ARTHURA: Missions & Spiritual Ecology & Economy. Jesus and Michael. LL 05.07.24

[Dominick O]

@Andre, my own understanding from those lines you presented as new, is that only the last line is something relatively new. The rest is more or less stated in the FER. But if we insist it is revelation, then it probably qualifies as the coordinating and clarifying type.


@Occerpa. To summarize, the spirit ecology experienced an immediate effect of the Spirit of Truth. And the spirit economy experienced an immediate affect of humans receiving TA's at those young ages of their first moral decisions. Which hadn't been happening until after Michael's completed 7th Bestowal and we now have Jesus with us too.

From the internet:
Affect and effect are two words that are commonly confused in writing.
The basic difference is this:
Affect is usually a verb, meaning to influence or produce a change in something
Effect is usually a noun, meaning the result or consequence of something.

[occerpa]

Thank you Dominick, I appreciate your attention and your contribution to the topic, and also, I am very happy that you can give Ron a hand in this arduous and demanding task such as the direction and administration of this exceptional forum.
Taking into account your important and timely observations on ecology and spiritual economy, the former relating to the Spirit of Truth and the latter to the Adjuster, and your emphasis on the fact that the Thought Adjuster had not been descending but after the completion of the seventh bestowal of our creator son Michael of Nebadon; I would like to know when that divine gift from the Universal Father stopped. Because I consider that there were many personalities before Christ, who demonstrated to be inhabited by this divine gift. For example, the leaders of ancient religions, all the philosophers of ancient Greece and before that, the pre-Socratic philosophers, and other personalities. If it is clear, that the Spirit of Truth, since it is a gift of the Creator Son, was only granted after the ascension of Michael of Nebadon. But is possible that I may have misunderstood that statement, so I apologize. Thank you again Dominick, because your comment proves the importance of the topic.
 

[Andre_P]

Thank you Dominick. If almost all of this was already in the Urantia Book, it was very useful for Arthura and you to remind us of it.

[Dominick O]

@Occerpa.
The spirit economy prior to the 7th Michael Bestowal and life of Jesus, as it relates to the Father's gift of his Indwelling Spirit bestowed to humans, and as you have described it, is good. You are describing the spirit economy of the Thought Adjuster, as it was before it was affected by Seventh Son. In other words, Thought Adjusters were at the discretion of Father or by granting the petition of the human desire, prayer, attainments, etc.



I'm just using the term, seventh son, to summarize the special nature of the 7th bestowal of Michael of Nebadon.


@Andre
Come to think of it, the use of the word-term, ecology, is new. I looked up the origins and the term is used by a zoologist in 1873, describing a relationship between an organism and its environment.

[occerpa]

Thanks Dominick. I still have this concern: since the soul is the product of the mortal mind as the uterus, and of the Thought Adjuster as the germinator, that is, the mind as the mother and the Adjuster as the progenitor, of the new creature, the human soul. this means that all those cases those you refer to, before the Seventh Son, were still "human beings", who existed without a soul? For me it is clear that there can exist, and I believe that many of us still exist, that we cannot enjoy the benefit of the Spirit of Truth, because this fact is conditioned to personal growth and the achievement of psychic circles, which, as explained, in our time, only upon reaching the third circle, is it possible to begin receiving the transmissions of this New Master or Spirit of Truth. I'll leave it there, to avoid making myself uncomfortable here in the forum. Thanks Dominick

[Dominick O]

substitute the term "mind" with "personality."

The primary question you ask is related to the Ascencion plans revealed to us. The soul ascension is simply different. It's not that one or the other has a soul or not.

With that answer, do you understand enough to answer which type of mortal ascends to where and whom?