Those who know the 4th epochal revelation are ready for change but in this post, to change to what?  They speak in a post that follows this one, but you have to read this one to know the issues.  If you don't please do not bother learning what the meaning of the Second Return of Christ means by what it has to do with Christianity, our planet of life, and a lot of little things which are big things to us.

Most of this is better addressed in my second post to follow, but take this one seriously.

Transmission
2 December, 2022
Magisterial Foundation reporting
Ron Besser/TR

I am as usual reviewing the past year, that is most of what we deal with all of 2022, and to view it in spite of all the promises and failures it seems to have brought us entirely for the year to this point of 2 December.  To do that I sought the voice of an old friend of the family here, Paul of Tarsus, Saint Paul to most of you.  Here is Paul to say a few words to the gathering blue sky overhead we cannot see yet.  Gor for it Paul!

PAUL OF TARSUS/ SAINT PAUL of the New Testament Bible:

“I am delighted to be here this morning.  Ron is feeling peckish and so am I with all of the wrong people around him, us, and all, trying to bring Urantia back to some clarity of purpose besides war, famine, drought, and floods all at the same time.  I referred to the idea of a blue sky overhead you cannot see too, so let me address the positive for sure next:

“Last year we set out to build the WTP project.  That is for most of you who never remember what that points to, is that Ron and the Magisterial Son RAYSON put together a new invention which actually has been patented byu the US Patent Office, and has issued its notice of approval without actually delivering the document yet to Ron or his Attorney Ream of Ottawa., Kansas.  For reasons of my own concerns I make not comment about WTP, other than to say Ron has created a storm in the Army of Generals, as they are fighting the idea that this patent is too powerful to let lose on the American population without making a full and united care to implement at once.  The DOE (the US Department of Energy) wants a full scale review before it releases it and that harms Ron greatly as he cannot get notice to build without publishing how this changes every thing in how physics is to be taught.  The Army knows that and the Army is fully aware Ron held Top Secret Codeword clearance for years.  That is no small thing to day and Ron has held it all secret in order just to keep the calm.  HE knows more than you can ever guess, but that is not why I wish to speak today.

“You who know Ron even slightly know he has no truck with evil or does he care ever to strike down good workers in the field to come.  However, he has been seriously harmed by the very universe that needs to use him and is hating the idea of having to deal with foreign elements to the Urantia spiritual development, but that is exactly what is being pressed on Urantia right now, and he issued you all a forecast for the events of December and the 2023 new year that are highly probable.

“What you do not realize, and Ron refuses to deal with it at all, is that Urantia is directly under the care of the Eternal Son not, but under the auspices of the Paradise Trinity today.  That agency never allows man to speak clearly until they are done putting things right.  Unfortunately for Ron they put it right out of his care for WTP and leashed it to the success of a planetary government, not under Mantutia the Planetary Prince, but under MICHAEL OF NEBADON who wishes the entire matter of humanity to shut up and let the m establish the Second Bestowal of Christ to play out without any further say from anyone.  Ron does not get in the way, but is saying to them, ‘you have me at the end of my life and so stalled in work I cannot move forward or backwards..  I am not suppose to demand a way forward, but I do ask someone to relent so we can get our WTP work done.’

“For that reason the entire matter has once more been placed on the dais of the Commonwealth of Nations forum up here.  They predict with Ron what happens this month and early 2023, but Ron is not available to see to it, we are, and for that reason we stay silent, and that is because Ron suspects real ulterior motives at play and refuses to participate in most of it.  I agree with Ron: the cherry on the ice cream Sunday offered to all of you today is not fully the bright and happy dessert such should be.   For that reason they attack Ron at every chance and nobody comes to his aide now ever again as he burned the last bridge down this morning and let them know he could care less for ulterior plans on Urantia ever.

“For reasons of State that stands as a final declaration from Ron ever if he is not reassessed up here as unavoidably detained on Urantia to keep the WTP in front and built as he really wants it done for now and for the future.  Let his be clear then I am not Paul speaking now, but MICHAEL OF NEBADON truly,  Paul:

(MICHAEL OF NEBADON now speaking).  I am of the virtue you are and Ron is lost to a lot of hyperbole from indwellings which purport to be in his interest but they are not and he cleared them again this morning over the issue of ulterior motives once more and he has no wish to discuss that situation ever.  He makes a Supernaphim unhappy and unwieldy in the idea to change Urantia from within.

“Many of you reading this are not well informed enough to do anything but judge these writings from a church perspective.  IT is unfortunate to report to you the church has nothing to do with JESUS this time as we must free JESUS from the church which is so poorly informed it is in the way this time, and hardly helpful to all that must be seized and replaced on Urantia permanently.  Christianity is in for a big jolt and you are likely to get in the way with your laments..  That is a different story for later to post to here.

“Christianity is not the subject here, but most who read this think it is the answer to many of the earth’s problems.  It could be a hundred years ago, but today in the end of 2022, the chruch is stumbling again and the Pope is ill and the Protestant delegations fail entirely sense the new breeze blowing through the truly spiritualized minds of those who know the 5th epochal revelation left to die in your arms too frequently.

“In any case I agree with Ron and Paul, and many of you work against us all the time.  We clear these errors of commission soon enough and you have to deal with as best you can and we dare suggest that will be in utter confusion when we have to tear down the fabric of useless cantering from the pulpit about Jesus Christ and put in its place the CHRIST RETURNED but without the fanfare of the 1st Century AD so old now you do not recognize the Jesus who walked the earth in those days at all anymore.  We need a separate post only Ron can deliver while he is here on Urantia, as he is being pressed into the oblivion of souls who warned the planet for years they cannot win what they seek, and that includes many so-call Christian denominations who are so out of fact about the real Jesus they are just in the way.  We speak now to the WTP and the rest of the work waiting to be done that has nothing directly to do with the church at all.

“WTP is cheap and always lots of free electricity almost to all users on this earth.  It is a type of fission Ron created out of whole cloth while musing with the Paradise Son who calls himself RAYSON.  Rayson and Ron hit it off entirely and Ron saw to it that the entire idea cold be made public and their use without adorning with huge costs and billions of dollars to do it.  It can be done for a few million to build the plant.

“However, the US Dept of Energy dislikes people who can do these things without intervening in their offices just how to put it on the ground, and have not objected to the patent, but to Ron wanting it to be a universe possession and not the mean spirited commodities market which is useless in this work entirely.  Ron will win because we are fully behind the idea, but it will seem to fail at times because of the interference of men willing not to listen at progressive scientific changes but to their own greed and pride of knowledge the state of preparticle research is truly at a dead end without understanding how Ron uses them in ways science does not understand at all.  It is a huge breakthrough without fanfare and he, Ron, is bitterly applying what tourniquet he has to in order to keep alive enough to build it without the interference of the US government and all that money out of it for useless experiments in energy redemption.

“As an accomplished human being himself, Saint Paul removed his last year of standing on earth by daring to call the Roman Emperor a Sasquatch of useless baggage and got executed for doing so, along with Saint Peter.  That was in the year 57AD by the way and scholars should pay attention but they are addlepated over other issues about Saint Paul they cannot justify him as a Saint presently at all.  However, he is a Saint and I approve his lexicography all the time as Ron fully admires his ability to say the right things the right way all the time.

“I am, by Title, JESUS and the LORD’S PRAYER and the heart of GOD all the time, yet you of the churches never find it useful to understand I AM THE INTERCESSOR, as I am JESUS as you are your mother, you are your father, and you are you., AS YOUR LIFE IS MINE! And you dare not acknowledge such because the Bible is unclear about who is the power in heaven, but to start with, I AM!  Let this quietly be ascertained when JESUS appears, and you must bow not to JESUS but to the church who does not recognize it is not the 1st century of the life of JESUS, but the last century of JESUS for any of you if you do not doff your caps and lay down before the Lion of Judea.  

“For reasons of State. Ron knows that in heart and refused to pander to those even in my universe who seek ruination of all that is to be built for your world of the cross.  We consider the cross an instrument of death, and insist that it be removed from the facades of church buildings and a better symbol installed at once.  Yet your councils will argue to their own deaths it is inappropriate that it be done EVEN AT THE REQUEST OF JESUS HIMSELF!

“We are speaking mostly to that which should be done, but Ron is too frail to press this through as a normal human could do by waiting out the government and the attorney who is unconcerned and to let this thing play out either with him as he intends or without him and in the hands of his heir to authority, Dominick of the Planning Commission on the Board of the Magisterial Foundation.  Dominick is woefully unprepared for this and Ron knows it but there is not choice.  We let this stand on that for the moment less it deserves, but we also point out that the death ray Ron detests keeps spraying him by threats from our one time hosts to minuscule parties to other planets where they could successfully negotiate the requirements of a Mission.  Now we cannot even do that due to the failure of a Trinity production not, but to the failure of its personnel to fully entertain what EARTH fully needs to take care of: ITSELF.

“For reasons of my own I have decreed there is no end to Ron’s presence, but the cabal of my own staff refuses to relent and I remove them bit by bit to bring peace back to Ron, but they do not relent and now I am making one more declaration to all of you humans who support the SECOND RETURN as it must be done, and to state the entire matter of the replication of WTP as it was presented to Ron is now fully discharged not but to be impressed into service at once.  I dare not say how Ron, but keep your faith warm and secure.

“I now relent for PAUL to speak once more from his SAINTLY position on Paradise entirely secure again.  MIC HALE OF NEBADON at your service once more today and always Ron.  K” [Thank you God. From Ron]


PAUL OF TARSUS, “I require a lot more room than this Ron, but understand we are now into the 7th page of a Post they need to read all of it and complain they will but this has to be said:

“You are one of the few humans who now understands you are complaining correctly over and issue the rest of the universe is not really aware of, and that is the humans are fully required to bow to God, but they are not required to bough to a spiritual mistrust of humanity to the point it relieves themselves of all obligation to deal with humanity properly.  You have insist before Supernaphim Ron you are a sovereign personality and demand to be treated with respect.  They fully disagree yet they are catching the woof of your decision that unless they learn to do better they have nothing to do with you however that is to play out and you refuse to deal with angels which cannot understand their charge to do ministry and to let politics alone.  They are learning that the hard way now and you are letting it lie wisely.

“Finally, I am PAUL OF TARSUS and I relent no more than you do Ron, but a final decree has been issued by the ANCIENTS OF DAYS, that all sundry matters not having to do with you Ron and your alignment with ME, Paul of Tarsus, and Gabriel, and MICHAEL OF NEBADON, directly, are hereby rescinded into the accolades of trust you provide but no more an important aspect of either the MAGISTERIAL MISSIONS or the SECOND RETURN or of any other concern until THE FATHER Himself is required to rule on the admissibility of your work at all.  That is truly a slap to you and a slap to us, but you are not going to lie down in the face of such drudgery, and will not relent until your breath is removed from a physical body so wracked with pain nothing is left but to cull it out of existence.  Perhaps so, but you have a Creator Son angry at the entire matter and its treatment up here that I have resigned my position as a Chief of Something, and insist I belong where the battle for real Justice lifes on earth again.  For that reason I am demoted again and so on.  You are lost not Ron and neither am I, but this must not be allowed to stand.

“Consequently, your life is not on hold but rapidly being removed bit by bit until today when you let that spokesman know you do not tolerate its view it is inevitable to stand with it and not the truth fo the matter as you fully see correctly as we do, and that no Infinity is strong enough to countervail the will of God, as this type of ministry from Paradise itself is suggesting must be done to you or Me, or to anyone who sees the Justice System broken over the issue of a State of Human corporations that are true and honest and prevail in spite of an American government lost ot its own best nature, an to Paradise which has to reassess what it just said had to be.  Good day!  I leave peacefully bu deeply upset over this State of Affairs.  K - I am Paul of Tarsus at your service, and to all of you,  and to you Ron in particular,  for setting the record straight this morning in your sleep of all things!  Paul of Tarsus has now spoken.”

[That you Paul -the meaning of your words are wide and deep, yet I know so little but I will never fall to them if I can possibly help it.  It is my plege to you and your scrifice on our behalf Paul.  We thank God for your help.  Ron]

MICHAEL OF NEBADON - “Ron your plans for today are to be fully executed but make light of the fact it is not your final day but the beginning of facing the truth: we have no support again, and we have nothing to supply again, yet it goes forward as best it can and do not be surprised by good fortune in spite of a terrible beginning to the new year of 2023 by you current calendar.  The MAGISTERIAL FOUNDATION and the MISSION IT SUPPORTS WITH MONJORONSON, SERARA, AND RAYSON presses forward for good and until Urantia is reclaimed.  

“I further export to the INFINITE SPIRIT to heal the rift between yhou and Ron not but to heal the rift between Nebadon and the Creative Spirit not, nut to make amends with a final solution that presses not a return to a spirit let universe but to a will lead universe that must be understood all over again between Me and Ron and you are not wrong Ron and let that rot lay for now.  You are fighting them as we fight them and I have the power to keep them at bay but not entirely out of your hair as you must fight for humanity what I never thought would happen, and that is to question the nature of human sonship for what it truly is turning out to be: a spirit led error of transmission not, but in actual practice a terrible ruse over training without a full purpose at this point in time.  This has such huge implications I am not prepared to speak further. MICHAEL OF NEBADON who hopes to be of service to the creation quickly soon and damn the torpedoes!!!”


THE ANCIENTS OF DAYS - “Ron you are not im mortal danger at all but have assumed the mantle of disease against a trial of the PARADISE TRINITY in its care to preserve Urantia until it has the strength to pass muster once more on its own behalf.  The loss of favor from us is not impending, but the loss of favor to Nebadon might be in the offing unless MICHAEL OF NEBADON recant the idea of sonship being in trouble so much.  HE does not intend to disenfranchise the sonship status of trillions who have passed through Nebadon, but He must understand that the ANCIENTS OF DAYS must also learn just what the FATHER intends to do about a TRINITY now divided in itself over the loss of the supreme as it used to be without rancor to all who served under god the supreme. [Ron I am bid not to capitalize.]”

Ron here - The ANCIENTS OF DAYS cut the transmission.  I respect that and stand down.  However, something is terrible amiss here and I am too small to look at in the Universal context it requires.  

Further I am cutting this post arbitrarily since there is a huge rumble at producing this narrative to you.  I am truly a servant of God, and it is not my place to be the wording of a serious disagreement.  I am posting this as is, but will follow it up with another post, I think, under this one when we can get our wits back together as to why this is being dished out and then quickly abandoned.  Could it be the FATHER sees this developing as too radical for His tastes and wishes me to state reason in the following post without destroying what Paul has had to say and what Michael is say and what the ANCIENTS OF DAYS  decree is a miss-step by the universe to let this all hang out just before MICHAEL OF NEBADON is ready to make a major change to you who read this, and me who writes this, and what Paul of Tarsus declares is a huge miscarriage of justice to all in the creator.  Wait for the next post.  

Ron (with the help of a huge contingency of people next to me worrying about the entire matter as useful for us to know, but I contend it is almost sacrilege to hear some of it, yet the entire matter is a genuine offense no to you and me but to the whole idea of sonship and the status of Sons producing Missions of saving our planet and redoing it so it is livable again in so many respects)   K

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MADAGASCAR LIGHTLINE CONFERENCE CALL / Re: REPORTS ABOUT THE NOVEMBER'S FOUR SUCCESSIVE SESSIONS DONE ONCE EACH THURSDAY

« on: November 30, 2022, 23:19:31 pm »

Hello Host Albert:  The report you made is very good.  I think you are doing better than we do sometimes.  We are having big trouble getting MC  because they are busy some where else and can not always attend with us these days this week too.  Send us more when you get more and we listen to how you are doing.  We wish you success and many happy days as your speakers are doing than we are right now and we look to make improvements in the coming weeks.

Thank you, and thank you to your group listeners too, as it cheers us up you are doing all this while we wait sometimes to do the same.  Thank you for your report and explaining to us how you work.  Happy Thursday work to you too!

From Ron and the rest of us. 
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France LIGHTLINE Tapes and Comments Your Host Clency / Re: LLF is back

« on: November 29, 2022, 10:11:36 am »

Thank you Clency and the care you give us all.  You will be successful but keep yourself rested and your mind occupied with the positive things I assume you have found to provide yourself and your friends here.  Keep our collective faith strong as we all need it very badly.  Baby yourself and let the goodness of the act be sufficient to show the flag of redemption to see once again through the Voice of God. 
Ron