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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: May 07, 2024, 11:31:53 am »

• 050624 Lightline Netherlands International, host Elise, other transmitter: Ron Besser
• Subjects: The enormous speed of spirit communications and actions compared to humans may result in conflict; When men himself try to find solutions to their serious problems is when spirit can step in to help; Urantia’s focus on materialism without regards for the essence of life makes it impracticable for revelation and solution, but there will be the Missions; Men thinks he can save his life by gathering his goods, but Father wants people to care; Time for action is urgent. The alarm bell has sounded; Father knows what the outcome will be; and much more.  
• Speakers: Arthura, Machiventa Melchizedek, Christ Michael, Jesus, and the Universal Father
• Transcriber: sonsofGod
• Link to recording: h; ttps://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240506_110043

Elise  
Hello, everyone. Welcome. Good day and good evening to all. This is Monday, May 6, 2024. This is Lightline Netherlands International with your host, Elise. And I thank you for being here with me, especially today. Why today? Well, let me tell you why. For some reasons discussed on the Sunday Lightline, I had decided today to cancel the Lightline for the Netherlands International, but as I was typing up a message for the discussion forum, I was commended or called, how do you say that, in some short words by Father that I should try to open the Lightline despite of everything that's working against the intentions of Spirit that have made it so difficult to hold a Lightline lately. So of course, that's what I'm doing now, and here we are, and let's see what happens.

So far we have, we are with 12 all together on the call, and I'm glad that you're all here to support me, despite the conflicting messages we sometimes receive that causes confusion. But I think that the prevailing feeling of spirit within me always proves to be stronger and helps me to overcome, and to make the right decision. So let's start and ask about the ever present spiritual help we can always rely on. And of course, we will ask for clear reception and true words, and we thank our Father, we thank Michael of Nebadon, and all who assist us in this Lightline. Amen.

Now, let me try to get a connection with someone who would like to speak to us.

Arthura  
This is Arthura, Elise. Greetings to all. I'm glad to see where there is an audience, and I'd like to speak to all. It has been a while, but it's this. You all find it strange that spirit statements change quickly. And it is as if now real decision or valuable decision has been made there, but that is not the case. Because thinking and acting in spirit goes at an enormous speed. And there are many thoughts and actions going on between two seemingly opposite messages. But I tell you that many things have been considered and decided when you, as the external listener, hear the result of those thoughts or actions.

You as humans have no idea how much can be discussed or re discussed or completed in a split second in spiritual communication. And that is such as its ideas and thoughts or ideals, actions, and even creations, and, well much more. That is all done in a… well, in thousandths of a second of your time, which is the normal way for us to converse or act about so much, and all that needs attention in a vast and multi phased universe of the Father. Remember that.

Remember that tremendous speed that I can be with you. That I can meet your needs. I do not even have to travel if I do not want to. We are able to reach you from any point in the universe. But to familiarize ourselves more with human conditions, we phase down and come closer. It would take ages if spirit had to communicate as you do. So, always remember the great differences between yourself and spirit. There is a difference in status and capabilities that we may use, and must use to communicate, to negotiate, to meet, and act.

Yes, the universe is vast people, you have no idea and cannot have any idea of the dimensions and applications made available by the Father for the Master Universe. You simply do not have the capacity to even imagine the vastness and all the possibilities that have been brought into existence. And I'm not able to explain any of that right now to you all.

I am Arthura, and I have come down to help all of you on your plane of existence. So do not worry about what you do not understand, but enjoy the connection and be aware of my presence. Ask for me, and I will continue to teach small lessons like this for your edification. I love to be with you, and I know all of you always listen. I will depart now. I'm Arthura at your service. Good day.

Elise  
Thank you, Arthura.
Is there anyone else would like to speak today? Well let's have patience.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. Hello, my dear people. Well, how do I start? The world is a mess. You know it. And sometimes we have a feeling that humans really do not know what they are doing in a world that is sinking deeper and deeper into trouble. If this continues, this world is going to lose all it has achieved, and it's civilization to just bubble. Which means a senseless happiness of materialism and its harmful influence on men, who has deprived the world of God, so essential for a planet with living beings, for all endowed with reason.

I'm Machiventa. And you know that the nature of man in the beginning is to survive. And each of the tribe or the group has to take care of himself. And it then slowly develops into a small society of caring for the group. And then to learn to work together for their protection and safety, and the sharing of what they need. And then finally, to start building a more prosperous society where every individual benefits, and where everyone has an opportunity to develop into a social and right minded being. A being, a person that is able to contribute to society, and is prepared to learn from the lessons learned in the past, retaining the good and disregarding the rest.

Well, how is it on Urantia? One wonders. This world seems to have forgotten not only God, but also its brothers and sisters. And interest is only focused on the individual to achieve the highest possible position in society and create a most comfortable life for himself. But what is really a terrible thing, this is now taking root in the minds and hearts of so many young people who are about to take over the leadership of their predecessors. And we know how difficult it is to unlearn habits and to adapt new ones. And that will certainly be the case here on Urantia, provided that changes take place in a reasonable short time. But that will require the discipline of the entire population on all of your continents of the world.

Well, I think you can see as well as I do, that that is almost an impossible task. It covers dozens of levels and of course, cannot be learned in one lesson. Particularly, because many seem to be quite satisfied with what they have, with what they have achieved. But we in spirit, we will wait and see what they think, and finally realize when they see what has been accomplished in reality, and done to the world. It's a pity and it will be given to man himself to find solutions to their serious problems.

But you can still count on our help. When man is freed from its worldly pleasures, and greed, and he's turning his attention to what needs to be done, then we, the Melchizedeks and many others will stand with you. We will help your government making the right decisions, and ensure that provisions are made and put into place, which will benefit the entire population and slowly restore the world from a long period of pride, and start building a healthy and solid society. A sustainable world with attention to every human, animal, tree, or plant is not for everyone. And that will not be easy to bring about. It's such a complete change, but it must be done if Urantia is to remain a planet on which intelligent life exist for the purpose of evolving into an era of Light and Life.

I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and I gave you these words, maybe again, maybe once more in a different tone. But for your consideration to share with those who have ears to hear and a heart to feel that God is present in all of you, and to make a healthy world possible for everyone. I'm Machiventa, and I thank you for listening, and good day.

Elise  
Thank you, Machiventa.
Now, this is Elise, and I have to see if there's anything else. I hope someone else will be speaking to us.

Christ Michael
Hello, everyone, hello, my children. This is Christ Michael. I greet you all and I want to tell you something. It's the following. A little bit thinking back to what Machiventa just told you, it is not that the people on Urantia do not deserve a Mission. Or that it's not the time for a Mission or a visit of a Magisterial Son to the planet. No, it's not that. It is the attitude of the people and the lack of knowledge of God's name, which needs to be honored and known, in order to go beyond a near Mission involving a visit to the planet to assess its status and that of human beings.

I am Christ Michael. I know you all I know how you think and how you feel. And I also know that you are all familiar with the work of Ron Besser that he has prepared, and how hard he has worked to make it possible for you to maybe participate in a partial way in the Missions that have been prepared, and are expected of the situation on your world with a population that does not recognize the existence of God. Is almost, it is almost impracticable to reveal anything, and be even more difficult to set up with you and for you a policy in favor of men, because there is so much to do and so much will have to be changed, and men is so unwilling to assume that this work is in divine hands.

You all know that Jesus has tried in every possible way to make himself known to some of the public on Urantia, but he has not been accepted. He has not been recognized. They just walked by Him. Jesus has been to your world several times to investigate what people are doing, how they live, what they are thinking. And each time he came back disappointed and said, the sense of togetherness is far far away among these people. He felt any soul that goodwill towards peace is not in the hearts of your leaders. And there is no trace of any faith or reverence for God, whose name should not be spoken without reverence.

So, know there we are. Urantia is in a hopeless state of spiritual backwardness (? Elise: if that's the word I'm not sure but that's what I hear), backwardness and is too much focused on the material aspect of life without regard for the essence of life. And so, it continues to keep its people from spiritual and social development in a … oh, I have to say it, a murderous and belligerent manner.

And then you also have churches that have not understood or realized in time that their teachings do not lead to growth of the soul, but rather to fear God. To fear the afterlife, instead of the joy of getting closer to God, and to know and learn that God is in each of them. So there needs to be a major change in mindset to lead the people of this world, towards a better life a better future. And this will happen under the leadership of those who will visit the planet as soon as there is an opportunity. And then Jesus will be able to begin his work, of his teachings, as you can call it teachings about the purpose of life, on a planet where people work, can work in cooperation with the spirit world. Where they can develop their existence into a realm of peace and prosperity for all, without exploitation of your people or nature, which is happening on a large scale on your world today.

I am Christ Michael. I do not want to scare you. I am with you. We do everything to be with you, to do our work for this beautiful planet. We are all preparing for that time, and we want to implement that as quickly as possible. What is on the agenda, what is needed for all those people who have had to endured for such a long time, the hardships of a planet in disarray, and confusion, And of whom some have become so accustomed to money, they now regard it as their salvation.

Let's all thank the Father who long for us. We are working with him in his creation. Working with Father gives satisfaction to one's life. It has nothing to do with earthly goods. It is the inner self of each individual that counts and will elevate him to a true child of God. I am Christ Michael and I give you here my blessings. And now I have to leave again. I wish you all a good day. And I wish to return soon.

Elise
Thank you, Christ Michael.

Jesus
This is Jesus.

Elise
Welcome, Jesus.

Jesus
Thank you. Welcome to you all. I'm here to say that your feelings, all of your feelings have the right to be concerned about the situation in the world. It is not a small part of the world that suffers from bad decisions in any sector of your world. And that still runs It's profited from everything. While they are aware of the terrible consequences, their decisions will have on climate or atmospheric disturbances. Yes, it is true. People and animals suffer enormously from the changes that humans bring about. And actually, there is no nation that really cares. But know this. Whatever they think they gain will fall to ashes or disappear beneath the waters of the oceans that are about to flood, taking with them vast landscapes and even cities as It conquers the land masses.

Men thinks he can save his life by gathering his goods, but that can all be destroyed. And in doing so, he is almost destroying the best thing he needs to take care of, and that is his soul. It is the soul that develops through experience in worldly and spiritual value, of what you achieve in your life on a material planet. Your soul grows by doing the will of the Father. Is harming nature, is harming people, or abusing animals, the will of the Father? No, Father is love. And love comes from the heart and not from the mind. Father wants you to care. And that means care for everything and everyone that lives on the planet, and that you may use for your well being, for your growth and experience. But, above all, to live with and for each other, and to build together a strong, sustainable society that can provide support to everyone who is a part of it.

Spiritual growth takes place on many different levels and is a collection and appreciation of all that man does and propels him on his eternal path. There are many things happening in your life that you are not aware of. But that have grown your soul and brought to you fulfillment in your trials as a conscious living being that is created by God and therefore evaluated by God, and not by men. How many of you are thinking of a future with possessions that are being shared. Without your personal belongings without even personal savings that are safely locked away in your money banks, where they lie until they have no value at all. How many people in this world have so many billions actually stand up to defend their brothers and sisters, so that they feel safe and protected.

Oh yes. when the need arises, and there is no way out, help will come. But when things return to normal people forget the misery and fall back into their old routine. I am Jesus. I belong to you. I belong to your planet. And I say no longer, no longer. People will learn that destruction requires everything from every person in solidarity, to build new communities, where everyone has a fair chance to participate, to have their own responsibilities, and where no member is excluded, and where no one is judged for appearance, or other qualities that give people their unique character. The time of truth is knocking loudly at your door. And every right thinking individual knows it. But few have committed to making changes on a global scale.

Isn’t it strange that adversity is felt both above and below, and even those in Spirit are held up by senseless violence and behavior of those who do not value life and completely ignore its purpose. The consequences are tangible and highly visible. And warnings continue to be ignored. How long can a world continue to bring about its own destruction? We don't know, but we see total destruction if we don't take urgent action and find solutions that will require sacrifice from everyone. It requires the will and strength to dedicate yourself fully to saving life. Life on this planet, this beautiful planet. Let's all step forward.

This is Jesus, and I say to you, verily, verily, be aware. Be good. Be courageous and take upon yourself what you can save. The time for doubt is over. Time for action is urgent. The alarm bell has sounded. This Is Jesus. Your master and your friend who cares for this planet, and who cares for all of you. Good day

Elise
Thank you. Thank you so much Jesus.
Now, let me have a look at the dashboard. Oh, I lost the dashboard, hold on please. Here it is. Let ‘s see if there are there any more names? Yes. We have Steven Gitz joining us and Charlotte. And I think, Roger Raz, and two numbers, 2038 and 5602. Thank you for joining, all of you. So, it makes 16 callers, 16 people altogether. Well, now we have to see if there was anyone else for us.

Universal Father
Yes, Elise. This is Father. And I'm here to tell you that everything regarding the Magisterial Foundation, its subsidiaries, the invention, the patent, etc, are well done. But the whole situation in a confused world, where people are stuck in the material gain is highly problematic. And its people are hardly receptive to any influence or guidance from spirit. And we know there are many, many problems. Yes, there are, and the serious problem you had of the cabal, the insurgents, who had have taken out their anger on humans, who are unwilling to listen to any solution or understanding from our side.

And then there is the earth core, sometimes behaving against all rules, and somewhat stuck, in its position. The incredible intransigence of scientists to accept anything that's outside of their understanding. All of this makes it almost impossible for a spirit to gain a foothold on the planet. And then, there are your governments, they distrust each other, and cooperation is far from their agenda. So now, as your Father, I know that the common interest should be the restoration of the planet. But despite all evidence of destructive exploitation, people continue to seek their pleasure elsewhere, without regard for their environment. The Earth, on which humans depend, your world that needs your care, to continue functioning as a healthy planet.

The Magisterial Foundation is very useful and is still voluntary owned by the Melchizedeks, who ensure that it remains a useful institution for any spiritual mission. And we hope that those who are responsible for running and maintaining the nations will have an idea to come to order and peace.

I am your Father. I am your Universal Father. And I say to all of you, do not worry about all of this, how this is to be resolved or what the future of man on this planet will be. But rest in the fact that the Father, your Father, in his omnipotence knows what the outcome will be. And I as your Father will not miss one opportunity to do what is in my power to give every life a full chance. Men on this planet still has much to learn, but Urantia is not a forgotten planet. Your Father knows his universe. And I know my purpose for each of you, and for everything in my creation. This is your Father. I asked you to let go of your problems and leave them to the experience and knowledge of higher powers, who always go to great lengths to help any inhabited world. And I'm as your Universal Father, I am waiting to see how things will unfold as time passes, and to see what the future holds for Urantia, together with other planets that have been so long behind in their evolution. My dear children, go in peace and be good to yourself and others. I bid you a good day.

Elise
Thank you, Father. Thank you for speaking to us.
Let me see. Well, I have to go along the list here, and I would like to unmute Ron Besser, if he is there.

Ron, are you there? I unmuted you.

Ron Besser
Yes, Elise. I'm here, thank you.

Elise
Oh, well. Do you have anything for us?

Rob Besser
Let me check one moment.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. Ron Besser has been listening carefully to your Lightline Elise, and thinks it is beautifully done, and thank you for taking care of it today. We are a little unsure about how to put the Lightlines together in this interim period. The interim period is going to last probably through May 15^th or 16^th, but after that we may have the Missions to announce. I know that Ron has been ambivalent, and that's probably because Michael of Nebadon has been ambivalent as to precisely what is to happen. But today, actually this morning, we firmed it up with Ron in attendance, and he is ready to take what orders are necessary to bring it to your full attention when it's time. Right now, is a few days too soon to announce it.

And finally this and then we'll turn it back to you, Elise, because our time is almost up. I want you to know that Ron Besser, Dominick Ohrbeck, and others who have made the Magisterial Foundation what it is, and that's George Meyer and Steven Gitz, and of course you, Elise, and others that I can't think of right now, are working very hard to make sure that it stays together, and is a place to tune to, even when others may fail.

Universal Father
I am the Universal Father. Ron was trying to plan for a major conference for the Magisterial Foundation, May 17th. He has been put back permanently and we will tell you Board of Directors when to assume the Board of Directors once again. Right now, the Magisterial Foundation is under the Melchizedeks. Ron gave it to them months ago and he sees to it that they maintain the direction for the Magisterial Foundation. Ron is glad to help as are the Board of Directors, but we must ascertain that when the appearance of Christ, and others you do not know on to the planet earth, you will hear things you have never heard before. The Magisterial Foundation will be here to present them. Michael loves owning part of it as through the Melchizedeks, and as does the Board of Directors. I am warning you, Board of Directors, to please play it carefully. Ron was attempted to be murdered again. Steven Gitz has had one awful thing happened to him, and don't be too surprised that some of you on the board may have trouble getting online. The cabal is being chased out of Urantia, and we want you to know it. But until it's all done, be careful.

Machiventa Melchizedek
And now this is Machiventa Melchizedek to tell you, Ron, something you need to know. No, it's not that you're going to go over later today. It's that you have determined that there shall be additional information made available to those who honestly have the capacity to understand the science of your electrical plant. I am warning you no further discussion. He, the one that you did discuss with, is making a board of directors immediately for a chance to add to what you've done and claimed part of the idea. You are not going to allow it, and we will knock it down. You can't trust non-family.

And now finally this to you, Dominick. It is necessary that you're here later today. Although you are looking at it as a free day, don't . We want to see you this afternoon when you can get here. And further to the rest of you. There are 16 including me and Elise on the call today. You are all important regulars, and you need to understand that you're important listeners. You take for granted that which is told is correct., and it is. Ron is exceedingly careful to make sure that there is only one and true voice.

And now this is Machiventa Melchizedek to say this. Starting tomorrow, which is the 7^th of May, I wanted to be known that we are going to issue a proclamation from the Melchizedeks, that makes sure that anyone professing the ability to transmit and to become aware of the Missions will be required to check in with the Magisterial Foundation in order to be heard, as a group transmission to anyone else on the planet.

Ron says, well, isn't that nice? It consolidates and unifies this work. Ron’s transmissions are irrefutably very high. He and Christ Michael, and all the rest of the body that sees to a Mission on a planet are well coordinated, and they see to it that you hear it. We are not forcing anyone to join the Magisterial Foundation. The worst that can happen is that you're assigned a day to do a transmission and no further problem. Ron will be in charge of what day you can, unless you absolutely have to have a certain day, and that is with all the time available, easily done.

There are two people here. One is from Unity, and one is from well, another organization. I want you to understand please, you're not being forced to do anything. But it is in your interest to join in unity with the Magisterial Foundation, because that is the foundation we will use to do the Missions. Ron would welcome you. Give him a try. And now finally, back to you, Elise, but before it goes back, this from Christ Michael.

Christ MichaelI am now determined that the end of this rainbow be not forsaken. The rainbow is not Ron and the Magisterial Mission, it is you and your listening capacities. Stay with it and you will be protected. Go elsewhere and you may have a problem. Because we do not extend divine protection beyond the modulation of these Lightlines and the care that is required for the rest of the world to listen. We are now going to propose that Ron, you find another outlet for the Lightlines, because this has a limit of 100, unless you can buy more than 100. Find out.

Ron Besser
I will.

Christ Michael
And finally to you Elise. This is not your final Lightline although you're worried about it, keep after them. And finally, to you Rene Duran, keep your work standard. Keep going. And to anybody else that wishes to transmit please contact Ron. He will see to it that you get a space.

Machiventa Melchizedek
And now this finally to all of you. I am Machiventa Melchizedek. I wish you well. I wish you happiness, and I must disappear. I will be back In about two weeks. No, I'm not getting a typhus inoculation, Ron. (ha-ha) I never thought of that but thank you. And I wish you all well. Good day.

Ron Besser
This is Ron. Thank you Machiventa. I hold you as the premier speechmaker for us and wish you grand success and work with us when you can come back. Thank you from our very hearts. Thank you. Now, Elise, go ahead and take this back and close it.

Elise
Thank you, Ron, and thank you, Machiventa Melchizedek. And thank you Christ Michael, and the Universal Father, and our other speakers, Jesus and Arthura. I thank you all for being with us for this Lightline, for your time and your care. And I want to thank all the attendees that are here with me and support me. And well, I hope to be back next week, at same time at same station. And for now, goodbye to all

End

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Ascension, Revelation, Rebellion affects. Tues LL 04.30.24

« on: May 01, 2024, 20:48:24 pm »

• 043024 Audio Tape Tuesday Light Line USA; host: Dominick O., other transmitter: Ron Besser
• Subjects: A rather comprehensive review of personality, soul, will, energy, min, divinity, rebellion, ascension, pre-particle and pre-personality. An additional transmission(s) from Ron with mission status update and Mansion World announcement
• Speakers: Infinite Spirit, Machiventa Melchizedek, Michael of Nebadon, Universal Father
• Transcribed by: sonsofGod
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240430_110035

additional transcript added 5/5/2024 at the origin of this thread.
it is an updated and clarified version of the initial transcript posted below.
Transcripts often contain enough some element of error. There are some potential misunderstandings if 
a) you don't listen to it. or
b) the transcripts are not gone through for edit-review.
The transcription process, and editing-review process, takes as long or longer than the production of the lightline itself.
Dominick

Dominick
Tuesday Lightline, welcome. Its April 30^th and we have Roger and Steven coming in. We just pressed record. Carole welcome. We just pressed record, we're underway. We give a quick prayer that Father’s will be done. Father's business is in our hearts, and that we can serve Michael and our Creator Father.

A Lightline listens to the broadcast of the universe administration and administrators. It is a supplemental service to receive universe broadcasts. Supplemental to revelation that comes in many forms on and to a planet. Lightline is a collective or group, and planetary service is not individual auto revelation, but the transmitter of a human being on the planet receives the broadcast and picks up the transmission, and says what is received, ideally like a scribe. And strives to consciously know everything going on, does not go into the subconscious in receiving a transmission and therefore, is subject to interference of maintaining the connection, and that would be the clarity of the circuit.

And given the planetary status of handling insurrection and rebellion on a spiritual level, the word channel refers to the circuit itself, not the act of receiving the transmission. So, the verb is transmitting. The verb typically associated with the past known as channeling, and then it was referred to here as a noun of the channel just like a CB radio or TV. We ask is there a clear channel and not to be confused with whether or not we are using the channeling of old. We are not, we are using a new and updated service called transmission of receiving universe broadcasts.

[Seamless transitioning taken place here to receive a long transmission from High Spirit, whose name remained unrevealed.]

High Spirit  
One of the things anticipated from the epochal revelation, given in the mid 20th century was that there was this known court case in human history that stretches beyond the planet of Gabriel versus Lucifer. And it was announced supplemental to the epochal revelation that the judgment was handed down from the universe Ancient of Days siding with Gabriel and adjudicating in some forms the rebellion, but that it still exists and its noncompliance to the law and the judgments today. That's still being worked out. And that has been occurring, that status has been occurring since 1986, and continues today when the broadcast of Salvington, the headquarters world of our universe known as Nebadon, and our Creator Lord, and Father, a Creator Son from Paradise, a divine Son, a Paradise Son of also deity status known as Michael of Nebadon, who is the divine Son of man with a capital S when Jesus proclaimed to be both, the son of man with lower capital and the Son of Man (Son of God) with an uppercase capital.

He was both human and divine, because Michael of Nebadon incarnated, and in fact bestowed himself from an early human… as an early babe on the planet, to experience what it was like to be in His creation, and it fulfilled the status known as sovereignty over his creation, it revealed the Universal Father to all the universe, not just the planet. And that was the primary aspect of his mission of a Bestowal here on this particular planet, amongst hundreds of thousands of human planets that are capable of ascending and being indwelled by both, spirit and the indwelling of the Father. Which is that pre personal divine aspect, that divine spark, that core within us.

Those who would be known as sons of God, contain this divine spirit of the Universal Father within them, and those who don't are not eligible to ascend to the Father. They may ascend on a different path, but when the divine spark of the Universal Father we refer to as the Thought Adjuster is not indwelling the human, that human is in grave danger of defaulting on its human status of both spirit and animal, and without it is likely to become just an animal. Certainly, the animal is endowed with certain aspects of spirit, referred to as mind. And that would be an aspect of the Holy Spirit, the Trinity of the Infinite Spirit and our Mother Spirit, and in most local universes there is a Creator Son with a Mother Spirit. And that is the Son and the Spirit working together in their local universes, and that the human being is also endowed with the Universal Father. That's just a quick explanation of how a human being is Trinitized by one God, with body, mind, Spirit, and the Divine Spirit of God.

The universe, the rebellion that we referred to laid waste to the understanding and clarity of what we just provided as a educational narrative. There is confusion around what type of being you are in spirit. And that is referred to as an order with a capital O, like a classification. The example of this, when we talk about a Trinitized being is that you are a son of God, and so, there is a classification it's almost like an Alpha and an Omega, beginning and an end, a top and a bottom. When the Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon is that, is the top of that hierarchy of sons of God, and in between our various order of different classifications of son that descend in an awakening order of perfection of divinity.

Are various mythologies and mores and knowledge of these various Sons are get confused with angels who they work with and we work with in different ways. But some of these lower orders of Sons of God or are known to us such as the Most Highs, which are correlated with the rulership of entire planetary systems and individual planets. There are very high ordered Sons referred to as the Life Carriers. And these are the planetary seeders who seed planets with life and foster that until there is an evolution of soul bearing entities, at which case they leave the same, and that allows the other Sons to see to the administration of these beings. In other words, these Life Carriers create planets to be eligible to house souls, which is one purpose that Creator Sons go out from Paradise to create a universe, to create souls and citizens of the universe for future service. They ascend, we ascend into Paradise that completes our training, and we go forth for future service having attained our eternity status, or immortality. And the guarantee or guarantor of that immortality is this Thought Adjuster, this divine spark of God.

Now, yesterday’s (Sunday’s ?) and Monday's Lightline was a precursor to today's Lightline. They can run seamlessly so it benefits those who attend day in and day out that they enjoy a series of thought broadcasts from the universe, and certainly those who read can do it too.

So, what we start with today and this is transmission, we do not care to reveal ourselves at this time, we simply went into transmission. For those of you who read you could try listening. We understand reading is faster in the mind. And so, for that reason, you might try listening to a transmission, say double the speed, that you speed up the processing of your mind without having to wait for these transmission receptions, which create these pauses. As transmitters keep doing this they get better and they will eventually flow into conversational tone and pace. Let us go back to this ascension scheme, together with the context of what we're going through, as a planet, as a system, that has suffered rebellion.

So, we have these things, talked about yesterday, the personality and some of these things that are bestowed by the Universal Father. One aspect of these things, namely, personality, will, free will. Is that these are truly mysteries, they can be described, but they ultimately cannot be entirely predicted.

The third aspect of this mystery is the Universal Father within. So, these three aspects are true mysteries in the human experience, and the human science, it can be described, it can be somewhat explained through observation and experience, but it cannot entirely be predicted or entirely known. And so, it makes complete sense that these are attributes of a gift and bestowal that the Universal Father gives to your order of the human being. Michael of Nebadon has and with Jesus wished to reveal this last mystery of the Universal Father to you.

In that respect, Jesus still exists and Michael of Nebadon still exist. And the duality and oneness of their experience is that you may experience each separately or together. Do not be confused or entirely claim or wish to split up the two, just allow it in. Having mentioned the Bestowal, it was not at the steal that was for the specific purpose of rebelling adjudication. However, one aspect of the experience of Jesus was that he defeated the rebels as a human and not entirely as the divine Creator Son. The rebels aren't and surely, aren't entirely sure what happened.

Dominick
One moment. Okay.

Speaker
So, we have touched upon the attributes and gifts of the Universal Father within you, we talked about the personality yesterday, and the personality is this gift of the Father which is imprinted, if you will, for lack of a better word, imprinted on the energy system, to give that energy system that form a personality and that personality is provided a will, in your case freewill. And furthermore, since you have this ascension as part of your humaneness, you have this gift of the Universal Father. And we only repeat that because these other sons, and in fact the entire other order of the Infinite Spirit, do not contain this gift within them as part of them. And so you have as humans, both the greatest handicap, handicap, and the strongest gift of spirit of the Universal Father himself attaining experience in his universe through you, with you.

The soul is what you work on with the Father, to build the capacity to have a new form, a new body if you will, when your material energy form dies, materially it's going to happen to everyone because it's an electrochemical mind that cannot live forever, and so that you have a new form, a new mind, a new body, but the angels work to safe keep all that you are as a personality, and all your experience that you have attained that is of universal value. In other words, very mundane experience, not all of it is a kept, but that which is you can say ‘real’ is kept.

And you are reconstituted in this morontial form, which is a word for no longer entirely material, but not wholly spiritual yet. And so in between is this word morontial with its various levels. And you have a morontial soul, and eventually you're working on fusion of all of these things. Your soul is the new form of you, your personality, this mystery of personality is constant, even amongst all the changes you know this to be true, because you experience it even in the flesh, constantly changing, and yet the personality remains constant. And so part of the early ascension is this striving for fusion that the Universal Father’s Thought Adjuster, the cornice of you, that small still voice within, fuses with your personality and your soul. The reason we're making these distinctions is that fusion, normally certainly in this stage of a planet is not happening but has happened to the point where you have the reference of chariots of fire, which is what would normally happen If fusion were to happen if the spirit claims you as having satisfied the mortal life and attained enough that you ascend.

So, we have a new chapter today, this could be a review for some, but it should be known by now that we are revealing some of the more confusing elements of what has already been revealed, when we allude to the Spirit of God within, the Universal Father’s Thought Adjuster within you, as something called pre personal. Just as you have a personality, the divine spark of God itself is the Universal Father, but one of the benefits of fusion is that this Thought Adjuster which is adjusting your thoughts ever towards spirit and adjusting your animal mind into a spiritual mind. This Thought Adjuster has no personality and seeks to reward you in fusion with immortality, and that you in return are now doing and understanding and seeking the will of the Father to the point that your ascension and immortality is guaranteed, and your personality is therefore immortal. You become one, and part of the mystery and oddity of this communication in the early stages you're in is that God speaks to you in your own voice.

So, this is some aspect of the pre personal designation that would otherwise be confusing but should be coming together and understanding and less confusion on this rebel planet. When the rebels claim you are a) immortal, b) angelic, or that these orders of beings are indistinguishable from another, and you could say c) that because they blasphemy and rebelling against both Michael and the Universal Father, they have no special interest in seeing to your ascension. And so in the past they have interfered with things called the grid, which is that tarrying place, that staging place between the planetary souls ascending to their safekeeping on the mansion worlds. Those training worlds of soul progression towards the fusion that we've talked about.

And so, since the rebels’ blasphemy against the Father, and truly do not care whether or not you ascend, they have, from time to time, greatly interfered and greatly destroyed a number of souls, certainly on this planet within the universe in the name of their own sovereignty. And it behooves you to know this, because when you build your soul through experience, and choice, and intent and attitude, you become more real. It is only those souls who are so weak in survival experience and value that they are susceptible to a not having a strong enough soul to survive the afterlife. In other words, it can be quite a shock to some, because you carry over your same attitudes, beliefs, everything, it is almost a seamless transition when you are resurrected. And so, people do struggle, and people do have the choice still, whether or not they wish to ascend. And when this confusion of rebellion obviously is carried over this has harmed a great many souls as well.

Further revealed and contributed to this mystery of the pre personal is now this correlation of the pre particle when it is revealed to you that deity can be personalized or not. You can look to these two comparisons of the pre personal Father and the pre particle referred to as the ultimaton. Both of these things cannot be observed, but they can be inferred, and they can be worked with to produce amazing results to the material form. It just so happens that your material form has a personality and those that do not have a personality remain as energy. And that energy has at its core the ultimaton, which is not yet a fully formed particle, but is rather referred to as a pre particle.

And here's where you get the nuance between mind. Mind can also be bestowed upon energy. And so this is where the confusion comes in, whether our mind has free will or not. And we say yes and no, it does not always mean it's endowed with freewill. You now know this through technology as the mind is bestowed on personality-less technology and computers, and nonetheless can mimic to a great deal what would be recognized as attributes of personality. You would be better to attribute this to mind.

It is the animal kingdom which you anthropomorphize personality on to a lot, it's no great error to say your favorite dog and cat has a wonderful personality. They do, the technicality is that they have a wonderful mind and it's the personality of spirit. But the difference is, they are not endowed with this pre personal fragment of the Universal Father, they do not have an ascension scheme for them of immortality and future service as you would.

So, pre personality is God the Father revealed by Jesus residing in you. Material reality is ultimately comprised of ultimate times which are pre matter. And so, we have the deified and undeified in time and space. And so, what is deified in time and space are these personalities. Deity is what can be still a personality, the undefined is simply energy. And furthermore, the energy may be completely inanimate and subject to its design, or it may be endowed with a form of mind, so that it can fulfill its functions. And you have come to the technological advancement on this planet to understand that.

And so, what a future Mission will look like as a fulfillment of a need to resolve and proclaim what is the truth in the destiny potential of human beings, so that you have a framework and a baseline from which to have any relations with. In other words, this will govern your individual behavior, your interaction with others, all the way up to your state and local governments, your federal governments, and your international relations. And will give you the vision of universal brotherhood and sisterhood.

Without this, there would be no hope to resolve your warlike ways. The belligerence that is or has been evolved and baked into your very DNA guarantees this trajectory if there was to be no insertion of revelation. You are a drop in the ocean with auto revelation, individual revelation. You have, therefore, different modes of Revelation, all the way up to a epochal, which is synonymous with planetary revelation. And furthermore, we share with you that the epochal revelation, such as the fifth and the fourth here on Urantia do extend beyond your planet. Certainly, Jesus was, and so why not the fifth? And therefore do we remind you, the revelation is under the administration and governance of your superiors that are off planet, and subject to your obeisance.

In other words, you follow what we guide an order, and then you should seek to receive us. It is not enough to take a static revelation and take it upon yourselves to conjecture and project the trajectory of its evolution. There's where you should ask yourself whether or not you're doing that. There’s a simple measurement test of whether or not the revelation and revelations we broadcast and bestow, incarnate and literally provide in print form. Those are the questions you should ask; do you seek the will of the Father and his Sons that represent Him? And if you don't have you, what are you doing with our revelation with you, that you've taken it upon yourself to remove yourself from the controversy of discerning the truth between loyalty and rebellion.

Whenever you are confronted with this choice doesn't seem strange. And there is no shortage of irrational human logic to decide one way or the other. But it is interesting to note that when the foreignness of another brother’s and sister’s revelation meets your ears - and we're speaking in broad sense here - that those loyal to Michael find it almost required to express their loyalty. Simple paraphrase of a quote would be “I don't know what you're saying is true or not, and my instinct is to recoil and declare to you that I am loyal to Michael of Nebadon”. That is about how far you have come. And so now you take the next leap of faith and you seek to cooperate, not to recoil, but to say, “I agree that we, together, are loyal to Michael of Nebadon. We both have the Universal Father within us, and we seek to do His will. And therefore, do I seek to come to an understanding of such revelation that is worth that we can attend to the Father's business and the administration of His Son. Certainly, Michael of Nebadon, for he is the way”.

All right, we thank you for listening and we look to the dashboard. 2:47. All right, we can open it up to Q&A or other transmitters, we have 10 minutes left. You can press five star to raise your hand if you want something be explained or clarified. Certainly, there's another aspect, which is that you are likely to get more information, better information, or revelation answers that address previous revelation, or say things to us that the transmitter may not have even received yet, and that the understanding is that if you attend the call, there's two aspects of the call that you help out with. One is certainly your energy that contributes to the collective call. And two is any questions that you can formulate, because that's the way human beings do best, by asking questions and receiving answers. And then eventually revelation gets a feeling of stagnation and when that happens, that's, that's a prompt that we could be asking more questions.

Dominick
So we thank that transmission, and we thank you, Father, we thank the callers on the call. We thank Michael of Nebadon, certainly any Melchizedeks who were part of today's call.

Ron, I'm going to unmute you and see if there's anything. Hello Ron, you're unmuted. Is there any last words?

Ron Besser
Yes. I have a comment. That was a superior lecture. I am not sure who gave it through you, but I suspect it was one of the primary deities, maybe the Infinite Spirit, and I want to thank you for a really brilliant dissertation on the subject. Thank you, Dominick. And thank you, I believe. Infinite Spirit.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. Ron. You are listening casually, and working on some other aspects into it as you listen to it. And you found it so riveting you just gave everything back. Most of the people here do not quite understand the quality of transmissions when the top deities choose to lecture. In this case Dominick lectured not just with the Infinite Spirit but also with the Father and occasionally the Eternal Son. Dominick has more or less broken through with his transmissions and speaks with a highly placed spiritual aspects of the top deities that actually create you. You've enjoyed it and think Dominick should be thanked for being able to tune into something so marvelous.

Well, this is Machiventa Melchizedek, Ron. That you are able to discern the level he is speaking from and the way that they introduce materials is amazing to me, and to the other deities listening and watching you, Ron. Particularly, because this Lightline, which is on the 30th of April, 2024, and now five minutes till 3pm, I want you to understand that you are listening with all parts of your body. You found that what Dominick said and did amazing.

Ron Besser
Yes.

Machiventa Melchizedek
And for reasons of state we're going to give you Dominick's trust, for him to hear this.

When a Lightliner or a Lightline person is able to transmit the deity heads of all creation, he is able to apply himself to the other transmitters, including you Ron, for the transmission of higher level of what they have to say to the creation.

You have 16 callers listening on the phone. You have about 15 more listening to the transmission through other devices. Your transmissions particularly Tuesday and Wednesday are listened to carefully, because they train themselves to speak with the highest deity levels.

You Ron, speak without a prediction or a review of any other deities, except the Father. You enjoy the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit.

Ron Besser
I do.

Machiventa Melchizedek
And they will begin to issue rewards to you through the speakership of things like today's Lightline, and all remaining Lightlines left to you.

Now, let me tell you something that is occurring and irritates you, but you wisely stay back. You now have three groups, primarily on the West Coast who are transmitting Melchizedek.

Ron Besser
Yes, I'm aware of that and they do well. The transmissions, as far as I'm concerned, are flawless. Go ahead, please.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you. I am truly sure that they would do much better if they consigned themselves to a regular time and a regular place that you can supply. But they find you irritating, because you do not follow the prescribed protocols. You don't have to. And for reasons of state to those listening today and Dominick, neither is Dominick.

Machiventa Melchizedek of Infinite Spirit ?
Now, how does that, in particular get to the attention of the human mind? Well, first of all, it's natural. It's natural enough, it feels like you're being talked to rather than being lectured. Second of all, you Ron don't bother with protocol. You can't stand it, it gets in your way. As a consequence, you're far ahead of most transmitters. You can finish what they're saying in seconds, but you do not interfere. You do not want to interfere, because they are using the protocol of normal human mind, and you do much better with it.

Infinite Spirit
I am the Infinite Spirit, Ron, and I want you to know that your life is about done. You know it, this morning you are all over the place, because of their interference. I want you to know, I want everyone on this broadcast to know, that you have nothing to do with the mansion worlds. But they have a great deal to do with you at the moment.

We want in particular to Dominick to know that he has learned protocols under you that are far superior to any other protocol he could learn. For that reason, Dominick, I think we'll follow your footsteps and provide the best darn lessons you can hear. Don't be afraid of what is coming, Ron.

You spoke to the mission of the Supreme Court on Urantia this morning.

Ron Besser
And she should we be beside herself. Yes. I didn't, I wasn't as careful as I should have been. But I never know exactly who I am conversing with and what it is they may want. And she was wonderful. They all are. And I give this back to you Infinite Spirit.

Infinite Spirit
Thank you. That individual happens to be the supreme of the Supreme Court. I'm not allowing you to get the name, because I don't want it repeated. But she just died. She's over there, trying to recollect her work with the Supreme Court of the United States. Her work is superb. Her work demands that if you go over soon enough that you're part of her work. And for reasons of state, Pope Benedict the eighth insists that he learn how you do your work. No one seems to be able to do it.

And now I am the Infinite Spirit. I touch each of you. Feel my warmth. And for now, I turn this back to Michael of Nebadon for one last word before we turn it back to you, Dominick, to close it. One moment.

Ron Besser
This is Ron, thank you Infinite Spirit. You're always so moving.

Infinite Spirit
Thank you. And you're welcome, anytime.

Ron Besser
And now Michael, what have you?  

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you, Ron. You have been under great difficulty all day. It started with a look at the Supreme Court this morning. You are often writing that touches things like the Popes, the Supreme Court, Machiventa Melchizedek, and the rest of them. You are finally almost first stage spirit, Ron, but we dare not to talk about it. It's unrevealed. But ladies and gentlemen, please listen.

Ron is constantly harassed by groups outside of these Missions. Why? He doesn't happen to believe in protocol. That is endlessly an act to commemorate but does not listen to what they have to say. If Urantia listen to what the deities had to say, they would not stop. But you have the privilege of hearing it. Ron doesn't hide anything with language. He's one of the few that insists you get it as it comes. And it's not popular. And he could care less. You're getting it direct.

Now there is something I want to tell you, as Michael of Nebadon to the rest of you. Ron's life is nearly over in the flesh. He got hit this morning with the cabal again and is still trying to recover. We're not going to allow the cabal anywhere near him, starting now.

Furthermore, what do you have to say, say if anybody asks you, ‘Well, what's happening on Urantia these days? The answer happens to be, listen, on or about May 12 you will hear from Jesus in a general condition. I can't promise you how you will hear it, but there are several ways, and listen in all ways around May 12. Don't tag Ron about you didn't hear Jesus. We will make it clear that you hear from Jesus through other avenues.

Second, today, the head of the Supreme Court on Urantia, came to ask Ron to participate with her in forming an organization to prepare a law that follows the appearance of Jesus. Ron would be delighted. But he didn't know her, her use of the protocol or anything else. He answered casually, and well. She didn't understand what he said and dropped it. I am reinstituting the connection, and for that reason I'm asking her to be polite when she considers that Ron might be having enough inside information that she can hear a revelation of law. He has only the highest respect for her, and she for him now. But Ron is a paragon of entertainment and care. He knows how to do these things easily and well. He's had this since 1988, at China Pound when the Adjuster came out at 3am, got him up, and he fell down the steps. That's how it started. We congratulate him, but he's only at the beginning of spiritual training.

He enjoys the Supreme Court, Machiventa, and the Melchizedeks in general, and all the students of the Urantia Book and of their meeting place on high, which he listens to and communicates with I am pretty well finished with what I have to say, but hear for you to hear is the Universal Father. And the last word on what is to happen on Urantia.

Ron Besser
Thank you, Michael. If you're their Father, please go ahead.

Universal Father
Thank you, Ron. You got a beautiful protocol. I will shortly turn this back to you Dominick, and you can finish it. But I want an extra five minutes to tell you something no other planet has ever been told.

It's the planet, the planet of Bestowal. It's so important. One in 10 million planets gets it. Urantia is a Bestowal sphere of Michael of Nebadon and Jesus. It's about time you know it. One in 10 million human planets gets Jesus. It's so rare that the planet that receives it is set aside for other work besides ascension.

What we have to say today is frightening. Urantia has been left alone to develop because of an insurrection. It took place on Urantia. You've heard of the name of Lucifer He is a Lanonandek son. That's the name of the Sonship that rebelled. He's dead. But what he did was unbelievable. He set the destruction of this planet up by insisting that the humans on it never bother with God, but worry about their own skills and progress. Your planet today is one of the few planets that exercises that so well.

Your people when they come over, are often the leaders of groups on the mansion worlds to give a study to how to do something. There are people like Judy Garland, who thoroughly enjoys Ron, but she dare not speak to Ron, because the group feels it is against protocol to speak this low, to yet a human on a planet.

Well, starting tomorrow, any group individual that wants to talk with Ron, or anyone on any level, may start talking. And Ron, what is that under your arm?

Ron Besser
It's a sting. I don't know what it is.

Universal Father
I know what it is and they are dead.

Ron Besser
I think I thank you. Thank you.

Universal Father
Now this is Father. I get it. All right. You're just conversing with Michael.

Ron Besser
That's all I did. He asked me, I had to answer at least that.

Universal Father
Thank you. That infant that stung you on the arm is not dead. But she is reminded, you do it again and you are dead.

And finally to all of you before we turn this back to you Dominick. The trust today is to allow you Dominick to construct this Lightline in your merry way. Ron says it was beautiful. It contains information he is not familiar with. Keep it up. You have been taught well. You are cared for.

And now let me say this as a final note from your Father. Today's Lightline, the 30th of April 2024 is about the last Lightline we're going to permit me, the Father, to speak at length. When I get into the planet, I become more than upset. It is horrible. I want you to know we recognize the word horrible, and it is terrible horrible.

I am going to see to it that Jesus makes his entry sometimes around mid-May. Maybe as late as the 18th I've heard the 17th talked about I've heard the 12. But mid-May. We will cease all the communication circuits. Jesus will speak on everything broadcasting. And when it's done, some of you may be devastated.

I'm going to make it clear what happens if there is rebellion. I'm going to make it clear what happens if there is insurrection of the churches. And I'm going to make it clear that if there is an insurrection against the masterworks of the Urantia Book as it is delivered, there will be hell to pay for the insurrectionists. I generally do not make threats, but your beautiful Urantia needs a threat. I will not make a speech before I attend to this. Every broadcaster on Urantia will broadcast what I have to say. And I will tell them I am Father, the God of all.

And Ron has laid low all of the memory he has, and let me tell you what that means. He will not remember this speech. But I promise you, you will. You've heard from me now. This is probably one of the last Lightlines until the troubles begin in mid May. And I mean troubles. Please get some water into your house as extra water. And some extra food, maybe up to a month of what you need to eat without going to the store. Ron has already started. Dominick knows the drill. May all of you protect yourselves.

And now, I am your Universal Father. And I say Good day. briefly today at 6pm Eastern time, come back to this place to listen. There will be a Lightline and you should hear it. 6pm Eastern Daylight Saving Time if you want to hear more.

Ron Besser
And now Dominick, I'm turning this back to you, and thank you. Go ahead please.

Dominick
Okay, thank you, Ron. It's 3:19. We're including one less thing. Is there, so, there's a Lightline bonus, an extra today in less than three hours, same facilities. How are we for a Lightline through the rest of the week? Wednesday, you mentioned, Thursday at times, or is that just to be determined?

Ron Besser
That's to be determined. That's to be determined.

Dominick
Okay. Well, thank you, and we conclude this Lightline.

End

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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: May 01, 2024, 09:32:57 am »

The way I interpret Father Michael's sentence Weydevu is that due to some major changes coming upon Urantia in 5-8 months, sudden increase of spiritual awareness will spark people's interest in the Urantia book and might become a sought-after hot commodity. Until the sixth is realized having to read the erroneous fifth epochal revelation is much more beneficial than not knowing at all. In my opinion, it is a good way of preparation to receive the Sixth Epochal Revelation when it will be available about couple of years from now at least. That will serve as a great revealer of the entire rebellion and offer the needed correction of the fifth, I believe, without dangerous mixing up of who is who and what happened to the supreme. It is better to let that information alone for now, because it will be enough shock to the people of the earth, especially the church people, to discover the Truth of the Urantia Book in order to finally let go the bible being the sword of Damascus over sinners.  

May I also add that many pastors of the church known to be familiar with the Urantia Book, but unable to or rather unwilling to disclose it to their congregations, which would uproot the foundation of their ungodly hierarchical system that supports high positioning entitled to wealth accumulation, and giving of titles to the ego without accountability and graceful manifestation of what the title entails of (such as apostle, prophet, teacher, pastor, and evangelist that we all are, in the so-called five-fold-ministry), originally classified by Apostle Paul rightfully to clarify ones' role and responsibility within the congregation of the early church. In this late scenario it is falsely represented by every ambitious member of the church who allowed to pick one of the titles for themselves while sitting on the high places in a building without ever reaching out to the lost in the world. Blind leading the blind, with all due respect and honor to all God appointed ones that are living a sacrificial life, now addressing the religious ways that reached full circle from the time Jesus walked the earth the first time to the time he will walk again the second time, to finally revolutionize God consciousness in a productive way that will establish the brotherhood of man and Fatherhood of God - likely out of need for survival - as he first taught his followers who in fact lived it out for a generation or two. Afterwards serving one another has been gradually and grossly been neglected by church leaders to protect status quo, and the church literally plunged into the darkness of reorienting self to dissect and apply principles of worldly living from the bible revelation, that resulted in a constitution of the church life fitting the hideous world system in hypocritical ways of unseen proportions.

Of course, there is great awakening within that organization too, which is the sure precursor of the coming polarization between moving into the light of the day or choosing to freeze in the darkness of stubborn unconscious rebellion. Now that I threw such a big curveball from the subject of the future of the Urantia Book I need to stop here, but this might serve as an opening statement of some of our future ministries, addressing the institutionalized church that just got split out of the belly of the wail. To God be all the glory I do not know just waiting for my assignment, but this issue is in my belly too ever since I gave my life and heart to our Lord and God, and immediately discerned that the fish was stinking from the head that collectively managed to choke the word in me until finally I separated out and waiting for the Missions to begin as we all do. We are not going to swing the Urantia book over our heads as a banner of Truth (now decimated by the supreme) but thankfully will proclaim it uncensored and unrestricted by the Spirit of God within, the living word of God that we so richly receive day to day in preparation. We just must make sure not to get offended by anything we hear as so many seem to have turned aside already, no matter how much it is against our religious believes that were deeply rooted in the past era. As Michael of Nebadon addressed in a Lightline a week ago (Tue. 04.23.24) our roots need to be uprooted and replanted. That means we either let God tell us what truth is afresh or be at danger of parting with the church that is yet ill equipped to receive new revelations, but turning up the fire will mostly melt away their resistance. Do not go into the fire to embrace truth! 

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Lightline USA - April 30, 2024

« on: May 01, 2024, 09:11:02 am »

I tried to log in several times and was unable to. I was told even at 6:04 that the host has not arrived yet. After that it cut off the line each time after one ring. so, this is no doubt the work of the cabal as it happened the second time for no known reason. Today my phone is dead even if I paid the monthly bill in full ten days ago. I will go to the local office as 611 is dead also, but this is an example of broken communication not knowing how to overcome. If the reason and solution are worthy for public comment, I will let you know. Cheers   

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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: April 30, 2024, 07:20:08 am »

• 042824 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise, other transmitter: Ron Besser
• Subjects: before the Missions could become visible, the cabal and humans must be cleared off that destroy the planet and its people; personality is unique to every living being throughout the universe, it cannot be changed and its eternal; imagine unity and goodness of all personalities on earth; this Mission for Urantia is very different from any other planetary mission; the people of Urantia do not know God even if think they do; Universal Father addresses the leaders and wealthy of Urantia who cause suffering to people and incurable diseases, gas flaring; God gives comfort and strength to those who seek him by their Adjusters; Ron bought boxes of Urantia books, it will be rare in few months; Elise is working out an exciting project as Ron asked her to; Lightlines will continue in a different way, there will be Thursday LL also starting tis week
• Speakers: Arthura; Machiventa Melchizedek, Michael of Nebadon, the Universal Father, Thought Adjuster of Elise, and through Ron Besser Machiventa Melchizedek and Michael of Nebadon    
• Transcriber: sonsofGod
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240429_110026

Elise
Good day and good evening, everyone, and welcome to the Lightline Netherlands International for Monday, April 29, 2024. I am Elise Sophia Veronica, your host, and I would like to thank you all for attending. We have at least 12 callers altogether. Well, we would like to send a little prayer to our Father, to thank him, well, first of all for the gift of life and for this opportunity to gather in his name, We ask you Father, for your blessing, and for clear understanding of the words that we may receive for all here today, and for those who will listen to these words at a later time. Thank you Father. Let's continue and see if we have any speakers for today. Is anyone available?

Arthura
Yes, Elise. This is Arthura. I see you're taking responsibility, and trying to concentrate on what we have to say. Shift your attention to me and follow this, please. For even in these times, when there seems to be little or no communication, we are here. But there is no point in giving you details now of what the near future will bring. You all have a good and reasonable understanding of the situation and there is no need to explain more than you already know.

The Father will not allow any visible spiritual work to be done on this planet until the situation with any cabal is under control and is taken away from anything related to a Mission, or other planned, or even hoped for events on Urantia. Of course, your Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon, has no limitations in what he sees fit to do in his universe. And he is a Master Sovereign Creator Son forever. But Michael has no intention of carrying out what is intended for Urantia until both the planet and the universe are freed from continued actions of rebels who believe they are in control and continue to demand control of a spiritual department, just as your leaders are trying to do over your world’s departments. Wrong decisions are being made by both of them through unwise, selfish actions, and both parties should in fact be excluded from any participation in this Salvington or Urantia governments for years to come.

I am Arthura. This question needs to be set up and has been discussed for some time. But that the obstinate rebels or your unwise leaders will never come to their senses and are destined to leave. Many of the spirit rebels refused to acknowledge what has happened with the destruction by their superiors, but they will be excluded and transferred to a place where they have no means or power to oppose what Michael of Nebadon decides to do for his universe. just as your leaders should leave because they do not seem to understand how to govern a nation but prefer to produce war materials and destroy the world. And in fact, both sides are fighting a lost cause. They are all slow to understand that great-great changes have taken place and still need to take place. They must be replaced by others who understand good order and use common sense to respect men, nature, and most of all God. All those who have misbehaved must be reeducated and taught what needs to be done in collaboration with spirit for these worlds, for the universe, which is trying to adapt to a completely New Universe Age through mostly difficult, and sometimes painful decisions that are so necessary for law and order in a universe, where rabbles still demonstrate their lack of understanding, and some even deny the Father. And where humans have no understanding at all and do not want to know the Universal Father, the Source and Center of all. This is what I like you To Know today. This is Arthura at your service.

Elise
Thank you, Arthura, thank you for you words. (few words here got lost by bad sound quality)

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa Melchizedek.

Elise
Welcome, Machiventa, welcome to the Lightline. Please speak when you're ready.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Yes, thank you, thank you Elise, and I welcome all who are here together. We are really small group and we are all very different personalities. We are all working for Father, for Michael of Nebadon. You on your world, you in your group, in what you can contribute in your own circumstances and to what you may be able to give your time and attention to.

Imagine, imagine people what could happen if many in the world would follow the same course, and help the world and each other grow in reaching a state of understanding in social contact and cooperation, where everyone could contribute his own potential to the whole. We support this growth evolution of your planet and its inhabitants in all different aspects of life.

I am Machiventa Melchizedek. We are of the order of Melchizedeks as you know, and we are doing just that, what I just mentioned. In addition, we are gifted with the inherited super quality, and traits of our parents, Michael of Nebadon, the Mother Spirit, and the Father Melchizedek, plus our long and extensive experience that every Melchizedek gets in the local universe of Nebadon and even beyond.

We, Melchizedeks, are all different in personality, just like you. Our pursuit of unity lies in the perfection of what we seek to do, as we serve Michael in the perfection of his universe. And through our long experiences, we know how to approach people on different planets in their own culture and development, to bring their nations and planets together in a unity, in which all those different personalities can develop and participate and contribute, every individual with its own specific personality. Personality, as you know is bestowed upon each individual and is present in the unborn child, when it is still in the primitive stages of development.

The Father Himself gifts personality and every individual is different. No two individuals in all of creation are alike. Personality of the individual is unique, and as the word implies, defines you as a person. That is who you are, and how you determine your life and how you are perceived by others. Personality is unique and distinguishes you from other humans and does not change over the course of your life here on earth, nor in your future career throughout the universe.

Personality shows who you are. In and through your personality you are being recognized as a unique being among many, many others. Man is born with personality as that unique person and your life will largely be determined by what you are and how you express your personality to the outside world. And yes, it is true, especially for the young adult, that it can sometimes be difficult to let their own personality, their uniqueness prevail when group pressure is heavy, and they are under the influence of others. It will result that personality can temporarily be overshadowed by strongly deviating ideas or ideals, but the personality will always win out over external pressure. Because personality cannot be influenced, does not change, and cannot be expressed by anyone, other than that specific person.

Men grows in development and invoked in personality, which makes it seem as a possibility to develop a strong character. However, character is partly determined by the environment in which the child grows up by its parents and by other educators, and social circumstances that a growing child has to deal with. Character can be developed, but the personality remains the same. You remain who you are forever. Growth and development work alongside personality.

And also a person may express its personality more than another person. Maybe due to hereditary pre dispositions or cultivated qualities, but this does not change the personality. It nearly exhibits different behavior depending on the opportunities and circumstances that are presented, but it add nothing to personality. A strongly developed character is nothing more than a less strong character. They can express themselves in just as many ways and continue to do so, in a society where all these different personalities manifest themselves in their own personal way.

Personality is often confused with quality or talent, but these things are separate from personality with which the human is only endowed by the Father, the Universal Father, and which will remain distinct for every individual as the soul develops, with the help of the Adjuster who promotes growth and prepares the individual for the eternal adventure with the Father on Paradise. I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and these are my words for all of you today. I wish you all a very good day.

Elise
Well, this is Elise. Thank you very, very much. Machiventa. Thank you for your words.

Michael of Nebadon
Here is Michael of Nebadon, your Father Michael. Hello, everyone. I would like to connect with all of you for a moment today. I would love to be very specific, but we cannot be very specific. The Missions are going and you have been informed. Announcements will be made, but maybe not in a way you are expecting, because it could endanger our intentions just then and there. When people get frightened and don't know what is exactly happening, on your planet that is very hard to prepare for a Mission, and even harder to prepare its people.

I am Michael of Nebadon, and we have to be very careful not to create chaos across the planet, so that our precautions go up in the heat of the fire. Everything must be handled to make people understand in some way that God can come to earth, that heavenly power can be brought to a planet, that you are ruled by a friendly universe, despite the fact that the planet chooses war and destruction over peace and friendship, over creating one nation under God with indeed liberty and justice for all.

I know, as Michael of Nebadon, that on a normal planet we never announce our intentions for the arrival of a Magisterial Son for a Mission. But when it comes to Urantia, it is so much more than a normal adjudication and saving of the sleeping souls. It is a Mission associated with great changes, with in this case, scientific inventions with a spiritual department of technologies, with the return of Jesus, and worst of all a world in a terrible state. But men will eventually be faced with a nation that may introduce you to spirit and even spirit personnel.

This Mission for Urantia is very different from any other planetary mission. And the fact that Jesus has announced his Second Return has complicated the matter, plus, of course, the fact of a constant returning of cabal, and the incredible situation on your world. But the creation of a Magisterial Foundation has ultimately helped us to choose human participation for quite some time. But you also know that it still causes many problems and is considered a major risk by some of our high advisors. Life in spirit is so different from what you know about life on your planet, and the question, the difficult question is, how to overcome all these differences and still work together. Especially when the situation is so dangerous with no prospect of improvement at this moment.

Well, you can imagine our reluctance in all these, and the decision to keep it under one umbrella and first see how people will react when they might hear about a presence of an unknown staff of personnel from a universe quite unfamiliar to them. It is a pity to say, but your scientific knowledge of the universe is just about zero. And has only recently begun to make people aware of what lies beyond your world. So immense, and so unknown to men that it will take centuries to catch up, and for people to make them conscious of their position and task in a universe, that size.

Nevertheless, you should not lose hope. Progression will come. Every planet has to go through its evolution. And Urantia, as you all know, is a very special planet, which you are familiar with in many ways. But there are still many things you have never heard of. I am Michael. I am the Sovereign of the Universe of Nebadon. But I'm also your Father Michael. Be assured that all and everything will be made known to men throughout history. And all your citizens will come to know the truth and the path this planet must follow to reach the days of Life and Light and take its rightful place among all other civilized planets.

This is Father Michael. Michael of Nebadon. I take my leave, and I hope you have a joyful day.

Elise
Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Father Michael.
Well, let me take a look at the dashboard and see that's how many we are. At the moment we have 15 on the dashboard, and we welcome Steven Gitz, and Roger Raz, and Roger Copra. And I am not sure if I had welcome number 4098, but you're welcome. And it's good to have 15 on the screen altogether, thank you so much for joining. I'm going to see if we are receiving any more words, so, give me a minute.

Universal Father
My dear children, this is your Universal Father speaking. You are all concerned about many things on your world and that's not without reason. One of the concerns of this transmitter was about gas flaring. And yes, indeed, this is one of the worst things that humanity does to itself without regard or concern for their fellow human beings who then have to live in an environment that is highly toxic and produces all kinds of diseases, which cannot be cured. Because no money has been set aside by any government to take care of these people in such areas, but of course, that toxic benzene and soot will not stay in one place. It will work its way around the world leaving behind death and disease that you have no knowledge of, and certainly no cure for.

We wonder why you should poison your people in the first place. Do all these dollars make life better? What do you gain by causing misery elsewhere and making life uncomfortable for others. Are you thinking of Me once in a while? Are you thinking on Me, your Father, who gave you your existence? I gave you your existence to be with your fellowmen to care for each other. People think they know me, but they do not. They only honor God out of fear of what might await them after death. But I am not that God, I am your Father. And most individuals in the world have no idea who I am or what I am. Well, I am the source of your existence. I am the keeper of your soul. I have given everything to the people on this planet to learn about me. I am not hidden from you for I live in you, and all you have to do is find me, so that you can become like me. But that seems difficult to believe. And men have turned that truth into an often horrible image of me. A God who would punish his children for what they do not know.

I am your Father, and I know that men will learn. They will learn that they must work, that they need to go through their trials to find me, but also to love one another. I am within every human, and all attributes are present to enhance your human existence and to grow your soul, which is so richly taken care of by me, your Father.

How you solve your problems you create is up to you. The people in this world, today seem to know it all. But you have seen how they fall into their own trap. Let us wait and see how they will come to me and beg for help when the earth can no longer cope. And I will be there, but not before man realizes that they are guilty of producing what is now for all to see, a world full of danger and disease, and that needs to change. And humanity's main concern should be to heal this world and make it a healthy and happy place to live. I am your Universal Father. I love you all. I love all my children and I care. But no one will step in until humanity has learned what not yet has been learned. To know me, and love your brothers and sisters, to be good to one another.

This is your Universal Father. I love you. I love you all, and I wish you a good day. For comfort and strength are always given to those turned to me.

Elise
Thank you, Father, thank you.

Thought Adjuster of Elise
Yes, Elise. Comfort and strength are always given to those who turn to me. Yes, this is your Adjuster who knows the circumstances of life and understands where the need of his protege lies, and how far we, as Adjusters can provide for them. The Adjuster is closest to God, the Spirit of the Father who dwell in you, and assures you of eternal existence with him as you seek that union by doing good and honoring the will of the Father. Protection and this promise the Father give to all his children will go through their life and will be with him in his glory on Paradise. From where the Father sends each of them on a mission in his name, to perfect his universe according to the plan of God, the Father Himself. And thus, all his children become co-creators and protectors of an infinite universe, in which change, and growth occur, and in which the Father has the opportunity to reveal and share his universe with all who came into existence from him.

God the Father has set an infinite purpose for himself, and he will carry it out in detail in the endless future. He has called his children to live according to His will and laws, so that they can live with Him forever, and work in a creation beyond anyone's imagination. God's attributes are divine and the Father desires to pass on his divine attributes to his children, who are willing to follow him as Father, as Creator, and to be as brothers and sisters in the great family of God These are powerful words for a human being on this planet, but know and remember that they are given by the Adjuster, a direct fragment of God whom you acknowledge as your Father God. This is the Adjuster. The truth has been spoken Thank you for listening. Go in peace.

Elise
Thank you, Adjuster, thank you so much.
Well, this is Elise. I am trying to see if there is anything else, but I I feel his words as a … as some last words being spoken, but … let me see.

Okay, let me just say hello to Charlotte. Welcome, Charlotte. I see Jose there also. Well, I don't think there is more for me. I never want to skip you, Ron, since you’re here. So, I'm going to unmute you Ron, and well, I hope you can have something more for us. I unmuted you Ron, I hope I do not disturb you in anything.

Ron Besser
(ha-ha) Just my sleep. (ha-ha)

Elise
That’s what I thought.

Ron Besser
No, I am just fine. I enjoyed your lecture today, Elise, it was excellent. In fact, it was so good. I don't want to add a lot to it.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. Ron has been working on unknown to all of you, an opening for some of you to participate directly into the Missions that are about to happen. I am not going to lecture you on the program that he has put together so that you can begin to operate in real time with the Missions. I'm going to let that develop a little bit later this week. What I do want to tell you though, is that Elise is putting together a cost estimate of what it is to open a small shop in a street on your area of life to represent us directly as a Magisterial Mission name. I will have a lot more to say in the coming week. But in the meantime, Elise is working on the expense end of something like that, and of course, we are all looking forward to what Elise may have to tell us.

And for the rest of you, this is Machiventa Melchizedek. Ron has been having trouble keeping well enough to do all this. The order came down yesterday that he had a lot of work up here and that he was to finish down there. But Michael of Nebadon has discovered that he is not interested in going over for some time.

And for you, Dominick, there's a load of books that arrived today that need replaced, I think into the same place we have the other books. And now this.

Michael of Nebadon
I am Michael of Nebadon. I have this to tell you. Ron has sitting on his floor right now. Seven cartons of Urantia book. They are to go into the garage with the other books. And for that reason, must be carefully tarped, because they are much more delicate than the books that you have in the garage now. He just spent a little under $700 to buy a small group of the Urantia books, so that they are saleable when the time comes, when Urantia is too much of a mess to remember them at all. For that reason, Ron, thank you. For another reason, keep them well. They will become quite rare in about five to eight months. I don't have a reason to tell you.

And fully to you Dominick. When you get over here today, put those books away immediately on top of the present books that you've gone in the garage. They will keep much better that way than putting them on the concrete floor.

And now this I am Michael of Nebadon, and to you Elise, congratulations. You have been working with Ron, what Ron asked you to do, and that is to cost out what it would cost for you to have a small shop, in which you can provide the information that is coming. When Ron hears the costs and it is satisfactory to him, he will provide you with what to do. We are excited by this, and I think it should be something that Gitz and George should try it. It'll be a lot of fun. We'll talk about it later.

And now this to the rest of you. We are going to close this down, oh, about five minutes early. Do not be concerned about it, Elise. We want you to close it down when Ron is done here. But the fact of the matter is, this day ends the usual way of doing things. I hope you enjoyed it, Elise. Tomorrow is Dominick, Wednesday is Lemuel if he lives. And Ron, we're going to put you on Thursday, as well as Sunday. So there is a Lightline Thursday, and thank you everybody for listening, and understanding, and looking forward to what we have to say shortly. I am Michael of Nebadon. Good day.

Ron Besser
Now this is Ron. Elise, I'm turning it back over you, over to you to finish the Lightline. And thank you for the chance to speak. Go ahead, Elise.

Elise
Yes, thank you, Ron. Well, thank you, and thank you, Michael, for your words and Machiventa Melchizedek. And, of course, I want to thank the other speakers we had here today. Oh, let me get this right now. We had the Universal Father, and the Adjuster and Arthura. Yes, I think I've mentioned them all. Well, I want to of course thank the audience for participating, for attending. And with that, I'm going to shut off the recording. Have a good afternoon and enjoy the rest of the day. I hope you have good weather and a lot of sunshine. Until next time.

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Wednesday Lightline USA

« on: April 24, 2024, 15:47:20 pm »

I logged in through the phone 2-3 minutes to 2 PM and the recording repeatedly said the hots has not logged in yet. I believed it and hanged up after 5 minutes. Sorry for missing out but heard the recording.
sonsofGod

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Tues LL 04.23.24 Michael Speech. Arthura Presentation

« on: April 24, 2024, 10:03:35 am »

1. 042324 Audio Tape Tuesday Light Line USA; host: Dominick O.
2. Subjects:
· Machiventa opened & closed w/prayer and some insight comparing groups he worked with in the past compared to today.
· MICHAEL of Nebadon gave speech about brotherhood in modern times and ahead
· Arthura presented and re-presented on State and Governance. And a lot of topics pertaining to modern times and current events.
· Cooperation between Spirit/human, human/human, and divine/human.
4. Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Arthura, Machiventa Melchizedek
5. Transcribed by: sonsofGod
Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240423_110224


Dominick
All right, it's Tuesday Lightline, welcome, April 23. We start with a quick prayer and of course, we pray to Father, we pray with Michael, and as humans’ will we pray that our planet can do better, our lives can do better, that we can help each other, and that we can not only discern but go with the ups and downs of life and certainly understanding spirit, and everything you have to give to us and say to us. And the obvious that we wish to know the truth behind this type of communication, that we are happy and privileged to provide with you and accept called transmission, as we work out the truth and the way forward about what's happened and where we're going. Amen.
Is there anyone who wishes to speak on this Lightline today? We welcome you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa. I'm here with Michael of Nebadon and Arthura. They will speak, they will have their turn. I greet the group first, and I wish you all a good day. Here's Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
Good day everyone on Urantia, on this Lightline, and my universe. What is good for one planet is good for all. But when it comes to Missions, those are designed for specific planets or a group of planets. Just as what is good for all individuals such as the Father indwelling you, does not mean there is a specific prescription of your life that is the same for everyone. However, there is a commonality, the shared growth and opportunity that soul enrichment provides. The material life offers a lot of struggles to grow this. The plants and the trees all blow in the wind. Their limbs break, their stock band, but your roots are what keep you in place. And I would like to add that faith is much like the root of your soul. And that sometimes your roots, and this is the most difficult thing for humans too, your roots must be uplifted, and like the journey of the tumbleweed or the organism blowing in the wind, and going downstream to take up roots elsewhere, such as the journey of the soul. And your faith is bolstered by the personal relationship with me, in the way to the Father. We work as one, and we work in multiple ways. There are multiplicity of personalities throughout the universe. And so must you struggle to work amongst yourselves. I want it to be known, there is a increase in the desire to see Missions. And I caution you and I implore you, you must work amongst yourselves, regardless of how these Missions take place. It is not the time to wish for the strong man and the strong arm. That really gets you nowhere. And as Jesus cautioned, those who would pick up the sword to put them down, so must I caution you that you must renew your vows to your fellow men, that you are left with each other. And that too much wishful thinking in the intervention of spirit can be no different than the wish for an authoritarian leader on your planet to order the disorderly, the chaotic destruction of the structures of civilization and society around you. You have the tools within you, and you must allow me to organize you with my spirit in might. As you organize in the coming days include me and the Father with you always, and you will do just fine.

This command, are you your brother's keeper that you simply desire and wish to be in our spirit and have us with you. That is how you keep your brother and your sister that you bring us in. You don't beat them over the head with the fact of our existence, but that you strive for the best in each other and meeting them where they are, and not where they ought to be. And that you are there to serve them in the opportunity of the kingdom and salvation. That is the purpose of your life in the ascension, spiritual ascension that I ministered to and I rule, that I created and did this for the Father, so that I could express our Father in this area of the universe, and that your way to the Father is through me. But I designed this, so that you would do this amongst yourselves not entirely, but that there is a symbiosis of what occurs and evolved between the divine amongst you, and the imperfect humans you are, and the Father's decree to know him and be like him in perfection.

If you have no planet, none of this will be able to happen. And so, we strike the balance constantly these days, and rectifying a spiritual warfare rebellion of long ago that affects us all today, especially here on Urantia. As war mounts and fulfills the prophecy of preparation that you all do, we on Salvington, the headquarters of my rule and central government of this universe I have just described, are waiting and wondering what to do. Or rather that all the progress you feel you have made over the last say 40, almost 40 years now, since the adjudication in the courts of Gabriel versus Lucifer, all that progress gets a reality check when war appears.

When war appears all the injuries of the past become the present, and that all the progress you feel you have made evaporates with the excuse of national injury, that places you back into the peak of rebellion here on this planet, which is the 20th century. I cannot be the strong man without a showing on this planet that there is a strong enough base of souls, who can affect the change we need to establish a Mission. For further effect I cease this speech and may continue again, but that is the news I wish to bring to this Lightline in my universe today. And I put you back in the hands of Arthura.

Dominick
Thank you, Michael. Arthura!

Arthura
Thank you, Michael. I am Arthura, and thank you, Machiventa. I'm here as Arthura at the behest of Michael of Nebadon. I have given many discourses over the last year on such matters as Michael just discussed, and I'm going to do the same today.

We discussed the lesson of the past, I'll say a month ago, of what is needed today to evolve as Michael said, into the 21st and 22nd centuries. To have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is something that evolved during the period of the Lucifer rebellion, and life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is an evolution from the foundations of life, liberty, and the pursuit of property on the quasi democratic call of equality, equity and fraternity. And we ask, where are you going with social justice, diversity, equity and inclusion, and their reactionary forces such as those of what you would call the right and the left, in the middle, and so on, because these are nothing new per se.

250,000 years ago, you had such a manifesto of unbridled liberty. We are trying from our side when we discuss things like Salvington to bring this all back home, in a way this is what we are trying to correct. So, when we look at these things like I just mentioned, like a hot button, say social justice, this is a hot button in one of the countries that seems like an obvious candidate to host a Mission and be capable of spreading the goodness of such a Mission to other places on the planet. Also capable of prospering and benefiting with the eventual evolution that the entire planet enjoys the fruits of a Mission.

Well, I presented that the next evolution is life, opportunity, and the pursuit of soul growth. These of course have the core values of life, they do include some sense of equality and equity, and our three ethics that include and do not exclude, and in fact are tacit supporters of course of diversity. Life is full of diversity, equity is really a call for opportunity, and it is very dangerous to be weaponized in the apparatus of the state, instead of the principles of governing documents and philosophies.

The pursuit of soul growth is inclusive for everyone. This pursuit of soul growth is the fact that all men are created equal. You are not created equal in inherent divinity and immortality as Lucifer manifesto acclaimed, rather you are all equally created in your pursuit of soul growth. At that point there is complete inequality, in that there is diversity of how that soul growth progresses in each of you. It starts with the diversity and not the equality of your birth circumstances. So understand, there is a discordant logic to diversity, equity, and inclusion, and the fruits of that logic rooted in a philosophy that is not evil, but it demands that there are frameworks of oppressors. And that these oppressors are upholders of oppressive systems and that those systems must be destroyed. And so this type of approach to governance is something of an anathema does not foster growth in the first place, rather a chaos.

Let's go back to governance, because governance is state and law. When the state first appeared it was a city state, that evolved to nation states. And nations don't necessarily have states. Nations have a conglomeration of tribal identities unified as a nation. And now we have something to call multinational states. And so, the state with its laws is asked to govern through the courts, the legislator and the executive, the laws of individuals, families, and now corporations, multinational corporations. And the tyranny of the state personified of the political science or the Leviathan versus the philosophy of the social contract, is now literally wrapped up in the multinational corporations. Literally your social contract is evermore entwined with the public private sector governance of social contract, and what this does is create an emphasis on the last bastion of governance for the individual with a soul, and that is the courts. The courts in the United States still work better than almost any other place in the world, but none of it is perfect. There is plenty of blame to go around in history and current affairs, but when it comes to the law and the use of corruption versus say justice, justice is still possible at the state and local level in the United States, but the federal level it's a crapshoot.

Dominick
This is Dominick. I'm listening to reconnect there's no …
Loss of the connection for those listening. Atrhura, do you wish to continue?

Arthura
Yes, look at what is from the board and let me connect better on the transmission.

Other subjects that are related to this, we discussed the individual, the family, and the multinational corporation, and tied between these are things such as gender and race relations, certainly. These things are divisive issues in the world often. It has gotten to the point where even those who disagree on the same side, those who could be unified have disagreements that allow, or disallow rather, in form of noncooperation. This is a recipe for devolution, backwards progress. There should be a baseline agreement that you wish to cooperate at all, and then go from there. Your Congress in the United States needs this, for example. There needs to be a constitutional convention reiterating that parties and factions are in government and agree that they cooperate for the good of the nation and the state.

What Michael said was, do not look for Salvington to do this for you. How are you going to insert yourself in the call that the fifth epochal revelation provided to go forth and espouse new meanings and values? How much value is that if you repurpose the revelation with new pronounce, versus say, what guidance I am trying to give you? Not this transmitter. The transmitter has the vocabulary, the mental experience to provide the words to you in sentences, but I, Arthura, on behalf of Michael am asking you what are you going to do to cooperate and organize to aid discuss amongst yourselves and formulate questions that provide life and progress to this guidance, we are giving you of life, opportunity, and pursuit of soul growth? Why should that take a backseat to identity politics?

Why should you get wrapped up in that identity politics and conveniently dismiss transmission and Lightline, and the supplemental governance and guidance that you wish would be part of revelation, and the church, and personal ministry. We don't dissuade you from that desire, but you must do better to organize amongst yourselves to be willing to go forth in the world with these new values and meanings. And at that point does Michael wish you to be your brother's keeper, so that there are none of these pitfalls that will constantly pull at you because the road is difficult. But the road is difficult no matter which road you choose as you see, and all the choices before you.

To bring it back, we have the example of your forefathers and mothers, your brothers and sisters, that you cannot be simply passively waiting for the divine sort of deity to make you all behave. You have to do that heavy lifting yourself sometimes that you can start by giving life to these ideas that come forth. This is not a form of entertainment anymore. Never was, never will be, but that you should have your hearts and minds stirred to the point that you take action. Now, that can be very simple in that you strive to know better. Not just that, but if you hear a transmission ask, not challenge the transmitter, but ask the question, how am I to bring this to life, you say Arthura, and I will use transmission to answer that. And like prayer, that question does get routed and networked to the appropriate places that they can be addressed, and fallow through in that the divine administrations and administrators can begin to work with you. So, this is not answering your heart's desires to be part of a Mission, we know that. But now you must strive to make each other better to air your differences better. That's all we have to say about that for now.

And lastly, as part of that, shift your attitudes that if you've listened for so long you either begin to follow what I have just prescribed and what Michael was prescribing, or you could go into the realms of meanings and values amongst your fellow men and seek the will and business of the Father without being in the Missions. It's okay. Understand though, that the Missions so to speak are here also to cooperate with you, if you do that. There is no either or, in or out, you are fluid to go in and out in the manner of cooperation that nothing associated with the Missions per se, in the form of these corporate foundations set up to serve them. Nothing is subsumed by their enjoyment in cooperating with them. We are here to offer whatever we can that we deem fruitful for you and as for us to share, and we hope that you have that same spirit likewise.

If you think we are crazy and mentally ill, it's okay to think that, but you should be willing to share your assessment and have that assessment be disagreed with, and possibly put aside, if you think there's some good to be done in the cooperation. At this point, in the world situation, if you wish to go into the mental maze and pitfalls of conspiracy, and whether or not this and that is the devil, and so on, then you need to … yes, take a timeout and not involve yourself, and possibly come back later when you have a breath of fresh air. There is probably more I could add, but I'm getting used to humans and I think I will stop there. This is Arthura. I thank you all I am here not forever in Nebadon. So I bid you a good day and ask you at the very least to begin to formulate questions of organization, meaning and values, and how you can offer that towards your fellow men and to the Father's business. Thank you.

Dominick
Thank you, Arthura. Back to you Machiventa?

Machiventa Melchizedek
Yes, you got me. I am here as Machiventa. We have the board to look at as we do in these Lightlines. The rollcall for this Lightline is 17, which includes the transmitter. And that’s 17 on the line, and usually includes more people in ones or twos here and there. So, it's a good number today. For those listening in the future of the recording, you too are quite welcome. Your questions can be formulated in the future at any time. And you're welcome to join in the few channels of communication at serara.forum.org, and you can hear these transcripts and audio recordings at Fatherslightline.com. That is the mundane business of facilitating your questions.

Michael sends his bidding but has no more to say today unless it's through any other transmitter. This is Machiventa. To the group, you have 10 minutes left. This would be an excellent time if you had a question, we will address it. You might even consider sharing any reaction that you had. This is often a form of a question unformulated and could help develop one. As Machiventa, I've served on the planet, I've organized people. I've sent them on exactly the kind of Missions that have just been alluded to by Arthura.

I find it hard to believe that no one has a comment. And this is because back in the stone age that I worked in, there was no group fear amongst my missionaries in training. Once they were gathered, they felt safe in the gathering, unified under my guidance. When Arthura spoke to with the fears and tribulations of the mind as they wrestle with the validity of Revelation, the validity of transmission, and the confusion amongst spirit contactable amidst the era of rebellion and the danger that it still poses today even in its outer workings. There is this conditioning of ghost fear no more, but rather the state of affairs has created a fear, not to mention the fact that those of you who have participated up till now have made many errors, and many people have suffered the consequences of each other's decisions and behaviors and outcomes, from all of us. There is no lack of candidates that have muddled the clarity of where we are going on spirit with this, and therefore it is open to all sorts of attitudes and certitudes by those in authority of the organization around spirits. And that could be anywhere from teachers to churches, to really the institutions of surrounding those churches, those religions.

So, I end this Lightline as Machiventa, and we pray to the Father that we find your will in everything we do, but that we pray that we are given to even looking before we act. And that it is not an afterthought, or an after effect, that we get in the habit of seeking your guidance within before we act without. And that we forgive those trespasses and pray that such trespasses don't leave a lingering effect in ourselves to be deposited in the soul, only to be harvested in the future of anticipated trespasses. Father, dissolve those real and perceived trespasses of our brothers and sisters, and renew us that we may work the Father's business and experience the love that we know truly exists, but it's so often hidden here on this planet we live and work on. Thank you. Amen.

Dominick
Okay, that ends this Lightline. Thank you, Machiventa. Thank you, Michael of Nebadon. Thank you, Arthura.

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53

NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: April 23, 2024, 15:56:46 pm »

1. 042224 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise, other transmitter: Ron Besser
2. Subjects: the endless mistakes humanity makes instead of following Jesus’ example; Thought Adjuster are always available to guide us through difficult times; teachers of love and tolerance, working for spirit is exceptionally complicated; Father’s considerable and meaningful message to us all; Jesus’ greeting and words of encouragement, sharing their decisions with us; the Missions will not go in regular fashion on Urantia, acknowledgments and thanksgiving
3. Speakers: Arthura;, Thought Adjuster of Elise, Machiventa Melchizedek, Esthea, Van, the Universal Father, Jesus, and Machiventa Melchizedek through Ron Besser
4. Transcriber: sonsofGod
5. Link To Tape: https://www.conferncecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240422_110118 

Elise
Hello, everyone. Good day and good evening. This is the Lightline Netherlands International for Monday, the 22^nd of April 2024. I am Elise Sophia Veronica, your host, and I welcome all for tuning in today. Let’s see if we can connect with spirit and hear their words. We have all together 11 callers participating, including those on the audio internet. Thank you for joining.

Well, first we always go to the Father, our Heavenly Father on Paradise, and to our Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon. We're grateful again for this opportunity to come together, and we thank you for your blessings, which we so generously receive even without being aware of it. We ask for clear reception and understanding of what will come to us in this Lightline. We thank you, Father, and we thank you, Father Michael. Now, let’s ask, is there anyone from the spirit side who is there to speak some words to us.

Arthura
This is Arthura. Good day to all.

Elise
Welcome, Arthura, thank you for coming.

Arthura
Thank you, Elise. Well, and to start out now, the good news is that all is still going well, which is what going on, we have the same date in mind, we are heading to the month of May, and see what that will do for us and how things will work out. And by that time, I'm sure we'll have some kind of presentation that we can do also for these Lightlines.

I am Arthura, and much have been written and said about the upcoming Missions, and I know of the works of the Father and of Michael of Nebadon, and all who are involved in this great undertaking of a Mission on your planet Urantia. Not the easiest planet, a planet that has caused and continues to cause much trouble. There is, well it seems there is a tendency on this planet that makes it difficult to learn from the mistakes that have been made, and that should actually move society forward after learning about your own mistakes. To move into a society of harmony with each other and with all of your nations. And we often think, what is it with you people? You get so much attention. God himself work your soul on the earth, and you, you fail to take care of this beautiful world.

You see disaster after disaster, war after war, poverty, misery. People on the run looking for safety. Epidemics raging around the world. And none of your governments is taking any action to change this horrible misery that continues to spread. And next your world is almost uninhabitable for your pollution, and your abundance of goods and luxuries for only a small part of humanity, we are sorry to say. So we ask where is the morality? Where is compassion? Where is the love that Jesus showed you when he lived on this earth?

Jesus was here who showed the people how to live in simplicity with your brothers and sisters. Jesus loved everyone. He loved his neighbors. He kept everyone in a place in his heart. He never judged anyone. He paid attention to every person he met. What a beautiful example. Everyone on your planet has read about the life of Jesus. What have you learned?

Well, God himself was on your planet. And he's ready to set foot for the second time. In the world, from which he had to depart so quickly. Is the world ready to receive him? Spirit is waiting and trying to find a method to save the world, to protect it from further misery. But we keep asking ourselves, where is the reception committee? That should be so joyfully welcome God to earth.

I am Arthura. Well, it's hard to tell, but I see that instead one prefers to fight and triumphantly celebrate the victory of slaughtering and harming an innocent population. We, in spirit would almost turn our heads to turn away from the scene of a horror and childish behavior that leaves so many citizens out in the cold, but we do not turn our heads. We look the pity of undeveloped actions of humanity. And God, in the meantime, has decided to put his feet on earth again. And once again, make an effort to teach humanity how to live in peace with one another. How to care for each other, how to share, how to love, and how to honor God.

Be prepared for what is to come. Be strong, be an example in days of change and trial. Pray and work, show your courage, so that we, and up here in spirit, see your goodwill to work for the planet and its inhabitants for a better future. A future of simplicity and love. Love for each other, with a place where everyone has the right to protection by and for each other. This is Arthura at your service.

Elise
Thank you, Arthura, thank you very much.

Thought Adjuster of Elise
Hello to all. This is the Adjuster of Elise to help you cope, and to strengthen your faith, for we are aware that you all have difficulties in understanding with full meaning of what is going to take place. What is going to take place is a Mission, given to Urantia by the Universal Father and your Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon. The Mission will appear, but mostly hidden from the public. And done in spirit partly by Monjoronson and Serara, your Magisterial Sons of record. Serara and Monjoronson are both Paradise sons of God. They are from the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit. Close brothers to the Creator Sons, who are from the Father and the Eternal Son. Serara and Monjoronson are the Magisterial Sons. They are high magistrates for the realms, they are highly experienced for what they have to accomplish. And usually that has to do with the adjudication of destinations, which include the awakening of the sleeping survivors many times. But another Mission as this one is going to be reset for the planet in a low material form. Monjoronson and Serara will be on your planet incarnated. And their tasks and duties will not accomplish adjudication per se. On your planet, Monjoronson and Serara will be the main leaders in the Magisterial Foundation, and it is through theirs and Michael's mandate that all other orders will work in all kinds of capacities, except for Jesus. He has his own agenda. You'll probably hear or even see a Magisterial Son as the Missions unfold into a later stadium. We advise you to remain in contact with your Adjuster and try to find his guidance as much as you can during your daily choirs, and even in things that keep you busy on a normal day.

Because the contact that you and I may celebrate during the day are those intimate moments you share with me. Trying to give you directions so that you get a better picture of what to do or where to go. Life is not easy, and it will not be easy in the future as you are already informed of. The earth will follow her own evolution and will break under your feet. Many will get lost. They might be in a state of bewilderment not knowing what to do or where to go. But you, you will be a pillar of strength in the middle of all this. You will reach out to help where you can. But always under our guidance, always contact your Adjuster for the right thing to do at the right moment.

Then, you may have to find a way to decide what to do in such circumstances. You know how to reach out for your Adjusters. We are the forces that are always there. We’re able to adjust your min to, to be with the Father whom we are, and represent always in your mind and in your hearts. This is Elise’s Adjuster, speaking for all Adjusters present here today. Thank you. Thank you for listening. Have a good day.

Elise
Thank you, Adjuster. There is …

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa Melchizedek, Elise. There is a speaker here, waiting patiently to address this group. And I will give it back to you, Elise, to welcome your next speaker. So go ahead if you're ready.

Elise  
Thank you, Machiventa. Thank you.

Esthea
Good day everybody. I am a group teacher who has worked on many planets in the universe. You do not know me. I have never spoken to a human on Urantia before, but I would like to take this opportunity to speak to all of you. I have a name, but a name is not important for what I have to say today. Call me Esthea. E S T H E A. We are from Esthenea. We are Esthenians. We are the teachers of love and tolerance. And you could certainly use some reminders of what love does, particularly on a planet like Urantia. That is in a state of deep misery and doesn't know how to deal with the most simple rules of life. Of how to take care of oneself and others when the situation calls for it. Many of you on this world so used to getting up in the morning minding your own business, your daily concerns and joys of life, but where is your one thought of your Father in heaven who watched over you that night? Who has sent his angels to care for you, so that you can have a few hours of rest and peace, which are then cruelly broken again in the morning when you start the day, just as the previous one. We, the teachers of love and tolerance, would advise you to take a few minutes, and to try in the morning to stay in that nighttime peace. Try to find peace and tranquility in your mind to stay, to start the day in your ingratitude to Father, who gave you another day to experience, to care for your loved ones, and for those who need your attention and love.

Isn't it love that gives you the most satisfaction when you share it with someone else? You feel accepted and understood. You feel bonded and appreciated. Think about it and feel that love is all around you, if you know how to find it and share it with others. We know from experience that all your troubles and sorrows will cease when you know how to give love to someone, and more love will dwell up in your heart when you can be there for your brothers and sisters. That joy and satisfaction, that feeling will fill your heart with a deep, loving feeling. You'll begin to see the connection of life between you and the other person who is no different than you, even though he or she may be of different race, culture, religion, or may have a different opinion. Education or culture will not stand in your way if you try to reach and understand each other from the heart.

The problem is the world cannot heal without love. Love is in every person. Love must be applied in every action, in every confrontation, in setbacks, in mistakes and in every encounter with each other. Through love you get to know your neighbor. And then you make an effort to get to know each other, even your enemy, you will see that it's not difficult to love each other, when you are able to contribute by reinforcing the bond of love, which continues to grow, and which fights the selfishness and individualism of those who seek love only for themselves and leave others behind.

My words for you are, be aware of love. Know that you can love and that you can be loved. And that you can use your love to heal, to connect, to be tolerant, to build a partnership with everyone you meet. The world needs to learn what love is and how to use love in action, by applying your love to all and everything in your daily routines. Love is what holds your life together. Love makes your soul grow. Love strengthens your ever-present believe that there is more in the world than you're able to see or hear. Because love comes from the soul, from your deepest feelings, connected with a source of life, with God, your Father, who loves you beyond measure, and who will always see the love within every person.

I'm Esthea. We are a group of teachers. We thank you for listening to our words. We are the teachers. We love teaching about the power of love and what it means. Be aware of your love and feel your love that gives you the highest joy and is able to cleanse your environment from hatred and war, from misunderstanding and abuse. Now is the time for the people of Urantia to open up and allow love to flow freely over the world, of soil, of waters, its forests, and all life on your earth. My name is Esthea. I belong to a group that teaches love and tolerance. And I say goodbye and I wish you a day full of love.

Elise
Oh, thank you, Esthea. Thank you for coming to this Lightline. It's very nice to meet you and I hope you will be back.

Okay, this is Elise, let me see if we have any new people here? Well, we're up to 16 at the moment, and I welcome all who came in a little later. You're very welcome. And let's see if we can continue with more words from spirit, see if there's anyone else.

Van
Yes, hello, everyone, this is Van. You know me, and I know you. It's really nice to be here again.

Elise
Welcome, Van. Welcome to the Lightline and please, tell us what you have to tell us.

Van
Well, it is true, this is a small group, but a group with large promises and a lot of experience. You have had many trials to go through in the recent years, and that is not easy. But each of you has your own concerns, and each of you has worked in a different way, or has participated and prepared yourselves for the Missions.

The Missions are the main goal, and each of you is willing to dedicate yourselves to these Missions as soon as they become public and workable on this planet. But also at certain times your motivation could be almost lost, by changes and more changes.

But I'm Van, and I can tell you that working with spirit is something that cannot be achieved quickly. Jesus is the only example in the history of this planet where the great miracle of God became reality through the gift of that divine being, your Creator Son, when he experienced what life as a human is on the planet. You have all learned about this and you have probably gained a deeper meaning. But there is much more to the fact of his bestowal that you have ever heard spoken of.

The Bestowal of a Creator Son as a human on the planet is something that only the Universal Father can accomplish. It is a secret to every inhabitant of the entire universe, a secret of the Father that will likely last into eternity. Only Father can accomplish such mighty things. And he has done this countless times with many Creator Sons who had to complete their final bestowal, which has happened more than 750,000 times at least. This act, it does belong to the sublime actions of God. And it remains mysterious event. It is from the Father himself, and it is an event that takes place on Saverington, the planet for the Sons who guide the local universes that they have created according to their own understanding and control.

At certain time, an incarnation takes place in the order of a human being created by that Creator Son, the lowest order in his creation on a planet. It is the final bestowal of the Creator Son, which involves birth as a baby on an inhabited planet. Just as your Jesus was born as a little, helpless, babe to his parents, who were chosen to receive him and raise him. But also here, you'll see how circumstances gave history a different term. Jesus lost his earthly father at the age of 14. An age at which a boy desperately needs his father. However, Mary his mother took over Joseph's task the best as she could. But Jesus could have learned a lot from his father, regarding life's trials and daily complexities.

I am Van. I tell you this to remind you that life has its course. That working for spirit is exceptionally complicated. That we can control many things, but that we never know exactly what circumstances may arise in the short life of man on a planet, where he gains his experiences as a human being. I am Van, and I'm stepping back. I thank you Elise for picking me up. I wish you all a good day and hope to be back soon

Elise
Thank you, Van. Thank you very much. Ah, just give me a minute.

Universal Father
Here is your Universal Father, Elise. This is your Universal Father. I speak to all here, and to all who listen to my voice at any time.

I know you have all felt it. You have all felt the tension or even some confusion. And yes, times are uncertain and it's hard to give you the latest updates that will hold up, that will stand.

Ron is not feeling well. He is constantly plagued by the insurrection is and weakened by what he has to go through in this transition. He felt like he was completely at the end of his strength. But we will let him be and he will be given cure, so that he can somehow stay the course and ensure that the patent is used properly by those who deserve to be part of it. That he can see the power plant being built and working. That is what we have in mind for Ron. But the trial is not over yet. There is much happening without his knowledge that is of concern to Michael, your Creator Son. We do need your patience and trust to overcome the difficulties that we, the world, and the universe are faced with. It is a mixture of great concern for all parties involved when we look at the overall situation.

I'm your Universal Father, and you will know that I care for all of you. The universal forces are strong and well trained to handle every situation in a divine and fair manner. Do your work. Keep asking yourself how you can help with what is feasible for you, and don't forget to go into stillness and meet me there, and ask your Adjuster for clarification.

You'll have to deal with many uncertain situations. Adversity and wrong thinking can affect your discernment, but your Adjuster will always seek to enhance your insight and give you what is needed at the time. I give myself to all of you, and I know that you are all faithful to my call to seek and find me. Do not give up when your heart and soul yearn to do the Father's business. You are my beloved children. I am your Father, the Universal Father. Go in peace.

Elise
Thank you, Father. Thank you for your words. We're all happy when you speak to us.

Jesus
Yes, and this is Jesus, Elise. This is Jesus. I didn't mean to speak on this Lightline. Not because I wouldn't like to, but because of my duties elsewhere. But I do not want to let my faithful and attentive listeners to pass by without saying hello. I am Jesus. I am well aware of all what's going on in your minds. I feel your joy when we meet, and the feeling is mutual, my dear children. How difficult it is for all of you to have to deal with what has to be decided, and to get implemented by spirit, and its many different authorities spread out over the vast universes. We come and go, and let you be a part of our decisions. But you'll never fully understand our motivations or a need to decide for one option or the other. So I come to encourage you, and I want you to stay tuned. It will not take long before you’ll get some more information if we are allowed to do that. We know of your sincerity. We know of your trust, of your love for all of us. And we do appreciate your regular attendance to these Lightlines. I am Jesus, I love you, I send you my blessings, I send you my peace. Stay strong. Keep the course. Stay with each other. Stay with your Adjuster, with Father, with Michael, and we thank you for your care. We do care so much for this loyal group of listeners. May the Father bless you all. I wish you good day.

Elise
Thank you so much, Jesus.
Well, I don't think I have anything else, let me think. Let me go to another transmitter if there is one who would like to say anything. And we have, well, we have Ron here. I don't know if I can unmute you, Ron, but I am going to try you, Ron. I have unmuted you and maybe you can have something to say to us?

Ron Besser
All right.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. I welcome you all through Ron. Ron is half awake half asleep, because the mind that he uses is being updated. We seldom update minds went on a planet, but Ron will be containing much more time on Urantia, because he wants to finish what he started. And that is to help you, and to anyone else that would like to use the facilities to hear these Lightlines. We are not going to stay long, but we are going to say this.

I have, for about oh, let me try to calculate it, about 7 billion years I have known that Urantia existed, but only until recently has it been filled with people. But yet these people in spite of the Bestowal of Jesus has made a mockery of what a planet should be. We are not happy with United States, but multiply it times 10 times 10 with Saudi Arabia, and the Middle East in particular, and the Arabs which should know better, but they don't. For reasons of state therefore, we are going to say to Urantia, good luck in the future, because the Missions are not going to be held in a regular fashion.

Ron has established the Magisterial Foundation and six other corporations to handle it. We looked at it this morning and said, It is perfectly able to handle what we want to do on Urantia. I don't know what possessed Ron to do six corporations, but we can use every one of them. And we will for most of these Missions.

And now this to you, Elise. Ron said to himself as he listened today. “My goodness, you've improved. You have held almost the entire length of transmission today. And that is unusual for you, but you do it easily in these difficult times. Ron notices all of it.

And for the rest of you, the board, as well as the listeners. Ron is not dying. It just feels like it at the moment. In any case, I want you all to know that the Magisterial Foundation, this one, whom you're benefiting by at the moment, is ready not to close down, but to refute the cabal and build the electric plant. It is ready to build. We've got to have engineers, draw the plants, and then construct it. It will be constructed near York. we just don't know where just yet.

And finally this to all of you on the board. I thank you, this is Ron, for staying the course, and seeing to all that has to be done. It's hard work, I know it is, and I thank you. The people thank you. And now, Elise, I'm turning this back to you. And thank you for the opportunity to speak. Go ahead, please. Thank you.

Elise
Thank you, Ron. And thank you Machiventa Melchizedek. I also want to thank all the other speakers. First of all, Universal Father, and Jesus and Arthura. We had my Adjuster and we had Van, and we had a group of teachers, we listen to Esthea. We thank them all for their words. And I am thanking all of you, the listeners, and I'm going to my dashboard and I see that Dominick has his hand up. I have unmuted you Dominick.

Dominick
Thank you Elise.

Elise
Go ahead.

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54

NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: April 16, 2024, 12:11:05 pm »

• 041524 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise
• Subjects: Keep asking questions! Jesus will have a different approach towards a lasting, sustainable society together on Urantia. Must hear/read Christ Michael’s powerful authoritative words in full; Universal Father’s most meaningful message to all; Jesus’ words about the coming times and plans; closing words that lead to find truth and reach our highest potential in Father.
• Speakers: Mantutia Melchizedek, Christ Michael, Universal Father, Jesus, Thought Adjuster of Elise
• Transcriber: sonsofGod
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240415_110223

Elise
Hello everybody, this is Lightline Netherlands international for Monday, April 15. 2024. I am Elise, your host, and welcome all of you to this Lightline and I thank you for joining. We are at the moment with 12 on the call altogether, and we would like to thank our Father and all the celestials who work so hard to keep us informed during this very difficult time in deciding what to do with and for Urantia, where there seems to be little interest in what spirit has to say or bring to the planet, But we are curious and we ask Father, we ask you for a clear channel and a good reception of what may come to us today. Is there someone who can lead us through this Lightline and help us to hear your voice? We thank you, Father. We pray for your assistance.

Mantutia Melchizedek
Good day, this is Mantutia Melchizedek. I want to address this group gathered here today. There are of course many things on your minds and in your hearts that still need clarification. We also ask you to be clear and open, and to be honest in what you feel or think. And many times you have been given the opportunity to ask, so keep asking. There are so many things that become clear when you ask, so keep asking. For this will help you to find peace in the midst of confusion, when there is a need to stop, to allow those in charge of these matters to step back and reconsider what needs to be done to continue the work in a prudent way for all of us. 

I am Mantutia Melchizedek. I am your Planetary Prince. And you all know that the whole situation for a Mission on Urantia has always been very complicated. Besides that, we are constantly threatened and harassed by the insurrectionists, the cabal, as you prefer to call it, that has taken us the greatest effort to maintain communication to bring a Mission especially a Mission that has so many facets as, for instance, the new epochal revelation, and the return of Jesus. Urantia is a bestowal planet as you all know and that gives it a special status, and that is going against the ideas of the insurrectionists. They keep claiming their old places, and they do not want the planet to receive any advanced revelation or any care. So they continue to fight for their own cause, which they believe they can win. Which they believe they are entitled to. 

I am Mantutia. I know that unity and a sense of peace are required to qualify for a planned Mission. Your Jesus belongs to this planet, and he has promised to come back to finish what he did not have the chance to do when he had to end his life on this world. However, when he comes, he comes with a very different agenda, an agenda he couldn't ever have foreseen, because so much has happened that has affected what the planet is facing now. Jesus could not have imagined that total rebellion that has spread throughout the universe since the self destruction of the supreme. So the whole of Nebadon and the already vulnerable planets that had suffered from the rebellion of Lucifer and evil, which Jesus had to deal with in his life on Urantia here.

And furthermore, the Father has introduced the New Universe Age, which has resulted in many changes with existing orders disappearing, new orders appearing, and many other changes that will be ongoing for ages to come.

And the current situation on the planet is not very helpful to lay a solid foundation that Jesus needs for his intended purpose of improvement and importance for this planet. A planet with so much hatred and destruction in the hearts of people who are only concerned with self interest through destruction and corruption. Such a planet is not accessible to what Jesus has in mind for the people of Urantia. Jesus knows how difficult it is to return to Urantia among a population that has no faith in God and thus does not recognize God. And that causes chaos in all parts of the world. It prevents people from the peace deep down in everyone's heart that could lead them to a more human and God centered existence, in which they could meet each other as fellow citizens without enmity, living together as brothers and sisters, and work for one world. So the return of Jesus is always depending on people's behavior and Michael's decisions, and see how human loyalty can create a better society together, in which all people can feel safe and loved, where they come to realize that they need each other to create a peaceful and powerful society where everyone can find a place to contribute to the progress and development of the planet as a whole. 

Only then can the words of Jesus be accepted and allow the seed to germinate and grow into fruitful production for all nations, to bring about brotherhood among men. I am Mantutia Melchizedek, and I have been following this planet for a long, long time. I know what the planet and its inhabitants need to qualify for a time of light and life that we all look forward to for this battered planet Earth. The times of fighting a war must be ended, must be considered a thing of the past, and people should turn to each other to jointly overcome this condition of greed and power, and work towards a lasting, sustainable society. So people's own efforts towards unity, honesty, sincerity, to feel the need to serve each other and recognize God and His presence in every human being. 

As Mantutia Melchizedek as your Planetary Prince, I am the one who is responsible for much on your planet today. We wish to strive for what is so terribly necessary for this world, which is peace and brotherhood brought into existence hopefully with the help of all its people. I'm not going to tell you anything else. I am Mantutia Melchizedek, and I wish you all a good day. And I will give you to your next speaker waiting in line, I thank you. 

Elise
Well, this is Elise. Thank you, Mantutia Melchizedek. Thank you for your words. Let's see who is our next speaker.

Christ Michael
Good day to all. This is Christ Michael. I am Christ Michael, representing Michael and Jesus as one. When I speak as Christ Michael, I am Michael of Nebadon and Jesus of Nazareth as one person. 

I can tell you that Mantutia’s words are true and honest, and that the situation on your planet has caused constant problems on your world, not only in the hearts of the people but also in our hearts. where we fight until the end with patients and all our means, and are trying to save this planet from evil, and the unprecedented practices committed in governments, in your financial policies, in your trading of goods, and even in human trafficking in so many parts of the world. This unbridled behavior, which is thought to be freedom, is nearly an uneducated expression of the worst in humanity of bad behavior, and a daring display of freedom conquered by men for itself, and beyond any morality that a normal civilization would ever want to display.

I am Christ Michael. I tell you the consultations that have taken place between all spirit representatives dealing with the ordinary affairs of a planet have been so frequent as to almost make us sick, as you would put it, and yes, it is sickening. But, but, we are ready now to take matters into our own hands and work it all-way. We'd like to change the course to be able to meet the demands placed on each planet, and that is a dignified existence for every inhabitant with a future aimed at a life of trust in God, the Father, whom you should know. Who protects you when man on such a planet is unable to protect himself, and does not seem to be able to properly build a society that can serve a world population, and lead it to an existence for all, for all its inhabitants. A world that strives to enable all to pursue the truth, beauty and goodness of the Father, during the short time humans have to learn what it means to live on a planet

Many in the course of history have given you a good example. Ron Besser has been a leader in perseverance and in doing the will of the Father. And he has been helping to lead you in much of what you have learned. If you can convince yourself of the truth and knowledge of what can happen, and even seems strange, to have to do this God who is sometimes very accessible in the way he presents himself to his universe and to his children. I advise you to stay with God, with that fragment of the Father that dwells within you, and will lead you to the pure truth that you need to ascend to the Father on Paradise

As Christ Michael, I can tell you that Michael of Nebadon has been present on your world many times, even today. Up and down from his residence on Salvington, from his residence to Paradise, back to Uversa, back to Salvington, back to Urantia, up and down. In the meantime we watched the cares on the planet, and we are crushed by the fact that men cannot think of anything other than weaponry, and empowerment of themselves in a world condemned to destruction. But they will never succeed in converting it to their ideas of freedom in thought or action, if they cannot arise at the highest ideals of planetary life through their hearts guarding their minds. And this should come to bring unity among people in the form of joined work, and the pursuit of true happiness in finding each other in love and service to the other. Isn't that what Jesus showed you and emphasized on countless times when he addressed the crowd, and again and again when he explained his teaching to the apostles?

I was there. I was Michael. I was the God part him, in Jesus, the Son of Man. I was God in him and with him. We experienced life in the flesh, but now behold a humanity that has not changed and has not been able to find peace within itself. 

As Christ Michael I know that I will not concern myself with sermons or parables. We will do what we have to do, and we will go with the decrees and regulations that concern the entire world, and from which those who want to hear and understand will reap the benefits. Our ideals have not changed, but our methods have been. They have been adapted to take a step, and more steps that will be completely different from what has been known so far. It might require sacrifices. It requires a population that is accountable in order to achieve a result, in which the planet has the opportunity to rid itself of evil, and to strive for sustainable methods in all areas, which do not need to be mentioned, as this has been discussed many times in Lightlines and posts on the forum. 

As Christ Michael I ask you to pray and work for the purpose and a result which has been prepared by the spirit world, and which will be tried with utmost care and authority. I am Christ Michael and I thank you Elise for these transmissions. I agree with you all, and I will speak again soon. Good day 

Elise
Thank you, Christ Michael. Thank you. I have a look at my dashboard, and we still have 13 callers. Okay, let me see if there's anything else for today.

Universal Father  
My dear children, this is the Universal Father. I like to speak to you all. Do you not remember what was once said to you, that you are the ones who believe in me and in my Sons who are trying to help you in all your endeavors to reach me? 

I am your Father, I am your Universal Father, which means the Father of all who live in my universe and are specifically created to experience a lifetime on a planet that is created especially for them, with all the gifts that I can give you to develop your soul. That part of you that will become one with your indwelling spirit who is of me, and who is wholly capable to make you one with him and to continue your journey through the many beautiful places where you may learn about my creation, about the purpose and the elevation and deepening of your being, the status of human being into a full fledged spiritual being.

My role as your Heavenly Father is many fold. I have no role. I am it all. My versatility knows no bounds. And all I have designed is in order to reach you in countless ways, and for you to reach me. But you have seen that such a pattern can be broken if man does not adhere to my conditions, for adhering to a pattern, and that could harm him and cause him to turn away from me, and to walk in the wrong direction.

I, your Universal Father, has endowed each of you with freewill, as I require my children to freely seek and desire to know me, in order to participate in my creation, and to ascend through experience and service to the higher services that exist in my universe for all, who are willing to hear and see what I the Father, have made for them to become as I am in my kingdom. Which is intended for everyone to be. To be an eternal place of learning and discovery, of work and enjoyment of what has been created for each of my creatures directly or indirectly, to bring about divine life for every trained and experienced soul. 

I am the Universal Father and I belong to all. I belong to those who do not know me, I belong to those who seek me. I belong to those who longed to do my will. So, that you may all be happy and content in the knowledge that life has a purpose, and that the purpose is unity through the unification of everything and everyone, both big and small, present in all orders of beings, all spread out throughout the whole of the universes. 

I am the source of your existence and I have commissioned my Divine Sons science to rule in my stead over large portions of the universe and trusted to them, and where they apply the divine capabilities invested in them. I leave much of my work to those who prefer these special services for me. And I protect all from evil, caused by negligence of those who resist my guidance. 

I am familiar with every detail of creation. I oversee its management through the constant contact I maintain with the faithful representatives throughout the whole of the universe, some of whose orders you have come to know through the Urantia Book, which is now due to negligence no longer meeting the requirements of truth, but it will be replaced by new revelations that will be especially appreciated by those who serve God and have come to know him as their Heavenly Father. 

Remember, remember what Jesus said when he proclaimed, blessed are those who believe without seeing. Blessed are those who believe in the God of creation of the heavens, the suns, the planets, who enable man to know their Creator, and enter His dwelling place. I am the Universal Father and I speak these words to all who belong to my worlds that are made available to all who accept this as a gift from a Father to his children. Stay with me. Believe in me, I am your Father. I now step back to allow my words to resonate in the depths of your soul, to urge you to follow my ways, so that you may find me in my eternal abode on Paradise. This is your Universal Father, and I bid you good day. 

Elise 
Thank you, Father. Thank you for speaking to us. 
Well, this is Elise, just give me a moment to see if there is anything else.

Jesus 
Hello to all. This is Jesus. 

Elise 
Welcome Jesus. Please, go ahead. 

Jesus
Thank you, Elise. Yes, it's me, your friend, Jesus, your brother. And the one who knows you also well, and your intentions to keep the faith and hold on to your patience, and steadfastness to see the world change for the betterment of generations to come, and to follow in your footsteps as they learn to abide in me, and in our Father in Heaven.

My life on this earth was a long time ago, and much has happened since then. But I have never forgotten the people who believed in me and followed me and until the end of my life in the flesh. I have met so many people who were thirsty and hungry for the love of God but did not know how to find God within themselves. I have preached and taught many times about how to increase faith by asking God within, within yourself for help. But so many could not believe that such a truth was real as you can now, from what you have learned in the Urantia Book, and the lessons given in Lightlines, and so many messages on a discussion forum to bring this all together. A method of communication even if it is for a few in this busy world as you know it today, but we know that the call for support has been answered by you, and by others. And we want it to remain so, because it will be a very important means of communication for the coming period in which we have to announce what we have to do, and where we are going in this coming period. 

If you are listening to this Lightline and you have read the latest posts on the forum, you have seen that a big and rather unusual change is approaching. Decisions have been taken. We are not (now ?) in for a change. We are excited, but it remains always difficult to do the unexpected and the abnormal things to a planet that is beneath its development and could always cause trouble. We are very careful, but we know what we want to do. We are prepared, we have talked it over and over and we know what we want.

Michael of Nebadon has been in deep consultation with the Universal Father. They're going their own way to give Urantia the chance that so many women and men deserve for what they mean to their fellow man and to God. It may seem to be a small amount of believers, but all the more of us is taking the risk to do what we can to preserve this bestowal planet for Michael of Nebadon and the Universal Father, and all who will have a life on it.

Great decisions have been taken and you have been informed about our plans, about our intentions more or less. We have not talked about the content of what is going to happen for this planet, for its people to fight evil, to fight war, to fight for peace, to fight for an honest existence for all who are perishing at the moment. My heart goes out to those who are suffering. Children hungry, thirsty for a little bit to eat or drink. Can you believe it? At this time, in 2024? Children should be in school, children should be playing. Parents should be taking care of their children in a normal way. This has been made impossible on certain places on your earth. We have to step in, we have to do something and we will. You can be sure of that. 

I am Jesus. Pray with me. Pray for your planet. Pray for Michael of Nebadon. Pray for all celestial beings standing ready for Urantia. Pray for yourselves and stay the course. This is Jesus. I leave you in my peace. Good day.

Elise
Thank you so much Jesus.  
Let me see, just a minute. I think there's someone else to say some words. 

Thought Adjuster of Elise 
Yes, there is, Elise. This is your Adjuster to finish your Lightline for today. To give all of you some advice as you have heard before, but never too much, never too often.

I want to remind you to grow your soul to greater heights, depth and width, all you have to do is the Father's Will. That is not always easy. But the Father's Will is equivalent to doing that good, the beautiful, and the truth. You know what goodness is. You have an idea what beauty is. These are the things that are pure and beautiful. That are right, honest and trustworthy. But you do not always know what the truth is. And the truth can be told or passed on in many, many ways. Be aware that the real truth comes from within yourself. When you feel that feeling inside that something in that moment of insight cannot be other than clear and honest and pure, because it touches you deeply. It gives you immediately a sense of enlightenment, a sense of being lifted up, of expanding your mind, and of complete contentment with the fact that you know, and which you are then enhanced by through an additional knowledge or additional feelings coming to you from within. 

Truth, beauty and goodness. This is the reality of God. It is his being. And this is what God wants to give you through the many teachings and experiences to finally become like him. To be able to work with him in his universe. A universe that he, God, has brought into reality for all, to be able to unfold your innate creative abilities, for all that will please God. These are my words for all who will be listening today or later. I am leaving. I am your Adjuster, and I thank you for receiving me. I wish you a good day. 

Elise 
Thank you, Adjuster. Thank you so much. 
Now, let me see what time it is. Okay, we have a couple of minutes left and I'm looking at the dashboard. Well, I see only Jose, but I think he came in again. He had lost contact. 

So I want to close this Lightline unless there are any comments or questions, or other things that you would like to open this Lightline for, but just press five-star if you want to add anything to what has been said during this Lightline. And I see no hands up now. 

So, we are five minutes from the hour, but I am going to shut off this Lightline and leave us with the beautiful words from Jesus and from the Thought Adjuster. And I think we will hear, well, many other things that are going to change everything we have heard up till now, I suppose. So, I leave that to another time, another Lightline, and I want to thank all our speakers who were with us today. The Adjuster, and Jesus, Universal Father, Christ Michael, and Mantutia Melchizedek, and of course, I want to thank all of you, the listeners, who were present through this Lightline. Thank you, and hopefully till next week on Monday, and we will see each other again. Have a good day, and goodbye to all

End

 

 

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: LLUSA WEDNESDAY 10 APRIL 2024

« on: April 11, 2024, 14:07:58 pm »

Thanksgiving for this Lightline to Michael of Nebadon and Machiventa Melchizedek. Thank you, Lemuel and Ron. We are so glad to hear that the information will continue to flow. That is the most important to keep us together as a group under any circumstances, and to expel all lurking darkness. The tides will turn again, I am sure. Until then, we keep being about our Father's business wherever we are and receive instructions from within.  

The only part that is disappointing and painful is knowing that the world will not change for the better any time soon, expect if and when WTP will revolutionize the globe! That will bring much attention to the goodness of our Father and Father Michael, it might even swing the doors open to the visible Missions with acceptance. My prayer is to remove the individuals from leading positions who are the enemy of advancement for selfish reasons, and do not care to work for the best interest of the people. Let them live out their lives stripped from power positions. I know there are many, but Spirit can start somewhere that will have a snowball effect, I believe. It does not have to be that people would SEE Spirit in order to make some order in the world. Let people see some of the consequences of their actions instead.  Were we not tested and tried? Isn't that what the world needs to go through also? Some may come out like gold. May be not gold but silver, at least, as longs as turning to the light from darkness.  

The question I have left is about the SIXTH EPOCHAL REVELATION.  Will it still come to Urantia? If so, nothing has changed other than visibility. People of the world should learn anyhow to have faith without seeing when they see through such an incredible manifestation. We need to do the outreach better and that is our opportunity to partake in the Mission of saving Urantia.

Another question comes to mind that also is my PRAYER forever, will the evil ones be removed from Urantia continually and fully? There is enough suffering and depravation on the planet already without their further input. Souls are getting lost, so let there be light only and no more darkness! Please Father! No devil (or better names you call them) can stop our progress, the progress of greater Light reaching Urantia.  Let there be a constant exposure of the darkness that will cause people to able to choose the Light. Father! Please expose the darkness of corruption and dark secrets by your spiritual means!

Lastly, what is most concerning to us all for many years is Ron's health and Lemuel's as well. We pray, please Father Michael, grant them the privileges of life extension and /or miraculous healing, whatever it takes. We need them so much to keep the 'spiritual ball rolling' may it be Lightlines or WTP, facilitators of places of our family gathering. We all would also seek and be forever thankful for some healing in our aging bodies to able to stay the course. Thank you, Father, for listening. We know that your love has no end, that you consider my request and answer it. Thank you and Amen.

sonsofGod

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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: April 09, 2024, 12:31:21 pm »

1. 040824 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise
2. Subjects:
- report on the conditions on Urantia and decisions that has been made during the past days and weeks concerning the Missions  
- problems that spirit must face dealing with the leaders and nations of Urantia and potential solutions
- our purpose and potential in life
- Jesus’ words of encouragement and commission to us
- Tuesday LightLine canceled for tomorrow
3. Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Machiventa Melchizedek, Mantutia Melchizedek, Thought Adjuster of Elise, and Jesus
4. Transcriber: sonsofGod
5. Link To Tape:  

https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240408_110227 

Elise
Hello, everyone. Good day and good evening to some of you. This is the Lightline Netherlands International for Monday, April the 8th, 2024. I'm Elise, your host, and I welcome you all and thank you for tuning in.

Well, let me ask if there is someone to join us, but before we may say and welcome anyone, let us ask for our blessings from our Father for this session and for the world that is in such a terrible confused state. It has so many difficulties to deal with. We ask for your blessings, your help, your care, and love, Father, and we thank you for everything we receive from you every day of our lives. Thank you. Well, let's ask if there is someone who would like to address this group tonight.

Michael of Nebadon
Yes, this is Michael of Nebadon. Hello, everyone. I'm here, and I'm very glad to address this group on the Monday Lightline. You have a good number of listeners, Elise. We have 12 altogether here and people are working. And there is a phenomenon taking place that's quite interesting for your planet. The moon going to pass your sun, a full moon, is quite a phenomenon to watch. But, well, we'll stick to the Lightline for now, and, well, let me say this. Where should I begin?

A Mission on a normal planet is quite an undertaking. But a Mission on Urantia requires all of our strength and effort to estimate, and it's very difficult to carry out. The Missions that at first take place in spirit are usually vast and impossible for you to imagine. But what you know is the conditions on your planet. And also the plans that have been put forward to renew the earth. And that takes an enormous amount of time, strength, and reflection. It involves many lives, including many from outside of your planet. And we also have to deal with the insurrectionists, the rebels, who keep working against us. But they will be taken to other places where they will be judged.

However, I'm Michael of Nebadon, and I have to tell you that it is necessary that the earth is being completely freed from the poison and pollution that is constantly being inflicted on it. And for this, we need to use the means of spirit, which do not always seem very friendly. As you are also aware of, there are many high spiritual beings involved, and decisions had to be reconsidered and approved, and now the situation does not remain the same. Things are most complicated and almost impossible. We have to adopt new methods, and all of that will be of effect to many departments in the universe.

Moreover, man's attitude is not very flexible, and we are constantly confronted with the unchanging convictions of man who allows his own will to triumph over the will of the Father. I ask you, as I have done so many times, pray and be patient. The hour of the call will take place, and all who have waited so long to serve will be recognized. That doesn't mean you have to sit around and wait. Take time to care and serve your friends, your family, your neighbor, anyone who gives you an opportunity to love and serve.

Live as Jesus showed you, by serving his Father in heaven. Follow his example, and all will be well. I'm Michael of Nebadon. I do not speak many words today. I only tell you, we care for you. We love you; we are with you. This is Michael. I wish you a good day and I will turn this over to Machiventa Melchizedek to inform you about more that has been going on over the last days and weeks. I thank you for listening and good day.

Elise
Thank you. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Michael of Nebadon. Thank you for opening this Lightline and for your words. And welcome Machiventa Melchizedek. Please go ahead if you're ready, if you're there.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Oh, yes, I'm here. I'm here, Elise. I'm Machiventa Melchizedek and greetings to all of you. Let me speak to all of you about the situation that has developed over the past few weeks.

The whole situation regards life and the possibilities for change and growth for spiritual receptivity, whether it is the individual, your society, your governments of your nations, it all has deteriorated from month to month. And as you know, every attempt on our part, that is the side of spirit, has been stopped or withdrawn because nothing would worked to our satisfaction or our intention on a planet that seems to be in a state of deterioration in areas of government, governance, education, environment, and with that the people, and everything necessary to form a solid foundation for a man and his environment, which is necessary for a sustainable society.

We as the Melchizedeks are familiar with life on all planets and we know exactly how to act when circumstances ask us to intervene or where we may take charge, or deal with the situation. Which we always do in consultation with Michael of Nebadon, who is the Sovereign Lord of your local universe of Nebadon. We do give our full attention to Urantia. This planet is very important not only for this local universe, but for the grand universe, and even for the master universe where creation will be expanded in the far future. You are all well instructed and you have learned enough to understand the myriad of difficulties that we have to face, and all the circumstances both above and below that have made it impossible for the highest authorities to continue what has been laid out for Urantia, and proves to be one of the most difficult Missions ever undertaken.

Everything possible has been working against those who are going to the extreme of their ability to assist in what needs to be done for further development and spiritual growth on this planet. Where your Sovereign Michael of Nebadon has decided to let things be quiet until solutions are found and Missions can be continued in a different way to address the huge problems of poor development in your civilization, in spiritual understanding and knowledge about life on a planet. Your planet, that is now developing into a low educated and morally misbehaving overpopulated world.

In recent times during your Lightline, your last Lightline from Dominick it was mentioned that planets for humans were going to an evolution and are evolving from tribes to nations. And that this should eventually lead to a higher civilization of scientific and social and other institutions in a cooperative manner to a civilization of Brotherhood, which is, as we then said, far removed from the competitive or war-like civilization that you have now on the planet.

And the issue here is unity, unification. But that seems to be far removed from the thoughts of the people of Urantia, who are learning to fight for themselves, only for themselves, to be number one in charge of the most important positions in communities and in the world, as powerful small groups of individuals over entire communities that are thereby doomed to be left behind in many respects and are also deprived of what should have been a planet of growth, prosperity, and well-being for all, without even one of its citizens having to suffer an undignified life, or miss the opportunity to use their talents.

And that takes devotion and love, care and wisdom. That will lead to unification in families, in groups, nations of the world, care for the world, for its people, for all living things in it, to create one united world as the Father has ordained. So that man may become like him and find him through the means the Father has given you for experience, as you move through the many realms created specifically for that sacred purpose, and to grow toward the unification of it all.

I am Machiventa Melchizedek, I know you all, and you all know that changes have occurred and they will occur and at the moment that will not be communicated to you. We are not quite sure when or how this will work out, but do not be distracted from your good decisions or worried by actions taken for the planet. Remember, the universe is one and unification must come from the lessons of life and the overriding purpose of creation, which will ultimately be realized for all.

And as you can witness in a healthy and unified civilization entering the next planetary stage, a period of light and life, (recording error, couple of words lost here - 1) of Margul, your Trinity Teacher Son, who is ready and eager to start as Jesus is, as the Melchizedeks are, and all those whom you have yourself acquainted with for so many years.

I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and I advise you to take this time to be still and contemplate these things in your mind without worrying about the bigger picture going on behind the scenes. It is impossible for you to understand the magnitude of what needs to be done, or what you could ever do, except to know that you are a child of your Holy Father who loves you, and cares for you.

Be good, be loving, be helpful, be thoughtful, and do not forget your Universal Father God, who longs for you to walk the path of life that is set out for you. As Machiventa I tell you, you will likely hear from us and many others when we deem it possible to share something important to you, our human supporters. That's what you are. And remember, you're always under the care of Michael of Nebadon, of Jesus, and many, many others, so that you may feel protected and loved. We're still here. We're here for you, we're here for the world. And know that you are in the hands of the Father, the first Source and Center of all. This is Machiventa Melchizedek stepping back and I leave you in the peace of your Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon. Good day to all of you.

Elise
Thank you Machiventa, thank you so much. (Excuse me). Well, this is Elise, and I just have to see if there is anyone else who would like to speak to us.

Mantutia Melchizedek
This is Mantutia, your Planetary Prince. I am rushing in, for we have just concluded our meeting for today with the planetary government to make decisions for the times ahead. Because the situation on this planet is rough and uncomfortable, we could say at the least, we have been forced to change some of our plans. And these mainly have to do with the people on Urantia who seem to have no need for God, or his ministry, or his care in their lives.

I am Mantutia, and as you know, Michael of Nebadon, your Creator Father has postponed and silenced all the work for the Missions, and for good reasons. For there is no reason to start a Mission on a planet that is at war, for the warlike thinking that is rampant in many of your nations. If there would be any visible Mission, there must be an attitude of attention and openness and willingness to receive a delegation, so different from what you are used to see, and hear, and read. Michael himself has been in close contact with the planetary government and he sees no opportunity at this time to do anything of value on Urantia that could change the situation. He will of course never perform miracles to attract attention or to change the situation. But he'll wait until people are ready to receive what has been prepared for this world of negligence and stubbornness.

Time after time, attempts have been made to start the Missions and to this day, they were not even given a chance to start. And of course, from our side, you can imagine no one wants to intervene in the midst of destruction of murder, of people fleeing the bumps, and other war materials that you have invented and have armed yourself with over the years, thinking that they would be safe if they were to be attacked by their enemies. Well, my friends, that is not the case. The more the nation's develop and arm their countries with heavy, very dangerous nuclear weapons, the greater the threats will be, and the situation will worsen and tension then will increase. And it will only come to times when a world will either be in destruction, or for man will come to his senses and lay down all weapons, and start talking about peace.  

A start must be made on saving humanity, on saving the planet, on saving everything that lives on it before it is too late, and before human life on this planet, on this world has become impossible. Michael, your Sovereign ruler is deeply concerned and even angry that your governments are not taking the responsibility and are making no effort to negotiate, and we wonder if they will ever be able to do so. We, on our side, cannot assist or advise a government that has completely lost its way and has forgotten to act for the good of the nation but it's only seeking power. Ignoring the care and well being of the people is wrong, it is the wrong move. It will never lead to a solution, let alone peace.

What must happen is an opportunity for your world leaders that they should meet in long sessions to get to know each other and learn that you are all one people regardless of borders, race, religion or culture. All nations are built and rely on the families, your family, the smallest social group that forms a unit, and it's the building block of the future by being together, by meeting, by talking, by getting to know each other. They will finally see that the need for peace and happiness is the same all over the world and does not differ in your countries, just as it does not differ in all the families you can find anywhere in the universe.

So, let's hope that there is something that are good, and they hope for the good. Of course that will turn the situation around that might even force people to turn their attention to what is more valuable and could cause them to let go of the greed and the goods of the world, and to concentrate more on the things of God, which they have paid little attention to, and which is the most important and powerful force in the universe to help you find truth and value in your life. This has to come across all of the people, and the people in your governments have to become aware that they must let their egos go and meet with one another. This is Mantutia, it is all I wanted to say for this moment. I am Mantutia Melchizedek, and we thank you for listening and I wish you all a very good day.

Elise
Thank you, Mantutia Melchizedek. Thank you for your words. And let's hope that your words for better days will come true.
Let me have a look at my dashboard and see if there are any other who have joined us at the moment that we are shifting and that is me included. I see no question marks, no hands up, so, I know you like to see if I can continue and maybe there is someone else who could address us. We still have time. Is there someone else who would like to speak to us?

Thought Adjuster of Elise
Yes, Elise, this is your Adjuster. And I would like to speak to all present here, and anyone else who would like to listen. We are the Adjuster. We know the purpose of your life and your presence here at this time. We know the mission of your life in this world, where every child experiences what life is for them, and takes the steps forward on that habitable planet. But one planet is not the same as another one, and you are all created and adapted to the living conditions that the planet offers you.

So, it is on every planet everywhere in the universe that man has to deal with the conditions and the situations on that planet. And so it is that man will have to find his way and try to live as best as he can (- 3 - and provide to) his family, and through his experience create a civilization through knowledge with or without the help of religion that man comes to know God and wants to serve Him. The experiment of a universe with so many different life forms complementing and assisting each other in development and growth, all on the way to their Creator, is a beautiful and wonderful event, which the Father has designed and has provided everything necessary to make himself known in his universe and to reveal himself as Father. God's plan is grand and infinite, and will move, teach, and empower all of God's creatures to participate forever in the creation that has no end.

Elise
Just hold on a minute, I have to clean my throat. Just hold on. I'm sorry. Okay, let's continue.

Thought Adjuster of Elise
Everything that lives has the potential to evolve. People equipped with a mind can think and learn to understand and imagine the visible and the invisible. And these things will be able to be realized and thus determine the future of the group that will survive according to the law of evolution, which means that everything must be understood, and everything must be in balance before and during the next phase. Everything in the universe is centered on the presence of God, on his love, on his knowledge. In essence this knowledge is already inherent in the pattern of all creative things. It merely takes growth and discovery, and of course a mind to stand, and also the mind to understand who and what God is. What his purposes are and how man will be able to accomplish that. This is your task as a human on the planet, but you have been helped and ...

Elise
Well, this is Elise. I just do not know that word. Well, let me say, you just have been helped by your Adjusters.

Thought Adjuster of Elise
You all have an Adjuster. So, ask for him, take your time to think about this, what you have heard, and walk this earth with the piece of God in your heart. We are the Adjusters speaking through this transmitter. We wish you a good day.

Elise
Thank you, Adjuster, thank you. I don't know if we have anyone else here for us but I will give it a try, and just give me a minute to see if I can connect to someone. I think there's someone who would like to connect to this Lightline, just a minute please.

Jesus
Good day and good evening to all of you. Yes, I would like to address this group. This is Jesus, and I would like to give you a bit of encouragement. Some words of hope that will help you deal with your maybe disappointments about the changes and the silence of the Missions. You hear on the forum you have all been so loyal. You have been loyal listeners and workers, and you are all greatly appreciated for your patience and work. I am Jesus. And we ask you for a little bit more, if you can handle it. If you can be patient again with those who are constantly working to put this world on the right track and are trying to give a little bit of wisdom through counseling to those who keep showing their care and love for humanity. For humanity on Urantia, she is suffering so much from the terrible circumstances of war and crime, which then lead to death, hunger, and sheer pain for so many of your fellow human beings.

What can we ask of you? We ask you to stay the course, no matter what decisions will be made about you, or your world. We asked you to pray and give gifts to those who are in need. They have nothing all the way to the point where there is no hope.

I am Jesus, I am your Shepherd. Remember? But I am the Shepherd of all for all. Even for those without faith, without a church or temple, even when they forget to pray, or when they do not remember the things that I have taught the people on earth. We cannot change this situation, you cannot change this situation, but we will be there to assist. And we ask of you to be brothers and sisters to each other. And to remember my teachings which I gave so many years ago. I ask you to pray with me for your brothers and sisters who need everything. I asked the Father that they may find the strength to pick up what is left to be there for each other, to care for each other where possible. We pray to the Father for each of his children wherever they need his love. We pray for all. We pray for all of you. We pray for all who stand ready to help. We pray for all who lost their lives. They will be cared for on the mansion worlds.

I am Jesus and I am with Father, and we are there for all of them in spirit and in their hearts. This is Jesus. Stay with me and we will overcome. I love you and I leave you in my piece. Good day, my good people.

Elise
Thank you, Jesus. Thank you.  
This is Elise again, and we'll see once more if there is someone to speak, but I have a feeling that Jesus was here to give us some courage and love and understanding for what we are going through with all of our spiritual leaders and helpers. And that his words were the last for this session of this Lightline. Let me wait and see. I have a look at the dashboard, which is still the same. If you have any comments or questions or if there are anything that you would like to say, … Okay, I see your hand up, Dominick, and you are unmuted. Go ahead, please.

Dominick
Yeah, I just want to announce that … Elise, thanks for the meeting. Yes. Yeah, am I … am I audible? Can you hear me?

Elise
Yes, yes.

Dominick
Okay, great.

Elise
Sure.

Dominick
Lightline for Tuesday is canceled, tomorrow. I just needed to start with that announcement while we have everybody on the line who might be showing up. I’ll post it to the forum too. And that's all, back to you.

Elise
Okay, thank you. Thank you, Dominick. Thank you very much. Yes, well, we have some minutes left, but I think this is a good time to close the Lightline. And I just want to thank all of our listeners that you were here with me. And of course I want to thank all our speakers.

I now remember Michael of Nebadon, Mantutia Melchizedek, Machiventa Melchizedek, and the Thought Adjuster, and Jesus. I hope I did not forget any. Well, we're very grateful for everyone that took the time to be here with us, and thank you for your words and your attention, and your care. And with this I will just stop the recording and wish you a very good day and a good sight of the Sun eclipse if you are there to watch it. Until next week bye to all of you.

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Tuesday Lightline USA on April 02, 2024

« on: April 04, 2024, 11:16:12 am »

1. 040224 Audio Tape Tuesday Light Line USA; host: Dominick O.
2. Subjects:
a) A detailed report of Dominick’s experience and evaluation of the conference in Baltimore
b) Difficulties with the message of the Urantia Book,
c) Evangelism with the message of ascension scheme
d) Positive expression of an ascension scheme results in readiness to serve and satisfaction in any circumstance
e) Unveiling our personal and national identity
f) The first public presentation of WTP
g) Arthura addressed our national identity and adherence to Father and TA within
3. Speakers: Gabriel of Salvington, Arthura
4. Transcribed by: sonsofGod
5. Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240402_110026


Dominick  
All right, welcome everyone. Today is Tuesday, April 2^nd, so no April Fool's today. And we started recording this Lightline at 2pm Eastern. Okay. Well, for those interested, there's always a transcript and an audio recording at forum.serara.org. And also Father slightline.com. If you're tuning in by phone, you can press either five star or star five, I'm never sure which, but that'll indicate that your hand is raised and you'd like to say something.

Okay. So, we pray to Father and appeal to Michael, for good, clean and secure Lightline. Now we can hear anything you have to say. And if not, we are always grateful for our life and help us worship you and pray, and help our growth. And then of our fellow brothers and sisters in their journeys, and help us get to know you, and be like you, and give that back to everyone around us.

So, my name is Dominick, and I am doing a transmission work here in what's called a Lightline. And what we try to do is keep the line open for the spiritual administrations that they may give us any updates, any lessons, anything we are to know. And that in addition to that general aspect, we also strive to direct these Lightlines into Mission service. So the organization, the Magisterial Foundation that sponsors these Lightlines, provides this scheduled slot of 2pm, Monday through Sunday. And we currently have a little over half filled. So if there are other transmitters who wish to step in and take, say, a Thursday slot, or Friday, or a Saturday slot that is available to those who tune in.

And well, I attended a conference. It was great to be there, and it took away a lot of… a lot of things that was (were) a success. Just, I know everyone's curious about that, I'd be happy to talk if you want to. And I'll share some of the things that I transmitted yesterday morning. Maybe not in depth, but in general.

There is a... you could say, the beginning of rectification if you call it a social movement, everything that's happened. But that, it's important that the revelation and the Spiritual Administration involved in providing us that revelation is more than just a movement, and that the original instructions to get them with an epochal revelation was the structure of the Foundation, together with something called the Brotherhood. And that when you look at where we are at today, we have gone from what the Brotherhood was meant to be, which was like a nation. The Brotherhood is much more came to a nation when we talk about what the revelation states as family, tribe, nation and state and beyond.

And so what we have is really a state of tribal… a bunch of tribes, right now. And that there's this hope and effect taking place where hopefully we can amalgamate into a nation again. But than in its tribal effect it's pretty hard to overcome when the social movements are stuck in a bit of a tribe mode. Now, I'm going a little bit sideways here in that, the reason I say that is because tribal behavior is really a deep seeded unconscious behavior almost. And this is true, just in simple group groups. But there's always a group behavior that you don't want to rock the boat, you don't want it to do anything that will kick you out of the tribe or black sheep you. In the past that was really a survival thing. And then it meant death if you were taken out of the tribe, almost there. So these are deeply ingrained things in the human brain anatomy and behavior.

So that's just a definition there for you, but to have the institution, really an institutional organization of the Foundation that was, as far as I know, structured to at least keep the text preserved, and the distribution, I guess, of the revelation clear and clean. And somewhere along the way, obviously, before my time, my living experience is that all hay-wired, we all have our understanding of how those histories took effect.

But what I'm taking away from that conference, too, is the … what's the tribal effect of this is that, well, the conversation is always about a book. And it's never quite … It's a nice vehicle to just say, a book, because it implies and therefore communicates so many things, and then about our understanding of that book, but then, somewhere along the way the Brotherhood became something else. It became interested in publishing and things that the institution was supposed to do, and the institution became quite concerned about loyalty to and understanding that… that they want to control lesser teaching, and then teaching and study groups,

And then there's these universities popping up. And it seems like there should be some progress in the future but I'm not sure how fast that will go if they're left to their own devices, and so on what the cult of the Magisterial Foundation strives to do. And I use that word because that's how we are understood. That's not necessarily who we are. But I guess if you wanted to make a difference, it would be that the seed of our identity is graduated or no longer defined by stating how you found the book, and being able to say that you're loyal to the personalities and the deity in the book, and that you have personal relationships with him.

And really, when that happens, you don't, you just…, the book becomes less and less of an identity there and more and more of a resource, something to turn back to, when you need clarity on where your understanding is on anything, but at the same time, you're, you're moving forward, and we have a much more advanced world today than when the revelation took effect and it's publishing. And there's an awareness of that, that for sure.

And there's, back to the social movement though, is that … It's important to define what a social movement is, and what I received yesterday was that a social movement, or to put it a different way, the fifth epochal revelation is not merely a social movement. And that if you consider a social movement what those really are, they're just waves flowing on the times of the mores and the values of the day. And so they're subject to, you know, secular and profane propaganda that seek authority and influence.

And so tribes are often in our modern society here, very, very driven in their social movements, and there's a lot of propaganda Tani, certainly when we see the extremes today, and certainly the division do anything the way the media messages us by more or less tribal demographics, and it's really detrimental to the thinking of an open person.

Anyhow, if we graduate to nations and institutions and what the Foundation could do, if it was a working institution you could say, what it is working, out to be something that any institution would do, and that is something that binds the nation to the state, and produces civilization. So in other words, and in my understanding that means that the text would be something stable, and there's a stable platform for the nation, the Brotherhood, to produce things at the higher levels of the state, which is even higher than a nation, and that those things start to produce civilization.

And really a… what type of civilization? Well, that's quite clear to anybody who's familiar with that revelation, it's cooperative civilization. So it's not just kind of the civilization we have now, very competitive and belligerent, but cooperative. And so when the institution is the citadel of its charter in charge, now we can navigate the waves of these social adjustments, and withstand the dilution and corrosion in the face of social coercion. And so I say all this, because there's, with the tribal-ness, and the breakdown of the institution and the vehicle that was supposed to be creating a nation, we're stuck in this institution, which is taking a little more than what it was designed to do. What the Fellowship that's trying to take on more than thinks it's doing with the publications and whatnot. And there's this tribal disparate attempts going on that we're going to affect a civilization and it could just, it could be going a lot better, as we deal in unify.

So rather than, you know, judge that I think we've got a ways to go. And we could, we could be open to more. And so certainly, the Magisterial Foundation was welcomed there. Steven, Steven and I made a lot of good acquaintances and met a lot of good people.

And lastly, just the thing about worship, there's one thing about worship. It's, it's this. Don't bring yourself in, that's all I have to say about that. And, for me, if there's, if there's worship, I would just prefer to walk into a room where people are there, and be silent. And we can come and go freely as we choose. And, do I have anything else? There's some news to them, I'll see if they want me to talk about it, but is there anyone I can receive that has anything to say, rather it's about that or something new this week? Let me know. I'm here to receive.
I don't, I don't necessarily have a name, but I have a voice.

Gabriel of Salvington
Thank you, Dominick. I would like to address the group. This is, this is Gabriel. Gabriel of Salvington. Dominick made as much progress as we hoped he could. Michael sends his regards, regardless of anything he might have said the day before.

What you need to understand is Missions take place on a planet. The entire revelation is designed (so) that you can expect Missions to follow. Yes, the book is a Canon of personal religious experience, soul growth and describes an ascension scheme designed not only to clarify your cosmology, but it is the first reclamation of us, as ourselves here at Salvington to put the rebels on notice that judgment has occurred in favor of me, and on behalf of Michael. The work we do on this planet shall proceed and will go forward as it always has, starting with the ascension scheme.

The conference started with the soul, but it could incorporate so much more than just the mere quotations that pass for a strenuous concept. What it hints at, and what I will clarify, is that the fifth epochal revelation is a new yet restated ascension scheme for all mankind. What gets in the way of celestial communication for starters is the need to qualify the language to the effect that it becomes so diluted in pronoun, in correctness, you lose sight of the message.

So, we will continue to use that for at least this transmitter who bags that you play along, but the ascension scheme truly is something to be evangelized, and understanding of the soul really is not understood out in the world. Yet that is where the spiritual hunger is starting for those who you seek to connect with. It is there soul hunger that desires to know the ascension scheme, and while the simple message is the Father hood of God and the result in brotherhood of man, there is a lot of error, some of it deliberate in rebellion, some of it propagated innocently and some of that is propagated not so benignly.

But what it cannot do is withstand the truth of the ascension scheme being expressed positively and assertively and infused with your service and your projects and anytime you wish to share the Good News. And so, a conference really should, could, and ought to be about not just learning what is rehashed in a static book, nor should there be a sharing of how one found the book when such an experience could be years and years and years ago. Why not ask the question what has happened to you since then? How are you, how were different before and how have you evolved? And what do you think needs to get done that you could reach up, and receive what Michael has for you to reach down. Because Jesus declared, you have the Father  in you to hear.

So, there's this great feedback loop, a circuit, if you will, that you could strive to know the Father and hear Michael. Then once you are comfortable in your citadel of the Father, the citadel of yourself and your Thought Adjuster as part of you, and that you understand who you are and where you're going, and you feel loved and safe in that, you're ready to serve and not merely adjust. And you understand the ascension scheme provides a (kind of) satisfaction, regardless of how bad the planet gets. That you have at least reached a point in your evolution, in your ascension here on this planet now, so to speak, in this life, and your Thought Adjuster, and angels, and your soul is all the better off for it.

And that the last step before you go in the little time you may have left is to really go for it. So, that's all I have to say, and thank you. This has been Gabriel, Gabriel Salvington, and I wish you all a good day in Michael's peace, and the Father 's love. Amen.


Dominick
Thank you, Gabriel. Alright, so we're at 2:28 (pm) and I'd like to welcome a few internet callers, Robert, Charlotte, and Mr. zum Felde, welcome. Well, bear with me for a second. So with that, let's see, let's go with something else we took away in transmission the day before, so yesterday. So this was all. So it's fresh, and it reads the following. I wrote, I wrote the notes down. And for those of you who meditate or, you know, wish to experiment you could say, or see if you're able to transmit, it's really about journaling and getting a free flow you could say, where you're not really thinking about it. I'm more or less worried about it, having anxiety about it.

Anyways, this is more on the identities. So the personal identity, and then the national identity. Because when you're dealing with identity, you always have it regardless of what group you might be a part of or acting in. You have a self identity When you're in a tribe, you have an identity. A lot of us have family identities. And well, that's a, I mean, we have all been in the family and felt the pleasure and pain of having our identity within a family. I mean, it starts there, whether you, you have your true self, and then you have immediately what another person perceives you are, which has maybe nothing even to do with you. And then you go on into the tribe and the nation in the state, and then you feel that more when you go say overseas or to different countries, and experience it there. So, anyhow, the following is what I wrote down in my, my book here.

The seed of your personal identity is the Universal Father . And, and then we, in quotations after that, if you have trouble saying the Universal Father , there are plenty of equivalents that you can use. So continuing the features of your identity is your soul and the present of your identity is your personality, capable of freewill. And that the the afterlife, your ascension plan, your ascension, salvation, whatever, is a fusion of all of these things and there is a unity being sought after, that eventually you will have this event, this fusion event, which is the advancement of your ascension into a spirit being, a comp that is the beginning of your cosmic citizenship. With that fusion you are a spirit being.

Now let's combine, let's contrast that a little bit with the seed of your national identity. So how would the celestials define that? Well, the seed of your national identities reside in the deity and divinity personalities governing the administrative bodies of the universe. And that you need look no further than Michael of Nebadon, as your Sovereign. All loyalty resides in the Father, and he is known to you through Michael. So, that's the end of that blur. But you know, if you, if you can move your identity into those seats, personally with the Father and you're in your ascension scheme without losing your own identity in the middle of your personality, and that your national identity as a nation reside in deity and divinity, not a book!

So I would, well, I guess the word is challenged, but I'm not trying to be belligerent, but if … I think it would be tough in a conference for everybody to say that. And when I suspect that not so secretly, we are all wishing to have no fear, and safely and without anxiety saying the seed of our identities in the Father. It’s in Michael and it's with Spirit. And that we need not retreat to the safety of talking about a book.

So that's all I have to say about any written verse. I do have more, there was some stuff I might talk about later, but say that a Mission might coalesce these things and say the universities, but the universities has much more to do with just anything that the Urantia, anything affiliated with that is trying to do. And we've touched on in the last Lightline, I think, some of the pillars of study, you could say, or where that would fall in.

And just a little thing before I go, I'd be remiss, I also made a blunder personally, in my first public speaking about WPP, that… It was funny. I had somebody just calculating in their head when I said, 14 or 20 megahertz…, or 20 gigawatts. What is it? Okay, I can get that right. 20 megawatts of power being broadcast 200 miles. Well, he did a quick calculation and he turns to me and he goes, Yeah, that's about the 6000 toasters, and explains how he developed this unit that he gave toasters to fire, like how many, how much power is to each device. And so that took me off guard. I panicked a little inside, I thought to myself, well that's, that's not something that's going to power entire cities. Maybe I misspoke, and I didn't have the literature in front of me to refer to.

So I naturally thought to myself, Well, I must have misspoke, maybe I meant to, say 20 gigawatts. And so I'm so sure of myself in that correction that I tried, I compound my error by stating that I must have meant 20 gigawatts. And then even said that to another person who was listening later on that day, hey, I meant to save 20 gigawatts. That's let solve the toaster dilemma because I knew that this pattern was going to power much more than just 6000 toasters. Well, long story short, the broadcast of 20 megawatts, it turns out to be correct. and the gentleman who said 6000 toasters was right. But what we didn't understand with each other, and we did not convey was that each antenna, any end device, or any end user, sticking that antenna up to catch that broadcast receives the constant flood of 20 megahertz or megawatts. (hah-ha)

When we talk megahertz, that's the frequency it may have at 86.4 megahertz. So anyway, you get the idea. And I took that all the way up to the podium when I introduced the patent publicly. I don't think it was caught and this will be corrected, but we need…, we do need to correct that. Luckily, the literature and everything that fits the pattern doesn't go on by what I said, but the fact remains the pattern, the literature, I'll say 20 megawatts, meaning that any household will run by receiving those megawatts into their home. And Ron explained to me that if you needed to amplify that, you could pick it up at a substation and amplify it there if you needed more power, but you get the idea.

Is there anyone wishing to step in on my loose lips?

Arthura, go right ahead. You're, you're bailing water just fine.

Arthura
This is Arthura. And I welcome the group assembled here. Bur as Arthur I am the king of transmitter augmentation. You can converse with me freely. I invite those who transmit to understand that I come to you with the will of the Father. I fully recognize the Father as you know him, and I tell you, I know him more. But that is only to say, I can give unto you that of what the Father has distributed to me to give to you. Is my honor, is my service, and most often it is my duty, as it is defined and guided here by Michael. I turn, I turn inward to seek His guidance and He speaks to me.

Those of you who know the Father understand the word controller. And when I say that it means you do not understand, I will attempt to clarify your understanding. This is Arthura. You should always seek that, which balances the energies of all that you are. It is so complex. Once you isolate on one thing, there are 10 more things connected to that one thing that add to the balancing of that energy. And, so, what the controller is is not something that attempts to affect your will, rather the controller as the regulator, the modifier, when you have reached a stage of Father attunement with your, with the Father within you.

The energy I speak of that represents all these different things does get expressed as thought. And so, the adjustment of that thought happens early in life as you build the soul, and then another stage is the control, the effective control, the effective use what without the wild imbalances or out of sync disturbances that would be wildly out of sync, out of recognition, even unconsciousness of the Father. But at the same time, you need not be so hyperly conscious of the Father that you second guess what you're doing.

The controller represents a term where you are becoming more in sync, and be trusting that the control mechanism of the Thought Adjuster is becoming more and more closer to, not just synchrony, closer to fusion. And it's at that point where you are well instructed to invite dialogue and learn to listen, and remove the anxiety, and freely trust that the mind is capable of discerning that spirit can indeed communicate with your mind.

After all, these are personalities. The Father is pre-personal, and a lot of the beginning stages is literally scaring yourself and doubting yourself possibly when your mind speaks to you as you, in your own voice. And something deep within you feels as if it was somewhat outside of you, all at once, and that is a good rope to hang on to.

Dominick
Do you want to use the word rope, Arthura?

Arthura
Not really. But it's as good as any.

Dominick
Okay. I just think some people automatically think it's a good rope to hang yourself with,

Arthura
Certainly they're free to think that, but I hope they have a good laugh.

Dominick
Well, thank you, Arthura.

Arthura
This is Arthura. It is no laughing matter, but if you don't lighten up, you will never know some of the best qualities during your lifetime here in the flesh.

It is the seat of joy that allows you to share the Father with your brothers and sisters. No one likes a sour pass, no one likes someone who's so serious in their worship that is not inviting in a joy to share. That is a good note to live with. I'm Arthura, and I wish everyone a fantastic evening.

Dominick
Thank you, Arthura. Well, we, we close out. I think this is all the Lightline has to say unless there's anyone else. And I see no hands, and so what I'll do is probably close the Lightline recording, and we'll see who wants to stay on, but I'll leave everything in mute. And we can just hang on in silence if you wish. Good day everybody.

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Tuesday Lightline USA on April 02, 2024

« on: April 04, 2024, 11:15:27 am »

Lightline USA on April 02, 2024. Host: Dominick   Thanks to all who attended.

Here is the link to the audio: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240402_110026 


Thanks to all who attended.

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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International 01 Aprill 2024

« on: April 02, 2024, 10:24:08 am »

1. 040134 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise; other transmitter: Ron Besser;
2. Subjects: 
a) The Melchizedeks are fully prepared for the work to be done, will come to us and help us. Give it time to grow and see how the first very difficult steps will work out. The truth will shock people and it will seem unbelievable for most,
b) Mother Mary shared her earthly experiences of receiving the baby Jesus, his crucifixion and resurrection, its meaning to her and us, and her kind words to us
c) Jesus will come again to teach the population, and explained the way to the Father through Christ
d) Read Ron’s post on the forum he joust put ip right before this Lightline
e) Spanish speaking transmitters must transmit in Spanish and not in English unless they take a dictation
f) Michael of Nebadon is fully disgusted of Urantia politics that makes the Missions impossible. We will see him on television only, not yet a visible Mission.
g) Free electricity project will be though the Magisterial Foundation, and the sixth epochal revelation.
h) The UAI conference was a shame to Michael of Nebadon, and the last one
i) Three points of deceleration; war is coming to Urantia
j) More news on the reorganization of the Magisterial Foundation, on the future of Urantia Foundation
k) The Empty days of the week for Lightlines must be filled
l) Another bad political decision of the United States just announced  
3. Speakers: Machiventa Melchizedek, Mary, mother of Jesus, Jesus, Christ Michael, Michael of Nebadon
4. Transcriber: sonsofGod
5. Link To Tape:  https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240401_110202
 
Elise  
Hello, everyone. It's Monday today, in a new month, April, and it's the first day of April 2024. This is Lightline Netherlands International. I'm Elise Sofia Veronica, your host. And I'm glad to see so many of you on the call today, and through internet connection also, we are at the moment with 18 altogether. And let's see if we may receive some words from the spiritual world. But first, let's give thanks to the Father, just for our lives, and for being a part of His creation. Where we can more and more experience the immensity of His love for us as we grow and come to understand, all what represents truth and beauty, and goodness. We also ask for clear communication and understanding of speech. We thank You, Father, for giving us this day and the opportunity to be with you. And let's see if there is someone for us here who would come to address this group.
 
Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. Good day to all. Yes, I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and well, you have... yeh, you have received some words on Easter day, I remember. All I can tell you that we are working hard to get things done that are on the agenda, to be able to explain the nations of Urantia when the time comes our announcements with the intention of making things clear and understandable to you. To all of you, to the world. We, as the Melchizedeks, are fully prepared for the work to be done. But that does not mean that we have a full idea of how the visible missions could be offered to the people in a most careful manner, You know that many ways of introduction have been mentioned and changed and adapted many times because of various unexpected situations here on the planet, but also in many affairs in the universe. We, as the Melchizedeks, we do like to come to you. We know the planet, we know you, and we have looked forward to working with you and among you. And we will but for now we will have to stick for some time to our own resources, to our own personnel, because it has become too dangerous to involve any of you, when we show up in the field. And of course, you know, what I mean by that
 
The Father does not want anything to go wrong, that would normally be assigned to any of the celestials, and could be assigned to any of you, but should really be done by celestial beings of high status and authority. It is just too risky, too uncertain to start something like that. And although we hope to be your collaborators in some way, in times to come, we hope that you will understand and give it time to grow and see how the first very difficult steps will work out for both sides, the spiritual side and the human side
 
Yes, we need to be very careful and not be hasty in our decisions, or to have you burdened with all the unforeseen consequences that can come from actions or work that has not been applied on this planet before. And that could shake up the entire population. It will certainly give them a totally new image of the world and of their future. They will all have to deal with that. No one will be able to escape the consequences of the evolution of the planet itself, and its relation to men. No one will be able to escape the methods that are used to inform people of the truth of life and survival of their growing souls into the Father's Kingdom.
 
I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and yes, for very good reasons the truth will shock people. And it will seem unbelievable for some and for most, I could say, but it must be faced for the ongoing development of all and everything on this planet. A planet that has been ruled by turmoil and extortion, abuse and crime, selfishly dominating groups with money and power all the way up to war. In reaching an innocent population is dragged along and the world is trapped in the grip of poverty and retardants in every field. I am Machiventa, you know me well. And you also know that's my order, the order, the order of Melchizedeks, will always be ready. We are very experienced to work for the good cause. Many of our order will assist you in what you have to go through. And many will have to take on very difficult tasks and methods to restore and reform this world, and to get all this done. But we promise, we will do our utmost and succeed in our efforts to fulfill the hopes, the wishes of our Creator Father, Michael of Nebadon, who is also your Creator Father, and Master Sovereign of his local universe of Nepotism.
 
I am Machiventa, and we hope you understand that any decision made is for the good of Urantia, and for all people, and for all generations to come. And we thank you for now, we stand back. And I will hand this over Elise to someone who is very familiar to all of you, but does not speak very often, if ever on the Lightline, as we remember. Thank you for listening. I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and I step back.
 
 
Elise
Thank you, Machiventa Melchizedek, thank you. Thank you for your words, and your care.
 
Mary, the Mother of Jesus  
This is Mary, the mother of Jesus, my son, who was born to me and was my first child in our little household. It was very difficult to leave our home just before he was expected, and to undertake the journey to Bethlehem in the condition I was in. But we, Joseph and I, like everyone else had been called to register by order of the Roman rulers who ruled Palestine at that time. And heavily packed we left. I could often rest on the donkey that Joseph had prepared to serve as a beast of burden for my convenience. And we completed the journey in a few days knowing that it will be difficult to find shelter in a very overcrowded city of Bethlehem, which was our destination. Joseph was very caring. He took good care of me and the animal and we arrived in Bethlehem tired but in good spirits. When looking for a place to spend the night we found a place where many people had set up their little camps. But because I was heavy with the child we were eventually offered a place in an empty barn with clean straw and water, which was very suitable for spending the night. But much rest was not given to us as Jesus was born that following day, and we were happy with the health of the women who were around to help. Jesus was a beautiful, healthy baby, and we were both overjoyed. I can tell you this, because you all understand the happiness of a mother, holding her newborn in her arms for the first time. And admiring the life that has just been born from her. It is that deep, motherly love that in a very special way, bonds, mother and child forever. And together with the father's love, will set aside everything throughout their lives, to give that child everything the child needs
 
All sorrow or pain, or all that will happen to her child strikes a mother deep in her heart. And she will always be willing to sacrifice everything for her children. When a child suffers or dies, it is always heartbreaking for the parent, in whatever way the child is called back to the Creator. But there is no way I can explain to you my pain, my suffering, when I experienced what was done to my son Jesus when he was arrested as an innocent man, and cruelly put to death.
 
The pain in my heart was unbearable. In many times, I felt myself on the verge of collapsing. And only my family members knew how to keep me going. The death of Jesus was horrible to witness. And it took me years to get rid of the images of this repulsive event that transformed me and my family into stronger believers in the words that Jesus had imparted to us, but which never erased the images and the grief.
 
And now, my dear children just after Easter you have been celebrating the resurrection of Jesus. And that is exactly the right thing to be celebrated forever. His life on earth was of great significance and will forever prove to be of value to this world, and to the many other worlds in Nebadon and beyond. For Jesus's resurrection is proof to all the living in the entire universe of the power Are and love between the Creator Son, and a Bestowal Son, the divine mystery of the Father revealed to the people of the inhabited planet
 
I am Mary, the mother or Jesus, I say this to all of you. Nothing is so holy, so purely Divine is what has manifested itself here in this world during the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. it overshadows all pain and sorrow and destroys it, through to divine manifestation and love of the Father himself. Remember these things when you celebrate Easter. And remember my joy when I came to understand all these, and when I came to the full realization of its meaning, as you all will one day. May this truth take root in your heart so that you may be forever reconciled with the glory of our Jesus of whom I, Mary, had the privilege of being the mother. I am truly Mary, Jesus's earthly Mother and I give you my son with all my love, as He gave Himself to you. Love one another as Jesus has loved you during his life in the flesh. I thank you. Good day.
 
Elise
This is Elise. Thank you Mary. That was a wonderful story. Thank you so much. Thank you very much.
 
Jesus
This is Jesus. I'm here for all of you. And I give you a few words to remember for today, and the days to come. For the world will see me again and will learn of the many things I'm going to teach them. They will have to get used to my different ways of teaching, especially those who have learned about my previous life on this earth. I have much to say, which will not always be easy to understand and appreciate. I'm coming to the world for a second time as I promised, when I left the world so many years ago. I am still Jesus, but I have been given a different status, and I now work for the Father and for Michael of Nebadon as deity. I have the power to do that and to make sure that my world of my human birth becomes a world for the Father to enjoy, and for his children to grow and prosper, and to live in his name.
 
Yesterday was Easter Sunday. I did not speak. Although it's a very special day in history. But most people do not understand its meaning. They will just tend to their own business and gather for a happy meal. That's good. I want them to have fun. I want them to enjoy each other, to be happy. That's the way it is. That we are in for a change.
 
Remember, we come to this planet to help, to correct, what has been done to the planet and its peoples for so many generations. Many have refused their Creator. God, who loves each of his children, and continues to wait for their love in return. I am Jesus. Keep up the good spirits, all of you. Be what you always are, trustful and patient. Be happy and full of expectation for a new time to come. I am Jesus. I am your Jesus, and I am with you every day. Remember me. The way to the Father is through me. I am your shepherd. I am your teacher. I am your brother. I am Jesus. And I wish you a blessed day
 
Elise
Thank You, Jesus. Thank you so very much for coming to us on this Lightline. Thank you for your words.
 
Christ Michael
You're very welcome. I am Jesus, but now is Christ Michael. And I want to speak a few words. It is this. All who understand the mystery of my incarnation to become the Christ, they'll be with me in the kingdom. It is the Father who asks his Sons to experience the worlds of His creation. No matter what those worlds offer them, they will succeed in their missions. But they are the Sons of God who represent him in the realms of creation. For the Father will never come down to meet his children. No, the children go up to the Father, after they have experienced what the Father has given them. We, the Christ, are the means by which the Father spreads his knowledge and shows the people of the inhabited planets and throughout his creation, his love and his great mercy to those who do not know yet, but we'll learn by taking up their cross, and walk with me, to the Father, who will see your efforts and understand your love for him.
 
I am Christ Michael. These words are not difficult to understand. And they will even reach the ears of all those who do not believe in the Father. And his holy existence is Christ Michael. And I have spoken. Remember these words, and go in peace.
 
Jesus
This is Jesus again to all of you. Take these words of Christ Michael and make them your own by doing what your life offers you to do. Do not neglect what has been brought before you, for you shall go where the Father wants you to go. You shall serve where the Father needs you to serve, along with others, making the world a little brighter. With the help of me, Jesus, and many, many other divine Sons sent by our Father who was once ordained that is will be done. And no one can escape it. Nor will they be able to deny the truth or what the Father has so clearly indicated to his creation of time and space. This is Jesus and we are all waiting for the right moment to put our feet on the ground to join hands and join in a Mission, so important to this world. Your world, my world, as I was once a human on this earth. This is Jesus and I leave you again with my peace.
 
Elise
Thank you so much Jesus. Thank you Christ Michael. Thank you for these special-special messages we may hear today. Let's see what else we can do. Let me look at your dashboard for a moment. We have, oh we have Charlotte and Carol joining us. They came in a little later. And I see Ron is joining us also. You're all very welcome shall we? So, we're up to 19 altogether.
 
Let me see if I can connect to something else? Someone else? Ron, I have a very strong feeling that I have to hand it over to you. I just try to... I'm just going to ask you, if if you're ready, if you can take it for a while. You are unmuted Ron.
 
Ron Besser  
All right, Elise, this is Ron, can you hear me all right?
 
Elise
Yes, sure.
 
Ron Besser
Okay. I have more or less relegated myself to a back seat in order to appropriate what is really going on. The entire idea of the Magisterial Foundation is to have prepared a landing ground for whatever the Creator Son wishes to use it for. We are more or less put out to sea and not operating very well at all. But, I do have a connection yet to Christ Michael. And he wishes to speak on additional concerns.
 
Christ Michael
I am Christ Michael. I recently had Ron post a very important post that describes my conviction that the world has gotten itself into a turmoil that is very hard to remove. In normal Missions, we will remove the worst of the problems and motion all to see the circumstances and what we must prevail with. That post is up. He posted it after the Lightline started, but had to take about an extra 10 minutes before he could finish it. He is in difficulty. He's nearly blind and has no real feeling and his fingers or legs. I am pressing that in order to make sure that the entire issue of the Magisterial Foundation is no longer present. However, it has been present long enough to make a statement.
 
The statement is the Magisterial Foundation is now the organ through which I will speak to Urantia. I am Christ Michael. I am no longer just the Creator Son. For reasons of state Ron is sitting back and letting me take the entire meaning of this connection to you for whatever it means to you. We've slowed him down as we've slowed Elise. Those of you who speak Spanish need to speak English better. I am going to announce that transmissions which are going out through Hispanic individuals will be mostly in Spanish, then English. You're not asked to do the English I will send it to you. But wait when you are done with the Hispanic translation for me to speak English and take it down accordingly with what I dictate, Don't attempt to translate. Do not, I repeat, attempt to translate,
 
And now this. You, Ron, are almost blind, you have about 10% vision left. You are exhausted, you can barely see the list of names in front of you. But you do have the sense of having control. In that control, let me speak to this. I provided Ron a post of considerable length that is now up. Just go find it and read it. It repeats the problem that the Missions have. Urantia has managed to snarl up the entire idea of a managed Mission. I am disgusted with the United States and its allies. And I am thoroughly impoverished with the idea of Russia even being a nation state. However, that's what I have to deal with. Starting, oh, maybe late tonight, maybe tomorrow, I will establish a new regime to talk through. I'm not tired of the Magisterial Foundation, I'm not tired of this discussion forum, but I am very tired of the political situation found on Urantia in the middle of what I consider a robust need for God
 
For reasons of state let me pontificate. One moment. I look at Russia as impossible to deal with. It will learn what to do in the future. I look at the Ukraine situation as impossible. Russia wants to play King Tut. All right. You play King Tut, but I guarantee you kingdom of what? I am asking Ron to slither down from his Magisterial Foundation and just let it ride. He's happy to, as the reason for the appearance of Dominick at the Lightline, or rather at the Conference in Baltimore, was to see to it just what the UAI and others have come to with regard not only to the disaster in Baltimore, but to the disaster on Urantia that I have decided not to do a Mission, but to become fully available through a visible exercise, I never had the chance to do when I was Jesus.
 
You will see me on television. But that's about it. I am not going to come to a world that is so full of chatenary and disabling employees as you've got now. The gentleman called Trump has managed to snarl the political ways of the United States and its allies. In normal times, I would remove him, but these are not normal times. Please be advised. I will not appear, so long as that gentleman is appearing in your political process. I will save you the time of what I think, but I warn you. Do not be particularly caring about the Trump situation, or the United States situation, or the Russian situation, or the Japanese association with regard to China and the South China Sea. It's war. But let's be a little calm. The trial that the Chinese see is that the United States has surrounded it with allies with nuclear technology. It refuses to live that way, and will demand that the United States remove itself from the South China Sea and remove the fleet between Formosa and the mainline Chinese. For that reason, the United States will employ its nuclear edge and provide all allies in the region with one statement. This shall not stand. If it comes to that, and it hasn't it, it has not yet come to that. Then when it does, I will not appear either to the Magisterial Foundation or to Urantia. I will go silent.
 
Furthermore, Ron Besser has the leading edge in one particular concern. He has technology that will save the world. He has free electricity and for that reason, he will have to figure it out himself because we are not going to help one iota. For reasons of state Ron says, Well, fine. It's your technology. I merely copied it. For reasons of state that’s not true Ron, your heart is in that and so is your soul. You are fully aware that the entire matter is dependent upon money and that you are not looked at, much less provided money. For that reason, you have said, All right. Let it sit there until hell freezes over. I'm not budging. For reasons of state, hell is now already apparent, but you are not going to let it freeze over the technology. It will find its own and it will find its way, but I guarantee you do not let it just for the Susquehanna Valley. Let it for the United States and let it for the free world. The communists have made superior changes to their ideology. Their ideology is fail safe, so long as you don't question it. China has managed to put a state together where no one is required to say anything. Just keep your nose to the grindstone and you're fine. China will lose big time. But that's not miy doing. That's political doing.
 
Finally, this, the entire region of the world that will enjoy free electricity is the United States and its allies. It will not broker the time or the temperature to afford free electricity to the communist state. You want to be communist, you go right ahead. But it is required that spiritual progression be dominated by a multi force. Republican or Democratic state. The United States is in terrible grief over the loss of the bridge in Baltimore. Ron knows the bridge he's been over it several times. It's quite a construction. But he also knows that it is not necessary to use if you have an alternate way of getting to the south. That is south of Baltimore.
 
For reasons of state, he knows that route 50 will take him beyond the bridge and does not use a bridge at all. For our calculation, we're going to use route 50 and not worry about a bridge like the Magisterial Foundation. For that reason, then, Ron, you are being removed from the concerns of the Missions and let to survive with the technology that you hold. You don't particularly care but you are a little concerned about what we have in mind. Well, let me tell you what we have in mind.
 
The Magisterial Foundation is no longer the king of what shall we call it? The Internet convention to Jesus, or to the Jesus homes sphere, now Salvington. The Magisterial Foundation is now concerned with the technology, but not speaking to the terminology upon which we base our Mission. Listen to this tape again and again to get that. We will not use the Magisterial Foundation to get to the technology of the Mission. It will be used as the technology for free electricity and whatever else we choose to provide. Ron is stoic about this, you're not. The truth of the matter is that we will have a station broadcasting what we want and what we have to say, free of any human activity. For reasons of state Ron is reacting. What in the world was all that join us at the beginning of the announcement of the Missions and suddenly they are not even speaking, the Magisterial Sons. Well, the problem is not them or you, Ron. The problem is Michael of Nebadon. Ron says, well, that son of a gun. The truth of the matter is I laugh, because Ron is for me, whatever I do. And whatever I do is a surprise.
 
You're not going to have a visible Mission. Not yet. Listen carefully. I am now pulling down all of the means for us to enter. I am putting up all of the means to communicate enough for you to understand what is happening. But the journals that have other Foundations or Missions is now truncated. I don't know what Machiventa Melchizedek has in mind, but we are closing down some of those transmitters. Ron just offered Machiventa a rebuttal. He says he has nothing to say. I am Michael of Nebadon Ron, and you are out of order to suggest that he needs to say anything. All right, Ron, you have your point. In any case, let us say this. The entire matter of the Magisterial Foundation, its work, its technology is flat out denied. If you make one more remark and I see you have and it is this.
 
Ron Besser
We have cooperated. You may do as you please, Michael. We support that. But we will not be silenced, at least until we understand what has prompted the disuse of all that was prepared.
 
Michael of Nebadon
That is fair Ron and I tell you this. That Conference in Baltimore this past weekend. is a shame to me. Ron noted that Steven Gitz went home slightly ashamed and not understanding what he ran into. Dominick Ohrbach stayed the course, and was applied with the usual Gitz over attending a conference with a UAI. I looked at it, and Ron did and said It is useless. It does not settle anything. It leaves open, a way to be used, but there is no confirmation of what to do with the Urantia Foundation or the fifth epochal revelation. Folks, the fifth epochal revelation is over. The sixth will take care of it, but it takes about a year to do it. Ron will do it. He is fully dedicated, and one of my favorite biased individuals. And finally, this. 
 
I have decreed that the Magisterial Foundation will do the Magisterial Foundation technology, but that it is not particularly I'll place for us. What do I mean by that? I mean, we shall not use the Magisterial Foundation, or its ability to combine transmissions, or its ability to stand well. It does stand well, but we dare not use a human institution for what we are about to do. Ron says, I failed to understand that, but as you choose, it is your prerogative, Michael, and we stand with you. For that reason the Magisterial Foundation then folks, is to be applied to the technology and to the Lightlines and to the various communication sets that we have established. But it is not the mission itself. You had hoped that you could participate, Well, you can. But it's not through the Magisterial Foundation. Is through the magisterial pronouncement of another corporation Ron has applied but not used. It is the Michael Foundation, International. It's got sitting there without any broadcast without any bank account. It is just sitting there as a subsidiary of the Magisterial Foundation and the Rayson Corporation. I will make use of it as I will and no need for an account Ron. It is strictly spiritual. I will bring it to your attention now and then and you will bring it to the attention of the world when I say so.
 
And finally, I have never met a son so determined to be right. Ron has supplied everyone with an ability to get into these discussions fully. He is at the end of his road. He is nearly blind. He can barely make the day and frankly is hungry most of the time, not because of lack of food, but because of lack of confirmation. He has placed ready to do anything I want to do, but I don't want to do anything. For that reason Ron says okay, what do you have in mind? The answer is nothing. The truth of the matter is, I'm not doing a darn thing. The truth of the matter is, I have so soiled my hands, trying to put Urantia back the way it was for a Mission that I've lost some of the keep that the Father says is necessary for a Creator Son to provide a Mission when it goes to a planet, especially Urantia.
 
I am now going to decree the following. Number one, the Magisterial Foundation is not corrupt. It is slow and bleeding. It knows the truth. Number two, we are not removing the Magisterial Foundation. We are using it to produce free electricity. It will go. Three, I am no longer going to converse with Ron or anyone else until they understand there is no longer a precipice which they must travel to and jump into the bottom to affirm that they are with us, but have no real understanding as to what they are to do. I thought it was obvious. Ron is obvious. Do as you wish. We support whatever you want. But this is Michael, I will not use the Foundations. I will use my own protocol. And that is to let things ride until we have a Mission. The Magisterial Foundation is the most proud foundation we have on Urantia. It will continue. It will continue to hold these frequency meetings where I may speak. But I will not allow the Magisterial Foundation to produce free electricity without me in charge of the technology. Ron says he's a little confused, he's already dedicated it to the Melchizedeks, that he is not in charge unless there is no one else to speak, then he will speak. I approve of that. But the time is coming, that Urantia will be at war. Don't be fooled. Don't be uncaring. China is a rascal. Japan is a worthy adversary. Formosa will not trigger the war. The United States will by insisting that the South China Sea is freely navigable. China will dispute it. And then the grease is in the fire. It will flame.
 
But that's not immediate. What is immediate is the final statement of the Conference in Baltimore was, we'll see you again on another day. Well, I doubt it. What is about to occur is that the Urantia Foundation has had it and will declare itself more or less out of the way. Ron has not declared that. But he means it. If the Urantia Foundation goes, the Magisterial Foundation is the people, is the corporation, is the staff that will see to it that the Urantia Book is available and readable, and that a new Urantia Book is available by the end of this year. That's number one. Number two, don't mistake the Magisterial Foundation as the Urantia foundation. Even Ron does not do that. But is the survivor of what is to come. Number four. Let it be known that I'm Michael of Nebadon no longer converse simply with Ron, Dominick, and whoever happens to be there. But I am sending them a Melchizedek, fully incarnated to speak with Ron and Dominick in the evenings I choose. That will be fun to Ron and Dominick, but let's put it this way. Melchizedek is not Machiventa, or Manituba, but Mantutia, and he will insist that the Magisterial Foundation become the spokesman for what is left of the plans for a spiritual Mission to Urantia.
 
I am withdrawing all capabilities, all intentions now. They will have their meetings in the evening when I propose. They will see him inside and no need to go to the door, Ron. That's fine with you. You are fully acclimated with that anyhow, and Dominick will get used to it.
 
Finally this. The temper of some of you is, this is grandstanding. Well be damned. You're not welcome. For those who take it honestly and sincerely, we have a place for you. It's not the Magisterial Foundation, but for now it does. To keep us together and to not remove the foundation which is listening. We are quite sure that the symposium that was held in Baltimore was the last of its kind forever. Ron sent Dominick because he couldn't go. Steven attempted to be there and he was made very ill. The truth of the matter is, it's no way to conduct an epochal revelation and a Mission, the size we have prepared. It must be withdrawn. The sixth epochal revelation prepared. The Magisterial Foundation enlivened that it produces technology and the six epochal revelation. It's the only one, the only position we have left on Urantia. Ron has carefully worked it. What you propose Michael is yours. I will support it. For those of you who do not support it, be damned. You're welcome to go to the wind and reap whatever is there. You have no understanding, none, of what is proposed.
 
Ron does and holds it well. I will continue to communicate with him. The discussion forum is too valuable to take down, But people I warn you, you're losing your center when you do not discuss the modes of the day that trouble you. Ron looked at it and said well do I take it down? It's useless. The only thing that we have got going is the Lightline. And that is not discussed. We need more posting, we need more availability. I have thought to put up another one and I will. But it will be by invitation only. This one, the one you're using now will continue as it is. There are reasons to state that the next one is by invitation only. And not immediately.
 
And now this to you Ron Your eyes are very bad, you can barely see, You are not welcome to spirit away while others play.
 
Ron Besser
(hah) All right.
 
Michael of Nebadon
Now this. It tickles your sense of humor because you know it got a fist in it. But also, you don't understand what you may have done wrong or not done. You have done everything and you have not done wrong. You have left the door open to join, to use and to make use of, but you have not said to me take it and I will assist. You are silent because I'm not done.
 
This. I will take on the Magisterial Foundation fully, providing you are entirely absent for one week. You want to play with the word weak, for that's what you consider yourself if removed. But I need to rebuild the Magisterial Foundation, so that it is a powerhouse. It will not take the place of the Urantia foundation. That is another corporation you have already established, Ron, and I will make it clear what I want. You say fine, that is just fine. But this, I probably am going to remove you not as a living human being, but as an abstract of me. You are not easily concerned with a Magisterial Foundation or any of its doings unless we have a direct voice. And without the direct voice, you find it just another corporation. That's true. and you do not make a lot of fuss about it. For reasons of state then, the Magisterial Foundation is not truncated, but stays as the technology. And I will use the Michael Foundation International as the spiritual mission to Urantia in absentia until we decide that a Mission is really possible.
 
And you say, so be it. You do not bother to fight the other institutions that must be enjoined. You have Raz working on the archive, do so. It's mighty important. Raz, get it done. There is an urgency to it. War. Get what you can. Let Ron know what you have. Be specific. How you have protected it, and how we may provide it for readers in the future to know the final dissolution of what we prepare for a Mission to Urantia, with a Magisterial Foundation and whatnot, and are going to prepare the Mission with the Magisterial Foundation regarded. It's too good. We like it. We can plan through it.
 
As far as the other spokesman, transmitters out west, and in certain cases out east, we are going to ask them to stand down and provide nothing for about a week. Here we go again. Today is the first of April 2024. We are now learning that we are shutting down, not the Magisterial Foundation, or the magisterial discussion forum known as Serara.org. We are going to announce this. 
 
Number one, no Mission, not as you understood. Number two, no final dissolution. Urantia Foundation will remain until it falls apart. Number three, The Magisterial Foundation known as this particular forum will remain. It's too valuable. You are to hold the meetings of Lightlines, as far as I'm concerned, forever into the future. Tomorrow is Dominick. Wednesday is Lemuel. There is no Thursday and Friday and Saturday but Sunday is Ron. Ron will be available and well. I insist that new Lightlines be accorded to the schedule. You now have Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, empty Thursday, Friday and Saturday. I want them filled with Ron. You cannot comment to the unity, or to the other individuals who transmit. Well, because they have decided you are useless. Well, let them decide that, let them become cast to the wind. We don't care about them. Machiventa does, and we'll see to it as he pleases.
 
You, Ron, will decide how to put it together. But we invite unity and other transmitters to fill in Thursday, Friday and Saturday transmissions as Lightlines scheduled here at 2pm on every day. And for that reason the invitation is open. Let us see what you do. Otherwise, you have no say.
 
And finally this Elise, we're over half an hour. But so what? I'm giving this back to you with the understanding that Elise, you are not to open any office for the EU until there is some understanding by the EU that God matters. In the United States it is still a major factor. In the east, it doesn't matter. We shall make a difference, but our way. The Magisterial Foundation and the discussion forum shall remain present. I will see to the remaining concerns of Ron in his own way. I now return this to you, Elise, for your own consideration and to end this particular Lightline now.
 
Ron Besser
This is Ron, Elise, go ahead and take it back. And do as you please. Thank you.
 
Elise
Yes, thank you, Ron. I will, thank you. And great Michael of Nebadon for this long and extensive dictation, and a very clear explanation. And know Ron, that we appreciate your work, especially in the circumstances you're in. Thank you so much. We're going to close this Lightline. We have had 20 on the call. And I have seen a very important Lightline, very important to listen to again and again. I think it's very clear how it was explained. So, thank you, Machiventa Melchizedek for coming to us, and Mary, the mother of Jesus, Jesus himself, and Christ Michael and Michael of Nebadon, and all of you who came to be our listeners on this very important Lightline. I thank you all. I wish you a very good day.
 
Ron Besser
Elise. Elise, this is Ron.
 
Elise
Yes.
 
Ron Besser
One moment
 
Christ Michael  
I am deed to speak in spite of my question and I allow this to come through regardless of my concern.
 
Ron Besser
Go ahead voice if there is one, and let us know what you have held the closure up for please.
 
Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael Nebadon. Ron. I didn't know if I would dare do that. But your senses are super alert. You will not permit the cabal to speak, but you will allow Me to speak.
 
Ron Besser
I certainly do.
 
Christ Michael
Thank you. I am Christ Michael. I have stepped on her farewell and I will return to it, so you can close it down fully, Elise. But hear me out on this. The truth of the matter is that Ron is operating on about 6% of his energy. He is unable to see almost anything, and is just about ready to close the Lightline and take on what's left of the day. I am going to say this to all of you. Don't count me out for anything I may propose. I am fully disgusted with the United States, with Europe and Southeast Asia. None of them can seem to pull out the truth. War is not allowed. Wait till they run into that. But also listen to this.
 
I am not going to esteem myself by speaking only to Ron, Dominick, you have got to set up another discussion forum using the simple machines, so that we can have an audience that is invited and that we do not play to those who do not listen. Many of you are so decided that this is normal circumstances. It isn't. I am returning this to you Elise, only to warn Ron and Dominick they've got to perform immediately and not wait for another day. Dominick, you need to be with Ron to determine what is planned and to do it immediately. Do it there while you're at Ron's. I want another discussion forum. Ron, we'll set it up, you bring it online. And further, it will be by invitation only. Don't go looking for it without the invite.
And fully this. I am outraged at what has just happened. The United States has warned Jordan that unless it provides the food and supplies, it will do so, but will stage the aircraft and ships not in Jordan, but in Saudi Arabia. It's the wrong move. In any case, I turn this back to you, Elise.  I'm sorry for the input., but it just occurred and I wanted to speak to it.
 
Ron Besser
Go ahead, Elise, close this down then. Thank you.
 
Elise 
Thank you Michael, thank you Michael of Nebadon. You are always welcome to speak in any time or any circumstance. You’re welcome to do whatever you think is needed, thank you so much. Well, let us close up this Lightline for today by just saying goodbye and just waiting for another day and another Lightline tomorrow. Thank you for listening and have a good day and good night.  
 
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1. 032624 Audio Tape Tuesday Light Line USA; host: Dominick O.
2. Subjects:

• opening announcement regarding Lightline transcripts
• no available sovereign land to claim for the Missions
• the five pillars of social engineering, Ministers of social engineering  
• definitions of expectancy, anticipation, and preparation, correlating to pre-Bestowal, Bestowal, Second Return, post Bestowal
• question about Dominion’s relation to Mission policies
• Ron Besser is the spokesman for the Magisterial Foundation
• LIGHTLINES: Transcribing the Lightline continue, the beginning of all Lightline in the early 1990s, western transmitters have to align with the Magisterial Foundation for international outreach, Sunday Lightline is the focal point of the Lightline, all others are very important.
• The collision of a freighter with one of the supports of the Baltimore Bridge
• the coming UAI conference is the last one for them
• threat to talk about the intervention of Magisterial Sons into national governments

3. Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Arthura, Machiventa Melchizedek, Abraham, Universal Father, Mantutia Melchizedek, Trinity
4. Transcribed by: sonsofGod
5. Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240326_110218
 
 
Dominick
Welcome to Tuesday Lightline everybody, today is March 26, and this follows a schedule of Lightlines Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. Say a quick prayer individually and together to Father for a good Lightline.

All right, just so you get a picture today I'm standing up during the Lightline, and I had to, because of audio difficulties call it in on my cell phone, which is on this podium or lectern that I'm speaking from at Michael's request. I chuckled because it's a little bit abnormal from my normal sitting down, and maybe closing my eyes. But if you hear shuffling, that's just my papers on the podium or knees shuffling around in general among the sound and standing up giving the Lightline today. And for those listening on the call, we appreciate it. If you hear the bells of people coming in and out of the call, and we've had a bit of audio difficulty today, so just bear with it if it happens.

Do we have anybody on the celestial, spiritual, or other side of the veil so to speak, that I'd like to lead the Lightline today, or come in and get us going?
 
Michael of Nebadon
Thank you, Dominick, this is Michael of Nebadon. I want to make it known that transcriptions are only necessary for Sunday. And those are to be exact, but if you who transcribed wish to keep doing it, you're quite welcome to. However, those that are accustomed to reading, the transcripts are always warned, it is not an exact transcription, nor the flavor or nuance of my voice that might come through when you are to listen. You should easily just understand no one really reads the transcripts of the news. And likewise, are you discouraged from reading the transcripts as your sole purpose of keeping up with these Lightlines? You should listen. There's all sorts of reasons to do so, but when we serve a meal, we ask that you enter the venue. We are strange to resources on this limited amount of helpers to constantly serve you via delivery, and then have that meal be not the complete service that you would have received had you come to us in our venue, which is defined as you listening to the Lightline.

Now that we are done with that subject, I continue as Michael of Nebadon. Where do we begin? I came through to this transmitter this morning with a couple of phrases and words. The Lightline is not your Lightline, I told him. This is true of all Lightlines and transmitters. You are serving through your capacities, your vocabulary, and we utilize that.

We started off with the phrase, what's the difference between the Prince of Peace and the Denver Airport? Well, nothing. It’s beyond your imaginations. Yet you, mean you children of Urantia you call upon God, but I tell you, you are responsible for your own households. Even the babies in the bed, the birds, they cry for their share. They are conditioned from an unconsciousness to a behavior pattern in the environment, which also conditions them and yet you have free will. And you weigh meanings and values and you have seed your will, to the unknown for the simple reason, it's easier to do.

A new culture will emerge when I am known and accepted. And frankly not even that much at first, in my acceptance, but I assure you I will be known. Now, social engineering is a fact, this occurs with or without me. It is almost the nature of man and its organizational authority, but it is also a natural way of life. Not only is there social convention, but there is, by those who are in authority, social engineering. To that effect, we are making some of the following announcements.

I will outline the pillars of social engineering that must be done. They are the following and they will number five, but they are not the total. And they are not necessarily in any order of priority. They're all, you could say, equal.

• the economy and the environment
• energy and labor
• government and military
• education and family
• purpose and meaning

These pillars of social engineering will be headed by Magisterial Sons who will take on, possibly, the title of Magisterial Ministers. In other words, the Magisterial Minister of economy and environment, and so on.

Now, when it comes to Missions, we have a difficulty on Urantia, on this planet, given its status and age and development, at a headquarters of, and ambassadors to whom those headquarters are in a conundrum that there is no available sovereign land to claim. There is no real estate available to organize ourselves like before. The Planetary Prince landed, organized its own area of ideal choosing, and got to work. Likewise to the Missions of the garden. And today, we find difficulty in claiming any proper land to occupy and work with you and for you, but no sovereign land of our own. No sovereign lands that would work for the Missions anyhow. Of course, we could go to Antarctica, but there would be no reason feasibly to do so. This is just one reason why something like these foundations set up has been outlined, are useful.

Now, moving on, I have more announcements. Not only will there be these ministers of social engineering on the following pillars, but we may introduce the division of anthropology and archaeology. I want to place in your imaginations a group akin to the Pleiadians who would work in liaison with you in such an endeavor. Which gets me to my next announcement, which would be an introductory interplanetary exchange brokered by Salvington. This would fall under the auspices of a Michael Mission. Another such Mission of immediate priority is the disarmament of weapons of mass destruction.

So to summarize, you might see an announcement of Michael and Salvington and Magisterial Missions being known with the outline of not claiming sovereign land, but having to work within the boundaries of nation states, who are cede some of their sovereignty to My Ambassadors and allow them to be embedded into the state apparatus to help with the social engineering of the economy and environment, energy and labor, government and military, education and family, and purpose and meaning. Now, you shouldn't have an inkling, but a good curiosity about what this last one means, purpose and meaning, which, of course will entail all sorts of known social scientists, so to speak of philosophy, science, religion, without claiming one with authority over the other. Science of course, pertains to all of those and does not contain its own social engineering ambassador or minister. Science is the benefit of cooperation and fearless research without reprisals from authority, seeking to maintain its status at the expense of scientific progress.

And so, this is Michael of Nebadon, and I conclude the formal aspects of our Lightline today. And I hang them, or give the platform over to Arthura. I'm Michael of Nebadon, and I've spoken and I wish you all a good day.

Dominick
Thank you, Michael, and welcome, Arthura.

Arthura
This is Arthura ladies and gentlemen. At this point, you are welcome to press 5 * as we have Michael's precious time while he is here, or possibly a staff, if he is indisposed to speak to what has just been announced. I'm Arthura today now with this transmitter, and with a slight expectation that today's Lightline if there's nothing further afterwards, might be truncated a bit. But that, nonetheless, these announcements are a little bit major, and they came through just now this morning,

But what I, Arthura, wish to present is some definition about what to expect, anticipate, and prepare for, and what those things should mean to you, when I say those words, anticipate, prepare and expect. So, what do they mean? And how do they relate to Revelation, and Missions, and Bestowals? And this will help us understand the question is around what, who, and when, and under what conditions do things get covered? 

So, we'll start with anticipation, and anticipation has a corollary or a corresponding thing. And I interrupt this to acknowledge, Lemuel, you've got your hand raised. We will come to you after these brief comments.

So one, anticipation as a corollary, or rather for simplicity's sake, we'll just say correlates to the word presumption, that expectation correlates to the word assumption, but that preparation correlates to the word consummation. So, when you anticipate something you have a presumption about those anticipations. And the nuances that anticipation is a little bit different than expectation. And that you could expect things but that it is based on assumptions of fact. Whereas anticipation you might presume to take on a little more than just matters of fact, but that you presume to take on status and authority. And what separates anticipation and expectation, and presumption and assumption is that when you are in preparation, preparation might entail anticipation and expectation, but preparation not only assumes and presumes a consequence or the fruits of your actions, your creations, and your faith, to consummate into something of substance. And we will leave it at that for a moment.

Dominick
We're going to check in with you, Lemuel. You're unmuted Lemuel. do you have a question or a transmission?

Lemuel
No, I have a question regarding the five (short cough) excuse me, the five parts of what you termed as social engineering. And would it be right to interpret this as similar to five governmentments each having its own ministry?

Dominick
Yes, I think so. Given the title of ministers. We don't have that in the States, but I believe most titles are similar to ministers when you go out into the rest of the world.

Lemuel
Yeah.

Dominick
So, is that's ... was that a minor clarification you wanted, or do you want something in more detail?

Lemuel
No, well, and also that all would be coming from Salvington, correct?

Dominick
There is a..., there is mention of Salvington. You're not wrong or incorrect, but you're not entirely a...

Lemuel
Alright. I understand, I understand Dominick,

Dominick
Let me just ..

Lemuel
What's missing I think is the mention of the Dominion. There's no mention of the Dominion in this. Only pertaining to Urantia, really.

Dominick
Well, it's..., it's not all encompassing either, these are just some Urantia specific  announcements. So what makes you consider that Dominion should be mentioned? Maybe you have something I hadn't pick up.

Lemuel
Well, I don't know whether it was a brief transmission from someone that mentioned the Dominion the..., the effect or not, what would be called a domino effect of the Missions taking place here on Urantia would have presumably some kind of a domino effect throughout a..., for the Dominion. Is this, would this be a wrong assumption? Would they, would they not be affected at all?

Dominick
My thought is, if you, if we understand Dominion that is true, Lemuel. And let me take a page out of Ron's protocol and first bump it up to to Ron, and maybe Ron bumps it up to Michael or higher authority. Ron, you're unmuted. Did you hear Lemuel, Lemuel’s question up till now?

Ron Besser
I did. I've got several things I would like to comment on. I am not sure quite how I am or what our Lightline equipment is.In the middle of what I consider might be a dilution of the Lightline without sufficient transcripts. That's another question. That's not what he's asking.about,but I'm concerned about that.

Michael of Nebadon
This is Michael of Nebadon, Ron, you are sitting there. Quite sure something is off kilter.

Ron Besser
Dominick, and to the rest of you. I'm not at peace with some of this. And that may be just because I haven't heard it before. I am not making accusations. But I am saying that we dare not dilute our policy to present transcripts of all Lightlines if we can do it. No, they aren't as important as they once were, but they are still established with a readership that doesn't necessarily speak English to hear it. They need to read it. That's all I need to say about it. With regard, what is the central question that Dominick or rather that Lemuel is asking Dominick, can you rephrase it for me?

Lemuel
Yeah. Would you allow me to? Would you allow me to rephrase it?

Ron Besser
Well, if it's clear, Lemuel. It's not clear to me. Go ahead.

Lemuel
All right. All right. The first part of the question was the social engineering as it is referred to, and there's a beginning list of five, and there are more obviously, as mentioned by Dominick. These are similar, are they not, to five departments or ministries in a normal government? And would each of these have that individual ministry. This is one thing. And the other thing ...

Ron Besser
Let me answer that right now, Lemuel.

Lemuel
All right. OK.

Ron Besser
It is simple. Yes. Go ahead.

Lemuel
Okay, well, thank you for that. The other thing was, of course, that came to me, where is ...? There is no mention of the Dominion. So, what I am asking is ...

Ron Besser
Well, yeah. Well, let's ...

Lemuel
Will there be no...? All right, go ahead. Go ahead, Ron. 

Ron Besser
Let me redefine Dominion for you. The inference has been and that's what you're picking up on, is that they are sharing some of the conditions that this a... Magisterial Bestowal, the Missions themselves, have some germane importance to the Dominion. That is true. But I sincerely doubt that right now, today, March the 26th, that they have any direct influence on either the Magisterial Sons or to Urantia, or through the auspices of the Dominion administration. It's too far undefined so far, Lemuel, to say what their part is, and what is happening for Urantia.I am sure that they would rather speak to this than me trying to cover all the bases.

Lemuel
Yes.

Ron Besser
But remember this Dom... ah, Lemuel. Dominion is not part of Nebadon administration to Urantia. Just clear that for now. But number two, they have taken a great interest because Michael of Nebadon is using the latest Paradise administrative concerns for one of the first Planetary Missions they have used since the death of the supreme. Now, it covers so much information, Lemuel, you've got bits and pieces. You don't have all of it, and neither do I, Ron, but I do know enough that the Dominion is a set aside interest that is allowed to view and participate for meaning and understanding of the new rules from Paradise on how to conduct a Planetary Mission with the absence of the supreme. That is essentially, I believe, what is operating and is so difficult for Michael to explain, for the Dominion to know exactly where it is founded in all this.

And finally this. The Magisterial Foundation in presenting these Lightlines, rather not get into the arguments that are pertaining between the various factions that help present Planetary Missions, as we are about to understand them. I more or less come back to you, Dominick. That is kind of the rule about how we can answer someone like Lamuel, answering a very pertinent question, but without a very pertinent answer. Go ahead, Dominick, if you have a comment.

Dominick
Yeah. To explain it to someone who doesn't know about Dominion Lemuel, it's kind of like advanced stuff for anyone who hasn't encountered all this information before.

Lemuel
Yeah, I understand. Yeah.

Dominick
So, to answer your question, of course, it pertains to the Dominion, but it need not be spoken to and outlined, for our understanding.

Lemuel
Yeah. Okay. Dominick, thank you very much, indeed. And thank you, Ron, thank you so much. Thank you.

Ron Besser
Oh, you're quite welcome. Go ahead, Dominick.

Dominick
All right. I'm gonna mute both of you. Thank you for contributing. All right. Go ahead, Arthura. Was there anything? Shall we continue?

Arthura
Yes, this is Arthura. I was giving a rather confusing monologue about anticipation, preparation and expectation. But what I really want to talk about is the fact that you have these things of anticipation, preparation and expectation, that pertain to the distills, which are defined as the pre-Bestowal, the actual Bestowal, the Second Return, and a post Bestowal.

So, you have a very fragile rope tethered to these things with the fifth epochal revelation that nonetheless educates through the book what these are, and clarifies the pre-Bestowal, and The Bestowal, discusses the Second Return, and outlines a post Bestowal destiny. And also, a normal plan of what typical planets go through, and how the universe administrates these things. But that in doing so, we unwittingly have created a situation where the custodians of a fifth epochal revelation have presumed to be the de facto authority over all of these things, and that they will be asked to cooperate when these Missions actually land.

So we talked about epochal revelation, but we also talked about and remind you about Planetary Missions, smaller Missions within those Missions. There's a smaller Missions happening all the time. And then not only is there epochal revelation, but there is periodic revelation, and there is personal revelation. But that there are also things to brush up upon, such as dispensations, and roll calls.

So the net takeaway is that you need not pieced together all of what I've just said in a coherent message. Other than this, you should take away the understanding that you humans are not in control when we appear. And that you're not even in control now, but that you have, when you are presuming to be in control, assuming you are in control, and you're doing very human things, as guiding your own expectation, and your authority over what to even anticipate. And what gets lost is your actual preparation for concentrating when we do appear. And so, I urge you to understand that preparation is the most difficult and most unknown to your experiences. And to be gentle on those who are preparing for our consummation of arrival.I am Arthura, and I'm out.

Dominick
Thank you, Arthura.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa, I wish you to go to Ron.

Dominick
Oh, all right, Machiventa. Ron, you're unmuted. I got, I got cut off abruptly.

Ron Besser
Okay. Dominick. Machiventa, you are speaking?

Machiventa Melchizedek
Yes.

Ron Besser
What would you have us say?

Machiventa Melchizedek
Beautifully stated, Ron. It's this. You have detailed a certain element I didn't want particularly known. But now that you have, you are remained into place as the Magisterial Foundation spokesman. I never heard anyone unknot a problem like you just did. You are familiar that Dominick is a relatively new transmitter. And as a result, moving between subjects transmitting to him can be a rough exchange, and something gets lost in the transmission. You have made sure that nothing is lost, and make sure, please what you wish to state for the Magisterial Foundation.

Ron Besser
Well, thank you Machiventa for the time to do that. It is only this to remind everybody listening to this, as well as the discussion forum, as well as regards to our own policy to work with the pending Missions, the Magisterial Sons, Michael, and Jesus Christ. I want it to be known that until we are directly ordered to do something that we will continue with our policy of making full transcripts of all Lightlines without favor to Sunday.

Now Sunday Lightline is with the oldest transmitter. I have been transmitting since about 2005. The rest of you are much later than that, because there was no venue to have other transmitters join in a Lightline schedule. For your information, the term Lightline is quite old. It goes back into the mid 1990s when Michael suggested that they learn to transmit, and speak the lessons aloud so that others could hear them and react to them. Beginning about 1992, the first transmissions were produced at a conference in California. That 1992 appearance of a Lightline production through Abraham has set the record ever since. And that's what we copy. That's what we use as our pattern.

Abraham
This is Abraham, Ron. Thank you. Thank you so much, Ron, for bringing this out. Lightline schedules are not meant to be overpowering. I'm Abraham of old. Ron is correct. In 1992, we appeared at a conference in California. And for that reason, we have to this day maintain the pattern. Ron uses it well, as do others who do the Lightlines here.
But let me please, please remind you that there are those copying the Lightline schedules and the means to produce it as a pattern of communication out west. As a matter of fact, they are old transmitters under the old teaching mission. Ron thinks they do fine. Machiventa speaks clearly, but the fact of the matter is, those individuals refuse to cooperate into a unity to make the Lightline an international affair.

Ron Besser
They are preventing it again folks. And they must be reprimanded if they continue. That is Bob Devin, Mr. Mason, Mr. Rogers, and several others who believe they are chief of their own departments.

Machiventa Melchizedek
I remind you Ron, this has not carefully spoken, but there are now two factions operating with Lightlines. I will not have it and I will see to it that you, Ron, are available to unify.

Ron Besser
We wish to do so Machiventa, but they do not even respond. You know that. Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you for the quip. And now this to you, Ron. You are sitting with quite a bit of pain and are almost unconscious without forcing your mind to to take the construction of language to speak this way. You have done extremely well. You have said set a pattern for Uversa to understand that until you are overruled the Magisterial Foundation maintains the transcript policy for Lightlines. Don't change it. Michael is saying, you have the freedom if you wish to not to bother with transcripts. But Ron says, those who do not speak English or have the time to listen to a Lightline on the phone depend on the English transmission in transcript form, and they must not change. That's to you Valerie and to you Raz in particular.

And finally this, Ron. You are not entirely happy with the idea that the Magisterial Foundation is totally under our control.

Ron Besser
Yes, Machiventa. It is my supreme wish that the Melchizedeks maintain control and the discipline required to be an agency of the proposed Missions. The Magisterial Foundation cannot do it without you, please. I am fully under your authority and Mantutia, and Manituba, regarding our behavior and what we do and cannot do. I pledge fidelity to Michael and to the Melchizedeks, who act in his name. I am not a free agent. I'm not a loose cannon. But let me use a seriously vernacular word. I am grandly pissed off at what this behavior of the past teaching mission and its inability to get over ego. I appeal to you Machiventa, who maintains control with them and us, to somehow indicate, as you please, that if there is no unity of standing, there will be consequences.
The Magisterial Foundation will insist until we are told otherwise to provide Lightlines with our wonderful transmitters. It's not easy folks.

And finally, to this, and to you, Michael. We stand in full Legion to the Melchizedek instructions and control. We abide with your Mission as you may direct, but unless there is a direct order to cease transcriptions for Lightlines, and all of them, Valerie, Raz, and the others who attempt to do so, please continue until further notice. Transcripts are too important not to produce. I now humbly resubmit this to you Machiventa, please go ahead. 

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you, Ron. This is Machiventa Melchizedek. The flurry of activity around you has ceased. You are not happy to dilute the outreach you must have with the spoken word. 

Ron Besser
Machiventa, this is Ron. It is the only policy that allows distribution of a verbal content that is so important not only from Salvington, but from Paradise as well. All of them feel free to contact us and through our transmitters. We consider it a great gift and not routine. I insist as one who holds the gift that we maintain the liaison and the loyalty to your words as directly presented through these Lightlines. Please go ahead, Machiventa. 

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you. I will never be sure Ron that you aren't a Melchizedek already. I am quite sure that the pain and suffering you're going through in months of this retribution that there is nothing left for you to do other than to maintain the Magisterial Foundation, the discussion forum and the Lightlines. You are glad to modify as Michael decrees and as we may suggest. You are not a loose cannon. But I am guaranteeing that shortly the Western transmitters as you call that group will learn that you are open to unify their service without being their administration. They are welcome to their own corporations and doing, but that they make use of the Lightlines through the Magisterial Foundation weekly. If they can't manage it, they are not to transmit. That is my degree. 

Ron Besser 
I'm most grateful. It helps me a lot, my thinking, Machiventa. Now I turn this entirely back to you. 

Michael of Nebadon
Thank you, Ron. This is Michael of Nebadon, Ron. You are mature Melchizedek in those sayings. I have never heard a human discuss this so plainly. The truth of the matter is the Sunday Lightline is the focal point of the Lightline. But Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday Lightlines are very, very important. Elise, Lemuel, Dominick and any other transmitter who wishes to join the schedules for the Magisterial Foundation Lightline presentations are most welcome. Valerie, Raz, you continue making the transcripts, please. You fulfill a tremendously important measure to maintain. 

I am Michael of Nebadon. Dominick, I will turn this back to you shortly. But let Michael have this say. Ron has been goaded for the past four days with an unrelenting cabal. They scratch him, they puncture him, they cause unremitting pain.
And finally, this, you, Ron are not going to die and leave it all. The truth of the matter is, you are beginning to feel better. And make sure you maintain a regular schedule. You have done so, you and Dominick do well to discuss this every evening in your home, where I tell you what I want. Gabriel tells you, Arthura tells you, and all other beings from Paradise. And Uversa make use of it. You enjoy it and welcome us. 

Ron Besser
Oh we do Sir. I would be well, naked, that's how it would feel. No protection from the winds of the cabal or the changes this Mission suggests. It's cold. It's hard. And we depend on you, Michael. To Arthura, thank you for your service. And to all others who help. We are grateful. That's all I can say. We have nothing more than to produce what you allow us. Thank you.

Universal Father
This is Father. I did not intend to speak today. I'm too busy. But Ron, you have made your temper available to us, and it's quite a temper. There are those on this discussion forum right now listening to this transcription of my voice. We decided to do it today particularly because Dominick was doing it and he is a close ally of yours, and the planning. 

You looked at the Baltimore News this morning. A freighter collided with one of the supports to the Baltimore bridge. You traveled across it. 

Ron Besser
Yes, folks, it's miles long, and over the wide expanse of the Chesapeake Bay. It's pretty scary in the middle of it. You don't see land. That's how long that bridge is. And wouldn't you know it, a guide on that freighter fell asleep at the wheel. That spirit’s review. He collided with one of the main supports, and the bridge is not usable in certain areas.

Universal Father 
As a consequence, we believe, the maritime order over that freighter will arrest them. Now let me go on to something more germane to us. The truth of the matter is that you wish to attend this conference, Ron, but are too ill, you can't stand long. And for that reason, we acquiesce. If you accompany Dominick to the opening remarks of the UAI, you would stand up and dictate the following words:

To the organizers of this conference, you are being reminded that you are under the auspices of Paradise and the rule of the Paradise Father. We acquiesce, says Paradise, with this conference. But you are actually coming to the end of your conferences with this one. There are Paradise Missions about to appear. And you must unify under one human approbation to unify your support and behave as humans under the laws and guidance of a mercy mission to Urantia. You're dying. That's the problem. As a final remark from Father, it's this. Please do not misunderstand. We are not here for mercy. We are here to correct. It's correction. It is not mercy. You don't deserve mercy. 

And finally, this to you Ron, you are one of the stern ones. Thank God. You know enough to set the records straight, but you do not do it for the simple reason that the Urantia Foundation and Fellowship cannot maintain discipline or structure without having current spiritual information available, and they refuse it categorically. You say fine. 

Ron Besser 
Our audience, our true audience, ladies and gentlemen, is not Urantia book readers. 

Universal Father
It's the regular uninformed population that will become not the readership, but the announcements of the proposed Missions to Urantia within months. Already the incarnations are beginning. There are 32 incarnated Melchizedeks as we speak. There will be 16 more. 

And I want you to understand please, I'm not yelling at you this audience. But please understand, your life could be under threat if you jabber too much. Keep it to yourself until we tell you it's safe to speak to. To speak to what? The intervention of Magisterial Sons into national governments, so that they may learn a wise way of governing. Urantia is in for big trouble. Its tectonic plates are not steady, it's too old. 

And finally, this. We're about to turn this back to you, Dominick. But before we do, please understand your loyalty and care for Ron is deeply appreciated by spirit. You've helped him tremendously. He is also seen to it that the property that eventually goes to the Magisterial Foundation, you become the heir of that property first, so that you can make an orderly transition of 2709 Sunset Lane and the Magisterial Foundation and its six subsidiaries entirely to the Melchizedeks, when they are ready to receive. I stand back for Mantutia, Planetary Prince. 

Mantutia Melchizedek.
I am Mantutia Melchizedek. I left the Urantia Foundation in the early 1940s to remind them that they are to receive the authority to present the fifth epochal revelation. I have never relented in seeing to it that they are maintained and that sufficient donations become available to distribute and print more of the fifth epochal revelation. Ron has taken, taken on the ability to reform. That's all he asked to do. But what's the first response? You're nobody. We don't talk to nobody. There is nothing to speak to. Ron, you are on your own. We do not listen. As a consequence, Michael Nebadon said to Ron, build a corporation. We will do epochal revelation through it. And if necessary, if necessary, we will transfer authority to you through the Magisterial Foundation, or whatever you choose to call it. They are deaf. They're corporations. They do not listen. 

Michael of Nebadon 
In finality, let it be known than, this is Michael of Nebadon. We decree that the authority of the Magisterial Foundation is not renounced, but you are going to be reduced in what work you do do. I will have a formal announcement to the Magisterial Foundation on May 12 of this year. I will have a formal announcement to the Urantia Foundation and the Brotherhood, as the Fellowship now, on May 5 2024. We have not yet determined in what manner

And finally this. I am Michael of Nebadon, Ron, and you shall live long enough to see to it that Margul is the next Son in charge. 

Ron Besser 
Oh, good grief.

Michael of Nebadon 
(laughing) Yes, Ron. 

Ron Besser
Well, well, Margot be alive yet. 

Michael of Nebadon
Yes, yes, he will. 

Ron Besser 
Well, that should please the Trinity. Thank you. 

The Trinity
I am also pleased to say, this is the Trinity, Ron. You are not an idiot, but you leaven these announcements so well, we are at comfort with what they say. Thank you, Ron. And Dominick, we now turn this back to you to conclude this Lightline. Go ahead, 
Dominick, you're on.

Dominick
All right. Thank you, Ron. I am muting you, just for noise. And thank you Machiventa, (Abraham) Manituba, Father. Mantutia, (Trinity) and Michael. All right, that concludes today's Lightline. Stay tuned for tomorrow. Lemuel, you're unmuted. Let's see. Let's try. How are you, how are we for tomorrow?

Lemuel
Yes, fine. Full steam ahead tomorrow.

Dominick
Excellent. Okay. Sorry, I muted you. Anyhow, that's today's Lightline. Thanks everyone for attending. We have 16 on the call and I know we have more than that listening. So all of you who are paired up and listening in at two or more, we appreciate you. And have a good day everybody.
 
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