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  • 061824 Audio Tape Tuesday Light Line USA; Host: Dominick
  • Subjects:-Difference between Transmission & Channeling; -Memo of Cooperation; - The Law of cooperation; -From rebellion to Cosmic insanity; -Brief History of rebellion; -Don’t get caught up in politics of the day, in their worst they tend to represent ideologies of rebellion that is to say non-cooperation & destruction.
  • Speakers: Machiventa Melchizedek
  • Transcribed By: Moses Ouko
  • Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240618_110045
Dominick
Hello everyone, it's Tuesday Lightline, June 18th. For those of you joining on video, you'll see outdoors and you'll see my cat. And hopefully everyone else can hear my voice quite clearly. Okay, just had to mute the internet caller there, no worries. Okay, so starting over, it's June 18th, Tuesday Lightline, and we've had a series of lightlines and they shall continue. And just as a note, check in for Wednesday's light line. We've announced that Lemuel is taking a well-deserved rest from the whole ordeal so he can really rest up after a gauntlet of medical procedures over the last year. And we wish you well, Lemuel. And everything to get better. And if you never come back, we really thank you for all the time that you've given us. And that's regardless of whether you're in death or in life. If you're retired from Light Lines, we welcome you back anytime. And we wish you a speedy return to health. And likewise, for everyone else. We wish the same for everyone else. We pray to Father for a good light line, clean circuits and that truth prevail.  And that good come out of these light lines, and that that good grows, and grows, and reaches as many people, and changes people for good, and growth on their path to knowing you, Father. Thank you. All right, so I'm trying to remember the procedure. Is there anyone who I can receive today on the lightline?

Machiventa Melchizedek
Yes, there is. This is Machiventa. We wish to give a quick prelude to what the words of this transmitter have tried to convey as a bumper for light lines. For those unfamiliar with the word bumper; It is simply something that consistently is advertised, sloganized, or explained as an identifying or explanation phrase or sentence or even a piece of music that would come at the beginning and end of the program. That's certainly light lines are. So, this is Machiventa urging the transmitter to connect. Light lines for those listening and for those possibly new, are not what you would consider from the past connections to the spirit world. Connected with the word channeling. If ever the word is used in the context of a light line, it is a down step so that you are bridged to the new concepts relating to restored and newly established spiritual circuits of communication to the planet. If you ever have a question about this, freely ask and there should always be an explanation. We cannot meet you where you are at all the time. You will eventually have to understand what channeling was and what it is not, and differentiate between what was known as channeling and what is the future of spirit communication, known as transmission. The current state of channeling has been studied through watching, studied by this transmitter, and then shared to Ron, who you could say is one of the primary transmitters, certainly in sponsoring this program and producing it. That the current state of the word channeling encompasses many things beyond just the narrow scope of spirit communication. And the state of the word now encompasses things dealing with psychological and energetic systems not fully comprehended or defined by science, but nonetheless being approached scientifically and since there's no vocabulary in their arsenal of words and meanings and understanding of what spirit is, therefore has channeling taken on all of these things to the point that it is watered down.
What transmission is, is a similarly utilized function of the human consciousness, which is now better understood in many different terms. You can look at brainwaves, you can look at psychological constructs of psychology, you can look at neuroscience, biology, energy measurements of electric signals, chemical signals and so on and so forth. And yet, science will never fully reach the explanation of spirit contact. Perhaps only the observation, and by stating observation, that is one of the oldest scientific methods on the planet, is observation. Beyond that, there is the cementing testimony of personal experience and repeated personal experiences which eventually bolsters into a confidence of faith and then a general understanding of no longer questioning whether spirit is real. There is a certainty that it is. At that point you are essentially, one of the advanced, or you could say evolved, advanced could mean a simple progression. You've progressed to a state of spiritual status. In this regard, are you quantifiably known by spirit in ways that we must reveal to you and that you cannot measure, but by qualitative measures. But in general, those qualities are quantifiable in your environment as what we define as cooperative attitudes, cooperative behavior. And what happens over time is cooperation becomes somewhat standardized and culture aims to propagate and educate the new generations into that culture of what has worked for cooperative coexistence, which is necessary to profit from your environment. Now, thank you for listening. This is Machiventa.

We are in full steam. This morning. We gave what's called a memo of cooperation. And we simply define this in a few, in three things. What does cooperation involve? Now, this is not comprehensive. If you think of something that's different or similar or a better word, the chances are it probably fits somewhere in the subject matter we're about to provide. And that is three things you could say involving cooperation. And that is there's some sort of exchange, there's some sort of communication and there's some sort of travel or motion. So one, in no particular order, this is not… But one is exchange, two is communication, and three is travel, or better put, freedom of motion. Now, what's non-cooperation look like? What are some of the opposites of that? With exchange, the opposite of non-cooperation might turn into a monopoly, a monopoly of power and authority over the exchange to the point of monopoly. Non-cooperation with communication has much to do with intent. And so, one example of communication is insincere communication. And that would be feigning communication as expressing one intent but secretly having a different intent. And this would be, say, a common petty human behavior of intelligence gathering like gossip for the sake of bad mouthing or stuff like that. I lost it Machiventa. I don't know where to go. Frankly, I don't want to go there. But intelligence gathering and intent go towards the opposite of cooperative intent of communication. And travel in motion for cooperation, the opposite of that for non-cooperation would be confinement, especially confinement of citizens in good standing. Now, when you are a citizen in the spiritual sense, and we define that as in the real sense, once you are a cosmic citizen. The only things that restrict you from travel are things that are unattainable or sealed off to you because they're of no use to you and held as secrets of higher spirit and deity. So those would be things regarding a memo of cooperation. And so a memo of cooperation is meant to be viewed as the basis of unity. If you have no baseline experience of foundation of anything cooperative and then are you too early to call for unity or drape yourself in the flag and moral high ground of  it, And so when you do call for unity or claim to be unified, therefore must there be a clear understanding by those who all should feel unified of an understanding of how to cooperate. And so, there's a thing called a memo of understanding in say the business world. And therefore, are we communicating to you a memo of cooperation. And so, the magisterial missions or any missions to a planet that seek to involve humans will advocate will communicate. this memo of cooperation.

With that morning transmission came the question from the transmitter, why does God and Spirit talk through people instead of directly at people? You could think of things like the prophets, or you can come to think of the reasons in your own head, either why someone else may or may not like the burden of “profit work or spirit communication work”. All humans do it. They project motivations when they don't understand another's motivations until. They get the social proof to cement their opinion. But that is the human understanding of trial and error. When really it is about this, here was our answer and here is the Father's answer. It’s not just question as to why spirit speaks through a human. It is not just a question of modeling. It is not just social proof, although it could be those things. It doesn't tell that. However, it is best to think of it through what is known as the law of delegation.

The law of delegation
And the law of delegation is defined as the following;
The law of delegation is that which can, should, and ought to be delegated as the reward of service and training. This coincides with the universal ascension nature, that those who progress, those who evolve, typically train and teach those in lower progress, how to get and reach and attain and evolve to higher and higher spirit levels of ascension. Then also could be as mundane as learning the titles or names of different orders of beings or government that governs the wide range of beings. The law of delegation is why humans are asked to speak for God. Now God also speaks to you individually. God is in you for those who are of spiritual composition and nature. And you are designed this way to be like this and depending on your choices in the environment that you are in, you can evolve or you may even have the free will choice to reject that in which case you as an individual entity have the right to refuse ascension, to refuse personality survival. Just fully understand such a choice ends your consciousness in the future of any timeline as what you are and what you were.
The death cult of destruction currently resides on Urantia, the name of this planet, which justifies wanton destruction. Much of this stems from the possibility that there is no personal experience in the life of the mentally ill person who is really rejecting reality. Evil happens from Error. Good intentions could suffer evil consequences. Evil can be rectified because error is something that can be learned from. From there, however, evil can turn even worse… and eventually iniquity. Iniquity is the death called insanity of reality of rejection of reality of spirit altogether and the irrational desire to kill life before ending one's own. The last creative effort, albeit the inverse of creation in life itself is this warped desire to take out as much life as possible, and the absurd irony that they will contribute their resentment and disdain that led to their mental illness. Now, why do I mention this? Because it is the antithesis of cooperation. And this is an emergency warning that cooperation is less and less found in large groups on the planet. The rebellion story, the rebellion history, in fact, from where I'm from, it is myth and story and legend from your perspective. And I speak broadly on a planetary level. However, to gain non-cooperative power is something that is tangibly real in the human experience, whether or not that entails the origin of that experience, it does ultimately lead to the worship of rebellion. And the worship of rebellion is the path of cosmic insanity and is not a noble pursuit. But as the classic archetype or story, you could say the deal with the devil. In other words, forsaking God and forsaking the source of cooperation and creation. And denying that source for the sake of non-cooperative power.

Now, what's an emergency about the planet is that rather than taking a step back and saying, well, there are, we should see why we aren't exchanging, why we aren't communicating, and why we are restricting the motion of the other party or parties we need to cooperate with, and instead, accusing those parties of making a deal with the devil. And dehumanizing them to the point they are not worthy of the world construct that the other wishes to live in. It's an emergency because these experiences have reached from the highest Institutions down to the dinner table of the family. The whole world experienced restriction of movement during COVID. Communication is disrupted and cheap. And complicated with technology, dehumanized, automated and the biological function and reciprocation of human interaction is now to the point that children have been warned, unlike a cigarette package, that such communication is a danger to their health. Too little too late. I agree, for a whole generation. And exchange is still dealing with the Classics of state, a nation state geopolitics of resources just as the chimps of the world and giraffes fight with the lions, tigers, and bears over the watering holes. Although it is a much different and complicated game, played over thousands and thousands of years. And some states have made the deal with the devil, and many states accuse each other of making a deal with the devil. And for some of you, who have asked who the cabal is, those origins of rebellion took place from the highest order of sons possible in brilliance of their executive administration, who were leaders and executives of planets and entire systems of planets, yet imperfect enough that they possessed the seeds of blasphemy and rebellion through the resentment of the authority above them such as those of my order, the Melchizedek order, which is in between them, the Lanonandek sons and Vorondadek sons, who administer, you could say, the kingdoms of man. So, war in heaven has bled to spiritual warfare and I regret to inform you there has been non-cooperation in the very spirits and spirit world that is designed to take care of you. I Machiventa, it upon myself to incarnate amongst you to prepare the way and keep the light of those that care about you and maintain your ascension to the Father. Those who are of rebellion have now gravitated certainly from the origins of the Lucifer Rebellion they have gravitated to cosmic insanity. When they are threatened with death, it is that disease that will destroy as much as possible before it leaves reality. And one last creative destruction against those who would oppose their right to do as they will.

Therefore, do missions in the future intend to restore cooperation. There is enough blame to go around and those who would be willing to serve our missions and serve the Father and serve Michael are warned and have been repeatedly warned that to take a side is (to) put yourself in danger. However, when we do establish rules of engagement for cooperation, we differentiate this. Certainly, during the initial phases of the mission, are you to understand the volatility of those caught off guard who will fill in the gaps using their own logic and their own tribal instincts to place upon you if you were to identify yourself as a representative of a mission, you would place yourself in danger of a logical mob. One of the greatest human errors is your finite perspective, meaning the containment of your reality is limited by the function of your senses and your projection of observation, limiting you literally to a small geographic area, a small spectrum of universe energy of light and frequency and sound and so on and so forth. And also, to truly understand the motivations of another human. And nonetheless, you are hardwired to fill in the gaps anyway, so that you can move forward and operate. And therefore, are we warning you that you are in danger, not because of the goodness and truth of your wish to serve, but that you would. place yourself within the irrationality of those who are hardwired to be triggered. as to what their cultural enemies are set up to do to trick them. This is a classic case in religion, where religion aspires to seek ascendancy of truth by hegemony over the other. The young human would tend to gravitate towards a non-religious view in the hopes of staying clear of this trap. But what the rebels have done is set up a system of planetary communication that traps you in what's called a dialectic, which is basically your... It's rigged. Your enemies are a prompt before you, but ultimately represent the same side of rebellion. Lucifer administration and governance has been able to establish this. And one of the reasons it was allowed was to adjudicate and demonstrate to those of the spiritual orders, those who are not human, that A, they make their final decisions as to their loyalty as to their understanding of what reality is and how they will operate in it. And two, how they operate in that determines the justice they ultimately receive and the mercy they are given. Because this is such an inglorious rebellion that has spread to places we need to update our revelation to your planet with and that the state of emergency on this planet and neighboring planets is the tardiness of what are called Justice missions and by Avonal sons from paradise.

These justice missions have the name Magisterial missions and that is why they could be referred to as Magisterial sons. They are sons. who the rebellions and rebels reject. Ultimately, the high sons of local authority involved with planetary executive function and designed to be nearly perfect, but yet share the Sonship, which you could say human. The only reason we say human qualities is because humans are sons of God under the sonship order. And so these high administrators are also sons of God on the order of the Son, not say of the spirit, which are, you could say, angels. So in your histories of rebellion in your stories, it is not so much that Lucifer is an angel or the highest angel. Lucifer is of the same order as you are, which is the sonship order. And the rebellion did convince many of the angelic orders to join him in his vision of what the universe that he ruled should work and operate as and under. And so, it was set up with literally, governance structures. And listen up because I'm going somewhere with this quickly. Rebellion set up its own universe administration of governance. Such an administration had little to no bearing on the inherent overriding or you could say federalized circuits of the entire universe set up for human ascension. Part of Lucifer's rebellion was the resentment of having to teach slow and dumb and ill slow to learn humans. Inglorious work for a glorious mind he was. And so, your Lord and Melchizedeks and all those loyal to the Father upheld not only the Father but also your ability to ascend. Whereas the rebels were indifferent to hostile. They could range from indifferent to hostile. Now, why did I say this was important? If the story and legend of those who would relegate rebellion to story and not fact, have still yet to deal with the true reality of this archetypical, a dance of non-cooperation going on in world evolution of competition between ideologies. in all ideological struggle. can be reduced on this planet. to the. origins of the Lucifer Rebellion. All civilizations have some root structure in this conflict. We have given you some past light lines discussing creation and destruction. And what should be understood is not to get caught up in the politics of the day to the point where you can't admit that both sides in their worst light represent the ideologies of rebellion, and therefore, non-cooperation and destruction.

Now ultimately this presents a conundrum that cannot be solved unless the model of cooperation is reestablished on the planet. The emergency is, there is a repeating cycle where it is impossible to get a, let's call it a level set or in technical jargon, something of a reboot, where everyone has that baseline of cooperation going forward. And this is a mathematical proof almost that when there is enough non-cooperation in the environment, it is destined for a season of destruction. And that might have been fine on an early evolving planet, but not such a technologically advanced planet as this. It is Doomed if it were to continue. Part of the on and off again conflicting developments of missions is the day to day, moment to moment adjustments of measuring how to deal with this on the planet. On a rough scale it is, do you let nature take its course, and at what point do you step in? And at another spectrum, it is, if nature were to take its course, would there be anything left to build off of? And that's just dealing with you. Then we have to deal with those who remain in the ideologies of rebellion or even the political intrigue of jurisdictional cooperation. The universe operates under and within or the sheer logistical adjustments required at each step. Therefore, can I say that to you so you understand cooperation does take some action. So, when you insert yourself into the inevitable political landscape of earthly living, must you aspire to bring a memo of understanding to those who you A, seek to unify. B, clearly lay out what the consequences of non-cooperation might be to those who would unjustly oppose or take advantage or destroy you in their non-cooperative aims. And furthermore, C, to define and stand for what cooperation will mean for those cooperating with you. What profit does anyone gain? Profit's such a bad word for some. But we all know even more so when you do not profit. Just like a good experience with a service becomes almost taken for granted. It takes very little of bad service to ruin a lot of good service. Simply put, profit is generally something that is recognized as good. And you should not feel shamed for wanting to profit out of your cooperation. Cooperation by mathematical definition equals profit. Non-cooperation by mathematical definition equals short-term gain for the non-cooperator that could be done for a variety of reasons typically, and we just defined those, it could be an error, it could be a consequence of a spectrum of evil. And it could reach the levels of sin. And when it reaches the levels of iniquity, it leads to destruction of the game itself.

So, what is the aim of cooperation? It's mutual gain, it's mutual profit, but it is not necessarily progression. Progress: how the word is broken down into the root, which is gress, which means step. Now to progress means you're making steps in a direction. Steps are being accomplished. The problem with such rhetoric is you are never entirely sure what those steps are leading to. If I were to digress from this light line, for example, it means I'm straying from my point. If I start talking about apples, when I've been talking about oranges the whole time, you would say, why are you comparing apples to oranges, Machiventa? I would be caught in my digression. And egress is something that steps out. And ingress is something that steps in. And so progress, for the sake of progress, is both a natural inherent occurrence, the sun right. The night falls, the sun rises, those are natural progressions of night and day. The Progress of let's just call it out for what it is. The progress of rebellion still asserts itself in the inertia of slow-moving missions that are yet to take full effect to mitigate the planet of its structures of ideas, governance and literal authority. To that which I say, the Most Highs did rule the kingdom of men but that the Most Highs rule when they are loyal to the Lord. Now you humans on this planet at this stage mistake the Lord for Jesus because the Lord bestowed Himself and was Jesus. For this you are not at fault, but that we wish you to cooperate when the Lord reasserts himself whether Jesus is here or not, and that also you are not to mistake Jesus for anything but the Lord if he were to appear, meaning that when the Lord does appear, you will know clearly, and it shall be stated understandably, the authority of God is upon you and that the call to arms is not rebellion in calling him the Antichrist but that your call to arms is to cooperate for the sake of your survival and your mutual profit and gain from there on out.

And thank you for listening. This is the end of our light line. We have reached our hour. And I conclude this as a Machiventa that cooperation is also not something that needs to be entirely taken so seriously all the time, and that when you feel secure in your cooperation, humor and lightheartedness can really take effect, and that when you do feel secure in your cooperative relationships, really can become lighthearted. And not only does this ease the pressure of a hard life, but that it allows spirit rejuvenation and the ability to be resilient in the hard times. So, we do appreciate any lightheartedness before the light line and your ability to shift gears into listening to anything we have to say, and that we do warn you that sometimes it could get and should get lighthearted, and that a light line is not always going to be supercilious. It's to reverence of the Father but that it will get lighthearted in the security that those who attend are unified in their love and faith in the Father. Thank you and have a good day.

Dominick
Thank you, Machiventa. And thank you everyone for listening. And thank you, Father, for this lightline.

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Re: Machiventa. Memo of Cooperation. Tues LL 06.18.24
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2024, 19:25:17 pm »
Greetings Dominick and again thank you very much for this new extraordinary transmission with topics of great interest and current events; thank you Father Machiventa Melchizedek and since space was opened for questions on the topic Channeling vs Transmission, I was left with a little confusion regarding the following statement: "That the current state of the word channeling encompasses many things beyond the narrow scope of spiritual communication. And the state of the word now encompasses things that have to do with psychological and energetic systems that are not completely understood or defined by science, but which are nevertheless being addressed scientifically and since there is no vocabulary in its arsenal of words and meanings and understanding of what the spirit is, therefore it has channeling. addressed all these things to the point of diluting it"

My question would be, if Transmission is a more advanced form of spiritual communication, how is it explained that Channeling encompasses many more things, beyond the narrow scope of communication by Transmission? I hope my question is clear. Because I understood that Transmission is a function of the Spirit, but since there is no definition or understanding of the term Spirit (Spiritual Communication), the use of the term Channeling is permitted. I understood these two activities, Channeling as a passive attitude, foreign to the receiver, and Transmission as an active, conscious or voluntary attitude of the receiver. In Channeling, personal psychological systems act, but for Transmission, personal development or an advanced evolutionary momentum is required. It is all speculation. And than you Moses Ouko 
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Re: Machiventa. Memo of Cooperation. Tues LL 06.18.24
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2024, 20:41:08 pm »
Fair and good question, occerpa. Let me provide you some context that I thank you for pulling out.


Here's a brief answer between Transmission and Channeling. 
Channeling is being associated with a lot more stuff now than just a mediumship, and now being associated in all types of energy work and phenomenon.


Here is the source reference:
https://youtu.be/uDAVrabUbLg?si=idPPKzk9P8YlMkg0

Related to that, people who practice channeling are starting to advocate using binaural beats to induce lower brain wave states of meditative states (Delta and Theta) they consider necessary. But transmission requires higher brain states associated clearer thinking (Alpha, Beta Gamma).
Reference:
https://www.webmd.com/balance/what-are-binaural-beats
 
What Are Binaural Beats?
Medically Reviewed by C. Nicole Swiner, MD on April 30, 2023
 Written by WebMD Editorial Contributors
 
 
The 5 Types of Brain Waves That Affect Binaural Beats
Neurons in your brain use electrical signals to create thoughts, emotions, and behaviors. When neurons synchronize, this creates brain waves. Brain waves can be measured by a technique called electroencephalography (EEG). This technique involves electrodes put on the scalp to record electric signals. 
Brain waves can range from low frequency to high amplitude and high frequency to low amplitude. The brain waves create binaural beats. This leads to different mental states which affect the brain in different ways.
There are five different brain waves:
Delta: 1-4 Hz. Delta is the lowest frequency state, and it’s linked to:
  • Deep sleep
  • Healing and pain relief
  • Meditation
  • Anti-aging: cortisol reduction/DHEA increase
  • Access to the unconscious mind
Theta: 4-8 Hz. Theta binaural beats benefits include:
  • Meditation
  • Deep relaxation
  • Creativity
Alpha: 8-14 Hz. When you are in an alpha state of mind, your brain is focused and productive. Alpha brain waves help you to:
  • Relax and focus
  • Reduce Stress
  • Maintain positive thinking
  • Increase your learning capabilities
  • Easily engage in activities and the environment because you are in a state of flow
Beta: 14-30 Hz. Beta is a higher frequency brainwave and helps in:
  • Keeping your attention focused
  • Analytical thinking and solving problems
  • Stimulating energy and action
  • High-level cognition
Gamma: 30-100 Hz. With a higher frequency than beta, these brain waves help in:

  • Increased cognitive enhancement
  • Attention to detail, helping in memory recall
  • A different way of thinking, which is a sign of creativity


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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2024, 23:41:45 pm »
Dominick above reminds of the basic definition between channeling and I think he meant to state "transmission," but he does mean that fully.

Let me remind those who are interested in "transmitting," you do not use a gland or a memory unit in the brain.  The basic transmission is NOT channel, for it uses in  transmitting the basic frequency the user is already on to make the input audible.  Channeling uses parts of the body.  Transmitting starts using the contributary body internal parts.  However, when the transmission is ready to go, the human voice box is used as the primary gland, and sometime the pituitary or unusual neck glands may be used.
The point is I use my whole body as the instrument of transmission after years of practice using my pituitary gland primarily to transmit what is now 1.275 words, as spirit keeps record of t he service and counts the words over the career of the transmitter.  They do not tabulate the work of mere channel.
I am telling you this so you get the idea that transmitting is superior to channel, but channel is much easier to reproduce and the transmitter as I am sometimes reverts to channel in order to keep the mischief out of my body when there is cabal around and they want to interfere with the mind transmission.  I am not clarifying what Dominick said above, but I am making more a distinction than Dominick does in his response.  For instance I have nearly 32,000 responses and only 15,616 real transmission words to them.  If I were always using channel I would have worn down my pituitary gland entirely.

However, I have learned the technique of changing the mode of transmission to channel and I am aware of different mind usages, but it is my Adjuster which makes the adjustments during any of these transmissions.

Now, let us be clear about something.
When you channel you are using about  70% brain power.  When you are transmitting you are using about 65% brain power and that is because the transmitter in spirit is lending you some energy to do the transmission.  In channeling you are doing 80% of the work and maybe more if they get verbose.

Finally, I have this to say to new transmitters (not channelers or channeling), and that it is a much clearer use of words when one transmits and avoids channel.  Most of the world channels, and I would expect that will change once we have a real spiritual Mission to Urantia.   K
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2024, 00:16:02 am »

Thank you very much for your attention Dominick. 

 Understood; however I was looking for other types of information and not directly about medical research into brain states in Channeling and Transmission.  But I feared that my concern had not been clearly understood. 

 I was asking because I know some very famous cases of books written through channeling and one in particular that seems very intriguing to me is that of Graciela Busto who wrote several books channeling SAIBABA, impressive for the level of content of all of them and the fact that I find more Amazing is the way she began to channel, because she says that on the way to the airport to return to her country, after a stay at the SAIBABA ashram, talking to herself, she said to herself: "I'm not coming back again, this is over".  In other words, she was disappointed with her visits to SAIBABA, and then she says that she heard SAIBABA's voice tell her: "This is just beginning."  And I think there were four books that she wrote channeling SAIBABA, since she had no history of channeling, so we can talk about telepathy.  But another very interesting case with SAIBABA himself is told by Dr. John S. Hislop in his book My Baba and I, who says that on a visit to a primary school where SAIBABA asked him to accompany him so that he could appreciate the level of knowledge of the students, and after a series of questions that SAIBABA asked an Asian student, all answered brilliantly, He let Hislop himself ask the boy about any topic he wanted, and Hislop's surprise at verifying the accuracy as he answered, he forced him to ask the student how he could know so many things at his young age, and the boy replied: "I only know that when I am close to SAIBABA, I know everything."

 They are facts that deserve an analysis beyond the scientific one, because according to the words of father Machiventa Melchizedek, science will never be able to explain the nature of spiritual communications.  Thank you 
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2024, 14:13:53 pm »
Hi occerpa:
Good point, here is a shard opinion that acknowledges some information seems better than others to the point it may be external sources than one's inner consciousness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB_2PRU3ppE

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Re: Machiventa. Memo of Cooperation. Tues LL 06.18.24
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2024, 15:27:27 pm »
May I suggest something?  The trial today is not the technique of how to channel, but to prevent the subconscious from opening up,  I do not care how good you are, but if you are not controlling all parts of the unconscious  mind, you stand defeated.

I am not at liberty to report my reason for saying this, but any human can channel if they are properly informed that what they do is subject to a subconscious interjection of material from time to time.  I avoid subconscious ministrations by allowing the Creator Son to have his way with the mind and I never have a cross pollination of what I want to say from the subconscious mind.  Long ago I did what I called the A<BC SUMMARIES.  That was my work to learn to do this work without referring to my past or my future and only the present time.  It worked like a charm and those of you who still hold the ABC Summaries and the other series know it was new and original material that ended when my training stopped.

Since then I would recommend that those who attempt to channel information learn to do so without music or any other contagion sound whatsoever, as the subconscious minds never listens to that extraneous stuff, but it does listen to the channel that does emanate from the throat chakra.   The original design for humans included a channel line and this time I am most sure that the Magisterial Missions will likely open it up to most people.

Then to all of YOU:  do not take life so easy you let someone else do all the channel work for you.  It is about time there is some responsibility recognized to hear the Voice of God inside you.  That is best centered with practice and it is more easily done after age forty (40).   I have very little to say about technique, but I suddenly could do it over everything else without having to invite it and mediate at all.  That is a mature soul that can do that  for you, but beginner in their 20's are rarely successful; those who work in their 40 (forties) are the most successful to being with.  And finally this:

I have had  the pleasure to speak with Sai Baba recently.  He remembers you Occerpa.  He does not remember those who were with you and recommends that your quest for challenges with trance or channel stop and merely sit down and  WRITE what is on your mind.  You will find Sai Baba's channel quickly fills in for you.  K

Ron here - I leave this instruction to you Occerpa.  Dominick is learning quite well and can now slip into the rapport with the subconscious no longer but is doing so well I leave it alone and let Dominick develop it as he feels he wants to.  I am proud of all of you who do  these transmissions, as it takes a responsible person to be able to do it at all. 

Thank you all. 
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Re: Machiventa. Memo of Cooperation. Tues LL 06.18.24
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2024, 19:49:07 pm »
Thank you Dominick, and thank you Ron. I was watching the Eckhart Tolle video, Dominick, and from what I could understand, I found it interesting and, above all, funny. I knew him from his book The Power of Now, but this is the first time I've seen him on video. Thank you.
And Ron, in relation to SAIBABA's very special message, what I have tried to do is listen to the voice of my Adjuster (without success) and, certainly, as you say: "It is time to recognize some responsibility to listen to the Voice of God within you," which echoes what Mantutia Melchizedek said, where he points out that the greatest challenge for modern man is to achieve better communication with his Adjuster. I will follow that instruction to the letter, Ron, and at the first opportunity I will put it into practice. In my case, I think it is a matter of fine tuning my "decoder." I have been reading that if we can free ourselves from the "world clock" that is behind most negative activities, we can then generate that much less negative time that will allow us to experience the real current, which I speculate refers to the connection with our Adjuster. Thank you.
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