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Pleiadeans and Meanings and Values
« on: April 25, 2024, 12:27:40 pm »
Diary 04-24-2024


Good morning All! Good morning Father, Good morning Pleiadeans!


I have been having trouble getting my thoughts and actions together this morning. Please help me at this moment, Pleiadeans.


Yesterday Dominick mentioned "meanings and values".


How would you define "Meanings and Values"? How would we make these a tool in our lives?


What is good? What isn't? Why?


Would activity, experience, and desires be accounted for in "Meanings"?
Is the resulting growth accounted for as spiritual growth? Could falsity, ugliness and evil be misconstrued as "good"?


Is meaning important? People say, "It is what you make of it".


Using the Bible or God's word, or revelation, we conjure "meanings" of events, thoughts expressed, experiences, and everything that happens, cause and effect, etc. Results, growth or death, these all fall into the consideration of "Meanings". But we still find great disparity between thoughtful people concerning the "Meaning" of an event or happening. Where one person might find an experience horrible, another might try to look on the lighter side. Does the event have different meanings to different people? Many comments in the Bible take on different "meanings" when the same event is recounted in the Urantia Book.


Where do "Values" come in? We hear all the time of the value of a product or service. Sometimes we admonished to seek "True Values". What is a value?


Because of the limited English of some of our readers, I believe there should be a clear definition that is easy to translate.


Meaning: what each individual person attributes significance to. Why it is important. Why it is memorable and worth remembering. What makes this fit into the much bigger view of the universe.


Values: The value is the level of importance, the overall outcome of such an event or action. The applicability of this event or action to future events or action builds the value, first personally and then collectively. The event or action in reference to and in comparison to a perfect model becomes the foundation for a future value.


Since "meanings and values" is such a broad abstract term, I believe it would not be a good thing to assume everyone understands the ramifications.




Dear Pleiadeans, how would you define "Meanings and Values"?


Pleiadeans: We are here to observe YOU. That is, all the humanity on this planet.
You are the ones placing meanings on yourselves, others, events, and revelation. When things are meaningful to YOU, then it is in a position to alter your behavior. One of the reasons we are here is to point you in the direction of meaningful events, people, and experiences. We can't make you do it. We can't outwardly suggest it. Your awareness must come from within. That is why it is so important to keep in touch with your Thought Adjuster.


Values are ideals and hopes for goodness. Meanings are contributing to values accordingly. You choose the values you support and seek. Values are held in your spirit and in your mind as the compass to guide your experiences that have meaning. Consistently choosing good experiences and events that have meaning to you in accordance with your good values help to build your soul, and contribute to your spiritual growth..


As suggested in the Light Line, every one of you listeners and readers could contribute to this forum by sharing your understanding and vision concerning "Meanings" and "Values". A question of "Why?" often leads to a discussion VALUABLE (;-) to everyone!


Blessings to all of you.




Carole: Thank you Pleiadeans!


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Re: Pleiadeans and Meanings and Values
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2024, 19:10:26 pm »
Too much material to read the last few days; In my case I confess that I lack not directly time but, first of all, the ability to understand many things, assimilate and then be able to integrate it into daily practice. However, it is not that I protest this situation but quite the opposite, I try to understand that if things happen this way, it will always be with a specific purpose and benefit for everyone. In this regard, it caught my attention that recently, Ron confessed that most of what was said in the forum lacked truth, that is, that they were fallacies. This statement is very interesting since we all hope and trust that it is the opposite, that everything we find is reliable truth. What reading can we give to this? I think that it is attempted in this way, that we exercise our intuition or communication with our Thought Adjuster, or read between the lines as has also been mentioned. It would be interesting to hear other opinions. But in particular I wanted to refer to this topic that Songatsunrise of Values and Meanings brought up. Regarding values, I believe that we should all know to work on them, the five human values: Truth, Righteousness, Love, Peace and Non-Violence, which according to the teachings of SAIBABA are those that characterize a true human being. Lyricus teachers (WingMakers) also teach the practice of the six virtues of the energetic heart: Gratitude (appreciation), Compassion, Humility, Forgiveness, Comprehension and Courage. That was all, thank you very much.
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Re: Pleiadeans and Meanings and Values
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2024, 17:44:31 pm »
Please be careful folks.  These last few days are not normal and worse yet, I never said or intimated what Occerpa said in his post above.  That said may I suggest we attempt to follow the truth even more carefully and let the Mission as it may appear happen.  I am finding it too much to follow it, and I am beginning to suspect Michael of Nebadon is not feeling good because of the transition to Mission status.   As difficult at it may be, let things rest for now and do not worry things right now, as we are in a spiritual transition, and nothing makes real sense.  Peace and charity to all of you!
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MICHAEL OF NEBADON - "Ron is feeling poorly today, and worse yet people are at his door to mow the grass and he could care less and t hey think he quit them"  NO.  But Dominick will call and straighten it out and this:

"Ron is correct about today and is very sleepy due to transition material piling up for him to take care of.  He also is making a hard test to see to the mansion world demand that he appear there and he has no means  to appear there at all, and I am not helping either.  The mansion worlds did make contact with him early this morning but there is nothing to say there until I, MICHAEL OF NEBADON, am ready to let those contacts swirl back and forth and not bother Ron lately.  Finally this:

"I have asked Ron to hold a Board meeting on May 17ath.  That is far too early for Me and my staff to appear too, as the FATHER  has decreed that nothing be done on Urantia until we are sure we have the cabal, the insurrectionists out of the way.  RAZ you tried  to contact Ron today but he was not here and we will get back to you if necessary shortly.  And finally this:

"The background which Ron h as been trying to work is to fold a certain amount of activity into the strange quiet we have now.  I am fully aware of what he asked you Elise and what he wants for the USA, but that is far too ambitious to do right now without any sense of costs accumulating for anyone at the moment.  Elise, get the costs of operations in the Netherlands but that is all that is required.  No need to do anything else right now and that is all he asked as I now see it.  

"And lastly, we expect NO LIGHTLINE ON SUNDAY THE 2UTH OF APRIL.  Ron has been shut down and NO LIGHTLINE FOR THIS SUNDAY please.  There is entirely too much activity without the need of a Lightline right now for 28 April.  Thank you very much.  K"

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Re: Pleiadeans and Meanings and Values
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2024, 18:44:36 pm »
My apologies Ron, that is why I also stated that I had problems understanding certain material and, furthermore, it is not at all strange, because it has also happened to me, that when translating into Spanish the meaning of the text has been reversed. However, I ask you Ron to accept that I choose to stay with that version with the reverse meaning because that frequently challenges me. Of course I believe you Ron, but I'll look to review that passage, I don't remember where I read it. Thank you very much for the clarification.
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