Egads Naim Oliveira, for a 23 year old you pack an overload of philosophical negatives I seldom see except for the historical films of the Bolsheviks of the 1930's. In fact, you are speaking out as they did in the 1930's in their propaganda films and enunciation of their five and ten year leaps for world Communism to catch fire and take the world by storm.
The instigation of Jew bating was scathing and deadly then and Hitler and Stalin saw to a lot of pogroms and internment labor camps to take them out of their social systems and relieve them of their wealth and many times, their lives. You echo it with that silly Yahweh banker stuff and I do wonder what has radicalized you to the point no revelation of the highest authority could tolerate using someone that has such revolutionary hatred toward racial traditions.
Traditional designs are based on those who are better capable to lead, and you need only see that the running of wealth and science is all that is. is where do we take problems to be solved the best? For atomic research it used to be the University of Chicago, and secondly, using the Rothschild family for expertly keeping allied monetary systems running to beat the Nazis. It is strange that so many as students and in some governments forget what won the wars and who allowed the best chance to remain advising yourself of a vote in a representative government you yourself benefit from today.
It is also odd to report that genetics play a futile role in anniversaries of hatred and stigmatizing dislike of other racial groups. Do you realize that the Middle East is primarily a culture of the Nodites? And that the Nodites were a rebellious group who sided with the spirit rebels with the old Caligastia forum? As a group the Nodite population prefers to keep to itself and persevere but in the case of the entire area of what we now call the Middle East, it has lost its Nodite traditions and basks in oil wealth that depends on bankers around the world to keep straight for them. Yet they are confused by the modern idea of "rights" for anyone except for monarchy and the elite oil princes.
I ask why you bother to take on so much to dislike and warn against? such an attitude leads to better housing for you perhaps, but it denigrates the world order to be accepting of a revolutionary idea that Jesus was a Son of God or that He matters at all anymore when there are so many interesting things to hate or punch in the head over. I just fail to see how these views you hold with a few others apparently, have anything to do with epochal revelation that prefers to talk about high values in place of the smut of Jew bating and national envy concerning your own lot.
Philosophical discussions are always welcomed here, but I soundly dislike seeing you blame ills on racial groups that are entirely innocent of accusations they are out to take anything away from you at all. Fear pervades your accusations mostly because you see little to correct abuses in these systems, but for some reason you blame racial hegemony to cause abuses all men own up to if they can get away with it.
What you see in Venezuela, Occerpa, is another incident of a dime a doze dictatorship based on the crudest visions imaginable, and that is a majority supporting anything they can get for free for so-called necessities. The United States has this type of internal nation state with Democrats who play the free game with education and taxes, yet the programs they advise to adopt have proven to bankrupt every society that ever tried them along with Venezuela. Guatemala, Argentina. and Chile to name a few recently. Indeed, one needs to worry about the banking system, but it is not the Yahweh bankers who cause the greed to spend yourselves silly over cars and television sets.
I would hope there comes a better tone to these discussions and I distinctly dislike discussions that use scape goats to cover up one's own weakness to want more than can be achieved without a good political and financial system helping one to get more if t hat is what you really want.
Ron Besser
MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "I worry not about these statements in rebuttal to both of you above. Being revisionists is one thing, but wanting to harm other people because of the inane practices of faltering political and social systems is useless rhetoric and I see Ron really bridle with your statements Oliveira . You and Occerpa are not poor but you talk like you are for studying the way to divide your nations into the haves and have nots. Ron is wealthy by your standards but he considers himself poor due to the exchange rates he must pay to live in such a beneficial environment. He should live in Brazil to see how inflation ruins the best of plans to own property or the Chile no longer has the funds to run the State enterprise that saved thousands of live yearly by feed the poorest in the land subsistence grain. All in all it is up to each individual to decide what to support in this life, and then try to make a difference. But in Ron's case he holds no man guilty of anything unless they prove to him they are out after something that is outright theft or murder in the name of some religion. There is no difference between you Naim Oliveira and Ron except he welcomes controversy based on genuine problems one can face together, and lets the petty bickering you pick up Oliveira alone as it is a waste of time, energy, and even money.
"We live in a consequential age, and because of that Naim, you are being held to task to do something, and not lay back and depend on what you already have to live a better life. Jesus Himself fell out of love with the ideals of His first Apostle, Peter, when Peter threw a poor man out of the tent who wanted to listen to the Jesus discourse on wealth. He was genuinely interested and yet was disdained by an Apostle who should have known better.
"You Naim, in particular, need humility to be successful with what is coming so soon to Brazil and all of South America just to survive as this world of oil rich governments and coffee rich farms will end. I am the Creator Son who must oversee Urantia collapse into the disabuse of most of its working culture systems and I hate it too, and that is because it will create new wars between people like yourself, and the oligarchy that forces traditional means of operations down your throat. Ron does not decree you are wrong at all, but he says start placing the blame in the right place and forget those cultural scapegoats you love to throw up now and then in conversations with other revolutionaries. He sees you like so many others all aflame and no where to put that energy and suggests you reform society with it, but no epochal revelation will help you unless you assign the mistakes to the proper villains and stop scapegoating.
"I leave this discussion easily as Ron does I am sure as we both are very tire this morning of having no trust in systems that backfire on us all the time. You Naim are excellent in mind and spirit, so please don't ruin any of those personal systems you have to evaluate the truth. Evaluate the truth and not scapegoats I implore you and you will have people like Ron to support you in your effort to reform worn out and luckless financial systems we have today everywhere. I am Michael of Nebadon and wish all a good day. "
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