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Audio Transmission / Broken Relationships
« on: March 09, 2020, 06:15:37 pm »
Teacher: AMADON
Subject: Broken Relationships
T/R: Lemuel
Location: Girona, Catalunya, Spain.
Date/Time: 9th March. 2020  23:15 Local  22:15 Z

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Re: Audio Transmission / Broken Relationships
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2020, 05:20:05 am »
Transcribed from Lemuel’s audio transmission

Broken relationships

AMADON : I am Amadon, Lemuel’s Teacher. To-night, I come to talk to you about ‘Broken relationships’. If you can remember, those of you who are old enough, way back in the 50’s of the last century, just a few years after the end of WWII, the so-called cold war between the west and the east, between America and Russia. They were banned the bomb campaign in England and then in the 60’s, we had the beatles and the maharadhis, the Jesus’s people. On the theme, you had the Chrisnamurty movement and the new age literature filled the esoteric bookshops throughout the world. But the majority of the people were not aware of what was really happening. A great change was taking place, ever so slowly, there was more light being beamed to the earth from the whole univers.

Little by little, one of the partners in many marriages began to recognize there was missing from their lives and they eventually identified it as spiritual hunger and this lead them to search, until eventually found something that began to satisfy them. History has shown that in most of these cases, it is the woman who has sought what is lacking in her life in the form of spiritual food that she was not receiving from her husband. In fact, this is a big subject and I could talk about this for many hours, but in fact now it is not necessary, because you here on the forum, you members, you have taken a decision and for most of you, an irrévocable decision to seek spiritual satisfaction and when this takes place, if it is the woman in a marriage, it is the beginning of the end of that, because inevitably separation and divorse ensues.

If, in fact, it is the way around and it is the man who seeks spiritual satisfaction, that he has identified as being missing from his life, the chances are that the marriage remains safe, because in fact, if the husband is receiving spiritual food, spiritual satisfaction which he has been hungering for, in fact it is passed on to his wife in their relationship. There are many of you now who recognize that it is mostly the women who want what is missing in their life so badly and they make the decision to seek it and to find it, and when they find it, they make the irrévocable decision and there is no way of going back, they are already out of the box, so to speak. They are now different and there is no return, so relationships are broken.

It can be debated by politicians or religious people as to the why’s and the wherefore’s, but it is always the same : cause and effect. The cause is lack of spiritual food and it is only spiritual food that feeds the soul and so it is. You members here on the forum have received spiritual food and you have become satisfied with what you have received and you have become familiar from reading the Urantia Book about your Indwelling Thought Adjuster, the Fragment of Father, which is pure spirit. You have a tremendous advantage, knowledge and experience, over those of your brothers and sisters, who have not been fortunate in their lives. Now, with the Magisterial Mission, beginning in earnest, it will be seen and recognized by many of you, the relationships of a romantic kind are no longer for you.

But don’t misunderstand what I am saying here. Not needing a romantic relationship does not in any way make you indifferent to any relationship, not at all. You will discover that you are able to love, really love everybody, men or women and you find that it is not necessary to become romantically involved. Broken relationships are a very common phenomena in the world and I have given you the reasons why all this happen, especially in the so-called developed worlds, but this is something that we can talk about more deeply at another time, so for the moment I would just like to end these few words about broken relationships by saying to you all : please recognize the fact that when you give your heart and your soul and your mind to the spiritual life to God, to the Father, or however you want to refer to Him, you will find that your previous relationships now mean nothing to you.

They are long chapters in your life that are now closed and for many of you, it is a difficult situation, because you are standing outside the closed door and there is another door in front of you, but it is still not opened, so you need patience, but you have the understanding and you have the certainty that not only you cannot go back to where you were before, you have no intentions whatsoever of going back to your old way of life. So, please, begin to look at broken relationships through a new set of eyes, spiritual life’s eyes, instead of ego’s eyes. I thank you and I wish you a very good night.
I am your servant, I am your liegeman, it is my will that your will be done.

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Re: Audio Transmission / Broken Relationships
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2020, 10:21:42 am »
Amadon - Teacher of Lemuel. I don’t agree. Russian women are completely different, not spoiled by the so-called universal values. Which, by the way, does not exist. A Russian woman is the soul of the family, this is the most important family guardian and moral authority for children, husband and relatives.
 
February 5 was 48 years old since I was married. I will not hide, my Hope had to experience many critical moments in life, but we live together and love each other, although in different ways.
 
She endured when I hit Orthodoxy, she endures now when I study the Urantia Book and communicate on our website. And not a single word of condemnation or reproach.
 
What Lemuel dictated is most likely from personal experience. And I write from my personal knowledge. All women are different. Not all traitors. Protect love¸ whatever it is ...
 
 
Амадон - Учитель Лемюэля. А я не согласен. Русские женщины совсем другие, не испорченные так называемыми общечеловеческими ценностями. Которых, к стати, не существует. Русская женщина – это душа семьи, это самый главный семейный хранитель и моральный авторитет для детей, мужа и родственников.
5 февраля исполнилось 48 лет как я в браке. Не скрою, моей Надежде пришлось испытать немало критических моментов в жизни, но мы живем вместе и любим друг друга, хотя по-разному.
Она терпела, когда я ударился в православие, она терпит сейчас, когда я изучаю Книгу Урантии и общаюсь на нашем сайте. И ни одного слова осуждения или упрека.
То, что продиктовал Лемюэль – скорее всего из личного опыта. И я пишу из личного опята. Все женщины разные. Не все предатели. Берегите любовь¸ какая бы она не была…

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Re: Audio Transmission / Broken Relationships
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2020, 04:21:29 pm »
Prozonov,  thank you for your comments.

With respect, I think you have missed the point and your comments about 48 years of marriage

together and you still love one another, only confirms what Amadon said.

When there is still a loving relationship in a marriage, the wife feels no need to look for spiritual

satisfaction.

But when it is Not like that, and the wife recognizes she is being starved of spiritual food, if she

makes the decision to look elsewhere, she will. 


This impulse to seek spiritual satisfaction comes from the Soul because it is the Soul that needs

to be nurtured and nourished in order to grow and survive after physical death.


Many wives choose to remain with their husbands even though it is not satisfying for her.

Unfortunately, most marriages are like this, but if the wife finally decides she cannot or will not

continue living a "dead" marriage, she will seek spiritual "life" elsewhere.


I hope I have responded to your satisfaction, Prozonov.


Lemuel



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Re: Audio Transmission / Broken Relationships
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2020, 10:17:01 am »
Lemuel! Tell me, how many women on our site seek spiritual life?
 
The main enemy of the family is modern capitalism. His idol is money, and a man for a woman becomes just a wallet. Such a society is doomed to self-destruction, it needs a reboot.
 
Until forty, I lived under socialism. Given the guaranteed guaranteed social equality, the foundation of the creation and existence of the family was LOVE for men and women. The current Russian capitalism is trying to destroy it.
 
Will not work.
 
That is why I reiterate: there is no need to generalize. There are hundreds of options for family existence and family relationships on the planet. Only a thorough cleaning or rebooting of civilization will nullify the negative and with the help of MISSIONS will show the path to light and life.
 
Respectfully,
Alexander Prozonov.
 
 
Лемюэль! Скажите, сколько на нашем сайте женщин, ищущих духовную жизнь?
Главный враг семьи – современный капитализм. Его идол – деньги, а мужчина для женщины становится просто кошельком. Такое общество обречено на самоуничтожение, ему требуется перезагрузка.
До сорока лет я жил при социализме. При существовавшем гарантированном социальном равноправии основой создания и существования семьи была ЛЮБОВЬ мужчины и женщины. Нынешний российский капитализм это пытается уничтожить.
Не получится.
Вот почему я вновь утверждаю: не надо обобщать. На планете сотни вариантов существования семьи и семейных отношений. Только основательная чистка или перезагрузка цивилизации обнулит негатив и с помощью МИССИЙ покажет путь к свету и жизни.
С уважением,
Александр Прозонов.

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Re: Audio Transmission / Broken Relationships
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2020, 01:27:32 pm »
To Prozonov

In our modern way of living, when it comes to spirituality in a couple, married or just living together, there is likely a divorce or separation, if only the female counterpart feels the need for soul nourishment and it goes the same for material needs. This is what Amadon-Lemuel wants to impart to us and there is no conflict with what you say, Prozonov. Of course, this assumption is not common to all, thanks God, there are certainly some exceptions, it depends mostly of what kind of life philosophy a relationship is based upon. Formerly, man and woman stick together in whatever a situation, but these days have long gone away. Sociologists, from all over the world, do agree that there is a lost of value in family construction, even in conservative civilizations or cultures, that is detrimental and we must recognize the reality of it in our own environment. Domtia
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Re: Audio Transmission / Broken Relationships
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2020, 01:49:53 pm »
Family is the basis of any civilization.
 
No family - no civilization.
 
What is happening now.
 
 
Семья – основа любой цивилизации.
Нет семьи – нет цивилизации.
Что сейчас и происходит.

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Re: Audio Transmission / Broken Relationships
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2020, 02:05:39 am »
Prozonoc, your comments and point of view on the topic that Amadon put on the table "Broken Relationships" are very interesting, a position that I consider very categorical and respectable, which tells us about the stability that you have achieved in your couple life. I am also a strong supporter of Socialism, and especially that of Hugo Chávez in Venezuela, whom he called Socialism of the 21st century, for the variant of opening the doors to private investment subject to social norms established by the state. And perhaps analyzing it from a certain angle, I could also agree with you that some part of the cases of couple conflicts and separations have savage capitalism as a cause, especially in developing countries, as Amadón notes, considering that such a policy turns love into a business transaction.
However, the main reason why I write this note is because the complexities of interpersonal relationships and in particular relationships between couples (man and woman) have called my attention, due to the fact that I had as part of my work attending as a family doctor for so long, very often cases of passionate conflicts between couples where I have had to mediate as a marriage counselor (without title), which has allowed me to see how fragile these relationships are, which can be breaking up for reasons that are often as simple as discussions about "who is right" in sometimes ridiculous cases, so I would also like to give a personal opinion on the matter, making it clear that I fully agree with the message of Amadon the teacher Lemuel's, which I thought was great.
Very simple: I consider that whatever the reason that causes conflicts and ruptures in relationships between couples, the main factor to take into account is that there is undoubtedly an established mental programming, with the aim of preventing it from reigning between human being, true love or unconditional love, peace and harmony in relationships in general. And this as a result of the machinations carried out by the Lucifer rebellion. Based on this, it could be explained how it is possible that all relationships that start with such good purposes and good intentions can break so easily.
So the cases of couples who remain united is due to the fact that they have managed by dogma of faith to accept and keep in mind the presence of God in their lives. Thanks