Tues LL 04.23.24 Michael Speech. Arthura Presentation

[Dominick O]

Recording Links:
https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240423_110224


https://www.fatherslightline.com/recorded/tues-ll-04-23-24-machiventa-michael-arthura

• Machiventa opened & closed w/prayer and some insight comparing groups he worked with in the past compared to today.
• MICHAEL of Nebadon gave speech about brotherhood in modern times and ahead
• Arthura presented and re-presented on State and Governance. And a lot of topics pertaining to modern times and current events. 

Another theme of the Lightline was the cooperation between Spirit/human, and human/human, and divine/human.

[SonsofGod]

1. 042324 Audio Tape Tuesday Light Line USA; host: Dominick O.
2. Subjects:
· Machiventa opened & closed w/prayer and some insight comparing groups he worked with in the past compared to today.
· MICHAEL of Nebadon gave speech about brotherhood in modern times and ahead
· Arthura presented and re-presented on State and Governance. And a lot of topics pertaining to modern times and current events.
· Cooperation between Spirit/human, human/human, and divine/human.
4. Speakers: Michael of Nebadon, Arthura, Machiventa Melchizedek
5. Transcribed by: sonsofGod
Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC01_251848_20240423_110224


Dominick
All right, it's Tuesday Lightline, welcome, April 23. We start with a quick prayer and of course, we pray to Father, we pray with Michael, and as humans’ will we pray that our planet can do better, our lives can do better, that we can help each other, and that we can not only discern but go with the ups and downs of life and certainly understanding spirit, and everything you have to give to us and say to us. And the obvious that we wish to know the truth behind this type of communication, that we are happy and privileged to provide with you and accept called transmission, as we work out the truth and the way forward about what's happened and where we're going. Amen.
Is there anyone who wishes to speak on this Lightline today? We welcome you.

Machiventa Melchizedek
This is Machiventa. I'm here with Michael of Nebadon and Arthura. They will speak, they will have their turn. I greet the group first, and I wish you all a good day. Here's Michael.

Michael of Nebadon
Good day everyone on Urantia, on this Lightline, and my universe. What is good for one planet is good for all. But when it comes to Missions, those are designed for specific planets or a group of planets. Just as what is good for all individuals such as the Father indwelling you, does not mean there is a specific prescription of your life that is the same for everyone. However, there is a commonality, the shared growth and opportunity that soul enrichment provides. The material life offers a lot of struggles to grow this. The plants and the trees all blow in the wind. Their limbs break, their stock band, but your roots are what keep you in place. And I would like to add that faith is much like the root of your soul. And that sometimes your roots, and this is the most difficult thing for humans too, your roots must be uplifted, and like the journey of the tumbleweed or the organism blowing in the wind, and going downstream to take up roots elsewhere, such as the journey of the soul. And your faith is bolstered by the personal relationship with me, in the way to the Father. We work as one, and we work in multiple ways. There are multiplicity of personalities throughout the universe. And so must you struggle to work amongst yourselves. I want it to be known, there is a increase in the desire to see Missions. And I caution you and I implore you, you must work amongst yourselves, regardless of how these Missions take place. It is not the time to wish for the strong man and the strong arm. That really gets you nowhere. And as Jesus cautioned, those who would pick up the sword to put them down, so must I caution you that you must renew your vows to your fellow men, that you are left with each other. And that too much wishful thinking in the intervention of spirit can be no different than the wish for an authoritarian leader on your planet to order the disorderly, the chaotic destruction of the structures of civilization and society around you. You have the tools within you, and you must allow me to organize you with my spirit in might. As you organize in the coming days include me and the Father with you always, and you will do just fine.

This command, are you your brother's keeper that you simply desire and wish to be in our spirit and have us with you. That is how you keep your brother and your sister that you bring us in. You don't beat them over the head with the fact of our existence, but that you strive for the best in each other and meeting them where they are, and not where they ought to be. And that you are there to serve them in the opportunity of the kingdom and salvation. That is the purpose of your life in the ascension, spiritual ascension that I ministered to and I rule, that I created and did this for the Father, so that I could express our Father in this area of the universe, and that your way to the Father is through me. But I designed this, so that you would do this amongst yourselves not entirely, but that there is a symbiosis of what occurs and evolved between the divine amongst you, and the imperfect humans you are, and the Father's decree to know him and be like him in perfection.

If you have no planet, none of this will be able to happen. And so, we strike the balance constantly these days, and rectifying a spiritual warfare rebellion of long ago that affects us all today, especially here on Urantia. As war mounts and fulfills the prophecy of preparation that you all do, we on Salvington, the headquarters of my rule and central government of this universe I have just described, are waiting and wondering what to do. Or rather that all the progress you feel you have made over the last say 40, almost 40 years now, since the adjudication in the courts of Gabriel versus Lucifer, all that progress gets a reality check when war appears.

When war appears all the injuries of the past become the present, and that all the progress you feel you have made evaporates with the excuse of national injury, that places you back into the peak of rebellion here on this planet, which is the 20th century. I cannot be the strong man without a showing on this planet that there is a strong enough base of souls, who can affect the change we need to establish a Mission. For further effect I cease this speech and may continue again, but that is the news I wish to bring to this Lightline in my universe today. And I put you back in the hands of Arthura.

Dominick
Thank you, Michael. Arthura!

Arthura
Thank you, Michael. I am Arthura, and thank you, Machiventa. I'm here as Arthura at the behest of Michael of Nebadon. I have given many discourses over the last year on such matters as Michael just discussed, and I'm going to do the same today.

We discussed the lesson of the past, I'll say a month ago, of what is needed today to evolve as Michael said, into the 21st and 22nd centuries. To have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is something that evolved during the period of the Lucifer rebellion, and life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is an evolution from the foundations of life, liberty, and the pursuit of property on the quasi democratic call of equality, equity and fraternity. And we ask, where are you going with social justice, diversity, equity and inclusion, and their reactionary forces such as those of what you would call the right and the left, in the middle, and so on, because these are nothing new per se.

250,000 years ago, you had such a manifesto of unbridled liberty. We are trying from our side when we discuss things like Salvington to bring this all back home, in a way this is what we are trying to correct. So, when we look at these things like I just mentioned, like a hot button, say social justice, this is a hot button in one of the countries that seems like an obvious candidate to host a Mission and be capable of spreading the goodness of such a Mission to other places on the planet. Also capable of prospering and benefiting with the eventual evolution that the entire planet enjoys the fruits of a Mission.

Well, I presented that the next evolution is life, opportunity, and the pursuit of soul growth. These of course have the core values of life, they do include some sense of equality and equity, and our three ethics that include and do not exclude, and in fact are tacit supporters of course of diversity. Life is full of diversity, equity is really a call for opportunity, and it is very dangerous to be weaponized in the apparatus of the state, instead of the principles of governing documents and philosophies.

The pursuit of soul growth is inclusive for everyone. This pursuit of soul growth is the fact that all men are created equal. You are not created equal in inherent divinity and immortality as Lucifer manifesto acclaimed, rather you are all equally created in your pursuit of soul growth. At that point there is complete inequality, in that there is diversity of how that soul growth progresses in each of you. It starts with the diversity and not the equality of your birth circumstances. So understand, there is a discordant logic to diversity, equity, and inclusion, and the fruits of that logic rooted in a philosophy that is not evil, but it demands that there are frameworks of oppressors. And that these oppressors are upholders of oppressive systems and that those systems must be destroyed. And so this type of approach to governance is something of an anathema does not foster growth in the first place, rather a chaos.

Let's go back to governance, because governance is state and law. When the state first appeared it was a city state, that evolved to nation states. And nations don't necessarily have states. Nations have a conglomeration of tribal identities unified as a nation. And now we have something to call multinational states. And so, the state with its laws is asked to govern through the courts, the legislator and the executive, the laws of individuals, families, and now corporations, multinational corporations. And the tyranny of the state personified of the political science or the Leviathan versus the philosophy of the social contract, is now literally wrapped up in the multinational corporations. Literally your social contract is evermore entwined with the public private sector governance of social contract, and what this does is create an emphasis on the last bastion of governance for the individual with a soul, and that is the courts. The courts in the United States still work better than almost any other place in the world, but none of it is perfect. There is plenty of blame to go around in history and current affairs, but when it comes to the law and the use of corruption versus say justice, justice is still possible at the state and local level in the United States, but the federal level it's a crapshoot.

Dominick
This is Dominick. I'm listening to reconnect there's no …
Loss of the connection for those listening. Atrhura, do you wish to continue?

Arthura
Yes, look at what is from the board and let me connect better on the transmission.

Other subjects that are related to this, we discussed the individual, the family, and the multinational corporation, and tied between these are things such as gender and race relations, certainly. These things are divisive issues in the world often. It has gotten to the point where even those who disagree on the same side, those who could be unified have disagreements that allow, or disallow rather, in form of noncooperation. This is a recipe for devolution, backwards progress. There should be a baseline agreement that you wish to cooperate at all, and then go from there. Your Congress in the United States needs this, for example. There needs to be a constitutional convention reiterating that parties and factions are in government and agree that they cooperate for the good of the nation and the state.

What Michael said was, do not look for Salvington to do this for you. How are you going to insert yourself in the call that the fifth epochal revelation provided to go forth and espouse new meanings and values? How much value is that if you repurpose the revelation with new pronounce, versus say, what guidance I am trying to give you? Not this transmitter. The transmitter has the vocabulary, the mental experience to provide the words to you in sentences, but I, Arthura, on behalf of Michael am asking you what are you going to do to cooperate and organize to aid discuss amongst yourselves and formulate questions that provide life and progress to this guidance, we are giving you of life, opportunity, and pursuit of soul growth? Why should that take a backseat to identity politics?

Why should you get wrapped up in that identity politics and conveniently dismiss transmission and Lightline, and the supplemental governance and guidance that you wish would be part of revelation, and the church, and personal ministry. We don't dissuade you from that desire, but you must do better to organize amongst yourselves to be willing to go forth in the world with these new values and meanings. And at that point does Michael wish you to be your brother's keeper, so that there are none of these pitfalls that will constantly pull at you because the road is difficult. But the road is difficult no matter which road you choose as you see, and all the choices before you.

To bring it back, we have the example of your forefathers and mothers, your brothers and sisters, that you cannot be simply passively waiting for the divine sort of deity to make you all behave. You have to do that heavy lifting yourself sometimes that you can start by giving life to these ideas that come forth. This is not a form of entertainment anymore. Never was, never will be, but that you should have your hearts and minds stirred to the point that you take action. Now, that can be very simple in that you strive to know better. Not just that, but if you hear a transmission ask, not challenge the transmitter, but ask the question, how am I to bring this to life, you say Arthura, and I will use transmission to answer that. And like prayer, that question does get routed and networked to the appropriate places that they can be addressed, and fallow through in that the divine administrations and administrators can begin to work with you. So, this is not answering your heart's desires to be part of a Mission, we know that. But now you must strive to make each other better to air your differences better. That's all we have to say about that for now.

And lastly, as part of that, shift your attitudes that if you've listened for so long you either begin to follow what I have just prescribed and what Michael was prescribing, or you could go into the realms of meanings and values amongst your fellow men and seek the will and business of the Father without being in the Missions. It's okay. Understand though, that the Missions so to speak are here also to cooperate with you, if you do that. There is no either or, in or out, you are fluid to go in and out in the manner of cooperation that nothing associated with the Missions per se, in the form of these corporate foundations set up to serve them. Nothing is subsumed by their enjoyment in cooperating with them. We are here to offer whatever we can that we deem fruitful for you and as for us to share, and we hope that you have that same spirit likewise.

If you think we are crazy and mentally ill, it's okay to think that, but you should be willing to share your assessment and have that assessment be disagreed with, and possibly put aside, if you think there's some good to be done in the cooperation. At this point, in the world situation, if you wish to go into the mental maze and pitfalls of conspiracy, and whether or not this and that is the devil, and so on, then you need to … yes, take a timeout and not involve yourself, and possibly come back later when you have a breath of fresh air. There is probably more I could add, but I'm getting used to humans and I think I will stop there. This is Arthura. I thank you all I am here not forever in Nebadon. So I bid you a good day and ask you at the very least to begin to formulate questions of organization, meaning and values, and how you can offer that towards your fellow men and to the Father's business. Thank you.

Dominick
Thank you, Arthura. Back to you Machiventa?

Machiventa Melchizedek
Yes, you got me. I am here as Machiventa. We have the board to look at as we do in these Lightlines. The rollcall for this Lightline is 17, which includes the transmitter. And that’s 17 on the line, and usually includes more people in ones or twos here and there. So, it's a good number today. For those listening in the future of the recording, you too are quite welcome. Your questions can be formulated in the future at any time. And you're welcome to join in the few channels of communication at serara.forum.org, and you can hear these transcripts and audio recordings at Fatherslightline.com. That is the mundane business of facilitating your questions.

Michael sends his bidding but has no more to say today unless it's through any other transmitter. This is Machiventa. To the group, you have 10 minutes left. This would be an excellent time if you had a question, we will address it. You might even consider sharing any reaction that you had. This is often a form of a question unformulated and could help develop one. As Machiventa, I've served on the planet, I've organized people. I've sent them on exactly the kind of Missions that have just been alluded to by Arthura.

I find it hard to believe that no one has a comment. And this is because back in the stone age that I worked in, there was no group fear amongst my missionaries in training. Once they were gathered, they felt safe in the gathering, unified under my guidance. When Arthura spoke to with the fears and tribulations of the mind as they wrestle with the validity of Revelation, the validity of transmission, and the confusion amongst spirit contactable amidst the era of rebellion and the danger that it still poses today even in its outer workings. There is this conditioning of ghost fear no more, but rather the state of affairs has created a fear, not to mention the fact that those of you who have participated up till now have made many errors, and many people have suffered the consequences of each other's decisions and behaviors and outcomes, from all of us. There is no lack of candidates that have muddled the clarity of where we are going on spirit with this, and therefore it is open to all sorts of attitudes and certitudes by those in authority of the organization around spirits. And that could be anywhere from teachers to churches, to really the institutions of surrounding those churches, those religions.

So, I end this Lightline as Machiventa, and we pray to the Father that we find your will in everything we do, but that we pray that we are given to even looking before we act. And that it is not an afterthought, or an after effect, that we get in the habit of seeking your guidance within before we act without. And that we forgive those trespasses and pray that such trespasses don't leave a lingering effect in ourselves to be deposited in the soul, only to be harvested in the future of anticipated trespasses. Father, dissolve those real and perceived trespasses of our brothers and sisters, and renew us that we may work the Father's business and experience the love that we know truly exists, but it's so often hidden here on this planet we live and work on. Thank you. Amen.

Dominick
Okay, that ends this Lightline. Thank you, Machiventa. Thank you, Michael of Nebadon. Thank you, Arthura.

End

[occerpa]

I have been reading with great attention this explanation by Arthura about the growth of the soul and I believe that it is such an important subject that it deserves to be a topic that should be taught with greater rigor and with more emphasis, because I think that if all of us who seek to grow spiritually could If we have this teaching very clear, our ascension would be more secure.  Another masterful teaching, like the ones that Arthura has accustomed us to, where we can read between the lines, that until Lucifer's Rebellion, forms a crucial part of this Divine Game: "Man always tends to make the least effort and if it is not presented to him inevitable challenges, it stays where it is" (SAIBABA) . Thanks

[Ron Besser]

Occerpa, do you think the soul would be better served if one had the memory at birth there is a soul that needs educated?  Let me hear your statements about that please?

RON

[occerpa]

Greetings Ron: to your interesting question about something that I had never thought of, my answer is that of course yes, which I understand would make the universal race, as they say, a piece of cake for everyone, but, ...it would also be the end of the Game, there would be no more challenge that I believe is the origin of all this great Creation, the Father would have no more "fun" to do.  That's my answer, but I don't suppose it's the absolute one.  Thanks Ronó