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Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
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          Bulletin 9
GENERAL STATEMENT (from)
DIRECTOR OF THE MAGISTERIAL FOUNDATION
December 12, 2019

 

Ronald Besser, Director
The Magisterial Foundation

 

THE WORK OF GOD THE SUPREME
A Therapy Session to Evaluate Its Role
 
 
Origins of Urantia By the Supreme
What inspired this document to be written is our member who calls herself Amethyst. She and most others on this site– and I dare say most readers of a revelatory text we all know here– do not grasp very well what God the Supreme is or does, and why it works mostly as a truancy now on the planet most call earth, but God calls it Urantia.
 
In fact the very name of earth is called Urantia, and that name is derived because God the Supreme named it. Michael of Nebadon, that being the name of our founding Deity of our local time-space area, did not name it. A giant galaxy brought it into existence, but naming it was the right of God the Supreme to do so. The Deity of God the Supreme rules individual planets, and there are billions and billions of them in the time space universes. Time with and including the controlling central universe together is called the Grand Universe. Future areas are to be added without time in them, and all of it together, is called the Master Universe. God the Supreme rules only that which is time conditioned, and no more.
 
God the Supreme, as soon as the decision was made to accept this ball of rock and gasses, designed a divine entity to send to Urantia, and that was to see to the new planet the means to introduce to it the fishes and the animals before man appeared. God the Supreme decided to call this planet URANTIA, after the name he gave the Deity entity to us many of you call GAIA, not knowing who She really is.
 
 
URANTIA is a universe language word that means: “that which abounds in the favor of God,” God the Supreme provided some experiments too, and gave URANTIA a lot of extra species to learn how some unusual design work stands up in the battering work of survival of the fittest, a true Darwinian understanding he brilliant described in the 1850's to his colleagues who, unfortunately, were creationists, with no understanding of how the progression from small to complex organisms results in the evolution of complex forms like man himself,
 
 
He named Her URANTIA, and many call Her Gaia these days and that was about one billion years ago to start her work.. This new entity entered into one sea with one continent by then and directed the Life Carriers where to plant the life plasm the Deities decided to should be started here.
 
We now examine the effects of the Gaia/Urantia divinity and Deity, as that work constitutes the foundation upon which all life is built, biologically only, for what this planet looks like today, as the character of man is profoundly associated with the Deity which originates the creation of a particular species on one particular planets, and the reader should understand that is why man is so associated with God the Supreme on Urantia, but plans like this have hit a snag, so profound, even Gaia/Urantia has no real understanding what is to happened with her or to her as the result of the crash of the Deity of God the Supreme ran into lately.
 
 
 
ORIGINS OF LIFE WITH THE SUPREME IN MIND
 
 
It takes major revelation to discuss this part. I have requested permission to relate dome of the truth concerning life implantation of life for the sake of human understanding who and how some of life implantation is made possible. The reader must understand I am highly limited and speak only to our own planetary origins of human life, you and me, on Urantia with the help of the Divine Local Universe Sons, in all probability true sub-absolute Deity of Supremacy entirely. I have asked permission of the Deity Absolute, another Deity in Infinity and probably the most powerful Deity, aside from the Universal Father, that exists to promote the expansion of the Grand Universe into the magnificent intended Master Universe itself, to help guide me into the rational part of this story for all to read and be comforted by, as it is a beautiful story.
 
Paradise itself is the origin of life. What life is REMAINS a huge secret hidden in the unfathomable heart of the Creator. HE lives as Father, but He also lives as a magnificent Co-Creator with the CONSUMMATOR OF UNIVERSE DESTINY, there being twelve such Destiny Creators and Designers.
 
Each Consummator of Universe Destiny, and there are twelve revealed here, each one creates and provides Commissioners to aide the Consummator. The Universe Father is the Consummator of Universe Destiny Number Six, and four other Consummators of Universe Destiny reign with him outside of INFINITY. I discuss this Infinity relationship aspect later for our readers here.
 
The universal plans for life animation is a great secret. We are asked by this writer if he may speak to one aspect of life as electro magnetic. We dare not allow him his head on this because he is fully able to detail some of it; however, suffice it to say that man knows something about electro magnetism, but never enough, ever, to be become too dangers using it. Electro magnetism (I use it as two words but it is usually spelled as one word), is used by God the Father only, and it is layed to rest only in the Eternal Son, as a viable conduct toward producing life animation in part only.
 
Notice that procreation is the transfer by God the Supreme for animals to produce off spring without having to produce divinity. Animal begets animal and so on, and only God produces life that is divine (that means perfect and knowing it). God the Supreme is a special favor given to the majority of Local Universes in order to provide life procreation at the level of God knowing animals. Humans are animals and live their entire lives on a material planet in order to know God well enough to transfer their ability to climb to the glory of perfection through something called an ascension career. All ascension careers, regardless of the planet one takes origins upon, are uniform, and it is God the Supreme which makes that possible both as a common aspect to enjoy, and to do with the mutuality of being with others with you at the same time to achieve that progress to know God fuller.
 
 
LIFE DESIGNS ARE PERMEATED WITH THE
SPIRIT OF THE SUPREME
 
Amethyst, and others. I do not have any difficulty with what you have to say Amethyst, but perhaps it would help you to understand something readers of the Urantia Book keep missing and missing and missing. It is so bad I wonder if they are capable to understand that God the Supreme is a biological entity! What do I mean by that? God the Supreme permeates biology by being present in our cell protoplasm. It is NOT because the Supreme is present as an indwelling of the mind or the intellect per se; no: it is more fundamental than that and he partakes in minuscule ways in all of our bodies to the point we live and move within the Supreme because of it. A kitty cat has six pads and one pad claw not, but all pads are clawed, and that is the invention of God the Supreme to support a cat in its ability to trap food much easier than with just one claw that was true in the Sabre Tooth Tiger of this past ice age. That provides the reader the marvelous thought just how the human form has been changed over the past fifty thousand years to live better without all that hair and fang. Painting in the caves is the inborn intellect being used, but until man had a larger brainstem, a Vermeer was not possible ever. All of the evolutionary perks to man, other than his form and intellect, are the result of God the Supreme adjusting the concept of mankind or humanity everywhere, is because the Supreme was fully capable of understanding what existence had to have on these lowest possible levels should be and now what mankind was essentially born with.
 
The idea of superb talents in music and painting and in administration and outstanding leadership, is and still belongs to the Father, but the Supreme is relegated to the high ideal of who should use it best and not just anyone. In most cases superb talents are still the prerogative of the Universal Father to grant, and even the issue of gay or not gay is a prerogative of the Universal Father at best.
 
Up until this late September, the Supreme was competent in this use of our organism to determine the true evolutionary rate of entire planetary populations by species. He not only indwelt humanity but was in the cell structures of body and mind down to the single cell amoeba. This is why the Supreme is still a residual in us and everything one else on Urantia including the rocks and the trees and the water.
 
I make the mistake when I explain the Supreme of not speaking to this fundamental charge of God the Supreme on Urantia or any other planet with life on it. It is well explained in the Urantia Book, but it has never been well written about. Now I will show you something of great importance that needs to be explained very well if we are ever to grasp why God the Supreme may HAVE TO REMAIN A RESIDUAL DEITY and not a discrete Deity under the control of the Paradise Trinity.
 
 
First, realize the Paradise Trinity never controlled God the Supreme, but God the Supreme was in the Trinity as the first experiential Trinity in the Trinity of Trinities. Master Spirit Four explains that this entire operation of Supremacy was never meant to be fully controlled by Paradise, but to be controlled by the evolution of OTHER SUPREME ACTING ENTITIES, neither God the Supreme or God the Father, but an in-between synthesis of power synthesis and life synthesis conglomerations. These entities-to-be expected and who actually arrived on Paradise, six months before the Supreme blew himself up on the third circuit of Havona on the Urantia calendar date of 26 September. 2019.
 
Ocilliaya (Master Spirit Four who represents the Father-Son Deity union) states that God the Supreme knew who they were, but was troubled by the fact that there was no instruction with them as to how they should be used, or how they could be instigated into the rulership of God the Supreme, when he had achieved synchrony with the Father and Son and Spirit on Paradise. The Paradise Trinity was not any part of these proposed uses of the new entities recently presented to God the Supreme, but the Supreme was so unusually upset by their appearance he saw to it that they all died but one when the primary eruption occurred removing the Supreme from service.
 
 
The Triunity of Spatial Resolve, which I believe is Triunity Fourteen and not published in our Urantia Book, nor is it so stated in the new Urantia Book, the Sixth Epochal Revelation.
 
 
TRIUNITY 14
 
I quote from the Magisterial Son of Scientific teaching. Who states:
 
 
“Those who understand science well never have all their attention directed to the mathematics of being, but to the precision of quantities to measure forces.
 
“For that reason, the Father has a Counsel available named TRIUNITY 14, and that is to consume your interest enough all of you to realize that God the Supreme was entirely primarily for processing what Triunity 14, was all about. Triunity 14, states in part, ‘all men and women are to be one breed in the future, regardless of their origins on millions and millions of human planets scattered throughout the time-space universe. In that conception no one must ever leave the idea along that the Order of Man, is to be duplicated once the era of time-space is completed under his guidance. Be assured this is a concept only, and no such decision was ever taken to cut the idea of humanity off at the knees, and therefore prevent further human types from occurring ever.
 
“Further more, the trial of being man with woman, keeps the entire matter open for debate, for the human who is able to do this revelatory work, observes that procreation produces a type of man who is disinterested in spirit learning, and therefore is useless to live with as a projector of spiritual faith except to a few like him, who sees nothing more than learning as the way to proceed as to a career in high administration in the Local Universes as a spirit being.
 
 
“Triunity 14 speaks to the idea that all progression is family oriented, yet the precise definition of family is never given and we have extended families, work families, church families, government families, all of which aid in the esprit de corp for families to feel safe with each other and to achieve high exercises in achievement, On Urantia, so much bias attends to same gender families, this transmitter chokes on the idea that has anything to do with children, but then Urantia cannot keep its hands out of that area either to its harsh condemnation by most other planets who view the growth of the idea of “gay” being actually practiced as legal marriage.
 
“God the Supreme is, or was, bemused by this mind game Urantians play over sex and culture and prison and women’s rights and so on. But he never grasped the truth when Ron says to all of us, ‘you dare not deny love wherever or whenever it takes hold, and the idea of gay is preposterous but love making preposterous too.
 
“Triunity 14 also states that all comprehension is not to be directed to procreation, but Urantia and the Supreme severely disagree with that proscription to the point the Urantia planet contains fiur times the number of people it can carry safely to supply them with good food and water and raw materials to build the structures civilization works and lives in.
 
“Triunity 14 also proclaims that the idea of Platonic love is better than no love but this transmitter says that if it is experiencable at all, it is the Rotary Club doing a chicken bake for the elderly and no one else.
 
“As Rayson, I further state that the idea of God the Supreme was so noxious to all of us while he pillaged the Local Universes of Nebadon and Henselon in particular, that nothing was left in them worth mentioning in administrative sections as well, that the entire of a Supreme being became an anathema to this Transmitter too as the Supreme savaged his frame to the point he often lies dying bit by bit in the spit of disgust over what he just encountered.
 
“God the Supreme never mentions Triunity 14 because the Supreme never quite contemplated a universe without humanity to begin with, but at the same time, never cared for it during the Lucifer rebellion on Urantia or Henselon or Alvoring or even Avalon, among the many the rebellion touched and never mentioned in the fifth epochal revelation known as the Urantia Book on Urantia.
 
“The supreme also knew that Urantia was a peculiarly difficult planet to administer to, just for the fact it never had a Planetary Prince to manage it in visible form, as normal planets have a visible spiritual government to prevent the rise of churches and the personification of cults, which the idea of Jesus has too often become on Urantia.
For that reason God the Supreme petitioned the Eternal Son for instructions about how to use fifteen thousand new entities sent to him by the Paradise Trinity. He knew full well that Triunity 14, was not ready for use on Urantia at any time and would never be useful to be applied to the Planetary System now yet called Satania, but a new name will be applied to this planetary system because the present name is using the name of Satan in it as he, Satan, a long time ago, was honored as an excellent administrator of most planets in Satania then. For that reason the Supreme questioned what he was to do with 15,000 new entities to run Urantia in particular– so he thought– and fell ill when the Eternal Son, he would use them to advantage when the time came.
 
“The Eternal Son indicated they would meld into the superstructure of the Supreme when that individual was prepared to take on the administration of the Local Universes in the Grand Universe, especially those who were destined to work in the Supreme-Ultimate, first outer space level (OSL1) However OSL1 was to be stationing its first use of spirit life as early as five to seven Urantia years from now based on the success of the Local Universes near the wall of Galaxies, which is the outside “skin”, or front side, of OSL1. (This concludes Rayson’s remarks.]
Near the last of September this year, the Supreme Being ordered the 15,000 new entities to attend a briefing before him, and then blew himself up killing all but six of the 15,000 beings donated to his cause by the Paradise Trinity through the Eternal Son.
 
God the Supreme proceeded to destroy those 15,000 entities presented to him earlier by the Eternal Son. The Supreme maimed at least fifty thousand administrators on Salvington and Alvoring combined, and never stopped on Salvington until all entities used to support he Bestowal Commission on Urantia we either killed or crippled to the point they could no longer attend to their duties.
 
We now turn to the theory of Evolution, and just what God thought he was doing to preserve his views as the chief control over evolution on the material spheres of time.
 
 
EVOLUTION IS NOT SUPREME
THE SUPREME USES IT BUT DOES NOT DESIGN IT
 
I know very little about what evolution is. I know it from the fossil record and people much smarter than myself who can determine how these changes are defined as part of the evolutionary record on our planet.
 
This evening I looked up where evolution stands to get vocabulary that reflects what God the Supreme deals with in terms of useful scientific terms and then to explain how the Supreme might, or might not, use those areas for his own development. I learned there are three prevailing theories in the universities today and they are defined as;
 
1 - Orthogenesis: the theory that life has a built in ability to change itself to live better either in body form or in mind form;
 
2. Ontogeny - The within nature of an organism to transform say from and egg to an adult. These are examples of truth of being and are not an evolution but a transcendency of growth forms by genetics.
 
3. Lamarckism - Acquiring characteristics from the environment influend only. Heavy beards would be an example and the body adaptation to easily grown them in constant arctic conditions.
 
 
Here is the lecture printed which I read to show the categories in evolutionary theory from a speech in 1995 by Ernst Mayr. (See attribution note at the bottom of this quoted paragraph.]
 
“These three theories were trans-mutationism, the claim that evolutionary novelties originate by major mutations and by the saltational origin of new kinds of organisms, and two transformational theo-ries, which explained evolution in terms of the gradual change of a preexisting entity. These transformational theories took their cue from ontogeny, and believed that just as the fertilized egg is gradually trans-formed into an adult individual, so an evo-lutionary lineage is gradually transformed. There are two very different conceptions of the nature of this transformation, that is, how the transformation is caused. One of them, orthogenesis, Lamarchism is the theory that in the world of life there is some built-in tendency or drive toward progression, improvement, and finally, perhaps, even perfection. The other, Lamarckism, is based on the belief in a direct influence of the environment on the genetic material and an inheritance of ac-quired characters. From 1859 to about 1940, these three opposing theories . . . . “
 
ATTRIBUTION:
THE MODERN EVOLUTIONARY THEORY ERNST MAYR Museum of Comparative Zoology, 26 Oxford Street, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA 02138 Capstone Address, Presented at the 75th Annual Meeting of The American Society of Mammalogists, Burlington, VT, June 1995
 
 
The whole point of doing this is to provide us a way to refer to the work of God the Supreme concerning earth orientation of human development on any material planet which raises human for ascension to perfection.
 
God the Supreme deals only with Ontogeny. That is the part of evolution that transcends temporary forms to be an adult from an egg to Suomi Wrestler, for instance. While Orthogenesis is the Eternal Son and the life endowment operation to animate matter with its propensity to bloom or become perfect.. Orthogenesis is also a major secret of universe endowment of spheres like Urantia, which is a particularly creative group of humans far beyond what is normally seen in the planetary systems of Satania.
 
The problem with the Supreme removing himself is that a lot of similar operations he control on Urantia can be produced on Urantia from other sources to come in and maintain ontogenesis. Thought Adjusters develop the uncanny ability to remove unwanted genetic material in man, and actually, in my case as your author, removed cysts in my feet in order to stabilize my walk easily. God the Supreme does this for most humans by establishing growth to prevent giantism or dwarfism, and the Supreme routinely did this, in order to maintain a healthy population here. The Urantia Book also mentions that it thinks God the Supreme determined the axis tilt on the planet to keep it from overheating in its early days. All of that is called ontogeny or ontogenesis as another form of the word.
 
The removal of God the Supreme on Urantia will entail losing the cell structures we currently use to grow our evolving bodies toward body design perfection. I tend to feel we are, at least in beauty appearances of abstract forms of men and women, reaching the most that can be done with our style of body. MICHAEL OF NEBADON reports that human bodies born today are almost twice as effective at reproduction rates than bodies were in 1930. However, the mental capacities in most humans today drop about four (4) point in IQ as the brain stems are over fed and the heartless wars of attrition force the mind into so much fear, the mind becomes encumbered with fear antigens instead curiosity antigens through the Adjutant Spirit series produced by the Creative Spirit or Holy Spirit depending on the title you are familiar with.
 
God the Supreme encouraged the use of school studies to learn the way to live on Urantia, but the Father much prefers direct experience, and but for teachers, Urantia might go back to the old idea all born here are laborers except for college professors who must lean all the an to keep pace with the arrival of the Magisterial Sons shortly on Urantia.
 
 
The MAGISTERIAL SONS TO
CLEAR URANTIA OF THE SUPREME
 
Finally, how does thing resolve for Urantia, and perhaps for Nebadon? The answer likely lies in the proposed divine Missions by the Magisterial Sons, to clear Urantia of God the Supreme now. But that will likely take hundreds of years to do fully, but in the mean time, the Magisterial Sons slated to return to Urantia to do this work are being re-named as we speak, and the familiar names of SERARA and MONJORONSON are likely to disappear for good now that we have a full court hearing over the issues of names again. I am partly responsible for the name MONJORONSON permeating the speech of many who knew of the pending Magisterial Missions, but I had nothing to do with the name SERARA. Appearing at all, and now learn that SERARA is really one named MONJORONSON and it gets so confusing Paradise renames them all to start without these confusions erupting for anyone. We expect that Monjoronson might be retained but that SERARA may be another and unknown to us at this time.
 
God the Supreme is to be removed from Urantia, at least that is the plan now. Normal procedures are soon to be followed, but the damage to me and the rest of who supported the Farther way without being interfered with has a cost so high to some, that it may be impossible for me to stay much longer. Much has to do with the idea of penury not, but with the instability of a human platform that has a lot of miles on it too, In any case God the Supreme has to be removed carefully and fully or conflicts will start rising when Adam and Eve arrive to teach from the book of the sixth epochal revelation. In that case we stand well, and hope this Bulletin has taught some what the Supreme is, what was intended to do with the Supreme, and so on.
 
We bid you all a good day, and God Bless all.
 
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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2019, 03:10:11 am »
Ron—
WOW!    I thank you profusely for this.  
I had no idea that the Supreme was so involved in biology as I never read that in the UB. I don’t know how I could have missed it because I have studied it for many years.  I always thought that it was the Creator Son that designed life patterns for his particular local universe, and was in charge of the biology.

I started reading this post about 1:45 am, and as I look at the clock, its nearly 3:00am.  I spent a lot of time earlier this evening re-reading for about the 20th time the forward of the UB trying to learn more about the different layers of deity, and I did.  Each time I pick it up, I see things that I had missed before.

After reading the section on God the Sevenfold, I noticed that the Supreme Being was number four on our sevenfold approach to Deity.  This tells me that the whole ascension plan will probably be modified in some way.  I can't help but wonder if it will take another generation or so before the SER is released as the Supreme must be removed so carefully and I assume that means slowly.

At any rate this is awesome and tomorrow I am going to go over it again as it is a treasure trove of information.  I’m sure there will be more questions.
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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2019, 04:08:22 am »
@Amethyst, I echo your sentiments. Christmas came early for us and Bulletin 9 is a treasured gift indeed. So much is becoming clearer to me with respect to the biological conflict between Adjuster fusion and the Supreme that many of us continue to experience, resulting in physical pain and discomfort. I too will have to re-read Bulletin 9 to have this revelation sink in. Happy learning! Wendy 

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2019, 05:54:23 am »
[ I am here attempting to make a synthesis of a part of Bulletin 9, for a clearer understanding, in regards to the relationship of God the Supreme with us, humans and how far our life, present and future, can be dependable upon His work ]
  • God the Supreme is the ruler of each individual planet in a galaxy and there are billions of them in the time space universes.
  • None other than God the Supreme who gave the name “URANTIA” to our planet earth, long after He sent a deity entity, named GAIA, who was to introduce fishes and animals before the appearance of man.
  • God the Supreme rules only which is time conditioned and no more.
  • God the Supreme provided some species for experimental purposes which Darwin called “the survival of the fittest”.
  • One billion years ago, GAIA, the new deity entity explored the continent and directed the LIFE CARRIERS where to plant plasm to start life.
  • Biologically, the anatomy of man is closely linked to the effect of evolution, under the supervision of God the Supreme.
  • Procreation for animals is a prerogative of God the Supreme, which most of the Local Universes are provided with as a favor.
  • Humans are animals with the ability to procreate, to know God well enough and to climb the ladder of perfection through an ascension career.
  • It is God the Supreme that makes the ascension career possible for all inhabited planets.
  • God the Supreme is a biological entity, in the sense that he permeates literally our whole body, so much so that we live and move within him.
  • God the Supreme is fully involved in the evolution of man at a biological level, but as to the form and the intellect, it belongs only to the FATHER.
[ I am opened for any further clarification or correction. I will try to proceed even more with this synthesis later on so as to cover the entire bulletin. ] Domtia
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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2019, 10:14:08 am »
...[...]...
After reading the section on God the Sevenfold, I noticed that the Supreme Being was number four on our sevenfold approach to Deity.  This tells me that the whole ascension plan will probably be modified in some way.  I can't help but wonder if it will take another generation or so before the SER is released as the Supreme must be removed so carefully and I assume that means slowly.

At any rate this is awesome and tomorrow I am going to go over it again as it is a treasure trove of information.  I’m sure there will be more questions.



Amethyst. Similarly, yesterday I was researching God the Sevenfold in the Urantia Book:
1) God the Father;
2) God the Son;
3) - God, Spirit;
4) - the Supreme Being;
5) - the Seven Master Spirits;
6) - the Ancients of Days;
7) - the Creator Sons of the Local Universes (Michael and Divine Minister).

With the extinction of God, the Supreme His attributions are in principle replaced by God the Sevenfold.

From what I read in the Urantia Book I understood that the Supreme Being and God the Supreme are the same.

But then comes the question, the million dollar question:

And if the Supreme Being and God the Supreme are the same, how is the new configuration of God the Sevenfold?



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Amethista. Da mesma forma, ontem eu estava pesquisando sobre Deus, o Sétuplo no Livro de Urantia:
1) -  Deus, Pai; 
2) - Deus, Filho; 
3) - Deus, Espírito;
4) - o Ser Supremo;
5) -  os Sete Espiritos Mestres;
6) -  os Anciões dos Dias;
7) -  os Filhos Criadores dos Universos Locais (Michael e Ministra Divina).

Com a extinção de Deus, o Supremo suas atribuições, a princípio, são substituídas por Deus, o Sétuplo.

Pelo que eu li no Livro de Urantia eu entendi que o Ser Supremo e Deus, o Supremo são os mesmos.

Mas então vem a indagação, a pergunta de um milhão de dólares:

E se o Ser Supremo e Deus, o Supremo são os mesmos, como é que fica a nova configuração de Deus, o Sétuplo?
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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2019, 12:53:03 pm »
Julio--Exactly!  That is the very same question I have.  I do not yet know how this changes the configuration of God the sevenfold.  It may have been given to us and I missed it.  That is very easy for me to do when topics get very complicated.

It is my understanding after reading the forward again the the Supreme being was made up of two parts, one, the Almighty Supreme, and two, God the Supreme.  That really gets confusing, I know, but the Almighty Supreme was the power the Supreme was given.  But now that it is gone I guess it doesn't make any difference.

Clency-I like the way you summarized this.  I think it clarifies the bulletin very well.  Almost all of this is stuff I did not know about the Supreme.
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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2019, 02:27:19 pm »
Hello Amethyst and all.  No one seems to grasp that the Deity of the Supreme is one, but it is made up of two parts just like your brain is one but has two hemispheres.

God the Supreme was brought into existence by the ideals of another realm we may never be allowed to fully speak to.  I still think we need a primer course from any new revelation about CREATION,  The churches are mumbly and truly useless and I think they should be sent home to any spiritual parent to put them to bed and lock the door against them ever being used again.  No wonder we have sociopaths who thing they can do anything because they have "rights." that transcend the Ten Commandments.

God is ONE and all of you truly subscribe to that basic tenet {rule).  But what happens when you divine the oneness of God into creative distances and life patterns by difussion oneness into trillions of life forms and gravity style planets, you create a duality.
UNDERSTAND THE SUPREME PARTS THIS WAY:

The FIRST SOURCE AND CENTER (God existing after I AM, and before he was called Father) divided reality into two parts:

1  The Deified

2  The Nondeified
God the Supreme must be both.

The Defied is the universe of all living beings willed and non willed and anything else available by Deity fiat.

The Nondeified is all inanimate creations like galaxies and planets and water and salt and billions more of examples.

God the Supreme operates only in the Deified parts of the universe.

God the Almighty operates only in the Nondeified parts of the universe.

The DEITY OF THE SUPREME is neither God the Supreme or the Almighty Supreme. The Deity of the Supreme is more the Trinity, but has been usurped by the Almighty seeking immediate restitution to open the first outer space level to life he says is sufficiently developed to seize control of Urantia.

Why Urantia?

The Almighty Supreme reasons that Urantia has been designed to be the open door to settle the first life in the first outer space level, and therefore must be brought under his control.

I have not yet written the bulletin that explains all this, but you and all others here must learn to understand that Bulletin 9 has to be understood before Bulletin 10 can be read and understood, so I have to wait until you Amethyst and Weydevu and Clency and all of you have some replete understanding of the importance of the Supreme work on Urantia.  While God the Supreme is biological in all phases on Urantia, the Almighty Supreme is replete Deification of all that is material.  Literally, the Almighty Supreme wants you to walk on divine dirt!  I hope you can comprehend that as silly as it sounds to a mortal mind much better centered on reality than the Almighty Supreme is settled on right now.

The Almighty worries about gravity and solar systems and planets that tilt the wrong way and works with Power Directors only and that which works the material universes.  Interestingly, I am not aware that the Almighty Supreme works at all with the Unqualified Absolute which is the Infinite part of how planets and suns get the energy to materialize in our Grand Universe.  God the Supreme never works with Ultimatons, but the Almighty does once they are available to use outside of Paradise.

I know just enough to say that God the Supreme has no clue why underneath the Superuniverse of Orvonton, our Superuniverse we on this planet live in, there is a very deep pool of too hot Ultimatons that must be allowed to cool there, individually for millennia of Urantia time they are so hot.  The Almighty Supreme visits this pool everyday and tells the Father just how many Ultimatons exist there, and how many are cooled and so on that allows HIM, the Father,  ro release them into deep space for sub particle building.

That is the difference between the Almighty (undeified) and God the Supreme (Deified), and it just is not hard to see the basic elements of all reality in this understanding of what parts make it up.

Further stated, and I do not want to go further than this as it constitutes a slightly different form of a lesson than this statement allows, the Deity Absolute contends we are at a limit even for this to be said and I back off . . . .

The Deity of the Supreme, and that is not the Almighty part or the God part, has never violated what the Supreme should be, but it is the Almighty part that got angry and seized what Michael would not give to the Almighty as a gift:  Urantia and all of Nebadon to use as a staging place to launch the population of the First Outer Space Zone.  Now it is far more complicated than that too ,but for our understanding and why we got hit as transmitters, that is what happened when Michael would not give the Almighty his desire to use Urantia and Nebadon as the staging area for the OSL1 places.

Thank you
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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2019, 07:23:18 am »
Now I'm on vacation, so I have more time to participate in the Serara Forum.

I will report my personal opinion on various subjects as an observer only. If my view is wrong I apologize to everyone in advance.

With the news that God the Supreme is with God, the Eternal Son but is inactive, comes the first and most profound reflections on the universe of universes, on what happened, its causes, and possible solutions.

I will write the messages in part as many subjects are coming to my mind for everyone's reflection.

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Agora estou de férias e, então, tenho mais tempo para participar no Fórum Serara.

Vou relatar minha opinião pessoal, sobre vários assuntos, apenas como observador. Se minha visão estiver errada eu peço desculpas antecipadas a todos.

Com a notícia de que Deus, o Supremo está com Deus, Filho Eterno mas está inativo, vem as primeiras e extremamente profundas reflexões sobre o universo dos universos, sobre o que aconteceu, suas causas, e possíveis soluções.

Irei escrever as mensagens em partes, pois muitos assuntos estão vindo em minha mente para reflexão de todos.
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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2019, 07:44:10 am »
Part I

First statement. God the Supreme is with God, Eternal Son, but is inactive.

So God the Supreme may have even been self-extinguished, but has risen and is now inactive with God the Eternal Son.

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Let's do it then. a comparison of God the Supreme with the character Groot (the tree) of the fictional movie Guardians of the Galaxy. As there are several messages, I ask you to wait until the last message ends and then reflect on the whole work, or reflection.


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A little initial remark:

The references below are websites in Portuguese language about the character "Groot" but can also be found in the English language and possibly in other languages:

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groot

https://br.ign.com/cinema-tv/53998/news/diretor-de-guardioes-da-galaxia-confirma-morte-de-groot-no-primeiro-filme

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Anyone who watched the movie knows that the character "Groot" (The Tree) died in the first movie.

(Sorry for telling this to those who didn't see the movie, spoiling the surprise).

However, from the remains of the dead tree (character Groot) appears the resurgence of "Baby Groot" in the following films.

Some say, as one of the sites mentioned above, that it is not the same "Groot" character, but another "Groot" (dumber!).

Unless mistakenly, the conception of the character "Groot" is as if it were a strong character, originated from the biology of evolution, as a tree, but dumb. I do not share with this view of the character "Groot" because in my view, it is just an evolutionary fiction character that goes from imperfection to perfection gradually. Of course, baby Groot is more "dumb" because he was born and then has to accumulate the whole experience again until his vision of reality improves.

I already make it clear that in my view (which may be wrong) I do not consider God the Supreme "dumb" at all, but inexperienced, as if he were a teenager in the universe of universes.


(To be continued)



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Parte I

Primeira afirmação. Deus, o Supremo está com Deus, Filho Eterno, mas está inativo.

Então, Deus, o Supremo pode ter até ter sido extinto, por vontade própria, mas ressurgiu e agora está inativo com Deus, Filho Eterno.

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Vamos fazer, então. uma comparação de Deus, o Supremo com o personagem Groot (a árvore) do filme de ficção  Guardiões da Galáxia. Como são várias mensagens, peço que esperem até terminar a última mensagem para depois refletirem no conjunto da obra, ou reflexão.

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Uma pequena observação inicial:

As referências abaixo são sites no idioma portugues sobre o personagem "Groot" mas podem ser achados também no idioma inglês e, possivelmente, em outros idiomas:

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groot

https://br.ign.com/cinema-tv/53998/news/diretor-de-guardioes-da-galaxia-confirma-morte-de-groot-no-primeiro-filme

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Quem assistiu filme, sabe que o personagem "Groot" (A árvore) morreu no primeiro filme.

(Desculpe por contar isto para aqueles que não viram o filme, estragando a surpresa).

No entanto, dos restos da árvore morta (personagem Groot) aparece o ressurgimento do "Baby Groot", nos filmes seguintes.

Alguns dizem, como um dos sites acima referidos, que não se trata do mesmo personagem "Groot", mas um outro "Groot" (mais burro!).

Salvo engano, a concepção do personagem "Groot" é como se fosse um personagem forte, originado da biologia da evolução, pois uma árvore, mas burro. Não compartilho com esta visão do personagem "Groot", pois na minha visão, é apenas um personagem de ficção evolutivo que vai da imperfeição para a perfeição aos poucos. Logicamente, o baby Groot é mais "burro" pois nasceu e então tem que acumular toda a experiência de novo até melhorar sua visão da realidade.

Já deixo claro que, em minha visão (que pode estar errada) não considero, de forma alguma, Deus, o Supremo "burro", mas inexperiente, como se fosse um adolescente no universo dos universos.


(Continua)
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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2019, 12:57:30 pm »
Part II (Continued)

Continuing my personal opinion. If I have been wrong, I apologize in advance and ask them to correct me.

In Part I I reported on the previous statement released here among the latest news from the Serara Forum, namely:

- God the Supreme is inactive with God, Eternal Son

Thus, if God the Supreme is inactive with God the Eternal Son, then God the Supreme may have risen after his extinction in September 2019.

I made a brief comparison with the fictional character "Groot" (a tree) in the movie Guardians of the Galaxy who dies, but after death resurrects the "baby" Groot.

Now in Part II, I will continue on this initial reflection.

Since God the Supreme is young in eternity, he may have made a mistake in his interpretation of the facts.

This is very common, for example, among teenage humans who often make mistakes. This does not mean, however, that an adolescent human being who errs has error as his destiny; however, his error must serve as a reflection.

Perhaps, ideally for God, the Supreme out of inactivity is when he reaches a mature age in the universe of universes, for example, when most of the local universes are in the Age of Light and Life.

In this period, while a large part of the local universes are evolving from imperfection to perfection in pursuit of the Age of Light and Life, it is best for God the Supreme to be inactive.

As I understand it, God the Supreme summarizes the evolution of the personalities of the worlds of time and space.

However, while a large part of the local universes have not yet reached the Age of Light and Life, the synthesis made by God, the Supreme is also incomplete and may cause errors in interpretation of the incomplete facts of the evolving universes. God the Supreme.

For example, we imagine that less than half (less than 50%) of all local universes of the seven superuniverses are in the Age of Light and Life.

Then most of the planets would be in evolutionary phase, and thus, with many errors and misconceptions to overcome.

In this phase of the universe of universes, or rather, at the grand universe level, of the evolutionary planets of time and space, it will occur that the synthesis will also be equally incomplete and possibly full of errors and misconceptions that will be overcome.

What I mean is that everything has its time.

What happened to God the Supreme may have happened because of the immaturity of the evolutionary worlds of space and time in the grand universe that reflected in God the Supreme.

I believe that most of the evolutionary local universes of the grand universe have not yet reached the Age of Light and Life.

(To be continued)

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Parte II (Continuação)

Continuando minha opinião pessoal. Se eu tiver equivocado, eu peço desculpas antecipadas e peço que me corrijam.

Na Parte I eu relatei sobre a afirmativa anterior divulgada aqui entre as últimas notícias do Fórum Serara, ou seja:

-  Deus, o Supremo está inativo com Deus, Filho Eterno

Assim, se Deus, o Supremo esta inativo com Deus, Filho Eterno, então, Deus, o Supremo pode ter ressurgido após sua extinção em setembro de 2019.

Fiz uma breve comparação com o personagem de ficção "Groot" (uma árvore) do filme Guardiões das Galáxias que morre, mas depois da morte ressurge o "baby" Groot.

Agora na Parte II, irei continuar sobre esta reflexão inicial.

Como Deus, o Supremo é jovem a nível da eternidade, pode ser que tenha cometido erro em sua interpretação dos fatos.

Isto é muito comum, por exemplo, entre os seres humanos adolescentes que muitas vezes erram. Isto não significa, no entanto, que um ser humano adolescente que erra tenha como o destino o erro, no entanto, seu erro deve servir de reflexão.

Talvez, o ideal para Deus, o Supremo sair da inatividade é quando chegar a uma idade madura a nível do universo dos universos, por exemplo, quando a maior parte dos universos locais estiverem na Era da Luz e da Vida.

Neste período, enquanto uma grande parte dos universos locais estão em evolução da imperfeição para a perfeição, em busca da Era de Luz e da Vida, o melhor é que Deus, o Supremo fique inativo.

Pelo que eu entendi, Deus, o Supremo faz a síntese da evolução das personalidades dos mundos do tempo e do espaço.

Só que, enquanto uma grande parte dos universos locais, ainda não chegaram a Era da Luz e da Vida, a síntese efetuada por Deus, o Supremo também está incompleta, podendo ocasionar erros de interpretação dos fatos incompletos dos universos em evolução, por parte de Deus, o Supremo.

Por exemplo, imaginamos que menos da metade (menos de 50%) de todos os universos locais dos sete superuniversos estejam na Era da Luz e da Vida.

Então, a maior parte dos planetas estariam em fase evolutiva, e assim, com muitos erros e equivocos a serem superados.

Nesta fase do universo dos universos, ou melhor, a nível de grande universo, dos planetas evolutivos do tempo e do espaço, ocorrerá que a síntese também estará igualmente incompleta e, possivelmente, cheia de erros e equívocos que serão superados.

O que eu quero dizer é que tudo tem o seu tempo.

O que aconteceu, com Deus, o Supremo, talvez tenha acontecido em razão da imaturidade dos mundos evolutivos do espaço e tempo do grande universo e que refletiram em Deus, o Supremo.

Eu acredito que a maior parte dos universos locais evolutivos do grande universo ainda não atingiram a Era da Luz e da Vida.

(Continua)

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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2019, 01:53:46 pm »
Part III

Continuing my personal opinion. If I have been wrong, I apologize in advance and ask them to correct me.

In Part II, I reported that possibly most of the local universes are not in the Age of Light and Life.

He said that from what I understood in the earlier messages of the Serara Forum, God the Supreme represents the reflection of the synthesis of the personalities of the evolutionary worlds of time and space in the grand universe.

Thus, as most local universes possibly need to evolve, the synthesis made by God, the Supreme is incomplete and thus subject to error and misunderstanding.

I have narrated that perhaps it would be best for God the Supreme to remain inactive until most of the local universes of the evolutionary worlds of time and space in the grand universe are in the Age of Light and Life.

I then continue with part III.

Initially, I supplement the previous sentence by saying that perhaps it was better than God, the Supreme would remain inactive until most of the local universes, or TOTALITY, of the evolutionary worlds of time and space in the grand universe are in the Age of God. Light and Life.

We evolutionary humans of time and space seek to evolve toward perfection.

Yes, we are imperfect. But although we are imperfect, and we know it, we seek to evolve, we seek to perfect ourselves constantly.

God the Father, which means love, is also the chief reference in pursuit of perfection, for God the Father teaches: - Be perfect, as I am perfect.

As evolutionary humans of time and space, we are imperfect, and we are subject to many errors, misconceptions, and negative emotions of animal origin.

Yes, we have animal origin, and so it often happens that we have negative emotions of animal origin, such as fear, among others, that must be overcome.

If we think we can have eternity in the heavens to do all the really important projects, even after the physical death of the body, why are we afraid?

Yes, we have the possibility of eternity in heaven by believing and submitting to the will of God the Father.

As we are imperfect, so often in our thoughts come wrong, misguided ideas.

In order to evolve, the indwelling spirit of God, the Thought Adjuster, must prevail in our minds, that is, in our case as evolutionary human beings who believe in God.

The indwelling spirit of God, the Thought Adjuster, is a part of God the Father who represents perfection.

The indwelling Spirit of God, the Thought Adjuster, must prevail over negative emotions of animal origin, such as fear. This will allow us to evolve from imperfection to perfection.

When I am in doubt, when my thoughts are in doubt, I say, in my mind, above all that is done at the will of God the Father, for I recognize the wisdom and love of God the Father.

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So let's say God the Supreme represents the reflection and synthesis of the personalities of the evolving grand universe, most of which still need evolution to reach the Age of Light and Life.

So, just as mortal human beings are evolving, so is God the Supreme evolving.

As I understand it, in the last messages here of the Serara Forum, God, the Supreme is originated by the Paradise Trinity (God, Universal Father; God, Eternal Son and God, Infinite Spirit), but also has connection with biology, ie life on the evolutionary planets of time and space.

Thus, with the connection of God the Supreme with biological life, the reflection of most evolutionary worlds that have not yet reached the Age of Light and Life, has, for the time being, at this stage of the grand universe even stronger. the emotions of animal origin, than the light of the teachings of God the Father.

In a hypothetical mathematical equation, it is as if more than half of the thoughts were misguided and full of errors from animal origin and have not yet been overcome by deep reflection on God the Father.

When the hypothetical mathematical equation has most thoughts in the right, right values, derived from the reflection of the teachings of God, Father, at this time, the reflection and synthesis of God, the Supreme will also have as its greater object the teachings of God. God the Father added the experiences that will work out in the evolutionary worlds of time and space.

The hypothetical mathematical equation that reveals, then, the best time out of God's inactivity, the Supreme, is when most or all of the local universes of time and space were in the Age of Light and Life.

I clarify that the hypothetical mathematical equation represents thought, the synthesis of the thoughts of the evolutionary worlds of time and space.

It also has the relevant issue that God the Supreme assimilates all extinct personalities who have become extinct because of sin and iniquity.

To be continued


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Parte III

Continuando minha opinião pessoal. Se eu tiver equivocado, eu peço desculpas antecipadas e peço que me corrijam.

Na Parte II, eu relatei que, possivelmente, a maior parte dos universos locais não estejam na Era da Luz e da Vida.

Disse que, pelo que eu entendi, nas mensagens anteriores do Fórum Serara, Deus, o Supremo representa a reflexão da síntese das personalidades dos mundos evolucionários do tempo e do espaço, no grande universo.

Assim, como a maior parte dos universos locais, possivelmente, precisam evoluir, a síntese efetuada por Deus, o Supremo está incompleta e, então, sujeita a erros e equívocos.

Narrei que, talvez, o melhor seria é que Deus, o Supremo continuasse inativo até que a maior parte dos universos locais dos mundos evolucionários do tempo e do espaço, no grande universo, estejam na Era da Luz e da Vida.

Continuo, então, com a  parte III.

Inicialmente, eu complemento a frase anterior, dizendo que talvez fosse melhor que Deus, o Supremo continuasse inativo até que a maior parte dos universos locais, ou a TOTALIDADE, dos mundos evolucionários do tempo e do espaço, no grande universo, estejam na Era da Luz e da Vida.

Nós seres humanos evolucionários do tempo e do espaço, buscamos evoluir em direção da perfeição.

Sim, somos imperfeitos. Mas apesar de sermos imperfeitos, e sabermos disto, buscamos evoluir, buscamos nos aperfeiçoar, constantemente.

Deus, Pai que significa amor, também é a principal referência em busca da perfeição, pois Deus, Pai ensina: - Sejam perfeitos, como eu sou perfeito.

Como seres humanos evolucionários do tempo e do espaço, somos imperfeitos, e estamos sujeitos a muitos erros, equívocos e emoções negativas de origem animal.

Sim, temos origem animal, e assim, muitas vezes, acontece que temos emoções negativas de origem animal, como medo, entre outras, que devem ser superadas.

Se pensarmos que podemos ter a eternidade nos céus para fazer todos os projetos realmente importantes, mesmo após a morte física do corpo, por que temos medo?

Sim, temos a possibilidade da eternidade nos céus, ao  acreditar e submeter a vontade de Deus, Pai.

Como somos imperfeitos, muitas vezes, em nossos pensamentos vem ideias erradas, equivocadas.

Para evoluir, deve prevalecer  o espírito residente de Deus, o Ajustador do Pensamento, em nossas mentes, ou seja, em nosso caso como seres humanos evolucionários que acreditam em Deus.

O espírito residente de Deus, o Ajustador do Pensamento, é uma parte de Deus, Pai que representa a perfeição.

O Espirito residente de Deus, o Ajustador do Pensamento deve prevalecer sobre as emoções negativas de origem animal, como o medo. Assim conseguiremos evoluir da imperfeição para a perfeição

Quando eu estou em dúvida, quando os meus pensamentos estão em dúvida, eu digo, em minha mente, acima de tudo que seja feita à vontade de Deus, Pai, pois eu reconheço a sabedoria  e o amor de Deus, Pai.


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Então, digamos que Deus, o Supremo representa a reflexão e a síntese das personalidades do grande universo, que está em evolução, sendo que a maior parte ainda precisa de evolução para chegar a Era de Luz e de Vida.

Então, assim, como os seres humanos mortais estão evoluindo, da mesma forma, Deus, o Supremo, está evoluindo.

Pelo que eu entendi, nas últimas mensagens aqui do Fórum Serara, Deus, o Supremo é originado pela Trindade do Paraíso (Deus, Pai Universal; Deus, Filho Eterno e Deus, Espírito Infinito), mas também tem ligação com a biologia, ou seja a vida nos planetas evolucionários do tempo e do espaço.

Assim, com a ligação de Deus, o Supremo com a vida biológica, a reflexão da maior parte dos mundos evolucionários que ainda não chegaram a Era da Luz e da Vida, tem, ainda, por enquanto, nesta fase do grande universo, mais forte as emoções de origem animal, do que a luz dos ensinamentos de Deus, Pai.

Em uma hipotética equação matemática, é como se fosse que mais da metade dos pensamentos fossem equivocados e cheios de erros oriundos da origem animal e que ainda não foram superados pela profunda reflexão em Deus, Pai.

Quando a hipótetica equação matemática estiver com a maior parte dos pensamentos em valores certos, corretos, oriundos da reflexão dos ensinamentos de Deus, Pai, neste momento, a reflexão e síntese de Deus, o Supremo também terá como objetivo maior, os próprios ensinamentos de Deus, Pai somados as experiências que derão certo nos mundos evolucionários do tempo e do espaço.

A hipotética equação matemática que revela, então, o melhor momento da saída da inatividade de Deus, o Supremo é quando a maioria ou a TOTALIDADE dos universos locais, do tempo e do espaço, estivem na Era da Luz e da Vida.

Esclareço que a hipotética equação matemática representa o pensamento, a síntese dos pensamentos dos mundos evolucionários do tempo e do espaço.


Também tem a relevante questão de que Deus, o Supremo assimila todos as personalidades extintas, que foram extintas por causa do pecado e da iniquidade.



Continua
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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2019, 02:35:56 pm »
Part IV

Continuing my personal opinion. If I have been wrong, I apologize in advance and ask them to correct me.

In Part III, I reported a hypothetical mathematical equation in which most of the local universes, evolutionary planets of time and space have not yet arrived in the Age of Light and Life, and thus with many errors and misconceptions that may cause reflection and synthesis of God, the Supreme must be perfected, as with the ascending evolutionary human beings of time and space.

I also related, in the final part, about the important question of God, the Supreme assimilating all personalities that were extinguished because of sin and iniquity.

So, I continue with Part IV.

God the Sevenfold is represented in the grand universe by:
1) God, Universal Father;
2) God, Eternal Son;
3) God, Infinite Spirit;
4) The Supreme Being;
5) The Seven Master Spirits;
6) The Ancients of Days;
7) The Michaeis Creator Sons (and the Divine Ministers)


For those visitors who know little about the Urantia Book, I first clarify that Jesus Christ, or rather Joshua Ben Joseph, simply Joshua, as he prefers to be called, is a Michael Creator Son who was on our planet Earth, known and named as planet Urantia, in the universe of universes, by God the Supreme.

For this reason the name, Urantia Book that represents the Fifth Reveal of the Era, which, however, is deeply outdated, according to news published in the Serara Forum.

Mantutia Melchizedek is responsible for editing and revising the Urantia Book, when information from various celestial beings was collected and disseminated to a group of Americans, and published in the English language in 1955.

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God, Universal Father; God the Eternal Son and God the Infinite Spirit form the Paradise Trinity.

In turn, the Micheal Creator Sons are children of God, Universal Father and God, Eternal Son. Divine Ministers are daughters of God, Infinite Spirit.

Similarly, the Supreme Being, the Ancients of Days, and the Seven Master Spirits are from God the Father; God the Son and God the Spirit individually, associatively, or through the Paradise Trinity.

As I understand it, however, the Supreme Being has a peculiarity.



God the Supreme also has a connection with undidified personality, unlike the other six of God the Setuple, which are exclusively formed directly by God the Father; God the Son and God the Spirit, individually, associatively or by the Paradise Trinity

In my mind, from the readings of the Urantia Book, comes the division between the Deity Absolute and the Unqualified Absolute. The latter (Unqualified Absolute) has only connection with matter and energy.

Precisely because of this peculiarity, the Supreme Being, who is the God, evolutionary, experimental, is subject to errors and misconceptions of evolution itself.



Evolution that reflects the evolutionary planets of time and space that come from imperfection to perfection.

Perhaps the importance of God the Supreme is revealed by some deity, divinity, or celestial being, such as the Council of Balance or the Finisher of the Destiny of the Universe.

I, in my humble opinion, see God the Supreme as the balance of evolutionary worlds that evolve from imperfection into the Age of Light and Life toward, then, the pursuit of perfection.

God the Supreme, in reflecting on the synthesis of evolutionary worlds, can, when all local universes are in the Age of Light and Life, make a synthesis of the good experiences that have worked thanks to the efforts of the various personalities of the universe.

Why is this synthesis necessary?

The grand universe, our place, the domain of the Supreme Being, is only a very small portion of the master universe.

The more positive experiences are synthesized, the more models heavenly beings can follow in the light of God the Father.

To be continued

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Parte IV

Continuando minha opinião pessoal. Se eu tiver equivocado, eu peço desculpas antecipadas e peço que me corrijam.

Na Parte III, eu relatei uma hipotética equação matemática em que a maior parte dos universos locais, dos planetas evolucionários do tempo e do espaço ainda não chegaram na Era da Luz e da Vida e assim com muitos erros e equívocos que podem fazer com que a reflexão e a síntese de Deus, o Supremo precisa ser aperfeiçoada, assim como acontece com os seres humanos evolucionários ascendentes do tempo e do espaço.

Relatei também, na parte final, sobre a importante questão de Deus, o Supremo assimilar todas as personalidades que foram extintas por causa do pecado e da iniquidade.

Então, continuo com a Parte IV.

Deus o Sétuplo é representado, no grande universo, por:
1) Deus, Pai Universal;
2) Deus, Filho Eterno;
3) Deus, Espírito Infinito;
4) O Ser Supremo;
5) Os Sete Espíritos Mestres;
6) Os Anciões dos Dias;
7) Os Filhos Criadores Michaeis (e as Ministras Divinas)


Para aqueles visitante que conhecem pouco o Livro de Urantia, esclareço, inicialmente, que Jesus Cristo, ou melhor, Joshua Ben Joseph, simplesmente Joshua, como prefere ser chamado, é um Filho Criador Michael que esteve em nosso planeta Terra, conhecido e nomeado como planeta Urantia, no universo dos universos, por Deus, o Supremo.

Por isto o nome, Livro de Urantia que representa a Quinta Revelaçao da Época, que no entanto, está profundamente desatualizado, conforme notícias divulgadas no Fórum Serara.

Mantutia Melquisedeque é o responsável pela edição e revisão do Livro de Urantia, quando foi coletada a informação de diversos seres celestiais e divulgados para um grupo de americanos, e publicado no idioma inglês, no ano de 1955.

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Deus, Pai Universal; Deus, Filho Eterno e Deus, Espírito Infinito formam a Trindade do Paraíso.

Por sua vez, os Filhos Criadores Micháeis são filhos de Deus, Pai Universal e Deus, Filho Eterno. As Ministras Divinas são filhas de Deus, Espírito Infinito.

Da mesma forma, o Ser Supremo, os Anciões dos Dias e os Sete Espíritos Mestres são oriundos de Deus, Pai; Deus, Filho e Deus, Espírito, individualmente, associativamente, ou através da Trindade do Paraíso.

Pelo que eu entendi, no entanto, o Ser Supremo tem uma peculiaridade.



Deus, o Supremo também tem ligação com personalidade não-deidificada, ao contrário dos demais seis, de Deus, o Setúplo, que são exclusivamente formados diretamente por Deus, Pai; Deus, Filho e Deus, Espírito, individualmente, associativamente ou pela Trindade do Paraíso


Em minha mente, sobre as leituras do Livro de Urantia, vem a divisão entre o Absoluto da Deidade e o Absoluto Inqualificável. Este último (Absoluto Inqualificável), tem ligação apenas com a matéria e energia.

Justamente, por causa desta peculiaridade, o Ser Supremo, que é o Deus, evolucionário, experimental, está sujeito a erros e equívocos da própria evolução.



Evolução que reflete os planetas evolucionários do tempo e do espaço que vem da imperfeição para a perfeição.

Talvez, a importância de Deus, o Supremo, seja revelada por alguma deidade, divindade ou ser celestial, como, por exemplo, o Conselho do Equilíbrio, ou o Consumador do Destino do Universo

Eu, em minha humilde opinião, vejo Deus, o Supremo como o equilibrio dos mundos evolucionários que evoluem da imperfeição para a Era da Luz e da Vida em direção, então, na busca da perfeição.

Deus, o Supremo, ao fazer a reflexão da síntese dos mundos evolucionários, poderá, quando todos os universos locais estiverem na Era da Luz e da Vida, fazer uma síntese das experiências boas que deram certo graças aos esforços das diversas personalidades do universo.

Por que é necessário esta síntese?

O grande universo, nosso local, domínio do Ser Supremo, é apenas uma pequeníssima parcela do universo mestre.

Quanto mais experiências positivas forem sintentizadas, mais modelos poderão ser seguidos pelos seres celestiais na luz de Deus, Pai.

Continua

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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2019, 03:21:16 pm »

Part V

Continuing my personal opinion. If I have been wrong, I apologize in advance and ask them to correct me.

In Part IV I reported that the Supreme Being has a peculiarity that distinguishes it from the rest of God, the Sevenfold.

The Supreme Being is the only one of the seven of God the Sevenfold who also has connection with the undefined part of the universe.

I have reported that there is, in my view, a sense in the Supreme Being as equilibrium when seeking reflection and synthesis in the experiences that have worked in the grand universe, by the experience and effort of the heavenly beings of the evolutionary worlds of time and space.

He said that the answer of the connection of the Supreme Being with undidified part as a form of equilibrium may be given by some deity, divinity, celestial being, such as the Council of Balance or the Finisher of Destiny of the Universe.

I have narrated that the need for evolution of the Great Universe, with experience in shaping evolutionary models that worked, may be helpful because the universe of universes is far greater than the grand universe.
 
Continuing, part V.

Part V reports on the problems with the location of this region of the universe where our planet Urantia and our local Nebadon universe are located.

As I understand it, in the Serara Forum news, our local Nebadon universe, and especially our planet Urantia (planet Earth) are situated in the border region between the Great Universe and Outer Space.

The latest news reports that our local Nebadon universe, and possibly our planet Urantia, was designed to be the gateway from Outer Space to the Great Universe.

Precisely because it is such an important frontier region in the master universe, interference occurred in the first place from God the Supreme who has dominion in the grand universe. Then, too, the second interference of God, the Last One who has dominion in outer space.

This interference is due to the location of the border, as both Deities (God the Sevenfold and God the Ultimate) would like their projects to be taken into consideration as they would affect beings from both places (outer space and grand universe).

It turns out, we have a very difficult situation here on the planet and in our local universe that was the Lucifer rebellion.

Of course, Michael de Nebadon and the Divine Minister are doing everything possible for evolutionary planets to evolve from imperfection to the Age of Light and Life in pursuit of perfection.

However, a number of failures have hindered the evolution of humanity on our planet.

The arrival of the planetary prince (First Revelation) in Mesopotamia (present-day Iraq) approximately 500,000 years ago was hundreds of thousands of normal years, until 200 to 300,000 years after arrival (confirm the correct date in the Urantia Book). Then the Lucifer rebellion occurred, which our planetary prince Caligastia, popularly known as the Devil, adhered to.

Nor was the spiritual and material evolution that would have occurred with the arrival of Adam and Eve (Second Revelation), material children scheduled to arrive on the evolutionary planets, which occurred around 36,000 years ago, which were initially located in the first Garden. from Eden, currently submerged in the Mediterranean Sea, possibly near or near the Turkish coast.

The Nordic people (Scandinavia), are the people that contain the most genetic derived from the many sons of Adam and Eve. It is no coincidence that these people have the highest index of human development on the planet. But even so, the genetic index of Adam and Eve is very few, even in Scandinavian peoples.


The arrival of Machiventa Melchizedek, the sage of Salem (Jerusalem) (Third Revelation) served to improve the spirituality of the planet that was extremely low at the time.

Abraham, the patriarch of the world's three largest monotheistic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, was a student of Machiventa Melchizedek.

In the Christian Bible, in the Old Testament Book, Genesis, there is the observation that Melchizedek gave Abram wine.

The Fourth Revelation is the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.

The Fifth Revelation is the Urantia Book, but it is very outdated, according to news from the Serara Forum, made by the same contact committee led by Mantutia Melchizedek.

I have tried to report the revelations on our planet, according to the Urantia Book to demonstrate successive failures.

Only it takes AUTONOMY for Michael of Nebadon and the Divine Minister to be able to make adjustments, corrections, for the planet Urantia to return to the light of God.

In my humble vision, the constant interference of God the Supreme and God, the Ultimate interrupting and aborting the various missions of God, may be hindering the beginning of effective spiritual recovery of our planet.

To be continued

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Parte V

Continuando minha opinião pessoal. Se eu tiver equivocado, eu peço desculpas antecipadas e peço que me corrijam.

Na Parte IV eu relatei que o Ser Supremo tem uma peculiaridade que distingue dos demais integrantes de Deus, o Sétuplo. 

O Ser Supremo é o único dos sete, de Deus, o Sétuplo, que também tem ligação com a parte não-deificada no universo.

Relatei que existe, em minha visão, um sentido no Ser Supremo como equilibrio, quando se busca a reflexão e a síntese nas experiências que deram certo no grande universo, pela experiência e esforço dos seres celestiais dos mundos evolucionários do tempo e do espaço.

Disse que a resposta da ligação do Ser Supremo com parte não deidificada, como forma de equilibrio, possa ser dada por alguma deidade, divindade, ser celestial, como o Conselho do Equilibrio ou o Consumador do Destino do Universo.

Narrei que a necessidade de evolução do Grande Universo, com a experiência na formação de modelos evolutivos que deram certo, podem ser úteis pois o universo dos universos é extremamente muito maior que o grande universo.
 
Continuando, a parte V.

A parte V relata sobre os problemas com a localização desta região do universo em que nosso planeta Urantia e nosso universo local de Nebadon estão localizados.

Segundo o que eu entendi, nas notícias do Fórum Serara, nosso universo local de Nebadon, e principalmente, nosso planeta Urantia (planeta Terra) estão situados na região de fronteira entre o Grande Universo e o Espaço Exterior.

As últimas notícias relatam que nosso universo local de Nebadon, e possivelmente, nosso planeta Urantia tinha sido projetados para ser o portal de entrada do Espaço Exterior para o Grande Universo.

Justamente, por ser região de fronteira tão importante no universo mestre ocorreu a interferência, em primeiro lugar, de Deus, o Supremo que tem o domínio no grande universo. Depois, também, a interferencia, em segundo lugar, de Deus, o Último que tem o domínio no espaço exterior.

Esta interferência se deve a localização de fronteira, pois ambas Deidades  (Deus,  o Sétuplo e Deus, o Último) gostariam de que seus projetos também fossem levados em consideração, pois afetariam os seres oriundos de ambos locais (espaço exterior e grande universo).

Acontece que, temos uma situação muito difícil aqui no planeta e em nosso universo local que foi a rebelião de Lúcifer.

Com certeza, Michael de Nebadon e a Ministra Divina estão fazendo tudo o possível para evolução dos planetas evolucionários para evoluirem da imperfeição para a Era da Luz e de Vida em busca da perfeição.

No entanto, uma série de insucessos prejudicaram a evolução da humanidade em nosso planeta.

A chegada do príncipe planetário (Primeira Revelação) na Mesopotâmia (atual Iraque), há aproximadamente 500 mil anos atrás teve centenas de milhares de anos normais, até que 200 a 300 mil anos depois da chegada (confirme a data correta no Livro de Urantia), ocorreu a rebelião de Lúcifer que nosso princípe planetário Caligastia, conhecido popularmente, como Diabo, aderiu.

Também não teve sucesso a evolução espiritual e material que seria dada com a chegada de Adão e Eva (Segunda Revelação), filhos materiais programados para chegarem nos planetas evolucionários, ocorrida por volta de 36.000 anos atrás, que se localizaram, inicialmente, no primeiro Jardim do Eden, atualmente submerso no Mar Mediterrâneo, possivelmente, próximo ao litoral da Turquia ou região próxima.

Os povos nórdicos (escandinávia), são os povos que contem a maior parte genética derivada dos muitos filhos de Adão e Eva. Não é por acaso, que estes povos tem o maior indice de desenvolvimento humano no planeta. Mas mesmo assim, o índice genetíco de Adão e Eva são muito poucos, mesmos nos povos escandinavos.


A chegada de Maquiventa Melquisedeque, o sábio de Salém (Jerusalém)  (Terceira Revelação) serviu para melhorar a espiritualidade do planeta que estava extremamente baixa na época.

Abraão, o patriarca das três maiores religiões monoteístas do mundo, judaísmo, cristianismo e islamismo foi aluno de Maquiventa Melquisedeque.

Na Bíblia crista, no Livro do Antigo Testamento, Genesis, existe a observação que Melquisedeque deu vinho a Abrãao.

A Quarta Revelação é a vida e os ensinamentos de Jesus Cristo.

A Quinta Revelação é o Livro de Urantia, mas que está muito desatualizado, conforme notícias do Fórum Serara, feitas pela mesma comissão de contato liderada por Mantutia Melquisedeque.

Tentei relatar as revelações em nosso planeta, conforme o Livro de Urantia para demonstrar os sucessivos insucessos.

Só que é necessário AUTONOMIA para Michael de Nebadon e para a Ministra Divina para poderem fazer os ajustes, as correções, para que o planeta Urantia retorne a luz de Deus.

Em minha humilde visão, a constante interferência de Deus, o Supremo e Deus, o Último interrompendo e abortando as diversas missões de Deus, talvez estejam dificultando o início de recuperação espiritual efetiva de nosso planeta.

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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2019, 03:46:34 pm »

Part VI

Continuing my personal opinion. If I have been wrong, I apologize in advance and ask them to correct me.

In part V I reported that our local Nebadon universe and our planet Urantia are in the boundary region between the Great Universe and Outer Space.

He said that as a border region, there was a lot of interference from God, the Supreme and God the Ultimate, which possibly aborted and delayed the beginning of God's various missions for the spiritual recovery of the planet.


I recounted the five revelations, according to the Urantia Book and the failures derived from the Lucifer and Caligastia rebellion (known as the Devil).

I pointed out that, in my view, it is necessary for the interference of God, the Supreme and God, the latter to give a vote of confidence with AUTONOMY to Michael de Nebadon and the Divine Minister to make corrections and adjustments for the spiritual recovery of God. our planet.

So, continuing with part VI.

It is normal that when two or more personalities decide to decide together on some really important issues, they should seek consensus.

But also, it is important that the final answer be given to some personality, if in doubt, or the persistence of deadlock in finding solutions. Otherwise, the perpetuation of impasses will delay decision-making and the effective beginning of a spiritual improvement project for a long time.

In this case, I propose that the final word be given to Michael of Nebadon, Creator Son of our Local Universe who was on our planet as Jesus Christ, or Joshua Ben Joseph, or simply, Joshua as he prefers to be called.

Having only one caveat or exception, that if God the Father decides to take up any question, the will of God the Universal Father must be done.

This does not mean that God the Supreme or God the Ultimate is set aside. Both will be able to report their concerns to God, the Universal Father who will reflect their considerations, and after hearing Michael de Nebadon, give the truth, the final word, in any stalemate over spiritual recovery projects of our planet Urantia, our local universe of Nebadon. .

Why the final word for Michael of Nebadon, except for God, Father?

Simply because a certain AUTONOMY is required to be able to work without interference in search of spiritual evolution. Many thousands of planets have reached the Age of Light and Life in our local universe. A vote of confidence is required for the work of Michael de Nebadon. And Michael of Nebadon is the direct child of God, the Universal Father, and of God, the Eternal Son. And Michal of Nebadon works with the Divine Minister who is God's direct daughter, Infinite Spirit.


To be continued
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Parte VI

Continuando minha opinião pessoal. Se eu tiver equivocado, eu peço desculpas antecipadas e peço que me corrijam.

Na parte V eu relatei que nosso universo local de Nebadon e nosso planeta Urantia estão na região de fronteira entre o Grande Universo e o Espaço Exterior.

Disse que, por ser uma região de fronteira, ocorreu muitas interferências de Deus, o Supremo e Deus o Último que, possivelmente, abortaram e atrasaram o início das diversas missões de Deus para a recuperação espiritual do planeta.


Narrei as cinco revelações, segundo o Livro de Urantia e os insucessos derivados da rebelião de Lúcifer e de Caligástia (conhecido como Diabo).

Ressaltei, que em minha visão, é necessário que cessem as interferências de Deus, o Supremo e Deus, o Último dando um voto de confiança com a AUTONOMIA para Michael de Nebadon e para a Ministra Divina fazerem as correções e ajustes para a recuperação espiritual de nosso planeta.

Então, continuando com a parte VI.

É normal que quando duas ou mais personalidades resolvem decidir, em conjunto, em algumas questões realmente importantes, devem buscar o consenso.

Mas também, é importante que a resposta final seja dada a alguma personalidade, em caso de dúvida, ou a persistência de impasse na busca de soluções. Caso contrário, a perpetuação dos impasses fará com que se adie, por um longo tempo, a tomada de decisão e início efetivo de projeto de aperfeiçoamento espiritual.

No caso, eu proponho que a palavra final seja dada a Michael de Nebadon, Filho Criador de nosso Universo Local e que esteve em nosso planeta como Jesus Cristo, ou Joshua Ben Joseph, ou simplesmente, Joshua como prefere ser chamado.

Tendo apenas uma ressalva ou exceção, que caso Deus, Pai resolver assumir qualquer questão, deverá ser feita a vontade de Deus, Pai Universal.

Isto não significa que Deus, o Supremo, ou Deus, o Último sejam deixados de lado. Ambos poderão relatar suas preocupações a Deus, Pai Universal que irá refletir suas considerações, e após ouvir Michael de Nebadon, dar o verídito, a palavra final, em eventuais impasses sobre projetos de recuperação espiritual de nosso planeta Urantia, de nosso universo local de Nebadon.

Por que a palavra final para Michael de Nebadon, com ressalva para Deus, Pai?

Simplesmente, por que é necessário uma certa AUTONOMIA para poder trabalhar sem interferências, em busca da evolução espiritual. Muitos milhares de planetas já chegaram a Era de Luz e de Vida em nosso universo local. É necessário um voto de confiança para o trabalho de Michael de Nebadon. E Michael de Nebadon é filho direto de Deus, Pai Universal e de Deus, Filho Eterno. E Michal de Nebadon trabalha com a Ministra Divina que é filha direta de Deus, Espírito Infinito.

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Re: Bulletin 9 - What Is the Supreme Being and Evolution
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2019, 04:04:33 pm »
Part VII



This is the last part of this long message today.

Continuing my personal opinion. If I have been wrong, I apologize in advance and ask them to correct me.

In part VI I reinforced the request for AUTONOMY and the vow of confidence to Michael de Nebadon, who was on our planet like Jesus, with the exception for God the Father.

He said that any question or disagreement from God the Supreme and God the Ultimate must be brought by them to God the Universal Father who before deciding and giving the final word will hear Michael of Nebadon.


Now a supplication to all the personalities of the universe of universes. When you have an important doubt in your actions, ask yourself what God, the universal Father teaches to all personalities.

Even though commanded by his immediate superiors, there is God, the Universal Father who is greater than anything, and what really matters, in doubt, is to submit totally to God, the Universal Father.

If in doubt about an order received from your superior, somehow seek the answer from God, the Universal Father.

Doing so, the seed of evil will not germinate. Evil that can be derived from any major misconception or error, or in more serious cases, sin, iniquity, and rebellion against God, the Universal Father.

Remember, God the Universal Father is a loving father who knows us especially in the most important requests. Of course, in our requests we must also do our part with work and study, and if it is fate, everything will be done at the right time.

The final concern of this message speaks to the specific issue of our planet that is about to soon have a geographical shift of the poles, killing most of humanity, the animals of the planet.

How difficult it is to face this situation in normal times. Yes, this is a geological situation that has already happened and that happens on evolutionary planets like our planet.

I ask in my prayers that the Deities, the deities, the heavenly beings seek a solution in the heavens for Michael of Nebadon and his heavenly beings sent for the spiritual recovery of the planet.

I ask you to allow our planet Urantia to continue to exist in the universe, even with the severe tectonic changes that will soon take place, so that in the future it will become a university planet for the study of Lucifer's rebellion, how to make sure that this does not happen again. anywhere in the universe of universes.

With much love to all,

Julio

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Parte VII



Esta é a última parte desta longa mensagem de hoje.

Continuando minha opinião pessoal. Se eu tiver equivocado, eu peço desculpas antecipadas e peço que me corrijam.

Na parte VI eu reforçei o pedido para que seja dado AUTONOMIA e o voto de confiança para Michael de Nebadon, que esteve em nosso planeta como Jesus, com a ressalva para Deus, Pai.

Disse que eventual questão ou divergência de Deus, o Supremo e Deus, o Último devem ser levado por eles até Deus, Pai Universal que antes de decidir e dar a palavra final irá ouvir Michael de Nebadon.


Agora, uma súplica a todas as personalidades do universo dos universos. Quando tiver uma dúvida importante em suas ações, se indaguem o que Deus, Pai universal ensina para todas as personalidades.

Mesmo recebendo ordens de seus superiores imediatos, existe Deus, Pai Universal que é maior que tudo e realmente o que importa, nas dúvidas, é se submeter totalmente a Deus, Pai Universal.

Se tiverem dúvidas sobre uma ordem recebida, de seu superior hierarquico, busque, de alguma forma, a resposta de Deus, Pai Universal.

Fazendo-se assim, a semente  do mal não germinará. Mal que pode ser derivado de qualquer equívoco ou erro importante, ou em casos mais graves, o pecado, a iniquidade e a rebelião contra Deus, Pai Universal.

Lembrem-se, que Deus, Pai Universal é um pai amoroso e que nos conhece, principalmente, nos pedidos mais importantes. Logicamente, em nossos pedidos também devemos fazer nossa parte com trabalho e estudo e, se for o destino, tudo será realizado na época certa.

A preocupação final desta mensagem fala sobre a questão específica de nosso planeta que está prestes a ter em pouquissimo tempo uma mudança geográfica dos pólos, matando a maior parte da humanidade, dos animais do planeta.

O quanto é difícil enfrentar esta situação em tempos normais. Sim, esta é uma situação geológica que já aconteceu e que acontece em planetas evolucionários como nosso planeta.

Peço, em minhas orações, que as Deidades, as divindades, os seres celestiais busquem uma solução nos céus, em favor de Michael de Nebadon e de seus seres celestiais enviados para recuperação espiritual do planeta.

Peço que permitam que nosso planeta Urantia continue a existir no universo, mesmo com as graves mudanças tectônicas que em breve acontecerão, para que no futuro se transforme em um planeta universitário para estudo da rebelião de Lúcifer, como fazer para que isto não se repita mais em qualquer parte do universo dos universos.

Com muito amor a todos,

Julio.
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