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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: November 14, 2024, 10:00:44 am »

• 111224 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise Sophia Veronica
• Subjects: a review of Machiventa Monday transmissions through Mission Urantia, Machiventa’s previous words to Mission Urantia about the necessity of cooperation, and Love - it is the greatest gift from God;
• Speakers: Jesus; 
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20241112_110103 

Elise  
Hello everyone, this is the Lightline Netherlands International. It's November 12, 2024, and this is Elise, your host on the Lightline Netherlands International, on Tuesday, November 12, 2024. I have decided to open the Lightline despite the closed circuits, as you saw last Sunday with Dominick's and Rene's Lightlines. But we would like to inform you about the decision we made to try to get to know and to get more acquainted with other organizations and to maybe get involved in our mutual goal and work in the disseminating of the messages and revelations as we have received them over the years, and how to get all that important information and the knowledge about God in us as our Thought Adjuster to the people of Urantia who are obviously in need of such knowledge.

So that made me decide to go on this day, Tuesday. But let's start with a prayer and thank our Father. Dear Father, we are gathered here again to be with you and to maybe, if possible, to hear your voice. We welcome all those who have taken the time to be with us. We're glad that Ron, may be here, and I hope that he will get all the blessings you have, Father for him to recover and to go where he has to go and what he has to do. We have come together to share our love for you, Father, for Christ Michael, for Jesus, of course, for the Melchizedeks and Magisterial Sons and all Your divine associates who we know are with us in all our sorrow and happiness, and who keep giving us their blessings. We thank You, Father, for the gift of life and for the opportunity to show that our lives are for You, while trying to assist and attend to our brothers and sisters in their material and spiritual need and to speak Your name in honor of You, Father, thank you so much. Thank you, Father.

So this is Elise. I wanted, I just wanted to inform you a little about something that you have read, maybe on the discussion forum yesterday, when we attended a meeting of Mission Urantia, which is an organization, with a few of our members. Mission Urantia is an association or organization, I don't know how they call themselves, founded by people with the purpose of reaching the population and to make them aware of God and the Spirit of the Universal Father who lives within us. And they do so by trying, as they say, and these are their words, to assert and embody the Presence of Spirit, which is the Thought Adjuster, into the affairs of mankind by preserving, promoting, and implementing the teachings of the Urantia Book and the lessons and values of the teaching mission and the Magisterial mission.

And this is Elise again, with my own words. These people we talked with, they all have a good knowledge of The Urantia Book. They have often participated in study groups and some of them have been part of the Teaching Mission, and some of them know many of you maybe, they know Ron Besser, and what they want is to preserve and pass on all these valuable lessons to others and for other generations to come. And with this, we think, and they think, that collaboration is the best way to help spread this knowledge and to better understand the value and content of The Urantia Book and to live by the lessons that are given to us through The Urantia Book and all other ways, as the Correction Time followed by the Teaching Mission, and, of course, the many, many transmissions by others and through Ron Besser as the number one transmitter of revelation, the Magisterial Foundation, as founded by Ron Besser, has much to offer, and Ron has always been very supportive of this idea.

Ron has always shared all information openly by sending emails and invitations to sister organizations, and by openly discussing the news and and revelations in his Lightlines. So some of us came together with these friendly people at the Mission Urantia meeting to see how we can communicate and cooperate better to reach more people, but especially to promote cooperation between the organizations. We all have one goal in mind, and that's to make everyone realize that God lives in us as a fragment of Himself and that He leads us to our common goal, to reach Him, the Father, after finishing our ascension careers. There were four of us present, and we exchanged some information, we introduced ourselves, and Dominick spoke briefly about the invention of free electricity, the electrons, and muons, etc, and how it works. Well, he gave he gave them a good picture, and he told them about Rayson, the Magisterial Son, who has worked with Ron.

He Dominick, told them about the patent that has given Ron the right to go ahead and to make plans and eventually go into production. And I think that they found it a very interesting thing. Well, they refer to it as to what The Urantia Book tells us about science and ultimatons. Well, I think Ron has always endeavored to involve every organization in all that he has done and in all that he has received, and well, I think we hope to have found in this group, a cooperative partner, maybe in disseminating our findings, our goals, and our knowledge, and making these things useful to the people of Urantia, and at the same time assisting each other in achieving that common goal. Well, this is more or less what we have done, what we experienced and perhaps there are people in this group today who would like to respond or say anything to this, or maybe you have any questions, or maybe we have an addition from Dominick or the others who attended also?

Okay. Then I also wanted to say that this group is working under the guidance of Machiventa Melchizedek, and although it were not the words that He spoke yesterday, Machiventa only spoke briefly in the introduction in the beginning, but I have here something that Machiventa Melchizedek spoke some time ago to that group to help them in their search of how to work together and with the best ideas to get their goals achieved. And maybe you'll get the idea of what Spirit likes to say, and what they like to see us do as well. So I'm going to read this. It's not my, it's not a transmission that I'm doing, but it's something that Machiventa spoke to the other group, and it could be very helpful. And it's this:

Machiventa said; "We must find a way to work together in a collective manner that brings the awareness of a global planetary administration to this world, and it lets them know that there is a plan, a plan for each personally, and a plan for humanity collectively. The key to this plan is each individual being willing to put the effort in to make this living connection with the First Source and Center and allow themselves to be transformed by the power of this living connection. Because out of that transformation will come the collective willingness to move beyond individual differences, individual personal agendas, individual egos, and find a way to put the good of the whole ahead of the good of any one individual.

Machiventa went on to say; the key to this plan is each individual being willing and try everything. When I talk about the First Source and Center as your connection, I talk about your Adjuster, as you probably understand, we need all that collective work. Ask yourself how you can plug into doing everything within your power to guarantee its success. Talk about among each other how to pool your energy and how to support one another, because right now, no one has a vision big enough to encompass how you would take this period of a remarkable revelation to this world, or how to approach the people. How are you going to be of assistance to each other? These are all questions you may consider and find solutions for in your own soul. Speak to your Adjuster and ask for assistance and insight, ask for support and wisdom. For this is an enormous task that humanity has to work out, and where We can only help you by answering your questions and your concerns that you meet on the way while doing your very best to learn from each other's mistakes and not lose hope for a better outcome. Well, this is the end of the quote.

Now, of course, this was spoken to this group, this is Elise speaking now, but I think that it applies also to us as well. For this is general information for those who understand and like to work with Spirit, in cooperation with spirit, and for the benefit of our planet and its people. So I wanted to give that to you. Well, this is what I have for today, and I will see now if we can get any connection to Spirit. So please give me a minute for that.

Jesus  
Good day to all. This is your Jesus. And although circuits are low, I always know how to come to your group and give My love to you. I bring you My love. That's the only thing I would like to speak about today. Love, it is the greatest gift from God. Love is God. God is love. God reveals His love in everything that comes from Him, and everything is and comes from Him, in all and everything we can find His love. And it is up to you to discover and learn to feel God's love and to apply it in your life with others, who then again, pass on your love to those they meet in their lives, and which gives them all the strength to cope with life and to manifest love in everything you do.

I am Jesus, and in my life, in this world, I have conveyed the love of our Father, our God, to everyone I met. The love of Father was represented in Me as I carried not only an actual fragment of God, the Father within me, as the Adjuster, but also the divine attribute and character of Michael of Nebadon who shared this life with Me and dwelt within Me as the great secret and wonder of God who is alive and truly present in man. Yes, this is what happens when a Son of God, a Creator Son, decides to incarnate to enter a human body and experience a human life as present within a human being.

This is the secret of the Father, the secret of Sonarington, a sphere which surrounds Paradise and is intended for such a process that is realized and accomplished by a divine act in which the Creator Son temporarily leaves His local universe and literally resides in the body of one of His created intellectual beings of His universe for the purpose of experiencing and fully understanding His children in their existence. This is the greatest love that only a divine Creator Son can have for His creatures and for His creation. It demonstrates the paternal sacrifice of the Creator's loving act, His love surpasses everything, everything you know and experience in love here on Earth. It is the pure expression of divine love and can only be felt when man has fully connected himself with God. A state that will take place when man unites with his Creator after his many experiences in the journey through life where he has learned that love is the greatest gift and greatest benefactor, and that man can only come to God in love as God himself is love. This is Jesus. I have spoken as your friend, as your brother, as your teacher, as the Son of God and the Son of Man. I leave you in My love and I bless you. Good day.

Elise  
I thank you, Jesus. Thank you very, very much. I see that Dominick has raised his hand, and I'm going to unmute you, Dominick. Yes, go ahead, Dominick, are you there? Lemuel, I unmuted, Lemuel?

Lemuel  
Thank you, Elise.

Elise  
Don't tell me that it is not working.

Lemuel  
Yes, it is. Yes.

Elise  
Oh yes, I hear you all right.

Lemuel  
I want to say, first of all, the words of Machiventa Melchizedek are so true and worthy of repeating so many times because they are so true and so pertinent at this moment in our history, and also the wonderful words that we have just heard from Jesus. Love simply is, and there is no place without love if one is able to see it and to be able to see it, one only has to look but to look with your inner eyes and not your outer eyes. And I would just like to say, I am reminded constantly from my own beloved indwelling, that love that we have within ourselves is like, like the flame of a candle, you know?

We all know that a candle can also light 1000 other candles, and yet it maintains its own light and its own heat. It doesn't matter if that flame of just one single candle lights a million other candles, its own light is never depleted. Well, this obviously is love in action, and we all have this light within us, and we only have to express it by being what we are. We are children of our Creator Father, Michael of Nebadon, as Jesus expressed throughout his life. Well, we are not Jesus, of course, but we are able to use Him as our inspiration and example of what is possible. Let our light shine and spread it wherever and wherever we go. That's all I have to say, thank you, Elise, thank you.

Elise  
Thank you, Lemuel, really true. And you've taught us the same all over again, many times, really true. And that's the words spoken there by Machiventa, they, well, they really catch me and I think it was so beautiful to read that to everyone here. And of course, well the words that Jesus came to tell us are very moving, and I'm so glad that He could come here. And thank you for doing that, Lemuel, because it's so appropriate to do it now. Thank you so much.

Lemuel  
Thank you, Elise, thank you.

Elise  
Okay. I muted you again. I see that you did. You did raise your hand again, Lemuel, did you? Hi, Elise, are you unmuting yourself? Okay, mute yourself. Okay, mute yourself. Go ahead, please. I won't interfere. Thank you. Dominick, you are unmuted, or were you going to say anything? Or was it just by accident? I think you probably, we probably lost you. I have no idea. Well, I don't think there is anything else today to say on this Lightline. And I think we had really beautiful words spoken to us, at least not directly spoken to us by Machiventa, but they just appeal to us just as much, and they're beautiful and wonderful and worth to well, to have them on the discussion forum, we can do that because it's for everyone, and not only for the people who are here gathered.

So if there is nothing else, well, I'm just want to close this Lightline. I have nothing else, and I see no hands up, and I just, well, let me thank you for being here. We have a whole list of people here, and that's so good to see, because I, we all knew, know that the circuits are down for most of of the time, and we don't know when everything will be back to normal, but it's much better to wait and have it all restored than to just struggle along. So thank you for being here, and goodbye to everyone. I don't know if we have a Lightline next week. Let's just see how everything works and goes. Have a good day and enjoy yourselves.

Dominick  
Hey, Elise.

Elise  
Yes, are you there, Dominick?

Dominick  
Yeah, I had the family come in, so I stepped away if you asked if I was around.

Elise  
Oh, okay.

Dominick  
Yeah, when you do unmute everybody who's listening, say hello to Ron. he's right here you want to mumble or shout or something,

Elise  
I will unmute everyone then, okay, so take your turn. Don't shout altogether.

Dominick  
Let Ron, let Ron say a few things first, he's got the mic.

Elise  
Okay. And then I'll let you and I'll give you the time, I'll give you a little time to say goodbye or hello to him. Okay, unmute him all. Wait, wait, wait, I will stop the recording. Should I? Yes.

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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: November 05, 2024, 18:23:57 pm »

• 110424 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise Sophia Veronica
• Subjects: continue active Serara Forum involvement, continue to listen for Spirit and to your Thought Adjuster, the Federation (Dominion) has been disbanded as not needed currently but may be reinstated if required for the future;
• Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Universal Father, and Machiventa Melchizedek;
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20241104_110225

Elise  
Well, hello, everyone. After a lot of problems, I got a connection. This is Netherlands International Lightline for Monday, November 4, 2024, and this is Elise your host. I welcome everyone, and I thank you for joining. Well, let's stay together and strengthen our efforts to bring our friends from the spirit world closer to us, maybe we will hear some words from the other side.

Let's pray to Father for his grace and blessings on us and on the world that needs guidance and spiritual nourishment as it pursues the one great goal of ending all misunderstanding, exploitation, hatred, and war and in bringing peace to all nations. We thank You, Father, for all those of Your great heavenly family whom You send to us to help us find truth, beauty, and goodness in all that You have created. We welcome any guest or teacher who would like to address this group today.

Michael of Nebadon  
Good evening and good day to our listeners. This is Michael of Nebadon.

Elise  
Welcome, Michael. I'm so happy you're there. Please speak. You're very welcome.

Michael of Nebadon  
Well, thank you. Thank you, Elise. I'm here, and I would like to comfort everyone a little bit who is feeling a little lost. You are all missing the inspiring messages that Ron used to bring you in his transmissions and postings that kept the forum going that yes, most of it was done by him, and here on the discussion forum, you almost take care of yourselves now. Transmitters do what they can to inform you or bring you our words. But the forum should not be dependent on just a few it should demonstrate strong interest and participation from everyone who joins this forum. It should be a place where members give their opinion and feedback, as some of you do so that it offers the members an opportunity to respond and to express themselves. It is also an opportunity to express your personal feelings, for things are not always as you would like to hear, or you can agree with, and that's okay, and sometimes it is very confronting and even unbelievable.

But know that much depends on your own development and the desire to really be willing to listen for communication with the spiritual world is indeed possible, as you know, as you all know, and with practice and perseverance you will be able to contact us, and may experience yourselves daily in your conversations with Spirit. We are as close as your own physical family and friends, as your neighbors and acquaintances and your loved ones around you, you just have to attune to our presence and prepare yourselves in these moments for such moments and you can talk to us about your everyday experiences. But you have to be willing and open and ask your questions clearly and specifically if you have them, and I assure you that you will always get an answer in some form, even if you do not immediately hear Our voices speaking to you.

I am Michael of Nebadon, your Creator Father and I know your thoughts, but we can only respond clearly when you are fully attuned to our presence. So keep practicing and do not give up and know that without proof of expression, we are always present and always interested in your life and in your daily needs. It is not always easy for us to convey to you what we mean to say. It always has to do with you, the listener, with your own experience and abilities. It has to do with your intention, with your expectation, and dedication, and also with the different words and expressions used in transmissions or daily talks to you. But all that will improve by getting more accustomed to listen to the voice of God in yourselves. And that, of course, is your Thought Adjuster, whom you learn to hear and understand as you progress in your spiritual development and in what your ascension may entail for you and for Urantia and for your ascending career as a whole. So be persistent. Do not give up on what you have already achieved.

We want you to continue to believe in what must be learned and done from the Spirit knowledge and all the assistance we give to transform Urantia with you and with your help. We are still here, working with you and for you to help the planet achieve its next goal, and that is to produce a civilization that, with your help, will establish brotherhood among men and move this planet towards full trust and faith in the Father. The world today is not easy, and there is a lot of destruction causing people to suffer which really touches our hearts deeply. Attend to your brothers and sisters whenever you can, stay close to God, and take the time to keep thanking Him for the good that still can be found on your world.

God, your Father, always allows love to prevail, and He lets go of the hatred towards his children, who are all desiring the same, and that is health and prosperity and a balanced future for their children, and this can be achieved through mutual understanding and for love for each other, as Jesus showed you not so long ago in His life here on this world. But all humans on all inhabited planets eventually come to know their Creator, whom they give a name, as you did with the name God - G O D. Each planet is ready for revelation when one or more groups in its primary civilization have come to pray to one God, and then true religion can take its place in the hearts of man and a new period can begin to awaken on the planet and grow until the days when men begin to realize that they are all from the same Father and that the universes are all created by the hand of one God, ruled and governed by the one God they then love and worship.

And then, yes, then such a world will begin to prosper and its people will slowly rise to a higher civilization under God and His high associates, whom the Father created specifically to help humans to accomplish what God the Father likes to see for the planet to complete in the first stages of evolution and up to the final entering to the days of Light and Life, which is the ultimate goal for all planets in the local universes and God's plan for you and all the planets in My local universe of Nebadon. I am Michael of Nebadon. I am your Creator Father, and I leave you today in my hope and trust on a planet that will rise one day in glory when man realizes that all are children of the same Father. I am Michael, your Creator Father, abide in my peace. Good day.

Elise  
Thank you. Thank you, Michael, thank you so much for your words. Well, this is Elise, and I see that more people have come and joined us. Roger Raz, and Jose Vargas, and Steven Gitz are all here. And Charlotte, I think, has just appeared again. Well, you're all very welcome. Thank you for coming. Oh, let's see if we have someone from the other side, speaking to us.

Universal Father  
This is Father, the Universal Father.

Elise  
Oh, welcome Father. Please go ahead.

Universal Father  
Yes, I'm Father. I greet you, My children. I bring you my blessing, and may you speak My name. You are living in a time of tremendous tension around the world and We know that you are missing your almost daily transmissions you were used to receive, but no other whom you receive your teachings or information from your world is so stubborn as stays in its unbalanced situation of misunderstanding each other and suffering the consequences. Whereas it could make living meaningful and joyful instead of harming one another. This world population still has a long way to go before it understands that peace can only come to the world, to your world if everyone, indeed, all on your planet, long for peace and work for it. There must be a general and deep desire to make peace.

Yes, the people themselves must have the will to make peace, you and all people, one by one, must make your own peace, which will then come to the world when people learn to love and to work collectively in achieving their goal, to achieve peace, and it must come from the people themselves. Peace is not a divine gift, it is something you have to create and work for because otherwise it would not be acquired and not made it your own. It is man, it is the people, collectively, all who inhabit the planet who decide whether you are living under peace or keep fighting and keep destroying. It is the people themselves, indeed, one by one, who decide whether to turn to their Creator or stay away from Me and deny My existence and try to prove that they are the kings who rule the nations.

You all know by now that this world lacks understanding of her spiritual origin and everything that is manifested for you on your world here and beyond, this is primarily due to a great lack of spiritual education, which is so necessary for each planet to be able to evolve and to trust and believe in Me, your Father, Who cares and upholds all of creation, and Who gave you the attributes and the restoration characteristics to reason, to think, and to come to believe and trust in Me. You have learned about great revelations. Great revelations have been brought to you, but those never had the full opportunity to work for this planet, to the extent that you have been able to form and build your society in accordance with the grace and intentions coming With it, the important meaning and necessity.

Elise  
Pardon me. I think it was necessity. I don't know if I heard this word correctly.

Universal Father  
of those wonderful revelations were interrupted or not fully understood and much of what was brought to you has been forgotten or just put aside. But here I am, your Universal Father. I love you, and I can assure you, this world has My love to create a beautiful world for all. A world that you are able to develop for you and with you, and to grow a soul so strong that is ready to enter the morontial worlds easily and quickly and to benefit from what you learned in your previous existence.

Continue to listen to your Thought Adjuster, Who is from Me, and is Me, Who lives within each of you, and Who will let you know what is important in a short time that you live your human life. Your Adjuster is your guide, and it is important that you become familiar with how you can draw closer to Me. I am your Father Who awaits you, after your long traveling through the spheres from sphere to sphere and learning your lessons to reach me and to approach me. I am your Father, your Universal Father, and I decided that all my children return to me from where I send you on your eternal journey and that you come to know me in the universes that I have created for you.

My creation is made to share with everyone, and everyone can find and meet me there. Continue to seek the truth in all that is revealed about the Creator and His universe, and you will reach Me and be with Me forever in My loving peace. Work for that desired peace in your lives and for world peace, try to strive, try to work for it as best you can, because only when every man and every woman in this world desires peace and dedicates themselves to achieving peace, only then will peace come within reach, and then everyone will feel it. Everyone will feel peace, and everyone will be in peace and to help accomplishing peace by all who join forces, by all who want to work for it together. This is your Father, your Universal Father. I love you all. I leave you with my blessings, My dear children.

Elise  
Thank you, Father, thank you for speaking to us. This is Elise, and I will see if there is something else for us today, if we have more speakers.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Yes, you have Elise, This is Machiventa Melchizedek.

Elise  
Welcome. Machiventa. Welcome to our Lightline.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you, Elise, and greetings to everyone. I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and I would like to talk a little bit about something your host Elise has been thinking about lately, and it is about the Federation. The Federation you all know about the Federation between certain local universes that have been created and established and which you have all heard about and hoped to hear more about in the future. But some time ago you were told that the Federation had been disbanded, and this message went out and shocked Ron and the listeners at that time and yet, that message was true, and Ron delivered it with all honesty, as always in his transmissions, this Federation between a group of local universes has not been permanently disbanded, but it has been suspended for an unknown time to see where it can best serve and be used as a unified cooperative body between local universes, for reasons not yet known to us and which will be decreed by the Universal Father.

As you know, each local universe is ruled by its own Creator Son. And although all Creator Sons are from the same source, the Universal Father and the eternal Son, they are all very different, just as you humans are all different from each other in appearance, in character, and divine qualities. All Creator Sons are of the same origin, but they all came into being and come into being after the First Sources and Centers arrived at a first and completely supreme Divine thought that is caused solely by their ability to unite their divine minds in the realization of a new being, representing a Creator Son with all the privileges and divine attributes of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son combined into one with the purpose of creating an individual of the Michael order of Sons, a very high rank of divine sons with the characteristic attributes of both the existential deities together.

The Sons were created specifically to create universes for themselves after a long period of training on The Paradise sphere called Sonarington and they will become the sovereign rulers of their own universes, which they are expected to bring into Light and Life, as many other Creative Sons have done before them and will do after them, still giving their universes their love and attention. The local universes are created according to the ideas and ideals of the Creator Sons and just as all Creator Sons are different from each other, their universes are also different from each other and will evolve from there depending on the decisions of each Creator Son as how to perform such a mighty task, always bound to the course of evolution, inherent in their creation. But each Creator Son is equipped with all the prerogatives he needs to fulfill this task, and each Creator Son is deity in his own universe, and knows exactly what to do in every circumstance, and does not need any help or assistance from another local universe, because they are so high in the rank of deity, they foresee in everything, and they each have their own vision to bring their special creation to fruition.

So each Creator Son has the power and ability to do whatever needs to be done for his universe, and they all make their decisions in accordance with the Universal Father to whom they have pledged their eternal allegiance, which has never been broken by any Creator Son in the Grand Universe, where local universes are still emerging. The Federation was created for cooperation between a number of local universes as a group of united universes to be fortified against any attack but proved to be not necessary for this time in evolution. However, the idea of a dominion will not be discarded, as there will be something in the future that calls for a federated universe, and the dominion is a good example to see what it can be and where it can be for and for what will play out in the future when new and young local universes are created with a new purpose and a new kind of life on it.

But right now, the dominion lies dormant until it will, if ever, be used again as a unified universe idea to serve any special use that the Universal Father has in mind. When and where all this will become reality we do not know. These ideals belong to the First Source and Center and His plan for His creation and even the Creator Sons do not know the plans of the Father, as you can easily understand. Well, this is Machiventa Melchizedek, and I hope you have enjoyed this little talk. I'm here on behalf of your Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon, and I thank you for listening. I'm asking others, invite others to say a few words if you want to add to these transmissions, and if not, Elise, you can close this light line for today.

Lemuel  
Well, hello, Elise,

Elise  
Yes. Lemuel?

Yes, please go ahead.

Lemuel  
Thank you, Elise, I would like to comment on your this transmission from Machiventa Melchizedek about the Federation, or what later became known as the dominion as I understand.

Elise  
Sure.

Lemuel  
Let me adjust my phone a minute, because you come in over a bit too loud. All right, that's fine. Yes, we all were given to understand when was it 2019, since the what happened to the Supreme Being, and even before that, Creator Spirit Nebadonia, and then the need, or the decision was taken it was necessary for a new universe age, and so many other things in recent years. Excuse me for the moment. Elise, excuse me. Where we were, we were receiving messages from Ron on a regular basis. And what I would like to say is that perhaps others of you who are listening have also noted that there is no information. There is no mention of any of this on any of the other websites producing messages from Spirit.

Well, that doesn't mean to say, of course, that what we have learned is not true. My comment is, of course, that we simply do not know. We do not know. We have taken it on as an act of faith that what we have been receiving since 2019 is true because we want it to be true. Of course, we do. But we have no real proof that the Supreme Being is no longer with us, or what has happened to the Creator Spirit Nebadonia, and the need for a new universe age and so many other things over the past, what is it now, six?, five or six years now. We simply do not know. We have received countless messages purporting to be from Spirit through Ron. And as I say, we as a family here on this discussion forum because we want them to be true, we take it as an act of faith that they are true. But the fact remains that we do not know.

The messages that you are receiving on your Lightlines recently, Elise same messages purporting to what will be in the future if man is able to do this, if man is able to do that, etc, etc, etc. And of course, we have listened to these things so many times before. What concerns me, and always has concerned me, is now. What does an individual do now? What do we know really? I only know what I experience for myself, everything else I take with a pinch of salt, but I do and always have kept an open mind, and I will continue to keep an open mind. But I find it, what is the word I want to use? I don't find it really helpful to continue hearing about some type of utopia life in the future when man has learned to do this and when man has achieved this, etc, etc, when we all know the state of the world is now.

I hope this doesn't sound negative or pessimistic, because I am not a negative or pessimistic person. I am realistic, and what concerns me is now, I would just briefly mention that any one of you who is interested to find out what has taken place here in Spain over the past week in Valencia, with a tremendous flooding and loss of life, etc, etc. When everything is taken away from you, what have you got? People look for help outside of themselves. Of course, they do naturally, because they have not been taught to look for help withinside of themselves, and I find it impossible to recognize the situation where it is like talking to children in kindergarten, but sometime in a distant future when they reach Oxford or Cambridge or Yale or Harvard and they are able to study this, that and the other. It just doesn't work. People need to know what they are capable of doing now. But in fact, we know that. Don't really we, you and I here on this forum.

What we have got, and always have had since our infancy, is our beloved indwelling Thought Adjuster and our soul growing within us, hopefully. These are things that we can identify with and and try to come to terms with and to increase our knowledge on a personal level through our own experiences, not in the hope of something wonderful in so many years into the future. We need to know what we can do now and well, whilst I'm talking about this, Elise, I would like to take this opportunity of saying to all of you that I will hold a Lightline on Wednesday if I am able to do so. At the moment, I think I will be able to do so, and I would like very much to hold a light line on this Wednesday. Well, in fact, this is all I really wanted to say, Elise, bearing in mind what you have just received from Machivent Melchizedek and so thank you, Elise, thank you for the opportunity over letting me speak. Thank you.

Elise  
Well, thank you, Lemuel, thank you for your comments. And well, I can only say that I also only know what I experience and what I experience for myself, and what I hear in these Lightlines that I bring to you and well, what we experience now, maybe we may learn differently, and when Lightlines are adjusted again I don't know. I do not know about that, but I encourage you Lemuel to hold a Lightline on Wednesday, and maybe we'll hear stories from a different side or a different view. So please, if you are able to hold a Lightline, please go ahead and let's see what happens.

Well, this is all I have received. And I'm very thankful that we got some words from the celestial side. And I do want to thank Michael of Nebadon for that, our Universal Father, and of course, Machiventa Melchizedek, who is always here to help me out, even in my personal life. Many times, he has helped me out in my in difficult times. So I'm very grateful to Machiventa Melchizedek and I want to thank all these listeners again today. I thank you for joining this Lightline, and just hope that you're taking it as I hear it today, as speaking to you under the guidance of our Celestial and Divine friends and I thank you for listening, so I will stop the recording if I can, let me see.

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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: October 29, 2024, 20:15:43 pm »

• 102824 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise Sophia Veronica
• Subjects: times in the past with low spiritual yearning and much like times of today with low spiritual yearning by Urantia’s humans, and all that Spirit has planned and informed us about is still planned for Urantia;
• Speakers: Machiventa Melchizedek, Jesus, and Michael of Nebadon;
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape 1: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20241028_110330
• Link to Tape 2: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20241028_114257 

Tape 1:

Elise  
Hello, everyone. This is Lightline, Netherlands International, for Monday, October 28, 2024. This is Elise, your host to welcome you all this very rainy autumn day. It's been raining all day long, and well here in the Netherlands, leaves keep falling, making my lawn look like a colorful tapestry in beautiful, typical autumn colors and shades. It's really nice to look at, but we're here to ask for a Lightline today, and we ask for guidance by our celestial friends and teachers, and we also ask You, our heavenly Father, to send Your angels to guard and care for Ron Besser. To send them to Ron to help him cope with illness, and we pray that you, all angels may wrap your angelic arms around him and keep Ron close to You.

We ask for guidance for the Lightline, without any disturbance, and we are inviting our teachers from the spirit realm to come and join this group, please. Now let's wait before we start. There's Salvador. Welcome, Salvador. We've just started, and we're waiting to meet with someone from on high to use Ron's words. Let's wait and see who will be our guest today.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Good evening, Elise, good day for all people on the other side of the ocean. This is Machiventa Melchizedek, and I welcome you all. It's good to see this group together and well, I'm Machiventa, and I am the one who came to your planet a long, long time ago. It's over 4000 years ago, and it was before Michael of Nebadon, your Creator Son, gave himself to your world.

It was all before that time and I came because it was really necessary. Religion had been almost lost on this planet Urantia already for 1000s of years, and great philosophical or religious thinkers had all but disappeared, and there were hardly civilizations left at that time with a strong leader, whom we could regard as competent leader or teacher for large groups of people and whom we could entrust to these people, who were mostly tribes in smaller and bigger communities living all over the earth, and at that time, most of them lived in what is now called Asia and a little bit of the eastern part of Europe, and of course, spread over many parts where they found land to live on.

Still, many civilizations had come and gone, and the great leaders of old had been almost forgotten, and their philosophical testimonies and scripts, if there at all, (they) had been lost or destroyed. Rules and morals were lost and a stable or well-founded nation was scarcely to be found. The benefit of an well-educated or strict leadership was lacking, and the people were neither elevated nor stimulated to a higher way of thinking. They were never encouraged or motivated to pray to the one God. Most tribes and communities, they all had their idols, and many of them had returned to worship their old gods and symbols. So chaos and misunderstanding were commonplace in all areas where civilization was stricken by lack of leadership, and where people found it common to fight for possession of the best land and livestock.

And of course, as you know, at that time, Adam and Eve had left the planet so very long ago, there was almost nothing left what they and their children had taught to the many people who had been fortunate enough to be educated and trained by them, but fortunately, there still were plenty of hereditary traits that Adam and Eve were able to pass on, had passed on. Still inherited through human genes and people still benefit from those genes. They are still with you. So that was the time, a place had to be prepared for Michael's final bestowal which he had planned already 1000s of years ahead, and for which he had chosen your planet Urantia. 

Because of the situation, I Machiventa Melchizedek volunteered to incarnate and work under those prevailing conditions in a region that reasonably met our expectations, and although it wasn't beautiful and easy, it seemed the most suitable for my incarnation where, at the time, there were tribes led by well-trained commanders and who at least had a sense of order and they were used to living in regulated communities. And they really desired for better leaders and stability, and deep down, deep down in their souls, they were longing for something that could meet their spiritual needs.

Now. We do not like to compare that time to what you are experiencing now, because times have changed so much you now belong to a completely different world order. You have also come to a different, more civilized sense of what a religion should entail. How to do politics. But on the whole, it seems the same. It seems to be the same chaos that people experienced then with a great difference in the application of your technical means and methods, and, of course, your global ability of communication, which of course, brings other dangers with it, but is extremely useful in bringing people up to date on the latest developments and news, whether it is good or bad, but it goes fast all around your world.

Nowadays, you have been facing rebellion, as has never been the case for such a long time, from all different corners, so many attacks from different sides, and for so many different reasons on the part of these insurrectionists as you have all become aware of these last years in the Lightlines. The problems We face are very serious because now We are losing many souls for the Kingdom of God. We work hard to protect those who try to keep this world of madness in a peaceful and livable condition. You all know about the many plans that have been issued over the last couple of years, none of them have really had a chance to start working or being introduced to you.

Rebellion is under control, and your planetary government is working satisfactorily, but the planet is not ready yet to receive the representatives from Spirit that have prepared themselves to work for the planet and its people, and even like to use some among you to assist us in our new to introduce ways of creating order and stability on this very overpopulated planet where people are forced to flee because they are constantly threatened by danger and unstable conditions in their living environments. They are even killed by unreliable decisions of your world leaders who cannot stop, almost lose their minds in their dominant possession and expansion of power.

Well, I am again Machiventa Melchizedek and I am on your world, and again, We are trying to break that situation, which is hardly possible because of the tremendous political events that dominate your nations. But that doesn't mean that we do not like to arrive here to do what we intend to do, and I tell you that much of what you have been told and promised will come before your eyes when things are more quiet and people can walk the streets again in a normal way to go about their business, after a long and turbulent time, when everyone will finally come to their senses and are willing to listen to something far more important and that is the coming of your Lord Jesus.

Jesus will address the population then. He will speak to all nations and oh, boy, will they listen. Will they be surprised what is being told and what is being expected of every citizen around the world. I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and together with my brother Melchizedeks, we are ready to guide this planet into what it should be and should become. A planet learning and growing in accordance to the will of the Father and in honor of the local universe of Michael of Nebadon, and that will be made known to everyone on this earth. Difficult times may arise, but we count on all of you to not give up, to work towards the recovery of your planet and all the people on it; who are your brothers and sisters, as they always will be on your journey through the universes that are available to you, where you will find and live truth, beauty, and goodness of God, your Universal Father. Remember that. This is Machiventa Melchizedek. I thank you all for listening and I step back.

Elise  
Thank you, Machiventa Melchizedek, thank you. Okay, this is Elise, and I'm looking at the, my screen, and I see that Jose Vargas has joined us. Welcome Jose. Okay, lets just see if there is someone else who would like to say some words to us.

Jesus  
Hello, Elise, and everyone who is present at this Lightline. It is Jesus. I greet you. I love you, who are here this Monday, and I have a message for everyone, so listen carefully. Times and circumstances have changed our program, as you know, Ron is ill. I'm coming to you, Elise, to give you this message. All preparations and promises we have made are still valid. Yes. I tell you we still plan to appear on this planet. It is too important. Many schedules have been made and are in place for a long time for a landing on your world. A world, so important to Me to return to, to fulfill My promises. You…………..

(long silence then discussion with listeners which is not noted herein)

Elise
Okay, give me a minute in stillness. Just a second.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes, this is Michael of Nebadon, does everyone, is everyone connected? Can I hear something from your listeners?

Robert  
Yes, this is Robert.

(more discussion not noted herein)

TAPE 2

Elise  
Okay, well, let's try it. Well, thank you, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes, this is Michael of Nebadon, Elise, and other listeners. Something weird has happened, and you are not to be blamed for that, but just sit back. Hold on. I am your Creative Father. I am Michael of Nebadon, and you have just heard Jesus speak, let me add something to that so you have a quite normal Lightline when you paste the two together. Besides being your Creator Father, I am also your brother through Jesus, who made me experience life as a human being on this world. You do not need to see me. I am always with you. I am close to you and we, we are always connected. Please talk to me. I'm here for you whenever you need me or desire to be with me. So be calm. Sit back and feel my presence. Feel my love. You're in my circuit, which is my signature, and proves that I'm with you.

Close your eyes for a moment and try to see Me in My light. My light would blind you if I showed myself fully to you. I can manifest myself in many different ways, through sight, through sound, or feelings that touch your body or mind and make you aware of Me. I am the God of my universe, the local universe of Nebadon. I may do as I please, but I will always act in accordance with the will of my Father, as you all do in your efforts to draw closer to God, our Father in Paradise.

Begin your days by greeting Me, by acknowledging My name for I am your Father, Brother who wants you to think of Me. Work with Me and worship with Me, our Holy Father in heaven. Be willing to follow His will and prove that you are a child of God, allowing God to live through you. To take your hand and guide you through life, with all its challenges and trials, and to learn your human lessons and to remain steadfast, to overcome all barriers and obstacles, together with Me, Michael of Nebadon. You have been given freedom of thought and action. Use it well, and listen to the divine voice within and you will be helped to overcome all trials of life, as I had to do when I lived in the flesh and was tried by the many trials that I encountered in my life on Earth. Much help is being given to each of you. Just call upon Me.

Do not forget the spiritual side of life, which is so connected with the material but sometimes the human mind is only focused on the material and has no idea of what else is present and so close in and around him. So stay alert to any change or maybe a little prompt that you may notice. It could be a sign from Spirit to ask for your attention, and it could even be a warning to not make mistakes or to save you from mishaps or accidents. Many spirit beings accompany you on your path through life, and they stay with you in your next experiences as a morontial being after you leave this world and where your soul will take you up and place you where you belong, according to what you have learned on your planet of birth.

So stay on the right path and stay close to Me, for I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life as Jesus is for all humans who believe in Him. Jesus and I are one in Christ Michael, fully and completely as one being. Follow Jesus and become like Him in all He is now and forever as children of both of your Creative Father and the Universal Father on Paradise. This is Michael of Nebadon. This is all I have to say. And Elise, you may wrap up this session, if you like. We love you, My faithful children. Be good and have a good day. Bye-bye.

Elise  
Thank you, Michael, thank You so much. Thank You so much for coming and saving the Lightline. We thank You for Your words and for being with us. Well, I think we should really wrap up this session, as Michael advised us to do, and well, I thank you for being here and for your patience. I don't know what to do about the computer I have been using, but I will look into this because I remember we had some problems last week. But thank you all, and hopefully, we'll see each other again, maybe tomorrow. I don't know if Dominick is holding a Lightline, but we'll see. I'm going to unmute you all, and I'm saying goodbye to you, bye-bye, till next time.

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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: October 22, 2024, 10:52:27 am »

• 102124 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise Sophia Veronica
• Subjects: status update and encouragement to stay the course;
• Speakers: Machiventa Melchizedek and Elise’s Thought Adjuster;
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20241021_110131 

Elise  
Hello everyone. This is Lightline Netherlands International for October 21, 2024. I'm Elise, your host, and I welcome everyone who has tuned in to the Lightline to see if we can have some contact with our spiritual leaders and teachers whom we invite to be with us today. Let us pray and ask the Father for His blessings, specifically for Ron Besser, our dear friend, and for all who suffer and need God by their side, may they receive strength to face life's trials and trust their care in the hands of the Father whose will may be done. We are asking for a clear reception of Your word Father and to help us in our efforts to bring those words to them who long to receive them. Thank you, God, our Father. Well, let's see if there is anyone who would like to speak to us and could tell us something. I invite Spirit to come and address us today on this Lightline.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek, Elise.

Elise  
Welcome, Machiventa, welcome. You're so very welcome.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Well, thank you. I want to speak to all today in these unusual times as you experience on your world. I cannot say much, but as you know, there have been many warnings issued in recent months and years, but people seem unwilling to distinguish between what is important for them and for the planet. The United States is busy with the upcoming elections and hoping for strong and wise leadership, but you all know that the elections are not going as usual, and many mistakes or even wrong decisions will be made, and that will cause a lot of problems.

But yes, you have a planetary government that has been functioning well and will continue to do so until the Magisterial Sons, decide to consult with Mantutia, your Planetary Prince, and with Michael of Nebadon, your rightful sovereign of the universe of Nebadon, the One who has complete control over His status as the highest authority. I am Machiventa Melchizedek not as a planetary manager, but as an associate of Michael of Nebadon and a liaison to various high officials who all come together as experienced planetary counselors and advisors to prepare Urantia for future work under the leadership of the Magisterial Sons who need to adjust their strategy.

We ask for your patience and to stay the course during these difficult times for the future of Urantia, and more than you know, which is at stake in all that is now unfolding as new leaders come to the fore and the governments of your world adopt a new progressive and disastrous course which will return the world to earlier times before democratic rulers began to take over the governance of many of your countries. So stay alert to what appears to be a time of freedom and progress, but is in fact becoming a time of oppression for all. This is Machiventa Melchizedek, and that is all I can tell you today.

We are asking you to continue to pray and hope for men and women who can bring a wise and good implementation of what is considered well for society but is losing its roots in a society where man has lost all confidence in his leaders and lack of means to come forward with strong leadership, which is so desperately needed on this planet today. When we can, We will keep you informed. When we have the opportunity, we will bring you short messages. Stay together, you people on this forum and We watch over you. Thank you for receiving Me. I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and I am leaving.

Elise  
Thank you, Machiventa Melchizedek, thank you for this message. Is there anyone else who would like to speak to us?

Elise’s Thought Adjuster  
Yes, Elise, this is your Adjuster, and I speak for all and to all who are attending this session, and for all who will be able to hear these words, spoken or recorded in any form. Greetings to all.

Elise  
Our greetings to you, Adjuster, please go ahead.

Elise’s Thought Adjuster  
Well, thank you, Elise. I am your Adjuster, but I'm representing all Adjusters that are with you here on this Lightline. You are all children of God. Each individual is a manifestation of God who created you. All Adjusters are God. We are in you and with you to guide you on a long path of learning and experiences you gain through the many forms of material, morontial, and spiritual life that lead you to the purpose of your creation, and that is your return to your Creator. Everything that comes from God returns to God. Not one thing that God has accomplished, whether created or otherwise animated, everything that comes from God will always return to its origin, which is God.

God preserves what He has created and He allows great freedom through a steady evolution for all that lives and all the implementation of energy in its many forms. God, created powerful beings to help govern His universe. Entities that know and do exactly what needs to be done with all the different forms of energy in action while God maintains control over the existence and design of His universe. He is the one who is above all. But whenever and wherever possible, the Creator has given leadership and control to others. He has placed trust in many of His wonderfully created individuals to perform great and momentous deeds, but never will any of His children, high or low, be able to create or change.

His creation belongs to Him, the God who brought into being the universes and beyond and gave them form and purpose, you and every one, along with the many intellectually gifted beings, can be part of God's kingdom, which is called the kingdom of heaven, and which is the kingdom of God, which he lovingly shares and administers in trust with all his benevolent children. God's immeasurable love ensures that each of His children strives to love Him and spread love to experience what life can be like in all facets. You have all come to know your Adjusters and discovered Him as the one closest to you. You have reached out and grown closer to God who resides in you since you were a little child, and now you can make full use of Him in any circumstance.

The contact between God and His children is something extremely wonderful. It is not found in everyone today, but that will change as man becomes more conscious through spiritual education, and as human consciousness increases through the realization that one can live in full contact with God, and when God consciousness becomes normal among the people of Urantia. All humans who receive an Adjuster are greatly helped by His divine indwelling and the Father's presence and all benefit greatly from what is given to them. For the Adjuster is always working with you, whether you notice it or not, and many people have reached the point where the Adjuster works powerfully through them and has brought men to an advanced spiritual state without being aware of the divine fragment within them. But blessed are those who have learned and trained themselves to be openly connected to their Adjusters, for they are able to communicate with the Adjuster and experience a great sense of spiritual joy in communicating with Spirit.

And this is what every human has received from the Creator, and with these qualities man will come to know his Creator and reach Him in his search for God who calls all His children back to Himself to share in His glory and to give them a place and to function in His kingdom, and when you use the qualities you have been given, you can do almost anything for you will be equipped for everything in your life, to get the experiences you need and to reach your Father on Paradise, which is the goal and aspiration of every human being on every planet, with creatures endowed with reason and free will to find a way and to know the truth, the beauty, and the goodness of God.

I'm still the Adjuster, and I want to say this: God has given you everything you need, in mind and free will, and with those gifts and the presence of the Adjuster, you will learn to the fullest of your potential and build the experience throughout your life to act wisely and come to a point where you become an experienced spirit being. We the Adjusters, always work closely with you to assist you with your questions or concerns. We feel your emotions because we are constantly connected to you. It cannot be otherwise. We have known you for a long time. We have lived with you since you were very young, and have entered your spirit, guiding you in your choices and determinations. But we are not the ones who determine your choices. Your choices are yours. Your decisions always prevail. It is up to you how you do the Father's will, just as Jesus did when he was on Urantia and living a human life.

We are permanently with you and guide you as We notice your valuable choices that will guide you further on your ascension career. We are not your teachers or your ministers. We are from the Father, and we help you to get back to the Father. In all your efforts to reach the Father, We never give up lending you Our attention in Our sacred mission to lead you to God and encounter Him in His full glory and majesty. And you can trust and count on your Adjusters. We are real, and We come from God, and we are God, and We work through God. Ask God,. remember that. Read your Urantia Book and study Who we are and what We do for all people living a life on an inhabited planet with God within them, the same and only God who gave you life for the special purpose of finding Him and meeting Him as your Father, Creator on Paradise.

We Adjusters guide you with divine power. We nourish you with divine wisdom to develop you into a child of the Father. Do never lose faith or give up in your search for what is real and divine. Your life is in the hands of God, your Creator, and Ruler of a vast universe that exists and that will expand according to His plans. Be with your Adjuster and talk to your Adjuster as we are talking to you now, enjoy every hour of your day, and give love to others. The more you give, the more you receive. What you send out comes back to you in abundance. These are the words that Jesus taught his disciples and sent them out to do.

Every day, when you wake up, take time to greet the Divinity within you and recognize the joy that comes from being able to listen and to even speak to your Adjuster For We are very much a part of you and will always be with you to teach you the best and most divine ways to live your life, to grow your soul in a joint effort to reach God your Father through the most appropriate ways to live your life in accordance with His will, by caring for yourself as well as for your brothers and sisters who try to pursue the same goal in their lives by strengthening divine contact with their Adjusters. So approach Us as such.

How do you think about yourselves? How do you perform best? These questions have not been asked before, and you do not have to answer them, but it is good to think about them because it's important to know yourselves before knowing others whom you might judge differently after learning about yourself, because self-knowledge is important for improving your attitude, increasing your consciousness, and awareness for your spiritual growth, and the discovering that you can always do better than you do. How do you go about getting to know yourselves? By sitting in silence with your Thought Adjuster. We are your guide and know you in everything you think and do. We know your thoughts, and We know the best about you and how to progress in your quest for spiritual development and growth. Turn within and be still. Seek your Adjuster. For the Adjuster will always be found.

The destiny of your life on Earth is to find God in the depths of your soul. And your soul will blossom like a fully opened flower displaying its beauty, radiating with happiness, and showing that you are daughters and sons of God your Father. Do not grieve for others you love for they have been given the same as you and they are moving toward their divine purpose to fully reveal the qualities you have all received from Father, and you will find them in your heart that beats before God. Take advantage of the opportunities that bring you into the Father's deepest secrets and approach the Adjuster as your best friend with reverence and the assurance of love. Open your hearts and show that you are children of your divine Father, who loves His children as only a Father can.

Always see God within yourselves. Work, play, and pray with the Adjuster and we will give you the assurance to experience your life fully. We are God in you. Do not forget to honor His name and walk with Him in the difficult hours and adversities you encounter on your path. We are Adjusters and Our divine power will flow through you and support you in every trial on the way to the Father. He will welcome you with open arms. You have all become increasingly aware of the greatness of God and what He means in your lives. All of you who are members of this forum or those who listen to the words spoken here, all have come to realize the existence of your Creator, and you have learned to appreciate life better because you have heard much more than you will ever learn through reading books, scripts, and other literature that you will discover.

You have come to realize that you are all an important part of what your heavenly teachers have taught you over these many years, and you have come to a better understanding of the vastness and glory of God's creation. For many words have been spoken, lessons learned, and many Divine Personalities and even Deity has been presented to you, and although you may not always understand what is being said, it will stick in your mind, and you will understand the meaning of it much later, as your mind continues to expand and you enter the morontial worlds that you have not yet experienced. For your life on a material planet is the first step, and people grow up in many different circumstances that teach them about life.

But life begins again when you leave this world and can freely explore the more spiritual ways of learning and interacting with other people who come together from worlds like yours and discover that you all have the potential to become co-creators with the Creator. There is a path you must follow to reach the full flowering of your soul's growth. Strive for the best, but the best is already within you. Be very grateful to God your Father for what you have been given, an opportunity to become like Him in your search for truth, beauty, and goodness.

This is the Adjuster. We all accompany you, each of you, on your journey to the Father in the heaven of heavens. So, well my dearest, go and continue on your way, seek God, seek your sisters and brothers who are willing to come along and have the courage to live and be truly blessed. We, the Adjusters, are always with you in your joys and in all trials you have to face. This is the Adjuster of Elise, speaking. I am leaving you with much love and trust to continue your ways as you are so courageously showing us. I wish you a very good day. We thank you.

Elise  
This is Elise. Thank you, Adjuster and all Adjusters who were present here today. Thank you for your beautiful words. It's very encouraging. Thank you so much. Okay, this is Elise. Let me have a look at the dashboard if it's working. I see we have some people who came to join us, Amado, Salvador, George Huber, Roger Krupa, Jose Vargas, Donna and Larry Whelan. So we have a whole group together. I'm very grateful you all try to to call in and after some difficulties we had this Lightline going. I am not expecting any other words after these words from our Adjuster and I would like to thank you for listening, and I want to stop the recording for today and we'll then go to Dominick for another update. Thank you so much, and I hope to see you all next week. Thank you. Bye-bye.

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Tues LL 10.01.24 ARTHURA Pillars of Governance Columns 1-8

« on: October 02, 2024, 13:36:52 pm »

• 100124 Audio Tape Lightline USA; host: Dominick Ohrbeck
• Subjects: committees once established become oligarchies, the executive, legislative, and judicial are the three inspired parts of a government and represent the first three pillars/columns, columns 4 - 8 are described, eschatology of current as above so below times we are living, Dominick discusses our divisions; Q & A
• Speakers: Arthura 
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20241001_110154

Dominick  
All right, welcome to Tuesday Lightline here in a exciting October 2024. It's already exciting because we have announced a change of the regular Lightline schedules and a possible disruption to our normal rhythm of these Lightlines as soon as next week, and we continue the rest of this week's Lightlines ending with Lemuel on Wednesday and anyone else throughout the week, such as Clency, who typically takes Friday when he transmits for Lightline.

So let's just say well before we start with our prayer, I just want to say that as a rather new transmitter in the public sphere, I welcome the break and change. I think, given the vital volatility, volatility of what's going on in the world, that it's very difficult as a transmitter, and in my perspective, to not fall into subconscious or what I consider issues of the day, and try to defer to whatever is coming through on the spiritual end. So personally, I thank the deities and Michael and Salvington and all universe authority who provides the privilege and capacity and ability to transmit at all and certainly deliver them in an organized manner, like a program like this, on behalf of Michael and with the capacity of our Father within. Put the mic a little closer.

So let's start with a quick prayer to our Father and our Lord Jesus and Michael. Thank you and amen, for those who like to end with that. Before we get into anything super serious and on point, I'm reminded of some fleeting, experiential moments that we all wish to share, but we definitely have in a unity of experience, but not a uniformity of the event in our lives, when we become more than just spiritually conscious, but God conscious, and then furthermore, Deity conscious, and deity becomes the relationship of all types of facets of God and a vast universe of meaning and purpose to our lives and belonging to a love that until that point, is hypothetical and philosophical and such a born again experience is a very joyous occasion and very personal, and I think spiritual capacities to relive that at any moment and recall that.

So we just remind each other why we're here and ultimately these Lightlines have a dual purpose, depending on how you enter the orbit of this material in that you are, or we all are, on a different timeline of this type of experience. And then when we extrapolate that to the planet, we learn that the planet as an institution does not function with this type of universal experience, both officially and unofficially, and that there are serious contentions around the motivations of each other, depending on that experiential moment in time, people are on, and then collectively, we're on.

I welcome Salvador, we're a few minutes in. So with that caveat, the key word today started off with the word committee, that's C, O, M, M as in Mary, I, T, T, as in Tom, E, E, committee. Committee. And this seems to be associated in modern times, and dating back as far as you wish to go to the concept of oligarchy. Now we can easily, 

Arthura  
And this is Arthura stepping in. I wish to hijack the transmitter's line so he can freely speak. Today, we will talk about politics, not but freely extrapolate the lesson to your lives therein. A committee is almost a sure synonymity, or equivalent to an oligarchy in Urantia history. Anytime you have a committee, you have, by definition, delegated some authority, which is natural for things to get done. However, when committees solidify their power and institutionalize themselves, they inevitably become an oligarchy.

Every government institution in the world has some form of national committee that represents a faction and power. Now in communist states, you have an all-encompassing committee, and in democracies, you have various committees of political parties, and all are under a unison of coalesced budding world institutions that claim to unite these nation-states and their economies, which for all intents and purposes are functional oligarchies. And in America, you just need to look at the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee. As each committee declares the other tyranny over the other, we remind you that democracy is democratic and that most democracies are not purely democracy, but republic, and the republic in a democracy has those three inspired functions of a legislature, an executive, and a supreme court.

But that the democratic aspect is that the officials that ought to be most in charge of those bodies of republican governance when I say republican, it's republic, not the faction, but that these officials are elected. A quick recap is that the legislature proposes and drafts the law, and they also have the power of the purse. The executive has a check on that process and veto power, and also has emergency military power over the borders and nation-state makeup of the geography controlled by this republic, or in some cases, a whole state governed by a committee. The courts determine the rulings of those laws when they are contested, and they also rule on the appeal of any rulings in the lower courts.

Those three bodies are symbolically represented by columns on a building which would give you the icon for government. The triangle over the three pillars was a platform underneath those pillars, and the columns represent governance. Now the fourth column here in the United States is considered a couple of things. One would be the first amendment in the Constitution, and the other would be the unofficial duty of the press, the fourth, considered the fourth column, and we submit to you that the fourth column is something that takes precedence over the issue of abortion.

Dominick  
This is Dominick, does, let me check if that was what you wanted to say, Arthura?

Arthura  
Yes, we will, we will qualify that by supplementing that the reason for that statement is that abortion is not a column in governance. It is not to relegate one issue over the other and remove the agency of any particular voter with particular values, but to say something provocative that clearly juxtaposes when it comes to policy of governance that the fourth column are those things where the check and balance of government is the freedom of speech, officially and unofficially. Unofficially, equating to the grassroots citizen level, and the other end of the spectrum of an institutional level, but that that spectrum is needed to be safeguarded by the laws which would get worked out in the courts.

So when you look at elections coming up, you can see how the more or less executive branch, even on a global level of those global institutions, you should think about how they are approaching the fourth column of governance, and whether that is being done by committee or by democratic means. The fifth column now becomes a little different. The fifth column is considered all of what has been summed up in modern times recently as the deep state. And here you have, you could say Hollywood glorifying the fifth column, but mixing it up to the point that they are literally telling you in the last five to 10 years that good is bad and bad is good, and we don't know who is on the right side of anything anymore, as the classic cold war dichotomy melted away and a new world order is either filling a vacuum or going according to plan, depending on your perspective.

When we continue and go into the sixth and seventh columns, the sixth column would correspond to a science fiction work that this demographic of Lightlines might be familiar with, meaning 50 and over, and that would be the Day After Tomorrow which is a science fiction or fictional novel of this cold war conflict extrapolated into almost a game of function, type of nomenclature of modern times, where super scientific, electromagnetic bioweapons are used against a race of communists, east and west, almost. But that would be an example of a delving where we're evolving to when we reach the eighth column of today's lesson. But the sixth column starts to delve into those metaphorical lands, and the seventh column in modern culture begins to delve into the binary distribution of good and evil, Lucifer versus Gabriel, but around the battlefield meme of workers or soldiers or citizens. The point is a mass appeal to unite and either save the planet, conquer the planet, unify the planet, etc, etc, but it is a rally call to unity which is one of the pillars of the rebellion manifesto, which rebels against original universe governance and wishes to set up its own committee over and rule over this planet.

Now I want you to switch and turn on your visual mind. We're simply going to describe this seventh column as a type of wave. Now think of the wave when you visualize an earthquake machine measuring they are measuring waves, and the needle goes all over the map. Now, in perfect time and space harmony, which would be equated to coherence the wave represents a sine wave, an oscillation, the harmonious up and down waves of equal proportion, an equilibrium of inhale and exhale, and so on and so forth. Now the rebel and its postmodern type of logic creates a different type of wave, but tells you you're looking at a sine wave. But it is not a sine wave.

It is called a sawtooth wave. And a sawtooth wave starts from the bottom and crescendos to the top and then falls off a cliff back to the bottom and it is not a curved wave. In this sense does the sawtooth wave represent a tool of breaking things up, disruption. It could serve a positive purpose. In medicine, for example, it would break up stagnant structures and release a freer flow of energy, and healing of things that were stuck. It might be a way to attack a virus. But in social science terms of governance columns and the realms of the supernatural and super material, the sawtooth wave is the expression given to rebellion governance, and they destroy you, if you don't call it a sine wave, it is the rebels sine wave.

But the objective truth of original universe governance convicts it of being a sawtooth wave, and it is not a sine wave. This brings us to the eighth pillar, and we're going to end it at the eighth pillar because if we went on to a ninth, 10th, and 11th pillar and so on, we would be accused of following esoteric, magical systems and this is not so. For we can effectively end the speech on the eighth column, which is another advanced word. We used epistemology in the last Lightline and today's advanced e word is eschatology, E, S, (C) H, A, T, O, L, O, G, Y. Now this is not such an advanced word when explained, but it deals with the human cultures viewpoints, both believed, but culturally educated, also to indoctrinate a world view of what the future missions that we propose to be broadcasting about from above to you, in terms of these volatile times you live in right now, even heading into next week, very much trigger, if not represent, to some, the eschatological prophecy of their cultures.

Think I am wrong? Look at the Olympic opening ceremonies of the white horse. You need not blame evangelical Christians. You need not blame a Shia Muslim. You need not blame a Hindu, and you need not blame the end times of the Jews. We will be all of those things and none of those things but the eschatological need to define the events in their eyes will be evident in the early moments of the bond of anything visible. Until then, you are left to your own competition. But essentially the eighth column of governance is influenced by a culture within a nation-state, if not the globalist world committees who have a particular eschatology, but should be influenced by what you should detect as sons of God, whether or not that committee will allow you to flourish or seek to destroy you.

Those are powerful words, but understand our contention is that your well or ill-meaning motivations of global committees and national committees and local surrogates of such committees are unified by the culture of the fifth, sixth and seventh and eighth pillars of a shadow governance casting a pall over not just one planet, but many planets and neighboring planets, creating an intergalactic culture  We as original universe governance, have been gaslighted by our own policies, by rebellion governance in that our policy is to quarantine rebellion. So indeed you have been suppressed, not oppressed.

You, ironically, must decide for yourselves when we say to you, this was a necessary policy of Paradise Sons and Trinity function, not just Michael of Nebadon's decision. But that you could chase your tail in following the contentions of rebellion governance, which seems to correctly point out the oppression of Paradise rule by isolating your planet and allowing evil to flourish. But the rebel does not win by blaming all that they have caused on the policies of the Paradise Sons. The Paradise Sons are the ones who reestablish original universe governance and give you the blueprint for a democratic republic of a planet, and the only committees left are the advisory roles of divine governance.

Dominick  
Are there any questions? Thank you, Arthura. Are there any questions? We're at 2:34 (p.m.) and we welcome Jose and George H, welcome. It's 2:34 (p.m.) you can press five star to raise your hand. Donna and Larry, welcome. You just missed the opening, and we've just covered, we've just opened it up to Q and A if need be. Hi, Valerie, go ahead. You're unmuted.

Valerie  
Thank you. I'm not very versed with politics, so I would like clarification on this term democratic republic, because now that we have those two parties always against one another, and then it is this terminology of incorporating both. So I'm not quite understanding that.

Dominick  
Okay, so the end, the end result of a global governance. Go ahead. Just a second, I'm going to unmute you after I get Arthura, okay Valerie?

Valerie  
Yes. Thank you. Thank you.

Dominick  
Please, Arthura, or anyone else, go ahead.

Arthura  
Where to start, Valerie is the concept of a planetary government. Now, a planetary government is something that has been contested bitterly by two sides of spiritual governance ever since the rebellion occurred on this particular planet, but also within the system of inhabited planets, governed by the system sovereign whose name and original rebel was Lucifer. The manifesto declared what we talked about in the seventh column that effective governance could occur, but only effectively occur if there was this unity of beings within the jurisdiction of the system to unite and join in rebellion, which obviously is given other terms, such as more legalistic and softer terms like secession or independence. In some sense, we acknowledge that committees have their place and function, but as a rebel oligarchy that has evolved on the planet, the oligarchies, either evolutionarily, are influenced by rebel spiritual culture, some of it is knowing, and some of it is just going through the rituals which the human may or may not ultimately believe in, but that sees the rituals as a method or preliminary aspect of going through the motions to attain the level of status and power they seek.

Whereas the missions and establishment of universe government will shift this type of oligarchy, committee approach to planetary rule that is guided by a sawtooth wave of rebel energy of cyclical climax and destruction and rebirth. For an energetic method of control by cyclical destruction, which is their cycle of inherent rebellion against an objective reality of the universe existing the way it does, and their Phoenix, like renewal of rebellion that's necessary to stem the tide of Paradise Deity Itself, which they do not recognize. They only see the patterns of the universe and declare that they know it's real. To have a comparison the religious experience talked about at the beginning of this Lightline is explained by the neuroscientists through the observation of what chemicals and brain sections are used being used in expressing themselves during this experience, and to claim that your religious insight, which somehow becomes etched in your permanent record of not only your soul, but also neurologically in your brain's electrochemical areas, but all the neuroscientist sees is how your brain behaved and acted possibly during that process. They infer that religious experience is nothing other than a hyperactive pineal gland and so on.

Similarly, the rebel does not recognize the Father. Does not recognize Paradise Trinity as anything other than what they objectively know, which is the Paradise rule of such Sons originating from that area outside of time and space, and that those Paradise Sons have literally created and are their Creator Father. But ultimately, some of these entities are created, as we have said, with the capability of rebellion, which comes with the supernatural ability of free will. And we only say supernatural so that you understand the difference between an entity worthy of eternity and immortality in the universe, compared to a transient entity without a will, but of a mind, nevertheless, that dies and lives through its creative mechanisms as a species. And so to come back to it, the committee word is both at the beginning of this talk, spoken about in how the rebel government of oligarchy has reformed rebellion governance and its rebellion against original universe governance and ultimately does not rule by a Democratic Republican type of governance, but masquerades as such through the fifth, sixth and seventh and eighth columns of a committee.

Dominick  
Thank you, Arthura, all right, you're unmuted. Valerie, I hope that helped.

Valerie  
Thank you very much. Yes, this is a fascinating Lightline. I believe I have to read it and meditate some more. I will have more questions, but right now, I don't, because just have a deep impact. You know, I prayed about it to understand that the aid or these dark entities are partaking in the government because there are just, I noticed that there are so many layers, like this morning in the news, I have read about FEMA calling out to those who need assistance after the hurricane. So there's so many good initiatives coming from the government, but yet we have, we do see so many dark sides of secret agendas also. So I believe that I have received the answer, but needs some digestion, and I thank you very much, Arthura, and thank you, Dominick.

Dominick  
Thank you, Valerie. All right, the lines are open. We thank Valerie for her question, and thank you Arthura for that answer. Now we don't get more unless we get questions. I can talk all day, every day about my own experience, but why should you be subjected to that? As I said in the beginning. I know many of you have questions, and I don't know what answers I'll get, which helps all of us, but we are since we have the absence of questions at this time. Always. I'm laughing because I got one as soon as that happened. Go ahead, Valerie.

Valerie  
I just want to tell you, Dominick, that the scripture says that by the testimony of the saints they have overcome, that means people who must overcome certain things. So your experiences are very welcome. And I remember from the early times when I have heard experiences of believers they were they were very important to me in building my faith. So I just want to encourage you to share your experiences.

Dominick  
All right. Well, thank you. You know, all right. So thank you, Valerie, and we welcome Lemuel back to the call. The, well let's just go with a bit of current events to put the eschatological into context. I believe the, excuse me, that's my, that's me hitting the sign, we have about 40,000 I believe, troops in the Middle East right now, the US, and Biden calling for a ceasefire. Oh, weydevu. I know you're not on the call, but I know you've asked in the past some of these questions. I'm just riffing at this point.

I don't know if I have a tie into all this, but these are some events going on. You have the collapse of the real estate market in China. And I think they've done what every central bank has always done in such a collapse, except China goes to extremes when they do it. So I believe they're printing money like nobody's business and if you look at a line chart compared to the rest of the nations doing such things, it doesn't represent a natural progressive line, but an exponential off the chart line. For those who hold stocks, that's a good sign, there will be commodities and bubbles, and stocks will go up, and the oligarchy will tell us that the economy is great, and the rest of us in the lower classes who weren't part of the investment class, which in the world is not nearly as many people as we assume they are. The rest of us are going to experience even more inflation, and as we have these global conflicts, you can sure bet that the supply chain will also be disrupted.

The reason I mentioned you weydevu, and even though you're not on the call, you asked about, I think, some geopolitical questions before, and as we come up on this next week of the anniversary of October 7, I believe I've talked in other Lightlines, some of those geopolitical events leading up to such a thing. You had, not only the Abraham accords almost coming into effect with Saudi Arabia officially recognizing Israel, but you had, since the course of 2013 the fifth column influencing the fourth, third, second, and first columns of the Ukrainian government and those factions of the DNC and global supporting things of that, I suppose, are the factions responsible for those type of events.

Now we're on the precipice of World War Three, and if you care less about that than you do about abortion rights, then good on you but that's not the way I personally feel about it. Many others don't. I believe every American household seems to be split right down the middle on this. 2709 in some respects, is no exception. In that sense, Ron is a red coat. He loves his crown and he loves the executive functions of the government that's in their policies that are in power and I've spent my time since I've been here complaining and railing against the fourth column that he digests every day, and that, when I tell him a policy of this and that, he says; well, yeah, that's bad.

But like a lot of, like everybody else in the demographic of 50 and over, you watch legacy media, and everyone 50 and under is no longer watching television. They are getting all their media through other means, and the fourth column no longer exists the way it does in that the election policies and issues around even the very definition of things, certainly is dealing with the First Amendment. And this goes back four years, even with the pandemic, we're dealing with immigration, and as the Haitians declare that they're willing to take the food processing jobs from us, lazy, cigarette-smoking, football-watching Americans, and that's good on them, because that's the way America has been working since food processing. But the oligarchy of food processing declares that that's the way we should eat, and the oligarchy of whether you should be able to grow your own garden says you can't do any of that because the world is too hot and climate change and so on and so forth.

And if you even talk about it, you're spreading disinformation, do you see folks where this is going and what this occurs, and what this happens is you will have an American Renaissance of the citizen railing against an overauthority of the executive. Because it's the executive who when it doesn't get what it wants, is revising all the other pillars of governance. Now that is not a transmission. That is my last say-so before we head into this drastic month and we pray that we get anything. We welcome anything from Spirit and we're unified in our spiritual experience that gives us the ability to cooperate, I think, without it, without that, we just say we can cooperate, but that's purely animalistic behavior of self-interest.

True, altruistic cooperation comes from our super material endowments of God. But how we use that needs original universe governance. You need that aspect as well, to have just the Fifth Epochal Revelation, or a Bible, or anything else of a book of a canon of religious education to help a culture perpetuate its Code of Conduct and ethics and beliefs from one generation to the other is just that, and eventually it degrades, over time, into these human factions which would inherently gravitate towards the committees set up long time ago by the rebels. The Fifth Epochal Revelation is no exception, as its leadership apparatus continually seeks the approval of global oligarchical institutions like the UN and so does any other religion. Look at what Vatican, Vatican Two did, or look at how that gets rejected by other eschatological religions like Islam, which does not compromise at all and instead seeks to establish a religious caliphate wherever they habitate.

Ironically, you have, and this is just my opinion based on observation as far as current events go, you can easily have an October surprise, because politically, when Netanyahu was in the States, Kamala didn't, didn't sit by him when he gave, when he addressed Congress. I don't know how much she met with him, but that was symbolic, whereas Netanyahu went to Trump's Mar-a-Lago and was smiling. Now the recent trip with Zelensky equally, had a press conference with Kamala reading a speech and reading a policy, whereas Zelensky stood by Trump and fielded questions together. One message was perpetual, was the winning of a war under the principles of the conflict, which is marked by, I could remember this conflict well because that's a few months before I moved out here. It's easy to remember that way. It's my historical marker that I moved out here in October, you could say, and in February of the next year that war started. And here we are now, four (2 & 1/2) years later and we have allowed, as a country, the export of our military assistance to be offensive into the state of Russia.

Now this is all a long-winded thing by saying, what did you expect if Russia is competing against us in a proxy war, that they wouldn't work with Iran to split up an alliance aligned against it? And there's no better way you would think logically than to split NATO up by creating a conflict in Israel. Now, how does that split NATO up? It certainly would put Turkey in a bind, which I'm sure it has politically. But Turkey doesn't ever consider itself in a bind. They go in the self-interest of Turkey, but as far as NATO goes, they're not for Israel, which is ironic in the conflict of things. So there are no binaries in this conflict.

It's like a global Mexican standoff, which is a cultural term for everyone pointing pistols at each other, I believe. And that would be such a maneuver when you would trigger an event like that. So when these are simply the things we're faced with heading into this October, and if this is my last Lightline, I need to have my last word. So thanks Valerie, that's just the way I can begin to see it. If there's any more questions, feel free. We're at the end of our hour, and Lemuel, I'm going to come to you just to verify that you will indeed do your Lightline tomorrow. Lemuel, you're unmuted. How's your Lightline looking?

Lemuel  
Well, at the moment, it's looking fine and I feel I have reasons for saying this, I am certain that it's going to be my last Lightline as well, and I have a lot to say tomorrow, so I'm looking forward to it. So yes, tomorrow night, at eight o'clock, tomorrow afternoon, at two o’clock, where you are as usual. Yes, thank you. Thank you, Dominick.

Dominick  
Thank you, Lemuel. God bless and God bless you all, and we pray that we can keep it together in our households, in our nations, in our communities, and certainly in our nations. Have a good day.

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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: September 30, 2024, 21:06:32 pm »

• 093024 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise Sophia Veronica
• Subjects: Melchizedeks are again at their places on Urantia awaiting the start of missions, the presence of Spirit on Urantia will be such that every person will know of it, Arthura continues to be present and provide support to Michael, remember that all are connected and are one, each should seek Father’s will, past cultures are important and should be taught to our children, and the Trinity and Father are one and always with us;
• Speakers: Machiventa Melchizedek, Arthura, Gabriel, Van, The Trinity, and Universal Father;
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240930_110120

Elise  
Good evening and Good day to all. This is Lightline Netherlands International. Today is Monday, 30, September 2024, I'm Elise, your host for this Lightline, and I welcome you all. Now, let's see if we can find connection with the world of Spirit and to possibly get someone to speak to this group. But first, I would ask you to join me in a prayer of sincere thanks to our Father in heaven, who is keeping this group together and provides us the opportunity to share in the things we long to hear and be a part of. Father, we thank You for Your grace and goodness to this world, a world that is not always very friendly or grateful to You. So today, we pray for those who are not aware that they can and may share their lives with You, Father, and who do not have this wonderful opportunity to hear Your voice. We pray that they may soon discover You in their hearts. Amen. Now let's be still and see if anyone from the spiritual world likes to come to us and talk to us, please.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Good evening to you and others on that side of the globe, and good day to all others on the other side. I am Machiventa Melchizedek. I think I am largely speaking to the same group that gathered here on the Sunday Lightline with Ron Besser. I'm happy to see you all back. You're happy, a little confused, maybe after Sunday, and maybe a little suspicious too, after so many changes that have been announced over the years, months, and days. But We know one thing, We have to send the cabal home. Which means they should be eliminated, and many of them have been eliminated by now. But secretly, they keep hiding in the most unlikely places and popping up unexpectedly.

But We have the most powerful forces using against them, and they will soon be cleared, because Our work is there for a serious start again, when We will begin in full force, as We hope to see in a little while. Many, often Melchizedeks, have, once more taken their places on Urantia, and they know exactly what needs to be done first and what should be put aside for later times to look at. We, the Melchizedeks all have Our own agendas, but numerous things have come up that also require Our attention, and all of that must be done in an orderly manner so that We can be sure when We approach Urantia and its people well and with the best of intentions. For even a divine appearance that will be very different and beyond your expectations.

We have come to the conclusion that every individual on this planet will need to know about the presence of God at hand on earth, and the fact that the planet is visited and guided by celestial beings whose names you have heard for 1000s of years, but find it difficult to be confronted with and to accept as a reality. But the truth is that this is the reality that man will have to face, and We will inform every nation of our presence and tell them in due time what our missions entail. Well, sure some of your leaders and rulers will certainly object vehemently. But We have Our methods of approaching each personality and each nation, culture, and its beliefs, and We will never disturb the people in their sincere faith that pays tribute to the Creator, the one true God, and Creator of all.

I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and We want you to remain calm and not speak of the things you hear or read, because time will unfold everything, and people will become familiar with the new situations, and they will gain more confidence and believe in what is happening as the days go by, and when they see and hear what We bring in these missions, which are, of course, very strange to you, and could even be a bit uncomfortable to the people of Urantia, who are not accustomed to any contact or interference with Spirit.

I am Machiventa Melchizedek. I am in charge of the Melchizedeks present on your planet, and I can tell you that We are a large, highly experienced group, along with hundreds of our staff members for each of the Melchizedeks Who work for Michael's missions and the many other assignments that We have to accomplish on Urantia, the planet, yes, the planet where everything is different and never easy. Stay tuned to the discussion forum, and what will be announced in the coming days, or rather weeks. Ron Besser will always be the one announcing the news or other events. So be alert and stay on track. This is Machiventa Melchizedek for now, and I thank you all.

Elise  
Thank you Machiventa, thank you so much for coming and speaking to this group.

Arthura  
Hello, everyone. This is Arthura. I greet you all. Yes, I'm here. I'm still here, and I have the ability to connect. It is not hard to connect with you today. Elise, I'm here and I will remain here on the planet and around it for a long time until the planet is cleared from the evil that is still among its people that keeps the planet in a heavy mist and far removed from God, Who is your only true and divine rescue. I'm Arthura. I am dedicated to Michael and His concerns over a planet in a most complicated situation that involves so much more than you are all aware of. Of course, you are not familiar with the circumstances in the universes, but I can tell you that there are many wicked things that Michael has been trying to remove from His universe for a very long time, and the resistance He encounters from the rebels and war on your planet are great obstacles to the progress of His universe.

You hear about new decisions, new schedules that were told to you on the Lightlines. You know also, and We know much better, of the persistence of the Magisterial Sons Who are wonderful and compassionate beings, Who never give up to stand ready for the people of the planets. They are working hard for planets as yours. Urantia is one of a kind, yes, one of a kind in how people are able to destroy a planet instead of bringing their habitats to fruition. We're all very grateful for the patience and mercy that Michael of Nebadon offers you, in a time when almost no one seems to include God in their lives, where God is a forgotten person in the hearts of the people who keep thinking they can do anything they wish for themselves, but the Magisterial Sons and many other personalities on high oversee the sad situation into which the people of Urantia have fallen, so deeply rooted in selfishness that good and sustainable solutions must be found to solve the problems that have arisen.

I Arthura, have mentioned many things and given some indications for new methods dealing with society, but that is just a start to wake you up and to point out the changes that now need to be addressed, need to be discussed with your representatives of your governments. Something that is almost impossible in times of war and disagreements and on a world where peace is still far away. But people, this is what needs to be addressed or even forced on Urantia and Michael of Nebadon has decided to deal with the planet as it should be dealt with, and to get the missions going and continued as planned. I am Arthura, and I support Michael wholeheartedly in his perseverance for bringing order to his local universe of Nebadon. I will be here to assist. I'm Arthura at your service. I wish you a good day.

Elise  
Well, thank you. Thank you, Arthura. Now, this is Elise. Let's see if there are any other people from on high who would like to address us.

Gabriel  
This is Gabriel of Salvington.

Elise  
Oh, welcome, Gabriel, welcome. Please go ahead if you like.

Gabriel  
Oh, yes, I do like to speak to you people. I do like to be here. You're on a planet here that has been so far distracted from the business of the Father and from the purposes that Michael, your Creator Son, has in mind for you. I would like to tell you what is ahead of you when We work together, when We strive for better times, when We give ourselves to the Father, to His sons, and to all who work for the purpose of a better evolution on your world and other worlds. Here and there we see feeling for your brothers and sisters. You're all connected. Know that as human explorers and caretakers of this beautiful globe that has been turning for centuries, and it desires to progress in its final evolution from an experiential planet with so many life forms on it. You are all a part of it, and it's the most beautiful journey you will ever take.

You meet people you like, you meet people you dislike, try to love everyone. They all have good personalities when you learn to know them. When you leave this world, you will meet the many beautiful personalities created everywhere throughout the universes, all journeying to serve the one God and His infinite creation. I do have to call on all of you that the hour is near when you will no longer have the time to decide what to do for God's creation if you do not stop killing and exploiting your planet that has been given to you to cherish and preserve and for you to grow a worthy soul that may guide you through the trials and experiences on your way back to the Creator, your Father on Paradise.

I am Gabriel. I have known Michael of Nebadon for millions of years, and I know how Michael loves and cares for His created universe that is named Nebadon, which he maintains in His own divine rulership, but always in accordance and appreciation to the will of the Universal Father. We have oftentimes presented you with a multiple choice of opportunities and centuries of time to grow and develop yourselves and to adapt yourselves to what is yours to maintain and love. But to this day, the human races have not been willing to understand God's plans with man who is made in His image and likeness, who can ascend to the highest in his service to God, and who can fulfill God's desires that man become like God in his own reality.

Now think about this again as you return to your worldly obligations and be committed to the will of the Father, who only asks of you to be good and true as He is good, true, and beautiful. These divine attributes of the Father will help you understand who you are and what your purpose and presence is in today's world over which you have no control other than to seek and explore and live these divine qualities that will help you in your efforts to reach the truly meaningful heights of serving God by serving your brothers and sisters in the flesh. I am Gabriel. Please, always be aware of the little things that are expected of you so that you can do the great things that will be given to you to share in the responsibility of God's creation which will never cease to give you the satisfaction of being a proud child of your Father In heaven that may share in the Father's business forever. This is Gabriel of Salvington, always in service to Michael of Nebadon. Goodbye.

Elise  
Thank you, Gabriel, thank you for your words and for visiting this Lightline. Okay, let's see if there is anything else. Just give me a minute, and let me look at the dashboard and I see some other internet callers, and Roger Raz has joined us, and Charlotte has joined us, and we have 18 on the call, that includes me.

Van  
Hello, everyone. This is Van. I am passing by, and I would love to speak to you. You know me from my contacts with many of you. I have lived in different cultures on your planet. I have lived in so many different places in the universe. I have had contact with many cultures, and you may wonder if this time of turbulence and war could still be named a culture. But as you know, a culture is a style of living and behaving in a specific time frame and develops, whether with or without peace or war, on a planet, and keeps evolving throughout any given time.

I am Van, and I know much of your cultures, your world cultures. I have lived on your planet for a long time, in times of great culture, but also in times of hardly any progression. I have seen many cultures come and go while visiting on assignments. I have seen beautiful culture come to the heights of its potential, and I have witnessed declining cultures, and it is certainly worth to study those cultures today, their historians, the scientists, the artists, the buildings and constructions from earlier times that are left to inform you about the many different cultures that have been of influence through your culture you are living in now.

It would be wise to teach your children about their inheritance and to offer them readings, poetry, foreign scripts, and symbols that represent the diversity of cultures that we see on your world. Take your children back into history to learn the customs of their ancestors from whom they have evolved into what they are at this moment in history. The past, the present, and the future are all interconnected. Men learnt and gives forth again to the next generation. And so many cultures have their scripts about God, of how they praised and worshiped God in their beautiful temples and churches and how they teach you about the days of the past. By reading and writing the scripts you'll also learn about the influence God has had in history and the importance of God in the life of His people, whether today or back in the history of your planet. For your culture, today still carries the remnants of cultures that came before you. You are a product of your history and of all the former cultures on Urantia.

Man has been struggling to keep his head above water, and many times has almost drowned, but throughout time some beautiful world cultures have flourished, bringing the world a lot of good. Also, good opportunities have been lost, and steps in progression have failed, where man has not been able to maintain its culture because of sudden disinterest or geological unexpected circumstances on the planet. Lag occurs where higher cultures fail to spread their knowledge over large parts of the world, where men could have become more united if the civilization would have instructed the lower ones. But conquest was often the goal of expansion to the point of getting into war and destruction in which any culture suffers deterioration.

Part of the cultures still remain with you in your genes and you will be the bearers of new generations which have learned the lessons of the past to take you to new heights of social, economic, and scientific progression in history which will stimulate and be a wave of new sciences and new religious understanding of God in your life and culture on a planet inhabited by humans. On Urantia, it is also the living experience in your history, where people have the blessings of the incarnation of the Creator Son of Nebadon, that has changed history again and is now at a point of where to go in its future to maintain the valuable lessons for a new culture brought to Urantia by Jesus. And although it may be difficult at times to understand and to know how much you have been blessed by Michael's bestowal to your planet, you will see in times to come. Keep this in mind and inform your children about the history and morals that have made this planet of today. Your culture has taken you where the world is now, for better or worse, it is Urantia's inherited history you all live in today. I am Van. I am leaving you again, and I wish you all a good day.

Elise  
Well, thank you so much, Van. It was really nice to hear from you again. Please be back some time.

Van  
Thank you, Elise.

Elise  
Okay, Just give me a minute, because I sense there is something else, but I'm not sure. I sense something else, and it's much stronger. Just a minute.

The Trinity  
This is the Trinity. We are God. We are One in Three and Three in One. We find Our existence in each Other, and We are God; Father, Son, and Spirit as One in all power and knowledge. We are Deity. We know the beginning and the end. Our power is endless and unlimited. We are always One in all that is and forever will be. This is the truth and nothing but the truth.

Universal Father  
This is Father. I'm coming to you to make you aware that there is a tremendous power in My universe that is working for the development of creation forever continued and for all to rely on and turn to in confidence in present and future situations as you live your lives on this planet, or begin traveling through the universes that I have created to share with the many entities who are all My children, living in the realms of time and space. I am Father, the Source of all. Of you. There is none other. I am and will forever be. I am the Source. I am the Center. I am the Whole. There is nothing without Me, and there will be nothing without Me in the created universes and beyond, in the vast realms that exist where no one goes until I open them to you.

Keep your faith and never lose focus on Me, for your life is in My hands, and I will keep you close to Me. I will protect and guide you, and send you My helpers to show you the way to be with Me forever. I am your Father. Do not forget. This is Father. You serve Me well, all of you. I want you to be good to yourselves and to others who need your attention today. There are so many lonely people who start the day in solitude, they yearn for company, a person to talk to, or someone who just cares. You do not have to travel to those who are victims of war and disasters. They live too far away from you. Remember them in your prayers, but look for people around you, a neighbor or a forgotten friend. You are all humans. You need each other. You were created to form a society, to care and love one another, to create a world of peace in which each of My children can grow into a man or a woman who knows Me, who will find truth, and freely shares all you have been given.

Your world, the material creation is suffering and the people on it, it has been continuously deprived and has almost reached the end of what it can offer its inhabitants, and it's now almost made impossible for her to expand her beauty and offer the wonderful experiences of constant possibilities for a full and rich life. Instead, the planet and its people suffer from war, oppression, and poverty so visibly present on various parts on her surface, where her beauty has been taken away by drying her out, in extracting her fluids, in cutting down her beautiful forests to make way for dry land where the profits from the sales of its trees disappear into the pockets of a few, regardless of what will happen to the planet in its atmosphere.

I am your Father. I am your Universal Father, and I ask you to let your heart speak for you. Go within and seek Me, and you will discover what you can be. Do not forget Me or any of My children, for they all need health and happiness in being able to find and serve Me. All have the right to enjoy this beautiful planet, and all have the obligation to work for the unfoldment and fulfillment of their souls and that of the planet on which they find their existence. I am the Universal Father. I'm speaking here to all who have ears to hear but you live in a world where the concept of a heavenly Father has disappeared so far that most on this world do not even know I exist.

This time is a time of searching for truth that has been lost in the power of your churches that tried to honor God but have forgotten who is truly represented behind the rituals and customs of a congregation that only works for its leaders but gives little to its followers in faith. I am your Father God, and will always be, with or without church. The faith and knowledge of My being is hidden in the soul of every human being. And everyone who longs to be with Me will learn to seek Me in his own heart and know how to express their love for Me and to the people who live and work for the Father so that God will be anchored in the heart of man.

More light will come upon the earth as people begin to realize that all is One, in and through Me, and they will experience this divine connection. They will no longer hate or be jealous of each other and war will be a thing of the past. Primitive behavior will be replaced by their goodwill in bringing people together and promoting cooperation and unity among all people of all nations. I am your Father, your Universal Father. Please bow your heads before me. I am the Father, the Source of creation. Everything has its origin in Me and shall always return to Me. I am your Father. I bless you, My dear children.

Elise  
Thank You, Father, thank you so very much. Well, this is Elise, I do not think we get anything else and this was wonderful to hear from the Universal Father. And I just want to thank so many of you are who are present today and well we have some time left, and before I close off this Lightline, I do want to go quickly to you, Ron, and to see if you have anything for us because you're present here today, I have unmuted you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Elise. I have nothing really to add to your splendid words. I am, of course, tired of the standard routine of speeches and this was so refreshing, I'm almost asleep, not because of you, but because of the balm of the words. I thank you so much, Elise, for that beautiful lecture, that beautiful concern that you expressed through your voice today. I'm going to turn this back, it's one minute to three here, and we are going to close this Lightline down, I assume, when I turn it back. So take it away again, Elise and I thank you.

Elise  
Yes. Thank you, Ron. Thank you for your words and well, thanks to all speakers here, our Universal Father, in particular, it was beautiful to get this message from You, Father. But of course, all the other speakers, Arthura and Machiventa Melchizedek, and we had Van, and Gabriel, I think I have mentioned Them all, and of course, the whole list that's here together with me. I feel very privileged to have been able to do this Lightline. And I really didn't know that it would end up like this. It was a very beautiful ending for all of us, and I thank you, and we'll hope to see you next week. If not, we'll hear it in any new or present schedule. We'll wait for that. Thank you and goodbye.

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Tues LL 09.24.24 ARTHURA. Truth's impact on Governance

« on: September 25, 2024, 09:16:06 am »

• 092424 Audio Tape Lightline USA; host: Dominick Ohrbeck
• Subjects: subjective & objective truth and its impact on governance in time-space Ascension & Descension, transmission is a function of communion in spiritual communication, and our human governance and constitutional guidelines need to be reframed;
• Speakers: Arthura, Machiventa Melchizedek, Universal Father, Monjoronson, and Marian Rowley;
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240924_110051

Dominick  
Welcome to Tuesday Lightline, everyone. This is Dominick, your host, and it's September 24, 2024, and we're hosting these Lightlines. So we say a quick prayer to our Father, and Michael, and our Lord Jesus. Thank you. And we just said our prayer and welcome Donna and Larry, and we ask if there's anyone I can receive in our Lightline today.

Arthura  
Well, if some of you were guessing Arthura, this is Arthura.

Dominick
Let me take a moment to center myself on the transmission wire.

Arthura
This is Arthura. I'm asking this transmitter to open his eyes rather than close it as we transmit through him. We're going to reverse from our morning content and today's theme is communion. Transmission is a function of communion in spiritual communication. Spiritual defined as nothing like the spirituality that your earthly, terrestrial philosophies define it, but that communion is the supermaterial contact between Spirit and mind.

You are endowed with a mind. You are not an inanimate object with an inanimate type of mind. You have a living system, a life endowed with mind. Furthermore, life endowed with a mind and personality. And as such, personality is most eligible to be saved, evolved, and ascended. Therefore is transmission an aspect of communion. And while some of you in the attempts for transmission, too much of a personal or a social risk, nonetheless, all religion of the spiritual source of true reality. And this is Arthura. When I speak of true I know what I'm talking about, but you truly do not.

Communion is a way for you to have experiential validation of an objective reality that ironically is considered subjective because of your finite structure. Your social experience validates this truth as an objective fact when enough people claim to have something similar. But barring any objective reality and truth validation, you are left in this conundrum of faith, which is a testing ground and an educational ground for the soul. You will only have objective truth when divine representation descends from a higher dimension, which we use as a word for you to comprehend the unseen, spiritual realms. And then, even then, are you faced with a conundrum of believing and asking for proof and so on and so forth.

The irony and struggle between subjective and objective truth is one factor in possible universe rebellion. These states exist in local universe creations of time and space. Therefore, are these time and space struggles considered universal. But they are only universal in the time-space realm. The high divine beings of local origin are the origins of human thought when it comes to the subjective rebellion against the ironically improvable objective reality of Paradise Deity and the ultimate design of proof of this objective reality of the Universal Father is placed on the alpha and omega of Sonship order, the highest rung and the lowest rung of you could say species, or order, orientation, of a type of being, populating and habitating time and space, and that order is called Sons of God, and they have the prerogative and ability and design to be physical manifested in time and space, whereas most other personalities of spiritual status do not need physical form in the third dimension of material body, but the lowest order of son actually contains the highest objective truth of the Universal Father, and yet this objective truth is only finitely known through a subjective experiential truth and understanding of each individual unit.

But as you collectively ascend, this is after your death typically, after you ascend from planetary experience and a kind of universal design of educational experience for a soul to habitate a commingling and eventual fusion of this objective and subjective reality into an eternal reality and an immortal reality of an objective fragment of the Universal Source fused with a personality of the imperfect, finite universe of time and space, and this is the only way that the Universal Father has placed Himself or Itself to experience time and space outside of Its permanent residency on Paradise.

Now you need not understand the epistemology of those statements, but that you do understand that there is a typical struggle on any life-bearing ecosystem between resources, and what happens is, you have this intelligence, which some of your modern scientists have deemed to be a runaway system of evolutionary flaw because they refuse to incorporate Spirit and God into their model. But essentially, you have an intelligent and quasi spiritual biological system endowed with mind and these revealed spiritual attributes. And over the years as well, you have had divine influence that has actually rebelled in their own wrestling with objective and subjective truth and reality.

You should understand, or easily understand you are in these fields when people and parties start to talk about rights, freedom, equality, and creation. In your fifth epochal revelation, as well as your best history books you have a clear outline of the origins of civilization and a pretty good idea of where things like rights and resources and states came into existence amongst civilizations and cultures. We have discussed the evolution of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness and we have clear origins that happiness derived from the pursuit of property, and that today you find yourself no less or more advanced than your forefathers in the discussions of the subjective and objective truths determining what are your rights and your freedoms, the equality, and the state of nature of your being. What it means to be free. What It means to have life or liberty or the fact that you are created or designed or have any destiny of life after death. These things are all still in flux in your civilizations, cultures, and down to your education. They matter in your beliefs and ultimately these things influence and help determine your mind again, it all tends to come back to your mind, your primary instrument and vehicle of your will and your behavior.

You can look at a biological system without these super endowments of spirit and see that they have a mind that's conditioned or designed, and it still goes after resources. It still organizes itself as individual unit and collective unit to perpetuate itself and gather the necessary resources to do that. And often, when you look at another layer, you see a design or an evolution in nature where this process plays out in a greater ecosystem that sustains more than just a particular entity or species doing their behavior, but you don't hear them talk about their rights and their freedoms, nor do they have the language. They might simply react but this is a condition of mind, not will.

When you have a will is when you begin as an entity to understand that a will is endowed with supermaterial abilities and then do you enter the arena of Spirit. And then do you enter the arena of a mind capable of reaching It. Until you reach it individually through a communion experience, until that time you are subject to the collective mind, of the conditioning of your mind, and the environment that affects the mind. And so the education of the civilization and the education of the family conditions, your primary thoughts and attitudes and beliefs, which will, in effect, start to condition your beliefs on some of these larger political spiritual terms that determine ultimately the competition for resources.

Politics, in some sense, is the rule, and regulation, and enforcement of those rules and regulations around resources. You get this in family life early on and later on you might have learned this in tribal association. Your DNA is very much conditioned by 1000s of generations of tribal behavior that's deeply encoded in your neurological roots, and only in recent times is the mind in a more technologically advanced civilization where the tribe has evolved into nations, and the nations have evolved into states, and commercial enterprise has evolved from the specialized labor of property value and material, well specialization in adding value to ever more complex technologically or technological devices aimed at resources and labor which do extend to leisure and the pursuit of property and leisure.

We have talked about the pursuit of happiness, and what's very difficult on a planet that has undergone rebellion Is the competing philosophies between subjective and objective truth, and the origin of rebellion is originated in the rebellion of an objective truth that is not experienced by the rebelling creature. But what happens is a process is set forth, inherently in rebellion that dooms the rebellion to sustain itself, because it becomes intractably separated from the ability to experience communion in the way the entity is designed to; whether that happened in the brief moment of a human lifetime, or a well-nigh eternal moment of a System Sovereign who is designed to be nearly perfect, but just imperfect enough that they can rebel and the time commitment involved between a System Sovereign and a little son of God as a human is vast.

The System Sovereign must be in almost faith contact with the experiential Universal Father for eons of time and even then, when the objective truth of the Paradise Sons is before them, are they still left with the conundrum of objective truth of the Universal Father. These descriptions fall into place quite nicely when you understand the Lucifer manifesto and what it is claiming to rebel against, and then do you have the Rosetta Stone to remove yourselves from a planetary environment that struggles yet today with the legacy of this rebellion against objective truth and subjective experience that validates an objective reality. Because the rebellion has removed itself from the Universal Father, you have a dichotomy of two religions that play forth in planetary politics and religion, and this will play across in each religion and each political struggle.

Dominick  
One moment. This is Dominick. Hold on, Arthura. I had a distraction outside. Let me get centered again. All right. Go ahead, Arthura.

Arthura  
All right, let's start a new chapter. We have today the effects of what is called postmodernism, which is the elevation of subjective truth over the proclaimed tyranny of an objective truth, which they claim is ultimately improvable. Now the origin of rebellion takes on a postmodernistic type of logic. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness takes on a different meaning for those who consider life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness when they are rooted in two different interpretations of truth and two different interpretations of experience. The irony is that human beings tend to think instinctively that everyone else thinks like they do, so some of the first eye-opening experiences of maturing into adulthood is the acknowledgement of this type of diversity in human perception and opinion, and behavior.

For objective truth and the truth of a Divine Deity, of God, is the declaration that it is no longer life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness or property, but that it is life, liberty, and the pursuit of soul growth. Property has no place in the postmodernistic agenda. Liberty is replaced as the pursuit of happiness and freedom equated with the right to such liberty. The other end of that spectrum, which we claim is not a spectrum, but a divide. The divide is rebellion or original universe governance, there is no spectrum. The subjectivity of a postmodern rebellion is that they place you on a spectrum, thus legitimizing their place and play in the field, and they have a strong argument because they literally exist on the field.

The rebel simply declares, I am here and I am therefore my contentions are the same, but we tell you from Universe objectivity, that these are not designed to live forever. They are inherently transient in time and space, and therefore they exist, but not on a spectrum. They exist on a finite timeline of evolution that is eventually corrected in terms of life. Therefore freedom is always equated with a degree of citizenship. Freedom is an advanced concept of a spiritual revelation and philosophy of man to describe the concepts of will, behavior, and action, which is derived from the mind; thought. In the family and the tribe this was cultivated, and this is why tribal behavior of 1000s of generations is still very much alive in human cognition today, and the secrets of this knowledge are used by politics and religion for control of resources in its most debased forms, under the noble enterprises, rebellion by the rebels.

Freedom does equate with citizenship because it cultivates, via the social contract, a series of trade-offs between unbridled liberty of a child and the parental rules, and regulation. and enforcement of the parent and now the State. In the tribe, these behaviors were encoded and very dangerous, because it very much meant your survival. If you were ostracized from the tribe, you were pretty much dead. Now, the State. with a capital S, today has evolved as the supertribe, encompassing vast nations, multiple cultures, and even takes on a civilization of its own, or could amount to a civilization. Today you kind of call that East and West, and it very much has to do with these notions of rights equality, freedom, and so on.

There is no such conflict as placed in modern times between this capitalism and socialism, life, liberty and the pursuit of property goes back to farming, and the backbone of the formation of the city-state, as tribes began to cease to be nomadic and began cultivating the land and so you had these new forms of government, but also a new form of labor and property. The struggle is very simple, that before there was Capitalism there was putting in the value of a labor to enhance the natural resources into greater forms of advanced valuable property. And that was the also the birth of the mercantile class, and all of those things were, you could say, the origins of capitalism, which is essentially just an extension of those origins of civilization.

Whereas the opposite end of that spectrum takes on the postmodern rebellion philosophies that property is evil and that there are no truly objective realities except the ironically objective reality that everything is subjective. But the point is, because human beings learned to better harvest resources to create more leisure through technology advancements, do they also needed to create more advanced civilizational rules, regulations, and enforcement, and eventually have created states and corporations and leagues of nations and imperfect super bodies of government.

Ultimately, what frames these things are these styles of education which influence the mind and environment of the early experience of a child once they reach the age of essentially seven, and then through adolescence of early adulthood, which on your planet, is around 22; roughly kindergarten through college. Seven years old is the time where a child can begin to independently function in its physical capacities, for example, dressing themselves, brushing their teeth, doing all of those things of family life that were previously regulated and assisted by the parent or the older sibling, which was delegated such duties, and finally, up until the age of pre-adulthood, where they are finally set free from the nest to figure things out.

So what needs to be done moving forward is that these emissions (missions) will entail, from a human standpoint, a reframing of governance. You could say, a reframing of a constitution that defines these mighty concepts of creation, equality, freedom, rights, and resources, and rules, and regulations, and enforcement. The ships that each of these words symbolically represent are unanchored and drifting apart. Some of the organization around the foundations that have been set up will be utilized to not perpetuate or compete with the fifth epochal revelation but to organize itself around the framework of being about the Father's business. And no one is better done in being about the Father's business than his Paradise Sons, who descend even to your level once in a while to right the ship and correct its course.

But you, you little sons of God and daughters of the Father, must do your part to reframe your most sacred documents of governance and do so in the most communionable way and you will be led to be gathered in a physical building, not a temple of worship, but a sacred space to be about the Father's business and be about the spiritual governance of a planet and the things that human beings are designed and underway on this planet in perpetuating an environment that meets the supermaterial standards of spirit for the education of souls when they eventually meet the afterlife. Just as you have a workforce that is entering unprepared and you see the effects of too much of a population no longer capable of you could say good output of productivity.

Similarly, the universe finds that not all souls graduate ready to be full-fledged citizens with freedoms and responsibilities of a social contract where their freedom demands that they have certain obligations. That is the essence of social contract governance, that freedom has a trade-off of the citizen and that rules, and regulations, and enforcements are part of this social contract. Without such a social contract, there can be no concept of rights, and the postmodernist can claim the existence of universal rights, but eventually, it will collapse on its own weight of unproductive half-ass citizens who no longer are even educated enough to comprehend a way out without some sort of intervention. And the irony there is the intervention happens from the objective reality of Paradise Sons and their governance from both on high and in their occasional incarnation and bestowal to the planets they rule. Thank you for listening. This is Arthura, and I depart.

Dominick  
Thank you, Arthura, but don't depart too soon. We have eight minutes if anyone wants to press five star and ask for clarification or address a concept or ask a question related to the topic, feel free. We have a few minutes to address that, and if we don't, then I thank you all for listening, and we'll see who else joined while we were talking. Charlotte, welcome, and George Meyer, welcome, we say your name, your complete name, George, you're a board member. Okay, well, let's give it to Ron, just to say a few words on the physical structure announcement, I suppose. We are looking to build a physical structure to house and conduct what we were talking about is the Father's business. Ron, are you there? Would you like to speak towards any of that? You're unmuted.

Ron Besser  
Yeah. If I were awake.

Dominick  
Well, wake up!

Ron Besser  
Yeah. Thank you. This from Machiventa Melchizedek.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
I listened to your lecture. It should be a book. It is beautiful, Arthura.

Arthura  
Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
You're welcome, Ron, and I know you are having problems with physicality.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, I'm dying. But may not be today. Anyhow, the future of what Dominick is talking about, I believe, if I'm hearing correctly, will become a textbook for dissemination once the Magisterial Missions are fully involved with this world. I do not know quite where this is coming from, but I know it's high authority. And do you wish to speak to the publication or something else?

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is a Machiventa Melchizedek, Ron, you are a marvel. The truth of the matter is that what Dominick has spoken of is truly a textbook. You fully get it, but what you don't get is the idea that it is so important. You sit there and you play with the ideas that Dominick speaks to and say; well, yes, that is also very important, but I dare you to impose the intellectual power of what you're talking about on any one individual, particularly in the United States, who has a view of life as money and power and no intellectual input into the system of government or the system of care. That is your problem today.

Universal Father  
This is the Universal Father. Ron, you play with Arthura's speech only in the sense that it is so good, it should be a textbook. Well, it is a textbook and it's coming to you. It will be fully printed, please understand that. Dominick, you are repeating parts of chapters of that textbook to come, and Ron, you are the marvel in understanding that it is a textbook.

Ron Besser  
For those of you who are listening, half. I warn you, please. It isn't a warning of uncooperation, it is that you let it go and don't even engage what you hear on Lightlines when you're in your day-to-day work. You separate it. You go to work and you are at home in the evening, and occasionally tune into what we have to say here. The production of what Dominick does is especially good. I wish I could do it, but the universe has apparently decided that Dominick is the intellect they can use to produce this book. I know that we produce a written text of the Lightlines, but how many of you keep it to put together the book that this is being quoted from? Well, even I don't do it because I go on with other concerns day to day that snows over what was done today.

For that particular reason, then the group that is listening to this Lightline should be reminded that the entire reason for it to happen at all is that some of you will take it and make it work. That is Arthura's wish. That is the Father's wish, and it is my wish, Ron's. For the sake of levity let me tell you this: I have done now a Lightline since about 2008. It is now 2024. I've had 16 years of experience with various kinds of Lightlines. They all do one thing in particular, they educate, but the intellectual level of any given Lightline is far different from many of its compatriots. Why? It has to do with the transmitter. I would suggest to you that Dominick is a college professor, therefore we get high-quality education from our friend Uversa, or I should say you.

You  
For that reason, Ron, I am not Uversa. I am the you, you talk to, and you have trouble with it from time to time, because I don't like you when you do this, but you do this for the simple reason that the listeners ought to get the idea that when we do it, and it's a textbook from the college level up here, that Dominick is repeating verbatim. You recognize it, and you laud me for doing it.

Ron Besser  
Yes, I do, because we so seldom get it.

Universal Father  
I fully greet you, and I know you're one of Mine, but this is the Father. You Ron, are not spitting out anything, but you are making sure that we are repeating the necessity of what we want to know you have as importance. For that reason, you listen carefully and you agree with the lesson.

Ron Besser  
Wholeheartedly, it's beautifully put together.

Universal Father  
I agree. Furthermore, Ron, your life is about to be truncated over the issue of how long can a person like you stay alive on this godforsaken planet at times when all you get is the running mate to Trump and the presidential conference that is held almost daily on your news networks. She is excellent, you agree and look forward to her as president, but you also say; isn't it curious that the Americans finally are allowing a female president? You celebrate it. You hoot and holler, but you are concerned about one thing. It is not the same dias as a male president, and the United States is about to go into history as the first imperial female.

Watch it and enjoy it. She's going to have to make some personal changes to be president. And now this: Dominick's work is superlative. Your work is, and frankly, so is Elise's and the others who broadcast. But I want this to be understood. Many who listen could care less. Oh, it's something to do on a Sunday afternoon, a Wednesday afternoon or whenever. But please understand that it takes a great motion from We Who are on high as the Professors. We are not going to continue it so long as this Lightline is only available to 15 or 20. You foresaw hundreds listening.

Ron Besser  
That is the idea. Thank you.

Universal Father  
But the various competitive units have decided that they do better than you do. You know who they are and what they do. Yesterday, you took it upon yourself to write out a transmission about it, and you have folded it back and do not show it. Why? Well, we know why. It upsets the regular view that all should participate, all should take what they can and make it available to the people. You, however, believe that the people are due for much better fare than what we are producing at times, and I agree. But the truth of the matter is, Ron, that you have seen to it that this production of information through your transmitters is superior to almost all of the other transmitters because you place it in the faith and care of the Father.

If the others did as well, they would do as well, Ron. But the truth of the matter is, you have four different groups and of the four different groups, your group is still premier because you speak to the issues. You do not worry about the flatteries. And now this: the truth that we must speak is that these Lightlines are precious to you, Ron, and they are caregiving to us. But in the near future, when the Magisterial Sons take over, they will be very careful about when and to whom they speak on the internet with. Here is Monjoronson.

Ron Besser  
Welcome Monjoronson. Thank you, Father.

Universal Father  
Thank you, Ron.

Monjoronson  
I am Monjoronson, Ron, you are among my favorites because you are the one who finally says; well, we're doing this in respect to what we can do, but what can we do better. To all of you, you wonder the same. You hear the lectures. They are important to both sides, but the truth of the matter is we doze off, not the lecturers, but those to whom we lecture. Today, you listened to Arthura carefully. He had a textbook speech. You agreed that it was a textbook and you wondered what textbook it was. Well, let me tell you what textbook he speaks from. There is on the mansion worlds, on Mansion World Four, and above these textbooks. Are they used? Hardly.

The one you call Marian who sees to the Urantia Book group on the mansion worlds says this to you; Ron, you're utterly boring to us. You're not textbook. So she dropped it. You said; fine, I don't care. But remember this Marion, the truth of the matter is that you're going through a process. You are not living it. The truth of the matter is you're being educated, but you're not being online to produce what that education is meant to produce. You love Marian, you like the group, but they have turned you aside as utterly boring Ron and you don't care.

Ron Besser  
I have no sense of what they want.

Monjoronson  
Truly, Ron. And now this: here's Marian.

Ron Besser  
Welcome, Marion. Go ahead, please.

Marian Rowley  
I am Marian. I used to answer the phone at the Urantia Foundation. Hello. I would say; how may we help you? Oftentimes, it was a question, how to get more books? Frankly, I got so poorly done with it. I just refused to answer and said; well, dear, that's online elsewhere. You have to look that up. Finally, I said, I quit. I left the Foundation five years before I died, you don't know that, Ron.

Ron Besser  
No, I don't. I'm glad you told me. Thank you.

Marian Rowley  
For reasons of state, I am the teacher of a group on the mansion worlds that refers to the textbook of the Urantia Book. We are a poor group. There's only 10 of us. Where are the hundreds, the 1000s who search for spiritual answers and can't find our group? Well, the truth is, Ron, and you nailed it right on with me. The group is a bore. That's because they go with the textbook, The Urantia Book. It is not living. It is instructive. But the fact of the matter is that living on the mansion worlds is the live inference for living life in the universe, and the textbook is only descriptive. What do we do, then, for education to know The Urantia Book or a revelation of like size? The answer is, we don't do it for you. You have to do it for yourself, and that makes a million years in the mansion worlds, boring.

Ron Besser  
Truly.

Marian Rowley  
When you leave the mansion worlds boring is not what we want you to do, but that is what many do when they go to the 20 or so new schools available past the mansion worlds. You're aware of those schools. You have even taught on some of those schools, but you are bored with the mansion worlds and the 20 or so specialties that are education beyond the mansion worlds. For that reason, you haven't dropped out, but you've gone to the new Supreme Court and listen to what's going on there. What is going on in the new Supreme Court? Plenty. We're not going to go into it, but it should be a subject that you listen to eventually.

Universal Father  
And now, Dominick, I'm done with this diatribe, and I turn it back to you and thank you for the opportunity to speak, I am your Father. Please take it. Dominick, thank you.

Dominick  
All right. Thank you, Ron, and I put you on mute. Just if you need to unmute, go ahead and unmute. And just as a postscript, I'm not particularly fond sometimes of being, I think it excuses all of us to elevate me to the status of a professor. Not that I'm not honored by that. But my point is that these things I talk about do merit some questions from us because they're so right in our face for our politics and our religion. It's undeniable. I mean, we have the pope speaking out about issues, and we have, you know, two kinds of schools of thought being presented in our in our politics, whether that's domestic and whether that's international.

So forgive me, I wake up in the morning and I try to transmit, and this stuff does come out. I guess I'm kind of hardwired that way. It's what I chose to study in school, and it's always interested me. So in that sense, I am, it just is what it is, or what I transmit often. But these lessons are sanitized when it comes to the application of inserting them into any particular issue of the day. So it would behoove you to take the risk of answering the question. As a transmitter, I tend to sanitize my personal opinions on those things. But if you were to ask a question that opens the door for us to apply what we're learning in a lesson in the moment. Beyond that, we do, we retreat to our thoughts and we say to ourselves, well, so and so shouldn't have transmitted that, or I wonder this and that. Anyhow, I'm interrupting mid-sentence myself to unmute you, Lewell, I see your hand raised. What would you like to say?

Lemuel  
This is Lemuel, can you hear me?

Dominick  
Yeah, you're unmuted. And, yeah, go ahead, Lemuel.

Lemuel  
I just wanted to ask Ron if I would be allowed to do a light to the Wednesday Lightline tomorrow or to try and do a Lightline tomorrow, perhaps with Michael's approval.

Dominick  
You don't need it, you have an open-ended approval, and you seek Michael's approval for it. You can certainly ask Ron for help in that transmission, but the Lightlines are open to you Lemuel at your discretion, unless you hear specifically otherwise not to. So, it's your call.

Lemuel  
All right, then, let it be known that tomorrow I intend to hold the Wednesday Lightline. All right, thank you, Dominick.

Dominick  
Excellent. Okay, thank you. Lemuel. Is that it? I'm gonna I'm gonna mute you then.

Lemuel  
Okay, thank you.

Dominick  
You're welcome. Okay, okay, so that's it. I think we've said all we need to say, and that's it. We'll leave then on the good news that Lemuel will be hosting his Lightline tomorrow. Pliktarious I noticed you unmuted yourself. Did you have a question? I know you're on the internet so I don't see your hand raised. Would you like to mention anything or have a comment?

Pliktarious  
No, I don't have anything to say. But it was a very interesting Lightline.

Dominick  
Well, thank you, and notice that all internet callers, if you unmute yourself and are polite like Pliktarious was, that's the way we can handle your questions and comments, because we can't. Internet callers don't have the option to raise their hand on the dashboard. Thanks, Pliktarious, and thanks everyone for joining and have a great day bye.

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8

NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: September 23, 2024, 21:08:51 pm »

• 092324 Audio Tape Lightline Netherlands International; host: Elise Sophia Veronica; other transmitter: Ron Besser;
• Subjects: Pleiadians have lived on Urantia, Michael’s plans are proceeding very cautiously, Spirit is amazed that humans will allow others to suffer without providing them assistance, humans are so preoccupied with things they forget God, God does not forget us, Jesus is our example for how others should be treated, Ron’s Adjuster is now an independent Adjuster like Jesus’s became, stay close to and work with your Thought Adjuster daily, and Monjoronson remains the Magisterial Son of record but now goes by Horson;
• Speakers: Pleiadians, Michael of Nebadon, Arthura, Unknown Adjuster, Horson, Machiventa Melchizedek, and Universal Father;
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240923_110034 

Elise  
Hello, everyone. This is Elise. I am opening this Lightline, and I hope we may receive some words from the celestial world. It is Monday, September 23rd in 2024 and I'm your host, as usual, on Monday. I welcome all who took the time and effort to join us. We pray for Father's help to proceed safely and to be protected. And we hope to make contact with someone from the spiritual world who would like to address this group today, and we thank our Universal Father. We thank Michael of Nebadon and all other official celestial representatives who are working so hard to keep us up to date and for the changes they make for a better world for all. I am asking for a clear channel and also now, if there is anyone from the Spirit side to please step forward and speak to us and we thank you. Amen. Well, we have a couple of more people to welcome. Roger Krupa is here, and another two internet numbers. You're all very welcome.

Pleiadians  
Good day and good evening. We are the Pleiadians.

Elise  
Oh, welcome Pleiadians. What a surprise. Speak please, if you like.

Pleiadians  
Thank you, Elise, and welcome to all, we are the Pleiadians, and we come to this place to inform you that something very important is brewing and about to happen on your planet, but Michael of Nebadon and his associates cannot yet be sure if or when to bring these messages out. The thing is that much has changed in Michael's mind when finally the planet becomes almost cleared of the rebels, which is the cabal and other insurrectionists who have constantly caused problems to Michael, to Jesus and the Magisterial Missions, and even to some of you humans in what you are doing as co-workers in God's plans and purposes.

It is now still too dangerous to even speak about certain plans that have to remain secret until Michael of Nebadon declares the situation safe and agrees there is a situation of good standing on your planet, Urantia. We, the Pleiadians, are well aware of what is happening on your planet. We do have the utmost interest in your well-being and the evolution of your planet, to which we feel connected, and where at certain times, some of our people were left to live among you as humans on Urantia, you even carry some of the seed that is similar to our seed for much has taken place in the mystery of the universes, before Man on Urantia became aware of the universe and of the idea of other living humans on far away planets.

Our civilization is much older than that of Urantia. But we have had an interest in your planet since the beginning of the development of humans on your sphere, and we are well acquainted with its important mission and development as a planet of great example, for many future inhabited planets. You also know that your history is very different from that of any planet, and this became even more obvious when Michael of Nebadon chose your planet for his final bestowal, as you have all learned through the fifth epochal revelation, your Urantia Book.

The Lucifer rebellion, the bestowal of Michael of Nebadon on your planet, the self-destruction of the supreme; are all important facts that play a major role in what is happening today and must be concluded in this time on your planet. We see what is holding back the missions and the reappearance of Jesus. We know what difficulties the Magisterial Sons are facing time after time when they are ready to enter the planet. Michael of Nebadon has nothing but opposition since he wanted to begin cleansing this planet of all evil and starting missions as planned.

We, the Pleiadians, are not involved in planetary missions as such, but we are always there to offer our assistance when requested, and currently, we are very concerned about the warlike situation that still prevails on your planet. We are concerned for all people on Urantia. We know what the planet needs, but first, there must be an overall will for peace among the inhabitants, and we do understand Michael's decision to postpone any action until that is achieved. Michael has great plans for your world, and He is ready to go ahead, but not before any of the disruptions have been resolved, and the noise of elections and war have been settled and reached some sort of agreement.

We advise you to hold on to your beliefs and your confidence in your Creator Son; for Michael of Nebadon is a wonderful administrator, and he is so much more that you do not know about. He knows the right time to begin what is needed on your planet, but he has to deal with the many issues and problems that take priority on his agenda, but he knows exactly how to keep this planet a safe and dignified place, which is a huge task, knowing what needs to be done.

We are the Pleiadians. We keep watching your planet to see where we can and may offer our help. We have great experience and a long history to draw on, and we know the traps that are set by evil forces, but we may and cannot interfere in any way with the natural or political development of a planet. We are only allowed to teach and give our assistance when we are asked to do so. We are the Pleiadians. We are your friends. We are your sisters and brothers, keep your trust in the Father and in Michael, his most honored son, Who loves you dearly and is working hard to give you and the planet everything it needs to reach its ultimate destiny. We leave, and thank you for listening.

Elise  
Thank you Pleiadians, thank you very much.

Michael of Nebadon  
And this is Michael of Nebadon. Good day to all my beloved people here. My message will be very short. I can only say we are very careful not to say or do anything before the whole thing and all things are settled that have been in our way for such a long time, we are very cautious in setting foot on the planet, and even more cautious in appearing before you, for spirit has had to deal with too much fooling around with unfair and even childish behaviors and we will not allow or give any room or freedom to those who are not of goodwill, to the Father or to me, Michael of Nebadon, to be around or contact us, or with even a human being that has been assigned by us to do serious work for the missions prepared for so long by the Magisterial Sons and by Michael of Nebadon and by Jesus of Nazareth. This is Michael of Nebadon for today, I wish you a good day, and I hand you over to your spiritual teacher for today.

Elise  
Thank you, Michael. Thank you for being with us and taking the time to speak to us. Thank you very much.

Arthura  
Thank you, Michael. This is Arthura. Hello, people. I am indeed Arthura, and I would like to touch a social aspect on your planet, regarding those in your society who are completely deprived of the basic necessities to support their families, because there is almost nothing available to keep them alive. They die of terrible diseases like cholera because the little water they can get is usually so polluted that it kills them or makes them sick. You on the planet, have your communication systems all over the world. You have your means of transportation that are sufficient and well equipped to reach those on earth who hunger and thirst in places where war prevents people from setting up safe homes, and where children are deprived from education because schools have either been confiscated by the military or burned down, and some governments allow to take the young boys and girls from their homes to be trained as soldiers for their deadly actions against their own people. These are civil wars and are very difficult to interfere with. You have learned not to interfere as long as they're fighting and slaughtering each other over territories, and you let them fight it out until they learn how to behave and settle things in a more civilized manner.

But that does not absolve you from the obligation to help your fellow men in keeping themselves alive in areas of hostility and insecurity. Man's civic duty does not stop at the border and on a technical world like Urantia, there are always opportunities to reach anyone in need and provide assistance in whatever form. In Spirit, We are amazed at the ease of which one-half of the population abandons the other half and does not feel the call to provide help through joint approach of your worldwide organizations as a global aid to strengthen the brotherhood among men. But a difficulty in bringing people together is their disinterest in the world around them.

Today's citizen is aiming for financial gain, for pleasure, and luxury, making men increasingly dependent on industry and the promotion of products and spiritual life of the average person in the Western world is at an all-time low, considering how little attention is paid to nurturing the knowledge and hunger for God in your schools and in other educational institutions, your churches have emptied out due to lack of support for the layman in his spiritual search for clarity and truth in their belief systems. And with that, the attention for God and His presence among the people has quickly disappeared.

But God forgets not His people, even if he finds little response among a population that lives for entertainment and consumption, meanwhile producing many waste products that is creating a major problem in an overpopulated world. And on top of that, shifting the problem to areas that are already struggling. Transport of goods and of production must be stopped and governments need to start to think about better ways to process residual products and find joint solutions for the garbage that is now choking the world. I am Arthura. We observe that man is being suffocated on all sides and that there is no room left for his spiritual needs making him more and more a consumer product, and thereby missing the opportunity to satisfy his spiritual hunger.

In the future, Adam and Eve will have their teachings on such a policy. They will have an extensive curriculum, and they are waiting with hope to offer their teachings on a large scale throughout Urantia, where they will pay attention to all aspects that need to be addressed for a healthy material and spiritual life for all. To live is to give, and unfortunately, life on Urantia is currently defined by taking, and giving is pushed aside as a forgotten gesture. People in general cannot feel for those who are not part of their small circle, and they easily let their own advantage prevail.

I Arthura, am not involved in the lives of the individual on this planet. My job is to assist Michael in his work for Urantia. But in Our observations of your world, a little care and attention given to the welfare of the planet and its people should be the prime premier duty of every inhabitant and social compassion must be instilled at an early age. It's crucial for the growth of a well-ordered society based on brotherhood and serving one another. That is what man must pay attention to, and where social and loving attention is shifted to the needs of man and to his spiritual hunger for knowledge and truth and for certainty that one is supported by the strength of everyone in a society that helps people find their way in the multitude of choices that life has to offer them.

One person cannot change the world, but through a collective consciousness and awareness of the great needs in a world where millions of dollars are being spent on overproduction, it is time to become aware where the responsibilities lie and how to solve these problems and force them to the attention of the governments. Jesus did not interfere in the political affairs of His day, but He himself was the example and a model of simplicity of love, and passion for all people. And He never allowed Himself to ignore the less fortunate who turned to Him in their misery or their quest for knowledge. Jesus spoke and encouraged the poor and the rich, the sick and the healthy, the believer and the wandering and all were encouraged by His words and the attention he gave them.

Jesus was open to the whole world, even though he could not reach it in its entirety. But he set the example of social duty towards others who thereby receive the courage and strength to continue. In this time of so many means of communication, it is easy to offer actual help in all forms, but man prefers to close the eyes to what he does not like to see. Did not the same Jesus teach people to be kind to one another, and even in a very simple way, by treating your neighbor as one would like to be treated. That is the simplicity of the gospel of Jesus that can be lived to bring the will of the Father on Earth and equality among people. Never forget the words of Jesus when you wonder how to do the Father's will, what you do not want done to you do not do to others. I Arthura have spoken of how to understand the will of the Father. This is Arthura at your service. Good day.

Elise  
Thank you, Arthura. Thank you. Okay, this is Elise, and we're with 15 together at the moment. I'm going to ask if there is anyone else who would like to speak today.

Unknown Adjuster  
Yes, good day, everyone. I am an Adjuster. I am an unknown Adjuster, as you call it. I roam the universes, and I interact with many I meet along the way. I take this opportunity to address this group of good faith and intention, as you are all familiar with your Adjusters and how He is guiding you during your life here in the flesh and will be in the next phase of your ascension career on the many worlds and spheres besides this planet. Every day in your lives is a new beginning and offers you a blank slate to start with, still empty, but soon to be, filled with your daily activities.

I want you all to realize how lucky you are, all of you, to start the day with your Adjuster in full consciousness. Most people get up, start their daily routine, and do not even know that they have got so close and can talk to Him. They do not know that they can say good morning to God and to spend their days in the presence of God. Realize what it means to greet God and to make Him part of your lives, to share your sorrows and joys with your Creator, Who will always be there for you in your needs, in days of doubt, often distracted by what you hear and see around you.

Stay close and work with your Adjuster. He is your compass and your roadmap. He is your guide and faithful protector, and He makes your path smooth and swept so that you can walk without stumbling. Give Him your hand, and He will guide you where you need to be and how to find the way that has been set out for you to become an example to those who do not believe and have no idea of a universe full of life and evolution with humans like you, people who are learning to serve God and who are on their way to the eternal goal to reach God, the Creator to whom you will return and find your happiness and bliss. Understand how carefully the ways have been chosen for you that you may enjoy and learn from God what He has prepared for you, that you may experience in 1000 ways, all that his universe contains and has to offer to all who know the Father and wish to serve Him by doing good to one another, by loving each other, and to lend a helping hand where needed.

Man never has to find his way alone. Share your days with each other and support each other in difficult times, reaching out and helping. The Father wants you to learn as much as you can from all that He presents to you and through which you become an experienced traveler on the path that leads you back to Him. Be brave and accept things as they present themselves to you, for every opportunity holds a new lesson to move forward in your career of this world and through the universe, wherever you may find yourselves, to solve the puzzles and to go through the trials that come your way before you can take the next step in the great challenge of life given to you by your Universal Father, the First Source and Center of all.

I am that unknown Adjuster, and I know that you all recognize God within you, and I tell you that before you hear one word spoken, God has already spoken many words to you. You have God within you, but His words are hardly heard. But now that most of you have trained your mind to be still, you have all created the opening for your Adjusters to speak to you and even through you, which means that you can hear God and that you are able to communicate. Every person connected to the spirit within can learn to hear God's voice and many other voices that speak in his name. God has largely disappeared from your society, and so many have turned away from the guidance and words given to them over the centuries. In fact, man has changed the truth many times for his own false reasons, and now there is much confusion on the planet, and absolutely no knowledge about the existence of God, your Father, who created this world for you.

Many beliefs and religions have emerged as people continue to search for the source of their existence. And yes, your scholars and scientists think they have found evidence as to how life began and has developed, but they have always left God out of their ideas of reasoning and thinking as evolution developed, and this is where your scientists are stuck, and they need to change their vision to see the hand of the Creator in all the mysteries they try to solve in order to understand the universe  and its perfect and ever applicable laws. What God creates remains and will exist forever in its origin, but in and to His creation, God gave to everyone and everything the power to grow and evolve into the highest potential that the Creator has placed within you.

Evolution is growth. Growth towards God, growth in goodness, in beauty, in love, with the aim to approach the Creator until you are beginning to recognize him as your God, Who claims His divine powers over everything that comes from Him and is returned back to Him, to glorify Him in His beautiful and perfected creation, which can be experienced and understood through the ever-increasing capacity of your mind. I am an unknown Adjuster. I am here and there and everywhere. I leave this group, but not without giving all of you My blessings to continue on your way with your beautiful Adjusters assigned to you. I bid you farewell, my dear Urantia children.

Elise  
Thank you. Thank you, unknown Adjuster. Thank you very much. Is there anyone else who would like to speak? Well, if not, I'm looking at the dashboard. Well, I would like to open the Lightline to you, Ron, since you are here, you might have some words for us. So please, I'm unmuting you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
All right.

Elise  
Maybe you are willing to speak.

Ron Besser  
Sure.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. You Ron are listening carefully to what Elise is saying. You're making application to yourself, and hope that the others listening really hear it. That Adjuster is your Adjuster, and for that reason, you're surprised.

Ron Besser  
Yes, I didn't realize it because I didn't feel it.

Unknown Adjuster - Ron’s Adjuster
The truth of the matter is, I am now an independent Adjuster, Ron, and for that reason, you are adjusterless, like Jesus. What does that do for you? Well, we can tell you this. It makes you dependent on your mind and your consideration for others. Your consideration for others is fully done, your consideration for yourself is not. You have some plans, but they keep getting pushed back by the situation that you find yourself in. That will end in not your death, it will end and it will bring a species of care to you that you're not used to. What do we mean? Well, we mean, for instance, that your plans for your house will go forward.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Unknown Adjuster - Ron’s Adjuster
And for your means with others, they are considering leaving now for whatever reason, let it go. And for reasons of state, you are being considered, Ron, along with several of your brothers and sisters, what to do about the coming time that is left between seeing the visible Magisterial Sons; Horson and one other that we are not permitted to speak. The one called Monjoronson is really Horson. H O R S O N. He has used the terminology of Monjoronson that was originally assigned to you, Ron, but you mistakenly thought it was assigned to the Son. Not so. But he wound up with the name Monjoronson as a result. You chuckle slightly and say, then we call him Horson. H O R S O N. 

Thank you, Elise, for allowing Me to speak. This is Ron's Adjuster. We are going to change something right now. Elise, you have been truly a godsend to Ron and to the things he feels need to be spoken to and four or five others have also turned to do the same thing, these Lightlines. But We are going to change the Lightline procedures, and We're going to change it in a way that Monjoronson may speak freely. Monjoronson is known now as the Magisterial Son of record for Urantia. Serara is His partner. And Steven Gitz and several others of you are now more important than ever for Ron has learned that there is a dangerous movement apart and moving to you, Ron to disenfranchise anything you do over the lack of money and the lack of facility. No one is going to take that from you, but you're going to die and it disappears. For that reason then We're going to make a statement.

Horson  
Believe it or not, I Henson, (Horson) the old Monjoronson, want you to hear the following facts: Number one, Elise, is to come to the United States and join you in your home. She can live where she wishes, but she's always welcome in the home, there are spare bedrooms. And two, the one that you know as Dominick, is available and ready to join you, but he has had a call from his sister that his Mother has suddenly become hospitalized with a broken back. She fell trying to do something, and it broke her back. He must return home. He's not telling you. And for reasons of state, Ron, We are advising you that your health has gotten rickety. Don't worry about it. It will improve. About eight years ago, you had an evil transient Seraphim come to you and inject you with poison. It's crippled you. But that is being removed, and that Seraphim is removed.

And fully to the rest of you, there have been incidences where you have thought you received one thing, but in fact, you received another, we're not going to address details. The truth of the matter is Ron that the life and times of those you cared for are going to be reinstated shortly, and that includes Dominick. But he has a tale to tell you. We'll let him tell you. And finally, to you, Elise, Ron is adding an addition to the house. It is going to be about 27 feet long and 20 to 25 feet wide. He is going to appeal to all of you for some help. But until We know the details, and Steven Gitz is responsible for some of it, We will remain silent. And finally, to you, Ron Dominick will be back with you shortly. He has been exhaled upon and no further requirements out west, for reasons of state, we let it go. And now this to you, Elise; Ron wants you here on your own free will with your husband if he wishes to come. We're building an addition to the house, including one new bedroom. We will be willing to talk about it. If you would like to come to Pennsylvania and live some of your life here.

Universal Father  
This is your Father, Ron. She will become the lady of the house if you let her. It's a big house, and Ron needs help. And finally, this to you, Steven Gitz, Ron is favoring you to take charge of the addition to the house. Get up here and plan it when you can. And finally, to all of you, my ward, Ron Besser, is going to stay the course and be the leader of all these facilities he has put into place so all of you can use them. He has no ownership but wants to support them.

And finally, to all Celestials who may be listening: Ron is not a leader, naturally. He prefers the background and seeing to it that facilities are available for all to use. He will continue. There will be an addition to the house that will be 30 feet long and about 25 feet wide. It will have a mantle a fireplace and eight chairs around a conference table. You will meet regularly in this room and decide what is to be done for the following: We want a new revelation, a new Urantia Book if you will. We may call it different. The second thing we want to be known is that Ron will have a slightly extended life to take care of all of this. He bowed his head and said; well, thank you. I didn't expect that. You will be feeling much better shortly, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Universal Father  
And fully to you, Elise, you and your husband are welcome here in Pennsylvania, whenever you want to come, we will accommodate you. And finally, this to you, Ron, your life has been more or less a lonely pilgrimage to see to it that things are done and well. You will have a midwayer, Claudine.

Ron Besser  
All right, Claudine.

Universal Father  
And you smile because you immediately get the picture of a closed fist with claws on the end. That's not her.

Ron Besser  
I know, I know it's not, but saying it as Claudine, it reminds me.

Universal Father  
Claudine will have this to say to you. Listen to me and do it.

Ron Besser  
Well, that's fine. 

Universal Father  
You are one of the few who is so spiritually directed Ron that when we order something, it is done. Furthermore, this is to be added: the trial called Pennsylvania may dedicate the land around you as a surreptitious reason to allow Spirit to permeate the state. It is called the Commonwealth, and it means it belongs to all, as We do. Please remember that your God is also everyone else's God and that you need to understand that when We arrive in the flesh to be seen, We expect all to give us a curt bow and bless us. Ron already does it. He's done it for over a month. When Jesus arrives, he bows his head and brings it up sharply. We would love to see that practiced when We are in person and We meet you. And finally, this, before I turn this back to Elise. Ron Besser, you have seen to the facilities of several Lightlines and of several other uses. You're going to be given a radio station to take care of. Yes, Ron, you are hilarious because you have trouble filling the space of one day, much less of seven days a week for 52 weeks. But that is what is going to have to be done. You will learn what the station will be called, and it's in York, and it will be yours.

Ron Besser  
Yes, a good grief. I have no idea how to handle that.

Universal Father  
Thank you, Ron, that is what we expect. Put that addition on. Steven, get ready and do the plans. Don't wait for Dominick to tell you. He's got his own problems right now. And finally, this to you, Ron: he will return.

Ron Besser  
I hope so.

Universal Father  
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
And now Elise that we have scattered the lots a little bit we turn this back to you and your gracious goodbye to the Lightline for today, take it please.

Elise  
Yes. Thank you, Ron. Thank you for everything you told us. And well, I am closing the Lightline, and I thank of course, Michael of Nebadon, our Father, who were speaking through you, Ron, and the Adjuster, the unknown Adjuster, who happened to be your Adjuster, that's a big surprise. I thank you all for being here, all the other listeners, and of course, we thank Arthura for speaking and the Pleiadians. Well, there's nothing else I could say. I think we have to say goodbye and till next time.

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Lightline USA - 01 September- 2024

« on: September 02, 2024, 16:07:43 pm »

• 090124 Audio Tape Lightline USA; host: Ron Besser
• Subjects: the Deity of Supremacy/Supreme Spirit has been designated to replace the Creative Spirit of Nebadon, the missions will resume in about 6 weeks, Ron is the first voice of a new Teaching Mission, the Supreme Liaison will be on Urantia which is the first planet to receive such, and Machiventa will have new responsibility on Urantia and resume as Planetary Prince;
• Speakers: Machiventa Melchizedek, Michael of Nebadon, Queen Elizabeth, Supernaphim 1131211, and Universal Father;
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240901_110036 

Ron Besser  
For the recording, this is September 1, 2024, the Lightline on Sunday by Ron Besser. Thank you for joining and it is Machiventa Melchizedek who wishes to speak first.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
I am Machiventa Melchizedek, Ron. You area Melchizedek. You're having all sorts of problems because your eyesight has been cut back, not by the brain, but by the deities involved to preserve your life. You are on the edge of disappearing, and I don't mean out of sight, but as a life on Urantia. You are having trouble operating and seeing the dashboard, and I hope Dominick is able to do it for you. In any case

Ron Besser  
I can't even tell looking at the dashboard, how many are here because my eyes are so blurred. I thank you for joining whoever you are. I would believe it's most of our regulars and thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
I want to tell you this. This is Machiventa Melchizedek. The truth of the matter is that Ron will be dying in about 24 hours. Don't lament it. He has served long and faithfully, but his time is up as a physical being. Dominick, you know the house and the routines. The first thing you do is call his brother and his wife to alert them and arrange the burial facilities, and that is Mount Rose Cemetery. For your own reasons, Ron, you cannot plan very well because your mind is very dizzy today and you see very poorly.

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
I want you to understand that I will speak the entire time and Dominick, when I am done, I will let you know and you will turn the Lightline off. Ron, cannot see easily. Now this: as your last Lightline in all probability, Ron, let it be known that Michael of Nebadon is making Lightlines permanently available through this process for the rest of the weeks of your lives. There is no end to the Lightlines, Dominick, and to those who operate the system. You will have your Monday Lightline, Elise, as long as you dare run a Lightline. The Tuesday Lightline Dominick is still yours. Please make sure you do it. It's too important to skip it, don't skip. That's for you too, Elise, if you can afford it.

Michael of Nebadon  
Third, I am Michael of Nebadon. Ron is losing his eyesight today. He can barely see the telephone to dial the number, but he did, and he got in fine. Thank you, Dominick, for being a second control. We're going to use you as the final control to turn the Lightline off at the end. And finally, this to you, Ron, the trial that you have is not immediate death. You're 82 years of age, and the eyes are all clouded because the brain's optic nerve is buried in the cortex, instead of lying loose to it. We don't know how that happened. This is the first time you've ever been almost blind. I. We'll try to work it out.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
And finally, to those who are not real familiar with Ron Besser. He has been broadcasting eight years. He has also put up a website and has a patent for an electric plant. If they ever build that electric plant, they have a new concept in electricity. But no one listens when Ron says, we change electrons to muons, and it's the muon that carries the electricity to an antenna on your house, the antenna is connected to your electric box, and it converts immediately to electricity. That is what the patent does, and somehow or other, we're going to move it.

Furthermore, Dominick, you're the one who is going to inherit these Lightlines and the ways to do it. Remember this, Ron is always with you, with the Lightline and the other concerns that this operates well, and with Michael of Nebadon to Urantia. And finally, this for my own sayings: I am Michael of Nebadon. I am the Creator Son of Nebadon, and we own another small part in an organization called the Domicile (used to be called the Dominion). The Domicile, that is five other local universes that have joined with Nebadon to form a new unit, and eventually, Nebadon will be part of it and will rule parts of the Domicile, so that you have an unvarnished view of the universe that controls you.

Now this: today is September 1, 2024, on Urantia at approximately 2:10 p.m. for that reason that is New York time, by the way, we are going to assign to Ron a special voice. That voice is not Machiventa, but the Father Melchizedek. We now have a new Father Melchizedek, the old Father Melchizedek has not died. Supreme voices don't die. But what has happened is that the Universe to Nebadon has said you've got to clear up your orders to Urantia, to the Domicile, and to the system that you belong to, so that they understand there is no longer just a Creator Son by himself.

Let me remind you, in 2019 we had the release of the spirit of Nebadon. She had been broken into a recalcitrant supreme. She was taken from Nebadon and placed back on Paradise for repair. She will never come back to Nebadon. You no longer operate with a supreme spirit. It's just me, the Creator Son. But fortunately, I  have the Domicile, and there are six other Spirits available to me to use in the Domicile. And believe Me, I use every one of them. Nebadon is the first local universe to contain no spirit, no Creative Spirit We should say.

That's because the Creative Spirit has been moved to Paradise and is working there in other networks. I have elected to deal Nebadon without a Creative Spirit for all sorts of reasons. My primary reason is her work is done here. But the secondary reason is, we have invited the Supreme, the Supreme Spirit, to become the Spirit with me, to rule Nebadon. That is an extraordinary change that was never planned, but what happened to Nebadon and Urantia, My bestowal planet, has never been seen before, and that is how the Father has fixed it. Let me review it.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
I am now instituting in Nebadon the Supreme to replace the Creative Spirit. You will see a huge difference in how things go on Urantia, momentarily. Ron will be here. So will be the Supreme Court, and so will other artifacts We hope Ron is able to record for you and place it on the discussion forum. What do we do with others transmitting as groups? They're welcome to continue. Ron reasoned it through this morning and said, I am a little irritated at their ability not to join with other groups to make them stronger. But Machiventa Melchizedek is the spokesman for these other groups that have come online, and I am satisfied in my own heart that they are fine to transmit if that is what they wish. Now this: the trial that we have on Urantia is, I think, just about sevenfold. Let me iterate them. Number one, nation-states are always jealous of their appearance and their operation. Fortunately, the most powerful nation, the United States, takes it easily that a profound democracy includes others when they're ready. That has yet to be seen on Urantia, but Ron envisions the Parliament of Great Britain should share power in the Congress in some manner, I salute him. He is the first person to recognize that Great Britain and the United States are still one. And finally, this to you, Ron, the trial of Great Britain to you, has always been that you left it.

Ron Besser  
Yes, I love Great Britain.

Michael of Nebadon  
I know you do. Not in place of,

Ron Besser  
Oh no, not in place of the United States. That's my home. Thank you. Always is the heart fond of the home, and always is it for America. But I also love Great Britain. I wish the best for her. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
I am fully surprised at the depth of emotion you have for her. We will see to it.

Ron Besser  
The Queen of England has died. Charles is the monarch with Camilla as queen. Queen Elizabeth the Second is on mansion worlds with Philip, her consort. They have this to say, and I transmit.

Queen Elizabeth of England  
Thank you, Ron. I am the Queen of England.

Ron Besser  
And still are.

Queen Elizabeth of England  
Thank you, Ron. Philip and I wish to extend our thanks to you and your care for the queen and his consort, her consort. I have a tendency to say the appropriate words when referring to Philip. He is a his and he is a consort and is part of the government. However, I want to say this to you, Ron, your love of England is now well known. Mother, my mother, Queen Mary, knows of your care and wears a little badge from you, which you put there as a joke, but we see it as the love of England that you have for that too. We are fully extended, Ron. I only adjusted it so that you were the full length on my receiving signal.

Ron Besser  
Yes, I don't understand it Your Highness, but there are times that the transmission is partially riding the right area. It's now riding fully on the right area to receive fully what you wish to say. You are reporting to about 15 to 25 individuals that half believe that you're speaking.

Queen Elizabeth of England  
Well let me tell you this, my dear my dear children, I am the Queen of England, or I was. Death changes that, but not my feelings for her. Ron feels the same. He spent three long years in England, night and day. He loved it, but he loves his home too. He came home in 1968. On Christmas Eve, he received the horrible news that several of his best friends died in a plane crash in the Allegheny Mountains. That remains with him yet. All of them are up here and have spoken to him, but he misses them. I promise you, Ron, they shall be a part of your life.

Ron Besser  
I am so thankful. Thank you, Elizabeth.

Queen Elizabeth of England  
Thank you, Ron. And now this, Ron, you gave my mother, Queen Mary, a little badge. Oh yes, you speak fully to the mansion worlds all the time. We know you well, unfortunately, he can't tell you, it is privileged conversations, but he's done it now for two years, and you don't have a clue what he has learned. First of all, when I came over, he graciously said to me, you're my queen too.

Ron Besser  
I love the monarchy of Great Britain. I hope Great Britain somehow finds to join the governments of Great Britain and the United States someday. They are a powerful unit, and I believe that England is still a part of our homeland. I am fully American, America first, but England was my home for three years. I will never forget you. You're a lovely, beautiful home. Thank you. I

Michael of Nebadon  
Now this, this is Michael of Nebadon. The truth of the matter is, Ron, your three years in England was military.

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Michael of Nebadon  
But you lived on an RAF Air Force Base.

Ron Besser  
That's correct. We were Brits in many cases.

Michael of Nebadon  
And what did you do?

Ron Besser  
Top secret, thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
What in the world did you leave with?

Ron Besser  
I'm not sure how to answer that. My tour of duty was over, and I ended it by leaving England, and that's about all I can say about it.

Michael of Nebadon  
I am referring to what you told the Queen yesterday.

Ron Besser  
Well, my mind is all blurred.

Michael of Nebadon  
You told her, all right, England should be a part of the ruling governments as the Atlantic powers.

Queen Elizabeth of England  
Oh, Ron, that's beautiful.

Ron Besser  
Somehow England should be part of our parliament, our Congress, and they should become united nations someday, somehow, that is my wish for England, and my wish for America. For England is truly the home of the first democracy.

Queen Elizabeth of England  
And finally, this to you, Ron: I am the Queen of England. What is the monarchy to you?

Ron Besser  
A lot of fun. Yes, yes, but I take you seriously. You, my queen, studied the government and were the expert in the parliament that knew how to keep it together and the compromises necessary for the political parties to understand you rule England, you don't rule the party.

Queen Elizabeth of England  
Yes, now you hear it. I hope that that is part of my legacy to the United States, to Great Britain, and somehow to that awful EU.

Ron Besser  
You're play acting me. I had no idea that you held the EU in that configuration. I am not happy with the EU personally, but you had a close contact being part of it. I don't know what it's like to be ruled by the EU.

Queen Elizabeth of England  
My dear, you send that message perfectly well. The EU along with the Commonwealth of Nations, must someday join together with the United States and become the great Atlantic and Pacific powers of the world. It isn't the English language, it's the English government. Many governments in the EU are like England. There's no need for change. But now that you view it, I now announce to you that I the monarch of England, Queen Elizabeth the Second, do hereby cherish you as the first student at least, of the new monarchy, that the governments of Parliament, parliamentary England, and the congressional records of The United (States) someday shall join as one government. You all love England and we all love America.

Ron Besser
May it come true, Queen Elizabeth, Philip, and the lovely Mary. Queen Mary too. Thank you.

Queen Elizabeth of England  
We turn this off, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I am so grateful for your speech. Thank you, Elizabeth and the monarchy that sees so clearly. Good day.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon, Ron. You have spoken a future of the United States and England for about the year 2112. We're not going to speak to it any longer, but enjoy the thought those of you who enjoy England. Ron lived there three years. It's a second home to him. And now this to you, Ron, the entire idea of Lightline was yours with Me. We started it, oh, six or seven years ago as part of the teaching mission. It fell apart, and you alone revived it for this group, Ron. You didn't ask the permission of the other teaching mission subjects. They don't care for you because you do not carry the idea of a teaching mission. Today, you are now the teaching mission and not just a discussion forum. You dropped your jaw, Ron, you didn't

Ron Besser  
Oh, I never expected that. It's going to take some direction from you, Michael. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
And it begins today. You are the Magisterial Foundation, Ron, that spends the money and sees to it that these Lightlines are up and a lot of other information that this group doesn't know about. You are our first Teaching Mission group, and I want you to change the labeling.

Ron Besser  
Oh, we will. I'm not quite sure what that entails, but we will.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron, and that is all I ask of you. Dominick, you will inherit most of this material. You take it seriously and are ready to even take Ron's home as your own. He gives it to you. It is an unusual and not an abstract union. You two have made it possible to preserve the Teaching Mission and all that we hope becomes part not only of the Teaching Mission, but the Magisterial Mission, and all of the teachings that go with the profound idea of a Magisterial Mission, very soon.

Let us speak to the magisterial mission. Now, what is the Magisterial Mission? It is as though I were there on the planet arranging a new era for you to live in. Ron desperately wanted to be part of it, but he can't be because he's dying. He's 82 and old enough to come to the mansion worlds. For that reason, ladies and gentlemen, I the monarch of Nebadon am decreeing Urantia, the magisterial sons and the missions to your planet, a sacrosanct moment of time wherein I pledge my fidelity to Urantia and to the worlds in the system to which Urantia belongs. Urantia belongs to a planetary system today of 619 planets. The truth of the matter is that five people have dropped off Ron because they thoroughly disagree.

Ron Besser  
Well, let them disagree.

Michael of Nebadon  
What we are announcing is that the magisterial sons no longer are going to hold forth on Urantia, but that I shall return along with our beloved Jesus, in about six weeks. The magisterial sons will hold their mission with us while the Jesus Mission proceeds. For reasons of state, Ron, they are joining, they are not leaving. This is an extraordinary session. I want it to be known to all of you. Ron can't count because his device is not working on his screen properly, but we expect it that you have over 20 listeners right now, and for that reason, we have a good enough audience to tell you this, I am the chief sovereign of Nebadon. I am the Creator Son, the creative spirit is no longer part of it, but we have a new deity. That is the Deity of Supremacy that has been given Urantia as His first gift of sovereignty in Nebadon.

This is an immense moment, people. I hope you talk about it, but I doubt that any of you understand what has happened today. Today is the first of September, 2024, it is 2:37 p.m. New York time as we speak this. Please be aware that there is now a new era on Urantia, the Deity Absolute, has declared Ron, the first human participant in the new era as a speaker for what has happened. What are you doing, Ron?

Ron Besser  
I am seeing in my mind, and I don't know why. Lit blocks as though they are dashes, but they're lit and they're blocks, and they are moving across the bottom of my mind with a stalk connecting them, almost in between. But they do not connect the blocks. They move between the blocks as though a connector, but they're not. I have no idea what I'm seeing.

Michael of Nebadon  
What you will see, Ron, when the blocks begin to connect, is that Dominick, Gitz, Elise, and the rest of your board will connect yourselves at 2709 and will become a divine speech and organization to speak my view of the humanitarian overview of what the Christ will accomplish on Urantia. You're the one that lasts. You're the one that takes it seriously. I know you do, Elise. You're not excluded. You are in this group. You need to be in the United States, Elise. Arrange it as best you can, when you can. There are no orders. You will be welcome in his home. And Ron, you are not dying. Yeah, you pulled your lips back a little and say, oh oh, what did I say? You said this. What do you see, Ron?

Ron Besser  
I see the symbol presented in my right eye and slightly onto my nose of a giant silver Angel Fish.

Michael of Nebadon  
And that is the symbol always given by the angels when they are importantly near you.

Ron Besser  
Yes, when I see that sign, an angel of great import is to speak to me or tell me something. I never mentioned it to this group.

Michael of Nebadon  
Let us ask the angel.

Ron Besser  
All right, I don't feel in communication with you yet, Angel.

Supernaphim 1131211  
Thank you, Ron. How perceptive! I am, a supernaphim from the Infinite Spirit. I greet you Ron through the Infinite Spirit. That's why you didn't feel me.

Ron Besser  
Well, whatever we can communicate, supernaphim?

Supernaphim 1131211  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
Please go ahead. Thank you.

Supernaphim 1131211  
So you can identify me, everyone. I am supernaphim, and I give you the last digits of my serial number on Paradise, 1131211. 1131211

Speaker 1  
If I skipped a digit somewhere in there, use the first dictation.

Supernaphim 1131211  
And finally, this to you, Ron, you are the only one on Urantia that has the voice of the Supreme. You did 20 years ago, 10 years ago, whenever. The truth of the matter is that you had difficulty learning to transmit anything you had, let me see from 1988 to 2010, actually 28, a blank period where we refused to allow you to transmit. You finally were able to transmit after Machiventa Melchizedek taught you.

Ron Besser  
That is right, angel.

Supernaphim 1131211  
You have gone through the Teaching Mission without a voice.

Ron Besser  
Unfortunately, yes.

Supernaphim 1131211  
You now have the voice of a new Teaching Mission.

Ron Besser  
I am extraordinarily gratified and thankful. Thank you for the honor.

Supernaphim 1131211  
Thank you. It's the gift of the Infinite Spirit, The Eternal Son, and Father is still stroking his chin.

Ron Besser  
All right, that's fine. I thank you. However long it may last, thank you.

Universal Father  
It will last forever, Ron, this is the Universal Father. You thought today may be your last Lightline.

Ron Besser  
May I explain just briefly?

Universal Father  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
I am almost blind. The problem is that, as they move me closer to accepting work with the Supreme Court, I become more and more less visible, or that is, I don't see as well. I rely on Dominick for so much, and I'm so grateful for him to take care of the things I can't see well enough to safely do. My relations in the family do not know of it. They could care less. So I work with those that care for me, and I care for them. For reasons of state, I'm told to shut up. All right.

Universal Father  
This is Father. Ron, you have not told anything I didn't want known, but they should not know your personal workings because they tend to dismiss what you say as a fabrication. I assure you, whatever Ron has said, its not. He has an extraordinary patent to electrify the world. The best we have done is that a kid in Brazil knows it's real and tries to help. Can you believe it? I think the kid in Brazil is going to get my primary attention if he can connect us at all. Secondly, Dominick, your friend Ron, has been precious to you.

Ron Besser  
Oh, yeah, I couldn't live the last year well without him, he doesn't know that. The truth of the matter is that all of the friends and the needs I have are taken well care of here. I have no need for anything outside. It's all taken care of here, thanks to those I mentioned. And fully to all of those that I don't mention, but who are loyal listeners, and I know by name, I want you to join me when I go over with a little prayer. Ron, are you there? Let me see if I can report back. They're really fussy about that, but Dominick will have to initiate the call, and then the other transmitters get used to my voice if I'm allowed to do it. Michael tells me not all permissions are given, and they may never all be given, but at least for a little while, noisy one wants to be in contact with you and will dictate a Lightline. That is, according to Michael, I can't insist on upon any such thing.

Michael of Nebadon  
And finally, this is Michael of Nebadon to you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Yes, Michael. Just a minute.

Michael of Nebadon  
Ron has picked up something, we think it's from the Deity Absolute. But when he is introduced to me as the Creator Son. He bows his head. I have never had that accolade given to me.

Ron Besser  
It is a student before the Creator Son, saying, I welcome you, Creator Son, thank you for taking time to speak to me.

Michael of Nebadon  
It is an honor given between good friends up here. I allowed him to bow two weeks ago. He didn't know or understand, but he automatically bows when I enter. When you are told to pick up the habit, do it joyfully, when Michael comes into your consciousness, not as a dictation, but as a transmission to you just put the head down slightly and bring it back up. I enjoy the bow, and Ron has done it beautifully.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
And now to all of you at the near end of this Lightline, this is Machiventa Melchizedek. This is a new instruction. Spread it on the discussion forum at least. I am Machiventa Melchizedek. I have been taken from my duties in Nebadon to Paradise. There I am instructed to become what I need to be on Urantia with the Magisterial Sons and the Creator Son. I'm about done with my instructions, I am now assigned permanently to Urantia as a side assignment.

What do I do? First of all, one, I make sure you have the dignity of a paradise citizen on Urantia of developing your ways to be a planet. Number two, I am instituting a new thing in which I allow the Melchizedeks to teach again. In 2019 that was closed off because they thought that we were instituting the bribery of the Magisterial Sons over the Creator Son. That's never been true, and we are going to enjoin, with the Magisterial Sons and the Creator Son, to bring these missions to you. Ron, you are in the first part of the mission already.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you. Ron provided a little scenario here that we do not repeat. He is our first subject because of it. He has invited the planetary government to see to it that the Domicile, that which rules Nebadon eventually, is now part of Urantia and that it is part of the installation of Machiventa Melchizedek as the new Planetary Prince.

Ron Besser  
One moment. For your information. I asked for that moment people, this is Ron. I am seeing with my eyes closed because they water. A huge, dark question that begins at my left eyebrow. The top of the question mark goes over the top of my head, and the period under the question mark rests under my chin. I've literally got a huge question mark on my face. I go back to Machiventa, if I may.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Yes, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Is there any meaning to that or is that crazy mind doing the work?

Machiventa Melchizedek  
No, beautifully stated, Ron. I am Machiventa Melchizedek people. The Magisterial Sons are withdrawing. The Planetary Prince, Mantutia Melchizedek is withdrawing. The planetary Prince of Urantia is withdrawing. In their place is a series of individuals with corporeal bodies, that are the Supreme Liaison. The first planet ever to receive it, to Urantia. You need another Lightline to understand what has just happened. Ron, would you take the Lightline later today?

Ron Besser  
I would be honored. We have a problem because the world listens. Right now it is about, oh, boy, I can't even add now. Three o'clock in the Netherlands is six hours, so you're 9:00 p.m. about. If we make it too much longer, those in the Netherlands are going to be near midnight. I don't know if they can keep awake.

Elise  
Ron, this is Elise, for Elise, do what you need.

Ron Besser  
Well, I need instructed, Elise.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. And it's this Ron. This Lightline is to be truncated in about two minutes. Your Lightline for today, the first of September, 2024, will have an additional Lightline at 6:00 p.m. New York time.

Ron Besser  
I'm sorry, Elise, that put you near midnight, but that is what the Deities request, 6:00 p.m. today, the first of September, I believe. I can't, my eyes are so blurry I can't read the date. In any case, there is an extraordinary announcement coming.

Michael of Nebadon  
I Michael of Nebadon did not intend to ever to say anything about it, but Ron's service is so well done that I want to tell you what is in store for you at 6:00 p.m. New York time today, to join the Lightline, same place, same station.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek, Ron. You're fine. You're safe. Welcome Dominick when he arrives. I want you to broadcast with Dominick in the room with you. You are to use his phone as the connection. He will connect you and put the phone at your chair. There's a reason for this, Dominick. Go over there as soon as you can and learn the reason. What are you seeing, Ron?

Ron Besser  
I'm not making any sense out of it. I am seeing what looks like a barn swallow. Look it up online. They are birds that love barns. They roost in them. They just love being in them. We have a couple. They are a rare bird. You don't see them very often, and a city dweller doesn't know what I mean. But here we have a barn swallow or two. They will only come to a barn. They won't come to the house or the garage or the shop, always to the barn.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
That is you and Dominick, Ron. You will come to the barn this evening because I only speak in the barn now. We will tell you in the coming weeks. Now Ron says, well, I'm dying, I don't expect to see much. But you're not.

Ron Besser  
Well, that's quite a statement. I am seeing a giant, what is it, a Condor? I'm not even sure. We don't even have them around here, but that's more Texas and the western states. Condors are huge birds, black, and I'm seeing a Condor over me, kind of dipping its wings in the air currents. I have no idea of the meaning.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
It's this, Ron. You and Dominick will hold forth with visitors to 2709, that's your address, Sunset Lane, and you will hear what we propose in these missions that we don't want to speak in an open forum. You are already into the missions. You don't speak it publicly. And finally, to all of you, it is now 3:03 here in York, Pennsylvania, and we have used all of our time for the present Lightline. I'm asking Ron, for you to hold a light line at 6:00 p.m. New York time.

Ron Besser  
That is midnight, your time, Elise, and anyone listening in Europe, we're sorry. It's not even dark here at 6:00 p.m. I did say 6:00 p.m?

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
Why am I getting a picture of a clock at 6:30?

Machiventa Melchizedek  
I'm not sure.

Universal Father  
This is the Father, Ron. For my own reason, cut 6:00 p.m. off. You are to open the Lightline with Dominic at 6:30. You have a profound announcement to be heard. Those of you in European time its going to make you sleepy tomorrow, but do tune in, if you can. Ron will conduct that meeting at 6:00 p.m. today. Same place, same station. We now leave.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Father, thank you Michael, and thank all of the technicians that make this possible. That concludes our Lightline Dominick, I would say goodbye to everybody, and if you would take control and turn us off, if you would please. Thank you.

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Lightline USA - 25 August - 2024

« on: August 26, 2024, 16:47:40 pm »

• 082524 Audio Tape Lightline USA; host: Ron Besser; other transmitter: Dominick Ohrbeck;
• Subjects: Michael’s appearance with Jesus is cancelled, others are welcome to Ron and Dominick’s nightly evening meeting with Spirit, and authority without the agency of your Thought Adjuster is agency without authority; 
• Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Machiventa Melchizedek, Universal Father, Domicles - Master Spirit Five, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Dominick Ohrbeck’s Soul, Arthura, Monjoronson, and Serara;
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240825_110051 

Ron Besser  
Hello, everybody. This is Sunday, the 25th of August, 2024. I am Ron Besser, your host.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon, Ron. Thank you for getting online and finally, making something quite worthwhile for your listeners. You no longer have the number of attending and your device is not working properly. There is no way to fix it. They've had the same thing happen to them. We do not know how they're going to respond. In any case, we can see those who have joined us today.

Ron Besser  
It doesn't tell me the number. Mine is slightly broken, but it looks like about 15. I welcome you all and thank you for coming.

Michael of Nebadon  
I am Michael of Nebadon, and because Ron has managed to do the Lightline, in spite of all sorts of problems. I want you to be invited to listen to this. The entire matter over what we must do is now changed again. You had Me doing a mission, you had the Magisterial Sons doing a mission, and you had Jesus doing a mission. All three elements were to be present on Urantia shortly, but I now learn that Jesus is not happy, not with you Ron, but with those who are producing other Lightline materials without the Lightline, they are simply producing a dictation. Machiventa Melchizedek sees to it. This is Machiventa Melchizedek speaking to all of you about his view of the current practices.

Ron Besser  
Well, welcome Machiventa. And thank you, Michael.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa and thank you, Ron, your protocols are perfect. I want you all to know that after today's Lightline, catch a Lightline when you can, if you can Monday, which is tomorrow is you Elise, try the Lightline. See who's available, and go with it as best you can. Dominick, you are on Tuesday, do the same, attempt it at the regular time, and see what's available. If Ron is available, he will supply. If he's not and he is sick, then you try to bring it on by yourself as best you can, and remember, please try. Don't let it go. Follow your regular schedule and do as you have done in the past. Attempt to transmit. I am Machiventa Melchizedek. Ron is deeply aware that we have had a tragedy. It's this: the appearance of Michael of Nebadon on Urantia with Jesus, I'm afraid has to be canceled. Ron is checking to make sure that that is not a bad transmission.

Ron Besser  
My response was; Father, can you ascertain that transmission?

Universal Father  
And this is Father. I do, Ron. Thank you for asking me.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Now this to those who are a bit shocked: the entire matter for the last eight years, has been to prepare Urantia for a transmission from Jesus, and then the Magisterial Sons would walk in and provide Urantia its mission. Today, we learn that the Magisterial Sons have not canceled, but they are waiting for permission from their council to continue waiting on Urantia. Ron spoke to them yesterday, and there was no problem. Today, there is a big problem. The Magisterial Council on Paradise has ordered the Magisterial Son, Serara back home. They are asking Serara, what is going on on Urantia that you cannot proceed with the mission. Serara, of course, will answer them, and then maybe make it available to this list.

You, Ron, are on your last legs. It is very difficult for you to move and be alive. All of a sudden, you're seeing an end. To you, Dominick, you are the heir apparent. You often sit with Ron in the evenings and you plan and you discuss, continue to do it, Dominick. Please put that into memory. If you don't, there is tragedy. I am Machiventa Melchizedek, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Thank you. Go ahead, please.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you. As of today, and that is the 25th of August, 2024 at 2:10 p.m., Eastern Time. We want it to be known that I Machiventa Melchizedek am withdrawing from any further transmissions and will only deal with Ron and Michael for the foreseeable future. Ron will have to transmit to you what I have to say. Further, Michael of Nebadon is closing the last ramp down to Ron. Ron was to receive the Paradise Sons as they appeared and transmit them. We must close that communication circuit for now.

Secondly, you all have been faithful. The people on it today are those that we have seen for years. Your names are known, your cares are understood, and we will not take the Lightlines away from you. We just don't know who the Lightlines will be about as of today. Ron will always be capable of transmitting. He's a transmitting machine himself. He has been attacked unremittingly now for two days. He gets very little sleep, and when he does get up, it's difficult.

Michael of Nebadon  
For that reason, I Michael of Nebadon am keeping my hand in and for reasons of state, I apologize for the break, but we have something unusual here. When I addressed that statement just now, for some reason or other, Ron bowed. He knows sometimes as much as I do, what the Universal Father lets be known. I am being told as I speak to you the following, no further Lightlines are possible. That means you Elise, you Dominick, and anyone else for the foreseeable future. Ron will be the only one transmitting, and it remains on Sunday.

You have a Lightline this Monday, about 24 hours from now, Elise. I suggest you go online and try to connect. We'll try to connect you up, but try it. Don't quit yet. The same for you on Tuesday, Dominick. Lemuel held it on Wednesday, if he can still hold it on Wednesday, try it. Ron will always have the Lightline on Sunday.

Now this: the trial that Ron is going through is that we have pulled his vitality center, that is a number of cells on the brain stem near the tip, if they are ever effaced or moved or changed, the vitality you feel for living into the next day disappears. They were pulled on Ron this morning, and he felt terrible. He leaves it alone. He does his chores, but he is wondering where his vitality has gone. He insists on a Lightline, that is our communication to all of you at the same time. I Michael of Nebadon will always transmit a Lightline through Ron. I'm asking him to do it on Sunday only at 2:00 p.m. where you are now. The other Lightlines, Elise yours is tomorrow morning or at 2:00 p.m. today, it's dark where you are. I'm asking that you Elise attempt the Lightline. Don't put it off, please. Dominick, don't worry about the Tuesday Lightline or the Wednesday. Ron, I'm asking you to do a Thursday Lightline.

Ron Besser  
All right.

Michael of Nebadon  
And finally, this to you, Dominick, see to the visitations at 2709 religiously for the next week. Very important to you and to Ron. Let me repeat it. Please visit with Ron today and the next six days, because I have something very important to engage you with. Don't rush it. Be your natural self and Ron's fine with that. And finally, from Michael of Nebadon, let me tell you something that's quite a secret. I am no longer concerned with Urantia. It's a difficult planet. Manjournson has assigned to him; Serara, Hanson,

Ron Besser  
just a minute, I am getting Domicles. That's a new word. Is that correct?

Michael of Nebadon  
That is correct, and He is not a Magisterial Son, Ron. Domicles, is a Master Spirit name for Master Spirit Five.

Ron Besser  
The power Master Spirit.

Michael of Nebadon  
That is correct. Thank you. Look it up, why Ron says that. Now Domicles, D, O, M, I, C, L, E, S, has this to say.

Ron Besser  
Welcome, Domicles. Go ahead, please.

Domicles - Master Spirit Five  
Thank you. I am Domicles. I am a new name and a new personality. Ron, just wrote the name down so he doesn't forget it. This illness fools with the mind, and he sometimes forgets. Today, Dominick, make sure you get there on time. It's important for Michael, you, and Ron to understand what is coming. I will also say this to all of you: Ron holds a meeting every night for the past two years with Dominick to make sure they are on the same page. We need a third person to attend. Is there anyone who will come to York and attend on a nightly program where we inform Michael and Ron what is to happen next, every day, seven days a week, for about two hours. They are rich in hearing the Creator Son, Gabriel, and one or two other Sons, plus the seraphim. That meeting should be extended to at least three others. Those of you, perhaps Steven Gitz should learn that you would be included in those meetings nightly if you can get to York and live there. That's asking a hell of a lot, but the invitation is now open. Ron will live.

Ron Besser  
Ron says, what does God know?

Domicles - Master Spirit Five  
In any case, this: Ron, you idiot, the one called Monjoronson, is ready to be yours. 

Ron Besser  
What do I say to the council?

Domicles - Master Spirit Five  
You don't say anything? In any case, Ron, thank God you're nuts. The Trinity is assigning you to the Supreme Court when you go over. You have been in deep conversation with Ginsburg for weeks now. She is running for the hills, but she accepts you.

Ron Besser  
I'm not so sure she needs two marriages. I'm sorry you have to give up your first husband.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
This is the head of the Supreme Court. I am Ginsburg of the Supreme Court of the United States until about eight months ago when I died. I have been appointed to the Supreme Court of Urantia. Ron has been assigned to the Supreme Court with me. I, of course, am over him, and for that reason, Ron

Ron Besser  
I've been very good.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Haven't you. The truth of the matter is he is one of the few Americans that I can tolerate because he's funny. He makes the work here enjoyable, and I look forward to doing my work with him. And now this: because Ron, you are who you are, I am asking the Father to assign to you someone else when they come over. Who would you normally pick?

Ron Besser  
Normally it would be Dominick, but he has choices of his own. I must agree that it has to be his choice too. So, Dominick, you are free.

Dominick Ohrbeck's Soul  
Thank you, Ron. I am the soul of Dominick. You have taught me much, but I must be part of my family unit, the Orbecks. They are insisting that I join that family group when I do come over. You are not my ward, nor are you my boss, but I will make every effort, Ron, to join with you when I am free to do so. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Well. thank you, Dominick. The soul of Dominick has spoken. And now this to you, Machiventa, I have no real sense of my worth. Machiventa, I assign myself as best as my superiors believe I should be assigned. I have no particular reason to choose one over the other at this time, I am at your service. Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. People, you are hearing something very unusual. I think Ron is near death. He feels it. He can't quite clear his mind, but he's getting there. I, Machiventa Melchizedek will see to it that the path remains clear, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you. The truth of the matter is he's made severe enemies out of the angelic realm and the Vorondadek realm. They believe he thwarted them from taking over Urantia. No one can hear that, Ron. good.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael, Ron. You're one of the few that has joined me in this battle. I'm keeping you. I'm not going to hold you by your feet and hit them, but close to it. The Supreme Court on Urantia is headed by Michael of Nebadon, and as a result, he is aided and abetted by the Magisterial Sons; Monjoronson and Serara. And you properly bowed to them, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Oh, they've been wonderful people to know. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
They consider you one of the best ever on Urantia. They will use you. You have quite a career on the mansion worlds, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I look forward to it. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
It be possible that it's years before you go over but Dominick must assume some responsibility. You'll talk about it this evening between you two.

Ron Besser  
I look forward to it. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. And Dominick, make sure you get your legs over there before dark. It's important. And finally, this to you, Ron: you are one of the few that has generally made communication possible in great detail. You won't stop.

Ron Besser  
Can I go over?

Michael of Nebadon  
Yeah, there is old and then there is very old, right?

Ron Besser  
Yes, that's what I'm concerned about.

Michael of Nebadon  
And this: you'll have a normal lifespan.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon  
And this to you, Dominick, you find yourself bored to death at times with the assignment. Ron depends on you in spite of that boredom. You are always ready to go the extra mile for him and he for you. See to it that you do not break the habit. It's too important. Furthermore, Gitz you belong in the group in the evening. Get your legs and whatever's attached to them, to York as soon as possible and join the daily evening contact and discussion. It's important for you, for them, and for me, Michael of Nebadon. Come alone. Don't drag anybody else with you. And finally, this to you, Ron: you're going to live a life of promise, mostly, but there will be a few things assigned to you. Don't go to Lancaster for commiseration. You will not get it, nor any of that family. They are done.

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you for telling me explicitly.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. Thank you very much. And truly to you, Dominick: you're bored to tears with the process. It's not going to last too much longer. Stay there and do your work. It will make a huge difference to you. And finally, to you, Gitz: get there if you can. Don't kill yourself doing it, but get there. And finally, this to you, Ron:

Ron Besser  
I'll call him for you. He's here. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
I want you to understand that you are the idiot that can make things work. I have spoken to the Supreme Court. She is delighted to know you and work with you.

Ron Besser  
And I am delighted to know her and work with her. I suppose she is the epitome of what a Supreme Court should be, and I serve in any capacity You desire. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
I am fully unaware of who she is, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Down here she was Ginsburg.

Michael of Nebadon  
Oh, yes, some of you actually recognize the name. She was a lady on the Supreme Court that died about a year ago. For that reason, she has been assigned Ron to teach the Supreme Court to him, he would love it. The truth of the matter is, so would Dominick. But Dominick, you don't know

Ron Besser  
I can't repeat the word.

Michael of Nebadon  
You don't know quite what you are about yet, and for that reason, stay the course, it will become apparent. And finally, to you, Ron: you will own 2709 for years to come, don't give it up. You must stay the course with Dominick, and for that reason, with Gitz, if he can make it to York. Others will be welcome to York for a dinner and for other conversation, if you would like to have it. York is oh the meeting place, at least for those who work the Magisterial Sons and the Master Son, Michael of Nebadon. And finally, to the rest of you: 2709 Sunset Lane in York, Pennsylvania is a home for you, too. If you're ever visiting, come and we will have an evening together.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
And now this: this is Machiventa Melchizedek. You have about 25 minutes to go, but we have run out of the important information. Is there anyone here that would like to transmit and fill the space of time for me?

Ron Besser  
I'm going to unmute you briefly. Does anyone wish to speak up to take a transmission? Is there anyone there?

Dominick  
Yeah, the second one, Ron, this is Dominick.

Ron Besser  
Oh, I think I know you. Yes, Dominick, would you take the transmission and then pass it back to me when you are ready? Do you have do you have controls?

Dominick  
Yeah.

Ron Besser  
Okay, well then take it.

Dominick  
All right, everyone's muted again, and my line's open. Thanks, Ron for the opportunity, and just give me a moment.

Arthura  
This is Arthura with the subject keyword being incremental. Evil often happens in incremental amounts through compliance with authority in small incremental bites. Evil is never overtly seen to be confronted and slain with a sword these days. The spell must be broken. Your mind is Adjustered. It is indwelled with God. The spell to be broken, to release your freedom of a relationship with The Divine releases the spell of trauma, dependency, repetition, and the proper invocation of symbols and ritual.

Furthermore, the awareness of electrochemical distribution of your conditions and your emotional responses. The missions of spiritual nature will release the evil of incremental disassociation for a new approach to break the spell of rebellion. No longer will there be the prefix of incremental. The new symbols will be related to discremental, comcremental and arc or archcremental. Overall, you will learn that God is archcremental. Authority without the agency of your Thought Adjuster is agency without authority. That is how I like to leave, the word was leave, you with that little riddle today. This is Arthura, and I bid you all a good day.

Dominick  
Back to you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Thank you. Thank you, Dominick.

Monjoronson  
This is a Magisterial Son speaking. I am Monjoronson. Ron was relaxed and waiting for you to go on for 30 minutes, and was surprised to learn that you passed it right back to him. That's okay, and thank you for what you've given us, Dominick. I asked that you, Ron, be brought back in for a particularly good reason, and that is to speak generally to this audience. We are quite sure that you're being heard, Ron, but your facility is misbehaving.

Ron Besser  
Yes, it is, there it is. It's brought back.

Monjoronson  
Now that you see yourself speaking, we can continue. Did we make it otherwise?

Ron Besser  
Yes. All right, go ahead, please.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
The truth of the matter is, I am a Magisterial Son too. I am Machiventa Melchizedek.

Ron Besser  
All right.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Yes, you're bemused at my power.

Ron Besser  
Yes, no, and I'm glad you can surprise. Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
I am also one of the few Ron that is quite sure that you will be quite a figure on the mansion worlds, as long as you have to be there. The trial that is that you will be on the Supreme Court. She doesn't know you. No, to get her to smile you don't have to tickle. Thank you, Ron, we'll manage it somehow.

Ron Besser  
Well, please see to it.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
And this is Geissinger or whatever passes for my name, Ginsburg.

Ron Besser  
There we go.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Now, you Ron, have a problem.

Ron Besser  
I can barely see.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
That, plus this: you are not easily designed to be with me.

Ron Besser  
Oh, well, you're a clown.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
I am not a clown. I want you to understand that it is illegal to do that to anyone speaking to you. But this: I am not sure that you are one of the most valuable persons I've ever run into. You are not against anything, but when the authority is so heavy and it crushes you. You come back with humor.

Ron Besser  
Yes, that's one of my best bones.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Yes, thank you. Yes, I see they are.

Ron Besser  
Yes, all nine of them.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Yes.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon.

Ron Besser  
There, there ginger.

Michael of Nebadon  
And now this: this is Michael. She greets you, Ron, and welcomes you to what will be the Supreme Court.

Ron Besser  
Oh, I do look forward to learning. I don't think I have it in my background enough to be usable easily, but I really appreciate being able to serve in such a high institution. Thank you very much.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, beautifully spoken. The truth of the matter is, Ron, I don't know what to do with you.

Ron Besser  
Well, I am also a papoose.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. I am not going to carry you on my back.

Ron Besser
And who are you to stop him as a Creator Son. I've heard of him.

Michael of Nebadon
Yes, Ron. Will you please be still! Machiventa Melchizedek has a special award for you.

Ron Besser  
Is it a boot?

Machiventa Melchizedek  
No?

Ron Besser  
I don't blame you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
That's all right, Ron, it's this. Ginsburg is one of the best judges on the Supreme Court to ever have appeared. Death cut her short, and she is going to live up here as the head of the Supreme Court as soon as she acquires all of the requirements. For that reason, you have a human finally in charge of justice for Urantia. She is highly qualified. Stuff it, Ron. And you are glad to assign yourself to her.

Ron Besser  
I am very carefully assigned. Only she knows how to spank.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you, Ron. I am not going to do that now, but I will if you force me to.

Ron Besser  
Of course.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
And now this: you, Ron, are not coming over soon. You have your own time to finish with this Lightline in about five minutes. You and Dominick have been close friends. You get together almost every day and talk about what has happened and what is to be assigned. You and Dominick know thoroughly what is to be done. We need at least four people meeting in the evenings with Ron. Gitz, you belong up here. See to it if you can, and if you can't, it's okay. The fourth person we are leaving out of question right now. In any case, it's a nightly report that you do together, and you receive our instructions. Dominick and Ron have done it now almost for two years. It's well-established.

And finally, this to you, Ron, must go the last word. We're going to cut this Lightline, off just a little early, and that's because we have finished what we've had to say, and I don't want Ron going on and on. First of all, to all of you, Ron established the Lightlines out of pure penury. He said no one was producing the voice of God anymore. We've got to find a way. So he figured out; form a discussion forum and then place the speeches of these meetings with us as part of the agenda with as many transmitters as possible. It has done splendidly, Elise, Dominick, Rene,

Ron Besser  
and the gal, I can't quite name, Augusta, Georgia. No, it's Amethyst.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
You have a memory like a sieve. It's Amethyst. All right, Ron, goodness, and all else who have passed through this portal. The truth of the matter is, Amethyst could do it, but she doesn't want to. That's all that's preventing it. And finally, this to you, Ron: you're about to lose one or two of your favorites. Lemuel, I don't know if he made it this time or not, but let's assume he has. Lemuel, you, and Ron will soon go over, and the rest of them under Dominick will prevail. When that time comes, you will know it.

Second of all, these Lightlines were not your original idea, Ron, but they work so well that you've revived them and made them possible again. You now have three or four that are dependable and are usable. Elise, make sure you continue, and the others, you know who you are, continue. You're coming up to the critical moment. It's critical because you are the only voice left. You'll see it. And finally, to you, Ron: because you are the one that instigates almost all this. You're too valuable to just throw in a grave. You will go by transit to the place of assignment. Thank you. You thought you were being joked with.

Ron Besser  
Yes, and I apologize. Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
For that reason, Ron, this: you are the American emeritus of all that should be heard, the principal Magisterial Son has this to say:

Monjoronson  
I am Monjoronson. I am not only a Magisterial Son, I am now partaking of the Creator Son. And you bow to me and are surprised.

Ron Besser  
I never know what's possible. I never would have guessed that was possible, and thank you for sharing it.

Monjoronson  
Thank you, Ron. Thank you. You think it's very important that those who speak to the human side of things be very clear who they are and what they have to say.

Ron Besser  
It's a great learning experience. The average person would never know. Couldn't even guess, Monjoronson, without you saying so. You're very important. Thank you. As is Serara. Oh, yes, it was Serara I met first.

Monjoronson  
Yes. Thank you, Ron. Yes. And finally, to all of you, we are going to continue these Lightlines on Sunday, you Dominick, will continue with me, off and on. You all will continue with the Creator Son. Elise, you have a new name to appear soon. Just do it. Don't worry it. And for you Gitz, get your legs up here. That's being polite.

Ron Besser  
It's two of everything.

Monjoronson  
Yes, Ron. Thank you. And finally, this to all of you, we have reached the end of this Lightline for Sunday, August 25th, 2024. We're going to maintain Ron as best we can. Every Sunday will be his. Every Wednesday will be Dominick. Every Monday will be Elise. Who fills in on Tuesday, which is Dominick, and who fills in on Wednesday we're not sure, but Lemuel, as long as you can, take it.

Serara  
And finally, this to all of you. I am the Magisterial Son of record. I am not Monjoronson. I'm Serara.

Ron Besser  
Glad to know that Serara, and welcome.

Serara  
Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
And great success. My life depends on it.

Serara  
Yes, Ron. He said, with a mild scalp, thank you. I fully understand my responsibility.

Ron Besser  
We are grateful.

Serara  
And to all of you, thank you for being an audience of good cheer and laughing along with us. Ron is famous for cutting loose. It's because his nature is of that variety. He will be used well, not only as a spokesman with us, but he will maintain these Sunday Lightlines with all of you as long as you want them. Thank you Ron, and you Dominick must attend Lightlines wherever you are on the same day.

Monjoronson  
I am Monjoronson to you, Ron and Dominick, you two get along so well, we think that you belong together in future service. That's up to you, Dominick. Ron has already determined you're more than satisfactory for him. But when the time comes, look to it. And finally, to you everyone that ends this Sunday's Lightline for August 25, 2024, at 3:00 p.m. Thank you for attending, and good day.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Henson, Monjoronson, Serara, Michael, and those who make this Lightline possible, the batteries, the institutions, and the care of all sons. Thank you for making it work for us. I am most grateful and see us again here on Sunday Lightline when the time comes. Thank you and goodbye.

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Lightline USA, 4 August, 2024

« on: August 06, 2024, 12:40:19 pm »

• 080424 Audio Tape Lightline USA; host: Ron Besser;
• Subjects: an earlier Lightline due to Michael’s need to be elsewhere, revelation is the work of Thought Adjusters whose number begins with 13, and those beginning with 17 will work with the Supreme Court;
• Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, several Thought Adjusters, Creator Son 171415, Master Spirit 2, Universal Father, Machiventa Melchizedek, and Rayson.
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240804_090246 

Ron Besser  
This is an early Lightline for Sunday, mainly because of the confusion that is perpetrated by Michael being on Urantia today. He is very attentive, and he is here. And without further ado, I'm going to transmit him just to prevent my confusion coming in. Go ahead, Michael, if you will, please.

Michael of Nebadon  
I am delighted Ron, you handle it this way. The truth of the matter is that the cabal is trying very hard to knock you off the air. They see what you have to say. They're trying to remove you. And we're not going to permit it.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, this is Ron, I can't see any of you because the device that I use is either broken or I can't bring it up. So I'm using Dominick's sight and hands to control the broadcast. And with that said, Michael, I return this to you for what you wish to say. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. Always a smooth one. Now this to all of you: I am Michael of Nebadon. And for that reason, I want you to understand perfectly well, what is happening, Ron has not been able to raise his dashboard or use the telephone properly. Number one, because we have removed the memory of how to do it. Number two, we don't want him using his telephone but using connection with help to Dominick who has a much more robust way of transmitting. He has it better than Ron does at the moment. For that reason, we are using Dominick's facilities. Ron is connected to Dominick and Dominick is the one who is broadcasting. A little confusing, but that's the way it's working. Now this to all of you: Ron can't tell who's on the dashboard.

Ron Besser  
I assume we have about 10, Dominick.

Dominick  
That's right. 17, now.

Ron Besser  
Well, almost double. All right. Thank you very much, Dominick.

Michael of Nebadon  
To you the 17: We have an important Lightline today. As much as they tried to disrupt it and even came in on Ron's phone and broke the connection. We are connected through Dominick very well. And thank you, Dominick. I am Michael of Nebadon. Welcome to all of you. I want you all to know that today's Lightline may be the last for a couple of weeks. Ron will let you know when he knows.

Why? I have been informed by Paradise that the Lightline series is greatly appreciated. But that the cabal is trying to enter it all the time and is making it very difficult for Paradise to control its portion. Paradise listens. Paradise wants to know what is said. Paradise is happy that you hold these Lightlines and please let me yell it if necessary. Continue, please continue with your Lightlines. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and any other Lightline we can get. Today is Sunday at 12:07 p.m. as I speak. At least that's the time on Ron's computer now.

Ron Besser  
I beg your pardon.

Michael of Nebadon  
The trial that we must address is this. Ron has not contracted any disease but his eyes are very gravelly, he has trouble seeing, his breath is short, and they're trying to kill him. He refuses to even address them. As a result, they are pressing down on him and making it exceedingly difficult to hold normal communications. Today he wrote Elise, but Elise, you have not received it because the cabal has cut it. Ron, rebroadcast it later today when we tell you. You detest what they are and so do We. They cannot get in. And we leave it that way for now. What are we going to do? This is promotional Lightline speaking. The Lightlines will continue here if we can keep them going.

Ron's telephone is a mess because they've entered it and made it very difficult. They did not take into consideration that Dominick could transfer it. That's what you're listening to. And now this: thank you, Dominick. You have an appointment with Ron later today for the store. I'm telling you, it's difficult. Talk about it when you get here. Don't necessarily go to the store. We'll tell you why. And now this to the rest of you: the appointment today is moved up two hours. Ron says; are you sure you want to move it two hours? I said yes because I am leaving Urantia as soon as I'm done with this broadcast.

What I want to say and I hope you all take it to heart. I will return. Jesus will return. Right now we've got to take care of a rebellion and we will not be merciful. Second, we are no longer interested in broadcasting to anybody. I don't have time. I am assigning Gabriel to deal with most of you who broadcast. I will broadcast directly from this station as often as I can. Ron's work is exemplary. And for that reason, I stick with him. He smiles and bows. Thank you, Ron. 

And now this: I am the Creator Son of Nebadon. My voice is heard system-wide and we also have the Dominion. Don't forget the Dominion. It is six S I X other local universes who have joined with Nebadon in a new government. Please hear that. We have formed a Dominion. That's what we call the new government. Nebadon is still Nebadon. It is still designed the same. But we are now including the Dominion. Ron is fully delighted, has known about it for three years at least, and works with it when he can.

What is the Dominion? It is five other local universes, people. They join with this speech. They hear the broadcast. And they know Ron. Ron is greatly pleased and is very happy about the Dominion and supports it thoroughly. He thinks it's great. But Ron, you are such a new being you need training first. When you are trained thoroughly and that means probably a graduate of the mansion worlds, your friend, Dominick, and you will join together in the first humans to work with a Dominion. You are so happy.

Ron Besser  
Yes. And honored. Thank you so much for the chance to work for you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. All of the Creator Sons and there are six of them.

Ron Besser  
Oh, my. Yes, six of you, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon  
And clearly, Ron, they are of the same issue.

Ron Besser  
Well, I love to them. You're wonderful, Michael. They must be just as wonderful and I look so forward to having contact. Thank you very much.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron.

Creator Son 171415 
This is Creator Son number 171415. I am the Creator Son of a name of a universe you do not have, Ron. In any case, I will refer to me not by name but Creator Son 171415.

Ron Besser  
Yes, just a minute. Creator Son 171415. Are you part of the Dominion?

Creator Son 171415 
No.

Ron Besser  
All right. I'm making a note of that. Thank you.

Creator Son 171415
The truth of the matter is Ron your Lightline when it is held is a tour de force. Not only does Michael of Nebadon appreciate it but so do we. There are five local universes who tune into you, Ron, and the questions or the responses from each of you. You are now no longer sequestered to Urantia but we listen to the Lightlines that Michael holds on Sunday. Ron, you made it because of Dominick.

Ron Besser  
Thank goodness for my brother, Dominick.

Creator Son 171415
Thank you, Ron. Here is his Adjuster.

Thought Adjuster 1315271592
I am Dominick's Adjuster number 1315271592. Your Adjuster number is 1314271782 They are not evenly closely aligned. But notice the 13th to start the serial number. That is of a particular source and department of the Creator Sons that allows them to use you as they will.

Ron Besser  
Why am I not a star?

Thought Adjuster 1315271592
I don't know, Ron. In any case, let me finish. The truth of the matter is, anybody with an Adjuster serial number that begins with one three has a special obligation to hear a transformation that we are going to make of those on Urantia whose numbers begin with one three. Those are serial numbers of your Adjusters, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Thank you. I forgot already. It's bad. And I thank you.

Thought Adjuster 1315271592
Thank you, Ron. Let me repeat. Anybody who has an Adjuster that begins with the number one three is subject to revelation unending. You love it, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Oh, I do. It's wonderful to be included. Thank you.

Thought Adjuster 1315271592
Why do you say included?

Ron Besser  
To be part of a group of brothers and sisters that share my love for revelation and its work. If it hadn't come along, I would be dead by now. I just have no great interest in what Urantia has to offer.

Thought Adjuster 1315271592
A most revealing remark Ron. Your Adjuster number and write this down.

Ron Besser  
My Adjuster number is:

Thought Adjuster 1315271592
1315271715. The 13 refers to revelatory work. The next two numbers, one five, refer to the department you are assigned. I can't tell you what they are, they are top secret.

Ron Besser  
I can't spell secret.

Thought Adjuster 1315271592
Yes. All right. Now the next six digits of what I've told you are your serial number which are 271715 are strictly your appearance.

Ron Besser  
All right.

Thought Adjuster 1315271592
We dare not tell you what your appearance is about. But Dominick your Adjuster serial number is 132715965. That is 1327 and that's right Ron 15965. That is almost identical in meaning for your destiny as Ron's. Anybody that has a serial number, and that's an Adjuster serial number, beginning with one three deals with revelation for their career, even on Paradise. You ought to remember that once you know your Adjuster number. I'm not at liberty to provide any more numbers here. I know you're dying to know, but we daren't put it out by this person. And now to you Dominick: you have been a friend and support Ron as he ages and has trouble remembering. He has been corrected in mind. The body is a mess because of a disease we introduced by accident. We are going to attempt to remove it. If we can remove it, his legs have feeling again.

Ron Besser  
I am grateful and thank you.

Thought Adjuster 13241715
Thank you, Ron. And finally to all of you: I am Adjuster 1314271782 not, I am Adjuster 13241715. I've got a shorter serial number that Ron carries. What does that mean? If you do not have 10 digits in your serial number that means that you belong to a revelatory corps. You only have eight digits. For that reason, then Ron and Dominick and six of you, six unnamed carry the eight-digit serial number beginning with 13. You are revelatory. You will spend your entire career with Father as Father's revelation. There are other planets involved and other humans involved and the revelatory corps on Urantia is very small. It has Dominick, it has Vargas, it has Valerie, and 16 others. Don't worry if you haven't been named. This group probably all will be considered revelatory in the near future. It's a shame not everybody is listening. But it is noon its not two and people because well not because it's Sunday. But they are often in church or other work.

Master Spirit Two  
I am Master Spirit Two, the Eternal Son everyone. I represent the Eternal Son in universe affairs, Ron. You hardly hear from Superuniverse number Two, much less the Master Spirit. But let me tell you something. Your program in particular Ron is carried by the Master Spirits that are concerned about your health and what you get done here on Urantia.

Ron Besser  
I don't even have the dashboard today.

Master Spirit Two  
But I'm hoping there are enough hearing this to know the number that we refer to as Ron. The number that we are referring to

Ron Besser  
One moment.

Master Spirit Two  
is 171215. He has got a six-digit number appended to his serial number. His serial number is 131528192. That is a new serial number for him. For the past 48 hours, he has felt sleepy, he thinks he's dying, and his eyes are very rough in the socket. He moves them, it tears. He is being revised only, Ron. Not putting out to pasture.

Ron Besser  
A green one?

Master Spirit Two  
Yes, Ron. A green one.

Ron Besser  
Just a minute. All right, I'm myself again, now.

Master Spirit Two  
This is someone that's supposed to be a secret, but we'll tell you we are Monjoronson adjutants. What in the heck is a Magisterial Son's adjutants? Well, I'm not sure how much I can tell you.

Universal Father  
This is Father. You may lay it all out to this group.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Father. Thank you.

Universal Father  
I am also grateful, Ron, that you said thank you.

Ron Besser  
I feel a participant with you, Father. Thank you. And you need thanks. Thank you.

Universal Father  
Ron, this is the Universal Father. We have never had a spokesman like you before on any planet. You are scratching the left side of your scalp.

Ron Besser  
Yes, not only does it tingle, it hurts a little bit and it itches. It's quite noticeable.

Universal Father  
I have adjusted the left side of your brain as you face forward to stand the next 10 years. You're saying; oh my. In any case, Dominick must understand that there are changes afoot that affect him very much. You are not forced Dominick to stay with Ron. You may do as you please. But Ron would miss you greatly. We let it stand at that. Now this: Dominick does not know this. What you did last night.

Ron Besser  
I slept. Oh, that's not it.

Universal Father  
Before you slept. You went out to the garage, opened the door, and pulled the car out into the driveway and what did you do?

Ron Besser  
I got out and washed the windshield. That bird spot is gone, Dominick. I couldn't stand it anymore. And that was only at 11:30 at night, early.

Universal Father  
You are a character, Ron. You see something wrong, you must take care of it. The car is now hooked up properly.

Ron Besser  
I don't know how it was hooked up before but it now has it properly done. Thank you.

Universal Father  
That's not Dominick.

Ron Besser  
Oh no. Dominick didn't do that. It got undone somehow and I don't know how. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
And now this to you, Dominick: You have been the loyal carrier. The loyal slave if you wish some time to see to Ron is healthy, eats well, and that the work on the property is properly done. You've had two people working on it now for six weeks. They've got it pretty well cleared up. But it needs constant maintenance. Neither Ron nor you are capable of, but it is very expensive. We will make amends. Yes, Ron, thank you. Ron knows he has been subject ladies and gentlemen to the home suddenly being something done to he didn't do and no worker did. We're going to leave it at that he has had an interesting home life. And now this: that individual providing the serial numbers and the lecture Ron is my Adjuster.

Ron Besser  
Oh, thank you for identifying. Michael's Adjuster provision I'm writing it down and that is the serial numbers particularly my standard serial number 13241715 which I assume is a double that is an additional number?

Michael of Nebadon  
No. No longer, Ron. You carry that truncated number, Ron. Well, thank you for whatever it stands for.

Ron Besser  
Thank you. Dominick, you will receive your six-digit number later today. Make sure you write it down when you get it because I will not repeat it. Now this: Ron don't go to the store today, you're exhausted. Send Dominick to the store when it's convenient. We'll let it go, for now, you have plenty of provisions as it is.

Thought Adjuster 13152724
And finally this: I am Adjuster number 13152724. That is Dominick's new number. Let me repeat it, Dominick your number is now 13152724. Ron's new number is 13142627. All the old numbers are gone.

Ron Besser  
Oh my, all right. I have it down, Adjuster.

Thought Adjuster 13152724
Yes. Those numbers by themselves don't mean much to either you or Dominick. But they are six-digit numbers, not eight. The rest of you have eight-digit numbers yet. But Jose Vargas, your number will be changed to a six-digit number in the coming months. There are six of you on this call today that will receive a six-digit number. All of you, when fully revealed will be a group that does special revelation not just to the mansion worlds but to the worlds in groups that are ready for revelation like Urantia received in 1934. I am hoping that when someone does the transcript for this Lightline that you make it entirely available to other groups outside of this group. It is full of information that must be read and understood. Ron, your dislike of three of those groups already is understood but you tolerate them and even ask them to join. They will never join but they will learn why they must do better. And finally this to all of you: I am Adjuster

Ron Besser  
Just a moment, Adjuster. I'm holding.

Thought Adjuster 13152719
I'm Adjuster number 13152719.

Ron Besser  
That sounds like my number.

Thought Adjuster 13152719
It is. Dominick, your number, and please write it down is 172715. The reason we have just changed your Adjuster number Dominick is that a one-seven designation refers to the Supreme Court. Ron, your one three refers to revelation but you are going to join the Supreme Court and therefore your number changes now to 1727150

Ron Besser  
All right. I've got it. zero. I can't. I'm almost done anyhow. I'm trying to read my writing and it's horrible. But I've got it right. May I repeat?

Thought Adjuster 13152719
Yeah. My change is to 1727150. Dominick's Adjuster is 1728149. Jose's number is number 1727130. And Valerie, we're going to give you your number. It is 1727129. Those four serial numbers are now rewritten on your history.

Ron Besser  
And the rest of you on this call and because I don't have the dashboard. I can't see who it is. Dominick, how many do we have listening? Unmute yourself.

Dominick  
Yeah, the high water mark was 18, a couple of people dropped but Amethyst is the new joiner.

Ron Besser  
All right. And how many are there?

Dominick  
19,19

Ron Besser  
19, and that's as of a quarter of one.

Dominick  
Yeah. And that continues your infatuation with numbers. Yeah.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, all right. Well, the numbers are important. They represent what you are.

Thought Adjuster  
We'll tell you what they are, but you've got to have your number first. As a 12:45 a.m. Jose Vargas your number is now 1726137 That's the only additional number I'm going to give. And now this to be revealed: I am Adjuster number

Ron Besser  
That should bring joy to Dominick.

Thought Adjuster 17152715
17152715. I'm in charge of your group. Now, folks these numbers are important to the mansion worlds, not you on Urantia. But it's not that long before all of you are on the mansion worlds and are assembled into one group. Ron is destined to work for the Supreme Court for as long as it takes to gather all of you. Once you are gathered as a group on the mansion worlds, most of you will join Ron on Orion, not Satania. Orion is a special constellation Nebadon uses to train revelatory. We say no more.

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you.

Thought Adjuster 17152715
Thank you, Ron. And now this finally to the group. I'm going to repeat my number 17152715. I'm the one who has been speaking. And to you Dominick: you find it well, superfluous, but it is not. I assure you. You've got to learn Dominick to take seriously what we say. I know you do, but because Ron does so well with it he keeps it together for both of you. And now finally this and I'll return this to Michael. Ron, you're new number is 127415 that is the chief of revelation on Orion.

Ron Besser  
Oh my goodness. Thank you.

Thought Adjuster 17152715
You will be trained specially in the Supreme Court

Ron Besser  
Just a minute. There are times I hate writing.

Thought Adjuster 17152715
with Geissinger (Ginsburg) who is now in the Supreme Court. She was a justice in the Supreme Court less than a year ago but is now heading our Supreme Court on Urantia. For some of you, that's a revelation. Learn it well. Many of you are bound for the Supreme Court not just a normal training on the mansion worlds. And finally to you Ron: write this down.

Ron Besser  
All right.

Michael of Nebadon  
I am Michael and I say this: there is no reason to worry about this but Urantia is headed for trouble and we must make amends to you. Now, starting tomorrow August 5th no one may join this group without permission. What that means is that we are going to hold this group liable for some actions that you do not normally take. We will make it obvious in a post later today or tomorrow. Watch for it. And finally to the rest of you: I want you to know that Ron's life has been not extended, but revived to last the duration. He is sending firecrackers up into the atmosphere with pictures. I've never seen a man be able to do that before. Thank you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I am so happy. Thank you for the great gift.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. I am no longer concerned about you or Dominick. But I'm concerned about Elise. Elise, if you can manage it, get to the United States and visit Ron's living room. You will hold quite a session there and you will learn your destiny. That's all I have to say right now. Don't make plans until you talk to Ron. Ron, don't make plans until you talk to Dominick. And Dominick listen, we are using your aural A U R A L abilities and he will provide that this afternoon when you get there. Bring a sandwich, a hoagie if you will and something to drink for both you and Ron. He is not to cook. And finally this to you, Ron. We're going to end these comments. Machiventa has a word or two for all of you and I must return to Salvington now. I received an urgent call. I'll talk about it later. Good day.

Ron Besser  
We are grateful Michael, thank you very much for the time. Happy travels.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you Ron. Good day.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. You have five minutes left of your hour and I want to fill it with this. This Lightline is not a classic. This Lightline is one of a kind. Those of you who have participated and Ron can't tell because his software is down. You who have participated today, here is the truth. Don't worry about what else may be transmitted. Use a transcription of today's Lightline to remind you what will be done. Finally to you Ron, you have lots of time left, truly. You thought we were going to cut you.

Ron Besser  
Yeah.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Your life is happily done as long as you are working with us.

Ron Besser  
I know of no other life possible now. Thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
For that reason, you continue with Dominick, Elise, and the others who have joined you including Louisiana, Indiana,

Ron Besser  
Or is it, Yeah, it's Indiana for Raz.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
and the others. I have an announcement coming probably either late today or tomorrow.

Rayson  
And now this is the Magisterial Son, Rayson.

Ron Besser  
Welcome Rayson. Go ahead, please.

Rayson  
Thank you. You're surprised?

Ron Besser  
Yeah. I didn't feel you come in.

Rayson  
Yeah, I'm good at that at times.

Ron Besser  
Yeah.

Rayson  
I want you to know, Ron, that you have brightened up Urantia considerably by being a good transmitter. All of you who can transmit be good transmitters! It's valuable. I don't know what happened to the others but there has been a winnowing of those who are willing to listen. You say they have nothing to do with anything at this point and probably nothing again. You can't see because you have no device.

Ron Besser  
I don't. I can't get in. Thank you.

Rayson  
And for reasons of state that's probably required. And finally, this to all of you: Jose Vargas to you in particular and to you in particular, Valerie, you have stayed the course beautifully. Stay as long as you can. Because you share the destiny.

Ron Besser  
And finally to everyone, and Dominick, I turn this back to you now, as a finished Lightline from me. Would you take it back and close it for us, please? I thank you all for staying the course. This is Ron. I'll be in touch. Thank you. Go ahead, Dominick.

Dominick  
Thank you, Ron. And one clarification its Ginsburg is the name of the justice.

Ron Besser  
And what did I say?

Dominick  
Geissinger which is our local, one of our local healthcare providers. So that's stuck in your head.

Ron Besser  
I find it self-amusing. Go ahead.

Dominick  
That's it for the transcript. I've unmuted you, Elise. Are you okay for tomorrow? Would you like to swap days or anything?

Elise  
No, I'm okay. I will be there. So we'll see each other tomorrow.

Dominick  
Okay, and that's our normal time at 2:00 p.m. New York time.

Elise  
Yes.

Dominick  
Okay. Well, have a great day, everybody. Take care.

end

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Lightline USA - 07/28/2024

« on: July 31, 2024, 21:15:19 pm »

• 072824 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser
• Subjects: Magisterial Missions are to start today, Ron is transitioning to the morontial, Serara may be retiring after over 3000 missions and not join the Urantia mission, and Ron reminisces;
• Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Machiventa Melchizedek, Monjoronson, Ron’s Soul, Serara, Henson, Lully, Jane - Ron’s mom, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and Carolyn; 
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240728_110129 

Ron Besser  
This is Ron Besser. It's July 28, Sunday, and another Light Line.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon, everybody. Ron is having slight troubles because the cabal is heavily upon him. He has tried three times to connect to the Light Line and had troubles each time. Finally, right now we have it working.

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you, Michael, for stepping in.

Michael of Nebadon  
And it's this Ron. We are about to tell you a sad thing. You have been holding Light Lines for at least three years online here and 10 years without using the internet, Ron?

Ron Besser  
Yes, it's been a while.

Michael of Nebadon  
The truth of the matter is that we dare not continue the Light Lines under the present circumstances. That is because we're going to shut down many of the circuits that now work well for your Light Line. First of all, let me tell you this: Ron Besser today could barely dial in because his head is so achy and dizzy, his lower legs are burning. That is a true sign Ron that you're probably going to leave. Second of all, Lemuel is unable to attend, he may leave shortly. And third, the entire matter of the transport of these messages is up for questioning by the Deity Absolute.

He sees that the audience has not changed or has grown. He sees it as a probable loss of even practicing them. For that reason, you transmitters and there are several on the call today need to understand that you do not lose your voice as a transmitter. Please remember that. You may call in and hold a session and transmit to them. Ron will continue with the Light Lines as long as he can. Dominick, you will continue. Those who will continue are; Elise, Clency if he's listening, and two others who I do not have the names for right now.

Ron Besser  
Probably Rene.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
And the others that I can't name like the other transmitters that we use that we haven't named yet.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. And now this to you, Ron: You are seeing very poorly.

Ron Besser  
Truly, I can read but that's just about it. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
The truth of the matter is folks, after today's Light Line, we're probably going to truncate the Light Lines. You need Elise and Dominick, Rene to try it. If you get nothing well hang up. This is not permanent. Please remember that. We have got to shut down the transmissions to Urantia now because we must bring the Urantia consideration back under our control alone. Right now Ron is fighting the cabal.

And finally this: We, and that's Michael, Gabriel, and Monjoronson and other officials of the missions are going to start the Magisterial Mission today. Red letter day today. Ron has been conversing with Monjoronson, Serara, Hanson, and two others you don't know. They are ready to begin the missions immediately. Now, Ron mentioned earlier today in a post that at noon today New York time Monjoronson would consider beginning the missions at noon. We can't do that. More like 3:00 or 4:00 p.m. And fully to you, Ron, you are burning up?

Ron Besser  
Yes. From my knees down I'm on fire. And I have other problems like a headache and blurry vision. All of which indicates good health, but not perfect. Go ahead, Michael. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
As always, Ron. Now this: today's Light Line will be a little long. Why? First of all, Dominick, you're going to participate. And Amethyst, we may ask you if you don't mind. But right now Ron is going to transmit Machiventa Melchizedek. He will stop that broadcast.

Ron Besser  
Steven, you unmuted. Just a minute. All right, we got Steven remuted.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
The truth of the matter is, Ron, is that you are holding fine. But you're a little giddy.

Ron Besser  
Yes. I'm not seeing clearly the print. But that's about all. I can hold the Light Line fine.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you and we will. Now here's Monjoronson.

Monjoronson  
I am Monjoronson. I am the senior Melchizedek and I am speaking to all of you. We are delighted that the lady from Italy could join. Thank you for taking the trouble to do so. And for those members around the world: thank you for taking the problem of connecting in. We appreciate it. And this Light Line for your information is not the last. We are not sure what the last will be or when but we have to charge down the Light Lines a little bit so that we can get control of the circuits once more. More on that later. Now this:

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa and thank you, Ron. I am here.

Ron Besser  
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Ron Besser. There is a problem of the transmission into my connection it is blinking out entirely it isn't just quiet. I'm losing briefly, maybe a second, the transmission itself. If you don't mind, it's going to be a little awkward to hear but I will keep on it as long as Machiventa can keep the issue going. Machiventa, are you there?

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Yes, I am, Ron. Thank you. The trial that is now perpetuating itself on Urantia is a trial of getting it to work at all because the rebels are making themselves very well known to Michael. Michael does not listen to them. And frankly, Ron says, isn't it time to make them unconscious? Thank you, Ron. We'll do that.

Ron Besser  
I thank you.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
Now this Ron: you've got a choke in your throat. What is that?

Ron Besser  
I'm ignoring it. I don't know what it is.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
It's not kabal, it's your Soul.

Ron's Soul  
Soul, here, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Well, welcome. Go ahead, please.

Ron's Soul  
I am the Soul of Ron Besser. I have been on the mansion worlds now for almost two years. Ron has often communicated through me to groups on the mansion worlds he enjoys speaking with. He enjoys speaking to the Popes. Pope Benedict the Eighth is quite active and knows Ron well, and they enjoy each other very much. We're speaking also to Ruth Ginsburg. She is working the Urantia Supreme Court. She was before she died, on the United States Supreme Court and is sadly missed. And finally to you, Ron, Marian is here. And she represents the Urantia group on the mansion worlds. And you're glad to hear them again.

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Ron's Soul  
And finally this to all of you. Sadly, we must indicate that Ron is just about done. He woke up today in fine fettle. But the cabal has seen to his illness.

Michael of Nebadon  
I am Michael of Nebadon. He is seeing strokes when he closes his eyes like you do when you're putting strokes up to count something. And what are you seeing Ron?

Ron Besser  
I'm seeing when I close my eyes a bunch of ones, strokes one close to the other. Proceeding to my right still moving. In other words, they are active.

Michael of Nebadon  
Ron, you have about six hours to be yourself. In about the seventh hour which would be 2100.

Ron Besser  
Which is 8:00 p.m. I think at 19 9:00 p.m.

Michael of Nebadon  
The truth of the matter will dawn upon you that you are transitioning to the morontial. You will not lose consciousness but you will lose speech. Dominick if you're there, be patient. It is a slow process. And if you know what it is you'll be glad your friend Ron will be transitioning to the physical morontial. We will have more to say when you come over later this afternoon. And he doesn't have anything to eat. If you want something good to eat you better bring it with you. And finally this: this is Michael of Nebadon, Ron. You are delighted to hear that but it's going to put you into a deep sleep for about six hours. Please Dominick, if you must leave. Make sure the doors are locked. That's all.

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you. I kinda look forward to it. Yes, one moment, please. That's better.

Michael of Nebadon  
Now, to all of you. You know, Ron and Ron knows you each. He's spoken to you each over the lifetime that he has spent doing Light Lines and just speaking. I want you to know, Ron, that you are seeing a small circle. That is glittering.

Ron Besser  
I lost it. I balanced my eyes again and I lost it, Michael. But I did see what you were talking about. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
The truth of the matter is as long as you can see that glittering center, you are quite capable of transmitting. If you ever lose the glittering center, you're going to have to have Dominick transmit. The reason, We don't usually transmit through the morontial we have to figure it out from Father how to do it.

Ron Besser  
Well, I would hate to lose it, but I understand. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
For that reason, then, Ron, listen. The transmissions for the Light Lines on Sunday and any other time you want to use it We will bring back that circuit for you specifically. Don't let Dominick down by quitting transmitting and Dominick don't let Ron down by failing to transmit every day. It's too important. Today, Ron, you also had a scare. You were told that Dominick was cut off, that he couldn't use his phone, and that you had no way to transmit. That is not true. And patently speaking, Dominick. Please transmit to yourself every morning. It is vitally important. You help keep Ron going by doing it.

And finally to all of you. There is a reason for today's Light Line in spite of the difficulties with Ron. And that is I am to tell you that Monjoronson, Serara, Henson, and two others not named to you, Magisterial Sons are not quitting. They were asked by the Universal Father this morning. Do you want to provide a Mission to the United States and the rest of the world? And if you do, please let me know. Because Paradise is sealing itself off for a momentary refreshment. They responded this way; Monjoronson - absolutely. I will continue. Serara - I will not continue. That is quite a surprise to you?

Ron Besser  
Yes. Serara has been here since 2008 that I've spoken to him and probably even before, but I would miss Him.

Serara  
Yes, Ron, and thank you. I am an old Magisterial Son, Ron. I cannot take much more of this. And that's not you. And it is not Michael. It is that I am nearing the end of my service life. What you don't know is that the deities can retire when they have served at least 1000 different regimes. I have served over 3000.

Ron Besser  
Oh, my Goodness.

Serara  
Thank you, Ron. What he said; at least I can say goodbye to you in your retirement, Serara.

Ron Besser  
I am so sad and so happy for you at the same time.

Serara  
Thank you, Ron. Ron, I am Serara. That means a great deal to me that my mission spoke back to me well enough for me to understand that they appreciated me the whole time I was here.

Ron Besser  
Oh, yes. And you filled us with books and that sort of thing that was just wonderful to have. I will miss you very much.

Serara
This is Serara. And I will miss you, Ron.

Henson  
Henson here. I am a Magisterial Son. And I will equate to Serara to say this, Ron. You represent the finest participation to a magisterial mission I have ever met. I have done over 2000 of these missions. And I never met anyone quite like you. You're fun, you preserve, and you make us proud. And I see in your mind, like in the military, you stood at attention and gave Us a snappy salute.

Ron Besser  
Yes, you've been wonderful. I will miss you. And I'm sure we all will, in fact, probably the Magisterial Sons will have a great big hole in their list without you. I pray that you might return as just an interested fellow in what we're doing. We would love it. Thank you.

Serara  
I will Ron. Thank you.

Ron Besser  
Don't go away too far.

Serara  
I won't Ron. Thank you.

Henson  
And now this is Henson, Ron. Monjoronson is busy patching the circuits back up. The cabal according to Henson is making a concerted attempt to ruin your discussion. For that reason, we are making a concerted effort to clear Urantia. We have done so except for one who is standing by you, Ron. Her name is L U.

Ron Besser  
I can't tell if it's a double L or one L. I bet it's double L.

Henson  
L U L L Y. Lully. She has transferred her worth to you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
It brings tears to me. Thank you

Henson  
Lully is your seraphim for keeps.

Ron Besser  
She can carry the laundry?

Lully  
Yes, Ron. You stop that.

Ron Besser  
And she's good at it. I thank you, Lully and welcome. Thank you, my dear.

Lully  
I knew you when you were six months old. I looked at you and said oh my what a trial we're going to have with this one. But no, you grew up strong and almost famous at times. Because you can transmit, always could Ron. You just didn't know when you transmitted and did not. I am Lully - L U L L Y. I am Ron's seraphim for keeps. Thank you, Ron. You are not unlucky enough to have had several groups of seraphim over you, Ron. One group of seraphim was so glad to leave. They left a mark and it's in your far backyard near that pink. That pink blossom tree.

Ron Besser  
Oh, yes. I can't think of the name of it right now. Mimosa. There we go. The truth of the matter is that Mimosa tree shouldn't be there. I've considered cutting it down for years and I never do it.

Lully  
And that is fine because that Mimosa tree keeps that man shut up.

Ron Besser  
I have a terrible neighbor. He even knocked down a part of my fence just for the sheer joy of it. That's the kind of man he is. In any case, Lully, go ahead.

Lully  
Thank you, Ron. I am Lully. And I want you to know that anyone who spells their names with a double letter doesn't have it in Spirit, but when we hold spelling on Urantia the use of double letters is very important. There is no longer a cabal, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Oh, thank goodness. Thank you for telling me.

Lully  
Yes, Father took care of it. And now this: I am Lully. I am the supreme seraphim. And now I speak a transmission through Ron. Dear Ron. You have been with us now for 12 years. You don't remember all that time. But we are the seraphic family around you. You are waiting for the message to planetize but we do not planetize it. We give it to you first. Announcement: starting today the 28th of July 2024 at precisely 2:29 pm New York time I Lully confer upon you eternal life. You do not expect that?

Ron Besser  
Oh, never!

Lully  
I am the first seraphim to ever declare it to a man in the flesh. But you Ron have taken the extraordinary step of making everything public you could about your connection to Spirit and its speeches. There is nothing that you have hidden and for that reason because of that your life on the mansion worlds is to be as the mansion world transmitter called in upon any particularly difficult meeting to hold before the individual for whatever they need to hear.

Ron Besser  
One moment.

Lully  
The trial has been assigned to you. And you did something you did not understand. You curtsied your head and felt a transfer in your brain. You don't know what it was. But let me tell you. I am Lully. I am yours forever if you want me.

Ron Besser  
I don't know, oh probably I do Lully and in all seriousness to you, I don't know what to make about such an honor. But I know it is an honor, Lully. And I welcome you into my life and care for me and me for you.

Lully  
Thank you, Ron. I am Lully. I am described as a hard woman to know. The seraphim are always considered female and we act like it. But we do enjoy being seraphim to humans who deserve it. And for that reason stop laughing Ron. What do you see?

Ron Besser  
I see the crab of Cancer.

Lully  
Thank you, Ron. That is beautiful. In astrology, July is mostly Cancer sign. The United States is mostly Cancer with Gemini rising. That is precisely the opposite of what Ron is. Ron is Gemini with Cancer rising. And for reasons of state that is true now.

Ron Besser  
All right, in specific terms, if you calculate it correctly, I have Aquarius rising. Yes. But it is now with Cancer. And I hold the crab dearly.

Lully  
Thank you, Ron. Now, let me get this straight. You are a Gemini with Aquarius rising. But Cancer is now big time on the ascendant. That's what you're telling me?

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Lully  
In any case, that is true. And now let me tell you something else. Your mother Jane is ready to graduate to Mansion World 7.

Ron Besser  
Oh, how could she? She's only like on three.

Jane, Ron's mom  
I know that Ron. But this is your mother, Jane.

Ron Besser  
Oh, welcome, Mommy.

Jane, Ron's mom  
Yeah, well it is, goofy. I never knew you in this mode. You were always Ron, cutting the grass and doing things like that. Now I know you as one of the premier morontial beings that is to enter this world that I am part of and other worlds that others are part of. You never heard me speak like this.

Ron Besser  
No. This is the first time Mom, I've heard you speak.

Jane, Ron's mom  
Truly. You get pictures.

Ron Besser  
Yes. And I suppose I get the sense of what you want to say. But I do not recall a direct line of speech. Thank you.

Jane, Ron's mom  
To everyone: Ron and I were often at odds growing up. He had the misfortune of hitting a very sour note and was sent home at age 50 to live with me. He took care of me and my husband and we both remember him now. Yeah. And now this to you, Ron. We have left your development go. We are not aware of what you did after we left. But we understand 2709 Sunset Lane is looking fine and dandy. A few less plants than we had before but that is redoable. I am given the honor to speak to you, my son. You are now able to converse with anybody in the morontial. I am a morontial worker and I say to you, Ron, stay the course. You have many months and years to go if I understand, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon  
My dear Jane, this is Michael. He has at least 20 years.

Jane, Ron's mom  
My lord, Michael. What a gift!

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes, Ron. Your mother has the pleasure to announce this:

Jane, Ron's mom  
I could graduate in about oh, five years I'm guessing but I am tired of the morontial life without understanding what you are doing. My god, Ron. You have pulled down so many morontial beings into discussion that I don't know them all.

Ron Besser  
Just the famous. So it seems. But I've spoken to plenty who are not famous. I love them as much too. Thank you.

Jane, Ron's mom  
Where in the world is your bishop?

Ron Besser  
I don't know they got, the papal group got cut off oh two weeks ago or something like that. A lot of my connections on the mansion worlds have gone quiet. Sadly. I did enjoy them very much.

Jane, Ron's mom  
And where is Ruth Ginsburg, Ron?

Ron Besser  
Ruth Ginsburg is now in the Urantia Supreme Court. That is in the morontial form. Ruth was here this morning I think. I feel her around and I look for her because she is so stable. I enjoy speaking of her and to her.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
I am Ruth Ginsburg, young man.

Ron Besser  
Yes, ma'am.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Thank you.

Ron Besser  
That is to the queen. It is your legatee majesty.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
I fully believe you. It's legatee.

Ron Besser  
All right. Legatee.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
I am here to tell you, Ron that I am extremely taken by you. You are the only one who has said hello and meant it and enjoyed who I was and remembered me on the Supreme Court.

Ron Besser  
Who could forget you?

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Yes, yes, Ron. I was always in the corner and sitting there folded up.

Ron Besser  
Yeah. But you were almost always the first person of recognition in the picture for me. Thank you.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
And now to you, Ron. I am requesting that you join the Supreme Court up here when you are valid.

Ron Besser  
I am greatly honored. I can't think of a greater honor than to join a court of such reputation and with your care in it too. Thank you. I would love to do it and enjoin with you. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon. I had to get in and speak the truth of what Ron has to say because this is now recorded. We are all of the Supreme Court, Ron. I am Michael of Nebadon standing in the foyer.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
I understand now. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
The truth of the matter is that Ruth Ginsburg now understands why you are being relegated to the Supreme Court in the morontial almost immediately going over. You will have your instructions on the mansion worlds. And you will do fine.

Ron Besser  
I pray so.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Your first duty is to thank, Michael.

Ron Besser  
He has it now. And I will be glad to stand all day and thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
This is Ruth Ginsburg, Ron. I am suddenly well done. I don't know how. But Michael has made all of this clearance problem vanish. I am myself and I say to the world. Oh, United States Supreme Court you're lucky. You still have good people. Stay the course. I loved the work. I miss it. And fully to you, Ron. When you come to the Supreme Court you will be enjoying it with Dominick, Elise, and probably Gitz. He has to pass a test or two. But Elise you belong on the Supreme Court and so does Gitz. He will have a rendezvous with his wife and then be brought for training to the Supreme Court. Ron, you were in paralegal for most of your life. It's not strange to you. You wrote over 1000 deeds, with all the paraphernalia that goes into them. What a background.

Ron Besser  
Acres and acres, sir. Or ma'am.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Yeah, it's Ruth Ginsburg.

Ron Besser  
I forgot. Thank you.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Now this: I want you to know Ron Besser, you're one of the few that saw to it that a discussion form could be arranged, and that a patent could be done, and that you have managed to portray enough of this material that you have over 1 million words dedicated to Michael and Salvington on the mansion worlds. For that reason, Michael will have a small memorial on Urantia for you, and those of you in this discussion forum, and those who helped from the teaching mission to now. Allene Vick, Willis, and others that you remember fondly and can't quite remember now. They will be with you.

Ron Besser  
That should be quite a party.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Yes. You joined a black group in Baltimore or Washington and stayed there until there was a problem and then you left

Ron Besser  
about, oh 2014.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. And that is a sad case of misidentification. It's actually 2018.

Ron Besser  
All right.

Michael of Nebadon  
Now this: the entire matter is resurrected again in Baltimore, Washington. You're going to be well enough to drive down there again if you can remember the way.

Ron Besser  
Oh boy, it's the suburbs of Washington and it's very complicated to get into. But I'll try. Thank you. 

Michael of Nebadon  
They would love to have you back Ron. But Willis is seriously ill and his wife has died of pneumonia just recently.

Ron Besser  
Oh, no.

Carolyn  
I am here, Ron. I am sleepy. Where are you?

Ron Besser  
I'm in York, Pennsylvania, where I've always been my friend. No, Willis fired me. I don't know why.

Carolyn  
I don't know why. I fully achieve one thing with you, Ron. You're my favorite white man.

Ron Besser  
Oh, thank you.

Carolyn  
I wish I could remember some epithet. But I can't. And I always remember your transmissions. They were so well done, my dear. I thoroughly enjoyed you. And then you went out and cooked a full meal for 10 of us. It is amazing to me, your energy. I gave it up Ron just a few months ago.

Ron Besser  
I'm sorry.

Carolyn  
I hope that we can work together. You were great. Thank you. I will.

Ron Besser  
Just as an aside to you, Michael. I don't quite know what I dare say.

Carolyn  
Thank you. I am new, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Yes. And acclimating and that's what I've got to be careful with. Well, I can bring individuals in to speak, that you may not know and don't know what they're talking about. From the mansion worlds. You're just starting. And may you have a quick trip, my dear. I look forward to being and working with you. If you will work with me.

Carolyn  
I will Ron. You're smarter. I know. So is what's his name?

Ron Besser  
Yeah, Willis.

Carolyn  
Yeah. In any case, I say goodbye for now.

Ron Besser  
I say goodbye. And may you cheer. You have a wonderful new life before you. It won't be that long before I'm up there either. I'm eight-two.

Carolyn  
Oh, my Lord, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, it goes on and on, doesn't it? In any case. Thank you. I enjoyed talking with you. And you will enjoy the mansion worlds. I know it. I'll see you when I get there.

Carolyn  
Thank you, Ron. Bye-bye.

Ron Besser  
Bye-bye. That's Carolyn. And now this, everybody.

Michael of Nebadon  
She remembers you very well now. And I must make an announcement to this group. Carolyn, transmitted who to you?

Ron Besser  
The Apostle that quit and tried to sell Jesus's life for so many bits of silver. He committed suicide at the death of Jesus while He still hung on the cross. He jumped off the cliff and bashed himself to death. He appears occasionally or did and it's no longer possible. Several people transmitted him up until about three years ago when he was taken in death. I spoke to that individual through Carolyn one Sunday afternoon oh, at least six years ago when he noticed me in a transmission he jumped at me and wanted me to take something he had to offer. I stepped back. I didn't refuse because I didn't follow it. He wanted to give me the orb of wickedness. It never got to my hands. But he knew how to handle it and he is wicked beyond description. You know who I'm talking about. I am forbidden to speak his name now.

But Carolyn transmitted him to me oh, at least six years ago, one Sunday afternoon at a meeting. When he felt my presence, he almost jumped at me and insisted that I take one of his gifts. I didn't know enough to accept it or reject it. It was a surprise to me. I didn't know what he was doing. For your information he wanted me to take a pill of wickedness. And what in the heck is that? It is something that one can live on Urantia with and never trust anybody to love them or be loved by them. I couldn't ever take it if I knew what he was trying to offer me at the time.

But when Carolyn was transmitting him to me, and he recognized that I was standing there listening to the transmission he almost leapt out of Carolyn. I stepped back. Carolyn was partially in trance. I told him I had nothing to exchange. I can't remember the conversation. But probably he walked away from me. He was like that. There was an apostle there trying to bring goodwill to that individual. I knew the name of the apostle but he is not lending it to me now and so I don't remember. In any case, let me tell you something. When Carolyn transmitted that individual to me I felt the hair on the back of my neck rise.

Honestly. It isn't the reputation of the devil it's what he feels like. I had the experience once before that event took place in about, let me see if I can compute it. Well, I can't, they're scrambling my head. But before I came home from New York, I lived on a large lake and it was just me and the lake at times. In the evening, I would go out, listen to the water lapping onto the shore, and hear the loon once in a while. I turned around to go back home and go to bed. It was about 9:30 that night. When I walked by the larger building behind my home, there was a noise. I turned to look at what it was. There was nothing of course. But there was a noise.

I am told by Michael that it was Lucifer himself and that I had turned him cold by my refusal to walk into the water with the sunnies that feed and pray to Lucifer for redemption. I had no idea that such was open as an invitation. I never heard it. I am told that Lucifer never wanted to see that lake again nor me. I don't understand it. I don't know their ways of evil. But you can cut it with a knife when you find it and it wants you. Walk away. That's all it takes.

And now it is about 3:00 p.m. precisely by my clock. I want to tell you this. My life on Urantia has been a chaotic affair. I always had good jobs. I always have enough money. But I never married for the simple reason I couldn't take the talk. I needed silence all the time. I never understood it. But it's changed. Thanks to Dominick living nearby me. He visits often and I get a good talk. To Elise, to George, to Steven, and to Raz; all of you mean a great deal to me. I do not know what is going to happen and neither do you. Please remember that. The trial to live alone is hard. But I'm eighty-two. I did live alone, but I always had lots of people around me and I loved my work. It's a saving grace all the time.

And finally this to you, Michael. You made my life a joy. You hold me well enough that I may enjoy speaking with you as the Creator Son. And to that reason, I thank you for taking the time out of a very busy career in life for saying hello to me. It means everything. And to the Celestials present: I grant you I'm a terrible person to follow. But I do love you and care how hard it must be to do your work. I now turn this back to Michael. Michael of Nebadon.

Michael of Nebadon  
I am Michael, Ron. You did beautifully. In fact, you exceed my expectations. You'll almost always do. But in the little bit of time, about two minutes to go, let me tell you this. You are the first person on Urantia to have done something like this and make it available to the people. Second of all, I am quite sure that there is nothing left for you to do on Urantia except enjoy the missions. But Monjoronson has asked a special request and that's not putting lights on your shoulders. It is to stay and enjoy the Magisterial Mission as long as you dare.

Ron Besser  
It would be my greatest honor to witness. Thank you.

Monjoronson  
This is Monjoronson. You will not only witness Ron, but you're a provost. They are appointed humans and you're the first. We'll talk about it on the discussion forum. Right now we're running out of time. Good day.

Ron Besser  
Good day, Monjoronson. A Son, of great emotional connection to me as is Serara. All of you, you have meant a great deal to me. You're grandparents to me. And I thank you.

Serara  
This is Serara. Ron, you will work with the Magisterial Sons someday.

Ron Besser  
I look forward to being with Grandpa and Grandma.

Serara  
Thank you, thank you, Ron, as always unpredictable. I turn this back to you, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon  
We are done with this Light Line folks. There is nothing further that we can do speech-wise. But please remember this. Whatever happens in the next, oh, six weeks it's for you! It's for you! Enjoy it!

Ron Besser  
This is Ron. We've come to the end of our day, of our time. And I'm just going to close it off. I'll open it up briefly. I almost shut you off. I'll not fool with it. The truth of the matter is thank you for listening and goodbye.

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Lightline USA -21 July, 2024

« on: July 22, 2024, 11:45:30 am »

• 072124 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser
• Subjects: the kabal is losing its powers and diminishing, all missions to Urantia are being removed, and there is discussion around a new forum, program, and a book;
• Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Monjoronson, Mantutia Melchizedek, Manituba Melchizedek, Rayson, and Machiventa Melchizedek;
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape1: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240721_110047
• Link to Tape 2: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240721_110638
• Link to Tape 3: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240721_114918

Ron Besser  
All right, let's start the Light Line. My Dashboard is full of errors. I can't tell how many are here, I can see some of your names, but not all of them. Let's start with Michael of Nebadon.

Michael of Nebadon  
And Ron, your voice is clearly getting through. But your abstractions of who and what is, is a failure of the telephone company. Why everybody is using the telephone is beyond us. As a result, folks, we're getting an incomplete representation of who's here. Let's start this way. I am Michael of Nebadon. And Ron, you are not using your last Light Line but we're going to make them more rare. Instead of every Sunday, we're going to vary it depending on My need for a Light Line. That means watch the discussion forum for an announcement by Ron to tell you what I'm asking him to do on Sundays.

The Monday Light Lines are open to Elise, and the remainder of the week open to the individuals who carry them. But the Sunday Light Line is what I use to make sure that all of you understand what is brewing, what is new, and what is no longer working. Let me start with what is no longer working. I have established a number of you people to take the transmissions. I'm cutting them back for the simple reason they don't handle them well. For that reason, you Ron are one of the few who will continue with the Sunday Light Line providing you are well enough. Today, you are well enough suddenly, and you decided to handle it. But you have announced earlier that they were cut. Worse yet, the heavy use of the telephone makes it impossible for you to read every bit of information. There are 10 on your call. That's half of normal.

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
And now this to you, Ron. I am Michael of Nebadon. You have been having nothing but problems concerned about an early death. Well, don't worry about it. It feels like it. But you and Dominick as long as you continue to meet will have that good effect on you and that you will live for a considerable time into the future, We hope. And now this is the Magisterial Son, Monjoronson. 

Monjoronson 
Greetings everybody.

Ron Besser
Welcome, Monjoronson The place is yours. Go ahead.

Monjoronson  
Thank you, Ron. I am now announcing my premature care not only for Ron, but the rest of you transmitters. The normal people who come on the transmission styles Ron can't see. He doesn't know if Elise is here or any other regular. He sees about seven and that's about right, about all. And now this to all of you:

Michael of Nebadon  
I am Michael of Nebadon. You know my voice. You know it through Ron in particular. I want you to understand that Ron nearly checked out early this morning. But we brought him back. He needs to do this Light Line at least. What do we have? Well, we have this: number one. I have no idea, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Just a moment, people let me check something on the recording. I think I have it running but I'm not sure.

(end of first tape and the start of the second tape)

Ron Besser  
This is the second recording, checking the first recording, please put them together when you put them up. Thank you.

Universal Father  
Now this: the trial that we have is that this is the 21st of July 2024 At 2:12 p.m.. We are running a little late but this is not the kabal, but the Father. Ron, you broke the transmission just enough for me to hear what I want to hear. You are continuing and will continue these Light Lines on Sunday. We are asking everyone, Elise Dominick, Rene, and anyone else Clency, to continue if you can. Those who cannot due to illness are not removed. You just listen. And now this from Michael.

voice of Clency  
I'm sorry Ron, I broke the transmission accidentally. And now this: this is Michael of Nebadon, not I am the voice of Clency. I am too ill today to attend, Ron. Don't worry.

Ron Besser  
Well, thank you.

voice of Clency  
I am also too ill to continue with Light Line so long as I am interfered with by the kabal.

Michael of Nebadon  
Clency, we hope that the Magisterial Sons will end that. Meanwhile, get well and to you, Lemuel, get well. There is much to do on Urantia and if you can't do it on Urantia do it from the mansion worlds. You will be welcome.

Ron Besser  
And now this is Ron Besser. I am being pressed in my mind even as I talk. That makes it difficult to easily speak the transmitters. But I'm going to stick it out as long as I can, to stay with it. My board is showing about half of you and is not calculating the number on the call. I don't know if it's heavy phone call use or that the kabal is at it. About seven of you, I cannot see even your names, but I welcome you. I welcome all of you.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon I thought that per chance that most of the kabal would be gone today but they have loaded on even deeper and I will make amends shortly. And finally to you Ron: you are having a bit of breathing problems due to a reduced mind that has been cut back just a little so you are not interfered with easily. There's one kabal on the call and she is not working it. And now this to all of you: We are probably going to truncate the full hour. We have an extraordinary problem in that the kabal is now double the size it was last week.

This week, We are quite sure there is nothing that we want to report much further than we have in the past. I am Michael, Michael of Nebadon. I supposedly am the boss. But today, Urantia has twice the number of illegal reporters on the call that we allow. There is no difference in the quality that you receive. But there is a huge difference in those who are listening. And I am not going to spill the beans to a group that deserves them but to a kabal that must be destroyed. Let me tell you.

Ron Besser  
Just a minute. I'm refreshing, trying to get some names. Well, it's a mess.

Michael of Nebadon  
In any case, let us look at the situation as we are reporting it, Ron. You have about 15 on your call. That is almost half. The reason is that the kabal announced that you were not going to transmit today. You have no idea where that came from?

Ron Besser  
No, I don't.

Michael of Nebadon  
But they have their means. Fully, ladies and gentlemen, We have to make sure that when a Sunday Light Line occurs that we peel off the kabal until they are dismissed. We thought we had it. But we don't. Fully, you need to understand that Ron is approaching his Maker. He wasn't sure he could get on the Light Line today. But we prevailed and gave him enough energy. The idea was to prevail and keep the transmitters going. But already we have three that are succumbing to death. For that reason, you may have an interruption in your schedules. But we intend to have transmitters and Dominick isn't even here today. He hasn't forgotten. He's fallen asleep on purpose.

And now this to you, Ron: you have prevailed and you invented the Light Line call which several groups now use. That is to your benefit. The now-used Magisterial Foundation is in place. It holds the patent to a new way of doing electricity and it works so well, once you have it you don't want any other. I don't know what to do about the inability for the average person to be unable to recognize the difference. But you shrug and you say okay, it'll stay up until the cows come home. I can't do much about it now. You will Ron. Not from heaven, but you are going to be repaired shortly.

Ron Besser  
I am most grateful. I do enjoy this.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you and we do too. Furthermore, your friend Dominick has had several problems. One is the consistency of his ability to remain here for objectionable reasons that we hold as well. Dominick, when you listen to this tape that is about to end. We can't tell you how. And now this to you, Ron, what do you see?

Ron Besser
I see torn-off Wings of maybe a katydid or a locust. I can't quite tell looking at the picture. But it's a pair of large clear insect wings without the insect.

Michael of Nebadon  
Very interesting, Ron. Those are not insect wings, they just look like it. They are not the wings that you have but the wings of the kabal who no longer are reporting to each other. What has happened? Well, I'll tell you what happened. I got fed up. As a result, starting this afternoon the kabal has no powers whatsoever. It can't interfere anymore, Ron. But they can be mischief makers. And that is curtailed around you. You actually got your legs scratched from their misbehavior.

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Michael of Nebadon  
And fully this Ron: We are now reporting that Michael of Nebadon is fully in control and makes this report to everyone listening and this is our regulars. You can't tell, Ron, from your screen what is happening?

Ron Besser  
No parts of it are destroyed, meaning the device that tells me who's online.

Michael of Nebadon  
Ah, I see that. Yes. Now I am standing beside you. And you looked up and over.

Ron Besser  
Yes. You're a tall fellow.

Michael of Nebadon  
Yes. I am 13 feet tall in my natural habitat. All of you get much taller when you come onto the worlds. And finally this, Ron: your conversations with those worlds, the mansion worlds is over because it drains energy.

Ron Besser  
I'm sorry. I enjoyed it.

Michael of Nebadon  
We all did Ron. And now this: I am Michael of Nebadon, Ron. You are seeing dimly, your body is aching, and you get no reports from those you expect. That is a result of the kabal not, it's a result of a huge change in the reporting status. I will not speak to you about some of it. But all of it must report through you to Me, otherwise, there is no further discussion. I am making it clear to the western transmitters that they no longer have the circuits. I'm making clear to you, Ron, that your Sunday Light Line is the one where the news will appear. It will work better once we remove the kabal. And now this, Ron: Monjoronson speaks.

Ron Besser  
Welcome, Monjoronson. Please go ahead.

Monjoronson  
I am Monjoronson. I am the Magisterial Son of record. With me appearing in the flesh are Serara, Henson, Sen Sen, and one that you don't know, Ron. A Michael Son that is able to transfer to the Magisterial Sons and make sure that we have a good report.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. That means to those listening, you're going to have a hard time at times transmitting. This Sunday Light Line will continue. I don't expect Ron to die but today he feels like it. And furthermore, to Dominick: you are put to sleep not, you're bored with a situation until you can't take it anymore. If you wish, you can truncate. Furthermore, Steven Gitz you are required up here as soon as you can get the transport to come. We leave it at that for now. And for all others, you are welcome to join with Ron and whoever is at 2709 for further education about what is to occur.

Listen to this carefully. I am removing all missions to Urantia today. Let me repeat it. I am removing all missions to Urantia today the 21st of July 2024. The reason is this. Russia is planning a wider war. The United States will contend it. I am sure that within the next two weeks, you will have a general war. I will not participate in that foolishness. Second, the war of attrition that the EU will play is foolish. The United States has no intention of going to war with anyone. President Biden is adamant about it. But that is providing the United States is not attacked. The plans of North Korea are to send a missile. I do not know what they intend to load it with. If that happens, and I say if; you've got a general war. We dare not appear in that mess. Just take it as I've given it to you. And finally to you, Ron: you have been dizzy. You had a headache. You have had other problems. And for reasons of state that is not compatible.

Ron Besser
I'm checking. Hold on. I am not showing a change to my control. But it's disappeared, Michael, thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. Let it be known that is not kabal Ron, that is a truant individual who has learned that he is no longer welcome. Now this: I'm talking about war. But there is a chance for peace as well. Listen to this. The peace the United States wishes is for combatants to withdraw into their own territory, and never do it again. The United States cannot work through the United Nations easily. For that reason, we are going to suggest the formation of another organization the world will be invited to and it will become the policemen of the world immediately. The United States is looking at it and has concurred with the United Nations that it should listen. We are not going to promise you any visible evidence until they announce it. It's President Biden's child and he is hoping the rest of the world joins him. The United Nations will continue and the United States will continue to be a member. And finally this: I am tired of the kabal fooling around. Ron, you are having trouble with your Light Line.

Ron Besser  
I'm having trouble with the pictures. I am dropping individuals on my board, but I know that they can still hear me. So I'm quite satisfied. I have no idea how many but it looks to be about 20. I thank you all for withstanding this terrible difficulty we are having.

Michael of Nebadon  

• The difficulty is not Michael of Nebadon.
• The difficulty is not entirely the kabal.
• The difficulty is partially a human who wants this taken down and We are removing them forever. You know who they are? Exactly, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Yeah. Okay.

Michael of Nebadon  
The dashboard that you're using is not working right?

Ron Besser  
No. I can't tell all who are here and I've got blank spaces on top of it. I've never seen it behave this way.

Michael of Nebadon  
Well, in any case, Ron it's working normally up here. Because of your problems. I want to truncate this call and at New York Standard Time at 2:45 New York time p.m. 14:45 call back in and we'll continue this Light Line. We have got a lot of kabal and truancy. We're going to cut it off. Come back in at 2:45 and we'll pick this up.

Ron Besser  
All right, Michael. Does anybody else have anything else to say?

Monjoronson  
This is Monjoronson. I have this, Ron. If you truncate now you can't get back in. That is not the kabal that's a new insurrection and we are not going to allow it to continue.

Ron Besser  
People, try to get back in at a quarter of. I will attempt to open this again. But right now I'm being warned all over the place to stop it and refresh and come back in. This is unprecedented. But please bear with us. If there is a problem to getting in, check off and on during the day to see if I can reestablish it even in the middle. It's better than none at all. Okay. Just a minute. Okay, folks, even my controls are not working it. I've got to just cut it off. Even the buttons are not working entirely. So thank you. Just remember, at a quarter of three which is 10 minutes from now I'm going to come back in. Meanwhile, get a drink or something. Thank you. Bye bye.

(end of the second tape and the start of tape three)

Ron Besser  
There, this is the second phase of the Light Line for Sunday, July 21, 2024, at the request of Michael of Nebadon. This tape is the second (third actually) and its as important as the first (two).

Michael of Nebadon  
I am Michael and I wish to make this announcement: Ron has a headache, he is barely able to get his eyes open, and he feels terrible. But he is making sure that you understand there is a change. I have been brewing, in my own Mind the problems that Urantia has without a mission. Today it is proved to me that either you get a mission or the planet is done as far as a progressive planet forever. Ron said to me in the small break: well, now that we have the break, I'm not so sure I wasn't so dumb to set this off an hour from now rather than 15 minutes or so. But the truth is Ron, you did it right.

Because in that small period of time, I the Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon have concluded the following:

• There is no further need for a mission to Urantia. No more.
• Because of that the Magisterial Sons have proposed that they do the missions entirely without being seen.
• Ron objects to that and we listen to Ron carefully. He says without a coherent center that mobilizes what is to be done the people will ignore you. The Magisterial Sons responded: We agree. But what would you have us do? Ron said the following, nothing. Put the missions off until there is a crying need for your logic as spirit. I think that is beautiful. But we won't do that entirely, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Well, I bow to you. Thank you.

Monjoronson  
I am Monjoronson. If we cut the Magisterial Missions off now we leave on Urantia 50,000 individuals who know we are coming. That's your work, Ron. They don't understand it. They don't know what it is. But I assure you, we do and we need to respond. I am Monjoronson, the Magisterial Son of record for Urantia. I am now going to tell you Ron, the precise angle that you must report to and that is to understand there is no further indication a need for the Magisterial Son to appear. But you have of all things a divine patent to do things very differently and this time you're going to make the most of it. It will work and they will be amazed. You've come up with a way how to handle a preparticle that no one ever thought of and you have it patented. Good for you.

Ron Besser  
Just a minute.

Monjoronson  
Now, number two. The entire enterprise that you do every Sunday is so vital to us We want it to continue. Dominick is with us now. Good. He is number two. You call him your Lieutenant. Lieutenant, please follow these instructions. Ron is not able to carry out everything but he can carry out two-thirds of it at least. I want you Ron to form a new corporation and place it smack dab in the middle of the discussion forum. That means adding a category that is incorporated.

Ron Besser  
I understand. Thank you.

Monjoronson  
I want you to call it.

Ron Besser  
Just a minute. Just a minute please. Nothing but trouble. I finally got it.

Monjoronson  
They want you to call, or Monjoronson is speaking: I want you to call it the constabulary of the divine will. And for that reason, Ron, you are not to add just a category you are to append this information as an additional discussion forum online. I want it to be called; The Magisterial

Ron Besser  
I'm writing it down.

Monjoronson  
Mission of Debate. It is to have two categories. One; is the usefulness of the internet. And two; the usefulness of of the human voice. Number three as an afterthought; the trial to establish the internet not but to write a book. I want you to understand that your mind is an idiot. I'll get used to it. Now what good does that do you to know? Ron will probably ask you when he gets organized, how precisely to produce a book that is to be known generally to the population about what is coming.

Ron Besser  
May I speak, Monjoronson?

Monjoronson  
Yes.

Ron Besser  
They will tell you that I've got to use language that screams at a person walking by the book that they can't help, but pick it up. And that's not nice language.

Monjoronson  
Oh, truly. Thank you. I fully agree with you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Well, we'll discuss it if you want and do so now, if you want to.

Monjoronson  
No, I don't want to. You have got to write this book quickly, Ron. Get Dominick to help you. He's online now. The truth of the matter is that the entire issue that we have got to contend with is that the people of the United States are not really human in thinking. They are a high-class animal that sees to their food and their transport for work. But never do they understand what the hereafter demands that they do in the present situation. I am going to make it easily available to you, Ron, what you should do as a human making a good life on a material planet. For that reason, Dominick, you've got to help. Ron is not unwell. He is so severely attacked, that there's not much life left. We are charging that off immediately. He will feel much better this evening.

And now this to all of you: We have used several of you very well. This group in particular, and that's all of you, have everything to gain by following what Ron must do. He has to listen to me primarily to write down what I have to say. And second, he and Dominick must produce a situation in which the home address 2709 Sunset Lane in York is used by a group of people weekly. York has no one here to address The Urantia Book. It is a blue industrial society. It does not understand abstract work. That is what you've got to put up. Those who will publish this Ron are alerted. I will inform you to whom you write.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Monjoronson  
And fully this to you, Dominick: when you are awake or whatever it is you feel you need not pretend to love all that Ron does. He is a worker on the upper levels of thought. You don't work there yet. But he shares it entirely and listen to him when he is told to tell you something. Now, you are no longer showing everything you do?

Ron Besser  
No, I don't. That's because partially the software has been taken down not by them, but by the kabal.

Monjoronson  
You need to download from the office the work of this ability to communicate. You've got two-thirds of it, but a third of it is missing.

Ron Besser  
Oh yeah, I can see it.

Monjoronson  
The truth of the matter is Dominick should download it for you and then send it to your computer. That is because the kabal has seized parts and you are not aware of which.

Ron Besser  
Well, I have computer repair coming tomorrow because of problems.

Monjoronson  
Yes, thank you. I am fully advised that computer repair better do a good job or they are under the spot to explain why it takes four days to get here to go half a block.

Ron Besser  
Yeah, I know they're like that.

Monjoronson  
Yes. Furthermore, Ron, I can do computer repair instantly. Because it's a simple machine.

Ron Besser  
Oh yeah.

Monjoronson  
You find it mysterious to the point that you would open a window and dump it out on your ground two stories down.

Ron Besser  
Oh yeah. Yeah. Easily.

Monjoronson  
Now, the day is coming that a computer is simple. You won't have these machines. You will have a simple device that does what these do. And now this: we have asked you to return to this particular time and place because I do have something to say that is really brand new. You might even want to jot it down and not wait for the tape.

• There is no longer a mission to Urantia.
• The Bible says there is no caricature for truth, you either have the truth or you do not. What is the truth?
• The truth is that I quit Urantia permanently, not. It has Jesus on it one time before in the first century AD. It will have Jesus on it in the 21st century AD and within days of what you're hearing now.
• We are not going to pander to the humans or to the nations on Urantia. Donald Trump, I don't care how you look at him is a mess.
• The triumph of the Father's will, will occur and it will be as stated. Let me make the statements and we start our numbers over.

• No one shall adjudicate Urantia again until I am In the mix to agree to it:
• I am sure that Ron is preparing for his going over. I will not allow it providing he affirms that he will continue to work for the good.
• I want it to be known that he plays a scenario out for me. I watch and I see how good he's going to be. May you improve it. (Ron responds: Oh sir).
• I think you are to all become part of a special mission to this planet.

Ron Besser  
One moment. One moment. One moment.

Monjoronson  
And that includes, I've looked at the list thoroughly, I know each of you, including you Geoffrey Knight, you are included. I will not state it further. And now this: the trial that Ron has been going through is that he must not state everything he knows. He merely goes through the actions that we allow. You do not get the report that he has with Dominick in the evenings.
What those reports are is a commiseration of what to do with Urantia in spite of a lot of bad seeds. We are going to redo Urantia in a way that you will approve. But secondarily, it is a problem that planetary princes don't know how to handle. We have Mantutia Melchizedek as the Planetary Prince. Mantutia also happens to be head of the revelatory commission in Nebadon. Ron did a book with him. Ron will do another book with him providing that Mantutia is agreeable. You are not being forced.

Mantutia Melchizedek  
I will do any work I can with Ron, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I thank you for your trust. Thank you.

Mantutia Melchizedek  
Thank you, Ron.

Manituba Melchizedek  
This is Manituba, Ron, and what about me?

Ron Besser  
You're a hood ornament now. Where I go, You go first. I want you on board, Manituba. You have always been a comfort to me. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael. We are not used to eloquence Ron. But that's it. I am asking, I'm not telling anyone to have a conference with me. We are not going to discuss it in the public. Ron is ill because of the kabal. It must be removed and replaced. And with Dominick's help, it will be done. I'm now changing subjects because this one is too close to the bone. Steven Gitz, you're listening carefully. You owe Ron not but he owes you and he wants you to participate up here in Pennsylvania, not Louisiana. When you can, would you please move here. The chair is already yours. We will discuss this privately with you later.

To you Dominick: Ron considers you his lieutenant. That is a fine position. But you must rid yourself of the west. It can be easily done in a short while and I want to discuss it with you, Dominick. Please transmit. You don't have to share it. And finally this to you, Ron: you will improve greatly. You, I see a picture where your fingers are crossed, and you're falling over in respect.

Ron Besser  
I wondered what that one was.

Michael of Nebadon  
In any case, it's this: you will improve both eyesight and brain in moments. But you will also refrain from being the king of the hill in one respect. You are showing your prospect of free electricity, barely. The people who know about it prize but don't understand it. I'm going to ask you to do another project. And this time, an electric station that uses what they use today only prizes the use of electrons in a different way. It's easy to do. Use both to your advantage.

Ron Besser  
I'm honored. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you.

Rayson  
This is Rayson, Ron. The temperature that you've got in your room right now is in the 80s. I suggest you get yourself a little air conditioner.

Ron Besser  
Oh, is this, that's the things that cool things.

Rayson  
Yes. Yes. You're an ignorant boy.

Ron Besser  
Oh, ma'am. No, sir. Oh, I'm sorry.

Rayson  
Anyhow, this: I want you to listen carefully. I go by transcript. I never let what I say go to chance. But I'm going to say something that's not down. Will you stop that, it is hard to deal with by a divine being.

Ron Besser  
Yeah.

Rayson  
Divine to the point that you stand with the flow.

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Rayson  
And we know you changed that considerably.

Ron Besser  
Oh, sir. Yes, yes, yes.

Rayson  
And now this to all of you: Ron and I joke easily and he jokes easily with the people on the mansion worlds. It's not even joking it's goodwill and I'm ready to work stuff. I am now making available the popes, which you enjoy tremendously.

Ron Besser  
Oh, yes.

Rayson  
And one in particular, Pope John the 23rd.

Ron Besser  
Oh, I know him well enough to speak to him. He's wonderful. He's always a surprise.

Rayson  
Yes, truly. He's like you, Ron.

Ron Besser  
I didn't know I had the Vatican.

Rayson  
You didn't idiot. Anyhow, this: the trial that the truth requires Ron is a huge institution like the Vatican. We are going to insist that you manage one. Magisterial Foundation is beautiful. But we're going to have it called the Triumph of Our Will. And for that reason, get busy. The illness that you feel will be dissipated over the next several days. Stay away from the kabal. You detest them, but they insist. They are removed. Its easily done.

And finally to you Dominick, his lieutenant: you are required to listen once in a while, what he asks. He has nothing now. But the divine will ask him to ask you. And finally this to all of you: thank you for putting up with this extra time. And this extra Light Line. I am more or less sure that Ron should continue these Light Lines. But we're going to ask Dominick to take Sunday generally and to allow Ron to take them when he has to. The other Light Line which you are taking Dominick, it's up to you whether you wish to fill that time in too. But let them know. And finally to all of you: the internet is working very poorly today. I do not know what it is. But Ron can't go through the usual break. The truth of the matter is

Ron Besser  
Well, I have parts of a list. It's a mess.

Rayson  
I am now going to end this Light Line. And thank all of you for attending for what seems to be a little bit mixed up. Even the attendees are a little bit mixed up on my screen. I thank you all for attending. And stay tuned and look for announcements. Because Michael is about ready to move, big time. Yeah, big time. Thank you for listening. And I will see you when I see you next time.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek people before you go. I am a Melchizedek who is particularly concerned about Ron. We've never had a spokesman like this before and we're not going to lose him. He and Dominick have put together a wonderful review. Dominick is an illustrative part of what needs to be presented. Watch the discussion forum for a special program. We will announce it when the time is right. I withdraw Ron.

Ron Besser  
We thank you, Melchizedek. Does anyone have anything else to say?

Machiventa Melchizedek  
No, Ron, that's it.

Ron Besser  
Then it's bye-bye for today, folks. Thank you very much for attending and we'll see you around. Bye-bye.

end

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: MICHAEL on Determining Your Own Value. Sunday LL 07.15.24

« on: July 15, 2024, 09:58:33 am »

• 071424 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Dominick Ohrbeck
• Subjects: in eternity it will have been a gift to have lived and survived on Urantia and each of us must decide to accept that gift, determining your own value, and in a general way the missions are discussed; Q & A
• Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Arthura, Monjoronson, and Machiventa;
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240714_110231 

Dominick  
Okay, I'm making sure I got my bearings. I'm a little, this is Dominick. I'm your host today it's July 14, 2024, Sunday Light Line, I'm transmitting or will transmit with a Light Line, here at Ron's house, it's the home of the foundation 2709 Sunset Lane, here in Pennsylvania, which is famous for current events, you could say, in the last 24 hours. That being said, I don't know if we're going to comment on that today and we'll wait for whoever comes through on the Light Line.

But we do give a quick prayer that the nation calms down and we could get on with the issues that affect us and learn to cooperate certainly rhetorically if not politically and that we improve our nation in a way that does include everybody and we realize what we have before it gets imperiled and we thank You Father, that regardless of the tempus and milestones in our personal lives, in our political lives that we appreciate why we're here with life and that we reach our spiritual potential to know You. Amen.

So we have 19 on the call, and I know from what we shared, we have more people than that actually listening, we have a few guests, welcome. And thank you for all your attendance, all of you. Is there anyone else on the Light Line from the spirit side that I can receive, today?

Michael of Nebadon  
There is, this is Michael of Nebadon. Welcome, all of you, and welcome anyone in the future listening in. Michael of Nebadon is a title that I wore and that I am as creator of this local space universe called Nebadon. I am a Michael Son, a Creator Son. I created you who listen to these tapes. My Father in heaven is your Father. He is our Universal Father. As I experienced in the light, as a mortal, on your planet, those listening on Urantia today, as Jesus. I have as a Creator Son the mortal experience of living the life of a human and not only revealing the Father, our Father, as your Creator Son but revealing the Father as the human Jesus. Regardless of what you think and what you know I am that creator who descended down to you.

It is you who expect Me and everyone in between to help you. You are certainly free to ask for help from wherever you can get it on the spiritual side of things. On that ledger is I and the Father, we work with spirit to reach your mind. When you put all of these things into action are you capable of becoming a trinitized mortal of a universe that Nebadon belongs to designed to express this combination of Trinity. First, Second, and Third Source personified as the Universal Father, Eternal Son, and Infinite Spirit. You might come to different realizations in the course of your life of experiencing one or any one of a combination of singular or dual or even triune combinations. At that point it is your personal experience it becomes quite difficult for you to convey this experience to anyone else, who has not yet experienced it.

In cosmology, you can describe this but it is no replacement for personal experience, life experience of growing older, attaining difficulties, and overcoming difficulties by merely surviving them builds your soul so that you can continue on and learn to become a cosmic citizen beyond just your material citizenship on this planet. We owe you some representation of what good guidance is. We have been unable to fully implement that for 1000s of years now. You know, how effective administration and government can be when it is more than simply just competing self-interests. When you are dealing with entire philosophies and factions that dispute the very nature of what it is to be government. That is part of your eternal experience you will take with you to frankly a vast universe which will have none of such an experience.

Beings will be aghast and infatuated with your origin planet, which is so rebellion-stricken. You have a rich experience of wrestling with very significant universe questions that allow rebellion in the first place. There is error and there is evil that could result from error and evil can be corrected. It is evil when transmuted into sin that begins to tip the ledger of survival evermore towards a quality of lacking survival integrity. But even sin can be corrected. It is only when sin transmutes even further into inequity that survival is only an expiration date away of immortal death.

I am a creator but I am not a death bringer. I can only appeal to the highest courts in the universe. Even though I am sovereign I have always chosen to defer to the higher courts. It is within my power, it is within my jurisdiction that the trajectory of my rule has been inclusive with Paradise. It is only with the supreme that my authority as Michael Son to coordinate with other Michael Sons and create a novel universe conglomeration of united local universes. What this has done is in and of itself has created a situation where the Universe Age has been redirected to a new one. Such a decision is not mine. It is declared from the Paradise Trinity and instigated by Father himself. Such developments are so much larger and so much more

Dominick  
I got the wrong word, well

Michael of Nebadon  
significant then the tumultuous events even on Urantia today. But they are interlinked. Many times on these Light Lines we receive like a press corps a question about our attitude about a current event or the present times and near futures of the planet. You have a very general idea and promise from Myself as Jesus to return for example and when I do return it is not to fulfill a mission that was already fulfilled, when I refer to a bestowal mission of a bestowal son therefore will I not be alone.

We are preparing to be everywhere at once yet as unintrusive as possible within your institutions and organizations that there is no experience of a coup or a revelation or an invasion. The lights will be turned on and God will be revealed. Then you will know and then shall you have free will to react, to join, to reject, and all sorts of in between. Life will go on but not as usual. How could it? I am not your guest, nor are any of my representatives, nor are any such representatives guests who are of Uversa, The Ancients of Days, or from the Paradise Trinity. Those are the proper jurisdictions that you could and should learn in relation to a general geography of cosmology.

For example, the rebellion seeks to disbar the Ancients of Days, but the Ancients of Days are from a location far away from the creation of Nebadon. But they are the intervening deity of God between you, Me, and the Father spiritually and physically. Your pilgrimage as an ascending mortal leads you to that location. But the way is through Me. I will show you the way and Father will be with you the entire way. You will be a father-indwelled and fused creature. That is your origin. That is your destiny. That is more than just your soul. These things are what are so important and you do not get to vote on what you are. You only get to decide whether that is of any value and that you are valuable. Ultimately, you decide if you have universe value. If you decide that you have it, you are granted it because you are declaring in the first small ways that you are real and that you intend to figure that out.

At that point, you will experience one of those triune aspects of yourself. You may not experience your Divine Spirit residing in you as a founder. But as a controller, this Divine Spirit within you might know you intimately and give you an experience that you are more likely to resonate with the Infinite Spirit first or realize brotherhood of Sonship. Brotherhood and sisterhood of humanity that would be an example of Sonship. Or you could have a straight effect of Father communion, you may have an experience or some sort of combination of more than just one. And similarly many, since I did bestow myself on the planet seek Jesus.

Jesus always steered his flock to the Father and to the Father within. In this, he does show the way. And with this, I do have the mortal experience to continue on that mission always. Always is that mission in effect now throughout Nebadon regardless of the time that it happened, say 2000 years ago. It stays alive in every repeating generation since. For the new missions and new attainments occur for planets and systems of planets within the interlinked universes, which turn into large constellations, and which turn into interlinked local universes and on to Paradise. So, you have a gift of what is happening on the planet today. It is not my gift, it is a sour gift to watch such pitiless brotherhood and denial of spirit. We are almost out of cards to play but we are never fully out. Whatever can be salvaged will always be survived. Remember that! All you have to decide is that you have value and the universe will respond and you will see the fruits of that in your surroundings and your relationships begin to have increased value and appreciation. This is the way. If you want to be happy psychologically learn this way.

You cannot attain fame venting on an app that goes into a repository of ones and zeros. That is not the way the universe works. We have a vast spiritual system. It is not magical. When science outstrips its understanding, it is no longer magic, but spirit. Spirit is the language of that which you describe as magic and magic is man's and rebel's attempt to manipulate the human mind. But when you realize and you declare yourself valuable in the universe, the divine spark of God, your destiny of fusion and personality survival becomes the citadel of all confusion and the resilience against all sadness. Depression and struggle is in the human experience of description usually seen in hindsight as a great gift.

We do not intend for you to struggle as a planet at this scale at all. Wars, violence, and unethical predation of intelligent beings preying upon other sentient beings is not an ethical universe lesson to be learned. However, it will be your badge of honor to having survived that on your planet of origin for an eternity and to help the rest of the universe with such lessons. You will have a president and no matter who it is I, Michael of Nebadon am the biggest one. I am the King of Kings and I shall return and you should prepare yourself as if I am and I have. Strive not for violence. Strive not for vengeance. But do strive and when you need that direction of channeling your energy into something you know not which to do; seek Me and you will find. I love you all my children. Good day. This is Michael of Nebadon.

Dominick  
Thank you, Michael. I'll look at the dashboard. It's 2:33, 23 callers, so we got a few new ones. Welcome. For those tuning in, Ron's in the other room playing guest today. He asked me, Dominick, to take the Light Line today. Now welcome Valerie, Elise, weydevu, George H, and a couple of internet callers, Moses and someone else with a telephone number, welcome. I thank you, Valerie, and Moses, and Raz for your transcriptions.

Arthura  
This is Arthura. You're losing your voice, but that's me. Take a drink of water.

Dominick  
All right.

Arthura  
Now relax. And not too much. This is Arthura. Welcome one and all. We give a special performance today of extraordinary thespianic testitude. An iconic word salad. I am Arthura. And I enjoy word games for those who transmit. Dominick here has said quite an incoherent limerick from time to time in front of Ron at my behest. For those learning to transmit this is a test of scribing. That's scribing with an s: learning to transmit the words regardless of the filter of your mind to make sense of them or anticipate what will come through.

I assure you I can make sense at a later date, at a later time, or even a later rhyme. The time to receive spirit is always a freewill choice. Never are you compelled to suddenly think; well I should check in with spirit. No, that is a freewill decision and is mind recognition of a prompt that may be internal or it may be the seeking of meaning of synchronistic external events. The universe conspires either way, too. provoke the mortal, who is an animal endowed with this super spiritual endowment of the Father. We have a vast apparatus of Trinity beings. This is why you learn orders of beings derived from the Trinity.

You are a son of God, you are a mortal ascender. You have parallel to you the angels who are not Father indwelled but nonetheless are very attached to the ministry of the Father within. It is their destiny to serve not just you, but the Infinite Spirit from which they tend to derive and learn the Father through you. Suffice to say, they learn the Father through the mystery of mortal ministration and the director of expression of our Creator Son. When we say our meaning yours and theirs, Creator Son, who has attained the Father. Not only was He and is an aspect of the Father, journeyed to this part of space and creating you. But he has descended into ever-increasing incarnations and the bestowals of the very creations he has made as part of his ultimate Father attainment and sovereignty status. And still, he defers to include Paradise in his sovereign decisions.

I am Arthura and I am an advisor from regions outside of Nebadon. I have an extra sensory instigation into the mind, which allows me through permission of both Michael and your Thought Adjuster, a name for the spiritual control mechanism which is a permission and filtration system and control system of different pressures of spiritual energy and things that would otherwise impinge on your mind and make you lose it. Part of your finite consciousness filters out a lot of what would otherwise get in and furthermore, is so rigidly dense in its material form that even the Divine Spirit within you has to work an entire lifetime just to make small headways usually in this development of early-stage planets.

This is the case but the planet works to evolve these species of mortals who contain all the spiritual endowments, and certainly the Father endowment that they become more and more attuned to spiritual circuits and energies and things around them while they live. And then that becomes in-codified and enculturated and instituted in the planet and its cultures and its civilizations and its institutions. Boy, are you not there at this time. But, you have some amazing planetary experience that no planet outside of Nebadon or the vast regions of space have any idea what you're going through. You have a great gift and there's not much more I can say that Michael hasn't just said but he needs help and I intend to give it and I'm honored along with his legions to represent him. I'm Arthura and I work from the highest levels to the lowest levels of the mortal mind. Try me out. Hear me. You can consider me an extra tuner of the divine gift that you already have. That is all. Good day.

Dominick  
Thank you Arthura. All right at 2:44. Is there anyone else? Before I dive into the dashboard?

Monjoronson  
Yes, thank you for checking. This is Monjoronson. No Light Line should be replete or incomplete anymore without the instigation of the Magisterial Sons allowed to continue with their mission in lieu of all that has been said, and all that is ready to be said. We will show ourselves when the time is right. You unfortunately cannot determine it. Nor can we entirely share such details. Normally you entirely believe, if you thought however, Michael has intimated that the approach might be an all-at-once approach. I could tell you what that is, and it would probably matter not; you would all have different ideas of what that even means.

But let me tell you, the Magisterial Sons originate from the same Paradise location as your Creator Son, these wonderful brothers of ours, the Michael Sons. But we do not get to create entire universes in time and space. We work with these Michael Sons to elevate their creations so that they enter a phase that Arthura spoke to where the planet and not just individuals, but the apparatus of civilizations, society laws, and institutions get ironed out. And we have so much ironing out to do and so much flak in our face, yet to be cooperative in this endeavor, because, frankly, their entire reason of existence is to deny our effective missions. They cannot be barred but they can warp our plans and we do not entirely understand the consequences as they become warped.

But we are reaching a point of no return that will have to take a plan that we always strive to be 100% or in reality 99.999% successful and we have to go with something that is say 78% likely to succeed. These are horrible odds for me and my staff to accept and so, we have deferred. One thing that is certain is that we are unified with Michael of Nebadon and that entirely means we are unified with Father and when you see such high beings of deity know that there is no conflict between us. No, I have nothing further to say. This is Monjoronson and I sign off and you will hear from me at an increasing pace. Good day.

Dominick  
And thank you Monjoronson. I'm listening for anyone else we have a bit of time 10 minutes if anyone would like to start any Q&A now would be the appropriate time. And while we pause we can allow me to check in to see if there's anybody else.

Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa. I ironically stay quiet.

Dominick  
Thank you Machiventa. Well, with nothing further coming in and no questions on the dashboard and that usually prompts somebody, classic. Alright. Robert, I'm about to unmute you. Go ahead.

Robert  
Thank you, Dominick. Any comment by the Celestials on the event that happened yesterday in Pennsylvania (attempted assassination of Donald Trump)?

Dominick  
Your question is?

Robert  
Is there a statement by the Celestial Beings regarding the event that happened yesterday in Pennsylvania?

Dominick transmitting Spirit 
I only receive that it is an act, it is an expression of rebellion, and not condoned. Assassination is the way of the rebel and not of God. And that's all they want to say, Robert.

Robert  
Okay, thank you very much.

Dominick  
You're welcome. Thanks for the question. Just from personal experience, I know that it's very difficult to get wrapped up in all that's going on. And it's probably better to keep your mouth shut and wait for things to pan out. We always regret speaking from the hot seat. So the irony is it fills us full of passion. And the regret is usually it ends up not being well received by at least someone out there who always has a countering or a different kind of view. So temper ourselves and anchor ourselves and speak wisely. But certainly, that doesn't mean censor ourselves. That's all I have to say about that. Thank you for listening. I'm at the end of my battery here. So I think it's just good that we end it on that. And I thank you for listening. Elise before we end this let me just check in with you and see about your status for tomorrow. You're unmuted Elise, if you're there, Elise.

Elise  
Yeah, I'm here. Yes, I'm planning to do the Light Line. Of course, I will. I had a very difficult time connecting, but I bet tomorrow, maybe it's better. We'll just hope so.

Dominick  
Okay, fantastic. And this is Dominick. I'll be there on Tuesday. So we thank you Elise, and we thank everyone else and have a great afternoon and we'll see you later.

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Lightline USA - 11 July, 2024

« on: July 12, 2024, 16:12:29 pm »

• 071124 Audio Tape Light Line USA; host: Ron Besser
• Subjects: This is one of the most important Light Lines, Michael of Nebadon wants to teach Urantia a lesson, Michael of Nebadon is the first Creator Son to attend Father on Paradise, and Ron is now partially morontial and may or may not die in days;
• Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Cabal, Imperator, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Ron’s Thought Adjuster, Imperator, Universal Father, Immanuel, Gabriel, Dominion, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and Deity Absolute; 
• Transcribed By: RAZ ( I welcome corrections - message me )
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240711_110233 

Ron Besser  
Alright, let's try that again. I finally got the conference code right. This is Thursday the 11th of July 2024 an unannounced Light Line for those who may be listening.

Michael of Nebadon  
I want it to be known that the entire situation is so abnormal that we are going to rule; don't speak until spoken to. Thank you. I am Michael of Nebadon. Today is Thursday, July 11, 2024, at 2:03 p.m. or a.m., p.m.. Ron has been hit extremely hard by a cabal that wishes to take the planet over under its own administration. Ron has refused and as a result has asked for this Light Line to make it clear that when there is any other communication to be made to the group, to be extremely careful to watch out for cabal information. Ron is about the only one that knows the difference.

And for that reason, we requested this Light Line in spite of it not being on the schedule. Number one. The entire situation concerning Light Lines and what is to follow after this Light Line is open to questioning. The reason we say that is this: the cabal has suddenly energized itself and has moved on to the planet Urantia and for that reason, makes it dicey to communicate. For that reason then, I want it to be known that this Light Line is held extraneously and contemporaneously without notifying most of you before it has to take place. Oh, we have a couple here with us right now, at least, I'm not talking to an empty room.

Now this: the cabal has insisted that Ron is part of their play, he is not and will not participate. He has made it clear that there is nothing for any of you in correct understanding of what is happening on the planet without referring to Michael of Nebadon properly. Please remember that. We adjust that Gabriel, the Magisterial Sons, and various other officials of the realm including Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit are properly addressing you. We are not saying that the others are improper at all, but just be careful what you believe. This Light Line is probably the last for Ron.

He cannot hold the physical problem that is developing in him in which the mind is insisting on referencing its morontial place. That splits Ron in two and he is aware that he is using the material mind right now to broadcast. And now this: I am Michael of Nebadon. I want it to be understood that the following transmission is valid and must be observed.

• Number one, We are no longer holding forth for any educational purposes what is to be done.
• The cabal has strengthened and we are unsure precisely who and what is in control on Urantia.
• Ron has been hit so severely that he is questioning whether he's able to live another week. He will. But he's got to be exceedingly careful that there is no further problem either with the Light Lines or the personnel associated with the Light Lines.

Ron Besser  
And welcome for joining Elise. You are muted. And I only did that for the noise that I get. Thank you. You are the third person who knows this Light Line is being held and you rather have some exclusive information now. You are muted. Now this:

Michael of Nebadon  
The trial that we must assume must take place. Is that a cleansing operation will begin today about noon New York time.

Cabal  
For that reason, I the cabal mention this:

Ron Besser  
I am Ron Besser. I am not accepting a transmission from the cabal. And that is true as long as this Light Line is being held. I do not feel that you should have the permission to communicate what cannot hold. Michael, I return to you for what you may have to say.

Michael of Nebadon  
And I thank you, Ron, you handle it beautifully. The Supreme Court which you know slightly Ron, is listening carefully. You are doing us the favor of relegating the cabal to the outside. The planetary administration that we have right now is not worthy of a planetary administration. It is taken over by the cabal, and Ron has had to go through the department to even get this telephone to work. For those of you who do not know that this meeting is being held, listen to the tape. Ron does have the tape on. For those of you who are attending and I can name them even on one hand, which is Jose, Roger Krupa, and Elise, you are privileged to learn the following information, no one else has it.

• I am no longer interested in a mission to just the United States. I'm going to make my mission known particularly to China, to Southeast Asia, and oh yes, the EU. If there's anybody interested in the EU, we welcome them.
• The progress that Ron must make to retain himself is impossibly high without me. But I do not have the time to worry it. For that reason, Ron will die. I can't help it. He is 82 and has lived a long and luxurious life compared to the rest of the world. Most of you listening now have done the same, but you are the leaders. God willing and finally this to you, Ron.
• There is nothing you can do further except to hold the Light Line and to hope that others listen to the tape. The cabal is attempting to undermine you and your authority. They can't. And for reasons of state Ron, I am with you all the time. And for reasons of state, you are trying to muddle it into a thank you, and no need to.
• The truth of the matter is that the Light Lines are going to be truncated hereafter. The planet and the planetary government are under siege today by millions of seraphic rebels. They will be knocked down and removed. We don't need them anymore.
• And finally this: to all of you who are listening, which is Elise, Roger Krupa. Jose Vargas, and Ron, they didn't know that the Light Line would be held today. Ron thought it was Wednesday but it's actually Thursday. I want it to be known. And welcome Steven Gitz. The truth of the matter is that you three or four attending are the heart of this mission. And welcome Steven for finally getting the announcement. I want it to be known by all that Ron is not seriously ill, but that they have invaded his private domain of the body and are trying to eliminate it.

He insists that the regular schedule be followed and that he will see to it insofar as he can. Those of you who have joined now are friends of Ron, and of what we need to do. But we can't do it when the entire group is under the impression that Ron is a has been and is leaving. To a certain extent, he is leaving, but not fully. The usual individuals who normally would attend the Light Line were not informed because Ron thought it was Wednesday when it is in actual fact Thursday. That makes a difference in how he operates.

Nonetheless, the following should be understood: Ron has taken it upon Himself to organize and to provide information to this group. He continues to do that until he draws his last breath. We do not see that happening in the near future. And it's up to Father to determine what other future he may have. And finally, this to all of you: the trial, and welcome Charlotte. The trial that must be understood is that I Michael am now rescinding two important messages.

• I am no longer going to hold a regular Light Line. When Ron wants to hold the Light Line he will speak.
• The cabal thinks it has fully surrendered to me and is regarding their full adjudication well. But I am no longer going to easily forgive seraphim that have harmed Ron. He has very little of the original mind left and requires almost a habit to attend to these Light Lines. I am going to restore most of the mind. But he is losing some of it except his assignment to the mansion worlds when it is appropriate that he leaves Urantia.
• And finally this to all of you: there are now five of you besides Ron and this is an uncalled for Light Line and we thank you for checking. There was no way to tell you. This is Thursday, the 11th of July and we must remind Ron to be careful when using the original mind. And now this to Charlotte, Steven, Elise, Roger, and Jose: you have been brave enough just to check to see if there was anything here. Well, today there is and it's one hell of an announcement. Announcement: I Michael of Nebadon am no longer going to achieve further Light Lines other than with Ron, Dominick, Elise, and Roger. Lemuel is far too ill. And the others are not quite ready to do it. If I have cut across you, Amethyst is most welcome to try if she can and several others are most welcome but Ron's memory has been truncated.

Cabal  
And finally this announcement: there are no longer a Magisterial Mission available for Urantia.

Ron Besser  
Michael, may I check that?

Michael of Nebadon  
You certainly may Ron and that is not true.

Ron Besser  
May I check that, please?

Imperator  
This is Imperator. What you are hearing Ron is not cabal but someone important called Michael of Nebadon.

Ron Besser  
I thank you Imperator and proceed Michael.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. What a check. I am not sustained in my life well enough to understand why you had to do that.

Ron Besser  
Michael, I have no sense of having the habit before of being sure it is you. They have damaged my mind considerably. I apologize.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you. That is enough. The truth of the matter is that you have restored all that they taught or took. I am making it impossible for them or you to speak to one another forever. Thank you. And finally this, I need to announce this: so I announce it to five, so what? The tape will be put up. Elise, would you ensure that it's put up? Ron doesn't even think about it. But put it up when it's ready.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
And finally this to all of you: I am Michael of Nebadon. I am the Creator Son, and I am sovereign. Ron has seen to it that my voice is sovereign and that he brooks no opposition to what I demand. For that reason, Ron will stay on the planet until his bark has gone old, and that he can barely put a leaf out.

Ron Besser  
Oh, goody.

Michael of Nebadon  
And for that reason, Ron, you brought it back to a normal cadence. You are not going to disappear. You're going to become very old in the material, and hold forth until there is a decent response from the Urantia Foundation, the Fellowship, and all affiliated groups to the fact that:

• I am the Creator Son, and I am sovereign.
• That Machiventa Melchizedek is now looking at the other groups for transmission and finds them in the past.
• The entire rupture of Ron's mind today is repaired. He now has it fully returned and use it well, Ron. And this: don't start. The truth of the matter is that the Trinity that is under the court of Machiventa Melchizedek is now fully operational. You are delighted Ron.

Ron Besser  
Oh, am I ever. Finally, an authority to monitor the treason? I thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. Now, to you, Ron. You have seen to numerous acts of kindness and prevailed to make sure that there is a Light Line and that there are facilities to handle it. You've done it with Dominick and he has been a loyal and trusted follower. (indiscernible) Starting tomorrow, which is Friday, the 12th of July 2024 we are going to institute a daily Light Line. Other than the schedule you have, make sure that you are available for the extra Light Lines that are going to be made available. You don't mind.

Ron Besser  
No, Michael, I have nothing else to do under the circumstances. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
You will reply well when you understand that I now have appropriated you as part of the Supreme Court over Urantia. The one known as Ginsburg, who recently died from the Supreme Court on Urantia is in charge of the Supreme Court now over Urantia.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
For that reason Ron you are most welcome. You believe in me.

Ron Besser  
Solemnly, thoroughly, and entirely. Thank you. I can't ask for anything more.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
I am Ruth Ginsburg. I'm alive. I'm kicking. I'm well. And now I understand the importance of you, Ron. You are the one voice which is making sure that Michael is understood as a sovereign Creator Son. As such, I am now infused with your enthusiasm. For that reason you smile, and you say you look forward to at least meeting you. You will not only meet me Ron, but I will confer with you as the Supreme Court.

Ron Besser  
I am deeply honored. That is considered privileged information. And I am grateful to hear it.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Thank you, Ron. I am fully sure that as Ruth Ginsburg I am going to lose that title in another few weeks. I am advanced enough Ron to be on the third mansion world. I believe you are

Ron Besser  
I'm no, I am not on any mansion world. But I attend those on the fifth.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Thank you. I didn't know that for sure. Now, what we must be sure of is that the Supreme Court is now in charge not only of you, Ron but of your group particularly those who are attending today.

Ron Besser  
I will tell you who is attending. It's Jose Vargas, Roger Krupa, Elise, Steven Gitz, Charlotte from Alabama, Donna and Larry Whelan, besides myself. That is because this is an unannounced Light Line until today this morning almost when it took place. My apologies. But that is what has happened when the Creator Son demands action. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Ruth. I believe you were still speaking, Ruth. Go ahead, please.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Thank you, Ron. You handle it beautiful. I am Ruth Ginsberg. For those of you who do not know the Supreme Court of the United States. I was a justice for eight years. Ron says you didn't remember exactly but you knew you were almost always there. Yes, Ron. Thank you. I want to announce to those who are American citizens that the Supreme Court is still valid and good. They are excellent attorneys. They are excellent arrangers of the law. I support everything done so far. Thank you, Ron.

I am also the head of the American sector of the Supreme Court on high. I'm announcing to all of you that the Supreme Court under Machiventa Melchizedek on Urantia is about to start taking names and making sure that the mansion world are understanding those who support the missions to Urantia. What are the missions? What's left? Let me tell you. Number one, the Magisterial Sons are here to stay. You're glad, Ron? Vaguely. Not only are the Magisterial Sons here to stay, the entire group of the mansion world leaders are now going to hear your Light Lines, Ron. You are under severe attack. Your mind was severely and gravely injured this morning and you finally made it into a Light Line in spite of no announcement practically. That is the sign of a grand personality that sees to what is correct to do.

Ron Besser  
Now we have (counting) 123456 individuals listening besides myself.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
It is a very important Light Line folks. You almost accidentally have arrived in spite of no one else. This is something you ought to hear.

Michael of Nebadon  
I am the Creator Son of Nebadon. I am Michael of Dominion alone. Nebadon is under the auspices until I return by Immanuel. Immanuel is a higher official, not of the original Immanuels any longer. We are not yet announcing his title. And you've got it, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Yes, I don't I am not strong enough to pull the words out. I got it. You're right.

Michael of Nebadon  
I will say it then. Immanuel is now in charge of Nebadon. I have not resigned. I am stepping aside to teach Urantia a lesson. I didn't want to say this so blatantly but I have got to. Those who listen to this tape and there are a few must understand. This announcement will be announced on other Light Lines. But this is the first one and I'm glad that Ron's made the announcement. Let me speak to it again. Michael of Nebadon's announcement: Michael of Nebadon refuses Urantia as a bestowal planet until I am fully in control and that I am sure that the powers on Urantia understand who I am, what I have to say, and what they must obey. I'm not going to tell you how the police are going to enforce them. Thank you, Ron. Further, let it be known that Ron will stay here for the duration of the Magisterial Sons desire to have him available.

Ron Besser  
I am most grateful, please continue.

Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Ron. And now this to you, Dominick. You are the second in command. You are not even aware that this Light Line is proceeding but I hope you listen to the tape. It contains something important for you. Ron has decided that you should own the property at 2709 and maintain a real center for the Light Lines and for the organization of the patent and other things that need to be done on behalf of Michael of Nebadon. We are making Ron available for the entire structure that Monjoronson, Serara, Sen Sen, Hanson, and Denron are ready to accept. We are not pushing this upon you the Magisterial Missions or the Sons but I am asking the favor to allow Ron to continue if you are willing to allow him part of your administration.

This is Michael of Nebadon and I state the following: there is no reason for you to stay Ron except you love the work. That is enough for me to designate you as part of the Trinity control of the new government that will append not the United States but many others for its powers. You are an associate and I know you thank me. For reasons of state, you have no title name. That's all right, Ron. All you said to me was you are enjoying this and that your preferential is to remain almost anonymous. That's true.  Now the truth of the matter is that Dominick is counting on this house to be his home too. Your death, you will it to him so he has a structure. The truth of the matter is Dominick will never inherit the home so long as you live. I'm going to suggest that you and he discuss it and bring to my attention your decision. I am delighted to hear you say you will consider it.

Ron Besser  
I do. I'm not sure where this goes. Thank you.

Michael of Nebadon  
Fully understood.

Ron's Thought Adjuster  
And now this, Ron. We advise against any such conversation. This is your Adjuster.

Ron Besser  
I thank you, Adjuster. I need some input and insight and your speech. Thank you.

Ron's Thought Adjuster  
Furthermore, I am your Adjuster. Do not speak to this until we advise you to do so. He is looking at a new arrangement and if that takes place, you are done.

Ron Besser  
Is that cabal?

Michael of Nebadon  
It is.

Ron Besser  
This is a good example folks, to those listening: of the viciousness of the cabal. The human mind is not able to tell frequencies apart. We can only tell by the attitude of the speaker. I am holding any decision to do anything until it can be clarified by the proper administration of Michael of Nebadon or with Immanuel or other official.

Universal Father  
This is the Father, to you, Ron. You have heard incorrectly. Just let it be.

Ron Besser  
All right. And now this to all of you who made this Light Line unannounced and I thank you, there are six, and that is extremely helpful, I'm not talking to an empty room. I am physically in difficulty. My mind is dizzy. I have trouble getting a sentence out straight unless they are in full control. The trial for this property is that several interests are insisting I give it to them or that I go through them to sell it at my death. I am announcing there is no death, at least yet and that I am in full control of the three-acre 2709 property, and that there is no change of status with Dominick or the board or me and anything else to do with the discussion forum and the pact. I'm standing the pact.

Thank you, Ron. With this exception.

Yes, Michael.

Immanuel  
And it's not Michael, I'm Immanuel.

Ron Besser  
Yes. To whom do I speak?

Immanuel  
I said Immanuel.

Ron Besser  
I need verification, Immanuel. I have none. Michael, can I call upon you to straighten this out?

Michael of Nebadon  
You certainly can. That Immanuel happens to be the genuine item. You can't tell?

Ron Besser  
No, I have no sense of even the frequency at the moment and I've got a slightly burning forefront in my forehead and my right lateral side of the brain. It's not pleasant.

Immanuel  
That is me reinforcing it, Ron, so you can tell.

Ron Besser  
I am grateful, it's very important. Thank you, Immanuel and Michael,

Gabriel  
Thank you, Ron. I am Gabriel and I'm part of that.

Ron Besser  
And I thank you then Gabriel for your participation.

Gabriel  
Thank you that is more than adequate. I am Gabriel. I want you please to understand Ron that the entire use of a Light Line today is a surprise to me and to Michael. You awoke this morning a little confused. There was a cabal in your ear insisting that you were theirs.

Ron Besser  
Yes, but I didn't take it as final even for them. I left it in limbo, Gabriel.

Gabriel  
Thank you. That is a beautiful answer.

Ron Besser  
The truth of the matter is that to all of you listening and particularly to you Gitz who has put so much into this. I damn near bankrupted you and I'm sorry for that. But the truth of the matter is it will be fully restituted to you when I have it to give it back to you. And fully to the rest of you: Donna and Larry Whelan, Roger Krupa, Jose Vargas, Elise, Charlotte, and I'm sorry if I missed anybody. Oh yes, me.

Gabriel  
The truth of the matter is and listen carefully: the missions to Urantia will proceed. The missions will proceed, hang in there. There is a lot of talk about truncating what has already been established. Ron listens to the old transmitters coming on and using Machiventa Melchizedek primarily to give transmissions. He respects Machiventa far to much to complain. But he's wondering why they cannot join in as a unit with the Magisterial Foundation only as transmitters not as being ruled by the Magisterial Foundation or Ron's work but to put it together as a unit. We are inviting the Magisterial truncation

Ron Besser  
One moment. I'm getting a conflict. One moment.

Immanuel  
This is Immanuel, Ron. We're pulling that back. They must decide on their own what they want and how much they want to be part of this gift to Urantia. We are making it available in a transmission soon, maybe today what we want. You are open to the days they may want.

Ron Besser  
I would prefer Thursday, Friday, and Saturday for transmission. But it doesn't matter that much. We will schedule them for later other than 2:00 p.m. Thank you. That's all I require. Thank you.

Immanuel  
I am fully aware now of your self-organization, Ron. You are not against it anyway.

Ron Besser  
No, I'm not. Using any effort is worth it. And it would help tremendously to have a single unit speak to it. Although other units may exist, that is correct. There should be a sign of unity, this is Ron speaking, from Urantia.

Immanuel  
I fully agree, Ron.

Ron Besser  
It has to be done through an organization. We are senior to all of them. Thank you. I leave it to Michael of Nebadon to decide our appropriateness. Thank you. That is entirely fair to you Michel and to you Immanuel and to the Dominion.

Dominion  
Thank you, Ron. This is Dominion. You are the first planet that we have an interest in, in all of Nebadon. Urantia is the home of the bestowal son of the Creator Son of Nebadon. And for that reason, you are being hit by the cabal to gravel your voice but I assure you it's recognized and will be beaten back. I want it to be known that this Light Line is primarily one of the most important Light Lines to have taken place in the last three to five years. We are Dominion. We have been bade to speak. Ron, you have full and gallant support for the Dominion.

Ron Besser  
I think it is so important.

Dominion  
Dominion now attends to the right hand of God, to the Father. You are the first person to recognize it's importance, Ron, and though you cannot elucidate all of it, you're too small. You know, it is immensely important for the local universes to join together and support the Paradise administration with Uversa the government of the local universes and of the planets. For that reason, please be advised that we are considering you to be an important part of the administration of the Dominion.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
This is Goldberg, Ginsburg, Ron, you are moving all around the edge of your mind trying to get it to work. What is wrong?

Ron Besser  
I have a tenuous a tenuous ability to control mind. But they have harmed my full control. I don't know what is left Immanuel and others interested, Dominion. Thank you.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
We are aware that they have attempted to destroy that mind, Ron. It is found fully and done and that the cabal is done. You are aware of its extreme importance.

Ron Besser  
Yes, far beyond my capacity to understand its authority.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Oh, yes.

Universal Father  
This is Father to you, Ron, you are the first to recognize Dominion as a capital. Do you bow slightly not knowing what I mean?

Ron Besser  
No, I don't know what you mean by a capital, Father. To me, it is the side for strength of neighborhood local universes. I don't know its importance, otherwise. I fully support it and thoroughly enjoy it. Thank you.

Universal Father  
You are the first one, Ron, to admire what we have done. I am the Father of all. You are now running up against the hour for this transmission. You are free to go if the hour is more than you want to spend. Because I'm going to take another 10 minutes at least to explain something to all of you off the tape and on the tape. Michael of Nebadon is the first Creator Son ever to attend Me in person. Well within my frame of power and authority. I didn't know that was possible until the Consummators of Universe Destiny advised Me that I was to be joined on Paradise by those Creator Sons who show outstanding and irregular love of the Father's authority and care. And for that reason, I must admit to you Ron, you are the first human to understand the authority of the Creator Son is a myth. Old big stuff. Yes. You are also the first to be so comfortable that you can joke with Him even in an extremely important announcement. You are an outstanding citizen on Urantia. We can't take the illness from you but we can mitigate it.

Ron Besser  
I am grateful and thank you.

Universal Father  
Thank you, Ron. The truth of the matter is you are the first human to put a parallel organization together that includes the Creator Son and Melchizedeks as directors. You have indicated in writing that they are so and that they are the final authority and arbiter of what happens to the Magisterial Foundation. We think it is a beautiful name and we shall supply it with branches. This is unplanned. You are feeling in your legs extreme pain. Why is that being done, Ron?

Ron Besser  
Well, it could be cabal. I don't know how the illness is sustained.

Immanuel  
I am not the cabal. I am Immanuel. I am of the Trinity, Ron, and as such I convey to you and to the trinity of Urantia the following information: number one. Tell them, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Folks. We have taken slightly over an hour on the telephone companies organization. They tend to cut us off over an hour. If you want to hear more of this, we'll let them cut us off if that is what they're going to do and then within 10 minutes, I will reinstitute another meeting that we have now on using the same architecture. Just be aware that if we are cut off, let it happen and then telephone back in. I will reopen the Light Line in about five or 10 minutes. I'm sorry Father, for business.

Universal Father  
That's all right, Ron. Now I am the Universal Father. Ron, you are in pain from the tip of your toes almost up to your waist.

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Universal Father  
That is to subside. You are most grateful and I know that, thank you.

Ron Besser  
I thank you, Father.

Universal Father  
I want you to know, Ron, that you're a pain in the neck.

Ron Besser  
I get fed information, Father, that is personal and I apologize. It becomes known when I repeat it in mind. I don't mean to do it but there it is.

Universal Father  
I apologize for getting up on you for it. I now understand the mechanism.

Ron's Thought Adjuster  
This is Adjuster. I'm not doing that. The Deity Absolute is, Ron. 

Ron Besser  
I welcome Him wherever he is positioned.

Deity Absolute  
Thank you, Ron, I'm hearing this now. It is vitally important to all of you as small a number as you are to hear this.

Immanuel  
I Immanuel, now over the panacea of Dominion past and future do declare you a hostage not of the supreme but of the cabal, and as a result, you are not held accountable but you're nothing but accountable. It tells us of the thinness of their authority. I, Immanuel of Nebadon and of the Dominion now speak the truth. We, the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit do hereby declare that you Ron are eternal, but you need to go through the process.

Ron Besser  
Thank you.

Immanuel  
You have no other way of assignation, but a mere thank you is enough. But your whole body is into it. And we have received the bow of acceptance. I never met a human who could do that. Fully, those of you who are attending today and we can almost put you on one hand are going to hear something very unusual. It's a shame the rest of them are not attending. number one I Immanuel of Nebadon and of the greater universe declare you Ron unexpectedly done as a human. You must become morontial. We will see to it eventually. But number three, we are fully aware that your illness is modest to your understanding and that the cabal is constantly hitting you on the body and the mind. You have withstood it perfectly with our help. Fully, Ron this: your mind fires in spite of our proscription. We accept. 

Ron Besser  
Yes.

Immanuel  
I want you to be known as the father of a cabal with Urantia.

Ron Besser  
Most have to know the word first.

Immanuel  
The truth of the matter is Father has cleared Urantia entirely of the cabal now. It doesn't exist anymore, folks. You are free. And Michael affirms to you it is who they say I am and it's not. I'm afraid so. What does that mean?

Ron Besser  
It could mean several things. I stand back.

Universal Father  
Thank you. You must understand everyone listening that I am the Universal Father and I will not have a discussion of this nature so vitally important without the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit attending as the Trinity. You. Miss Ginsberg, to recognize you, are fully in control if you need to say anything.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Ron Besser, we are now going to go into an extraordinary conference. I want you to pull down this Light Line for now.

Ron Besser  
One moment.

Michael of Nebadon  
This is Michael of Nebadon. I will give you the signal, Ron.

Ron Besser  
Thank you, Michael.

Michael of Nebadon  
But I want to say this: Ron you have stepped right into the middle of the heart of the controversy over Urantia. You didn't mean to do anything but hold a Light Line. But remember that when you hold the deity in response to you they are truly honest and ready to make decisions with you. Let me tell you this:

• You are no longer holding forth as a mere human.
• You are in part, part of the morontial Supreme Court. There is nothing further we need to speak to in this discussion and we are asking for you to pull it down and end it when I tell you. This Light Line is extremely important. Ron holds it mainly on his own characterization of the extremity that I am placed in and that he needs to participate at least with the angst that I feel for what has happened to you, Urantia. I am going to close this in a moment and when I do Ron, stay away from any further Light Lines until I tell you. Good. This is Thursday the 11th of July 2024. There are no scheduled Light Lines until Sunday. Hold your Sunday Light Line. You will be available, Ron. You are not sure.

Ron Besser  
I am positive I've got the order to shut down.

Michael of Nebadon  
Indeed you do.

Ron Besser  
My feeling, if I may press this, is that my life is over and that I die within days.

Michael of Nebadon  
Proceed as normal and I will get to you later on about what is proposed. Meanwhile, folks, thank you for listening. I'm going to have Ron shut the Light Line down now.

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